1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: It is a football Friday Week nine edition, playing in 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: primetime and perhaps playing with k One God, Zach Gershman, 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Wickenburg Gang. And yes, that is the plan. The Cardinals 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: are preparing for Kyler Murray to start at the Dallas 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys on Monday Night football, and his return might not 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: be the only return. Plus we head an enemy territory. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans with Dallascowboys dot Com joins the show at 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine one, and it starts now. 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: Buona Baker, What Heart? 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: What rent? 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five pays it again, 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic. 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Grioler. 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 3: First things first. 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Sec before I forget, Happy Halloween to you and the 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: rest of the bird gang. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Why are you not wearing a cop knew that was 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna come at some point, I mean it could I 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: could paint a picture here since this is audio only, 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: I like your costume that you are wearing. It's very nice. 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Would you like to tell everyone what you're wearing? 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: Right now? I'm dressed up as a sports reporter. 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, Darren Urban Is dressed up as a. 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: Sports copied me. Oh okay, but that's not what I 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: will be dressed up in later. Later, I will be 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: wearing an Elmo Onesie. 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let that hang so everyone can mentally 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: picture young Zach Gershman and a onesie. 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: I look I look like Big Red, but without the jersey. 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: It just I looked like a big Red. But no, 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: it's uh. I bought it two years ago my first 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: Halloween out here in Arizona. Wearing a onesie in October 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: is very in Arizona's very different than wearing a onesie 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: out in the East Coast in October. 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: This way, wearing a onesie as a twenty something year 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: old is a little different. 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: When it's Halloween, there are no rooms. 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: How are sure you're not just wearing like? Can I 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: ask you often when you're not around us? 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Well, no, that would be weird, And then you have 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: every right to critique me. I heard a rumor that 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: you might not be giving out candy. 49 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: Okay, a rumor? This is this is why you don't 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: believe everything you hear. 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: That's why I said it's a rumor. 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a fact. Is that the case I haven't 53 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: decided yet, you just stayed in it as fact? 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 3: No, I stated as a rumor. Okay, as I said, 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: I haven't decided, just like haven't made a lot of 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: decisions regarding a lot of their players. 57 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: We'll get into that. The the decision has to be made. 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Do you get candy that you like personally in case 59 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: there are leftovers and you just you know, keep the 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: leftovers as I get a big thumbs up from Cody 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: Fincher over there. Or is it you get candy that 62 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: you personally don't like and if they are leftovers, you 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: don't feel obligated to eat and then they just you know, 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: you can give more out depending on how many times 65 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the doorbell rings or there's a knock on the door. 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: Why are you over complicating this? It's candy, Throw it 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: in a bowl and let the kids be happy. Particular 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 3: about my no, why Craig, this is a little bit disappointed. 69 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: It's little bit telling about you right now because it 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: seems like Halloween right now is about Craig Greegloho, considering 71 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: Craig Greeho is not dressed up at the moment, and 72 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: you're thinking so much about Craig Grelo, not about the kids. 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: What about the kids? 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: About the kids who love it? Okay, what about the kids? 75 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: I'll say this as. 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: What about the future of America? They're trying to find 77 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: candy as you're like, well, what candy do I like? 78 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Do I win? As our daughter has gotten older, there 79 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: have been less kids coming around the neighborhood. So it's 80 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: not that I haven't thought about the kids. I have 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: thought about the kids. It's just that it's less frequent 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: kids coming to the door. 83 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: Okay, But if twenty four year old Zach Gershman in 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: a Onesie starts knocking on the door, you're gonna say like, oh, 85 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: there's an age restriction. 86 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Okay. If if Zach Gershman comes knocking on our door 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: on Halloween night in an Elmo Onesie, sorry, Zach, the 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: door is getting slammed shut. And I might even pick 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: up the phone and call the cops. I mean, you 90 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: would call cops before hr. Yeah, are you following me home? 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: Or is it just the fact that you perhaps live nearby. 92 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: Well, considering everything I believe in, this in this state 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: is on North Scottsdale Road. Uh, if it's not there, 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: I won't find it. 95 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Do not live near or around North Scottsdale Road, So 96 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: I think I definitely going either. So I think I'm 97 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: safe that you will not be coming knocking on my door. 98 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: Don't worry regardless. Why would I need to knock on 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 3: your door when you're already right here sharing the studio 100 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: with me. 101 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's get this show back on track. That 102 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: was just a That was a long on left hand 103 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: turn that just kept going and going. 104 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: All right, we could do much I got. 105 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: I got a mental picture that I need to get 106 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: out of my mind of Zach Gershman in a. 107 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: I have a photo from two years ago, so I 108 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: could always share, all right. 109 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Be a bigger question if you decide where the Elmo 110 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: onesie two Monday Night's game against the Dallas Cowboys. Since 111 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: you are headed to Dallas, not on Sunday with the team. 112 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: We'll get into the nuts and bolts of this matchup, 113 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: but you are headed to Big D Saturday. Yes I am, 114 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: and the Big D will wait for the Big Red, 115 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: and that big Red will not be Young Zach as 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: you like to call me in an Almo costume, because 117 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: then the young Zach has its full uh, the meaning 118 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: of the name truly is there. 