WEBVTT - Ep. 108 — Buying Bitcoin; Big Retirement Talks; Interview Gripes

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<v Speaker 1>How's things.

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<v Speaker 2>Things are good? Finally things are starting to look like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see the end, decide it wasn't crazy today.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like I mean, there's still like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to do, but it's like a reasonable lot, not like

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<v Speaker 2>a girl how a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know You're over the mountain top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, definitely, because I'm like, oh god, We've gotten all

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<v Speaker 2>the super hard stuff out of the way. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like basic my normal. Like okay, like I was

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<v Speaker 2>telling my sister, there's always a level of stress, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how it is when you when you manage people,

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<v Speaker 2>you run a company or whatever, that there's always a

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<v Speaker 2>level of stress that you expect and I've learned to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it. But then there's times when and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not the normal. Like usually five things are broken,

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<v Speaker 2>but today ten or fifteen are broken. Okay, that's another

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<v Speaker 2>level you know. Yeah. Yeah, so that like I knew

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<v Speaker 2>I was having our new things where I had gotten

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<v Speaker 2>good when like yesterday literally the Literature Academy site went

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<v Speaker 2>down and all I could take the class and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, I was like it was just some

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<v Speaker 2>little like you have to switch to, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know there's like this new certificate that websites have to

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<v Speaker 2>have now and whatever. So I forgot to switch over.

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<v Speaker 2>So I suspected that that's what it was. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just called go Daddy and they were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to switch over. And it was like an

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<v Speaker 2>hour and then it was back up. But they were

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<v Speaker 2>freaking out, like the team was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's emailing us. I was like, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing. It's only one thing broken today. I can

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<v Speaker 2>handle that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the worst when you know exactly what's wrong but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else doesn't know that you know yet and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, but I mean I suspected. I didn't know for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, I think that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, you know, let's hope. And basically

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<v Speaker 2>I just to wait hour to see. Let's hope that that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my guess was right, and it was, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was like oo. But even then, honestly, I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about websites is somebody knows the answer. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just a matter of we have to

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<v Speaker 2>keep calling it till the right tech person gets on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really frustrating if you are running an operation

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<v Speaker 1>and relying on third party services. Like I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>all been there when like Gmail goes down, or like

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago Google Docs went down, and I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're just not going to be doing any

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<v Speaker 1>work because this is where I'm like a so reliant

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<v Speaker 1>on Google Docs for everything. We just started. So I

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<v Speaker 1>manage over forty freelance writers as part of freelance writers

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<v Speaker 1>and like video producers mostly writers as part of my job,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just got on this news system this like

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<v Speaker 1>very sleek sort of start up feeling, although I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize it was really a startup when we when we

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<v Speaker 1>approved it new system for like managing people, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be great because you can pay people all

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<v Speaker 1>in one place and people get paid faster and fast

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<v Speaker 1>paid writers or happy writers and blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was really being pushed by like another

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<v Speaker 1>person in our company. So when we were acquired in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer, he was like, yeah, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity. I've been trying to get them to

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<v Speaker 1>use this new system. Sounded good to me. I made

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<v Speaker 1>the dumb assumption that he had done a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like testing of it, and we had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, preview calls where you share your screen

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<v Speaker 1>and you see how it's going to work, and it

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<v Speaker 1>all looked great. But Jesus, I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 1>been sold a Lemon car, Like it looks good on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside, but there are so many bugs. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>realizing that with forty freelancers and one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>assignments a month and all these like demands for content

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<v Speaker 1>that we have, this we're being like guinea pigs for

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<v Speaker 1>this company. And I am like constantly emailing them for

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<v Speaker 1>bug issues and like emailing their customer support. It is

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<v Speaker 1>it is like approaching I mean at first, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>deep breaths. I was really like doing a good job,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, handling, like when things don't

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong. I was trying to like be calm. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really approaching my breaking point. I'm like, I need

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<v Speaker 1>this ship to work.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, there's nothing work, And You're right, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>We did just start. Hey, it's not an ambition, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney and Mandy blah blah blah. No. But the worst,

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<v Speaker 2>my worst, the worst email you can get from customer support.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it worked for me? Yo? I want to throw

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<v Speaker 2>my computer, like when you know you have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>gotten that email?

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<v Speaker 3>Cannot replicate the issue, And they're basically like okay, bye,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked for you, but you're a useless person and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not doing your job, and can you replicate this

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<v Speaker 1>middle finger emoji that I'm trying to myself from sending

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one it was like, so, so the platform

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<v Speaker 2>that we use is called for I have an online school,

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<v Speaker 2>the Literature Academy, and we use this platform called think Gippi.

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<v Speaker 2>But before that, we used another platform called Kajabi, which

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be like the Raw Royals rolls worths

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<v Speaker 2>of like online education platform. So basically it's the platform

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<v Speaker 2>that you build your school on. You can customize it,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. So I invested in Kujabi built our school.

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<v Speaker 2>We were using it in a unique kind of way

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't realize that, like, because there's still not

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<v Speaker 2>very many platforms where you could build like your online school,

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<v Speaker 2>and most of those platforms assumed that you were selling

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<v Speaker 2>a one off course, like here's a six week course,

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<v Speaker 2>We're done. But that's not how we were using it.

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<v Speaker 2>We were using it like you pay a monthly access

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<v Speaker 2>fee and you have access to all courses past, president future,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know. So we were having some issues,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, we were trying to work through them,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were kind of like you know, masking taping

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<v Speaker 2>solutions together. And then something broke and we emailed them

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<v Speaker 2>to try to fix it, and emailed and emailed, and

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<v Speaker 2>at one point a month before, because the Academy was

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<v Speaker 2>growing so quickly, they had actually done a profile on

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<v Speaker 2>me for their blog, like hey, here's a shining example

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<v Speaker 2>of how someone can grow a great business on our

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<v Speaker 2>on our website. But then after a while they just

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<v Speaker 2>stopped responding. It was basically like the thing that you're

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<v Speaker 2>complaining about, it's fixed. And I'm like, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what I don't it's not fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry thee I was like, it's not fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>And so for months and then somehow we hunted down

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<v Speaker 2>the founders on Facebook and found their personal Facebook page

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<v Speaker 2>and messaged them like, hey, you profiled me on your site.

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<v Speaker 2>This is we're having this issue. It's not fixed. So

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<v Speaker 2>we heard nothing. So finally I just made the switch

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<v Speaker 2>over to Think if It where we are now, we're

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<v Speaker 2>very happy. That same day we made the switch, the

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<v Speaker 2>founder of that website Think If It actually reached out.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually had a great conversation on the phone, and

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<v Speaker 2>the customer support has just been amazing. And then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the day that the final switch was being made. It

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<v Speaker 2>was not cheap because we had to switch over and

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<v Speaker 2>port over all of our students. Then the Kajabi people

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<v Speaker 2>finally reached back out and they were like, oh my gosh, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd love to jump on the phone with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry what happened. And I was like, girl, it's

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<v Speaker 2>too late, you know, like and it was so out

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<v Speaker 2>of business what I mean, Mandy. They were so embarrassed,

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<v Speaker 2>like we actually had a video chat and their faces

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<v Speaker 2>were like, I said, here's the issue. I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't come back even if I wanted to, because we

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<v Speaker 2>already paid the money to switch over. Like I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, we had about three thousand students. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>literally the money has been spent. Today's the last day,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's nothing. They're just like cause, you know, please

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<v Speaker 2>don't go. I said, here's what disturbed me that I emailed,

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<v Speaker 2>I emailed, I Facebook, I tried to stay and and nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>The customer support was non existent. And now that after

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<v Speaker 2>months of trying, we're making our switch. Now I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you did a Google search. You said, hey, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a good, viable business. I just don't like. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, you should treat people right, to treat

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<v Speaker 2>people right, And they were so sheepish, and even to

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<v Speaker 2>this day, they still email me every once in a

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<v Speaker 2>while like if you ever want to come back, why

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<v Speaker 2>would I want to come back? You know, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just really bad business. And I just remember thinking like

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<v Speaker 2>a customer support But it was a good lesson because

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<v Speaker 2>our customer support, Like I really train my customer support

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<v Speaker 2>staff that you're not finished unless the person says yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, everything has been answered, I'm good to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, if you email someone and they email you

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<v Speaker 2>back that they don't get it or they don't understand,

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<v Speaker 2>you have one more email before you sugge. I bought

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<v Speaker 2>like a special conference call line. Then you say, would

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<v Speaker 2>you like to jump on a call because sometimes things

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<v Speaker 2>get lost and you know when you're writing, and so no,

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<v Speaker 2>like we do. I believe in super serving I never

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<v Speaker 2>want to feel how could Jabe made me feel? I

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<v Speaker 2>never want, like the dream builders or dream coctors to

