WEBVTT - The Tudor Dixon Podcast: No PC Comedy Here with Michael Loftus 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.960 You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:10.800 and Book podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.680 I'm Tutor Dixon, and I refuse to believe that comedy 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.759 is dead. No matter how many times the boring progressive 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.040 activists try to drown it in their tears. Comedy will 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:25.479 rise above these attacks. And I mean, seriously, laughing is 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.880 good for the sole people. In fact, I've already been 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.400 laughing with my guest today. I didn't even know if 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.120 we could start the podcast because we were joking so much. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.599 My guest today is actually keeping comedy alive with his 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.360 own news show. That show Tonight. Michael Loftis is the 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.479 co creator and executive producer. Michael, thank you for being here. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.400 We'll see where this goes. You are a comedy genius 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:52.240 and you've already had me laughing hysterically. So why why 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:53.320 are they trying to kill it? 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:54.880 Well, first of all, let me just say I'm a 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.280 big fan, and probably because you called me a comedy genius. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.360 So let's let's just keep them was going. Can we 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.720 do an hour of that? That just seems great. I'll 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.720 just lie back and you're like, and I really thought 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.040 you were funny, and I'll be like, stop, We're. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.920 Going to change the name to just the Michael Loftis 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:16.400 fluff Show. Make it happy, whatever he wants see. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.680 But I would watch that. I would watch the Michael 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:19.640 Loftus fluff Show. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.480 I know, but we need more than one day. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:26.160 Yes, yeah, here. So I've been a comedian for a 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:31.399 very long time. Started back in the early nineties, moved 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:36.240 to Los Angeles in late ninety seven, worked in television, 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.440 had my own stand up special, you know, blah blah. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.920 I saw all this coming. It's funny, Like I stopped 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:48.920 performing at colleges like years before Seinfeld and those guys 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:56.520 started realizing just how bad things were. And it's really funny. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:01.080 It's there's no big confusion about like everybody. Usually people 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.160 want to talk about cancel culture and what do we do? 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.400 And you just you just keep going. You just refuse 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.720 to change for it. And I think that that's what 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.600 you know. You can dissect things and go okay, never apologize, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.480 which you which you never should do. However, you should 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.239 just continue to make people laugh. That's that seems that's 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.959 that's the winning combination. Just keep going on making fun 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.800 of the morons, making fun of the idiots, making fun 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.480 of the of the weird and awkward, making fun of yourself. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.640 But just don't change your behavior whatsoever. It's it's it's 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.239 there's no big mystery here. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.720 Just but you couldn't have Seinfeld today. I mean that 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.520 would be no No network would carry it because they 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.320 would be afraid. So how do you do it? How 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.080 do you do this? How do you keep going when 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.200 network goes ahole? We can't have the Soup Nazi, we 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:51.320 can't have that on TV? 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.320 Well, well you start, you start your own thing. That's 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.520 what I did with that show tonight. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:02:59.399 Uh. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.600 And it's it's been a wild road. But a few 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:10.720 years ago, I want to say twenty eighteen, because everybody 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.519 realized how popular The Daily Show was and the Colbert 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.280 Report and all those shows, and that all the late 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.440 night shows were coming from the same political point of view. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.200 They were all coming from the left, and so you 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:29.320 realize there's this huge gap. And then Roseanne Barr had 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:34.400 done the reboot of her show and it was wildly successful. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:40.080 Roseanne Barr was getting ratings like an NFL playoff game, seriously, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.760 like every Tuesday night. So I went out with a 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.520 super famous Hollywood big wig. This guy has produced, produced, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.640 and started in huge hit movies and hit TV shows. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.280 And so we came up with this like common sense, 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:03.400 right leaning, more conservative, libertarian answer for the Daily Show. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.080 And we started pitching it around town. And I'm telling you, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.040 as a guy who's I've pitched television shows, I've sold 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:14.480 television shows, I've written on network shows, these pitch meetings 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.200 that we did were some of the best ones I've 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.440 ever been a part of. Like our agents were in 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.479 the parking lot going, Okay, everybody, there's gonna be a 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.279 bidding war. This is gonna be huge. And all of 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:33.480 these outlets Netflix, Amazon, Sinclair, CBS, all these syndicated groups, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.440 they all turned it down. They go, Michael, we think 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.440 you're hilarious. We love this show. We know the show 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.200 would be a huge hit. We'd make a mountain of money, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.479 but we can't afford to be friendly to the right. