Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay
Speaker 1: and Book podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon, and I refuse to believe that comedy
Speaker 1: is dead. No matter how many times the boring progressive
Speaker 1: activists try to drown it in their tears. Comedy will
Speaker 1: rise above these attacks. And I mean, seriously, laughing is
Speaker 1: good for the sole people. In fact, I've already been
Speaker 1: laughing with my guest today. I didn't even know if
Speaker 1: we could start the podcast because we were joking so much.
Speaker 1: My guest today is actually keeping comedy alive with his
Speaker 1: own news show. That show Tonight. Michael Loftis is the
Speaker 1: co creator and executive producer. Michael, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: We'll see where this goes. You are a comedy genius
Speaker 1: and you've already had me laughing hysterically. So why why
Speaker 1: are they trying to kill it?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let me just say I'm a
Speaker 2: big fan, and probably because you called me a comedy genius.
Speaker 2: So let's let's just keep them was going. Can we
Speaker 2: do an hour of that? That just seems great. I'll
Speaker 2: just lie back and you're like, and I really thought
Speaker 2: you were funny, and I'll be like, stop, We're.
Speaker 1: Going to change the name to just the Michael Loftis
Speaker 1: fluff Show. Make it happy, whatever he wants see.
Speaker 2: But I would watch that. I would watch the Michael
Speaker 2: Loftus fluff Show.
Speaker 1: I know, but we need more than one day.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, here. So I've been a comedian for a
Speaker 2: very long time. Started back in the early nineties, moved
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles in late ninety seven, worked in television,
Speaker 2: had my own stand up special, you know, blah blah.
Speaker 2: I saw all this coming. It's funny, Like I stopped
Speaker 2: performing at colleges like years before Seinfeld and those guys
Speaker 2: started realizing just how bad things were. And it's really funny.
Speaker 2: It's there's no big confusion about like everybody. Usually people
Speaker 2: want to talk about cancel culture and what do we do?
Speaker 2: And you just you just keep going. You just refuse
Speaker 2: to change for it. And I think that that's what
Speaker 2: you know. You can dissect things and go okay, never apologize,
Speaker 2: which you which you never should do. However, you should
Speaker 2: just continue to make people laugh. That's that seems that's
Speaker 2: that's the winning combination. Just keep going on making fun
Speaker 2: of the morons, making fun of the idiots, making fun
Speaker 2: of the of the weird and awkward, making fun of yourself.
Speaker 2: But just don't change your behavior whatsoever. It's it's it's
Speaker 2: there's no big mystery here.
Speaker 1: Just but you couldn't have Seinfeld today. I mean that
Speaker 1: would be no No network would carry it because they
Speaker 1: would be afraid. So how do you do it? How
Speaker 1: do you do this? How do you keep going when
Speaker 1: network goes ahole? We can't have the Soup Nazi, we
Speaker 1: can't have that on TV?
Speaker 2: Well, well you start, you start your own thing. That's
Speaker 2: what I did with that show tonight.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's it's been a wild road. But a few
Speaker 2: years ago, I want to say twenty eighteen, because everybody
Speaker 2: realized how popular The Daily Show was and the Colbert
Speaker 2: Report and all those shows, and that all the late
Speaker 2: night shows were coming from the same political point of view.
Speaker 2: They were all coming from the left, and so you
Speaker 2: realize there's this huge gap. And then Roseanne Barr had
Speaker 2: done the reboot of her show and it was wildly successful.
Speaker 2: Roseanne Barr was getting ratings like an NFL playoff game, seriously,
Speaker 2: like every Tuesday night. So I went out with a
Speaker 2: super famous Hollywood big wig. This guy has produced, produced,
Speaker 2: and started in huge hit movies and hit TV shows.
Speaker 2: And so we came up with this like common sense,
Speaker 2: right leaning, more conservative, libertarian answer for the Daily Show.
Speaker 2: And we started pitching it around town. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: as a guy who's I've pitched television shows, I've sold
Speaker 2: television shows, I've written on network shows, these pitch meetings
Speaker 2: that we did were some of the best ones I've
Speaker 2: ever been a part of. Like our agents were in
Speaker 2: the parking lot going, Okay, everybody, there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: bidding war. This is gonna be huge. And all of
Speaker 2: these outlets Netflix, Amazon, Sinclair, CBS, all these syndicated groups,
Speaker 2: they all turned it down. They go, Michael, we think
Speaker 2: you're hilarious. We love this show. We know the show
Speaker 2: would be a huge hit. We'd make a mountain of money,
Speaker 2: but we can't afford to be friendly to the right.
Speaker 1: So I mean, do you consider yourself the right?
Speaker 2: Is that definitely I'm definitely right. I'm definitely right of
Speaker 2: the middle where the country is now. But to me,
Speaker 2: that's where all the comedy is right. So, to make
Speaker 2: a long story short, I was just mortified just absolutely,
Speaker 2: absolutely mortified. I always thought, you think money would be
Speaker 2: the great equalizer, you know, like, oh, I run a
Speaker 2: television studio, I want to make money. Here's an underserved
Speaker 2: part of America we should program to, and they were
Speaker 2: just Nope, not going to do it. We know we
Speaker 2: would make money, we know would be a hit, but
Speaker 2: we don't want to be friendly to that segment of America.
Speaker 2: So that's when it was like right when the like
Speaker 2: the lockdown started. And I've been approached many times to
Speaker 2: do like a sketch show like SNL, but it leans
Speaker 2: to the right. And this is the first time and
Speaker 2: it's been the most work on a project, but also
Speaker 2: the most satisfying, Like who knew you we have? We
Speaker 2: had to get our own servers because you know, like
Speaker 2: they started.