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Could job you did us wrong? I know they're like, yikes,

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<v Speaker 1>not again, you're naming names. I'm not going, I still

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<v Speaker 1>have to use this system. I'm like, I don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's frustrating. Yeah, the tools that because we rely

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<v Speaker 1>on tools and they can be super helpful. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know people out there nodding their heads like, yes, I had,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always you know, my my my issue is

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<v Speaker 1>like they're in different time zones and anyway, anyway, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays are right around the corner. She's maybe adding

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<v Speaker 1>the teens's bit of anxiety to my to my situation

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<v Speaker 1>just because like I'm leaving. I'm going to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days with my mom's family in Minneapolis. So

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<v Speaker 1>I leave the end of this week, so Thursday Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be gone, and I'm just it's just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tick off the stuff on my to do

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<v Speaker 1>list before I go. I'll probably end up staying super

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<v Speaker 1>late at work tomorrow just so I can get stuff

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<v Speaker 1>done because I'm I don't like working when I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be off. It makes me I just not that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean, of course, no one likes to work

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<v Speaker 1>when they when they take time off, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>those some people who are like, oh, it's okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take time off, but I'll be approachable online

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever. Like, I don't like the way I feel

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<v Speaker 1>when i'm you know, at my mom's house and she's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like wanting me to hang out and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like at the computer. I don't want it to be

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<v Speaker 1>that way. So I'd rather just like do the work,

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<v Speaker 1>work my ass off before. But I did finally do

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<v Speaker 1>some shopping this weekend, left it really to the last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the m word the mall. Does anyone

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<v Speaker 1>go there anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>I went once and I was like, where am I?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a virtual It was like it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>different world. Where'd you go when you went to the mall?

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a mall near me in Jersey City called

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<v Speaker 1>Newport Mall. And I looked online Friday night because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an old lady and do nothing on Friday nights anymore

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<v Speaker 1>except for planning my shopping the next day. And I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that there have special opening hours from eight am

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<v Speaker 1>for the holiday season, and I was like, yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get up at the crack of dawn, which

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up not getting up that early, but I

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<v Speaker 1>got there by nine and I was like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to beat these crowds. And I just went from like

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<v Speaker 1>all I went to Sephora. Man, there is no greater

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure in life, I think than just being the only

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<v Speaker 1>person in a Sephora store, no one to fight over samples,

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<v Speaker 1>for all the people there wanting to help you, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like a princess. I'm like, yes, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see this and that, and I'll have this, and

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<v Speaker 1>sure could have a sample of that. It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt no one's really shopping because I had gone

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<v Speaker 2>to the mall with my sister and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>sun It wasn't like, oh my goodness, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday at noon. It was last Sunday. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually really surprised, like, huh, there it was. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't no one, but it wasn't packed like I expected.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not like the old days because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>shops online now and and people in general, like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been interested when you know, if you listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>news reports about retailers. A lot of retailers are projecting

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<v Speaker 1>lower sales than average for the holiday season, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been this way for a while. Like the big department stores,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Macy's, J C. Pennies, they've been struggling for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to get people to come back like

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<v Speaker 1>they used to. So maybe I was like playing into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And just like malls in general are dying, they're they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's still the big malls and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll always sort of be there, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>smaller malls have been closing. It's just not that part

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<v Speaker 1>of it's not the kind of I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>even kids, like when I was a kid, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing you could do. It's like you go to

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<v Speaker 1>wafle house or you can go to the mall, and

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like a social activity, spend all day there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that people do that anymore since they

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<v Speaker 1>live in their phones now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, I don't think I feel like people

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<v Speaker 2>don't really. Honestly, I've done a lot of regifting because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I get sometimes you could have conferenced it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, gifting, Come on, no one wants your day planner.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I got some really good stuff. I got like

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<v Speaker 2>an Amazon Echo.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, what kind of conferences do you go to?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I got a Kate Spade computer KVE it's

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful leather, and I was like, ooh, and but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the size of my computer. And so like, cause

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<v Speaker 2>I have a what is this the nextbook air? So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a regular size one. I was like, someone

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<v Speaker 2>is getting this Kate Spade uh thing, and it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be happy about it. So I gotta like I

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<v Speaker 2>had maybe like three or four really like nice things,

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<v Speaker 2>not like you know, like the cheesy conference stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>like just nice things. And I was like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>put these up. And so I'm like, hmm, somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get this.

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<v Speaker 1>Even regifting only good stuff though not like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>only good stuff. I also believe in buying something for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself while you're also shopping for other people. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it. I just really I'm so bad, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I one for you and one for me

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<v Speaker 1>and one for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. So I did what I did last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my whole team something for tip from Tiffany's. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like my tradition. Now, well two years because.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend that's panting on your payroll.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well that's because like a friend of mine works

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<v Speaker 2>for Tiffany. So you get like a huge disc.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>The truth comes out then exactly. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so I'm always like, I know, I always

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<v Speaker 2>have the budget per person, but it's like it's double

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, like so if my budget is fifty

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<v Speaker 2>bucks per person, then it's like, oh, I could spend

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred you know what, but like dollars nothing really,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are things that there are things that are

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<v Speaker 2>like not too far. We not at fifty, but thinks

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<v Speaker 2>that I could get for fifty you see what I mean? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of have like a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>buddy like okay, so as long as it's under a

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<v Speaker 2>certain amount of money, it we're fine. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>just literally get everyone on the team the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year I got them necklaces and they were really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody loved them. And this year I got them something

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<v Speaker 2>different because I know the team listens. I know they're like, yes, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be late because really, me and post Office

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably not gonna I'm probably not gonna get their

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<v Speaker 2>own time. But it's like my way, And honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>super easy because I can just make a really clear

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<v Speaker 2>budget of this is what I'm gonna spend. I order like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ten of them, and then usually I order

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<v Speaker 2>like four. I order maybe like five or six more

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<v Speaker 2>or something different. But for my sister's, my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>my two best friends, and that's it. It just makes

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<v Speaker 2>it so easy, like here you go. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>start having to buy individual gifts for individual people, it

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<v Speaker 2>just gets to be too much team too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm turning into my mother, like I really like to

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know. I just overthink it with the

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<v Speaker 1>gifts sometimes. But at least I got everything except for

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<v Speaker 1>my husband done. I was thinking about that today. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, for the last month, I've been saying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I'm going to think about what to get

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<v Speaker 1>him at work today. I'm gonna do it. It's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just I'm like, oh shit, it's five

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<v Speaker 1>days await and I haven't got my husband anything yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine, right, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we don't get something, it's like we're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting each other anything. We just said, well, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get each other is the house?

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<v Speaker 1>No, just each other her I wanted, That's what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm married to a man who just likes presents.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like not, He's like, yeah, sounds cute, but he

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<v Speaker 1>likes kifs.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh. So this is like kind of like a random

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<v Speaker 2>a side till tomorrow. I'm alone there. So I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>down my mom. She wants to talk about like retirement

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and I was like, ah, She's like, can

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<v Speaker 2>you sit down with me and help me pull out everything?

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<v Speaker 2>She's not quite quite ready for retirement as far as

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<v Speaker 2>age wise, she has a couple of years, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first time she's everyone to sit down. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I spoken to my dad like about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like money. Well, my mom talks talks about money too,

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<v Speaker 2>but more so in a practical way, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>how you budget, this is how you say, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is more so here are my papers here my and

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<v Speaker 2>I told her. I was like, well, let's pull everything

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<v Speaker 2>out and organize it. But I really think that we

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<v Speaker 2>should sit down with a financial planner to really go

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<v Speaker 2>through because we don't need an advisor like they have

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<v Speaker 2>to iry, I don't want anyone selling their products and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. They have all of those. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>more so because my dad has like all of these.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really good, but you know how it is like

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<v Speaker 2>my my mom is like whatever, I'm not listening to him. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>not like that, but it's hard. It's just better to

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<v Speaker 2>have like an individual person that can kind of say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here are all of your accounts, here are here's the

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<v Speaker 2>money that's coming in, here's what the house is worth,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing, and like, here's a plan that

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<v Speaker 2>will put you where you want to be. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I know my dad has a plan already, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think my mom needs to hear aboute a plan from somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Else that your dad interesting, well.

