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Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Secon Tilly and Tanya Brad and I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio and People's Choice Award winning podcast. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 1: it is Monday. We're pretending it's Monday. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what day it is. Tony is back from her wildly

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Speaker 1: successful stunt on the red carpet for the Billboard Music Awards.

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Speaker 1: You guys, that was honestly the what oh that is

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Speaker 1: so few? That's really nice? Thank you? That was I'm

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Speaker 1: actually gonna put these up up, put them up, put

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Speaker 1: them out at my house. Um, that was the craziest

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Speaker 1: thing I have ever done in my entire life. Can

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Speaker 1: we get some fun details behind the scenes? Um, so

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Speaker 1: many things behind the scenes. I didn't we didn't stop

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Speaker 1: the entire time. We did interview the entire time. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what aired. I don't know what didn't air.

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Speaker 1: We see a commercial, You're still interviews on the website,

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Speaker 1: US it on the news, like who knows. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where they live. And I thank god for Jason

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Speaker 1: Kennedy because I would have been a complete hamster out

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Speaker 1: of her cage. I don't know how he keeps it

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Speaker 1: all straight. I don't know how like hearing people like

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Speaker 1: you watch his interviews and you don't realize like they're

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Speaker 1: they're so short. You have prepped so much for them,

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Speaker 1: and they're so quick that you really only get like

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Speaker 1: one or two questions and then they're gone, and then

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Speaker 1: someone's telling you in your ear to go to the

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Speaker 1: next thing, and then like I'm trying to listen to

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Speaker 1: them in my ear, but also listen to the person

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Speaker 1: talking to me, and then following Jason's I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was just like it's truly and then somebody else is

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Speaker 1: walking up and they're walking over you and your things

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Speaker 1: attached to I was like it was literally crazy, but

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Speaker 1: like the coolest kind of crazy. I mean, you were

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Speaker 1: working with one of the best in the business too,

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Speaker 1: what a great like first time doing something. The best

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Speaker 1: part is like they were like and we're wrapped. You

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Speaker 1: guys are done, Like good job. Everyone's like cheering, and

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Speaker 1: I just start falling, Like I just start crying, and

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Speaker 1: like Jason got really emotional too, because I was just

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Speaker 1: like this was so special on my because I'm like

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Speaker 1: and I've known Jason for so long and I've never

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Speaker 1: worked with him before, and like it was just it's

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Speaker 1: like the fact that they like getting emotional now the

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Speaker 1: fact that they trusted me to do that. I've told

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Speaker 1: you guys, I always feel like I have impostor syndrome,

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Speaker 1: like I never feel good enough doing what I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: and like they had so much faith in me, and

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Speaker 1: Jason had so much faith in me, and he was

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Speaker 1: so encouraging the whole time, and like it was like

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Speaker 1: the best experience ever. I'm so proud of you. I

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Speaker 1: think we all it was fun watching the Facebook comments

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Speaker 1: and stuff while you were doing it because they're so

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Speaker 1: proud of you, you know. I felt like all of

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Speaker 1: your friends, like about like all these people who like

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Speaker 1: have listened to the podcast, It's like that's our girl,

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Speaker 1: Like that's our friend. You know. It was like really

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Speaker 1: cool to see just like the out and support everyone

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Speaker 1: just like rooting for you. It felt like such the

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Speaker 1: beginning of something. Like I started thinking about like Juliana

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Speaker 1: first of the beginning, you know, And it was like

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Speaker 1: really special because like Julia Michaels wrote that song for Jason,

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Speaker 1: and then like she came up and she was saying

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Speaker 1: really it was just like an overwhelming experience. That's so awesome.

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Speaker 1: Did anything happen like when you all were in commercial

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Speaker 1: or something, they were like an interview where you were like, um, Dan,

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Speaker 1: the I didn't realize how cool they were. They would

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Speaker 1: be such good guests. Let's just pop them right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need to get them on. And Halsey was like

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Speaker 1: take the six am flight. And then I like rush,

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Speaker 1: I guess what that party was was like the reception,

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Speaker 1: think that's like they could have caught the bouquet Joe

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Speaker 1: jonas Is wedding reception. I'm like, from now on, I

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Speaker 1: always say yes the Jonas brothers asking I think it's

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Speaker 1: yes only Joe Bros. Only only Joe Bros. Yeah. I Um,

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Speaker 1: it was funny because Ben Higgins wrote me, and the

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Speaker 1: chapel where they got married was the one we're on

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Speaker 1: his season. We married people like he got ordained or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and we like married couples randomly at the same that's

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Speaker 1: like the celebrity like like Britney Spears had her like

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Speaker 1: so it's like the welcome chapel. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's the same one. I went back and

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Speaker 1: say it was the same chapel. I don't think it was.

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Speaker 1: My sister and my brother in law did as well.

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Speaker 1: But wow, it's really cool though, But I did, I

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Speaker 1: like felt for you that you missed that. And we

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Speaker 1: just need to get the Jonas brothers on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Basically that would be really a big deal. When you

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Speaker 1: said Dan and Jay, I was like, who did she

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Speaker 1: say the other day that you were just like casually like,

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Speaker 1: let's get them on the podcast Jon's brothers, but let's

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Speaker 1: get baby rexa. Oh yeah, that seems doable because you're

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Speaker 1: like for sure, I know, but she said, I'm like

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Speaker 1: I feel like Kelly Clarkson would be like down, she'd

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Speaker 1: someone we can dream, Yeah, we're here, um. And then

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Speaker 1: there was someone else that I was gonna say, did

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Speaker 1: but she didn't stop because like it was just like pandemonium.

