1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullomsell, John O, 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Brian Sex Sex Jangs Drive Time, and it starts right now. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Welcome then Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday, brought to 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: you by Jet Home Loans. The Jaguars back on a 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: practice field day, getting ready for a divisional opponent, the 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Houston Texans come into town on Sunday, and this the game. 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Brying about three weeks ago we said, all right, this 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: is a winnable game with everything going on this week, 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel that way anymore. Well, I mean, if 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: you wanted to be slightly sarcastic, well, they've scored thirteen 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: points in the last two games, the Jaguars of Sport seven. 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, both teams have been shut out 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: in the last two weeks, the Jaguars by the Titans 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: and the the Texans by the Colts. So yes, it's 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: absolutely winnable game. How does that mean they're going to 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: win it? No, there's not enough consistency from this football 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: team to be able to say that about any team. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: But it's probably it's probably it's the most winnable game 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: left on the schedule. Well, unfortunately we have reached the 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 1: point where it takes another bad team, which is always 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: a bad team doing they have a chance. The Texans 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: have been outscored by fifty one points the last two weeks. 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Jag was the best scored by fifty, so you know 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: there there are relatively equal I'm not gonna sit there 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: and shade that like that's a good thing. Maybe they 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: win the game Sunday, maybe they don't. I at this point, 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: does winning on Sunday make you feel like they're good? No? 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, go win, but I don't feel like it. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: It Uh, what doesn't change? Hold on the narrative on 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: this team unless they win their last four doesn't change. 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: I would agree, But if they went on Sunday and 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Trevor has a solid outing, that's different that I feel 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: good about him, which is which this whole season was 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: about him anyway. It was about getting him ready to 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: go it does. I think he has to sustain it 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: after I totally agree. But don't you think, especially after 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: this week, that it would be good for people to 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: go okay, I wouldn't be bad, certainly. I actually there's 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: a big difference between would be good and wouldn't be bad? 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: And I think it would be good. So we'll see 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: if they can do it all right. That leads us 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: right into big things. Big thing one is winning. What 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: would a win do for this team? With all the 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: drama of this week we've heard winning cures everything doesn't 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: cure this. In order to win, you have to have 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: a better offense, and that all starts with the play caller. No, no, 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: I I thought about, how did best support our play caller? 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: Um um the you know the support. My job is 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: support the coordinators on both sides of the ball. I've 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: never really done that. I'm not saying I don't believe 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: in it. I don't think if I thought that would 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: help us win a game, I would do it. Schottenheimer 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: and Brian Schottenheimer and and Barill Bevil work coming hand 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: and hand hand in hand, or the dialogue guys on 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: the headsets. So no, my job is support him and 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: by the way, to get some offensive product it against Houston. 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Big thing too is progress. Is there enough time in 58 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: a season for this team to finish strong? Four weeks 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: left to winnable games like we talked about with the 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Texans and the Jets. If you win those, do you 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: feel better about this year? That's the big question that 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. Big thing three is tracking 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Is it a wasteful season at this point 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: or is there still things to come from the rookie quarterback. 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: One touchdown in six weeks really hurts, and there's worry 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: if you're doing more harm than good at this point. Sure, 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: don't worry about about four years about oh James Mentellia. 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: We're about Marvin Jones mentality because that's reality, which you 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: just said, reality, reality of an happening, reality of the 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: code when you work so freaking hard is something and 71 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: it's not astute. So that's an absolute that half that's 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: what happens. And I have experienced that some of his 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: other stuff stories and I've never heard of that kind 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: of stuff in my life, but I have heard about 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: frustration because every coach, every athlete of double crust crazy. 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: The question was, is Trevor Lawrence frustrated right now? And 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: Coach Meyer was honest, yeah, and he should be with 78 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: everything going on right now. How could you not be frustrated. 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting, Um, he's had so much success in his 80 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: football career. I wonder when was the last time he 81 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: was frustrated. Right, Let me get frustrated if your team 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: isn't playing well against Michigan, or if your team is 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: losing to Georgia or something like that. But this is 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: a whole new level of frustration. He lost nine games 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: in seven years at Ohio State. He's lost eleven games 86 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: in his first year in the NFL. So when he 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: talks about athletes getting frustrated, I wonder how much he's 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: had to endure. Uh, in the programs that he's been 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: a part of, Utah, Florida and Ohio State, which have 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: done nothing but wins since the mid nineties. Well, I 91 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: DoD he's experienced anything like this because you can look 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: at his record and say that he hasn't. And in 93 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: in college with the programs where he was, you could 94 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: will your way through that. That's not possible in the 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: NFL with this roster. So it's a complete different dynamic 96 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: he has to face. You know, as far as the 97 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: big things, it would be great to win these two games. Uh, Realistically, 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: if they win these two and go ahead and get 99 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: shell the last two, then you're better than some bad 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, which is not what they wanted 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: to be at this point, I don't worry about Trevor's 102 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: mentality long term. I think at this point it's probably 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: realistic to say, whatever happens, I believe in his talent. 