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<v Speaker 2>At least not at least a plan, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think she just needs like a because he's always

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<v Speaker 2>managed to finance. So I think she just wants like

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<v Speaker 2>someone to be like, well, here's what I'm thinking and

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<v Speaker 2>feeling versus caause my dad is like, the plan is set.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's going good, if she sticks to the plan,

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<v Speaker 2>we're good. I'm like, yeah, but that's the plan you created.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a joint plan where it's not just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's already set in motion because my dad's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a g with money. But I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the plan, maybe mommy wants to retire here earlier

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<v Speaker 2>than the plans the plan would suggest, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to sell the house sooner, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So it's like, well, let's look at options

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<v Speaker 2>within the plan. So I'm both nervous and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>excited and actually surprised that she was like, come sit

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<v Speaker 2>with me and let's go over like my money. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like ultimately I'm going to bring someone in, but I

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<v Speaker 2>want to at least start to get her organized so

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<v Speaker 2>she can start to think about what is it that

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<v Speaker 2>you want, so we can have someone help, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you and dad, you know, you and Daddy figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how do we get there with both of you guys

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like compromising and getting there the way you

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<v Speaker 2>want to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>And what point do you bring your dad into the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think this time is just it'll just be me,

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<v Speaker 2>her and like I think my sister just for me.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be at the house and he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>there just pulling things out. I think that we bring

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<v Speaker 2>him into the conversation when when I bring in the

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<v Speaker 2>financial planner to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're saying having your mom an opportunity just to

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<v Speaker 1>speak without the presence of your dad, who probably has

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<v Speaker 1>like an overwhelming like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, because my dad is like you know nickel

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<v Speaker 2>dime coter twist this knob, the pulley is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like he has a whole and I guess you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of and I can understand it's feeling like, well, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I have something to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's retired and they're you know, and they're honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>they're good. But it's just, you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>she just is like, well, I know that the plan

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<v Speaker 2>requires me to stay another year or two, but what

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<v Speaker 2>if I want to leave next year? Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or what if I want to you know? And so

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, that's not part of the plan. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>but daddy, you have to acknowledge that the plans can.

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<v Speaker 1>Change into your dad one day. I don't ask any questions,

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<v Speaker 1>just follow follow the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, here's the book. The book has been written has

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<v Speaker 2>in the books of as well. We put five kids

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<v Speaker 2>through college and their masters. We have a house. We have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no real debt, like you know, like the

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<v Speaker 2>plan is working and it's like, don't don't deviate from

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<v Speaker 2>the plan. So it's like, yeah, just her opportunity to say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I think and feel and then bringing

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<v Speaker 2>someone into Yeah, that is something.

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<v Speaker 1>That we worked on. We fought a lot about, like

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<v Speaker 1>activities that make us happy that we don't have in common,

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<v Speaker 1>that costs money, like that was our That's something that

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<v Speaker 1>we sort of were budheads about. Well actually more so

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<v Speaker 1>like I would just shoot down anything that I did

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't think was like, you know, a useful,

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<v Speaker 1>a useful way to spend resources on gadgets and car

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<v Speaker 1>accessories and stuff. Meanwhile, here I am a Lotti dog

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<v Speaker 1>going to like a million Broadway shows and contents and

0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff like this culture it's you know, it's not a thing,

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:54.240
<v Speaker 1>it's an experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, that was so me. I look back, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness. Do you have any times I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm traveling this and that And He's like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think i'd like to get a speaker, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. First of all, the speaker thing we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, but you know what I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of messed up, like relativity because you just came

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<v Speaker 2>back from Jamaica. I'm like, you know the differ. Yeah, No,

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 2>it is good to have outside, an outside you know,

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<v Speaker 2>person to kind of come in and look and say, hey,

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 2>there's actually room for both your plans to work you know,

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<v Speaker 2>congruently together, you know, like so, and I suspect that

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.000
<v Speaker 2>it is. I know that there's there's more than enough there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm actually really curious because it's been a while since,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've maybe since college, since like I've seen all

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<v Speaker 2>of their financials like on paper, you know. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really curious to see like what I know. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll report back as much as I can. I know

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<v Speaker 2>my mom probably, I'm like, if you know my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>please say nothing because she'll be like Tiffany, gosh, darn it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the hardest things for me as

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<v Speaker 1>a reporter when I used to have to interview interview

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<v Speaker 1>older people who were close to retirement age, and you want, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to really write it like a satisfactory

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<v Speaker 1>story where the reader feels like they're getting the full picture,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to ask about numbers, like how much have

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<v Speaker 1>you saved? And you know, how much are you? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you getting an income every month? You know, to spend

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<v Speaker 1>on your lifestyle, and you get you get used to

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<v Speaker 1>like asking those personal questions and some people will answer.

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<v Speaker 1>But I found that a lot of parents would tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you dare print this. I don't want my kids

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I got that. I got that answer a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's just I mean, I I yeah, it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's great that your mom doesn't feel that way

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<v Speaker 1>about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well about me. But I'm sure she'd be like, you

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<v Speaker 2>told who what? But she hasn't listened to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you know her, please be quiet. So she's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>tell exactly, you tell the world. So sidebar, I purchased bitcoin?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you really? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? So well here's why, because I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to. But then for the Literature Academy,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was asking me and you get a big coin instructor.

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<v Speaker 2>So I interviewed about five or six different people and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, most people weren't fit until I

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<v Speaker 2>met this woman named Cassandra Cummings. And what I liked

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<v Speaker 2>about her is that she wasn't a big cooin instructor.

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<v Speaker 2>And I realized that's what didn't sit well with me

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<v Speaker 2>about everybody else that they were quote unquote bigcoin instructors.

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<v Speaker 2>And Cassandra is an investing instructor. She's a CFP and

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<v Speaker 2>a CPA. So here's a woman who just had a

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<v Speaker 2>really strong financial background period. And then in conjunction to

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<v Speaker 2>teaching about folks, especially women, about investing, she you know,

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<v Speaker 2>started teaching that here's an alternate, not an alternative, but

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to what you're already doing. You know, bigcoin

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<v Speaker 2>is the thing, let's talk about cryptocurrencies. So I like

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<v Speaker 2>that that she was really well balanced versus just being

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<v Speaker 2>this one thing. And what I liked too is that

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<v Speaker 2>she had already built this really great, robust community called

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<v Speaker 2>stocks and Stilettos, and so I had her come on

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<v Speaker 2>to teach a lesson and it was really good. Like

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<v Speaker 2>even me who had done a little bit of research,

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<v Speaker 2>it really helped to explain what cryptocurrency was and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>why bigcoin is this big thing, and what does it

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<v Speaker 2>really mean and even how to purchase it? And so

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<v Speaker 2>I said I always like to do what I what,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my dream builders and dream catchers are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, you know what, I'm going to sign

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<v Speaker 2>up for this website coinbase that she was talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's see how easy it is. Honestly, Maddy. It

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<v Speaker 2>took me five minutes and I bought ten dollars worth

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<v Speaker 2>of bit coin just to see. And I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's a great teacher because this was super super

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<v Speaker 2>easy and yeah, so I don't know. I was telling

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<v Speaker 2>Superman about it. He was like, let's buy more, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so we're talking about, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do a little bit more research to see, like,

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<v Speaker 2>because there are other kind of cryptocurrencies out there. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely now that I know how to do it

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<v Speaker 2>and understand that a little bit more, we should have

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<v Speaker 2>her on as a guest because she was, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>was really great at explaining step by step. I felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was taking like a second grade class

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<v Speaker 2>in cryptocurrency. And I was like, oh, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Our listeners are like, why don't you have her on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm gonna know, I'm sure she would love this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Cassandra coming, she was really, like I said, really good

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<v Speaker 2>at explaining it and just really And what I liked

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<v Speaker 2>is that she was realistic and like, don't be a fool.

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<v Speaker 2>All your money should not be in bitcoin. It should

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<v Speaker 2>be a very small percentage of your overall investing strategy,

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<v Speaker 2>and that it's very very volatile and risky, and that

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<v Speaker 2>you could be wealthy on paper today and literally broke

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<v Speaker 2>on paper tomorrow, but broke in real life tomorrow because

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you put all your money into that. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>liked that she was realistic and like I said, the

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<v Speaker 2>coin base of whatever website she's told used to use,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, this is super duper.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when we talked about bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I had never used it, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it works, you know, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this seems hard, or like how do you

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<v Speaker 2>even get your money? But what we talked about, I

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 2>don't even know if you get your money back. And

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>now that I've been on I'm like, oh, this is easy.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think we sh definitely have somebody just

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<v Speaker 2>because it's all the rage right now, so we should

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<v Speaker 2>definitely be.

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<v Speaker 1>I did post in the group we just did a

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<v Speaker 1>whole guide on the bitcoin and how you sell it,

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<v Speaker 1>how to invest it, can you buy it with a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card, how to spend it. I posted it in

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook group. I'll repost it for everyone listening if

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you want a guide to if you just want a

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<v Speaker 1>beginner's guide to bitcoin, it tells you. It gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a really good sense to. I had my favorite writer,

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Bob Sullivan, do an excellent like explainerround the history of cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>the other types of cryptocurrency that are out there, what

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<v Speaker 1>it even is. And the conclusion is the same. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that if you have play money that you don't mind losing, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I go and out buy some bitcoin. But we posted this.

