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Speaker 1: Welcome into a week six Giants hangout, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Cress Strawn. My name is Madelinburg, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by Russ Salzburg, Brandon London, and Matt Siitek. Guys, of

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Speaker 1: course the elephant in the room Giants. Coming off a

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Speaker 1: tough loss in New Orleans. The Saints got their first

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Speaker 1: win of the season, Jackson Dart got his first loss

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Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback. Russ, when you look at this game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you evaluate it overall? What's your

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaway?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's only one way to evaluate it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not interested in any statistics except too the final

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Speaker 3: score and five turnovers on a five consecutive drives. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's as coach Stables said in the post game. He

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Speaker 3: must have said it five or six times. It's on

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Speaker 3: a you can't. You can't win games that way. That performance,

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Speaker 3: to me, I think everybody, if you are a Giants fan,

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Speaker 3: you are probably excited the way the game started. You say,

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Speaker 3: this is what we want. You got your quarterback, you

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Speaker 3: got your running back, this is the future. It's all clicking,

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Speaker 3: and then it employed. I mean I was left dumbfounded.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no other way for me to say it.

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Speaker 3: There was not a whole lot of positives you can

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Speaker 3: take out of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you mentioned the way it started too.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like they were getting the tight ends involved

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Speaker 1: early Daniel Bell and Derthio Johnson with two touchdowns. You know,

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Speaker 1: Brandon as a wide receiver. This was the first game

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Speaker 1: after Malik Neighbors was ruled out for the season with

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Speaker 1: the ACL the way that the Giants kind of made

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Speaker 1: do without Neighbors using the tight end, what did you

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Speaker 1: see there?

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Speaker 4: You know, I was a little disappointed in the Giants

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Speaker 4: receivers on this one because they're well coached by Mike

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Speaker 4: grow who I've known since I was a kid. I

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Speaker 4: know about the work that these Giants receivers have put

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Speaker 4: in for a moment like this, especially when we talk

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Speaker 4: about opportunity. But for them to kind of not come

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Speaker 4: down with some of the plays that they were supposed

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Speaker 4: to make, and as a raw receiver room you have

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Speaker 4: the confidence in making those sort of plays. It just

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Speaker 4: takes me back to like the Plaxico Buris and Amani

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Speaker 4: Tumor days where they'd be like, you never know how

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Speaker 4: many opportunities you're going to get in this league, you

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Speaker 4: have to seize each and every one of them and

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Speaker 4: have fun while doing it. And they didn't seize it

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Speaker 4: or have fun. But shout out to the tight ends

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Speaker 4: for stepping up. They were consistent enough to where I

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Speaker 4: feel like they've earned themselves more targets going forward throughout

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Speaker 4: the course of the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some tough opportunities for the receivers there. They also

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Speaker 1: you know, the defense. It was the first game the

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Speaker 1: Giants defense didn't have a sack on the quarterback. They

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Speaker 1: weren't really able to apply as much pressure as we

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Speaker 1: saw in Week four Matt against the Chargers. When you

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Speaker 1: look at the way that the defense performed in Week

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Speaker 1: five in New Orleans, what's your biggest takeaway?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, we came into the season knowing

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Speaker 5: that the success of this team was kind of gonna

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Speaker 5: have to ride at least a little bit on the

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Speaker 5: defense's back, and especially the defensive front the pass rush.

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Speaker 5: So you know, with the guys the Giants have upfront

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Speaker 5: with Decks Burns a dual cavan, if none of those

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Speaker 5: guys are going to hit home on a sack, it's

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Speaker 5: going to be tough for this defense to be You know,

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Speaker 5: constantly applying pressure and to you know, make the big

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Speaker 5: plays that is knee in order to pick up the victories.

