WEBVTT - How Streaming Video Works

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the podcast. My name is Chris Poulette. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an editor at how Stuff Works, and uh, as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting next to me, I've got senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Howdy,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh I think we'll go merrily, merrily, merrily down

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<v Speaker 1>the stream. Yes, yes, we're gonna talk about video streaming online. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably familiar with the technology. Um, it's been around

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<v Speaker 1>for quite some time. Um, you know he's tune in

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<v Speaker 1>and spend twenty three minutes waiting for it to uh

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<v Speaker 1>buffer so that you can watch it. Or you watch

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two seconds of it and then it stops, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you wait, and then you watch another second and

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<v Speaker 1>it stops. Put it on pause, Gonna make a sandwich,

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Or if you have a fast internet connection,

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<v Speaker 1>like some of our friends out in San Francisco, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what we're talking about because you just

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<v Speaker 1>watch it and it just plays as you're Actually that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably true for most people, right, anyone who's done on

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<v Speaker 1>dial up? Yeah, anyone who's not on dial upe probably has.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as long as the connection is pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you probably have seen streaming video without too much

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble. Yeah. But um, where we weren't really talking

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<v Speaker 1>about applications like YouTube when we were discussing what we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to talk about today, and uh, really what

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about was more along the lines of

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<v Speaker 1>sites like Hulu dot com. Um. And for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who are not familiar with Hulu, it is one

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<v Speaker 1>of several that we're gonna mention. Um. But basically, you

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<v Speaker 1>can tune in, watch a TV show, a movie. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Really the whole thing, you know, supported by advertising. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Actually, yeah, it's in a tiny little window.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not we're not talking you know, full screen. Well

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make it, but it's blocking, right, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the definition is lower than standard definition for your television.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's it's the fact that you have

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<v Speaker 1>access to this pretty large library of content, um, legitimately,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the that's the best part is that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about the site being taken down

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, of violation of copyright laws. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is the actual content providers UM. In

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<v Speaker 1>the case of Hulu, UM, it's Fox and NBC Universal,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're seeing UM. In some cases it's way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>decades old TV shows, and other instances it's more UM

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<v Speaker 1>modern stuff. UM. And in a lot of cases, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's conflicting with current stuff, it'll be a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>behind or maybe old. They'll have just clips. UM. Star Galactica,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, is the show which they don't have full

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of, although you can watch the original show and

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<v Speaker 1>go really, they decided to completely remake this. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>why remake perfection? You already have perfected people. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I admit that I never watched a new

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Ballstar Galactica, but I was a die hard

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the original and if you disgrace it with

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of comment, I will I will have to

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<v Speaker 1>And I best theme music ever. It's the ringtone on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, people, And that is not a joke. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, but I was going to mention, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Hulu being legitimate to give you an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of an illegitimate one. Uh, there's a there's a site

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<v Speaker 1>called TV links, tv TV dash links, and UM it

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<v Speaker 1>was is and was because occasionally it gets taken down.

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<v Speaker 1>As a site that hosts episodes of various television shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might have a few movies as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly it's TV and animation. UM. And it does not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have the permission of the owners to show that material. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is that never happens. So it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those sites where there are lots and lots and lots

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<v Speaker 1>of choices. UM, but you have to if you go there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going there with the knowledge that this site could

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<v Speaker 1>not be there if if the content providers decide that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this is just ridiculous, people are are

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<v Speaker 1>watching our stuff without going through the proper channels, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>then then yeah they could. They could certainly you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sue TV links and say you can't do that, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened a couple of times. I mean there are

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<v Speaker 1>times where if you tried to go to the website,

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<v Speaker 1>it just you get an error message because it's been

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<v Speaker 1>taken down. Um. But you know the reason that it

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<v Speaker 1>was tempting for people to go there because there was

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<v Speaker 1>they could access things that they couldn't necessarily access easily

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<v Speaker 1>wherever they live, like in the United States, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't necessarily have access to some of the programming

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<v Speaker 1>that the BBC does. That's true, and they do offer

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit on the BBC website. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be uh uh yeah yeah. If you're not, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not one of the Queen's subjects, then you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much out of luck. You're subject to being blocked out. Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you can't access the material. Well, the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing is true in other countries when they try and

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<v Speaker 1>access sites over here is sometimes there are restrictions where

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<v Speaker 1>they're not able to do that unless they're using some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of weird proxy. Um um, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get back to Hulu in the legitimacy Hulu,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, I should mention that there are other sites

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<v Speaker 1>that do this. UM. Juiced is probably the most famous.