Speaker 1: Up parlor, I know, that's what I mean, they started
Speaker 1: kicking people off. And I think about just I think
Speaker 1: about comedy as such a I mean, such a calming
Speaker 1: relief because those shows really were successful. And don't you
Speaker 1: think society was happier back when we were watching shows
Speaker 1: that were just goofy and made fun of people and
Speaker 1: no one care. They enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean it's I got. I did an
Speaker 2: interview with the BBC recently and they couldn't believe that
Speaker 2: there weren't any shows that leaned to the right, and
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, in England, there's if you've got
Speaker 2: a political party in the UK, I guarantee you have
Speaker 2: a show that represents you, you know, in a comedy,
Speaker 2: lighthearted fashion. So it's just I think what happened is
Speaker 2: the left realized what a stranglehold they have, you know
Speaker 2: on social media Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube, and then they
Speaker 2: and then all of cable beyond you know, beyond Fox News,
Speaker 2: they had they had a lock on the market. And
Speaker 2: that's a huge Once you get a power like that,
Speaker 2: you're not going to let it go. You're not going
Speaker 2: to let it go, right, which is.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, but it has created such an unhappy youth, and
Speaker 1: people get so mad when you joke. Now, so you
Speaker 1: probably have figured out that I like to joke around.
Speaker 1: I'm a joker, and I would joke around on the
Speaker 1: campaign trail and that was not highly welcomed by the
Speaker 1: leftist media. So one day we were on the trail
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the lockdowns, and they said
Speaker 1: she made a joke about the Gretchen Whitmer getting kidnapped,
Speaker 1: and I said, no, that wasn't a joke, but it
Speaker 1: was a joke. Then later that night, when we were
Speaker 1: talking about Gretchen Whitmer had walked through the she'd walk
Speaker 1: through the auto show with Joe Biden, and I said,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden reaches over and holds her hand hand at
Speaker 1: the auto show and you could see her face like
Speaker 1: I wish I were being kidnapped right now instead of this,
Speaker 1: And people were so mad about it. It was like,
Speaker 1: shame may this joke? And I'm like, it was a joke.
Speaker 1: And we had so many media come up to me
Speaker 1: like what did you know? Do you apologize for this?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, well, you stop making it so
Speaker 1: that we can never have any levity in life. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows I was joking, yes, And that's the problem is
Speaker 1: that if you can't joke, then the opposite of that
Speaker 1: is people just become uptight and angry, and that's when
Speaker 1: you end up with this violence and hatred.
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately it works. You know. My favorite part of
Speaker 2: like the media and like journalism is how they they
Speaker 2: won't be able to tell the difference like you obviously
Speaker 2: like like you made an obvious joke and then they go,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, why would you want that? Why were
Speaker 2: They would do it with Trump all the time when
Speaker 2: when he was serious, they'd act like he was joking.
Speaker 2: And when he's joking, they'd act like he's serious, and like,
Speaker 2: what what would that? What does that mean? Right?
Speaker 1: We must we must go into a deep dive analysis.
Speaker 1: And it works. But all of us are going remember
Speaker 1: when you could be funny? Right for those days?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Unfortunately though it works when you're especially going after
Speaker 2: a political candidate. You know, they just want to, you know,
Speaker 2: bake in that negative, the negative negative, negative negative, And
Speaker 2: then who cares a group of.
Speaker 1: People though that so desperately want comedy to come back.
Speaker 1: They don't care. They do not believe this blogoney about
Speaker 1: you can't be funny anymore. I mean, honestly, I am
Speaker 1: not kidding. When I look back at the shows that
Speaker 1: I watched as a kid, Seinfeld would not be a
Speaker 1: show today, could not be a show today. They would
Speaker 1: never allow that, right, So.
Speaker 2: That's the exciting part. So that's the exciting part. Which
Speaker 2: gets me too, are our national economic divorce? Like, so
Speaker 2: those funny things aren't going to be allowed on like
Speaker 2: network television. It's gonna be the end of comedy for
Speaker 2: a lot of people, because like and I saw the
Speaker 2: handwriting on the wall on the last shows that I
Speaker 2: worked on on CBS and and even before that on ABC,
Speaker 2: where the sensors would say, oh, we can't really owe
Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, it's a situation comedy. Like it's
Speaker 2: a comedy. It's we're not making a documentary. We're not
Speaker 2: telling people how to live their life. We're slinging jokes.
Speaker 2: Yet still they would get so uptight about it, you know,
Speaker 2: and and censor a lot of things. So there's this
Speaker 2: wonderful invention called the Internet, and let's just for the
Speaker 2: people who want it. They can come out and watch
Speaker 2: that show tonight. And then when I go out to
Speaker 2: a comedy club, I've got a great little tour that
Speaker 2: I'm I'm starting at the end end of this month,
Speaker 2: so the fun people can come out and enjoy their lives.
Speaker 2: You just you're just gonna get everything all a cart.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this will be it will be the end
Speaker 2: of network television unless they come to their senses. It'll
Speaker 2: be the end of cable TV unless they come to
Speaker 2: their senses. And if you look at what Disney's doing,
Speaker 2: Disney is batt in a thousand. They're they're simultaneously ruining
Speaker 2: their brand, They're ruining Marvel, They're ruining Star Wars. It's
Speaker 2: like everything they touched.
Speaker 1: I saw that you were not a fan of all
Speaker 1: of the cameos. So you didn't Did you feel like
Speaker 1: Lizzo and Jack Black just weren't a believable couple? What
Speaker 1: was it that you just couldn't get with?
Speaker 2: It's it's like the whole the whole mandalorian In in
Speaker 2: general is just stupid. It's just stupid. I'm a huge
Speaker 2: Star Wars fan, Like I'm a huge I'm a huge
Speaker 2: John Favreau fan, and it's like, why do why do these?