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:50.240 So I mean, do you consider yourself the right? 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:56.760 Is that definitely I'm definitely right. I'm definitely right of 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.440 the middle where the country is now. But to me, 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:05.120 that's where all the comedy is right. So, to make 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.799 a long story short, I was just mortified just absolutely, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.039 absolutely mortified. I always thought, you think money would be 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.400 the great equalizer, you know, like, oh, I run a 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.640 television studio, I want to make money. Here's an underserved 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.480 part of America we should program to, and they were 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.280 just Nope, not going to do it. We know we 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.080 would make money, we know would be a hit, but 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.799 we don't want to be friendly to that segment of America. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.400 So that's when it was like right when the like 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.760 the lockdown started. And I've been approached many times to 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.880 do like a sketch show like SNL, but it leans 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.960 to the right. And this is the first time and 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:52.240 it's been the most work on a project, but also 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.279 the most satisfying, Like who knew you we have? We 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.839 had to get our own servers because you know, like 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.719 they started. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.440 Up parlor, I know, that's what I mean, they started 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.800 kicking people off. And I think about just I think 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.320 about comedy as such a I mean, such a calming 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.960 relief because those shows really were successful. And don't you 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.280 think society was happier back when we were watching shows 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.039 that were just goofy and made fun of people and 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.720 no one care. They enjoyed it. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.680 Yes, yeah, I mean it's I got. I did an 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:31.520 interview with the BBC recently and they couldn't believe that 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.359 there weren't any shows that leaned to the right, and 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.560 they're like, you know, in England, there's if you've got 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.200 a political party in the UK, I guarantee you have 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.040 a show that represents you, you know, in a comedy, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:49.359 lighthearted fashion. So it's just I think what happened is 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:54.599 the left realized what a stranglehold they have, you know 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.480 on social media Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube, and then they 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.839 and then all of cable beyond you know, beyond Fox News, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.760 they had they had a lock on the market. And 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.960 that's a huge Once you get a power like that, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.000 you're not going to let it go. You're not going 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.840 to let it go, right, which is. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:20.320 Fantastic, but it has created such an unhappy youth, and 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.960 people get so mad when you joke. Now, so you 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.680 probably have figured out that I like to joke around. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.440 I'm a joker, and I would joke around on the 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.320 campaign trail and that was not highly welcomed by the 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.640 leftist media. So one day we were on the trail 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.920 and we were talking about the lockdowns, and they said 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.920 she made a joke about the Gretchen Whitmer getting kidnapped, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.320 and I said, no, that wasn't a joke, but it 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.720 was a joke. Then later that night, when we were 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:55.560 talking about Gretchen Whitmer had walked through the she'd walk 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.800 through the auto show with Joe Biden, and I said, 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.760 Joe Biden reaches over and holds her hand hand at 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.600 the auto show and you could see her face like 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.280 I wish I were being kidnapped right now instead of this, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.040 And people were so mad about it. It was like, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:15.000 shame may this joke? And I'm like, it was a joke. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.800 And we had so many media come up to me 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.640 like what did you know? Do you apologize for this? 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.000 And I'm like, no, well, you stop making it so 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:29.040 that we can never have any levity in life. Everybody 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.680 knows I was joking, yes, And that's the problem is 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:37.360 that if you can't joke, then the opposite of that 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.920 is people just become uptight and angry, and that's when 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.160 you end up with this violence and hatred. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:49.120 Well, unfortunately it works. You know. My favorite part of 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.800 like the media and like journalism is how they they 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.640 won't be able to tell the difference like you obviously 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:58.960 like like you made an obvious joke and then they go, 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.800 wait a minute, why would you want that? Why were 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.440 They would do it with Trump all the time when 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.920 when he was serious, they'd act like he was joking. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.800 And when he's joking, they'd act like he's serious, and like, 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.079 what what would that? What does that mean? Right? 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.480 We must we must go into a deep dive analysis. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.920 And it works. But all of us are going remember 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.880 when you could be funny? Right for those days? 