1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lalli. He is Matt Williamson, 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: ESPN nine seventy where you get the wall to wall 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: coverage of Steelers training camp here at Saint Vincent College 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: of Steelers wrapping up their number six practice of the 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: session here and that was a padded practice or second one. 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: They'll be padded all this week and then we'll see 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: what happens next week that you. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Stuck gearing down a little bit. 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Yes, as the first that first game comes along, they 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: will be down at Tampa Bay. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: And I mentioned Tampa Bay because. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm reading a Bill Barnwell piece here on ESPN dot 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: com and he ranks the fourteen teams that made last 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: year's playoff field from fourteen to one in terms of 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: their ability to return to the postseason, and at number 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: fourteen are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They have no shot 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: at making the playoffs issue. 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: And the only thing going for him is they're in 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: a terrible division. Like but I wouldn't even give him 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: a twenty five percent chance to win that division. 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: I give him a better chance of finishing a last 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: winning but they weren't that good close. 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: They weren't that good last year, right the division or 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: made I think they're last in that division too. I 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: bet Carolina is better than they are. I would be 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: willing to bet that. 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: His reason why they're number fourteen they're starting Baker Mayfield 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: or Kyle Trask at quarterback. 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: That's a great, great reason to put him at fourteen. 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: They got like seventy million in dead money. They might 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: be thirtieth in the in the league. Yeah, they're a 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: bottom five team. 34 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, at number thirteen, the New York Giants, And his 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: reason why they're number thirteen is their formula isn't sustainable. 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: What is it? What's he mean by that? They won 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: nine games last season. 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Two of those came against playoff teams, a four point 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: victory over the Ravens and a six point win over 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and consecutive weeks both required fourth quarter comebacks, 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: something that was a constant in New York's games. 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: They thrived into fourth They were below average. 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: By win EXPECTANCYE in quarters one through three, and then 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: the second best team in football by the same metric 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point. They walked the edge 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: a lot. They walked the edge a lot, and they 48 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: pulled themselves out at the end. Yeah, fell on fell 49 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: into the good side of it a lot. But the 50 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: Vikings were the poster boys of that. They had all 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: these fourth quarter comebacks. So I'm sure we'll get to that. 52 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: At one point one score wins, I mean, at best, 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: the Giants are the third best team in their division, right, 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: but the NFC soft, I mean, they could be the 55 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: seventh you know, they could be the seventh wildcard team 56 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: at number twelve? Are those Vikings you see? I sets 57 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: a trend here. Yeah, and their formula is unbelievably unstateable. 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: Why their number twelve? They weren't very good. They weren't 59 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: a very good team. In twenty twenty two, No FPI 60 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: ranked them as the sixteenth best team in football. Football 61 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Siders was even more dramatic, ranking it as the twenty 62 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: seventh best team. 63 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Twenty seventh team football. And they won thirteen games. That's nuts. 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: And they're much work. They're much closer to five hunder 65 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: team and they are a thirteen win team. Lost more 66 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: this offseason than they've gained, especially in the defense. Is 67 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: pretty rough. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty rough. I mean, 68 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: but who wins that division? I mean most in Detroit. 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: I think Green Bay is a better chance. In Minnesota. 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not in on Chicago. Yeah, I'm not there either. 71 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but three straight NFC teams to start this exercise off. 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: Which is odd because it's easier there. Yeah, you would think, 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I don't think the Rams 74 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: are going on. The Cardinals are going right at number eleven. 75 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins, boy at division's rough schedules are rough. 76 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: AFC's are rough. Why they're number eleven? Questions about their health? 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: Oh by that? Yeah, they're not a very deep team 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: and they already lost. 