119 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll be in I'll be in Dallas Cardinals 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Premiere Travel. We're sending a bunch of fans on one 121 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: of the Arizona Cardinals team planes. Everyone's going to be 122 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: flying out there. I have a handful of legends that 123 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: are going to be joining us for the trip. Of course, 124 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: you have Adrian Wilson that's going to be on the trip, 125 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: Marcus Golden, You're gonna have a bunch of other alums 126 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 3: that are going to be meeting us there. Tyron Matthew, 127 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: the Honey Badger is going to be there. Pat p 128 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: hopefully is going to be there. Sam Acho. There's gonna 129 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: be a bunch of some of the guys that really 130 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: rep the Cardinals uniform the right way that are all 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: going to be in attendance. And it's just gonna be fun. 132 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: And the thing is is that there's a very passionate 133 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: group of fans that are going to be traveling to 134 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: Dallas to Jerry World. And the number one thing that 135 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: they want to see is a Cardinals victory. They'll see 136 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: all the amazing stuff that they'll get as part of 137 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: the trip. They'll have all the amazing happy hours and 138 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 3: the tailgates and all the amazing different events that they'll 139 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: be taking part in. But the one event that everybody 140 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: wants to see is the Cardinals heading over there to Dallas. 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: And regardless of who the quarterback is, regardless of how 142 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: it gets done, they want to see that the Cardinals 143 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: snap this five game losing skit get a win, no 144 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: matter how it looks, whether that's three or nothing or 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: thirty three to thirty, but the Cardinals come in two 146 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: and five the Cowboys three, four and one six point fifteen. 147 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: Is the kickoff two thirty pre game come average begins 148 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. We'll get into the 149 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: matchup more in depth when we hear from Kyle Yeomans. 150 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: But you brought it up Kyler Murray again preparing for 151 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: K one to start. Those were the That was the 152 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: question asked and the answer from head coach Jonathan Gainnon 153 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: on Wednesday, or I should say on Thursday. This entire week, 154 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: it is just completely screwed up. My normal routine, but 155 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: that's okay. When JG spoke on Thursday, he was asked, 156 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: are you preparing for Kyler Murray to start? The response 157 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: was yeah, so okay, we're preparing for Kyler Murray to start. 158 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: And we'll hear more from JG. His final media availability 159 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: will come on Saturday. Whether or not we get a 160 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: definitive response then who knows. But right now, K one, 161 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: after missing the past two weeks or two games, expected 162 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: to be on the practice field, and as we've talked 163 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: all week long, it's if you're looking for the game 164 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: to come back to, it is certainly doll At and 165 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: T Stadium, where Kyler Murray is nine to zero, eight 166 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: to zero as a starting quarterback, and that goes back 167 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: to his high school days at Allen High School, his 168 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: time at Texas A and M and Oklahoma, and of 169 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: course two games starting for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, we'll 170 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: peel back the current here a little bit. Typically on 171 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: the first day of practice of the week, we'll typically 172 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: hear from the quarterback that did not happen this week 173 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: the Cardinals, and it didn't happen the previous two game 174 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: weeks as well. Heading into the game against the Colts 175 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 3: and then one against the Packers. We spoke to Jacoby 176 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: Brissette at the end of the week both of those 177 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: weeks inside the locker room. As of us recording this, 178 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: we have not spoken to either quarterback yet. So when 179 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: we think about it, we see all the reports that 180 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: all the ESPN outlets are saying that Kayla's expected to 181 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: play john at again and said that they're preparing for 182 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: him to be the starter out there. But it's all 183 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: up to what is Kyler Murray's health status. Where is 184 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: he at the injury report, will see what he's going 185 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: to be listed. But this is the week, as you mentioned, 186 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: he's had the most amount of success inside the stadium 187 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: compared to any other and this dates all the way 188 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: back to his high school days. And when a quarterback 189 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: has confidence, it's a dangerous thing, and Kyler Murray is 190 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: a different breed once he walks inside at and T. 191 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: Hopefully we do see Kyler Murray on the field on Monday. 192 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: I would also say that there are a couple other 193 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: players we might see return this week. One I firmly 194 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: believe will be on the field and that is Garrett Williams. 195 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: We have not seen him since Week two. Near the 196 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: end of that home game against the Carolina Panthers, hurt 197 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: his knee and then landed on ir His practice window 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: opened up, and typically, you know, historically this team uses 199 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: a lot of that window. But because Garrett had training 200 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: camp and has been playing, it wouldn't surprise me if 201 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: Garrett returns this week. And I know you and only 202 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: you on Thursday had a chance. After Garrett was on 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the practice field on Thursday for the second time this week, 204 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: you spoke with Garrett, and it's it's always fascinating to 205 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: get the players perspective versus our perspective when we're watching 206 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: a play. In this one particular, when Garrett and Buddha collide, 207 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: it was, oh my goodness, it's another knee injury, maybe 208 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: even season ending for Garrett. And that was not exactly 209 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the case that Garrett told you. 210 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I well, let's take it back a quick 211 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: second here. You mentioned two practices. That's because the Cardinals 212 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: coming off the by had a bonus practice on Tuesday. 