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<v Speaker 1>We posted a graphic in the story, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>think very telling. If you look at the trajectory of

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<v Speaker 1>the value of bitcoin, you know, a year ago being

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<v Speaker 1>almost near zero dollars and today being worth over sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a coin. Actually, I just I checked that

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<v Speaker 1>number two days ago, so who knows where it's at now?

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<v Speaker 1>It changes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's at nineteen thousand left.

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<v Speaker 1>My check, okay, and higher. But it just can turn

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<v Speaker 1>like a dime, like it'll It's so volatile. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>only picked up in the last couple of months that

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it's been blowing up like it is now. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just feel like as an investor in

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, reading things like reading the whole Warren

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<v Speaker 1>Buffett Philosophy and the Jack Vogel Jack Vogel Philosophy about investing.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's like when everyone's talking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the hot new thing, that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>am afraid to put my hat in the ring, like

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<v Speaker 1>because like the housing crisis, that's when everyone was like,

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<v Speaker 1>buy a house, buy a house, no money down, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buy three houses. To me, it just feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, take a step back, the hot new thing

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<v Speaker 1>maybe isn't the best thing for you and think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh and look it just fail. I'm just on

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>coinbase right now. It just feil twenty five hundred dollars

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 2>in the past hour. It was nineteen thousand and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's fifteen in one hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it's fun to like maybe put some

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<v Speaker 1>but you put tent. You can buy one thing. I

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't know, so you can just buy like ten dollars worth.

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to spend like nineteen thousand dollars for

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>one bitcoin, do you.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which I like. That's what I liked about it

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>because I was like, oh, and you can automate it.

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>So let's just say you're like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna eat I eat out out lunch every day

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 2>during the week, and lunch is ten dollars, and so

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 2>you say yourself, Okay, on Wednesday, I'm not going to

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>eat out lunch. I'll eat from home, and I'm just

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna buy ten dollars worth of a cryptocurrency a week.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>You can actually set it to buy the ten dollars, like, Okay,

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 2>every Wednesday, my lunch money will go toward buying it.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's what I would probably probably do is just like, oh,

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 2>it's money, like you said, kind of play money, and

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>you can literally just set it to let it buy

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>weekly for you or just buy one time and just

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 2>leave it and say, well, you never know, let's see,

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, so.

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your ten dollars worth? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's going down because you know bitcoin fail. Actually

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it just fell again. Wow, while we were talking right now,

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 2>it felt it just fell another fifteen dollars while we

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>were just talking, which is fine. No, because I bought

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>ten dollars and I don't even know like what is

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 2>whatever percentage like of twenty percent, So my ten dollars

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>is now worth eight dollars. I'm it's gone down. Yeah,

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>it's gone down twenty percent, and tomorrow it goes up.

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 2>Then it'll go up. But imagine for people who have

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 2>put one hundred, two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars and

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>now you're what you have in there is worth twenty

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 2>percent less in an hour, and while we're speaking, it's

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>go ahead. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing that people may not realize is this is

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>not regulated. It's not FDIC insured like a savings account.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>If you lose bitcoin, you can't get it back. And

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>one thing that's been happening that we cover in our

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>guide is that bitcoin there's people out there who like hackers,

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>who are who are obsessively trying to find people to

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>hack their computers and get their bitcoin. And if they

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>successfully take your bitcoin, you you can't get it back.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>There's no poop. Yeah, like there's no relation for it.

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's very it's just really risky. So just goes

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>back to the idea that you know, don't don't use

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>money that you're not willing to lose.

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, one of the reasons why I said no. To

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>one of the instructors, and she was really nice and

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>she seemed knowledgeable. But then she told me that all

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 2>of her money was in bitcoin, all of it. And

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, way, I don't understand. She was like no, yeah.

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>So like she's like, you know, I just find different vendors,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>like my my trainer, because she had like a personal trainer.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>They take bitcoin, and I order my groceries to be

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, girl, you can't talk to the drink

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 2>captures because that.

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Is unwise, Like I cannot in good conscious Like I

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 3>only like one of the people who got into bitcoin

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 3>early on because it was like, yeah, if the system

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 3>like this is going to be the way we break

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 3>financial institutions.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was the whole reason. That's really the

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>impetus for bitcoin was to be like the anti traditional

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>we're not bitcoin, but like cryptocurrencies. Was to have a

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>way to like create a currency that's not going to

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>be tracked by the government, that's tied to its own

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>inherent value. And like during the Occupy Wall Street movement,

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>this was the thing they wanted to use Bitcoin and

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>some some like progressive stores would let you use bitcoin

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>to pay for things, and I think even now like

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Amazon you can use or some like major websites except

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin anyway, But those fanatics like, I don't know, that

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>seems like.

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>It's not why. I mean, first of all, it's literally

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>not wise in any sector. So like they have a

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of your money in real estate, one

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent in bonds, one hundred percent in individual stocks.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>It's just not wise, you know what I mean. So

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just when she said that, I was like, yeah,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're a fit. And it was weird

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>because I had a guy that I interviewed and he

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, just so you know, I'm a little firm.

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in that touchy feely stuff. I'm like

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>a father figure. I'm like, oh, oh yeah, that will

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 2>be a fit for three hundred thousand women of color

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 2>to say I'm your daddy. You're gonna listen to me.

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I say, you are not a fit.

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>That's crapy.

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes it is crazy. Oh but yeah, so we found

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>it so hopefull. Well we'll try to get cut. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on in the new year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, words.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>That time. Now it's trying to break or boost, break

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>or boost. Even though I'm in a great mood, I'm

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 2>not gonna boost today.

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna boost either.

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Ooh, well, well they're gonna have to get this work.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe I'll find a positive spanbit go ahead.

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm like, huh, so I am going to

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>break from sense of entitlement. So earlier today, I was

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>in a dream Catcher group and a woman let's just

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>call her Mary wrote me and said, hey, you know,

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I was loving this group until would she say? I

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 2>was really starting to enjoy this group until I saw

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the latest post a black woman only wanting black women's opinions?

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:53.959
<v Speaker 2>How would that have worked if it was the other

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>way around. If I would have posted that and said, basically,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>black women, you have nothing of value that you can

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>tell me? Wow? Is that allowed racist? Much? And so honestly,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 2>my knee jerk reaction was like, what that's crazy? So

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like about the type to LORI, Mary, whatever

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 2>she's going on. I was about to turn to Mary,

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, you're right like no one. The way

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>she worded it, I thought she gave advice. And someone

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>said I don't want to hear advice from anyone who's

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>not black. That's what I thought. That's the way it

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>was worded, because so as I was scrolling through, I

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 2>found the post, and the post was a meme that said,

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>black women who are thirty five and above in age,

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>what advice do you have for Black women in their twenties? Thoughts?

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 2>That's what the post said, Black women who are thirty

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>five and above in age, what advice do you have

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>for Black women in their twenties? Yeah?

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And so different.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I said, Laurie, although I can, I can,

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I can. I didn't say I can understand if I

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>took it back so I couldn't understand. I said, although

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I can appreciate your feedback that the post was not racist,

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>that that the post was just someone asking for women

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 2>who had it. Didn't say that you had to that

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>that she you know, she didn't want non black opinions.

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>She just there's a unique there are unique challenges as

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a woman of color faces. And she's saying, as a

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 2>woman of color who has been through those challenges, can

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.719
<v Speaker 2>you basically give assistance to your younger self? You know

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>that like that? I didn't, you know, and that's it.

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't find it to be really like you

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>could have. You could have jumped in and gave some

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>advice or whatever. And then of course she did the

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>whole all lives matter, like, you know, I know a

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of black women, and she put black women in quotes,

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>which I thought was weird.

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>For actually responding to her nonsense.

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Because I wasn't going to. But I said, you know what,

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>this could be a teachable moment. She said. She said

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 2>something like I know a lot of black women, and

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>she needs to be removed, and so asking questions that

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 2>would never cross my mind. I don't know. She was like,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 2>everybody has need to offer black, white, and green or purple,

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and I just said, you know, and then she went

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 2>me back. She was like, well, clearly this is a

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>hate group and I'm gonna report it. And that's when

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, we don't have anything else to

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>say before you get to reporting girl block and band

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you can't report with you can't find And so my

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>break is from the sense of entitlement that that that

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>that clearly Mary thought because she wasn't the default, meaning

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>no one said hey Mary, you can't give your opinion.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't Hey, Mary, I want your opinion. You

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>see what I mean that because she because Mary is

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 2>not used to being not the default. Like as a

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 2>woman of color, I'm used to not being the default.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm used to going to the store knowing that most

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>of the doll babies are gonna be gonna be white.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm used to getting makeup that says nude and knowing

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that it's not gonna be brown. I'm used to getting pantyholes,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 2>not that I wear panty hose, and knowing that nude

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 2>is going to be really like, I'm I'm used to

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>it not being the default, and I'm angry about it.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just okay, I'm just that's just it. And Mary's

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.240
<v Speaker 2>not used to not being the default. This woman didn't

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 2>say hey, no you know, no Asian, no white, no whatever.