104 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I believe this will not break him. But there's nothing 105 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: about the last ten weeks, even with improved play, where 106 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: I think you will be able to look at this 107 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: and say, Wow, he progressed. I think it'll be a 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna feel like starting over in the off season. 109 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: At this point, however, the only way that you do 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: him any harm is if he gets hurt right right, 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean the things that he is learning intellectually, when 112 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: he goes back and watches the tape and figures things 113 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: out and knows now what to look for, how a 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: defense is attacking, you know, whatever they're doing conceptually on offense. 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: That's all have been a bit. As long as he 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: stays healthy into the off season and doesn't have to 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: spend time recovering from a surgery or recovering from an 118 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: injury that costs in time you know, preparing and O 119 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: t a s in minicamp. You can't hurt him at all. 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: UM winning and I've got thought on this, on on 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: this or that, UM I'm not as concerned about the 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: outcome as I am about, you know, evaluating some players. 123 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I need to know who I You know, can I 124 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: see anything from Caleb and Chase under Is he just 125 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: a bust? Right? Um? Can the running game? You know? What? 126 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Have I got on the offensive line that I can 127 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: that I can go forward with? Can I learn something? 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Do I keep Cam Robinson? Am I gonna move Jawan 129 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: Taylor to guard? Oh? The last four weeks or about that? Right? 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: Not necessarilyout winning, However, the last years have been about 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, draft position. Screw that. If I can win, 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I wanna win. Uh. I said about Trevor, I believe 133 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: it absolutely hard that he is going to be great. 134 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't think these last ten weeks have broken him. 135 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: I look at the last of games before the bye, 136 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: and I know the kid can play. I just feel 137 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: like right now, with the way the offense is, I 138 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: don't see anything right now that's going to make me 139 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: feel better about him. But I know from those three 140 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: games that he can play. I just think it's been 141 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: broken for the last ten weeks. I talked to a 142 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: guy yesterday, buddy of mine who's been he's retired, but 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: he was in personnel for twenty five years in the NFL, 144 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: and he's watched Trevor and he has no doubt that 145 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: he's the same kid that he put number one as 146 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: he did his own private evaluations last spring. Number one 147 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: thinks the kid is going to be a star. Thinks 148 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: he's got nothing to work with, nothing, And he said 149 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: that with emphasises nothing right. He doesn't think of anything 150 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: of the receivers that they've got here, or the tight 151 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: ends or the running backs. He says, it's just that kid. Okay, 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: well that's one person's opinion. But I value it from 153 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback perspective because I like you, John. I saw 154 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: things this year that told me he's got it. And 155 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: when it was functioning, he was improving. He improved the 156 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: last weeks for the bye. Then Jay Rob got hurt. 157 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: It's been broken ever since. I mean that sort of 158 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: the nutgraph of the season to me. Yeah, and then 159 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: we talked about it basically ever since after the buys. 160 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: You can't really judge him right now, so that's when 161 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: you hear all these negative comments. How are you judging 162 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: his play right now? With what he has to work 163 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: with him? We see those flash throws like the first 164 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: download to the quand Tribe. Well last week and go 165 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: all right, he still got it. Within the context of 166 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: the season. He has not played well the last teams. 167 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: He did not play well the other day. But I 168 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: just feel like there's so much going on he's trying 169 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: to make up for the other day. Looked like a 170 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: desperate kid trying to make something happen the second And 171 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: I get that right. If you played in yards up 172 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: and down the field, Absolutely, there's nowhere to go. And 173 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: this is sort of a one off. He's a competitor. 174 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: He wants to win, and so the frustration that comes, 175 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna make crazy throws here and there, 176 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: trying to make a play. Yeah, I can't blame him. 177 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: I discounted all at this point because he's got nothing 178 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: to work with. Absolutely, and that is big things when 179 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: we come back and inside look at the Houston Texans. 180 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty from Texans dot com joins us up next 181 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drive Time. 