213 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: It was allowing them to get their legs under them 214 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: a little bit. It would have been on a Monday, 215 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: but because of the bye week and the fact that 216 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 3: it's on Monday night football. They pushed everything back a 217 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: day so everything was done on Tuesday. It was good 218 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: to see Garrett out there for both practices. Looks really 219 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: good as he's moving around and he was trying to 220 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: get away in the locker room, and surprise, Zach Gershman 221 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: walks up to the locker. So I went up and 222 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: I talked to Garrett one on one for an article 223 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: you can read on Ezycardinals dot com sometime on Friday, 224 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: and I asked him about the injury. First off, I 225 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 3: asked him, were you surprised that you were going to 226 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: be able to with your recovery? How you how quickly 227 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: you been able to come back? And he said, no, 228 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: this has kind of always been the plan. I knew 229 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: it wasn't season ending, and I said to him, well, Garrett, 230 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: to be honest, from our perspective, it looked like how 231 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: Craig just described it there. It looked like it was 232 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: going to be a season ending knee injury. And this 233 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: is when the expression humor and pain kind of came 234 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: to mind for me. He goes, well, yeah, I got 235 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: hit in my knee and it hurt. So I was 236 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: down on the ground and at the end of the day, 237 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: we could we could overanalyze some of these injuries. So unfortunately, 238 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: there's some injuries where you see it and you're like 239 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: that he's done. The Cardinals had that with James Conner 240 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: with his ankle injury. It was clear that he was 241 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: going to be done. Tip Ryman, we saw these kinds 242 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: of things. With Garrett, we assumed that that's what it 243 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: was going to be, and I think everybody's hearts were 244 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: kind of a little bit down because we were thinking, 245 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: all right, Garrett has a history of knee problems. He 246 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: tore his aco back in college, and he said, I 247 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: understand that I could see people's perspective of that, but 248 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I just hurt my 249 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: knee and it's stung, and it kind of brings it 250 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: back down to brings us back to life a little 251 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 3: bit when we start to say, like, all right, this 252 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: is a physical sport and these sort of injuries happened. Now, 253 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: he did not go into the specifics of what his 254 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: knee injury was, but we at least know that it 255 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: was not severe enough for him to be done for 256 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: the year. He's been back on the practice field. He 257 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: told me that He's confident in his ability to help 258 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: the Cardinals come back and win. He said, you will 259 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: get my track record all the way back to high 260 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: school and to college, similar to Kyler, not to the 261 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: success that Kyler had, but he said, hey, I know 262 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 3: I could help make winning plays. I'm not going to 263 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: guarantee that we're gonna win this game because I'm back, 264 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: but I can guarantee that I'm going to do everything 265 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 3: I can to help us try to win. 266 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: To and oh with Garrett Williams on the football field, 267 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, that that situation laid in the game against 268 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: the Panthers. You see Garrett's reaction and you all automatically 269 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: assume the worst as opposed to what really was. I 270 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: was in a lot of pain and my knee hurt. Okay, 271 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: So again you look and you think and you're like, Okay, 272 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: that was just the wrong thought process in that moment. 273 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't a devastating injury. It's just that Garrett was 274 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: in a lot of pain. 275 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I the last thing before we get into 276 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: the interview and starting to preview a little bit more 277 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: for the Dallas Cowboys, because it's going to be a 278 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: tough opponent that the Cardinals are going against I asked 279 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: him from his perspective watching these games on the sidelines, 280 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: because you said it, Craig, the two games he's been there, 281 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: they've won. They have not won a game with Garrett 282 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: Williams on the sidelines. And I asked him just watching 283 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: it the perspective he might have and how that might 284 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: be a little bit different. And he talked about we 285 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: trust themselves and feeling that he could deliver. But the 286 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: quote here that I love, he said, we're really climbing. 287 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: All the games are obviously really close. We just haven't 288 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: been able to get over the hump. So for me, 289 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: that's where I see if I could just show up 290 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: and I know how I can make a difference, maybe 291 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: I could be that difference to get us over that 292 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: hump and to get us those wins. That's what the 293 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: Cardinals are hoping for. We talk all the time about 294 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: the struggles in the fourth quarter. You need as much 295 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: veteran leadership as you have out there, and Garrett's are 296 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: only his third season in the league, but that's still 297 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: a veteran when you consider how young this secondary is. 298 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: Plays very well in this Cardinals defense. So hopefully we 299 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: see not only Kyler, but Garrett. And then there's another 300 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: potential return, in fact, a season debut, Walter Nolan the third. Again, 301 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: that practice window has been opened up. This is week 302 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: three as we're talking about. He has until Wednesday, after 303 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football as far as whether or not that 304 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: window closes or he gets added to the active roster, 305 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: and there's there's a certain thought process that this potentially 306 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: could be the game against the Cowboys in which Walter 307 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: is able to make his season debut. Cardinals do have 308 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: two open roster spots on their fifty three man roster, 309 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: so keep that in mind as well. Bjo Julari on 310 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: the practice field for the first time on Thursday. It 311 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: was his practice window opened up, so that is good. 312 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: He'll probably take maybe the full three weeks. But in 313 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: hearing from him post practice on Thursday, very open, very honest. 314 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: Yes it was a fifteen month recovery, Yes it took 315 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: longer than he anticipated and others, but it wasn't just 316 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: an ACL injury. According to bj, he tore two other 317 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: ligaments in his knee and that's why, in his words, 318 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: the journey was hell at times. 