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Women allowed just hey, if you're a black woman, can

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>you give advice to your younger self? And I just

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, And so I just wanted to take a brown,

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>a super brown, break from that sense of entitlement, like girl.

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 2>First of all, one, I started this group, Not I

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.720
<v Speaker 2>started a bunch of Anisa and stuff. Not I started

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the group for women. But I have a special sensitivity

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and focus on women of color because we have been

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>left out of the conversation, the financial conversation, more than

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 2>any other group women of color, And so I always

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>say I welcome everyone. There are men in that group,

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 2>there are people of all different types of races, but

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>know that I am very conscious and sensitive of making

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>sure that women of color in particular are served because

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>you can literally get served every place else. This is

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 2>the one restaurant where we could get served it, like,

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, specifically get served, and so I'm not gonna

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 2>apologize for that. So I was just like, you know,

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can understand it, especially if you've never

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 2>been on the other end of not everything not being

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>for you. But oh well, girl, like that's what it

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 2>is like. This is Dreamcatchers that everybody is welcome, but

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to everyone, but specifically women of color. Yes,

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.439
<v Speaker 2>because it's one of the few places where we get

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 2>spoken to specifically. And if you're mad about that, you know,

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>you could take your mad ass and go someplace stuff,

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 2>because first of all, that's not even what racism is.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be like, I need you to google

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and use a dictionary, because racism is not You're talking

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>about discrimination. So that's first racism. Someone who does not

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>have financial or political power over you cannot be racist

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>because that's what racism really is, is that you know,

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.320
<v Speaker 2>based upon the color of someone's skin, you are able

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 2>to impose financial or political power over that person. So

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 2>a post like that is not racist because first of all,

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>black people and brown people they don't have the financial

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 2>political power in this country. So we cannot, by that definition,

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 2>really be racist. We might be discriminatory, yes, but no, Mary,

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.919
<v Speaker 2>that's not what it is. And I was like, girl,

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 2>black band, I was trying to be nice and teach

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you or teach you a moment quote unquote, I have

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote black women at my job. What is quote

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 2>unquote either they are or they aren't.

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>So what then you can speak? You could have contributed

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to that conversation because like, was she going to say, Okay,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>so I have five black friends at women black women

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>at work, and here's something that I realized they could

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>be doing better like that? How would you even start

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to phrase that sort of answer?

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It?

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Just because it kills me that they feel threatned. I

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's like a sense of being threatened by any

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>conversation that doesn't include you, rather than like being open

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to it. I just wish some people realize that the

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>best thing you can do if you want to be

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>an ally. This goes toward men and the whole discussions

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 1>around me too and sexual harassment. It goes for white

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>women when we're talking about racial inequity between gender black

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>women especially, like sometimes the best way to be an

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>ally is just to be quiet and let someone else

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>do the talking for once. Yeah, not everyone quite has

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>gotten that memo yet exactly.

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what it is that sometimes sometimes you

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:20.839
<v Speaker 2>just you're right. It's just to say, you know what

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>this is, I don't have a dog in this fright,

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's okay, like you know, like right now, you know,

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's it's lesbian women talking about you know, how

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>they feel this is unfair and it's not for me

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 2>to say, well girl, that's not true. Well how would

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I know? Now would I know? And or like men

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 2>to say, you know, sometimes I feel okay. Sometimes it's

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:42.399
<v Speaker 2>just for me to say, you know what, I never

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>thought about it that way. Let me sit back, observe, read,

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and listen, and honestly, Mandy, the post in the group

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.720
<v Speaker 2>like under the comments. I get chills reading the comment.

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It is so beautiful, like the advice that older women

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 2>are not old or older, but you know, but the

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 2>grice that the women are giving to their younger selves,

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>basically to the younger women in the group. I mean,

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it's the most beautiful post. It's like, you know, you're

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>more than enough, You're worthy. Don't don't be with anyone

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>that would ask you to dim your shine. I mean

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the advice is it is literally the reason why I

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 2>created dream Catchers. That kind of post. I mean, it's just,

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, it's beautiful, and I just thought she

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 2>was so wrapped up in her own whatever that did

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>you even read the advice like, It's just it was moving, honestly,

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, Mary kicks.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>A well, that was kind of like a break you could.

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>You brought it that, you brought the boost at the end,

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the boost for the women supporting each other. May have

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you ever sat down to write a letter to yourself

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>at a certain age? Woof? That's some uh yeah, some

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>heavy stuff. My therapist told me to do that one time,

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and it took me, like I kept putting it off

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>for like a month until I did it. It was

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a moment, what about you?

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:01.280
<v Speaker 2>What is your booth? Your break?

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>My break? My break was going to be interviews. I've

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>been I feel really really lucky and well not lucky.

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel a real sense of responsibility around hiring the

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>right people for my team, but such a sense of

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>responsibility that I like am over freaking whelmed by the

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>hiring process. So we have three to four open positions,

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>open applications are pouring in, There's hundreds to go through,

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>there's interviews to set up. You know, every interview that

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I do, it's like at least a thirty to forty

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>five minute and today to one hour phone conversations with people,

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of discussing the role and what it takes.

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, I don't know how anybody like

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>does this more efficiently than what I'm trying to do.

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>But and it's almost like I'm casting for like a

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>film or something. I'm like, I just haven't found the

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>right person, the right fit for this part. And just

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:59.240
<v Speaker 1>like the mental strain of the back and forth, people

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>following up up and sending follow up emails and like

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>telling people that they you know, you're not interested. You know,

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>they don't think they'll be a right fit you have.

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I have to send those emails to people, which which

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>is like I could punt it and have the HR

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 1>team email them and say, you know, we're no longer interested.

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But I always just feel like it's better just to

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>do it, like out of respect. I'll personally tell you

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>because I am the person you've been talking to, you

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>know that it's not a good fit. Like sending those

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>emails is tough. Yeah, And you know, I had someone

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 1>in an interview be like, well, has anything you know?

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, we'll have like a half hour interview and

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>then they'll be like, well, is there any reason you

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 1>think I couldn't do this job? I'm like, kind of

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>question is this? I mean, I don't really have an

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>answer for you. Like I I've only talked to you

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>for half an hour. There could be a lot of

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>reasons why you can't do it, but I need just

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>more than a you know, half hour discussion to decide.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Somebody today told me that they didn't want you know,

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm interviewing for a Pacific specific role and I was asking, uh,

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>this person for ideas that they might have if they

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>were to be in this role, this creative role, where

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you're creating something, you know, tell me what things you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to create. That's a pretty fair question. And

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<v Speaker 1>the response was, I just want to know that we're

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<v Speaker 1>eventually going to be on track for hiring before I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you my ideas, because I would just be worried that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they would be taken from me and I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be you know, hired. And I I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if this were if I were a tech firm

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<v Speaker 1>and I was asking for the patent model or the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the the design of your specific invention

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But I'm like, you haven't invented the video,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's only so many different things you can do,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this isn't you know, like oh my god too.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like seriously, so we're just gonna stare at

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<v Speaker 1>each other like what this is not a productive hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I don't even like oh okay.

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I was honestly like, oh okay, So this past forty

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.919
<v Speaker 1>five minutes we've just I mean, I really I looked

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<v Speaker 1>back on the forty five minutes we had spent talking

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<v Speaker 1>so far, and I was like, yeah, nothing here is

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<v Speaker 1>like that spectacular anyway. So what are you holding like.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, They're like, whatever, you're going to steal my ideas? Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to you're going to start a whole company.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say some things that I've learned having to

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<v Speaker 1>because I come. I usually do it at work, I mean, sorry,

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>at home. I wait till I get home and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>read through resumes and cover letters and stuff. I really

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I used to be anti cover letter, like I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was stupid. They're never going to read this? Why

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<v Speaker 1>write one? I really read them, And when I have

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds to go through, I skip over ones that don't

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<v Speaker 1>give me a cover letter, like unless the resume is spectacular,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do because for me, they're an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>see one. Did you even look at the site and

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing too? Do you even care what we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have an interest in it? And some people

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<v Speaker 1>have convinced me to call them even because of their

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>cover letter if their resume doesn't really you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>their resume doesn't show me such like a natural job history,

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, if they haven't had bam bam band personal

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<v Speaker 1>finance or financial experience at different businesses and media or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but they wrote a killer cover letter, telling me things

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about them that would make them a