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We're 191 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: there about that time. No. I mean sadly it's been 192 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: that time for a couple of weeks, Um, But I 193 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: have always been a guy that is, when you're out 194 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: of it, don't worry about a win or two here 195 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: in this member right, put yourself in a position to 196 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: grab a player. Um, I'd rather have the four wins. 197 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: It's not likely, but I would rather have this team 198 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: because I've been selling the idea that finishing strong has 199 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: been the goal for this team all season long. Finished strong, finishedrong, 200 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: get better as the season goes along, And I'm not 201 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: sure there's enough time. As you mentioned, John, if you 202 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: won all four games and you beat the Patriots in Boston, 203 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: and you beat the Colts here on the final Sunday 204 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: of the season, I'm not sure you could still say 205 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: that we finished strong, but the perception would be that 206 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: you finished strong, people would have something they could hang 207 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: their hat on. So I'd rather have the four games 208 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: and the wins and the eighth overall pick than the 209 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: four losses and the number two overall pick. Yeah. And 210 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: and truthly, we haven't been confirmed this, but it seems 211 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: like that would decide the fate of this coaching staff, 212 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: at least a couple of them. These four wins. If 213 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: it's four wins, if it's four losses. You don't know 214 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the number, but that certainly will be a huge determining factor. 215 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: You're not gonna win all four games, but I'd rather 216 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: have wins. Yeah, Yeah, they need to look good. I 217 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with the coaching staff at 218 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: this point. There's gonna be some change because we've already 219 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: heard reports of some guys leaving. I have no idea 220 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: the depth or the dynamic of that. I'm gonna change 221 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: my this or that because mine was basically the same 222 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: thing as Brian's. UM So I'm gonna go with, uh, 223 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: who's the biggest surprise story on this team? And I 224 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: would say it's for me. It's down to Smoot or 225 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Rudy Ford, and I kind of didn't go this way 226 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: big picture because it's sort of a technical uh question. 227 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: But you know I I think both of those guys 228 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: deserves such credit for where they've come from. I didn't 229 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: believe in to want Smoot before this season. I liked 230 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: him as a person, I enjoyed interviewing him, but when 231 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: they resigned him, I thought, what are they doing? Well, 232 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: what a season he's having on, what a core piece 233 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: he's becoming. And sort of the same thing with Rudy Ford. 234 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: I'll go with Rudy Ford on this uh because he 235 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: was out of nowhere. But it's not all lost. Not 236 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: everybody on this team is stunk. I think those two 237 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: guys stand out well. And I'll give you one, dan Arnold. 238 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: Right the trade for him, the offense found a different 239 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: degree of functionality when Dan Arnold showed up and helped 240 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: give the quarterback a reliable target he could move the 241 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: chains on. Um. He wasn't a surprise in terms of 242 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: his athleticism because we had seen that. I watched him 243 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: last year for Arizona in some key games down the stretch. However, Um, 244 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: I think he was the guy who when he got 245 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: hurt really submarine. Not having that guy. I thought, if 246 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: you had him and James O'Shaughnessy on the field at 247 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: the same time, I think you'd have the ability to 248 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: do some different things schematically. So I'll say dan Ardland 249 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: was the surprise. Yeah, that's been cumulative, but his effect 250 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: was one more punch to the gut for the offense 251 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: that not having him. Absolutely. And I think I was 252 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: talking to Tony Baselli about this a couple of days 253 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: ago and he said, you think Snoop's the best defensive lineman. 254 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, right now. He said he overcame Josh Allen, 255 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and that's because Josh Allen is getting so much attention. 256 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: But it's freeing up Moots to to be that guy 257 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks where you can say confidently, yeah, 258 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: he's playing like the best defensive lineman. Yeah, put him 259 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: in the same categories that I don't think Smoots having 260 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: the year he's having without the emphasis on jobs. So 261 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: I think they go hand in hand. Great, I'm not 262 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: saying is that a negative for your guy. That's what 263 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: you have to have upfront. I think those two guys 264 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: on defense to me, along with two linebackers Damian Wilson 265 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: and and Miles Jack. Uh. There's some guys playing well 266 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: on defense. You don't play as well as they did 267 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday without that being Roberts and Harris, you know, 268 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: but we all mentioned him at the end of the 269 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: game that he was the best player on the field 270 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: for the jackboards on Sunday. He's a nice piece that 271 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: you can work with two bigger all is lost. There 272 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: are pieces you can build around, including Walker Little and 273 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Andre Cisco. Which of these two guys do you want 274 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: to see more of these final four games. I have 275 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: to go with Walker Little on this because I think 276 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: there's still some this or that about if you're gonna 277 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: pay Cam Robinson and if you are gonna pay Cam Robinson, 278 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna let Cam Robinson go. You need to 279 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: have confidence in the way Walker Little can play on 280 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: game days. So I'm gonna pay attention to that. But 281 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: Andre Cisco is another guy. Do you want to see 282 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: more from him? I want to see more Cisco. Uh. 283 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: This team has six takeaways six in the last five games. 