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Speaker 5: And we saw that yesterday. I mean, Abdul did you

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Speaker 5: know his pressure numbers actually ended up looking okay? But

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Speaker 5: he was just about the only one. No one else

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Speaker 5: really was able to get pressure. And then I mean

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Speaker 5: Spencer Ratler won his first game as a starting quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I mean kind of feel like that says all you

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Speaker 5: need to know right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rattler's career started zero to ten as a starter,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, Jared Goff also lost his first

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Speaker 1: ten games as a starting quarterback, and look at how

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Speaker 1: well he's ascended. So sometimes, you know, a rough start

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Speaker 1: isn't necessarily a barometer for the talent the player has

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Speaker 1: in them. But yes, it was the first win for

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Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler. It was the first win for Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: as the head coach of the Saints, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a performance I think the Giants are going

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Speaker 1: to want back. But luckily, Brandon, you know this as

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Speaker 1: a player, the first thing you want to do when

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Speaker 1: you lose a game like that is get back on

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Speaker 1: the field. Luckily, the Giants have a short week with

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Speaker 1: a division opponent on Thursday night Football Giants Eagles. What's

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Speaker 1: your biggest focus in this one?

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Speaker 4: I mean, as a player, it's a soul searching moment.

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Speaker 4: You know you're gonna flush this loss as fast as possible.

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Speaker 4: But you were you were excited about the plane ride home.

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Speaker 4: You probably had spades game raided, like you're you're gonna

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Speaker 4: talk a little trash on that plane ride to get

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Speaker 4: ready thinking you're gonna be two and three going into

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Speaker 4: a primetime matchup against the Eagles. Now, what this does

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Speaker 4: is it puts you into an uptight mode. And this

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Speaker 4: is what you don't want a football team with young

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Speaker 4: players on it, young players in terms of the production,

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Speaker 4: you don't want them to be uptight going up against

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Speaker 4: an Eagles team. So if you flush it, the tape,

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Speaker 4: like we say, is never as good as when you

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Speaker 4: rewatch it. It's never as bad when you rewatch it.

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Speaker 4: Now you have to shift that focus to all right,

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Speaker 4: we really have to detail our work to give ourselves

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Speaker 4: a chance on Thursday night. So now you just it's

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Speaker 4: it's these these short weeks, you just you flush and

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Speaker 4: you refocus.

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Speaker 6: But with a team full of young guys and.

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Speaker 4: Especially a team full of guys who've lost and been

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Speaker 4: in this situation before. You wonder what that mentality is

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Speaker 4: going to be like, and how loose they can play,

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Speaker 4: how much fun they can have on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you'd like to think too that. Oh go ahead, Russ.

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Speaker 3: No, I was going to say to both of you,

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Speaker 3: I think you nailed at Brandon, you know, and Madeline

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Speaker 3: this short week. If they won, as Brandon was saying,

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Speaker 3: have they won the game, then they go into this

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Speaker 3: short week at two and three, and then the momentum

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Speaker 3: then they're pumping up. Now we got the Eagles coming,

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Speaker 3: we could be five hundred beating on Division four. Instead,

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Speaker 3: that's a long plane ride home. They're in the dulgums.

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Speaker 3: They know what they did. You're not feeling good about

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Speaker 3: yourself after that kind of performance, So I think this

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Speaker 3: short week might kind of hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's that kind of situation.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, the Eagles didn't do them a

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Speaker 3: favor by losing, because now they're going to be angry themselves.

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Speaker 1: So this is well, I think to your point, though, Russ,

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Speaker 1: if the Eagles lost their first game of the season,

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Speaker 1: they're angry at themselves. They want to rebound and do better.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are probably feeling the same way like they're

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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the deflated mentality, but also they're

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Speaker 1: probably angry at themselves. They know that they're better than

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Speaker 1: five straight turnovers on five straight possessions, and they probably

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Speaker 1: are eager to get out there and show that as

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Speaker 1: well and say, all right, how do we bounce back

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Speaker 1: against an Eagles team that, yes, is four and one,

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Speaker 1: and yes, won their first four games of the season,

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Speaker 1: but did so in a fashion that's you know, Matt,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's not really comparable to how

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Speaker 1: they had been playing at their championship level. Right, this

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Speaker 1: is an Eagles team that has found their way to

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Speaker 1: win some games, but not necessarily at the same caliber

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Speaker 1: offensively as we know of them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. I mean, look, they are four and one,

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Speaker 7: and they have won you know.

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Speaker 5: Something was like twenty of their last twenty one game,

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Speaker 5: something crazy like that. So there's no doubt that this

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Speaker 5: is obviously still one of the at least one of

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Speaker 5: the best teams in the NFC. But you're right that

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Speaker 5: this does somewhat look like an Eagles team that's a

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Speaker 5: little more susceptible than you know the team that we

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Speaker 5: matched up against last year, and I know, you know

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Speaker 5: obviously with with Saquon Barkley and Philadelphia, that is going

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Speaker 5: to be a big storyline every time these two teams play,

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Speaker 7: But the Giants, one of.