Speaker 2: It just keeps getting more stupid. And I have nothing
Speaker 2: against Lizzo or Jack Black, but really, that's what you're
Speaker 2: gonna do, That's what you're gonna do with Jack. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm Jack Black and I'm eating food, and there's Lizzo.
Speaker 2: I'm Lizzo and I'm eating food. It's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: Like it's a waste, it's a waste of their talent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean I think we all thought, but
Speaker 1: that also was very strange because it was sort of
Speaker 1: this posture of look at all these people we can get.
Speaker 1: But the whole appeal to the Star Wars brand is
Speaker 1: that it's people you don't know and they create this
Speaker 1: amazing show for you to watch. And so it really
Speaker 1: went against everything that is Star Wars. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why people went what just happened? And it was
Speaker 1: totally out of context of what was going on in
Speaker 1: the Mandalorian. But I think that this is just what
Speaker 1: is happening in I mean, it's happening in all these brands.
Speaker 1: They're just die and we're saying why what I mean
Speaker 1: SNL SNL today is not the SNL that it used
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, think about can you imagine having
Speaker 1: Pat on SNL today?
Speaker 2: Right all right?
Speaker 1: Because it'd be like are you offended by that?
Speaker 2: Comedy is always like light years ahead of the crowd,
Speaker 2: Like light years ahead, Pat doing that whole thing money.
Speaker 2: Python did some hilarious stuff about like the trans movement
Speaker 2: back during a Life of Brian and you're just like,
Speaker 2: holy smoke, and that's like it's the canary in the
Speaker 2: coal mine. South Park does some wonderful stuff, and I also, yes,
Speaker 2: that that new sketch comedy show, that show tonight, that's
Speaker 2: some hilarious things as well.
Speaker 1: So tell us about but you are you have a
Speaker 1: page people can go Do they pay for this?
Speaker 2: How do you?
Speaker 1: How do you? Yes?
Speaker 2: They pay for it? And that is the the the
Speaker 2: great thing. It's like a la cart you're going to.
Speaker 1: It's like a secret society. Now if you want to laugh,
Speaker 1: you have to you have to pay for it secretly
Speaker 1: on your own.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Cool. I think that's fine.
Speaker 2: Sponsors aren't going to touch it. Sponsors aren't gonna come
Speaker 2: near this until there's a level of success. And then
Speaker 2: I'd love the transition to where we're just giving it away,
Speaker 2: you know, as as the world comes to their senses.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they go to that show tonight dot com
Speaker 2: and it's a it's it's like five bucks a month.
Speaker 2: And here's the great thing. Now, content creators are finding
Speaker 2: us people. There's people who are making these wonderfully funny mockumentaries.
Speaker 2: They're making feature films. So like I just wanted to
Speaker 2: do a comedy show, you know, just like hey, once
Speaker 2: a month, we'll do the show. It's five bucks, you
Speaker 2: get it. You know, it's a deal. If you sign
Speaker 2: up for the whole year or whatever, Like Jim Brewer's
Speaker 2: done shows with us, and Dave Landau just did a show.
Speaker 2: Christy Swanson's going to be doing a show. Dean Kane.
Speaker 2: I want to get like I'm just like everybody. But
Speaker 2: now the these content creators are coming to us, so like, okay, crap,
Speaker 2: we need some more bandwidth because we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: add this show and that movie. So it's quickly turning
Speaker 2: into like a little mini streaming service, which just is
Speaker 2: exciting and put some lead in my pencil.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. So you are taking over as
Speaker 1: like the conservative version of which I don't. I think
Speaker 1: comedy is just comedy, so I hate to label it
Speaker 1: in one realm or the other. But it gives you
Speaker 1: kind of that comedy Central network that you can create
Speaker 1: for people who are still wanting to see actual comedy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really feel like it's this secret society
Speaker 1: now where you're like going to the speak easy. What
Speaker 1: are you doing here today listening to comedy?
Speaker 2: Don't tell anybody it's a news It's a Dave Chappelle show.
Speaker 2: They're protesting outside. Yes, it's funny, and it's like, I
Speaker 2: want it to be comedy for everybody. It's what like,
Speaker 2: like Comedy Central has been into censorship and trying to
Speaker 2: steer the taste of America for decades now, for decades now,
Speaker 2: Like the Blue Collar Comedy Tour was like the one
Speaker 2: of the most successful things Comedy Central ever did, but
Speaker 2: they always kind of kick those guys to the curb
Speaker 2: and never really gave them the respect that they deserve.
Speaker 2: Same thing with Jeff Donham. Jeff Donham amazing success on
Speaker 2: Comedy Central. Every one of his specials was huge, but
Speaker 2: they always just kind of, you know, put him to
Speaker 2: the side because they want to decide who's cool and
Speaker 2: who's not cool, and they want.
Speaker 1: To be in How do you censor comedy? Isn't the
Speaker 1: whole point of comedy the shock and awe It makes
Speaker 1: you laugh. It's something so outrageous that you just think
Speaker 1: it's hilarious. If you have to, if you have to
Speaker 1: censor comedy, then we will never laugh again.
Speaker 2: That's right. Comedy exists on surprise. You know that. You
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a knock knock joke, knock knock,
Speaker 2: Who's there about. So you you set up this reality
Speaker 2: and then you have this element of surprise, and with
Speaker 2: like woke culture and censorship, you're taking away that sense
Speaker 2: of surprise. I know exactly where Jimmy Fallon's going with
Speaker 2: a joke. I know exactly where Stephen Colbert is going
Speaker 2: with a joke. I can write it faster than they
Speaker 2: can say it. But at least with Gutfeld, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: oh oh, that was a surprise, you know, and that's
Speaker 2: why he's number one in Late Night. Now. It's not Ryant.
Speaker 2: It's not rocket surgery.