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Speaker 1: me because I was a gay person myself, and um,

425
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Speaker 1: it was yeah, kind of the first time that I

426
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Speaker 1: publicly spoke about it. I mean I was out to

427
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: you know, all my friends and family and coaches and stuff.

428
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, it was. It was the first

429
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: public statement I have made and it kind of it

430
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: kind of blew up in the best way possible. It was.

431
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: I was flooded with support. It's a big article and

432
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: people weekly about you. Yeah, it was great, it was.

433
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: It was. It was kind of nuts. It was a

434
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: great like intro into uh, this you know, beautiful platform.

435
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: That that my character now has and that I now

436
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: have because of Grace yea talking about you know, important

437
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: important stuff too. So I've you know, I wanted to

438
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: talk about for a long long time. Yeah, it's really incredible.

439
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny as I was listening to this

440
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: podcast um Kevin McHale does and he was saying that

441
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: he never really had that moment where he would like

442
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: necessarily like came out, you know. He was just like,

443
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: I just I just was and and and I didn't

444
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: feel like there was this need to do that. You know.

445
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because I feel like there's the two

446
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: sides of it. It's like it's it is. It's just

447
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: it is, you know, like you are who you are.

448
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: Why like we we don't have to come out and

449
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: say I'm straight, you know what I mean, Like it's

450
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: not like this big thing. But yeah, we haven't for

451
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: the other you know, other party. And he was like,

452
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't need to say that. And

453
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really interesting perspective, you know,

454
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: because it's like why do we But then I also

455
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: have both voices. You know, you want you want people

456
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: to also feel comfortable being proud and out and hoping

457
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: about who they are and just being themselves too. And

458
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: and that's how it was. I mean, like he was saying,

459
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: that's how it was for me before Grays, where it

460
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: was like, you know, if a new person came into

461
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: my life, we would come out to them in any

462
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: given way. You know. Sometimes it would just be like, oh,

463
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: that boy's cute, and then you know what I mean,

464
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: And then other times it did warrant, like my parents,

465
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: it warranted a conversation. But it was this sort of

466
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: like a long sort of like schmir over the ten

467
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: years of just being out as opposed to coming out.

468
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: But then the issue comes with Okay, now i have

469
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: this new found platform with Grays, and I'm all of

470
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: a sudden have a relationship with hundreds of thousands of

471
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: people that I didn't know before, and we do have

472
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: die log via social media now. And so I felt

473
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: after they were giving me sort of their honesty and

474
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: telling me their stories as leave I was coming out

475
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: that you know, I wanted to give that back to

476
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: them and saying, hey, you guys, you guys are not alone.

477
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: I'm in this too. This storyline means as much to

478
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: me as it does to you. And the visitability of

479
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: the queer community that shown A Land always has is

480
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: also important to me. So that's why I felt the

481
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: need to people know that's beautiful. Yeah, um, Barrett, I

482
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: want to are you we Are you someone who watched

483
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Gray's and Net? Like? Were you a fan of the SHAWNA.

484
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: Land shows? Before I was a fan of SHAWNA. Lan shows.

485
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: I never watched Gray's Anatomy. I somehow managed to. I

486
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how I didn't. Well, I didn't watch

487
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: television a lot when I was a kid, but um,

488
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: and and growing up and not until late high school.

489
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: But I went back and I watched the pilot after

490
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: I got this job, and then I kind of left

491
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: it and I've seen some of the episodes since then.

492
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: You know, of course when it airs before us, we

493
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: always catch a little bit yea, um, but I try

494
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: to watch now. Um. But I really it was kind

495
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: of fun to go in blind, honestly. I mean, I

496
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: was a huge fan of Scandal, so I watched scandalum,

497
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: but for the most part, I kind of just went

498
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: into it knowing that this was going to be a new,

499
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: brand new adventure on stamp on It. But yeah, yeah,

500
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: exactly I also feel like even if you don't like

501
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: consistently watched the shows, you know, so like people are

502
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: such fans of all of the series and Dreamy and

503
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: she was up in their lockers and I was like, oh,

504
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: they're they're admiring from Afar, you know, and now it's

505
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: really fun to be in the middle of it. Sure,

506
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: and you'll go ahead. Sorry, I was gonnask what Shaanda

507
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: is like in real life. To be honest, I've never

508
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: meber I've met Shanda twice. Yeah, we have a we

509
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: have the show runner, Christopher no Off now and uh,

510
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: a lot of my communication goes through her. So I

511
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: would love to meet, you know. She sort of gave

512
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: us this beauty, a full universe that I now get

513
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: to play, and I would love to at least say

514
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: thank you in person instead of just creepily on the

515
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Internet like I do all the time, like tweeting her

516
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: like like part of the show exactly noticed me. But

517
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: she's magical. I've only had very brief moments and conversations

518
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: with her because it's always in you know, a situation

519
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: where we're meeting with executives, so there's a lot of

520
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: people around, so it's it's a little overwhelming for everyone.

521
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: And then we see our you know, our queen, so

522
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: through you we're all one degree away. Now. Yeah, but

523
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: she's she's magical and so generous, and it's such a

524
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: kind kind person. Are you. I wonder what it's like

525
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: to just like have that creative brain, you know, like

526
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: she's Louis Well. Also, I mean the fact that she

527
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: was Did she write and direct um Crossroads Britney Spears?

