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Speaker 1: with haleyol Wood and Eric Williams of ESPN. I'm Chris

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Speaker 1: Hayry after the Chargers lose a heartbreaker to say the least,

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Speaker 1: twenty three twenty in Nashville. Eric, let's just start with you, man.

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Speaker 1: You've covered this team a lot. That was his difficult

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Speaker 1: a loss overall in the NFL this year. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: the way it played out. I mean, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: they won that game three different you know opportunities, and

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Speaker 1: then to to not win it. Um, when you win

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Speaker 1: in and talk to guys in the locker room, I

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Speaker 1: still think they really hadn't process the fact that they

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Speaker 1: had lost. There's still kind of in a state of

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Speaker 1: disbelief for shock that it went down like that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was it was definitely a tough loss. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe the toughest lost for Anthony Linda and his tenure

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Speaker 1: Jaguars obviously that was a tough one the first year. Um,

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Speaker 1: way that it played out, and it seemed like at

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Speaker 1: the end, after you know, getting behind by double digits,

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Speaker 1: that they kind of worked their back way back into

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Speaker 1: it and they were gonna they're gonna win it, um,

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Speaker 1: and then to lose like that, Um, it's got to

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Speaker 1: be tough for the players. UM. But you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a pretty resilient group, I think. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: interested to see how guys respond this week. I thought

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Speaker 1: Joey boss comments in the locker room was telling that

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Speaker 1: tweeted that out last night. And you know, Joey isn't

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Speaker 1: I think, here Bosa, not only when he talks like that,

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Speaker 1: needed to hear that because again two and five, it

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Speaker 1: hasn't been great obviously the division, but you still have

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Speaker 1: yet you play him twice. There's still some games out

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Speaker 1: in front of them that they could potentially work them

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Speaker 1: their way back into it. But obviously a lot has

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Speaker 1: to change. Well, this one was the one that you

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Speaker 1: The team, like you said, they probably thought they had

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Speaker 1: it was like we had it won twice. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: great defense competitor. Right. Yeah, offensively, I think the elephant

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