284 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: They have one right and eleven turnovers. Cisco is a 285 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: guy who had thirteen takeaways in his time at Syracuse. 286 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: They brought him in and they touted the fact that 287 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: this was a guy who had a nose for the ball. 288 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: So from my perspective, I'd like to see that the 289 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: final four games. Um, they need three takeaways in the 290 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: final four games to avoid the dubious record of fewest 291 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: takeaways by a team in a single season in NFL history. 292 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Give me Cisco and let's see if he can take 293 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: it away. I know you might not favor that, John 294 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: because of your guy Doey, but I want to I 295 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: want to see more of Cisco, you know. I think 296 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: we need to see more of both of them. Are 297 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: the last last four games. I haven't had a problem 298 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: with it so far because it's in the course of 299 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: the season, with a month left, you put those guys in, 300 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: you can get a feel for what they are. Um, 301 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: So I think both of them about the same. I'll 302 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: go with Little in this sense because it's gonna be 303 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: fascinating to me. And you've alluded to this, Brian. Uh, 304 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: if you want to see Walker Little putting him in, 305 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: then what does he mean? There's multiple directions you can go. Uh, 306 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: do you put him in at a right tackle? Do 307 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: you put him in at left and move Cam to right. 308 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the movie because you 309 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: don't not protect Trevor. But then, what does it all 310 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: means putting him in there? I mean you're moving a 311 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: guy off the team. Just putting him in there mean 312 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: you're moving a guy over, meaning Juwan. So there's a 313 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: lot of dynamics there. Uh. The other side of this 314 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: is there's plenty of guys like Cisco and Little who 315 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: don't play very much at all his rookies because they're 316 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: playing for contending teams who come in their second year. 317 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: If you can play, you can play. This is more 318 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: really an appeasing of fans than it is anything else, 319 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: because these guys can come in and play. It'd be 320 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: great to get experienced, but if they're good players, they'll 321 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: be fine next year without playing. But I get that 322 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: fans want to see. I get the little thing because 323 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him at right tackle. Juwan Taylor 324 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: looks like he can be a road greater. I think 325 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: he's a good player. I just don't think he's a tackle. 326 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see Little over there and and 327 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: move Juwan inside and move BArch over to the left side. 328 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Because normal is not coming back next year, right, Um, 329 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: if you're gonna change things, and they're not because they 330 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: gotta protect the quarterback. But in an ideal world, I'd 331 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: love to see that. Yeah, And that helps you with 332 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: the decision of Cam Robinson. If Walker Little has to 333 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: be right tackle decision made about Cam then potentially or 334 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: if you're picking in the top five and the big 335 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: kid from Alabama, Evan Neil is there, right, they've got 336 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: there are choices for them to be able to make. 337 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: But if you keep Cam, then maybe you can take 338 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: one of the past rushers if he's there. You see 339 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. There's world of things. Yeah, and and 340 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: and everything we say here they might vehemently disagree with 341 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: in the offensive meeting room, thinking are you crazy? 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We're 377 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: looking ahead to Sunday's game against the Houston Texans. And 378 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty from Houston Texans dot com and Texans TV 379 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: joins us. Now, Drew, good morning, it's been we are 380 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: doing We're doing. Okay, we're hanging in there. Four weeks 381 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: left to go. But I know you were dealing with 382 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: a similar situation there in Houston, So tell us what's 383 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: going on with the quarterback situation. I understand we're going 384 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: to see a rookie quarterback this week. Yeah, David S. 385 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: Mills is he's starting the rest of the way. Uh, 386 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: head coach David Culley made that announcement not a week 387 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: ago this time. Um, you know, both of these guys 388 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: have struggled. But Davids Mills is a rookie. They used 389 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: their highest pick in last year's draft on he was 390 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: a third rounder. Uh, he's done some nice things. But 391 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: this offense, it just does not do anything after the second, 392 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, after the after the intermission. So each of 393 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: the last four losses they've not scored after after the half. 394 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: And they've got to fix that. They've got to figure 395 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: out one of many things they gotta figure out. But 396 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: scored after the half. They've been ineffective running the football, 397 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: and uh, they've turned the ball over too much. Then 398 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: they get a lot of takeaways. But you know, they've 399 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: just turned the ball over too much and too many penalties, 400 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: and you know, they're just doing stuff that bad football 401 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: teams do. Hey, Drew, good to see you this morning. Um, 402 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it doesn't bear much talking because this 403 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: team turned to the ball over too much, they