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<v Speaker 1>UM that's not juiced like in You've just pulped grapefruit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more like j O O s T. And they

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<v Speaker 1>founders of actually have Kaza oddly enough and Skype decided

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to do a streaming TV venture. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course you'd think with that pedigree, you know, with because

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<v Speaker 1>being part of it, go really but actually they have

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<v Speaker 1>gone to great lengths to license a lot of content.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a PBS on board, the Public Broadcasting System CBS,

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<v Speaker 1>Sony Pictures, TV, National Geographic UM. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are involved in that. And they used to have

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<v Speaker 1>a client, a software program that would run these TV shows,

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<v Speaker 1>but now they offer just a plug in for your

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<v Speaker 1>web browser, which makes it a little more simple to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And that's probably because Hulu, which people used

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<v Speaker 1>to pick on for having a goofy name, UH, now

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<v Speaker 1>is um more legitimate. But UM I also found out

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that Comcast Interactive has their own version of this

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<v Speaker 1>called fan cast UM. They have full episodes of TV

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<v Speaker 1>shows and movies and things like that too that they

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<v Speaker 1>have licensed. UM. But talking about the legitimacy of UH

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<v Speaker 1>of Hulu, UM, I was reading an article in Ours

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<v Speaker 1>Technical by Nate Anderson, and to quote him, he says

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<v Speaker 1>it's only a matter of time until the web loses

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<v Speaker 1>its second class status when it comes to video programming. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>last night, UH, we're recording this the day after the

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<v Speaker 1>second presidential debate, and I watched the presidential debate live

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<v Speaker 1>on Hulu dot com. And you know, it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>not a big test for them because you got CNN

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<v Speaker 1>and all the networks and competing with them. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was a test and there were no hiccups. It was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, smooth, it was easy to watch. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was on my computer screen while I was working

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<v Speaker 1>on something else, I could keep an eye on it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking, you know, this could be legitimate, this

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<v Speaker 1>could go you know, big time. Now. You know, Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>says that people are not going to give out their

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<v Speaker 1>TVs because that's you know, you got it in your

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<v Speaker 1>comfy room. You got a wide screen TV. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>you give that up in favor of an anybody window

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<v Speaker 1>on your computer? But you know it's here's they start

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<v Speaker 1>moving into live events. That's that's in a whole different

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<v Speaker 1>And here's another argument. Sure, what if the TV evolves

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<v Speaker 1>into a computer. I mean, there's no reason why television

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<v Speaker 1>is going to stay in the same form factor it's

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<v Speaker 1>in right now. But we know that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>There there are Internet ready television's already being produced. Convergence. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what my you know what, it's the Singularity, it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming brother. Um. But the no, seriously, the the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea of people aren't going to give up their televisions.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't have to. They won't have to give up

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<v Speaker 1>their TVs because their computers and their TVs will become

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<v Speaker 1>one and the same. So you'll start seeing and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be high end first. It will be the early

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<v Speaker 1>adopters who will then drive the price down and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>start to see televisions that are really you know, computers

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a television form um, and you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to use all these services and their their boxes

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<v Speaker 1>out there that kind of allow you to do that

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<v Speaker 1>to some extent um, like the Apple TVs in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and the you know you've got the Netflix, the

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<v Speaker 1>Roku right which is that opened up just recently too.

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<v Speaker 1>They they had some new deals with Roku and that's

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<v Speaker 1>uh for this box that you attached to your TV,

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<v Speaker 1>very much like uh, you would a DVR or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cable or satellite box. But you know you've got more

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<v Speaker 1>than twelve thousand titles already, so you can basically just

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<v Speaker 1>download the video of the movie to your computer, you

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<v Speaker 1>know box that goes on your TV. It's shot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's seamless and um, you know, even things like xbox

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<v Speaker 1>and and PS three, the Voodoo you know. Um, these

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<v Speaker 1>are all hardware solutions that are kind of bridging that

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<v Speaker 1>gap between the computer and the TV. Yeah, and with

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<v Speaker 1>services like uh um Verizons, Fious and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other things. You've got the bandwidth available coming you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hiber Optic bandwidth two in New York City. You're set, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much because you can You've got the bandwidth to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver that real time. Um. You know, you can even

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<v Speaker 1>get some HD programming on on that connection now, so