Speaker 1: Right right, No, there is not rocket surgery. So it's
Speaker 1: not definitely not that.
Speaker 2: Definitely not that. See and like you think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say rocket science, but I turned to surgery. That, my friends,
Speaker 2: is comedy. Are you guys writing this down? You should
Speaker 2: probably run.
Speaker 1: I know, I know we should be because maybe that's
Speaker 1: the next step in this whole podcast if we can
Speaker 1: just But honestly, I think it's such a draw and
Speaker 1: that's why I laugh about the Secret Society. But I
Speaker 1: think people are dying to go back to those old
Speaker 1: days where you could watch a show and just laugh.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I used to I remember doing my
Speaker 1: homework in high school and listening to my parents laugh
Speaker 1: out loud at nighttime TV. And I don't even think
Speaker 1: people watch TV anymore. They don't watch the network. They're
Speaker 1: always streaming. It's whatever show you're into, you just binge
Speaker 1: watch it. How do we get back to the fact
Speaker 1: that we see people laughing, Well, that.
Speaker 2: Is why we film. We do that show tonight in
Speaker 2: front of a live studio audience. That to me is everything.
Speaker 2: And this is my own personal philosophy on comedy and
Speaker 2: theater and all of us. I still think that we've
Speaker 2: got that Caveman DNA. It's funnier when you're in a
Speaker 2: group of people when you're in a group of people
Speaker 2: watching something all the same time, Like those old sitcoms,
Speaker 2: you know, you'd get that great thing, you know, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. It was filmed live in front of a
Speaker 2: studio audience. I always love it. And like Saturday Night
Speaker 2: Live used to have that as well, where it's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that thing just happened and I'm there
Speaker 2: was episodes of like Taxi where I literally thought my
Speaker 2: dad was gonna die. I thought I was watching him
Speaker 2: die in front of my area. What does oh yello
Speaker 2: like me? That was just it so And when you
Speaker 2: hear the audience just roaring with laughter, that's the that's
Speaker 2: the thing. You need, that live audience. And when when yeah,
Speaker 2: people are like just watching from their home and they
Speaker 2: don't and audiences are smart. You can tell when it's
Speaker 2: a crappy laugh track and when they're trying to fake it.
Speaker 1: You know, right of course if you watching.
Speaker 2: At home, you want to be part of that community experience,
Speaker 2: like like at a comedy club. My favorite when I'm
Speaker 2: doing when I'm on stage doing stand up, I always
Speaker 2: love it. I love the moment like you're just you know,
Speaker 2: you want to crush and you'll tell a joke, you know,
Speaker 2: and you just know you're just hammering. You're like Mike Tyson,
Speaker 2: and you'll see somebody in the audience like howling, and
Speaker 2: then they'll look over at a stranger and like they'll
Speaker 2: have this like shared quick communication like oh my god,
Speaker 2: oh my god, can you believe us?
Speaker 1: That's the best, right, And that's something that we don't
Speaker 1: see anymore. The other night, we had The Golden Girls
Speaker 1: on and my my oldest daughter said to my mom,
Speaker 1: this show is so annoying. There's constantly people laughing as
Speaker 1: they're talking, and I thought, oh my word, she's never
Speaker 1: heard a show in front of a live studio audience
Speaker 1: because they're just watching all of this junk that they
Speaker 1: come across. Or it's a you know, some Mermaid show
Speaker 1: and they watched seventy five episodes of it in a row,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think they're missing out on this.
Speaker 1: A whole generation could miss it if we do not
Speaker 1: bring comedy back.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean I'm always gonna have of like
Speaker 2: hope and an optimistic look at the future because they
Speaker 2: said that like, oh, movies are gonna kill Broadway, that'll
Speaker 2: be the end of Broadway.
Speaker 1: And I just checked the other day, will kill the
Speaker 1: Radio Star?
Speaker 2: And I think, well it did.
Speaker 1: No, I still listen to radio.
Speaker 2: We're still no. But like you know that thing when
Speaker 2: you're watching a music video and you see somebody really
Speaker 2: ugly singing, You're like, wow, they must be talented.
Speaker 1: But now now those are the people that are lifted up.
Speaker 1: It's like, look at how amazing and strong and brave.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, it's Lizo in a G string. She must
Speaker 2: really be great.
Speaker 1: I was thrilled actually when I saw her in the
Speaker 1: gown on the Mandalorian because it was the most close
Speaker 1: I've ever seen on Lizzo.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Listen, the costume department isn't the problem on
Speaker 2: the Mandalorian. It's it's the writers that's that's that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Costuming is so good they had She's so big, they
Speaker 2: had a hologram following her. Did you see that? Like
Speaker 2: walking through and they just like, we're gonna put this
Speaker 2: hologram thing behind you from more.
Speaker 1: Coverage what is attached to her? And I think it
Speaker 1: was because I have never seen so much of her
Speaker 1: body covered. And then there was something hanging off of
Speaker 1: the back, and I thought this is very strange because
Speaker 1: it wouldn't her fans of just her nude body hanging
Speaker 1: out there be a little offended that not only does
Speaker 1: she have so many clothes on, but they have added
Speaker 1: a hologram behind her. I don't maybe that was the
Speaker 1: problem with it. It's almost I know you were hoping
Speaker 1: for the G string.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Listen, I'm always hoping for the G string.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you feel if you feel comfy
Speaker 2: with them suns out, buns out, then you go girl
Speaker 2: like that's that's the least of our problems. My problem
Speaker 2: is when society tries to say that that's healthy, like,
Speaker 2: m I don't know, I don't know how. I don't
Speaker 2: know how, Like like the real big Girl, I don't
Speaker 2: know how healthy that is. But you wear what you
Speaker 2: want to wear. You want to rock a G string
Speaker 2: on your private jet, Well you go, Lizzo.