319 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: And that's why I asked him, how would he summarize it, 320 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: and he said, it's exactly that. He said, he leaned 321 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: on a lot of his teammates and they and the 322 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: staff and his faith and all those different things that 323 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: could help a player, because look, at the end of 324 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: the day, this is a very this is a sport 325 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: full of a lot of players with pride, and you 326 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: want to be that guy out there. And bj was 327 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: expected to be that guy. When we talked about players 328 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: expecting to make that second year jump, everyone was eager 329 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: to see what Garrett Williams would look like with that 330 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: second year jump, now that he would have a full 331 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: season under his belt, what Paris Johnson Junior would look 332 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: like going from the right side of the line to 333 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: the left side of the line, how Michael Wilson could 334 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: potentially work with Marvin Harrison Junior. But it was bjo 335 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: Jali because we knew the struggles that the Cardinals had 336 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: in the pass rush room, and they didn't make terribly 337 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: many investments at that point because they put so much 338 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: into bjo Jlari being the guy. And he said, that's 339 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: honestly what made it worse is because he knew the 340 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: role that he was supposed to have, and that was 341 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: the toughest part is now that role just slipt right 342 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: through your fingers, not to your own fault. It was 343 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: simply a way that he bent his knee twisted, and 344 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: he obviously had the road to recovery that he did. 345 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: But he say he's been working every single day in 346 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: the facility. I thought it was interesting the players that 347 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: he was mentioning that had been helping guide him through it. 348 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: Talked about Blall Nichols and we talked, and I spoke 349 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: with Billall for an article on asy cardinals dot com 350 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: about his neck injury and his recovery and how he 351 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: was in the building every single day. But it's the 352 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: fact that James Connor, who is going through a version 353 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: of hell of his own right now, has been able 354 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: to still put that to the side, still have that 355 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: captain leadership that we know James Connor has within him, 356 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: and to still be there for BJ. It's been pretty 357 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: sweet to see that. I'm sure that that definitely does 358 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: make a difference when it can feel like a lonely journey. 359 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: Now you just hope that this journey is positive. The 360 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: steps that BJ takes, how he responds after practice, how 361 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: he responds after a couple of days of practice and 362 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: he able to ramp himself up to where again you 363 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: get that shot in the arm that hopefully the Cardinals 364 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: get with. They're returning with Garrett returning, maybe even Walter 365 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: returning or making his season debut. Coming up on Monday, Yes, 366 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals on the road post bye week, the first 367 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: of two straight on the road. There's the game against 368 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks coming up in week ten. But first 369 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: things first Week nine and for more on the game, 370 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: Zach and I, we had the chance to speak with 371 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's TV host and reporter for Dallascowboys dot Com. 372 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: So by now, I think most if not all of 373 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: us have either seen, heard, or read Brian Schottenheimer's comments 374 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: about the offense. They are impressive numbers, Kyle. How does 375 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: the fan base, though, feel about the Cowboys eight games 376 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: into the season. 377 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, thanks for having me. First off, and secondly, 378 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: I think the fan base right now is more so 379 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: exactly what Brian Schottenheimer said and exactly how he feels. 380 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: They're three four and one. So despite all of the offense, 381 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 4: his numbers, and despite a lot of the statistics that 382 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 4: they've put up there, it hasn't turned into the success 383 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 4: that they would have won it through the first eight 384 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 4: games in the season. I think the biggest thing when 385 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: it comes to this team is that the criticism and 386 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: the do criticism that it is around this defense and 387 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: the lack thereof, especially coming off of their worst performance 388 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: forty four points allowed against Denver. I think there's optimism 389 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: because of what the offense has shown throughout the season 390 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: and the consistency that they had all the way up 391 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 4: until their matchup last week against Denver. But when the 392 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 4: defense is playing the way that it has, I think 393 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 4: a lot of that optimism turns to frustration because you 394 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 4: don't want to waste what you have on offense just 395 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: because that unit hasn't played their best football yet. 396 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: How much pressure is there on Iberfus. We know John 397 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 3: Agan has a very close relationship with him, But coaching 398 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: in Dallas is it takes It's a different kind of 399 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: experience than coaching in any other place. 400 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly is. And you're under the microscope not 401 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 4: only from a metroplex or an area standpoint, you're under 402 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: the microscope from a national standpoint when you coach and 403 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: play for this team. As you guys know, very well 404 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: out in Arizona. I mean, Iberflus knew what he was 405 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: getting himself into because he was a linebackers coach in 406 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: Dallas for eight seasons. He had been a defensive coordinator 407 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 4: that had a lot of success in Indianapolis following his 408 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: tenure here in Dallas, so he knew coming back to 409 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 4: DFW was not going to be an easy conversation or 410 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 4: an easy task, but he knew that there was going 411 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: to be work there for him on the defensive side. 412 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing with ibra Flus is that, 413 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 4: with all of that being said, in the expectations that 414 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: he had set, he anticipated when he took this job 415 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: that he would have an all Pro pass rusher in 416 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: Micah Parsons trying to get after opposing quarterbacks. And he 417 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: thought he would have two healthy all Pro corners in 418 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: de Ron and Trayvon Diggs. And he probably anticipated a 419 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: little bit more help from guys like osa Odigi Zua 420 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 4: and maybe the nickel cornerback spot. But all of that 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: hasn't played a factor to this point in the season. 