528
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, did she wrote it? She wrote it,

529
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:59,239
Speaker 1: But I didn't know. I never saw that. It's an

530
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: experience Tarn Manning. Yeah, I don't know. Oh my god,

531
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: many times did I crossroads? Are you kidding? Obsessed? Every Tuesday?

532
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: You know what I have seen that Jake probably didn't

533
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: realize he was gonna get asked about this when it's

534
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: here today is my kids are big fans the Thunderman's

535
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: and he's Wolfgang on the Thunderbands. And so I I

536
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: asked Chris Tollman about you, because I've known Chris for

537
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: a hundred years. I went to high school, not together,

538
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: we knew each other in high school, and so I

539
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: asked him about you. Said, first of all, I said,

540
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: he's terrific, And I said, he asked you about having

541
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: to sing in German. He said, that was I did

542
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: after sing in German. Uh. In fact, my entire role

543
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: was in German. I played the German exchange student to

544
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: a family of superheroes on Nickelodeon. UM. I a lot

545
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: of times I just said my name Vogten like a Pokemon.

546
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I'd be like, uh, it was wonderful. Um. Thankfully, my

547
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: sister in law's German, so I would text her all

548
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: the time being like, how do I pronounce this? How

549
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: do I say this? Yeah? She she was sort of

550
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: my like liaison. She probably would hate me for saying

551
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: that publicly, but yeah, it was great. I sing a

552
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: lot in German, like yodeling sausage songs. It was. It

553
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: was very fun. He also mentioned if your comment or

554
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: not balloons lifting you up in the flying harnesses full

555
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: on stunt. I was older than a lot of the

556
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: other kids, so I could do more stunts, like legally.

557
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: So they did all sorts of things. Yes, Wolf had

558
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: Kate plus eight hair. Yes, yes and actually, fun fact,

559
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: the woman who did my hair on Grays or on

560
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: a Thunderman's who did the Kate and Kate Bob does

561
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: my hair now on coincidentally, luckily we have a much

562
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: different hairstyle. Her name is kJ She's amazing, but it

563
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: was just a huge coincidence. She day played on Thunderman's

564
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: while working on Grays and I think I followed her

565
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: great and bird stores the last thing he mentioned, Oh gosh,

566
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: birds store, do we need to get into that? I

567
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: don't know. That was my That was my day job

568
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: for a long time. I worked with parrots. I would

569
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: groom them. And you know, this isn't on the this

570
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: is yeah, sadly real. Uh. You know, a lot of

571
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: people say yes, and I'm going to leave it at that. Yeah,

572
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: I wanted after I saw bird Box, I wanted to

573
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: get a pet bird because I felt like I'm single

574
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: and I felt like it could like save me. I think,

575
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: I think you should get a dog. Yeah. I was

576
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: getting in there like smelly and then they poop a lot,

577
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: and in fact, they actually don't smell if they if

578
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: they smell, it means they're sick. So really it's a

579
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: good thing. They don't smell at all. Their poop is

580
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: very clean. Uh, can we say yeah, no, No, they

581
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: actually smell great. But they bite and they scratch and

582
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: they scream and they're loud, and they have lots of anxiety,

583
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: and I'm realizing I'm not doing great people. I'm sorry

584
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: to my old boss. Did everyone go by a bird? Then, Barrett,

585
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: you were on the left episode of thirty Rock. I

586
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: was she was alive the Lemon, the great granddaughter of

587
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Liz Lemon when they flashed forward it at the end

588
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: of that last scene of thirty Rocks. Yeah. I was

589
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: a huge fan of that show, and um, when I

590
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: got there, I just knew when I went in an

591
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: audition I was not going to get that job. I

592
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: saw a woman out there who looked like like they

593
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: were looking for a biracial actress, and I saw a

594
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: woman who looked like a biracial and I was like,

595
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: oh God, I'm not. But I think watching all of

596
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: thirty Rock multiple times by the time I had gotten

597
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: to that audition really trained me. Well, so so you

598
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: were able to act in the style you think they wanted. Well,

599
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: they did want me to do a little bit of

600
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: a of a Liz Lemon thing, you know when even

601
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: though it didn't ultimately that's not how they directed that scene.

602
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I got this in the back right,

603
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I've seen enough and yeah, so that was a that

604
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: was a dream come true. That was my first, my

605
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: first television job ever. Wow it Yeah, I was like,

606
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: it's all downhill for me so certain. I was like,

607
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm never going to work again. But that's okay. I

608
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: did what I came here to do. But you are

609
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: are you originally from New York because you were on Broadway? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

610
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: I have a theater background. I moved to New York

611
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: when I was about uh, from Chicago, but I was

612
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: born in Minnesota. Midwestern. We're both Midwesterners, which is awesome.

613
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Where are you from, Ohio? I'm Wisconsin. They're Louisiana and

614
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: southern California, so they don't get it, um, but yeah

615
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: I did. I've done a decent amount of theater and

616
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: I just moved out here to l A when I

617
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: got this job, so I'm still sort of a newbie.

618
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: I was going to say, that's a huge I mean,

619
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: not even just from Broadway to I don't even know

620
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: a series, but ye, TV television totally on the same lot.