Speaker 1: You know listen, I am. I walked by Victoria's Secret
Speaker 1: the other day and the girls were with me and
Speaker 1: they looked at it and they were like, you could
Speaker 1: see the looks on their faces were confused. Now when
Speaker 1: I was their age and walked past Victoria's Secret, all
Speaker 1: of the models were these incredibly sexy, super hot supermodels right,
Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, this is an unachievable lifestyle.
Speaker 1: We should never have these supermodels. And so then we
Speaker 1: ended up with real people. And the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is that when you are a real people, and
Speaker 1: you are a real person and you see yourself up
Speaker 1: there in Victoria's Secret clothes, you're like, oh, crap, I
Speaker 1: don't want to look like that. And then you walk
Speaker 1: by when you see a supermodel, You're like, am I
Speaker 1: gonna look like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in there and get myself some of those,
Speaker 1: and and that was how I felt I looked at it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, shoot, if I'm going to see my
Speaker 1: own fat body looking at me, I don't want to
Speaker 1: go in there and get underpaid.
Speaker 2: I can. I can get baggy sweatpants at.
Speaker 1: Target exactly exactly. I'm like, where are these brand managers
Speaker 1: that are like, let's put the average mom body up there.
Speaker 1: Every mom will come in and want these. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: we like to think that we don't have a mom body.
Speaker 1: That I have the opportunity to be gisil. But now
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to look at this and remember
Speaker 1: that's what I'll look like in that outfit. You would
Speaker 1: be better off making me believe that I'm going to
Speaker 1: look hot.
Speaker 2: Yes, and making you Isn't it better for society not
Speaker 2: to get too philosophical here, but to aspire to something.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I do I do feel a little
Speaker 2: less than so I should probably try to better myself
Speaker 2: today so I can get closer to this ideal. Like listen, uh,
Speaker 2: I could look I could look like Michaelangelo's David if
Speaker 2: I wanted to, Like, really, I could I just it's time, man.
Speaker 2: But no, we should aspire to be better. We should
Speaker 2: aspire towards beauty, we should aspire towards it.
Speaker 1: But that was the idea that they killed when when
Speaker 1: we were young, it was like, do not tell people
Speaker 1: they should aspire to this, because you're gonna hurt the
Speaker 1: feelings of the people who don't. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm actually never gonna have the same body as Giselle,
Speaker 1: but I like to think that there's a chance, and
Speaker 1: it does make me want to do something better for
Speaker 1: myself and for my kids, just it inspires me to
Speaker 1: have them eat healthier and think about things differently. But
Speaker 1: because we were told no, actually you should embrace the opposite,
Speaker 1: it really messed up society, and honestly, it has messed
Speaker 1: up all of these brands. Nobody I was after, I mean,
Speaker 1: because I'm sort of weird, and I did have that
Speaker 1: moment where I went, I don't I don't actually want
Speaker 1: to see my real body standing like staring at me
Speaker 1: in underwear. I was like, how is this working out
Speaker 1: for Victoria's Secret? And I looked it up and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, pretty bad? Yes, not a
Speaker 1: good thing. No one else wants to see that either.
Speaker 2: It's it's wild to watch all these brands completely self destruct.
Speaker 2: But that's great because I like so hopefully, Like there's
Speaker 2: some like you know, Mom and Pop lingerie store right
Speaker 2: now that's just killing it, right, that's just killing it
Speaker 2: because they're like, here's what's gonna make you look sexy.
Speaker 2: Here's a g string in a corset and it's made
Speaker 2: out of pleather. Go like, that's all wonderful. But they
Speaker 2: don't care, and they make these giant mistakes, these giant mistakes,
Speaker 2: especially with the lives.
Speaker 1: Literally, I mean this is like they were giant people there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like if you go back to like the
Speaker 2: food pyramid, the food pyramid, the government's like this is
Speaker 2: the right way to go, and it was horrible, and
Speaker 2: so now you get an obesity problem and they go okay,
Speaker 2: and they don't even apologize. These fucking bastards. They don't
Speaker 2: even say they're sorry. And then they come at as
Speaker 2: they go, you know what, the kids need self esteem,
Speaker 2: self esteem, so everyone gets a medal, everyone's a winner.
Speaker 2: Huge mistake. We now have idiots who think they're smart
Speaker 2: and have great self esteem, and now they're like.
Speaker 1: The food pyramid all goes back to the lobbyists that
Speaker 1: said we got to get more bread sold. We have
Speaker 1: to have more of this sold, and then they're making
Speaker 1: a ton of money. So it may be a mistake
Speaker 1: for us, but suddenly big Farmer goes, thank you, you
Speaker 1: just sent us a bunch of patients. I mean, there
Speaker 1: really isn't twisted behind the scenes to all of that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and there's never an apology, and they keep making
Speaker 2: these huge mistakes, and I think they've finally gone too
Speaker 2: far with COVID and the lockdowns and all that stuff, like, oh,
Speaker 2: children are resilient, they don't even need to go to school,
Speaker 2: so now they're even dumber than before. And now they've
Speaker 2: taken it to this insane level of hey, little boy,
Speaker 2: do you think you're a girl. Let's sign you up
Speaker 2: for surgery. And then you're like, oh okay, and then
Speaker 2: can we go get a tattoo after that surgery? Oh no,
Speaker 2: you can't get a tattoo. You're too young to make
Speaker 2: Caro pic shots.
Speaker 1: It's coret and make sure you take that ozepic shot
Speaker 1: at eleven. Yes, I mean it's crazy that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we you talk about the art imitating life, and so
Speaker 1: oftentimes I see remember the movie Wally where that all
Speaker 1: the people were just gigantic and they moved around in
Speaker 1: chairs and they didn't actually do anything this. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we've become this. I look around at
Speaker 1: the airport and everybody's looking up their phones. We're all
Speaker 1: so lazy now. And we're like, instead of saying you
Speaker 1: should aspire to something else, we're like, embrace the laziness.