422 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: You've had a revolving Doris corner all but one of 423 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: your active safeties on your fifty three man roster are 424 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: currently hurt. There's only one guy remaining and it's Marquise Bell. 425 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: And then we've of course seen what's happened with the 426 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 4: trade and Michael Parsons early in the season and the 427 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: lack of pass rush that has since followed from Dallas. 428 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 4: So a lot of the things that I think coach 429 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: Eberfluss maybe had circled in his game plan going into 430 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: the season has had to be thrown out the window 431 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: and completely readjusted now that he gets a good look 432 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: through the first two months of the season at what 433 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: he's really working with. 434 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: You brought up Michael Parsons. It's easy for a lot 435 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: of people, I think a lot of people on the outside, 436 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: people not paying attention, maybe on an everyday basis, but 437 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: as it too easy to just say, okay, no Michael Parsons, 438 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: and that's maybe a large reason why the defense has 439 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: suffered so much. 440 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 4: It certainly would help to have a guy like that 441 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: in your defense and to take the time to throw down. 442 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 4: I think, even though it does sound simplistic, and it 443 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: does sound maybe surface level to say, oh, when Michael 444 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: Parsons isn't around, your defense isn't going to play as well. 445 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: But that's kind of what you've seen throughout. I mean, 446 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: this secondary is being stretched on aasc attempt after pass attempt, 447 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: especially with these mobile quarterbacks that they've faced, that can 448 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 4: get outside of the pocket, that can extend plays and 449 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: throw the ball down the field. I mean, they've had 450 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: a field day against the Dallas defense because they don't 451 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: have any worry of a Dallas pass rush. I mean, 452 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: they're bottom ten in the league in pressure rate, their 453 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: bottom ten in the league in terms of time to 454 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 4: throw in allowing time to throw to opposing quarterbacks, and 455 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: that's one of the biggest problems. Now Dallas has seen 456 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: a benefit from the trade. Kenny Clark comes in has 457 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 4: played really well at the defensive tackle position, quite possibly 458 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: the best defensive tackle play that Dallas has had in 459 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 4: years at that position. But it's not enough when he's 460 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: the only guy that's really playing at a high level 461 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: on your defense. Your secondary has been stretched because of 462 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: the lack of pass rush, and having a guy like Mica, 463 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: an elite edge rusher, would certainly fix some things. And 464 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 4: Dallas is seeing the byproduct of seeing him not a 465 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: part of this defense at all. 466 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: See, it's good that you mentioned Kenny Clark because when 467 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: the trade happened, Jerry Jones was talking about the need 468 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: to add a run stuffer, and that's kind of what 469 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: you guys have in Kenny Clark. But why collectively it 470 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: doesn't just take one player, as you mentioned, it takes 471 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: a whole defensive front. Why has the rushing defense been 472 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: such a struggle. 473 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's really ramped back up again over the 474 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: last four weeks. I think through the first month of 475 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: the season, all the way from Week one against still 476 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 4: elfi ad A. Week four against Green Bay, Dallas did 477 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: a pretty nice job and they were kind of middle 478 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: of the pack in terms of stopping the run, which 479 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 4: is really all you could ask for with one big 480 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: switch up front and your defensive front seven. But starting 481 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 4: with Breeth Hall in the New York Jets in week five, 482 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 4: in Week six, it was Carolina and Rico Dawdle. Week seven, 483 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 4: they blew out Washington, so Washington wasn't running the football 484 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: a whole lot. And then we saw what happened last 485 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: week when Denver ran for one hundred and seventy nine 486 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: yards against this Cowboys team. They haven't had the same 487 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 4: success stopping the run over the second month of the 488 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: year that they did the front and I think a 489 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: lot of that just has to deal with how teams 490 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: have read this defense. If it's just Kenny Clark that 491 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: is the number one run stuffer and got discipline from 492 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 4: the other three techniques on the roster at the defensive 493 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 4: tackle position, the lack of edge setting that is going 494 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 4: on from your defensive end, and then the lack of 495 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: discipline and and read from your linebackers. All three of 496 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: those positions can be scrutinized and criticized based off of 497 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: their play against the run really since the start of 498 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: the second month of the year, because I mean there 499 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: are plays where OsO Digizua, who received the massive contract 500 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: extension from Dallas, has been pushed off the ball and 501 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: outside of his pocket and outside of his gap discipline 502 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 4: in his scheme, and it allows for a cutback lane 503 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 4: for a guy. There's one play against Green Bay where 504 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs had all sorts of run room because OsO 505 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: Digizua tried to jump around his block and got washed 506 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: out of the play. And that happens far too often. 