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Ramsey shop has not been a guy who's been no, 80 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, goes out and plays every game. 81 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: Two was the big one. Sure, Yeah, I mean they've 82 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: got some. But as good as their offense is, what 83 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: if Tyreek or Waddall missed a game? Yeah, you know, 84 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: like there's no third receiver, there's no tight end. You know, 85 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: like the running backs aren't special. No, I agree with that. Yeah, 86 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: number ten, I might give the Vikes a better chance 87 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: to go than the Dolphins. I might too, Yeah, just 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: because of my vision that they right right right. 89 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Number ten is the Baltimore Ravens and why they're number ten, 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: change breeds uncertainty smart, I say, yah, yeah, everybody's. 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: Assuming that Todd Monkin is going to be an upgrade, 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: be an upgrade over Greg Roman. Maybe they try this 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: and it doesn't work. It could be. I don't like 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: their defense that much, especially up front, and just like 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: the Jets, really tough division, really tough conference. You stumble 96 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: your toe for a month or so, then you're really 97 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: gonna be up against it. It's just brutal competition. 98 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a reason why they went away 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: from the offense that they you know, do a more 100 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: pass friendly offense when they put Lamar in. 101 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe they should just keep doing what he 102 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: does best. And maybe they will. I don't know. That's 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: what we just don't know it is. And like you said, 104 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: it's uncertain. Yeah, I think was the word to use. 105 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: And again one with you. I don't think their defense 106 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: is as good as it has been. 107 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: No, I mean it might be the fourth best defense 108 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: in the in the division. It might be. Yeah, yeah, 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: you're right. 110 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Number nine the Los Angeles Chargers. The reason why they're 111 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: number nine they're returning to health. You wouldn't think that 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: would be the situation here. But they've got a bunch 113 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: of guys who are coming back off of major injuries 114 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: last year Later Slater Jackson, Keenan Allen, and Mike Williams. 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: Right. Uh, these guys are all getting old. Herbert was 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: not one hundred or for much of the year. You know, 117 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: most of those guys are. You know, j C. 118 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Jackson has been around a while, Keenan Allen been around 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: a while. Mike Evans is older than I think. You know, 120 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: people think Bosa's getting up in age. 121 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's expensive too. Yeah, but that's a side note. 122 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: I like the Chargers chances better than the Ravens or Dolphins. Yeah, 123 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: I think they are better team on paper if they 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: can stay healthy. Yeah, that's the key point there. And 125 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: then they get to play the Raiders and Broncos twice 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: as opposed to Steelers, Browns, Patriots. You know, number eight, 127 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. I'm fine with that. Yeah, and I 128 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: think I'll pick them as a division as a as 129 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: a playoff team. You know, I don't think they're the 130 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: number two in that division. They're number two in that division, 131 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: but they're fifth in the conference or something like that. 132 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: That's just why they're number eight. Have you seen the NFC? 133 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, now you're starting to get into these 134 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: these top eight or nineteen, you know, the top teams 135 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: here are teams that. 136 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: They have a better shot there. Yeah, there's gonna be 137 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: positive statements about them. Not why they'll be out, but 138 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: why they'll be in Jacksonville. Why they're number seven. It's 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: probably a two team race in the AFC South. Let 140 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: me know which two teams. Who's the second thing? Not 141 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: Tennessee for me, he says, you know, the Colts and 142 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: the Texans. Maybe Wells, who knows. They haven't done it yet. 143 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm not predicting this, but I heard someone reference it 144 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: that are the Jags the next Bengals in that first 145 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: overall quarterback? Now they got the coach starting to hit 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: their stride. Could they be a twelve thirteen win team 147 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: for the next three or four years in that division? Yeah, 148 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: I kind of think they could be. Right. I could 149 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: paint a picture where they go six and zero in 150 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: a division. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, you only need 151 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: to win, you know, five games up beyond that to 152 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: get division. They're going to playoffs right at number six. 153 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: The Bengals. 154 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: Why they're number six, The AFC North is hotter than 155 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: it seems. 156 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Barnball's a Steeler believer. I 157 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: think he's a Browns believer. That's why the Ravens were 158 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: quite as low as they were. Yeah, and their quarterbacks 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: a little up in the air at the moment, right. 