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<v Speaker 1>you have the same basically the same format. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the right machine attached to your TV. You're you're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much set. You can download anything from New Who

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<v Speaker 1>to use. So do you think programming is going to

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<v Speaker 1>stay programming or do you think it's all just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on demand in the future. That's a good question. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think eventually we will see more of an on

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<v Speaker 1>demand model. UM, I don't know. I think that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a ways off because people are really used to

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<v Speaker 1>the whole programming. Like I tune in at eight p

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<v Speaker 1>m to see this, or I set my t VO

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<v Speaker 1>for a b M to that's the thing. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>chipping away at the right it's it's and it is

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<v Speaker 1>chipping away. I think it's gonna take a little longer

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<v Speaker 1>before it actually heads off completely. I mean, for one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got advertisers who resist that so much because really,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about you know, advertisers, what they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at is they're looking to try and hit a specific

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<v Speaker 1>demographic and they do tons and tons of studies that

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<v Speaker 1>cost millions of dollars to find out when that demographics

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<v Speaker 1>watching television. And if that demographics watching television at eight

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<v Speaker 1>p m, then you can darn well bet that that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the most expensive time to buy ads

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<v Speaker 1>on television. But if you get it to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where yeah, they're watching television at eight p m, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it on demand, so it doesn't matter. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just target eight pm anymore because you have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what they're gonna be watching. That throws lots

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<v Speaker 1>of monkey wrenches into their plans. So the world runs

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<v Speaker 1>on money, and so yeah, it's chipping away. But until

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<v Speaker 1>the financial like giants, the whole marketing UH scheme finds

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<v Speaker 1>a way to to incorporate the whole on demand model, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see a lot of resistance within the industry,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, but I think from what i've from

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<v Speaker 1>what I understand some of the people who are using

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<v Speaker 1>set top box DVRs. UM. I think TiVo in fact

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<v Speaker 1>has a deal with Nielsen where they can pull some

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<v Speaker 1>of that demographic information and they know even what ads

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<v Speaker 1>are fast forwarding through and which ones you go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of funny, and they back up and

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<v Speaker 1>go go through that again. When you're using the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>you can totally track and see how many people are

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<v Speaker 1>downloading a specific or streaming a specific video. So it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like when the companies get over their initial fee

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<v Speaker 1>or of that, they might say, well, actually I can

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<v Speaker 1>get more information this way, right. Maybe it maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>they start pro targeting, targeting specific programs as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>specific blocks of time. Um, and there's still gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>one live things that people want to watch. Election coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the Super Bowl, Uh, you know yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna want to watch live as it happened, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what. You know what we've been kind of talking

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<v Speaker 1>about here besides besides streaming video kind of in a

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<v Speaker 1>big picture way. Um, we've got a boy I keep

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<v Speaker 1>using those without meaning to. Um, we've got a little

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<v Speaker 1>catch catch phrase term that we use here at tech

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff a lot. It's kind of like stuff you should know.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the fight or flight reflex, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that podcast Josh and Chuck, that's that's their

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<v Speaker 1>go to phrase and you should absolutely listen to that,

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<v Speaker 1>right you should, because they're very entertaining, uh and educational.

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<v Speaker 1>But a tech Stuff already go to phrase is cloud computing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty much what we're talking about here With

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<v Speaker 1>streaming video. The video is unless you're down noting it

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<v Speaker 1>to a device like we were talking about earlier. If

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<v Speaker 1>you streaming it, then that means that the video actually

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<v Speaker 1>lives on computers that are owned by Hulu or whomever,

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<v Speaker 1>not like if you bought a video from the iTunes store,

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<v Speaker 1>download it to your Apple TV and watching on your

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<v Speaker 1>that's a more traditional traditional as opposed to logging onto

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<v Speaker 1>Hulu and watching, you know, an episode of thirty Rock

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. UM and I thought we could also talk

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<v Speaker 1>briefly about some of the other services that that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily geared towards the thing that Hulu is Hulu. You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting um television programs and and seeing live events

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. UM, but there are other Like

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<v Speaker 1>we talked briefly about YouTube. YouTube, of course is the

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<v Speaker 1>site where you it's user generated content. You do find

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<v Speaker 1>television shows occasionally on YouTube, you're not supposed to briefly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as as soon as someone raises a complaint

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<v Speaker 1>about it, YouTube will move to h to take that down.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the problem is that, of course, if

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<v Speaker 1>someone has a copy of that, they can it can

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<v Speaker 1>pop up in another location almost as fast as you