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<v Speaker 1>good fit for the job. And I've I've marked, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've pushed them through the process. Because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I don't know, I think it gives you

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<v Speaker 1>an edge. I say, don't sleep on the cover letter,

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<v Speaker 1>don't make it long, but write a cover letter.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's smart. I never thought about that. I never.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I don't even know that have I ever

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<v Speaker 2>written a cover letter because my first job was a teacher,

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 2>preschool teacher, and I don't think I had to write

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<v Speaker 2>a cover letter for that, I mean because there was

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<v Speaker 2>more so like come in play with the kids, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see you in action. You know. I think I did

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<v Speaker 2>commit a resume and then after that, honestly I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>My next job was basically the budget eista. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely like when like when I hire now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more informal, but I have more of

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<v Speaker 2>an informal kind of cover letter. So, yes, you send

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<v Speaker 2>your resume and typically instead of a cover letter, I

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<v Speaker 2>do ask for a statement because I kind of bigger

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<v Speaker 2>to me than specific skill sets, unless I'm hiring for

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<v Speaker 2>like the CFO or that kind of thing, like if

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>we're doing like customer support or project management or whatever,

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 2>those are things I can kind of teach. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really just your cover letter or the statement that I

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<v Speaker 2>ask for speaks to more of your your state of mind.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really important to me that you're going to fit

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<v Speaker 2>into the company culture. M yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing much like sorry, I was just going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, it's another thing to think about too. It's

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the people, Like it really is, like with each person

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm hiring, I'm thinking about how they're going to interact

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>with each other. But I'm building a new team, so

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't know if someone three, like the person you

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<v Speaker 1>hired right now is like Okay, I'm really working from

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 1>this personality moving forward. Like you, if you keep like,

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>if you keep sort of trying to hire people who

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>will fit in with the people you've already hired, you

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>can kind of like back yourself into a corner of

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<v Speaker 1>a certain type of person if that makes sense. So

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm looking for age diversity. I want people

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<v Speaker 1>from different backgrounds, and I think I'm doing an okay job.

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But one thing I realized is when you're when you

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of new people on a team, there

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>is a lack of collaboration, like a lack of chemistry

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 1>because you really, like imagine everybody on their first day

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>of school when no one knows each other yet, you know,

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like there's a little bit of awkwardness, like it takes

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a while to get to know people and warm up.

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm seeing that in the office and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm giving it time. I'm giving people time to

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<v Speaker 1>get accustomed, like they're not only getting to know their

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<v Speaker 1>job like a new job, but it's a new company

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<v Speaker 1>and there's new coworkers coming in all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just like another layer of challenge is

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 1>giving like waiting for that that vibe to happen. That

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like that you know the office space where everyone sort

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of knows each other and chats and like gets along

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff you can't like you can't force it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it takes time. And that's something I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about, being like the the And it's also what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if you don't hire people that you know that

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>are already your friends, you know, anyone who knows each other.

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Some startups are like, oh, it's or four roommates from college,

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and then we just hired our three friends and it's

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>all one big, happy family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I'm intentionally not doing that, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's positive. But it also comes to a

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<v Speaker 1>set of challenges too.

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<v Speaker 2>Questions not favorite part questions what do they want to know?

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<v Speaker 2>Or question question?

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<v Speaker 1>We have a question? Yes again. You can email us

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<v Speaker 1>at broad Ambition podcast dot com if you have a

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>career or finance question, or you can go to brown

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<v Speaker 1>Ambition Did I do that again? Where I say you did?

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<v Speaker 2>You did? It's okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can also send us an email by going

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<v Speaker 1>to broad Ambition pot dot com and having to ask

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<v Speaker 1>us anything tab or you can just email us at

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<v Speaker 1>brand Ambission podcast at gmail dot com to send us

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>an email directly. Yeah. Today we have a good question

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<v Speaker 1>from a writer named Brittany, who says I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the podcast, love listening to and wait on

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<v Speaker 1>my way to work in the morning. Thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you both for creating. Okay, just prise, prise Prise, Thanks Brittany.

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<v Speaker 1>My question is about moving to New York City while

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be financially responsible. I'm a recent graduate of

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco State University, and I plan on moving to

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<v Speaker 1>New York this coming spring. I currently work in finance

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<v Speaker 1>full time as a loan representative, but I have always

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<v Speaker 1>had the dream of living in New York and pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>a career in writing. I don't have very much debt

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<v Speaker 1>under five thousand dollars, but I also don't have a

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>lot saved less than two thousand dollars. Can you give

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<v Speaker 1>me some tips on how to prepare myself financially for

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>such a big move. I was very fortunate that I

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<v Speaker 1>got a job right out of college that pays around

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five thousand dollars per year, but I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 1>scared that I may not be able to find something

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<v Speaker 1>comparable to this in salary in New York. Da Da, Da,

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<v Speaker 1>da da. What's oh? She asked, specifically, what's a realistic

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<v Speaker 1>amount to have staved before relocating to New York City?

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<v Speaker 1>And Mandy, can you give some tips on how you

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>were able to find a job in the writing field.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, Mandy, this is all you girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Mandy, did your younger self just pop

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<v Speaker 2>in and write this?

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been me. It could have been me.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I didn't ask any questions. I was like, see

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<v Speaker 1>a New York I'll be there, sixteen dollars in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Brittany, Yeah, this is a great question. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really brave. But I think there's no better time

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to do it, Like if you're going to take a risk,

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<v Speaker 1>if you graduated college recently. I am you know, this

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>may not be everyone's advice, but I am the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person who says, man, when you're twenty two and

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<v Speaker 1>you have an ambition and you have an idea and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to try it out, like do it because

0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>in ten years you're not going to have the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of freedom that you have now. You know, after college,

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I split and I was like by job world and

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<v Speaker 1>by recession and I went to South America and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the best thing I ever did. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with New York City. When I got the

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 1>opportunity I had. I had a decent job too when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Georgia and I got an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>go to New York for a job, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like by Georgia and I and it sort of works out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you just got to take the plunge.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing, that one thing, this is a question. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we've gotten before. Do you move before you

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<v Speaker 1>have a job in place. I moved here when I

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<v Speaker 1>had a job offer. I didn't come here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I sound pretty brave, but I didn't come here with

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<v Speaker 1>that without a plan or at least like a paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>But I learned that even if you do have a plan,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know what's going to happen. When I moved here,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my job two months later. Like I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I was making the right decision, and then they were like, girl, by,

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<v Speaker 1>we're cutting ten percent of our staff. So at that

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<v Speaker 1>point I was, I was. I was in a worse

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<v Speaker 1>position than newyorkcause I didn't have any savings saved up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think I had gotten a total of two paychecks,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe I don't know how many paychecks. I had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a few, but they were all gone, like on rent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bought a bed and I bought an iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that story than iPhone because why not, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>iPhone is essential.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted a good phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I got a job, I need the

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<v Speaker 1>phone to match. I got a mattress, no bed frame,

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>just a mattress on the floor. Sad, sad story. But

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>so she's got five she's got a little under five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars worth of debt. That's not that much, especially

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>she went to a state school that's smart, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>got about two thousand dollars saved. Like, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably in better shape than a lot of young graduates

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 1>who are moving to New York City. If I can

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 1>just be so bold, but I would say starting your

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<v Speaker 1>job search before you get here is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>How to get jobs, how to get well. You're pivoting

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<v Speaker 1>from working in finance. That's the real that's the challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is like your experience. It's like I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying earlier about the cover letter. Your experience so far

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<v Speaker 1>tells me that you work for a financial firm as

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<v Speaker 1>a loan representative. So what is it about you that

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<v Speaker 1>tells me you could be a writer? I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to really work on a good

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<v Speaker 1>not just a good cover letter, but embellish You're not embellish,

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 1>but add additional things to your resume or cover letter

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 1>that show your skills as a writer, Like you should

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>be writing in your spare time. You should if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not blogging, you should be trying to get freelance writing assignments.

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<v Speaker 1>You can freelance. Shoot, you can freelance or magnify money.

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<v Speaker 1>Email me, well see if you're if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>have what it takes to be a you know, a

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>financial freelance writer. But like show some clips, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>show some experience outside of your nine to five that

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that tells a job, like a hiring manager, that you

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<v Speaker 1>have the skills that we need because you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get it, probably from looking at your resume. Yeah,

0:52:57.800 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how I got my job in personal finance, Like

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I had never been or as a writer for Business Insider.

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:07.879
<v Speaker 1>So after I lost my job, I got a job

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.919
<v Speaker 1>at a legal news site called All three sixty, which

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.879
<v Speaker 1>is like a big company now as a startup back then,

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and I was miserable there. I wasn't writing. I was

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 1>an assistant. I was basically like the person who found

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>ideas for the actual reporters to write, which was like

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 1>super demoralizing. But I wasn't writing for like fifteen months.