621
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: We don't. We're a little bit. Yeah, we're closed up closest, Yes,

622
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: back and forth, they shuttle people back, and Beck and

623
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: I are going to show up in and try to

624
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: be just as honestly told us, told us I could

625
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: do it honestly. But we're see here's the It goes

626
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: like this. We either walk on and no one says anything,

627
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: we get on the show or on the set, or

628
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: we get arrested or the problem is half the cast

629
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: knows you now, So like we're gonna know we have

630
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: a strong not like we've met quite a bit of

631
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: the cast. Yes, Camilla, Jason, George, Janine Us, Yes, we

632
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: have um and we met. I guarantee if we brought

633
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: up for what we gotta do is just make you

634
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: guys like a patient on the show and like you

635
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: like really good, like almen, God that you brought it

636
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: up and we didn't have to. This is my actual

637
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: hard pitch. Are you listening to you don't actually irked?

638
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Our pickle is like two episodes ago when they were

639
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: doing like Maggie was doing a podcast and and Weber

640
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: was like, what the like summing in should have been

641
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: the likes filed reference to scrubbing Andy. It's Bob and Tom,

642
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: we get you see what you're doing. We feel seen.

643
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: We feel what you've done. We appreciate it. Yeah, man

644
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: missed opportunities, Like I was like that was the perfect

645
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: slide and right there. But we're even happy just being like,

646
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: well we'd rather not be dead extras. But yeah, we

647
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: used to say that's how they're like number one, keep

648
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: your eyes close, you're dead. But yeah, I mean we've

649
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: brought this up to everyone and no one seems like

650
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: totally creeped out. Yet in fact, we've gotten more encouragement

651
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: than like saying no. That's why I really because Camilla

652
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: was very much like I honestly think if you showed

653
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: up you like nobody would know the difference if you

654
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: just if you just like walked on it. Hospitals on

655
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: the lot too, right, So yeah they are on the lot,

656
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: but they're like in this big building and we never

657
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: see I call at the Charlie Chocolate Factory building, like

658
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: you never see anyone go in or anything. And they

659
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: say they work there, but you know, I don't know.

660
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: It's like kind of like creepy, you know what I mean.

661
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, they must be in there, right, They've got

662
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: to be, and they keep pumping out episodes. I don't else.

663
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: I want enough to go ahead. Uh does anybody like

664
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: secretly hook up on either set? I guess you can't

665
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: tell us. I mean a lot of people on my

666
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: set like have families and children, and like you know,

667
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: they work and then they go home and have to

668
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: feed their children. So I don't think there's much like

669
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: scandal going on off screen for grades. I mean, we've

670
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: become such a weird little family that it would feel

671
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: very terrible of that you are all we do. Yeah,

672
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: we've become really I mean, it's sort of mirrors the

673
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: show in a really awesome way where we spend a

674
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: lot of time we do actually hang out off I

675
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: hang up. They took me yesterday, Yeah, me and Daniel.

676
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: We all went to the beach. Both of us had

677
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: our first time riding bicycles. We rode from Venice to

678
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: Santa Monica. It was beautiful, so the whole it was great. Okay,

679
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to give any spoilers because this was

680
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: a huge episode. And Barrett, your guy legit looks like

681
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Sean Booth from the Bachelor. I mean me, yeah, I mean,

682
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: y'all both work with some hot guys. I mean, I

683
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: just feel like I'd be so excited to go to

684
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: work and they're like, okay, so this is who you're

685
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a love interest with, and you're like, okay, yeah.

686
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: I turned to Christa when we first met Alex, the

687
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: guy who plays my boyfriend, and I turned to her

688
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: because we had talked about who was going to play

689
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: my love interest for you know, the whole summer before.

690
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: And I just go to her and I'm go, is

691
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: it gonna work? But is it weird to film that? Like,

692
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: it's not. It's like it's not as like sexy as

693
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: you wanted to be. No, it's not set, it's not.

694
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: It's it's usually pretty awkward. There's a lot of laughing

695
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: you know that goes into it. You just kind of

696
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: have to have to go with it and have that

697
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: moment before we were like all right, see you on

698
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: the other side, like shake hands and going more so,

699
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, Alex, do not eat that pizza right now.

700
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: We're about to kiss his hand. We have like a deal.

701
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: What's even more awkward is like in between shots, you

702
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: have to stand on your mark, you know, so that

703
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: they can light you. But when you're kissing, your marks

704
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: are like this. So for like forty five minutes, Alex

705
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: and I are just sort of like standing just like

706
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: face to face, being like, how's your doing It's very

707
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: sounds so uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean yeah, we've been doing

708
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: it now for what nine months. It's like it's right,

709
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: which becomes we just sort of have that thing now.

710
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: Has it ever been an issue for you in your

711
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: real life relationships? You have to kiss other people, whether

712
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: it's on stage on TV. I've been like painfully singles,

713
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: so really hurting my odds. You know, Well, luckily my

714
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: boyfriend's an actor too, so he understands. He knows what

715
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: the deal is, and you know, we can all like

716
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: hang out and get along. It's just turns into a

717
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: lot of laughing and jokes. So you're like making out

718
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, pad from this, turn your head a

719
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: little bit. Is that is that what you look like

720
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: when you're ill? All? Thanks, look cool? They're not totally. Yeah,

721
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: it's really funny. It's great. I think I have to

722
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: like close my eyes and imagine my boyfriend on the

723
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: other side of it, Like I don't know, I just

724
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: did like I'm a tongue. I'm like, I'm like a tonguer.

725
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: I don't have to imagine my boyfriend on the other side.

726
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't think I could kiss a stranger and make

727
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: it look hot. Well, I'm not an actor, so I

728
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: guess that's kind of got to pretend. I don't know.