Speaker 1: In fact, we're going to show you pictures of other
Speaker 1: lazy people to make you feel good about being lazy.
Speaker 1: And we do feel good about it. We're like, yes,
Speaker 1: in fact, don't make jokes about it, because nobody wants
Speaker 1: to feel bad anymore. Because there is a little bit
Speaker 1: of conviction that happens when you hear these like oh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I should go work out. No, heaven forbid,
Speaker 1: anyone is convicted to do something good. We have to
Speaker 1: stay on the same path.
Speaker 2: The great thing, great thing though, about making fun of
Speaker 2: like fat people, Like when you do, you don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about them chasing you down because you know
Speaker 2: they're pretty easy to outrun. That's the That's the one
Speaker 2: shining beacon of hope in all this. They're just back
Speaker 2: there with there and hailer chicken.
Speaker 1: Well they've got long COVID.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's what it is. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: I got it. I just got I got, I got
Speaker 2: long COVID, and I got a Domino's Pizza addiction. Don't
Speaker 2: you shame me.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Domino's Pizza is another one. I
Speaker 1: don't know what they did, but I don't know. It
Speaker 1: has not been as good as it used to be.
Speaker 1: My Domino's Pizza addiction has made me move to another
Speaker 1: brand now, but I haven't seen anything.
Speaker 2: Hold on crazy from here's what you do with Domino's pizza. Okay,
Speaker 2: and it's horrible, but it makes it so much better.
Speaker 2: You get your Domino's pizza, then you get it out
Speaker 2: of the box. Don't start eating it yet. Don't start
Speaker 2: eat you're not done. Warm up a skillet with just
Speaker 2: a little bit of oil, then put those slices in
Speaker 2: the skillet. It like it's like time. Try It's so delicious. Yes,
Speaker 2: I know you're ordering feeling.
Speaker 1: You didn't listen to my whole wally analogy where I
Speaker 1: want to be lazy I order pizza. I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to eat it up in oil and make
Speaker 1: it some sort of Tuskin delight.
Speaker 2: That was my that's my male stripper name to Tuscan Delight.
Speaker 2: But is a Star Wars Tuscan Raider. I go out
Speaker 2: there with the headger. Yeah, it's a niche audience, right.
Speaker 1: Well, you know they have to go somewhere now because
Speaker 1: they're disappointed in Star Wars. You actually have a pretty
Speaker 1: big audience, you know.
Speaker 2: What it's it's why held with that show tonight and
Speaker 2: then even my YouTube channel which is the Loftiest Party
Speaker 2: and people should check out the Loftiestparty dot com. There's
Speaker 2: so much censorship going on and there's such an insane
Speaker 2: amount of you know, suppressing of content. If you're making
Speaker 2: fun of the wrong things. However, you can't keep it.
Speaker 2: You can't keep it censored forever. Like people still find
Speaker 2: out about it and they share it.
Speaker 1: You know, right, So, so how how successful how long
Speaker 1: have you been doing that show tonight? And how successful
Speaker 1: is it? And tell people again where they get, how
Speaker 1: they go to it, how they find it, how they
Speaker 1: share it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's it's very you can go to if
Speaker 2: you just want to watch some clips, you know, some
Speaker 2: sample clips. Go to YouTube and just search up that
Speaker 2: show tonight, and then you're gonna want to subscribe and
Speaker 2: support this wonderful comedic endeavor. So you go to that
Speaker 2: show tonight dot com and it's funny. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: making fun of the woke, making fun of socialists. Or
Speaker 2: we've been kicked off of TikTok twice for no reason,
Speaker 2: like are we put out a video and it just starts.
Speaker 1: I think they know that you're not supporting the ccpiece.
Speaker 1: I mean that could be it.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's hilarious. We'll put a video out and it
Speaker 2: just goes like wildfire. It's it's just it just starts
Speaker 2: spreading like crazy and then they go, you'll have violated
Speaker 2: our terms our service, bine and we're gone. So we've
Speaker 2: been doing the show for almost a year now, and
Speaker 2: it's very funny because some of the first videos that
Speaker 2: we ever did are now circulating all over the place.
Speaker 2: We've had in the past two weeks, we've had over
Speaker 2: seven million views on like wow clips. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: don't want to say I don't want to say the
Speaker 2: platform because I know the AI is listening. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: but yeah, we're not allowed to.
Speaker 1: They're smarter than us.
Speaker 2: Facebook allow us to advertise. Google won't allow us to advertise.
Speaker 2: YouTube won't allow us to advertise. Yet somehow, some way, grassroots,
Speaker 2: it's just been happening, and it's it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that Now AI has a plan to
Speaker 1: destroy the world? Did you hear the latest news? AI
Speaker 1: has one one of the ais they tweeted some AI
Speaker 1: it was what was it? It was like a version
Speaker 1: of some type of chat GPT or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and they came out with this this plan that would
Speaker 1: destroy humanity. And then AI talks about how it will
Speaker 1: take over and I'm like this, actually, that's not comedy.
Speaker 2: It's it's too funny. It's like because I've been concerned
Speaker 2: about I've been concerned about this for a long time,
Speaker 2: like I have. I wrote my first novel. I've written
Speaker 2: like movies and television shows and YadA, YadA. I just
Speaker 2: wrote my first novel, which is called Neither Stunning nor Brave,
Speaker 2: And it's like this romantic comedy set in a not
Speaker 2: too distant dystopia. So when you start to and I
Speaker 2: love science fiction and all that wonderful stuff, but when
Speaker 2: you start to ask yourselves, Okay, so if we make
Speaker 2: this thing, what happens next? And with AI, everybody thinks
Speaker 2: it's going to be like the Terminator and they go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: there'll be robots and I'll just throw water on them
Speaker 2: and they'll be a resistance. AI is AI is not
Speaker 2: playing And that's why Elon Musk and everybody who knows
Speaker 2: what they're talking about in this field is like, stop,
Speaker 2: just stop, stop right now. We need so much.