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Speaker 5: The things they actually did do well against the Saints

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Speaker 5: is they did contain the run game kind of for

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Speaker 5: the first time all season. Now, granted, the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 5: have a much better rushing attack than the New Orleans Saints,

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Speaker 5: but nonetheless, eighty eight yards on thirty carries, that's under

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Speaker 5: three yards per carry. That part is great for me.

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Speaker 5: The thing that I'm I guess a little more concerned about,

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Speaker 5: because that has been you know, you talk about a

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Speaker 5: big storyline in Philadelphia. They obviously had some displeasure with

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Speaker 5: and it seemed like Jalen Hurts was sort of trying

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Speaker 7: Yesterday. DeVante Smith had.

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Speaker 2: A great game.

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Speaker 5: AJ Brown still not quite you know, the numbers were

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Speaker 5: accustomed to seeing from him. I feel like come Thursday night,

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Speaker 5: the Eagles might again want to get those two going,

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Speaker 5: and considering the performance of the Giant secondary against a

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Speaker 5: much less talented Saints pass catching group, that's where I.

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Speaker 7: Would have my focus on come Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: And Madeline, I'm glad Matt, I'm glad you brought that

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Speaker 4: up because it's a different type of angry that both

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Speaker 4: teams are going in. Like for the Eagles, you're angry

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Speaker 4: at yourself for yes, losing that game, but you also

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Speaker 4: had a chance to win that game against Denver, so you're.

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Speaker 6: Looking at it.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like that Falcons loss they had last year

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Speaker 4: early in the season when they went for it and

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Speaker 4: Saquon dropped that ball.

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Speaker 6: Then they went on a run after that.

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Speaker 4: For the Giants, it's a different type of angry and Russ,

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Speaker 4: you can back me up on this one because now

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Speaker 4: it's not an angry like you're it's a you're hungry.

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Speaker 6: It's now you're you're you're having to have the perfect hunt.

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Speaker 4: You're going in and you're thinking like, Okay, if I

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Speaker 4: drop a ball, does this mean the game is over?

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Speaker 6: No? Not not.

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Speaker 4: That's not how the Eagles are going into this. So

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you talked about Matt how they stopped the run.

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Speaker 4: Now they got to shore up the outsides on the perimeter,

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Speaker 4: and that's where it's Vince Raller had kind of alluded to.

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Speaker 4: That's where the Saints going to an attack and try

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Speaker 4: and create some sort of big play. So for the Giants,

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Speaker 4: play off of that, be angry, but also still allow

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Speaker 4: yourself to be loose and have fun back there on

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Speaker 4: that secondary because you are going up against two top

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Speaker 4: tier wide receivers. But if you can make plays on

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Speaker 4: them like you did in the Chargers game a couple

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Speaker 4: of times in some pass breakups, then you there's that

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Speaker 4: energy and there's that momentum, and that's how they need

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Speaker 4: to play.

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Speaker 1: And you want to make plays on them. And like that,

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Speaker 1: physicality is important in that, you know, with the DB's

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Speaker 1: and the receivers, but as we saw a lot of

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Speaker 1: DPI calls and the Giants have gotten a lot of

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Speaker 1: defensive penalties and it is hard to find that fine

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Speaker 1: line between you know, playing physical and getting a penalty there.

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Speaker 1: And Russ, you know you want to see a clean

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Speaker 3: Well you know you just brought up with the penalties.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that and the stat came across the graphic.

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Speaker 2: That stuff has to stop. I mean, you know it's.

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Speaker 3: You're a young player, but and you're a very very

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Speaker 3: And you know, Matt, you used a word before, which

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Speaker 1: Absolutely a lot of work to do, a lot of

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Speaker 1: I know you know that there's a lot of history here.

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Speaker 2: All right? Madeline, folks, what do you know? What do

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Speaker 3: Back in two thousand and one at Giants Stadium in

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Speaker 2: By the Giants. Who scored those touchdowns Jayson Sehorn, Very good,

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's one of my favorite all time Giants plays ever.