160 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: You know. It's also, as he mentions here, a transition 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: year in their secondary Yeah, the defense as a hole 162 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: seeing a slow change of what they're doing. Yeah. 163 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 1: At number five, the forty nine ers. Why they're number 164 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: five is they also might have been the league's best 165 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: team for most of last season, but they weren't. You know, 166 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation is still. 167 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: The old line scares me too, and the old line 168 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: is much worse than it was ere Yeah, I mean 169 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: I think Trent Williams the best line in the league. 170 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I think he's thirty eight and there's four slappies next 171 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: to him, right right, right, Yeah, So I heard this 172 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the other day. 173 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: If you look at the Shanahan Dolphin offense, they get 174 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: quarterbacks hurt. Yeah, I mean, I think collectively they used 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: eight quarterbacks. 176 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of misdirection and things of that, and 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: you're leaving your quarterback on an island, right. 178 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: I mean they both have star left tackles that they 179 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: leave alone all the time, and they put five guys 180 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: out in routes all the time. Maybe it's not Tua's 181 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: injury prone and you know these are Jimmy g Maybe 182 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: you're just getting them killed, right, Yeah, you know what 183 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: I mean, they get boots and stuff. The quarterbacks are 184 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: gonna get hit. Yeah. I think they used eight quarterbacks 185 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: between those two teams last year. 186 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Number four is the Bills. Why they're number four. They 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: might have been the league's best team last season. 188 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they might have been. Don't divisions far more? I 189 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: mean I think I'll pick them to win the division probably, 190 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: you know, but we'll have those coming up here in 191 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks. I might have them lower 192 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: on the list just because division is tough, tough road, 193 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: right right, Not that I think they're a lesser team 194 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: than maybe the Ravens. I don't think they're probably a 195 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: playoff team though, in. 196 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: The so I would imagine top seven. Yeah, you know, 197 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: number three. The Dallas Cowboys agreed. Why they're number three. 198 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: They have a high floor. 199 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: So the football Outsiders book is coming out soon, like 200 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: later this week or whatever, and I heard Aaron Shottz 201 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: talking about it. It's on Football Siders anymore. But anyway, 202 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: he said, the Cowboys. We're so in on the Cowboys. 203 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: I can hardly believe it. You know, all the metrics 204 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: and stuff. And that's where Barney, I've heard this on 205 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: hundred times though about them. I think the owner ship 206 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: medals and causes problems. Yeah. 207 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: I also think, well, Mike McCarthy going back to calling 208 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: the plays, I don't know is a great idea. 209 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: I don't either, But I like the football. I like 210 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: the roster. 211 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, number two, the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, why they're number two? 212 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: It's a long way from the top. 213 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: Well, the Chiefs have to be one, of course, we 214 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: know that. And the Chiefs win their division every year. 215 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: They win five or six games in their division every year. 216 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: But I might have the Eagles one just because the 217 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: NFC is easier. But what if Mahome stubs a toe, 218 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, if Hurts hurts. I 219 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: don't think Mariota is any good, to be honest with you, 220 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: But if Hurts misses two months, I think they're still 221 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: a playoff team because the NFC's right, they're just not 222 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: as reliant on two guys. Three guys Chris Jones, Kelsey 223 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: Mahome Chris Jones still don't re signed yet, by the way, 224 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: I know, still not in camp. But if they lose 225 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: one of them for the year, they're not number one anymore. 226 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: You know, lose one for a couple months, and number 227 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: one is the Chiefs. And the reason why they're number 228 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: one is they're the Chiefs there. I mean, they've they've 229 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: gotten the point where they're like the Patriots of you know, yeah, 230 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: last generation. I mean, how do you fight the consistency? 231 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: You can't looking at this so that you know there 232 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: are three NFC teams at the bottom of this, right. 233 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: As you said, New York, Tampa's last. 234 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: As I mentioned last week in one of the shows, 235 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: three in the last four years, there have been seven 236 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: new teams in the playoffs. 237 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: Right. 