don't 404 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: score enough. Uh, they're not a very good football team. 405 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: So give me a sense, give our give our viewers 406 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: a sense. Do you think that the Texans are going 407 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: to be able to get that whole for Deshaun Watson, 408 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds to be trading such a 409 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: great football player, is the sense in that building or 410 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: the attention you get that they're gonna come away with 411 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: a massive haul for him or is that going to 412 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: be a question mark because of the outside legal issues 413 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: all the way to the deadline. You know, I think 414 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: back when uh Niki Serios spoke with the media right 415 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: after the trade deadline, he he acknowledged, you know, the 416 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Texans are are looking to move on, and there's not 417 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: really much that I can say about it, just because 418 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: of that legal situation and because he's still a member 419 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: of this fifty three man roster. I mean, the Texans 420 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: are essentially playing with a fifty two man roster this 421 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: season because every game day he is inactive. Now he's 422 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: in the building and he works out, but you don't 423 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: see him at practice and he's not around on game days. 424 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: So it's just such an odd situation. But yeah, you know, 425 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: the Texans are are going to deal him, and uh, 426 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: we just don't know when, because you know, the legal 427 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: issues are are are something that that take precedence over 428 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: anything else that that happens here. So yeah, they expect 429 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: to deal them and and we will see what where 430 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: that goes. But there's just so many As somebody that 431 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: works for the team, it's there's so many things that 432 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: are going on that you know, I I don't know, 433 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, I just can't. I can't give you a 434 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: great answer, and I apologize for that, but that's just 435 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: how that's where we are right now, and it's it's 436 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: it's frustrating for everybody involved. You. I know it's a 437 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: tough question with both teams too and eleven, but when 438 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: the Texans have played well, what have they been what 439 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: have they been able to do in those moments where 440 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: they have competed? They have to be with the only 441 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: times they've won, they were plus three in turnover to freential. 442 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Now that's asking a hell of a lot of a team. 443 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: So they won in Week one against the Jaguars, they 444 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: got three takeaways, they didn't turn the ball over. They 445 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: won against the Titans in Tennessee by getting five takeaways 446 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: and not turning the ball over. Now is that sustainable? 447 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: Clearly it's not. Because they've lost eleven times, but they're 448 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: two and two when they win the turnover battle, which 449 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: is not good. I mean usually when you win the 450 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: turnover battle, you've got like a what chance of winning games? 451 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: And if they're even or below water, no chance. They're 452 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: oh and nine when it comes to that. So they've 453 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to get a lot 454 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: of takeaways, not turn the ball over, and then they 455 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: can win. What they did well against Jacksonville, they they 456 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: didn't run the ball effectively, but they were able to 457 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: get that lead and they were able to run it 458 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, they only got about three and 459 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: a half yards and carry in that Week one victory, 460 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: but they were able to run it about thirty eight 461 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: forty times. So if you're doing that, you're sitting on 462 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: a lead and you're you're doing okay. But that's the 463 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: big thing that stood out to me this year. They 464 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: the only two times they won, they were plus three. 465 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: And that's that's asking a heck of a lot of 466 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: of your of your team. You know this, the offense 467 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: is turned the ball over a whole lot this year, 468 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: but the defense is still not. In those takeaways. Love 469 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: Smith's crew um is like ninth in the NFL in 470 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: takeaways this year after last year they only had nine 471 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: takeaways total, and you guys are kind of in that 472 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: boat right now. You've got six. It's tough to do anything. 473 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: It's tough to you know, ask a lot of your 474 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: defense when they're not getting off the field and they're 475 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: not you know, getting the ball back. So while last 476 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: year they didn't get takeaways, the offense didn't turn it over. 477 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: Last last year they were really really clean actually, but 478 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: it's kind of flipped this year and they're turning the 479 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: ball over too much. Their plus one on the year, 480 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: but they've had they had a spurt there against Tennessee 481 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: and the week before that they played Miami. They tend 482 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: takeaways total. Now against Miami they turned it over four times. 483 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: So you know, that's one of those thing you you had, 484 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: you had five takeaways in the game and you still lost. 485 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: Like That's that's what we're dealing with. That's that's what's 486 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: happened this year. Yes, I don't know how electrifying Sunday's 487 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: game will be against two, two and eleven teams. What 488 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: we are going to do our best and Drew will 489 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: see you here in Jacksonville. Thanks so much for joining us. 490 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me. It's always good to 491 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: see you guys and the best of luck the rest 492 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: of the way. 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