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Speaker 3: Right about a thirty two yard interception where we fell

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Speaker 2: Yep, great play, Very good, Matt. I'm impressed. I'm in pressed, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Do you even hesitate? He was just like, I got it,

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 7: I'm not kidding. That's one of my all time favorite

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Speaker 6: Guess if that's the case, you should know both of them, man.

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Speaker 1: Like two thousand and one.

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Speaker 5: Two thousand and one two thousand season, right, was it was?

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, it means the pund I'm gonna go what Dixon,

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Speaker 6: Let's good boy.

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Speaker 2: I am impressed. I didn't think you guys would get

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Speaker 1: What do you know? What do you say, Russ Salzburg

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I'm still impressed. I'm impressed with Sidetack literally not even

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Speaker 2: He didn't think.

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Speaker 1: If this was jeopardy he would have hit that buzzer immediately.

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Speaker 3: Man, were you looking over piercing shoulders when he was

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Speaker 3: making thesequestions up?

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Speaker 5: No, rest, I just think that was one of the

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Speaker 7: I was only eight years old at and I remember

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Speaker 4: When he started the Jason Seahorn fan club Twitter page.

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Speaker 6: On that play didn't exist.

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Speaker 7: We got it.

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Speaker 1: We got it all right. Listen, Giants Eagles. We know

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm a little older than you people.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you that there's there's not much of

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know how many people are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first one that comes to mind for me

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Speaker 5: I just got to add since Russ brought up that

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Speaker 5: I just need to say that the very next year,

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Speaker 5: the Devil's got to stay right.

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Speaker 3: I remember that, but that Matt Toe Matt told Matteau.

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Speaker 2: Channel nine and I will never forget it. Very intense.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just had to.

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Speaker 5: to add, you know, lak Er Celtics. Yeah, that's one

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Speaker 1: But even like vintage Laker Celtics, like bird Magic kind

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Speaker 7: Ohio State Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan Salamon would get mad at me if I

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: Also, I think he's mad at you for bringing that

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Speaker 7: Hey, you said it, not me.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Dan.

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Speaker 6: Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's the biggest U Mass rival?

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Speaker 6: But for me it would be my biggest robberies.

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Speaker 4: One of them would be obviously Yankees Red Sox because

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Speaker 4: But I think growing up for me, it was more

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Speaker 4: kind of shape my childhood. But I would love, I mean,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't know, Brandon. I gotta go back

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Speaker 4: I was a Duke fan, Jay Williams, Christian Leightoner Grant.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brandon London is a Duchie. This is breaking

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Speaker 1: Let's get in some predictions for this game, starting with

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Speaker 2: Week under under Yeah. I mean, listen, susceptible or not.

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Speaker 3: These Eagles are tough and they're good, and they're the

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't two and a half sacks.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're getting more than two.

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Speaker 2: So right now, I'll sign up for two right now

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Speaker 4: Okay, Brandon, I'll go under because I think Philly is

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Speaker 6: That's their bread and butter.

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Speaker 4: And the Giants, like Matt said, held up or are

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Speaker 4: But I think this is the Eagles, this is their

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So Landon Dickerson, the Pro Bowl lineman for the Eagles,

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Speaker 7: Might be a little bit tough. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're unders across the board. I think

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Speaker 1: going to be tough to get to in this matchup. Offensively,

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Speaker 6: Brandon, I'm gonna go under.

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Speaker 4: Giants are struggling to run the football right now, and

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Speaker 4: beat them. I think the tight ends are going to

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Speaker 6: So I'll go under on the on the rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I mean I could see them. I could see the

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going to gamble and say I

441
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Speaker 3: see two. But if I may, I like to make

442
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Speaker 3: one quick point because we've been talking about a lot

443
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Speaker 3: of you know, if you will, negatives, because there was

444
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 3: a lot of negatives coming out of that game, but

445
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 3: there were two positives that I saw and I think

446
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: everybody would agree.

447
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: When Jackson Dart.

448
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: Fumbled his ball and when Scatt fumbled his ball, did

449
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 3: you see what happened on the sideline? Almost the entire

450
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 3: team came over to each player, pumping them up. And

451
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: you know what, those are two young players. We're talking

452
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: about two rookies. And when you see that from the

453
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: veterans and everybody coming over to support those players, that

454
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: said to me, the team is headed in the right direction.