238 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: The year that there weren't seven, there were five, right, 239 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: So recent history, recent history tells you that there's probably 240 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: at least six teams that are new in the playoffs 241 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: this year. 242 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: You're not all going to be in the NFC. It's 243 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: usually like forty yeah, something like that. Well, the last 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: last year was fifty two years ago. You know, the 245 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: year before that it was over fifty percent. So half 246 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: of the teams we just mentioned, we're saying, I don't know, 247 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: six of the teams we mentioned aren't gonna make it, right, 248 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: Tampa's easy Giants. Nobody would be shocked. I mean the 249 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: ones the bottom aren't shocking. But one of the I 250 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: mean two in the top five or two in the 251 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: top six probably won't. 252 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: Go, or you know, a couple of those top ten 253 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: teams aren't gonna go. You know, that's just the reality 254 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: of how the NFL goes. 255 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I'm trying to think. I think what I what. 256 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: I remember reading in that stat pack is I think 257 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: every year since two thousand there's been at least five 258 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: new teams in the playoffs. 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Not surprising, right, I mean, like no one's on the 260 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: Giants coming out of the field has expanded, so that 261 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: you've added two more teams to it to give you 262 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: two more potential. That won't make it real quick. I 263 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: just want to do this super fast, so go from 264 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: fourteen up one year ago. No would't have been shocked 265 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: that the Tampa Bay Box went to the playoffs. They 266 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: still would Brady. They were right right now? Okay, so 267 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: team ahead of them. Nobody thought that. 268 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: Nobody thought the Giants were a playoffs right. The Vikings, 269 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: well they were. 270 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: They were an eight and eight ish maybe, you know, maybe, 271 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: but Aaron Rodgers was in that division. Most people in 272 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: the Packers, the Dolphins, they were kind of mediocre to 273 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: I'd say, But this time made the trade for two 274 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: like they had gone all in, went for Tyreek. Yeah right, Tyreek, 275 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Okay. Ten was Baltimore, they're always in it. 276 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, eleven, I'm sorry. Nine was the Chargers. People thought 277 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: they were picked. 278 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were high picked. That was not shocking, although 279 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people were picking Denver who didn't. 280 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: Go Seattle wasn't No, there was nothing expected from Seattle. 281 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: I was wrong. I thought they were a better chance 282 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: of getting a top five pick. Drew Locke might have 283 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: been starting at this point last year. 284 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: A year ago, at this time, Jacksonville was coming off 285 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: and having back miserable back to back first pick overall picks, and. 286 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: Tennessee looked like a much better team than Jacksonville. At 287 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: this point last year, the Bengals were the Bengals, sure 288 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: the top the top five Niners, Bill Bills and the 289 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: picks that, yeah, Eagles weren't as certain as you know, 290 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: it's easy to say we were picking them to win 291 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: the division. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Dallas was pretty good. 292 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: But so maybe that wasn't the best example. But most 293 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: given years, if you remember what the narrative was one 294 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: year before, things change ridiculously quickly. 295 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: You know they're up and fast in the NFL. We're 296 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am 297 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. We are alive from Steelers' training camp here 298 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: on the campus of Saint Vincent College, where the Steelers 299 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: wrapped up their sixth training camp practice a little bit ago. Guys, 300 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: we're down working on the field now, fixing things back up. 301 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: They do an excellent job, they really do. They put 302 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: a lot of time and effort into it. They really do. 303 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, just going through it like with a fine tooth 304 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: comb here, making sure every little divid is is in 305 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: good shaping. Yes, they don't want to have an injury 306 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: out there a lot of real estate to do that. 307 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: Well. Absolutely, two fields that really three fields that. 308 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: They use yourself, good work by them. We're gonna take 309 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: a break. We'll be back to finish up the show. 310 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Right after this, let's go play some ball. 311 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: Always talking Black and Gold Football on SNR. Welcome back. 312 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolli. 313 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson, and we're here to wrap up 314 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the day six of the Steelers training camp practices here 315 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: at Saint Vincent College or of course listening to us 316 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: here on ESPN nine seventy and Steelers Nation Radio. And 317 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: of course we have shows of Wal to Wall daily, 318 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: starting off at eight am with Tom Opperman and Bob 319 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: Labriola giving you the wrap up, then followed by Craig 320 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Wolfley and Max Starks from nine until noon. 321 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: That's followed by our good friend Wes Yuler, Oh yeah, 322 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: none with the Power hour, and then you turn it 323 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: over to Wes and Arthur Motes from one to three o'clock, 324 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: and then of course we finish up the day here 325 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: from three to six. There's also night shows. 