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>But I started my blog, the Bike rid So I

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 1>was blogging about biking in New York City and life

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in New York City. And I was doing listicles and

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 1>posts and covering what I loved and when the opening

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 1>my business Insider came up, they read my blog and

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>they were like, Oh, you can write totally. This is

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a style that we want. This is the voice that

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 1>we need, even though I hadn't been doing it full

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 1>time and I didn't realize it. I mean, it wasn't

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like my big strategy, but it definitely it helped me

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>get through the door by having done some work outside

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>of my nine to five that showed I could have

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the skills to be good in that job.

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<v Speaker 2>And two like just in preparation just I mean, I mean,

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't you sound like you know you've got your

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 2>finances pretty tight, but just tighten even more so because

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 2>when you're making like any sort of big switch, especially

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 2>if it's gonna affect your finances, you're gonna want to, like,

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I would, you know, really buckle down, like as far

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 2>as being like really frugal it's not forever, and just

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 2>making sure that your budget is super tight and that

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you you know that you have like a clear system

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 2>for paying down that debt even though it's not much,

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 2>but because you want to have as much space and

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:42.799
<v Speaker 2>leeway to make financial missteps when you first get here,

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 2>because New York is a whole different beasts and animal,

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, And so yeah, just do as much prep

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 2>work as you can. I mean, it's almost like having

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 2>a baby, you know. You can take Lama's classes and

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 2>do all these other things and make sure you have

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 2>the crib and whatever, but there's nothing like actually moving here.

0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't mean that you can't prepare as much

0:54:59.440 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 2>as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she doesn't say what kind of debt it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would really that would really influence what I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say next, because she's got five thousand

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>dollars less than five thousand dollars in debt and a

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:13.279
<v Speaker 1>little under two thousand dollars in savings, and she asked,

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 1>what's the realistic amount to have saved before relocating to

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 1>New York City. I think realistically you could easily spend

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars on security deposit in first month's rent

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and kiss that money goodbye as soon as you move here.

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 1>It depends on where you live, but I know my

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 1>first apartment in a Story of Queens, which is like

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 1>half an hour outside of Manhattan eight years ago, was

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and fifty dollars a month, so you double that.

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>That was like seventeen hundred dollars off the bat that

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I had to come up with to move in. And

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the greatest apartment in the greatest neighborhood either.

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Just to give you an idea part of me and

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.959
<v Speaker 1>to what Tiffany was saying too about buckling down before

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you get here. If you have until the spring, could

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you pay off that debt by the springtime? Five thousand dollars?

0:55:58.719 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 1>You got two thousand saved up?

0:55:59.800 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you?

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>If you're living at home right now, you don't have

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:05.839
<v Speaker 1>any overhead expenses. You know, maybe it's worth the risk

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit to take the savings that you have

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and pay off that debt. It depends on I mean again,

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, like that's a caveat, Like what kind of

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>debt is it. If it's credit card debt, it probably

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>does make more sense to take that two thousand dollars

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and pay it off as much as you can and

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>then just really attack it. If it's student loan debt

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.840
<v Speaker 1>at a low interest rate, okay, maybe you have a

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 1>bit of a case for keeping some money in savings

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and not you know, attacking it with the savings that

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you have so far and just instead steadily chip chiseling

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 1>away at it over time. But I think I think

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you could pay off that five thousand dollars debt. But

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you're making good money fifty five thousand dollars a year.

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I think make that your goal, Like why not come

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 1>here debt free, and while you're paying it down, be

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>looking at jobs, be working on your freelance writing, be

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at looking at what types of companies you want

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to apply for and seeing if they have any openings.

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should move here. Don't move here

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 1>like I know earlier it was like, oh, follow your dream,

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>which is true, but don't come here blind. Like know

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>if people are hiring, get a sense of like what

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:16.880
<v Speaker 1>types of jobs are out there, Try and get some

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>interview calls, Try and talk to you know you can,

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even you can email me. We can talk

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 1>about what a starting salary for you know, a journalist

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 1>or a reporter is, you know, in the city, to

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>see what's realistic and then maybe make the move. But uh,

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I know people who have gotten jobs before they I

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 1>know people who have gotten jobs, moved here without a

0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>job and just gotten one, you know, a couple months later.

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I I'm a little risk averse. I don't know that

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I would do that. I don't know that I would

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 1>do that without more savings than what you have now,

0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I would say six month savings, three to six

0:57:58.240 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>month savings, and then you're in a position to move

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>here and take your time. But with two thousand dollars savings,

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like I said, you can that could blow up. You

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>could easily blow that the first month. Maybe once you

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 1>have six thousand, then you're ready to come here and like,

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, hang out and see what's what. Have a

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>bit of a cushion just in case you don't make

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it right away. But I think in the position you

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 1>are now, give yourself more time, save up maybe five

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars cash, pay off that debt, and then

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you're in really good shape.

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't I agree with Mandy. Like in New York

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a crazy wild beast, and you want to have

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 2>more money saved if you can't, because see a month

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 2>that could be gone. I mean, who, Yeah, do your

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Shay New York.

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Just a living? I mean she lives in San Francisco.

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know if she doesn't say, but

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>just living expenses alone. She graduated from San Francisco State University. Okay,

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 1>sounds like she's on the West coast. But man, just

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>rent alone. I mean, and people in some places want

0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 1>first and last months and security like that's it's easy

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>startup money. Like in New York, it's not even yeah,

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 1>or come to Jersey. But with Tiffany, I'm sure apartments

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 1>are a lot more affordable in Newark than probably Queen's

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 1>or Brooklyn.

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, exactly think about that too, Like there are

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 2>some neighboring like cities that you can get to New

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 2>York really quickly without necessarily having to live there right away.

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Even Kanye lived in Newark for a little while before

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 2>he blew up.

0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh he did.

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I just found that out, like the other daysone was

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 2>like yeah that, like when he was still like you know,

0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 2>first album producing and like trying to like, you know,

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>really solidify his career. He lived in Newark for a

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 2>little bit.

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Who'd have known? All Right, Miss Brittany, good luck, I'm

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>not kidding. Email me, email us again. I'll email you

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>back if you have any more specific tips about starting

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>your writing career in New York City. Yeah, and that's it.

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:56.880
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:59:58.920 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, great question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, spend more. We like answering questions. Love it. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>All I do is win, win, win, no matter what.

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:12.880
<v Speaker 2>What wins do you have? I have one.

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<v Speaker 1>I had one win exactly. Is that enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I think I think that's enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna win the cover of Time magazine this week. Yes,

1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:24.800
<v Speaker 1>have you seen it, the totem Pole of Magic.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yes, I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's amazing, it's amazing.

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I saw that. I was like, ooh, yike's my bad.

1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:37.120
<v Speaker 2>My husband just walked in the room. He gave me

1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:39.760
<v Speaker 2>a look like so I was supposed to put Alissa's

1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Supergirl's Christmas presents up and I forgot he walked in

1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the room, like she just saw them. I'm like, oh,

1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a powerful Why are you you have one job?

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<v Speaker 2>One job? So of course she came in, was like

1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:55.120
<v Speaker 2>act I heard screaming down theirs. I guess she got

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 2>excited because they're unwrapped, and I was supposed to hide

1:00:57.040 --> 1:00:58.320
<v Speaker 2>them in the room and I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you're gonna have some fun stuff to deal

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:05.320
<v Speaker 1>with after this show's over.

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<v Speaker 2>She just looked through me he gave me. You know,

1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:14.880
<v Speaker 2>people give you the eye squint like and just shook

1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.760
<v Speaker 2>his head like, honestly, Typy, you had one job to do,

1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:20.200
<v Speaker 2>put the presence up. It's like, I looked at Hi.

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what's the big Ooh? Is that what the

1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:25.800
<v Speaker 2>squealing was? Uh, it's only one. It was just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple because she has more than one. It was. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a big you know. Yeah, I'm telling myself

1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:32.800
<v Speaker 2>that as I'm like, yeake, preparing a big deal. It's

1:01:32.840 --> 1:01:38.520
<v Speaker 2>fine now, So what was your way to get up? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>It was the Majestic Totem poll on the cover of

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<v Speaker 1>Time magazine. Yes, with uh, Mindy Kaling, Oprah Winfrey, Reese, Witherspoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and Storm read from Ava du Verne's upcoming film A

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<v Speaker 1>Wrinkle in Time, which I ConFlat to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, honestly, it does look super super super often.

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<v Speaker 1>The future is female.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somebody said. Somebody was like that. It looked like

1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:05.320
<v Speaker 2>the death ro cover from Vibe magazine or the source.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember, You're like google death Row cover. It's Tupac.