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.520 Yeah? Unfortunately though it works when you're especially going after 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.000 a political candidate. You know, they just want to, you know, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:39.400 bake in that negative, the negative negative, negative negative, And 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:40.839 then who cares a group of. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.760 People though that so desperately want comedy to come back. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:48.400 They don't care. They do not believe this blogoney about 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.640 you can't be funny anymore. I mean, honestly, I am 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.720 not kidding. When I look back at the shows that 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.320 I watched as a kid, Seinfeld would not be a 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.080 show today, could not be a show today. They would 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.920 never allow that, right, So. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.760 That's the exciting part. So that's the exciting part. Which 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:08.840 gets me too, are our national economic divorce? Like, so 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.480 those funny things aren't going to be allowed on like 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.520 network television. It's gonna be the end of comedy for 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.520 a lot of people, because like and I saw the 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.040 handwriting on the wall on the last shows that I 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.880 worked on on CBS and and even before that on ABC, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.520 where the sensors would say, oh, we can't really owe 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.280 and it's like, hey, it's a situation comedy. Like it's 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.120 a comedy. It's we're not making a documentary. We're not 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.000 telling people how to live their life. We're slinging jokes. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.720 Yet still they would get so uptight about it, you know, 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.720 and and censor a lot of things. So there's this 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.360 wonderful invention called the Internet, and let's just for the 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.360 people who want it. They can come out and watch 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.520 that show tonight. And then when I go out to 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.679 a comedy club, I've got a great little tour that 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.920 I'm I'm starting at the end end of this month, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.280 so the fun people can come out and enjoy their lives. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.720 You just you're just gonna get everything all a cart. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.480 But yeah, this will be it will be the end 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.480 of network television unless they come to their senses. It'll 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.600 be the end of cable TV unless they come to 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.319 their senses. And if you look at what Disney's doing, 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:23.679 Disney is batt in a thousand. They're they're simultaneously ruining 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:28.240 their brand, They're ruining Marvel, They're ruining Star Wars. It's 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.720 like everything they touched. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.160 I saw that you were not a fan of all 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:36.120 of the cameos. So you didn't Did you feel like 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:41.120 Lizzo and Jack Black just weren't a believable couple? What 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.079 was it that you just couldn't get with? 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.640 It's it's like the whole the whole mandalorian In in 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:52.160 general is just stupid. It's just stupid. I'm a huge 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.400 Star Wars fan, Like I'm a huge I'm a huge 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.920 John Favreau fan, and it's like, why do why do these? 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.800 It just keeps getting more stupid. And I have nothing 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.079 against Lizzo or Jack Black, but really, that's what you're 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.160 gonna do, That's what you're gonna do with Jack. Hey, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.400 I'm Jack Black and I'm eating food, and there's Lizzo. 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.160 I'm Lizzo and I'm eating food. It's like, oh my god, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.880 Like it's a waste, it's a waste of their talent. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.400 Yeah. No, I mean I think we all thought, but 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.760 that also was very strange because it was sort of 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.040 this posture of look at all these people we can get. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.000 But the whole appeal to the Star Wars brand is 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.559 that it's people you don't know and they create this 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.000 amazing show for you to watch. And so it really 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.480 went against everything that is Star Wars. And I think 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:46.640 that's why people went what just happened? And it was 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.400 totally out of context of what was going on in 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.520 the Mandalorian. But I think that this is just what 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:58.760 is happening in I mean, it's happening in all these brands. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:03.280 They're just die and we're saying why what I mean 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.800 SNL SNL today is not the SNL that it used 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.079 to be. I mean, think about can you imagine having 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:10.680 Pat on SNL today? 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.280 Right all right? 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.000 Because it'd be like are you offended by that? 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.760 Comedy is always like light years ahead of the crowd, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.920 Like light years ahead, Pat doing that whole thing money. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.600 Python did some hilarious stuff about like the trans movement 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.080 back during a Life of Brian and you're just like, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.160 holy smoke, and that's like it's the canary in the 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.440 coal mine. South Park does some wonderful stuff, and I also, yes, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.920 that that new sketch comedy show, that show tonight, that's 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.520 some hilarious things as well. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.920 So tell us about but you are you have a 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.240 page people can go Do they pay for this? 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:52.800 How do you? 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:53.640 How do you? Yes? 