507 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: And I think there are things that Dallas can do 508 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: to shore up the run defense and to make an 509 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: impact on the interior. But right now you just have 510 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 4: one guy, and that's Kenny Clark that is doing his 511 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: job at stopping the run. Everybody else has to look 512 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: themselves in the mirror and find a way to get 513 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: back to what they were doing through the first four 514 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: weeks of the year. 515 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: On the defense. Because you brought up the Cowboys struggles 516 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: against mobile quarterbacks. Thursday, head coach Jonathan Gannon mentioned that 517 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: they are preparing as if Kyler Murray is going to 518 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: start on Monday after missing the previous two weeks. How 519 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: much and obviously the storyline is Kyler's never lost in 520 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: that building, going back to high school, college and pro. Hey, 521 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: we're playing that up real big here in Arizona. How 522 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: much so are we? How much of a worry is 523 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: it or a concern if it is Kyler under center 524 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. 525 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he always finds a way to take it to 526 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 4: an extra gear against Dallas, doesn't he. I mean, I 527 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 4: mean you guys, I know you've covered the team over 528 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: the last throughout his really his entire career, and when 529 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: he takes a step into that stadium, he's a different 530 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: confidence level than any other quarterback that you've seen if 531 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: you're Dallas over the last couple years, and I covered 532 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: Kyler in high school when he was up here playing 533 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: for Allen and Man. He was one of the best 534 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 4: high school athletes I've ever seen, regardless of the level. 535 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 4: He was just so much fun to watch. And you 536 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: saw that in college and winning the Heisman Trophy and 537 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: going on and being the number one pick, and now 538 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 4: of course has put together quite the career with Arizona. 539 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 4: I don't really have an answer on why the confidence 540 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: level is so much better here. Maybe it's just he's 541 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 4: a competitor who takes it to another level when he 542 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: goes up against this team that he grew up just 543 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 4: within a spitting distance from in Dallas. Or maybe it 544 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: is just the matchup in teams like like we are. 545 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 4: Like I discussed early on, teams has seen the benefit 546 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: of getting their quarterback and making them mobile. The one 547 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: team I think that didn't allow for their guys to 548 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: be mobile would probably be the Jets and the Commanders. 549 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels was coming off of an injury though, so 550 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 4: I kind of give the Commanders a pass. I don't 551 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 4: know why New York didn't want Justin Fields to use 552 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: his legs as much as possible. But when Russell Wilson 553 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: did it, and Jordan Love did it, and Caleb Williams 554 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 4: did it. Even Bryce Young a couple times in that 555 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: Carolina game and he didn't really have to do much 556 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: because of what Rico Gudel did. Teams have allowed their 557 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: quarterback to show mobility and to extend plays because Dallas 558 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 4: has done such a poor job of setting the edge. 559 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: That's my biggest concern for Dallas against Kyler Murray. If 560 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 4: he gets rolling and moving, he's going to make the 561 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: big play happen, especially when he's got the confidence level 562 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: he does here at Arlington. 563 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: The questions you have for the Jets, I think a 564 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: lot of Jets fans also have that same questions probably, 565 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: so you talk about the confidence that a quarterback needs 566 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: to have and gets to have, and Kyler has that 567 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: when he goes to Dallas. But Dak Prescott also seems 568 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: to even be playing with a ton of confidence. I 569 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: think if the team had a better record, it would 570 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: be probably the number one storyline and a lot of 571 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: major news outlets. How has he been able to take 572 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: that next step to now be playing at an elite 573 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: level so far? 574 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just sees the defense at such a high 575 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: level free snap, which has allowed him to make the 576 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 4: right decisions and make the right moves post snap, even 577 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: when he's having to deal with pressure. He's been one 578 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: of the best play with passers against the blitz throughout 579 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: his career, especially when he's able to utilize play action 580 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 4: to his benefit. But even against just straight pressure this year, 581 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: he's been really good, with the exception of the last 582 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: game against Denver, and I think the general consensus is 583 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 4: that that game against the Broncos was a one off 584 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: for this offense because they've showed out and they've played 585 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: well against other good, solid defensive fronts throughout the season. 586 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: But the way that Dak is seeing the game, and 587 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: I even had a conversation last week with Tony Romo 588 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: and he said the same thing. He said, he's seeing 589 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: it better than he ever has. And when you're doing 590 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: that as a quarterback, it lets everything kind of fall 591 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: in place. And I think the biggest thing that defenses 592 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: can do to throw him off the spot is just 593 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 4: get there quicker, Just get home quicker, and he gets 594 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: into the pressing for like he did against Denver, and 595 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 4: that's where he starts making mistakes and is unable to 596 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: find those weapons like Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens on 597 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: the outside, which also that plays a factor too. He 598 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: has more weapons around him than he ever has. Cavante 599 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: Williams has played well, Jake Ferguson is one of the 600 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 4: top receiving threats at tight end this year, and then 601 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: the addition of George Pickens to pair with CD Lamp. 602 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: Both of those guys have had incredible starts to the year. 603 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: As long as they're healthy and on the field, they've 604 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: played at a high level. All of that to say, 605 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: Dak is the one that stirs the drink for the Cowboys, 606 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: and they continue to really rely on him, especially when 607 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: the defense isn't playing the way that they should be either. 