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<v Speaker 1>can take it down, or faster in some cases. But

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube's men as user generated, as is a video which

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<v Speaker 1>is another one. Uh, justin TV, which is almost like

0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a live streaming video service like you stream. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so these are all different streaming video sites that really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cater to to the user experience. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a way to consume traditional media and a new format. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna talk about a neat little blogging thing

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<v Speaker 1>called twelve seconds. Have you heard of this? I have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of that, Yeah, pretty much about it. You've heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it briefly, yes, because that's how long you have

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<v Speaker 1>to You have twelve seconds in order to do a

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<v Speaker 1>video post. You do a video post's about twelve seconds long.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's just your thought about something. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the video version of Twitter. Yeah you saw

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<v Speaker 1>where I was going with that, um same sort of yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nice no ice pounce. I was gonna work clerk in

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<v Speaker 1>there somehow, but I don't. It just doesn't really fit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd come up with some other quicky thing, you know there.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been some pioneers in this whole streaming

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<v Speaker 1>video format that have they've really kind of led the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Part of this issue was really came to

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<v Speaker 1>light during the whole writer's strike last year when the

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<v Speaker 1>when the entertainment writers were striking. Uh, it was partially

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<v Speaker 1>because of the argument about new media and what its

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<v Speaker 1>place was going to be in the future and m

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<v Speaker 1>the writers were arguing that they weren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>compensated fairly for their work when it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be shown over the internet, and then the media companies

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, we don't even know if we can make

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<v Speaker 1>money over the internet. Big mess, and uh uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like now you can see that, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>it's gaining popularity. So at least the interest is there.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not the money is there that still remains

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen. But there's at least a port for it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a demand for it among the mark in the marketplace.

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<v Speaker 1>So at least then the writers had that part straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Writers were saying, hey, you know, people are gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to watch television on their computers. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, Hey, my kids, that's all they use. They

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<v Speaker 1>just use the computer to watch TV. Um, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever turn the television on because there's what they want

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<v Speaker 1>to see isn't necessarily on at that point. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>you even had people like like, uh, south Park, they

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<v Speaker 1>they put all of their episodes up online on South

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<v Speaker 1>Park Studios so you can watch and you could even

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<v Speaker 1>watch the newest episode as soon as it finished airing

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<v Speaker 1>on television. It was up on the site and you

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<v Speaker 1>could watch it for about a week and then they

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<v Speaker 1>would take it down. Um. But everything from the season

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<v Speaker 1>before all the way to the very beginning of South

0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Park you can find at South Park Studios. So with

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like test cases like that, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how it led to where we are now. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have you know, internet only programming like Dr Horrible

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<v Speaker 1>sing along blog. Yes, yes, I'll be applying to the

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<v Speaker 1>Evil League of Evil tomorrow actually that's not even a choke.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to do like suck us all

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<v Speaker 1>into a black hole? You'll have to see. I'll just link,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll twitter a YouTube post on there and people can

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<v Speaker 1>can see my application. All right, but yeah, dr horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great example. That was Josh weedon project where

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote this piece specifically to see if it was

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<v Speaker 1>a viable alternative to uh to to traditional television. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you may or may not know that we then has

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<v Speaker 1>had a checkered past with the television industry or rather

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<v Speaker 1>you know things like Fox or the WB or whatever. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the television industry, right, yeah, yeah, specific

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the television industry. But the the issue was

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<v Speaker 1>that it was it was not always his vision that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to to make it to the screen or

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<v Speaker 1>they he would get his program would get moved around

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<v Speaker 1>really quite a bit, so that it can never really

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<v Speaker 1>gather an adiens. So you would have a hardcore audience

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<v Speaker 1>that really loved a program, but it couldn't get footing

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<v Speaker 1>with a larger broader base, um because of lack of support.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he said, we know, why should we have

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<v Speaker 1>to depend on this kind of delivery system when the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet is there, and we can deliver directly to viewers

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<v Speaker 1>reach a lot more people. We don't. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be beholden to this larger company that doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>care about us. And uh, I think Dr Horrible was

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<v Speaker 1>a uh was sort of a proof of concept, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and it worked. People are demanding more and

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<v Speaker 1>he said there will be more now. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the DVD will have a part four so and

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<v Speaker 1>there may be more even further down the line. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it all depends on what everyone's schedules allow. But

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<v Speaker 1>but there's definitely demands. So proof a concept. There you go.

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