729
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes when they call action, I just sort of like

730
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: believe I'm Levi and I like forget. They call Cutt

731
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what just happened? You know, it's not

732
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: going to believing right exactly. Everything Levi does makes me

733
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: nervous because I'm scared he's going to mess up. Honestly,

734
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: I still get nervous because he messed up a lot.

735
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: I know, I think know he's still going to mess

736
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: up a little bit. But he's getting better, getting more confident.

737
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: He's getting more confident. Um, yeah, I think he's becoming

738
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: a really good skilled surgeon, which is something that's exciting

739
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: for me. You're hoping the long haul, you'll be a resident,

740
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: you'll be a surgery like you really climbed the ladder.

741
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna like maybe like take over over

742
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: for Catherine Fox, be part of the Fox Foundation. I

743
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't fully pitched that, but it's just

744
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: like a lot of soft pitches. We're doing here right right,

745
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: because we've been trying to get on the so it's

746
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: not gonna works what you're saying. And if you had

747
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: to stop wearing glasses in real life because everybody else

748
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: glasses at you wherever you go, you know, spoiler alert,

749
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: I actually have a really good eyes. So they just

750
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: did that for the characters all acting like I did.

751
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: I picked out the glasses, but they're they're like just glass,

752
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: just to nerd you up a little bit. I guess

753
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: it's the idea. Originally, I think it was. I I

754
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: think the original storyline that I came on the show

755
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: was that an intern drops his glasses into a body cavity,

756
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: and that was what it was supposed to be, just

757
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: that like cute little vignette of all of these med

758
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: students coming in into sort of like wreaking havoc on

759
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: the hospital. And that was a true story that one

760
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: of the crew actually it happened to him where where

761
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: like someone dropped their glasses during surgery, so they wanted

762
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: to do that, and then it's the character of Levice

763
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: grew from there. So wow, because you're so good, I

764
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: don't know that baby, Well, we'll see. That's awesome. That's awesome.

765
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for hanging out today. This

766
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: is a dream. We always have one question when someone

767
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: from a SHAWNA. Lanchow comes on, if you got to

768
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: choose not saying that you're going to die, but if

769
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: if they came to you and said, hey, we're killing

770
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: you off. Unfortunately you get to choose your death. How

771
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: are you going, Oh my gosh, I'm gonna I'm gonna

772
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: turn into a white Walker, so I can just stay

773
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: in the hospital, still be in episodes, but just like

774
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: be really creepy and icy and just like you know,

775
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: like Denny Duquette into a ghost. So so I die,

776
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: but I still stay as an actor on the show. Yeah,

777
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: I love that. We actually like short diversion. We have

778
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: this whole theory that we need to do a zombie

779
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: firefighter movie because all of our tools look like killers,

780
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: like they just are. We have axes and how it

781
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: wins and they look like they're and we're basically a tank,

782
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, so we're like, why are we making a

783
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: movie right now? Anyway? So that is a great window. Um,

784
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: but I guess I would have to say, I mean,

785
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: I my stunt double really wants me to to burn.

786
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: When are they setting us on fire? And it's really excited,

787
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: So I guess I would have to say that just

788
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: to get her if she chooses fire, do we yes, Yes,

789
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: it's suppressing the wow. I mean you would have to

790
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: be a heroic like ending though, like you're saving a

791
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: child like Stephanie on Grayson Anatomy, the way she went

792
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: down saving a child, burned up like a child. They're

793
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: reserving that. That's great. Yeah, No, I feel like you

794
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: are both going to be on for a very long

795
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: time until we at least get on set might come in. Yeah,

796
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: you can show up in Scrubs too, just like take

797
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: take a shuttle back from Raised Anatomy with Jason George

798
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: and I really want to do it because I'm like,

799
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: even if we do get kicked out, it's still a

800
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: great story. It is. I mean, either think it's great. Yeah,

801
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: but then we didn't figure out if we'll get arrested.

802
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think they'd just be like

803
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: a warning we went back. It might be a strong warning. Yeah,

804
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: a strong warning. We just did to get a drive on.

805
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: That's that's what we need because then we're like we're

806
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: okay to be on the premises all right, well, well

807
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: all about he's like a secure it don't feel great

808
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: about this plan anymore. He went from vouching for it

809
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: to strongly discouraging. I mean, we were like the people

810
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: who went to Pailey Fest and we were on the

811
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: press line in scrubs. Yes, a number of cast members.

812
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: I also didn't creep out like the Gray brand subs

813
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: because the super comfortable. It's funny though, to see the

814
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: like Grays people that were like super into us and

815
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: then the ones that were like scared. Was scared. He

816
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: did not know how to react to us. Yeah, but

817
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: like Arizona and Miranda, like the whole squad was like

818
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: down a, well, thank you all so much for taking

819
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: the time to come on. We we love both of

820
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: you and we can't wait to be part of the

821
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: cast with y'all. And um, don't miss it. I mean,

822
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: what are you doing on Thursday night? If you're not

823
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:15,280
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Speaker 1: so now you guys, is we have a very special

854
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: guest that just came into the o R. Can we

855
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: get a very warm welcome to Ashley Tisdale. Okay, first

856
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: of all, congratulations because the album is officially out. Thank you,

857
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: And we're going to dive into that obviously, and your

858
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: beauty line. Yes, we'll get into all of those things.

859
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 1: But I think what we should talk about. I knew

860
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: you were going to try and start out with this

861
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: what do you think of her being on you and

862
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: Brad's dance video? Actually wasn't going to start there, but

863
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: but we did start the year off with the bank.