608 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: When you talk about the weapons, the one that stands 609 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: out to me. Yes, there'll be tons of story lines 610 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: with the wideouts, but Jake Ferguson's emergence seems to really 611 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: be a surprise at least to me. Is that more 612 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: so a byproduct of the fact that you now have 613 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: a guy like George Pickens out there in Ceedee Lamb 614 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: or is this a Brian Schohnheimer type of thing. Why 615 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: has he been able to start to have that rise. 616 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: I think it's it's the second option you gave. I 617 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: think it's a conservative effort from Brian Schottenheimer to get 618 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson involved. And remember he made a Pro Bowl 619 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty three at an incredible season with 620 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 4: Dallas that year where they went twelve and five and 621 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 4: were the two seed in the NFC. He was a 622 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 4: big part of that. And I think coach Schottenheimer as 623 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 4: the play caller, knows that he has that trust level 624 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 4: built up with Dak Prescott to the fact that if 625 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: George Pickens is covered, if Cede Lamb is covered, there's 626 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: a consistent number three option that he can throw it to. 627 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: And he's not averaging out of the world stats in 628 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: terms of catch or yards for catch and yards on average. 629 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: I mean he's mostly kept to five or six yards. 630 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: But if that's a consistent safety blanket for Dak Prescott 631 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: to throw to, Dak is going to take that every 632 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 4: time rather than try and fit it in a tight 633 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: window and make the tough throw. Last week, he was 634 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: held without a reception for the first time since twenty 635 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: twenty two, his rookie season, and you could see the 636 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 4: byproduct of what it meant to not have him playing 637 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: at a high level and not have him involved in 638 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: that offense as they put together their worst game. If 639 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: Arizona can find a way to then gate Jake Ferguson 640 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 4: and take him out of the game, it's going to 641 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 4: make things a whole lot tougher on this offense. And 642 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: that's a huge credit to what shot he has done 643 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: as the play caller and what Jake Ferguson has done 644 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: as a legitimate, legitimate pass catching and all around tight 645 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 4: end option for this Cowboys offense. 646 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: Among tight ends, Ferguson ranks first and receptions tenth and 647 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: receiving yards and tied for second in receiving touchdowns with six. 648 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun on Monday night. Kyle, 649 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: appreciate the time, love the information, and I'd say best 650 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: of luck, but after Monday, best of luck the rest 651 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: of the way. 652 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm okay with that. That's good to me. Appreciate 653 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: you having me, guys, and safe travels. 654 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Good stuff there from Kyle Bird Gang. If you want 655 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: to follow more of Kyle and his work, it's at 656 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: Kyle Underscore Yeomans and he does a great job and 657 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: we enjoy speaking with him here on Cardinals cover too. 658 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: What we did not get a chance to address with 659 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: Kyle is something I want to bring up here, and 660 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: that is the difference in the Cowboys at home versus 661 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: on the road, because their splits are night and day, 662 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: literally night and day. At home undefeated two zero to one, 663 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: or I should say unbeaten, and they average better than 664 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: forty one points a game. On the road one in 665 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: four and they average less than twenty five points per game. 666 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: Is that home cooking? 667 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: It's something I mean, I can certainly sense the frustration 668 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: coming out of the Cowboys market and fan base because 669 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: of all right, you're so good at home, why can't 670 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: you be as good on the road. And then there's 671 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: what we talked about with Kyle, like, Okay, the offense 672 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: is so good and the defense is so bad. There's 673 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: got to be more of a middle ground if you 674 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: hope to have success in right now the Cowboys again, 675 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: one more win the Cardinals right now. 676 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, here's the problem. We're going to Dallas. It's a 677 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 3: team that's good at home, and I think that this 678 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: is something that this Cardinals team is gonna need to 679 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: be mindful of. But then again, regardless of where the 680 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: white lines are painted, you have to be able to 681 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: just go and deliver. And I think that that's something 682 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: the Cowboys fan base is probably like, well, why can 683 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 3: you do it here and not there? Why is our 684 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: defense struggling as much as it is the Cardinals, though 685 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna need to figure it out that 686 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: this is two teams that are desperate for wins in 687 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: their own ways. The Cowboys with a loss, they start 688 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: to slide back even further in the NFC East. The 689 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 3: Cardinals are not at any point in their time where 690 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: they can fall back. They have no room to fall back. 691 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 3: The margin of error is even smaller. So this needs 692 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: This is starting to become must win territory for the Cardinals. 693 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 3: And if you're able to do it on the road, 694 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: that's just whatever it's got to be to get it 695 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 3: done has got to be done. 696 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: Three and five certainly much better than two and six. 697 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: And we heard from Jonathan Gannon all week long about Okay, 698 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: we are where we are, now, what are we going 699 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: to do about it? And how do you begin to 700 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: dig yourself out of that hole? Again, a hole that 701 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: they created themselves. But are you able to dig themselves 702 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: out of this hole with a tough ten game stretch 703 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: with the first two on the road. And then remember 704 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: you have not even played the Saint Louis the Los 705 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. They used to be yeah, well way way 706 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: back Halloween spooky times, and you still have those games 707 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: against the Rams. So there is a path for this 708 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: team to to get back into the swing of things. 709 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: But it only happens if you're able to get a 710 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: win Monday night. 711 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: It starts with one. It starts with one. The confidence 712 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 3: that one win could bring to a team is extraordinary 713 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 3: what it could do. And I think that this is 714 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 3: something that this is a squad that needs any momentum 715 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 3: that they could get and they need to find it wherever. 