455
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: You know there's leadership there. People are responding to those guys.

456
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: I just thought that was a positive that I wanted

457
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 3: to make.

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00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: No, you're so right that player driven leadership is something

459
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: that they attribute a lot of success to. Sorry to

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00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: interrupt you, brand.

461
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 4: No, that shows they're still fight. Yeah, and you can

462
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 4: talk about there. This team could be in the dump

463
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 4: after plays like that. You could be you could see

464
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 4: a lot of finger pointing. But the fact that guys

465
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 4: are still bringing guys up, they'll still hold each other accountable,

466
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 4: for sure. But the fact that you're still lifting up

467
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: your brother, that shows that there's still fight left in

468
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 4: this team.

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00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Matt, do you see them fighting for over

470
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: under one and a half rushing touchdowns?

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00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 7: Yeah? I am actually gonna go with the over on

472
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 7: this one.

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00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 5: I think the two guys that Brandon Russ you were

474
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 5: both just mentioning, Jackson and Scatabiu, I think those are

475
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 5: the two guys that are gonna get the two rushing touchdowns.

476
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Speaker 5: I mean, Jackson, you know, he's looked pretty good. He's

477
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 5: had some ups and downs these first two games. But

478
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 5: the one thing that he's done very well is run

479
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 5: the football. That's just as we see across the NFL.

480
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 5: It's tough to handle these dual threat quarterbacks that are

481
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 5: able to rush the ball successfully. I think he's going

482
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 5: to get into the end zone for the second time

483
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 5: on the ground. And then in terms of Skataboo, obviously

484
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 5: if Tyron Tracy is able to come back, we expect

485
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 5: he's gonna obviously take some of the carries off of

486
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 5: Scataboo's plate. But I still think Skataboo is going to

487
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 5: punch it into the end zone if they get down

488
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 5: to the goal line. He's probably, despite what happened yesterday,

489
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 5: the guy that's gonna get the football.

490
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 7: And despite the fumble.

491
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 5: Yesterday, he's still forced five misstackles and he's since these

492
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks, since he's kind of taken over

493
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 5: as the lead back with Tracy injured, has been among

494
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 5: the league leaders in misstackles forced. I think he's going to,

495
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: you know, maybe break a tackle or two and get

496
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 5: into the end zone.

497
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: Well, not only as he somebody who's so elusive as

498
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: a ball carrier and get into the end zone, but

499
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: that man threw a pancake on a six' five defender

500
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: yesterday And scatt is listed AT i want to say

501
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: five to ten, generously but he's a small guy and

502
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: he's got, power and so even if he doesn't get

503
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: in the end zone carrying the, ball he's going to

504
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: be effective in a play to help open up the

505
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: run game by throwing a mean block or. Two So

506
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: i'm going to take the over on rushing touchdowns as.

507
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: WELL i could see The giants if they get in

508
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: the red, zone kind of utilizing that run game and

509
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: getting a scat block if not a carry into the end.

510
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: Zone but in terms of the passing, game let's talk

511
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: about the. Receivers russ one hundred and ninety receiving yards

512
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: for The giants as a. Team, again No molak. Neighbors

513
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: we saw them utilizing the tight ends more in the passing.

514
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: Game do they continue to do? That do they call

515
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: up another wide? Receiver do they get over one hundred

516
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: and ninety air yards In week six against The?

517
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 3: Eagles one hundred and ninety. YARDS i think it's going

518
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: to be right around that. Number but you, know brand

519
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: brought out a good, point you know the WAY theo And,

520
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: bellinger AND i think they're gonna be utilized a.

521
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: Lot i'm gonna say.

522
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: Over and the one guy who's got to improve because

523
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: he might have had his worst game as a pro

524
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: Was God bless, Him we love, Him Darius.

525
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: SLAYTON i, mean you gotta make.

526
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: Plays and To darius's, credit after the, game he said

527
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: he needed to make, plays so that has to. Come

528
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: if that doesn't, come i mean forget the one. Ninety

529
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: we'll be lucky if it's. Ninety so you need to make.

530
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: Plays. Guys this is THE.

531
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: Nfl it ain't. College you need to make. Plays But

532
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: i'll go with over one.

533
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: Ninety.