864
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: So I just was going to say that I just

865
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: love Ashley tisday like I love you as a human. Um,

866
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: So I'm just very excited to have you on the

867
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: show because I adore you and I've known you first

868
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: a while long time. Yeah, I remember when I first

869
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: met you. It was at Selena's birthday party and you

870
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: were like amming out to Haley's Steinfeld song. What was

871
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: that song? The first one she came out with myself. Yeah,

872
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: you were like you were like going out and I

873
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: was like, whoa she is in it? That sounds We're

874
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: here to tell you that nothing has changed, literally nothing.

875
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: But when I met you for the first time, I

876
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: literally didn't really like know much about you, and you

877
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: guys were so warm and welcoming, and your husband was

878
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: there also, and I just fell in love with you

879
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: guys as a couple. I feel like I was like

880
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: really interrogating him about just like like love and do

881
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: men believe in love? And like all of these things,

882
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: and you guys were so great. So I'm always just

883
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: this big supporter of you and always will be because

884
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: I just think you're awesome. You asked men believe She's like,

885
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: do you have any friends? Like? Literally, um, I was

886
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: just saying. So when I lived in say In Diego

887
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: for a while and I would come up and down

888
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: from there to get my hair done at and You're

889
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: like the first celebrity I ever saw it coming up hilarious.

890
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: I was there like four times a week, so I

891
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: was you would see me there. Wow, I'm in like

892
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: the Land of the Stars. That's so funny. So she's

893
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: you're really connected to this podcast. Like, like I said,

894
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: you were in a Brad and Eyes dance video at

895
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: the top of the air. We really kicked it off

896
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: of the bank and um and and it's just really

897
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: coming full circle. I was really proud of that work.

898
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: It takes Brad and I like an hour and a

899
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: half to learn these dances, and Ashley rolls up like

900
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: literally five minutes of where we're gonna film it and

901
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: learns it and like crushes. It's like hilarious. Favorite thing

902
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: about Charles videos they're very up simple. Yeah they take

903
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: so long, but I'll really spend some time. I'm really

904
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: making sure they're at least I love them though, because

905
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: I think that's like the charm of Yeah, it's like

906
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: it was like fully choreographed. I don't know, I would

907
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: just be like this is so professional now, you know,

908
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: actually fully choreographed them professional. Yeah, it was like professional.

909
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: It would just be like not as fun and cute,

910
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's relatable. People can learn the dance. They

911
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: can and they do and they really appreciate the effort,

912
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, So what I want to do now

913
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: is I want to kind of just like learn about

914
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: Ashley Tisdale because I think that people they might have

915
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: a perception of who you are or who they think

916
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: you are or what they Yeah, and I want to

917
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: kind of get to because through your music, especially the

918
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: songs that you most recently come out with in this album,

919
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: I feel like you're really telling people a truth about

920
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: you that you haven't been open about before. So why

921
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: was it important for you to tell this story through music?

922
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: And was it Is it easier for you to do

923
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: it through music because you co wrote the whole album, right,

924
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: Is it easier for you to do it that way

925
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: than just to like talk about it. Yeah. I it's

926
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: kind of like a it's a long story, but long

927
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: story short is I lost somebody two years ago to depression,

928
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: and so I think that you know, at the time

929
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: when this whole record just kind of really came to

930
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: me out of nowhere, Um, I had been struggling with

931
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: my own stuff for a while, and so I know

932
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: for myself, like I'm just not someone just to do

933
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: something and I was never going to come back to

934
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: music just to do it, you know, Like I was like,

935
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: it has to be important, and so what I was

936
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: going through, I was just like, oh, you know, I

937
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: actually for the first day in the studio, I was

938
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: just like, I don't even know like what this is

939
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: going to be. But me and my co writer, UM,

940
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: we wrote Symptoms based off of all the symptoms I

941
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: was feeling. I was telling her, like my journey that

942
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: I had gone through like the last like a couple

943
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 1: of months. It was like all coming to a head

944
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: and um, and so I was like, oh, I think

945
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: I know what this is. And so really the record

946
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: was like a real like therapeutic thing for me to

947
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: go through. And yes, it was easier to do that

948
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: because it's literally you and your producer and your co

949
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: writer all knowing this stuff and no one knew still

950
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: and then it takes a lot of courage to start

951
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: talking about it. So I think, yeah, it's easier to

952
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: do it through music. But because I was like going

953
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: through that and writing so much and like being starting

954
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: to like be I don't know, like I think just

955
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: proud of who I am, even with the things that

956
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: I've gone through that I was just like, you know,

957
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: and especially with people we've lost. It was like we

958
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: lost a couple of people as we were, you know,

959
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: doing the record, and I was just like, it's time

960
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: to start talking about these things, Like it's just time

961
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: for people to know that they're not alone in their

962
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: struggles and we're all human, and I just really just

963
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: felt like it was the right time to just like,

964
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, as much as it's nerve racking and scary

965
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: and emotional, to like have to be like this is

966
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: who I am, and I've really kind of kept that

967
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: stuff personal for a long time. I was just like

968
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: it just I know, there's something in me that's just

969
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: like I have to do it. It almost felt like

970
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I would always tell my husband, it feels like an

971
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: out of body experience because it feels like it's all

972
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: just organically like happening. Like I wasn't meant to. I

973
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: wasn't like I want to do another record ten years later,

974
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: Like it was like it just happened. Like there, um,