716 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: And if you're able to do it in front of 717 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: a primetime audience, that's massive, and that confidence translates over 718 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: because you're not only gonna be We're gonna look ahead 719 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: a little bit here. You have Seattle right after this 720 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: on the road in Seattle. If you're able to prove 721 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 3: that you're able to win in primetime on the road 722 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: in a place like Dallas, then you can handle Seattle. 723 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: You want to show this Seattle team that they got 724 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: lucky with their walk off victory win on Thursday Night football. 725 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 3: That's what you want to start to show to your opponents, 726 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: your future opponents, how you're able to perform on primetime. 727 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 3: But it has been done. It's gonna be my article 728 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 3: the day ahead of the game, So on such day 729 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 3: it'll be out about how some. 730 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: Of these are questioning yourself. 731 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, at the moment, the days are as you said earlier, 732 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 3: the days are starting to get a little bit wonky. 733 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 3: But the day before the game, I'm going to have 734 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: an article on Azy Cardinals dot com about the experiences 735 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 3: of some of these guys who have been in buildings 736 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 3: worth a two and five record and even sometimes even worse, 737 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: and how they were able to dig themselves out of 738 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 3: the hole and find themselves in the playoff hunt. Jonathan 739 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: Gannon said he talked with his team about his previous 740 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: experiences during his time in Philadelphia and twenty twenty one 741 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: when they were two and five and then one in 742 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 3: five in Indianapolis in twenty eighteen with Jacoby Brissett on 743 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: that roster and the quarterback of that team as well, 744 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: So he said that he spoke about it. He said 745 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that his experience was the right experience 746 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 3: or the wrong experience. The end of the day, the 747 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: Cardinals have a pen and they're trying to write their stories, 748 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: but it's got to start with the win. In Dallas. 749 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football six point fifteen is the kickoff two thirty. 750 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: Pre game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 751 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals two and five, Cowboys three, four and one, and yes, 752 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: let's hope that this is this is the week that 753 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are able to end a long, close losing streak, 754 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: losing these past five games by combined thirteen points, so 755 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: they are right there. You've got to be able to 756 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: figure out one more play, two more plays, hone in 757 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: on the details and again everything that we've heard for 758 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: a week and a half now and even going all 759 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: the way back before this by a week as far 760 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: as what needs to happen in order to get the 761 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: ship right back and on the straight and there. 762 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 3: Coaching and playing better is what Jag has said that 763 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 3: Dave needed to work on. There's only one way to 764 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: show it. You could practice it all you want, but 765 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 3: there's only one time to show it, and it's on 766 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: game day. The Cardinals have an opportunity to really set 767 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: themselves up for success and to carve that path that 768 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 3: we're talking about, but it starts with one. That's what 769 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 3: we keep going back to. We could look ahead, but 770 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: we're not going to gain any benefit from looking ahead. 771 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 3: The Cardinals need to get the job done. This is 772 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: a Dallas team that, as we said, is vulnerable in 773 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 3: their own ways, especially on the defensive side the ball. 774 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 3: Figure it out. Something's got to be done well. 775 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: The difference this week is that you're traveling going in 776 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: early with premier travel and a number of Cardinals legends. 777 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, the the onus is on USA. 778 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: We'll have so much content on our asy Cardinals platforms, 779 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: asycardinals dot Com. It will be a lot of exclusive 780 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 3: stories that you won't find anywhere else, So definitely make 781 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 3: sure to check it out because we're gonna have a 782 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 3: lot of the fans experiences we're gonna be documenting. Obviously, 783 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: this is a trip that's all for the fans, where 784 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: we are bringing the game day experience on the road. 785 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: So we're bringing a pit a bit of State Farm 786 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 3: Stadium to AT and T Stadium, and once again, you 787 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: just got to hope you come away with the win 788 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: because that flight back to the valley right after the 789 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: game was will be a fun one. It'll be a 790 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 3: tired one, a long weekend with a lot of activities, 791 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: but it'll be a fun one. 792 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: Enjoy it. Thank you, and good luck tonight. 793 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 3: Thank you. And also, if anybody on the on the 794 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 3: Premiere Travel is going to be there that is listening 795 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 3: to cover two, give me some of the questions you 796 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 3: want me to ask Craig in the future episodes, because 797 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: I will ask and Craig will be forced to answer 798 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: them because they're a part of Premier Travel and that's 799 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: what matters. 800 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: Wow, you're just throwing down the gauntlet, aren't you. Yeah, 801 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: it's a part of the the fine print other duties 802 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: as a signed yet essentially all right, I wish you 803 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: well in your travels and again, good luck in the 804 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: trick or treating. And maybe the Alma onesie is what 805 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: separates you from everyone else, and that bag gets very 806 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: full tonight. 807 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'm gonna be trick or treating, 808 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 3: but if somebody else is wearing this Alma onesie, it's 809 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: going down. 810 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: Jeez, that pictures back in my brain now again. I 811 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: gotta get that out of there all right, enjoy It 812 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun on Monday, and of 813 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: course Young Zach on Halloween night. Who knows what's going 814 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: to happen here on Friday night. I just saw the picture. Okay, 815 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: here we go on that notes, we'll put a lid 816 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by a Hundai, 817 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 818 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Amhundra, our associate producer Coddy 819 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: Fincher for Young Zach Kershman aka Elmo. I'm Craig real Lou. 820 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.