534
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 7: Matt, Yeah i'm gonna go with over as.

535
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 5: WELL i, mean if this was just The giants wide,

536
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: receivers that would be another. Story but since we're including

537
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 5: the tight ends and the running, Backs i'm gonna go

538
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 5: with you. OVER i, mean yesterday the top three receivers

539
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 5: on The giants Were Daniel, Bellinger, campskatabu And Theo. Johnson

540
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: and considering the talent that the e having their, secondary

541
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 5: we could see a similar sort of performance On thursday

542
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 5: with The, giants especially leaning on the two tight ends

543
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 5: in the passing, game, BECAUSE i, mean as soon As

544
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 5: malie got, hurt we kind of, said you, know obviously

545
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 5: The giants are gonna need some guys to step, up

546
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 5: but this really could Be Theo johnson's time to.

547
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 7: Shine and one. Weekend so, far so. Good So i'm

548
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 7: gonna go with the over on this.

549
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: One all, Right brandon the resident wide, receiver what you.

550
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 6: Got the, Trivecta i'm going over on this.

551
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 4: One and because we're watching the evolution of the tight

552
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: end And RUSS theo is someone we've been talking about

553
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 4: throughout the course of this, season and we even said

554
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: it during the preseason in training camp that, hey this,

555
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 4: Kid Russell wilson is UNLOCKING Theo. Johnson and that's carried

556
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 4: over With Jackson dart taking. Over and as you have

557
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: question marks on the perimeter or who's gonna be your,

558
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: Guy Jackson dart doesn't have a guy that he can

559
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: just look over and, go you know, What i'm going

560
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: to the player not to play on this one right,

561
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: Now Daniel bellinger AND Theo johnson Give Jackson dart the

562
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: best the best MISMATCHES i WOULD i would say right

563
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 4: now throwing the ball across the. Middle SO i say

564
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 4: fifty plus FOR, theo fifty plus For, belly and then

565
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: another fifty plus For Wandell, robinson and it's going to

566
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: be up to the other guys to make plays on the.

567
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 4: Perimeter But i'll go over one ninety for.

568
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 6: Sure, YEAH i.

569
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Think The Theo, johnson as you mentioned, too has become

570
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: such a security. Blanket he's been the recipient of every

571
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: passing Touchdown Jackson dart has thrown in THE, nfl all

572
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: three of. Them and not to, mention they've got the

573
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: play choreography down in terms of what they're, doing in

574
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: terms of the adjustments they're making from what they're seeing

575
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: on the, film and the handshake choreography just goes. Off

576
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: so those two, things the chemistry is.

577
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 3: There Run, Yeah, NO i, AGREE i AS i, SAID

578
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: i believe you, know everybody's going over one. Ninety But

579
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 3: brandon mentioned and we were talking About Theo. Johnson we

580
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 3: had several conversations going back the training, camp and we

581
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: were disappointed in the first game of the, season but

582
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: ever since, then it was almost like he heard us.

583
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: Talking he has taken his game to another, level which

584
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: is good to. See and how About Daniel. BELLINGER a

585
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: lot Of joe kind of forgotten, Guy he's not forgotten any.

586
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 3: LONGER i, mean he's right in. THERE i mean they

587
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: got two very very functional tight.

588
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 4: Ends And Daniel bellinger's story is the reason WHY i

589
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: Want Jalen hyatt to keep his head in it because

590
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: adversity is going to happen in THE. Nfl Darius slayton

591
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: went through all types of adversity with this, team but

592
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: he's still gotten his opportunity after opportunity or target after.

593
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: Target so that's the same thing A Jalen hyatt has

594
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: to remind himself.

595
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 6: Of look At Daniel.

596
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: Bellinger he was a guy that was kind of roting,

597
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: off but he ain't right back though he's been making.

598
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 4: It he's always had done a great job catching the

599
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: football and he continuously does. THAT i can see them

600
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 4: using him more in the offense at going.

601
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 6: Forward all, right.

602
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: Well we'll see if it starts With Thursday night, football

603
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: The giants taking on The Eagles thursday At Matt. Life

604
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: it's a short, week but that's a wrap for our.

605
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: Week Six giants Hang out brought to you By restaurant

606
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,800
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607
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Is Madeline. Burke we'll see you next.

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Speaker 6: Time