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.760 They pay for it? And that is the the the 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:59.920 great thing. It's like a la cart you're going to. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.439 It's like a secret society. Now if you want to laugh, 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.600 you have to you have to pay for it secretly 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:05.120 on your own. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:05.520 Yes. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.040 Cool. I think that's fine. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.040 Sponsors aren't going to touch it. Sponsors aren't gonna come 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.160 near this until there's a level of success. And then 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.000 I'd love the transition to where we're just giving it away, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.360 you know, as as the world comes to their senses. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.080 But yeah, they go to that show tonight dot com 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.680 and it's a it's it's like five bucks a month. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.680 And here's the great thing. Now, content creators are finding 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:36.400 us people. There's people who are making these wonderfully funny mockumentaries. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:40.080 They're making feature films. So like I just wanted to 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.880 do a comedy show, you know, just like hey, once 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.360 a month, we'll do the show. It's five bucks, you 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.120 get it. You know, it's a deal. If you sign 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.680 up for the whole year or whatever, Like Jim Brewer's 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:54.000 done shows with us, and Dave Landau just did a show. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.240 Christy Swanson's going to be doing a show. Dean Kane. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.600 I want to get like I'm just like everybody. But 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.160 now the these content creators are coming to us, so like, okay, crap, 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.320 we need some more bandwidth because we're gonna have to 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.000 add this show and that movie. So it's quickly turning 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:12.120 into like a little mini streaming service, which just is 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.080 exciting and put some lead in my pencil. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.000 Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:25.440 the Tutor Dixon podcast. So you are taking over as 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.600 like the conservative version of which I don't. I think 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.680 comedy is just comedy, so I hate to label it 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.480 in one realm or the other. But it gives you 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.080 kind of that comedy Central network that you can create 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.480 for people who are still wanting to see actual comedy. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.560 I mean, I really feel like it's this secret society 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.480 now where you're like going to the speak easy. What 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.920 are you doing here today listening to comedy? 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.960 Don't tell anybody it's a news It's a Dave Chappelle show. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:16:00.240 They're protesting outside. Yes, it's funny, and it's like, I 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.560 want it to be comedy for everybody. It's what like, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.600 like Comedy Central has been into censorship and trying to 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:13.000 steer the taste of America for decades now, for decades now, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.960 Like the Blue Collar Comedy Tour was like the one 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.120 of the most successful things Comedy Central ever did, but 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.360 they always kind of kick those guys to the curb 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.760 and never really gave them the respect that they deserve. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.400 Same thing with Jeff Donham. Jeff Donham amazing success on 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.400 Comedy Central. Every one of his specials was huge, but 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.240 they always just kind of, you know, put him to 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.040 the side because they want to decide who's cool and 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.440 who's not cool, and they want. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.960 To be in How do you censor comedy? Isn't the 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.360 whole point of comedy the shock and awe It makes 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:49.200 you laugh. It's something so outrageous that you just think 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.520 it's hilarious. If you have to, if you have to 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.320 censor comedy, then we will never laugh again. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:01.040 That's right. Comedy exists on surprise. You know that. You 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.119 It's like it's like a knock knock joke, knock knock, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.520 Who's there about. So you you set up this reality 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.080 and then you have this element of surprise, and with 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:14.120 like woke culture and censorship, you're taking away that sense 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.760 of surprise. I know exactly where Jimmy Fallon's going with 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.440 a joke. I know exactly where Stephen Colbert is going 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.280 with a joke. I can write it faster than they 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:27.920 can say it. But at least with Gutfeld, you're like, Okay, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.960 oh oh, that was a surprise, you know, and that's 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.760 why he's number one in Late Night. Now. It's not Ryant. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.399 It's not rocket surgery. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.439 Right right, No, there is not rocket surgery. So it's 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:43.679 not definitely not that. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.160 Definitely not that. See and like you think I'm gonna 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.840 say rocket science, but I turned to surgery. That, my friends, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.040 is comedy. Are you guys writing this down? You should 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:53.520 probably run. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.240 I know, I know we should be because maybe that's 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:01.000 the next step in this whole podcast if we can 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.760 just But honestly, I think it's such a draw and 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.919 that's why I laugh about the Secret Society. But I 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.920 think people are dying to go back to those old 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.879 days where you could watch a show and just laugh. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.040 I mean, and I used to I remember doing my 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.920 homework in high school and listening to my parents laugh 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.080 out loud at nighttime TV. And I don't even think 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.520 people watch TV anymore. They don't watch the network. They're 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.040 always streaming. It's whatever show you're into, you just binge 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.280 watch it. How do we get back to the fact 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.760 that we see people laughing, Well, that. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.679 Is why we film. We do that show tonight in 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:42.320 front of a live studio audience. That to me is everything. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:46.119 And this is my own personal philosophy on comedy and 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.240 theater and all of us. I still think that we've 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:53.439 got that Caveman DNA. It's funnier when you're in a 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.800 group of people when you're in a group of people 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.280 watching something all the same time, Like those old sitcoms, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.120 you know, you'd get that great thing, you know, blah 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.760 blah blah. It was filmed live in front of a 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.440 studio audience. I always love it. And like Saturday Night 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.600 Live used to have that as well, where it's like, 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.440 oh my god, that thing just happened and I'm there 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:18.320 was episodes of like Taxi where I literally thought my 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.200 dad was gonna die. I thought I was watching him 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:26.000 die in front of my area. What does oh yello 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.960 like me? That was just it so And when you 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.920 hear the audience just roaring with laughter, that's the that's 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.560 the thing. You need, that live audience. And when when yeah, 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.360 people are like just watching from their home and they 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.719 don't and audiences are smart. You can tell when it's 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.960 a crappy laugh track and when they're trying to fake it. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.760 You know, right of course if you watching. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.520 At home, you want to be part of that community experience, 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.560 like like at a comedy club. My favorite when I'm 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.280 doing when I'm on stage doing stand up, I always 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.000 love it. I love the moment like you're just you know, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.320 you want to crush and you'll tell a joke, you know, 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.040 and you just know you're just hammering. You're like Mike Tyson, 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.159 and you'll see somebody in the audience like howling, and 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.480 then they'll look over at a stranger and like they'll 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.240 have this like shared quick communication like oh my god, 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.080 oh my god, can you believe us? 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.800 That's the best, right, And that's something that we don't 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.399 see anymore. The other night, we had The Golden Girls 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.280 on and my my oldest daughter said to my mom, 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.480 this show is so annoying. There's constantly people laughing as 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.840 they're talking, and I thought, oh my word, she's never 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.000 heard a show in front of a live studio audience 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.720 because they're just watching all of this junk that they 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.400 come across. Or it's a you know, some Mermaid show 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.320 and they watched seventy five episodes of it in a row, 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.160 you know. And I think they're missing out on this. 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.600 A whole generation could miss it if we do not 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:56.520 bring comedy back. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.280 Yes, yeah, I mean I'm always gonna have of like 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.679 hope and an optimistic look at the future because they 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.879 said that like, oh, movies are gonna kill Broadway, that'll 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:10.240 be the end of Broadway. 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.399 And I just checked the other day, will kill the 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:13.960 Radio Star? 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.520 And I think, well it did. 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:18.600 No, I still listen to radio. 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.119 We're still no. But like you know that thing when 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.199 you're watching a music video and you see somebody really 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.199 ugly singing, You're like, wow, they must be talented. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.960 But now now those are the people that are lifted up. 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.920 It's like, look at how amazing and strong and brave. 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:42.959 Right, yeah, it's Lizo in a G string. She must 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:44.399 really be great. 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.840 I was thrilled actually when I saw her in the 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.040 gown on the Mandalorian because it was the most close 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:52.040 I've ever seen on Lizzo. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.879 Yeah. Yeah, Listen, the costume department isn't the problem on 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:01.840 the Mandalorian. It's it's the writers that's that's that's the problem. 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.600 Costuming is so good they had She's so big, they 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.560 had a hologram following her. Did you see that? Like 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.320 walking through and they just like, we're gonna put this 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.200 hologram thing behind you from more. 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.760 Coverage what is attached to her? And I think it 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.040 was because I have never seen so much of her 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.119 body covered. And then there was something hanging off of 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:28.840 the back, and I thought this is very strange because 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:33.639 it wouldn't her fans of just her nude body hanging 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.160