1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:16.680
<v Speaker 2>It's what is his name? The Biggest Sugar Night? No,

1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Tupac Suge Night. And I think I think stoop Dogg

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<v Speaker 2>is on it, but they're wearing all black like that.

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<v Speaker 2>When you see it, you're gonna laugh hysterically. Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't he guilt tupac or something? What am I am?

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<v Speaker 1>I wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, well that's the that's they didn't post

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<v Speaker 2>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I see, I see, Yeah, you're right. This is

1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:37.760
<v Speaker 1>a photoshop. They didn't post the side by side Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's just funny because it's all black and stuff.

1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:43.640
<v Speaker 2>People are just like, huh, this looks like a source

1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.240
<v Speaker 2>magazine cover. No, but that definitely is a huge win.

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<v Speaker 2>My win is gonna go to my baby sister because

1:02:50.640 --> 1:02:52.520
<v Speaker 2>she found a job that she really likes. So she's

1:02:52.520 --> 1:02:54.800
<v Speaker 2>been working two jobs for like I don't know, like

1:02:54.880 --> 1:02:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a year or so now, one job on the weekend.

1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.600
<v Speaker 2>This is so like millennial. One job on the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>for for insurance, and then the other job because she

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<v Speaker 2>was really interested in that job, but it was a lot,

1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:08.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, working seven days a week. It's crazy. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we were talking about it and she wasn't happy

1:03:12.520 --> 1:03:14.360
<v Speaker 2>at one of the jobs anymore, and she just was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't you know, I don't want to be here.

1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I came here. It's kind of a startup, but it

1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:23.120
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't what she expected. And you know, and you know,

1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:26.480
<v Speaker 2>she just was Now that she's like getting older, she's

1:03:26.520 --> 1:03:31.080
<v Speaker 2>in her late twenties, she's not as I guess, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I was surprised that she just didn't quit,

1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:35.320
<v Speaker 2>because like that's the old her, Like I'm out, I

1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:37.440
<v Speaker 2>hate it, you know, But she was like, no, I'm

1:03:37.440 --> 1:03:39.920
<v Speaker 2>older now, I have bills and things, you know, I

1:03:39.960 --> 1:03:44.120
<v Speaker 2>don't feel comfortable. Yeah. I was actually really surprised, but

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<v Speaker 2>I told her. I was like, you know what, you

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<v Speaker 2>have choices, and she's like, I feel like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, you do that, you know, apply for

1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:53.600
<v Speaker 2>different places and ask yourself what you really want. And

1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I put some feelers out there, and I'm always till

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<v Speaker 2>she signed her papers to say where, because we actually

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<v Speaker 2>know her. Woman that ended up hiring her, she's like

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<v Speaker 2>she basically was gonna be a baby bedg atie stuff

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<v Speaker 2>for another company, which I thought was awesome because it'll

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<v Speaker 2>help her like reinforce the lessons that she's learned from

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<v Speaker 2>me and my dad. And so she's super excited because

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<v Speaker 2>it pays really well. It pays more than her two

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<v Speaker 2>jobs combined. And there's health insurance, And I said, look

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<v Speaker 2>at you. So this to me, this is like her

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<v Speaker 2>first like not first real job, but you know, like woohoo,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll get insurance and good pay, look at life.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just really proud of her. It's for like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like sticking with it and taking the leap

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<v Speaker 2>and doing what she needed to do. Her cover letter

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<v Speaker 2>was bombed, her resume was bombed. She did a great interview,

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<v Speaker 2>like I made the introduction, but there was no guarantee.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's something that this job did that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting and most jobs should do that. This

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<v Speaker 2>position had her do not an internship or an apprenticeship

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<v Speaker 2>where they said, okay, we know you have a regular job.

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<v Speaker 2>What days two days a week, are you free after

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<v Speaker 2>work or before work or whatever to come and basically

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<v Speaker 2>work with us. We'll pay you, but basically, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>work with us, and it's an apprenticeship. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>can decide whether you like us, and we can decide

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<v Speaker 2>if we like you, and now if it doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>then you don't have to quit where you are and

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<v Speaker 2>we just move on. But isn't that so genius?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do something like that with some people. We

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<v Speaker 1>do like a test run, so like producers, we would

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<v Speaker 1>have a producer come in and do a freelance project,

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<v Speaker 1>pay them. But it's like a good it's and some

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<v Speaker 1>some people think it's frustrating because it's like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want a full time job. But I think, get smart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much painful to get rid of a contract, like

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<v Speaker 1>a contractor than a full time person exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So during ther apprenticeship, you know that you're just basically

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<v Speaker 2>it was literally just a few weeks, like three weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>two days a week, and she went in and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I really do like it because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you never know what you're actually going to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>it to, you know what you're actually going to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing to do it. And so she enjoyed it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they enjoyed her, so they made her an offer. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yay, what a great way to start

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<v Speaker 2>the new year with a new job that you're excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, congratulations baby Lisa. Not to be her former

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<v Speaker 2>boss is listening, Oh wow, you lost a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just saw a headline and I'm like, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>this will have been a good win. Too, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, so I just read that you know

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<v Speaker 1>me too. The movement that was so the movement has

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of caught on this past spring. But the

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<v Speaker 1>founder of it is an African American woman named Tarana Burke.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to be leading the New York City ball

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<v Speaker 1>drop from New Year's Eve. Yeah, it's usually likes Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Seacrest and bad Maria carry lips thinking this is like

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<v Speaker 1>it's never really been political till now. But that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that is awesome. Wow, Okay, I love that

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<v Speaker 2>she's getting her shine on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because there was a lot of controversy because she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't on the cover of Time magazines People of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year issue, which I totally I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell they were thinking not putting her on the cover.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's nice that she gets her shine, like you said, Yeah, yeah, Tonta.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone was like somebody said Time Woman of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>or Time one of the Time Persons of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is Swanna Atlanta Mayor. Her name is Keisha.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes black girl magic hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that we had some first black female mayors get

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<v Speaker 1>elected in this past or is it not marriage? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I forget now One in Charlotte, North Carolina. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's the first African American black Uh yeah, black female

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<v Speaker 1>mayor in Carolina. I'm gonna tell real quick learning tree

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<v Speaker 1>is based.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, while you're while you're checking, everybody, say a

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<v Speaker 2>little put some good energy out there, pray or whatever that.

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<v Speaker 2>So remember that budget needs to law that I was

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<v Speaker 2>working on with a friend of mine who's a councilwoman

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<v Speaker 2>in Jersey City. Yes, and so the budget needs Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it hasn't passed yet because there's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good civics lesson about it has to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the committee and then the House, and so it

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<v Speaker 2>just got voted on to be voted on by the Senate,

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<v Speaker 2>so the whole Senate floor in New Jersey centate. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize that they were like senators, like fat federal senators,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't realize there were state senators. So all,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's like forty I think New Jersey state

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<v Speaker 2>senators are going to be voting on the bill soon.

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<v Speaker 2>And then after they vote, if they vote yes, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think I need twenty one votes. If they vote yes,

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<v Speaker 2>then it literally goes to Governor Christie's desk, So there's

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<v Speaker 2>only two more steps for this bill that would make

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<v Speaker 2>it mandatory for kids to learn financial education in elementary

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<v Speaker 2>and middle school, not just high school, but literally for

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<v Speaker 2>the entirety of your academic career while you're in public school.

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<v Speaker 2>This bill would make that mandatory.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, two more steps, singers crossed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Budget East the bill. It's really like Bill A

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<v Speaker 2>two three, four, five sets, but we call it the

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<v Speaker 2>budgetiest the bill. They wouldn't call it that officially, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, whatever, haters, But it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Okay, Yes, it is Charlotte, just Charlotte, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, its first female African American mayor, which

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome by Lyles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all this brown sugar everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's think about the positive things of the year

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. How Yeah, this is our last show before Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>So Merry Christmas, yes, Mary Christen and I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back the week after New Year's Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>By then the literature Challenge will have started and people

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<v Speaker 2>will be raising their net worth. Woo woo woo.

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<v Speaker 1>Exciting. This is an exciting time of year. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get cynical. I'm like, why not start fresh? It's nothing, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wrong with trying to start fresh and put

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<v Speaker 1>your best foot forward in the new year, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you might you know, break your you know your your plans.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months later, it's fine. You tried, yeah, try.

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<v Speaker 2>Two weeks later they're like, yeah, I'm over it all right. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year, and Merry Christmas and happy holidays to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone listening. We truly appreciate you allowing us to enter

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<v Speaker 2>into your earbuds another year.

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<v Speaker 1>So well said, I hate that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It just came from nowhere. I don't know where it came.

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<v Speaker 1>F I'm not even gonna say anything else. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to ruin the moment. Merry Christmas. I'm grateful for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Tiffany, and I go I'll see you next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm grateful for you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that whole situation downstairs. Bye bye,