326 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: Going on out here every night that the team practices 327 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: as well, So lots of going on out here at 328 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Steelers training camp practice. Of course, the Steelers making a 329 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: couple of signings today. They signed safety Trent and Thompson 330 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: and cornerback Isaiah Dunn and placed rookie cornerback Corey Trice Junior, 331 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: the seventh round draft pick, goes onto a reserve injured list. 332 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: He was injured in practice on Tuesday with Mike Tomlins 333 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: said that was a serious knee injury, and then they 334 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: also waved injured running back Alfonso Graham. 335 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: The secondary was getting a little thin. Yeah, I don't 336 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: know anything about the two guys they signed, but we'll 337 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: see what they're gonna get. An opportunity safety and corner 338 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: little thin right now. 339 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: Thompson played at San Diego State. He was with the 340 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Giants as an undrafted rookie last year. He spent most 341 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two season on the Giants practice squad, 342 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: playing in one game. 343 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: Fifty seven career games at San Diego State. Wow, that's 344 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: a lot to go off. Yeah, starting thirty one. Is 345 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: he the safety of the corner? He was the safety, 346 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: So we'll see. Yeah. Done. Is from Morgan State. 347 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: He signed with the Jets as an undrafted rookie following 348 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one draft. He played in twelve games 349 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: for the Jets. Also spent time with the Seahawks. He 350 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: dressed five games for them before an injury ended his 351 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season. 352 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: So I wonder with him again, I don't know anying 353 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: about him. I just know how this works. You said 354 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: he played in twelve games with the Jets. You would 355 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: think you'd be in a camp by now, but his 356 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: he was in and got injured. So maybe you're getting 357 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: a better commodity there just because he's finally healthy. Wasn't 358 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: healthy until last week or whatever. Yeah, so we'll see, 359 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: they'll get it. They'll get an opportunity here. Man. 360 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: It's early, early enough in camp where guys who come 361 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: in at this point so they'll look, yeah, still have 362 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: a chance to get. 363 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: A good solid look. 364 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: And so those guys that you know, they start adding 365 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: guys if they have an injury in this second preseason game, 366 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: right right, And those are guys that usually have been 367 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: kicking around somebody else's camp and they get released. 368 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: And I mean, who knows what will happen between now 369 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: and that kickoff, but I would bet both those players 370 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: play in the preseason for play and half. 371 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: They signed the two running backs Greg Bell and John Lovett, 372 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: uh yesterday and they were immediately in there on on 373 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: set on the backs on backers. 374 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there's into it. There's not, nor should you 375 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: be if those guys like I was, won every opportunity 376 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: I can. Like I said, it's such a brutal business. 377 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 2: If you're those players, you know it's tough to get 378 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: a shot. It really is helped us hardening, is it? 379 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: When you know, all the camps open and you don't 380 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: have a spot. Oh, it's gonna be awful. And then 381 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: week goes by and phone rang at least so the. 382 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: Phones ring it. You know, teams are probably checking on 383 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: all you're available. 384 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: Hey, what's it? What's your situation that your agent's getting calls? Yeah, 385 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: it's just when's it gonna happen? When's it gonna happen? 386 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: A big thing? And then unfortunately someone will sign Dalvin 387 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: Cook and that guy gets somebody else, you know what 388 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: I mean, right. 389 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of surprised that, like guys like Ezekiel Elliott, 390 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook haven't signed yet. 391 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: A little fournette to another one. Yeah, some veteran backs 392 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: out there. Kareem Hunt still hasn't. Yeah, he's out there. 