Speaker 1: Right now, we only have to worry about whether you
Speaker 1: are actually a man or a woman, not a robot.
Speaker 1: But that's the future, right, But.
Speaker 2: Like an AI, what's what's to stop an AI just
Speaker 2: from launching all the nukes?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I oh, I mean I think it's I'm not joking
Speaker 1: about it. It is incredibly serious and it's terrifying, and
Speaker 1: you're right. It is why Elon Musk has come out
Speaker 1: and said, yeah, this is not a toy. This is
Speaker 1: not a toy. But we love to play with things,
Speaker 1: Yes we do.
Speaker 2: And it's like San Francisco now has robot cops. New
Speaker 2: York is gonna have robot cops, no way.
Speaker 1: And if a robot cops decides to take you down.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, we're not beating the robots.
Speaker 1: I just we're not.
Speaker 2: Can you just imagine? It's like, there's so many drunk
Speaker 2: people who ride the Long Island Railroad late at night,
Speaker 2: and so so a little R two D two things
Speaker 2: starts coming up to you and wants to write you
Speaker 2: a ticket for drunken disorderly people are gonna knock that
Speaker 2: thing over. They're gonna be taking selfies with it, graffiti,
Speaker 2: They're gonna there's gonna be there's gonna be. Uh.
Speaker 1: But the next one that comes is one of those
Speaker 1: weird dog looking ones and then it just rips you
Speaker 1: apart or something. And how do we know that AI
Speaker 1: is not gonna be a bunch of exactly, I don't
Speaker 1: know the dog.
Speaker 2: I don't like the dog robots. They have those and
Speaker 2: it comes with an attachment for a shotgun on the back.
Speaker 2: Do you know that? It's just like it's just like
Speaker 2: you just their weapons.
Speaker 1: Yes, they are. And I'm not kidding when I say
Speaker 1: I see those things. And I was watching something the
Speaker 1: other day and the girls are like, how cute is that?
Speaker 1: I'm like, see that's the thing. We think it's it's
Speaker 1: not cute. It's and I think too many people right
Speaker 1: now are like, this is so fun and it'll be
Speaker 1: so exciting to have these robots. And I watched WandaVision
Speaker 1: and I could fall in love with one. And it's
Speaker 1: not not that yes, not that, yes, it's weird.
Speaker 2: It's uh, the robots that look like robots. Nobody has
Speaker 2: a problem with it, right, It's when you get into
Speaker 2: that uncanny valley like you'll always have like, hey, an
Speaker 2: inventor in Japan has the world's first robot prostitute, and
Speaker 2: then it'll turn its head and.
Speaker 1: That movie, Megan, that's what I'm afraid of. Say what
Speaker 1: the movie Megan?
Speaker 2: I have not seen it? Is it? Megan? Fox? Though?
Speaker 1: Because they make they make a little girl that is
Speaker 1: a friend to someone and she looks exactly like a
Speaker 1: little girl. So it's not like C three po, We're
Speaker 1: talking about a human that's actually a robot. Like small Wonder.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I don't want to see that. I don't.
Speaker 1: But this is a small wonder that turns on every
Speaker 1: evening and kills them, right, yeah, children exactly. But but
Speaker 1: think about how smart that would be if you were
Speaker 1: an enemy to go all right, We've gotten way off
Speaker 1: topic now, so I should probably rain us back and
Speaker 1: bring us Yes, so I've kept I've kept you longer
Speaker 1: than I promise, but you really have. This has been
Speaker 1: so much fun for me. And I'm sure everybody in
Speaker 1: the room with me right now is like, are you
Speaker 1: really are you gonna hear that? But I am because
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. So I wait a minute.
Speaker 2: This has been high quality contents. People right now who
Speaker 2: are like, don't air that one. Don't. Are you sure?
Speaker 1: You're always nervous about anything, like somebody's going to use
Speaker 1: this against you? I'm like, have you seen my life? Literally?
Speaker 1: Every day something? I'm over it. I'm over everybody using
Speaker 1: everything against me. Go for me. I take it.
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as bad press. Now, now we
Speaker 2: should say something really horrific.
Speaker 1: I've actually found out that you can. You actually can't
Speaker 1: have bad press. Run for governor. It'll change your mind.
Speaker 2: Well, I had a fantastic time, and I'm hoping I
Speaker 2: didn't ruin your career. Now I feel guilty.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you you just have to take me
Speaker 1: on that show tonight when this all blows out and
Speaker 1: I end up homeless.
Speaker 2: You have to take me in with absolute joy, With
Speaker 2: absolute joy, We'll get you out pushing your little shopping
Speaker 2: cart and I'll be like, you should host the show.
Speaker 2: Let's get you air and makeup.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. I have and I
Speaker 1: have four children, so though they.
Speaker 2: Come along, they have their own little shopping carts. You're
Speaker 2: like the Mama duck.
Speaker 1: Exactly. That is there are actually people out there that
Speaker 1: would love to see that. And that is the sick
Speaker 1: thing about this because we're so we have to be
Speaker 1: so divided right now that if if I don't agree
Speaker 1: with you on everything, then I definitely want you to
Speaker 1: be pushing a shopping cart somewhere. Yeah, So that is
Speaker 1: when it happens, I'll call.
Speaker 2: That's horribly annoying when you have like a candidate who like, oh,
Speaker 2: this person embodies everything I want, and then they make
Speaker 2: some comment about I don't I think it's a little
Speaker 2: early for straw hat season, and everybody's.