975
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: there's this video. You're in the music video where you're

976
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of like just like trying to get out of

977
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: this like it's very cool and it's like almost like

978
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: you're trying to get out of the um, the perceptions

979
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: and the things of your own head. And it's like,

980
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: I think everybody can relate to that because we all

981
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: like make up these these stories, need scenarios like in

982
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: our head, and like sometimes you just need to just

983
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: like step outside of it for a minute and just

984
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: be like it's gonna be okay. Yeah, I think it's Yeah,

985
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: it's like I think that sometimes, Yeah, we get stuck

986
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: in these thoughts and we feel stuck in life sometimes

987
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: and we feel, you know, like kind of dark sometimes,

988
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: and um, I think that it's important to step out

989
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: of that and realize that it's just a very skewed

990
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, there's a lot of reasons

991
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: why that's happening and it's not actually reality, you know.

992
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: I also feel like a lot of your fans like

993
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: grew up with you in the sense that they were

994
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: part of, you know, you being on high school musical

995
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: and now they're not they're still not there, like they've

996
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: grown with you, so they're going through all these things

997
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: as well, and it's not like like, if anything, they

998
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: relate to you more because they feel like they've been

999
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: your friend for all this time. They've gone through whatever

1000
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: you're going through. They've probably experienced it in some capacity,

1001
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: so it's pretty cool to sure, and I think that

1002
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: it's important to Yeah, I feel like I think a

1003
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: lot of perception about me is that just with characters

1004
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: I've played that there's just not a lot of depth

1005
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: to me. But really I do have a lot of depth,

1006
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: and I am pretty deep and so um but learning

1007
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: those things about myself even has made me a better artist,

1008
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: a better actor, and just a better person. So I

1009
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: think that, you know, it's something that I I loved

1010
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: learning about myself, and even though it's painful, sometimes I'm glad.

1011
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I feel like this record is

1012
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: a celebration of everything I went through. I think it's

1013
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: cool that you can really like be authentically yourself, because

1014
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a really hard I mean there's so

1015
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: much judgment. I mean me, hello, I like said on

1016
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: the podcast two weeks ago or whatever that I like

1017
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: say good night to my like my pretend husband every

1018
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: night before I go to bed, like I'm like a

1019
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: night baby. I got so many messages like you're weird,

1020
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: you're crazy, But then for all the weird one, like

1021
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: all those, I got so many other ones being like

1022
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: I do the same thing, and I'm like, thank you.

1023
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: So it's like it's really nice that you can open

1024
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: up because it's like they still think I'm I just

1025
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: wish we had a camera because actually's initial reaction. I

1026
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: was watching her face. What is she going to say

1027
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: before she can like flip. It's her reactions bring it off. Yeah,

1028
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got to just be ourselves no matter what,

1029
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, be authentically you and like who cares what

1030
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: people think. I know it's like easier said than done,

1031
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: but it really is one of those things where it's

1032
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, you just gonna block out

1033
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: the negativity and they lease it because it's like even

1034
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: if you're the perfect person, someone's going to hate you know,

1035
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: perfect too, So no one is I'm sure she has

1036
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: some flaws. I don't know, but somewhere she might say

1037
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: she has something that has some sort of flaw, but

1038
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: that's what makes her beautiful. I'm saying, like she's so

1039
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: like seems perfect and powerful that there's got to be

1040
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff there to like do that, you know,

1041
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: like you have to like have some you know. I

1042
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: think that I don't think she want to be to

1043
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: say that. I don't think she would want people say

1044
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: she's perfect, you know, that's what it's pressure to like.

1045
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: I mean, she's great, for sure, she's amazing. I love her,

1046
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: I absolutely love her. But I just feel like, in

1047
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: order to be an artist, you are a complex person

1048
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: to begin with. He so, yeah, do you talk about

1049
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: your husband and how y'all met? We love love stories,

1050
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know, do you. We don't talk like

1051
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: two in depth about it. I mean, I just like

1052
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: I know him through people and yeah, and we just

1053
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: kind of we're in each other's lives for a couple

1054
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: of years. And I had been with some real not

1055
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: great people, and he had been with some I don't know,

1056
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: crazier people. So my crazy was perfect for him. And

1057
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: he's just such an amazing person that I was like, honestly,

1058
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: I was a little bit scared because I was just like,

1059
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: there's no way this guy is so nice and like

1060
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: also just the most patient man I've ever met in

1061
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: my entire life. Like he's helped me through so much

1062
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: this year. That's so great. Yeah. Now, he's like, honestly

1063
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: the best thing ever. And I feel like I could

1064
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: be making this up out of nowhere. But on the

1065
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: videos you do where you do covers on YouTube. Is

1066
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: he playing guitar? He is? Okay, He actually is the

1067
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: one who like figures out how to you know, because

1068
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: he like configure, yeah, reconfigures it. So yeah, he's really talented.

1069
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: But he's a composer, so really he he was, Um,

1070
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: he was in a band you know, since he was like,

1071
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of bands since he was like

1072
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: sixteen and toward. And then over the last five years

1073
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: he's been composing for film and TV. He has actually

1074
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: an HBO series on right now. Um, it's called on

1075
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: Tour with Asperger's r Us and it is a docu series.