393 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone will. I mean, the Chiefs 394 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: used to take some liberties with guys that have off 395 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: the field stuff. The Browns absolutely do. And now he's 396 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: gotten older and isn't quite what he used to be. 397 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: His ship I had some issues then with while he 398 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: was there too, right, I say his ship may have sailed, 399 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: you know, like I've been calling Zeke or Fournette or 400 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: certainly Cook before him. Yeah, I mean, how would you 401 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: rank those guys? Cooks a distant one, But I don't 402 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: think he's what he used to be four nets two. Yeah, 403 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: I think I think Zeke's got very little left, to 404 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: be honest with you. I think he'll be a goal 405 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: line back, good locker room guy because of who they 406 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: the people are. Yeah. Yeah, Zeke's a really good teammates, 407 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: you know, Mentor and Hunt might be a fine person. 408 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's got in trouble. I mean 409 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: several times, several times. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so a 410 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: lot of owners are gonna be like no, and I 411 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: get that, Yeah, absolutely, But he certainly enough strikes working 412 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: against him. 413 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: Matt's final takeaways from practice today. 414 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: I almost interrupted you, as I often do. You know 415 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: this is the sixth practice. Part of me thinks we 416 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: just got here. Part of me is like I feel 417 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: like I've been here a month. Imagine if you're the players. Yeah, right, exactly, 418 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: Like I mean, maybe a cup of coffee at the dinner, 419 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: them playing on, I'll be like, oh, I feel like 420 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: I just got here. Let's go. I'm ready to do it. 421 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: After a third hour radio, it's like, man, like we've 422 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: been here a while. I'm pretty beating up, you know, 423 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: and I'm not doing anything. I'm sitting there in air 424 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: conditioning watching guys tend the field. Yeah, but I'm sure 425 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 2: the players are having a lot of the same thoughts. 426 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I talked to I mentioned that the 427 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: Broderck Jones today and I said, hey, how's you know 428 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: you're taking first team reps? 429 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: Some you're taking all the second team reps. Sure you 430 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: guys stay after root guys by the coach, weren't anyone. 431 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys stay after practice every day and 432 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: work as a group as the offensive lineman. 433 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: You know, you got walkthroughs in the morning. You got 434 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: all this stuff going on. I'm sure they still lift 435 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: when they're here some of that stuff. Right, Are you 436 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: feeling this yet? He goes, well, ask me next week. Okay, 437 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: we just got in there, we just started hitting. Yeah, 438 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: I guess that has something to do with it too. 439 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: You had a little bit of a long weekend and 440 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: now you're actually hitting and how I got to stop 441 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: this Highsmith dude is pretty good, you know, right right? 442 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: So my teammates, Yeah, and that's when you start seeing 443 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: I start getting a little tired of each other. Like 444 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of a scrimmish, a little 445 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: bit in the field to there today, nothing major? Do 446 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: you see the the Kevin Stefanski the Browns were training 447 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: down in West Virginia and they had a bunch of 448 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: fights and Kevin Stefanski made the whole team. 449 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: Run really yeah, punishment, Okay, I don't know how to 450 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: take that. I mean, I guess you'd have to be there. 451 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: Do you do you like the aggression or are they 452 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: just not doing what you're told? Right? 453 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure he said several today, guys, let's 454 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: knock it off. And it keeps happening, and it keeps happening, Like, 455 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: guys aren't listening. 456 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: Here, and maybe you're not getting better because of it. 457 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: You know, you're letting your emotions get in the way 458 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: and you're not you know, doing your assignments. You're not 459 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: listening to coaching all your works or distractions that you 460 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: don't need. Yeah, right right, and then they all go 461 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: to the cafeteria and if you're yellowing each other there 462 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: and stuff, I mean, like you hope that's everyone just 463 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: leaves on the field too. Yeah. Odd, odd, very odd. 464 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: But that's going to do it for our show today. 465 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: So for my partner Matt Williamson, uh. For Brian la 466 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: Martinez back in studio keeping us on the air as 467 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: he always does, I'm dale all. We appreciate you listening 468 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio 469 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: live from Steelers' training camp at Saint Vincent College. We'll 470 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: be back with you again tomorrow. Don't you miss that.