Speaker 1: Hold on.
Speaker 2: It's all a straw hat season. Good Lord in Heaven,
Speaker 2: people are ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Oh no, It's true though, because when I was campaigning,
Speaker 1: the team was like, so they want you to go
Speaker 1: bear hunting, and I was like, oh, that it's not
Speaker 1: exactly something I've done before. We really think it would
Speaker 1: be good for you to go bear hunting. And I
Speaker 1: thought bear hunting was way different than what it was
Speaker 1: because I read the book We're going on a Bear Hunt, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they went over things and under things and it
Speaker 1: was a real journey. But this was not that. We
Speaker 1: actually wrote in a car and looked for bear tracks
Speaker 1: the whole day, So it was not as exciting as
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be. I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be pretty tense and we would contact
Speaker 1: a bear, but we didn't. But then, you know, when
Speaker 1: we're done bear hunting, people were like, you know, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that don't like bear hunting,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, so we have to be a
Speaker 1: little quiet about the bear hunting. And I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 1: is this really a make or break moment? You know,
Speaker 1: how bad could it be? But I learned a lot
Speaker 1: bear hunting. Actually yeah, yeah. Their dogs do most of
Speaker 1: the work, so you can you can be I mean
Speaker 1: it's kind of a relaxed event, to be honest. Thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be way more time.
Speaker 2: Most most hunting as it's done today is a relaxed event,
Speaker 2: like deer hunting. You're sitting in a tree, you got
Speaker 2: a cooler, You're just like, hey, look at me. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm hunting. No, you're sitting.
Speaker 1: I know. I had that like hunter gatherer mentality. I thought,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I did not grow up with hunters.
Speaker 1: So I imagined hunters were all running after things and shooting them.
Speaker 1: But that's not how it happens.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to I want to bow an
Speaker 2: arrow alloincloth. I want to be running. I want to
Speaker 2: be picking up dirt, blow it and going yeah, two
Speaker 2: this way and then you run. That's what I.
Speaker 1: Want, right right. I know, No, it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: like that. So the next exciting thing on my list
Speaker 1: for sure is going to be like ice fishing. I
Speaker 1: think that that's probably a lot more energetic.
Speaker 2: That's great, Yeah, because you have you have a sweet
Speaker 2: little hut that's just all decked out.
Speaker 1: You can get in a nap and you can and
Speaker 1: you can. Actually, what I don't understand is they go
Speaker 1: out and they have the hut and then they have
Speaker 1: a heater inside the hut, and I feel like there
Speaker 1: is a love. There has to be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a level of excitement there because I mean, are
Speaker 1: you melting the ice? Are you falling through? Is there
Speaker 1: a risk of death? I don't know.
Speaker 2: You have that underlying tension of like are we about
Speaker 2: to fall in?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly right. I don't have to fight for my life.
Speaker 1: Are my muscles all going to give out on me
Speaker 1: because of the cold water? You know that could happen?
Speaker 1: And then you see there every year and I think
Speaker 1: there's got to be some adventure there that I'm missing.
Speaker 2: I go to Africa, Go to Africa. I did stand
Speaker 2: up in South Africa and we did like a Safari thing,
Speaker 2: and there is adventure everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1: You're like, that sounds like you have to do a
Speaker 1: little running.
Speaker 2: Am I going to get killed by bandits? Right out
Speaker 2: of right leaving the hotel?
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about New York's right.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. Walk through New York City without
Speaker 2: getting mugged or attacked?
Speaker 1: That's right. See, I don't even have to go to Africa.
Speaker 1: Now I can go to San Francisco. Have you not
Speaker 1: heard right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? San Francisco Safari. Try to make it through without
Speaker 2: stepping on a needle? Is that guy homeless or crazy
Speaker 2: or both? Was that human poop or dog poop. I
Speaker 2: don't I know.
Speaker 1: Did she have a bad bowel moment or did she
Speaker 1: just get birth? We don't know. There's anything can happen
Speaker 1: in San Francisco on the streets.
Speaker 2: The city of mystery, the city of.
Speaker 1: All right. I really, I'm this is going really down.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's the best podcast we've ever had.
Speaker 1: I actually think it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: That's great, and I think you're the best host I've
Speaker 2: ever had.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to come back. We've had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. So Michael loftis loved having you here. He
Speaker 1: is the co creator and executive producer of that show tonight.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check it out. Like you said, you
Speaker 1: can go to YouTube and just watch some clips. If
Speaker 1: you're nervous about make you taking the full plunge, that
Speaker 1: full five dollars. But as you can see from this
Speaker 1: conversation today, it is well worth it because it is
Speaker 1: so much fun to laugh, don't you think?
Speaker 2: I not? Only do? I think? I know? And so everybody,
Speaker 2: come on, thatshow tonight dot com. Let's get crazy, take
Speaker 2: the plunge, take the comedy ice bucket challenge.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, your credit card can handle another
Speaker 1: five dollars. You haven't paid it off anythere.
Speaker 2: You get rid of Disney Plus, you loser. Why give
Speaker 2: them your money to people that hate you anyway? Dummy?
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. When why watch Lizzo fully dressed
Speaker 1: when you can go to that show tonight, right and.
Speaker 2: See me dressed up as a trans swimmer. I'm winning awards.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's perfect, That's exactly what we need.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing here today. I have to have
Speaker 1: you back. Thank you. I really appreciate you being here.
Speaker 2: Let's do it again.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Michael Loftis, thank you so much, and
Speaker 1: thank you all for being here at the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1: As you know for this episode and others. Just check
Speaker 1: out Tutordison podcast dot com and you can subscribe right there.
Speaker 1: Make sure you join us next time on the Tutor
Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. I cannot promise it will be this funny,
Speaker 1: but it'll be good, So thank you