1076
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: It's so funny and so great and he does the

1077
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: music for it. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool watching people like

1078
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: do what they want to do. Yeah, and you light

1079
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: up when you talk about him, which is like so cute,

1080
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: so cute. How long a you been together? Now? Um,

1081
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: we have been married for four years. It's like, come

1082
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: on that. My dad says the same, He's like, congrats

1083
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: to that guy, Like thanks dad, Um no, so uh

1084
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, so pretty much. Um yeah, we've been together

1085
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: for four years and like I think we were like

1086
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: engaged for a year and then like together, Yeah, year

1087
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: and eight months or something like that. So yeah, like five,

1088
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: five and a half, six years. It's crazy. So it

1089
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I mean consider there, I feel like

1090
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: it was quick. You're engaged with eight months? Yeah, well

1091
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: after we got together, we knew each other for a

1092
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: while though, so it's like a different thing, you know. Yeah,

1093
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: you don't have to go through like the getting like

1094
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: you already knew each other something that I think. It

1095
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: was like, it's really all about timing because it's like,

1096
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: I think at that point in our life we wouldn't

1097
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: have gone into another relationship if it wasn't something important.

1098
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: So that's really what it was. Timing is key. Yes,

1099
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: does he have any friends? Tanya? Was her next question.

1100
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: He does, but they're all like in relationship is everything.

1101
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: Tanya was told that she'd be meeting the man of

1102
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: her dreams in May in tarot card reader. No way, Yeah,

1103
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: so I like this month. I know it's like happening

1104
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: right now. So the we did this thing for Halloween

1105
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: and it was like, um, like a tarot I don't

1106
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: I didn't like actively go to the tarot card person.

1107
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: We did it work purposes and we're sitting there and

1108
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: she's just, oh, your career is going great, you know,

1109
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: just like kind of like not just whatever like things.

1110
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, she like flips over

1111
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: one card and she's like, this is um, you're you're

1112
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 1: gonna meet your guy, and this is like you're gonna

1113
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: meet your guy in May, and this is October. I

1114
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: was like, May so far away, Like what's taking him

1115
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: so long? She's like, he has to go through something

1116
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: before you guys, like but once, but once you know

1117
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: it's him, Like it's like, donkey, wow, that's amazing. I

1118
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: did have actually a psychic say the same well like

1119
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: not the same thing as well, but it was, um,

1120
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: I had done a psychic reading because I'd just gone

1121
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: out of relationship and I was like really bummed about it,

1122
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: and she said, yeah, the guy that you were just

1123
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: with is not the guy for you. She's like, you're

1124
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna be engaged at twenty eight, married by twenty nine,

1125
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: and the guy that you're gonna marry is in your

1126
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: life right now. And of course to me, I'm like,

1127
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: who is in my life I would want to marry?

1128
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 1: No One was like because I'm thinking people I talked

1129
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: to every day, but he was in my life, and

1130
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: like I would because she's like, he's gonna start popping up,

1131
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: like in April, and I'd be at Soul Cycle and

1132
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: he was there and I was like, and it's still

1133
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: never dawned on me. It did not dawn on me.

1134
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: And I don't really like psychic stuff. I'm like, take

1135
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt, like I'm not really

1136
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: like whatever. It's just like more fun for the experience

1137
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: of like when you've just gone through something, You're like,

1138
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: at least this gives positive stuff. And I when I

1139
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: first hung out with Chris Um, I was just like,

1140
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: you know what, I know this guy. Wouldn't really know

1141
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: him really well. And he had just like I think,

1142
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: tweeted something about Sons of Anarchy that I was in

1143
01:00:58,880 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god. I was like,

1144
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, you should come hang out with

1145
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: me my friends and Santa Monica. And it came out

1146
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: that night and I looked at him in the street

1147
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: that night and I literally this was no joke. She

1148
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: had did this. She did this reading like three years prior,

1149
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: so it was a long time away and she goes, uh,

1150
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: and I looked at him and I was like, oh

1151
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: my god, this is I'm gonna marry and it then

1152
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: all the stuff she said reminded me and it was

1153
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: like literally engaged married at twenty nine, So I could

1154
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: have happened. That's what this lady said. She said, it's

1155
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: somebody that I have met before, which could be like

1156
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: a no, she she gave some well then yeah, let

1157
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: we get into the weeds of it. I'm like, we'll see,

1158
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: we'll see how it happens. Yeah, she gave me initials.

1159
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't like did she say yeah. It wasn't like

1160
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: this is the first initial and this is the last

1161
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: name initial. It was just like, here's two initials that

1162
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: they could be anywhere in the could be the middle name.

1163
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: You don't even know the middle name. You're gonna be like,

1164
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: what's your full name? What's your Mom's made im funny? Um, okay,

1165
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: let's get back to you though. Yes, um, your makeup

1166
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: looks bomb. By the way, thank you, Hayley. We share

1167
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: makeup partist shout out, we love you. But what I

1168
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: was getting at was your your cosmetically. I know Illuminate cosmetics.

1169
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: I use it also and I'm a big fan. Thank you,

1170
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. What else do you have like

1171
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: your hands in right now? Well, that's a lot. Illuminate

1172
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: Cosmetics has been definitely a journey. Um. Obviously have my

1173
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: production company, Blonde Girl Productions. Um, I'm about to start

1174
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: a Netflix series, so I still obviously acting, and then

1175
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: I have my music and Illuminate, so that is really

1176
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: all I can handle. But yeah, Illuminate, you know, I

1177
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be this like I don't

1178
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: know what I was thinking, to be honest, I was like, Oh,

1179
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so easy being CEO of a makeup company.

1180
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: And obviously there's a action of like why I'm doing it.

1181
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: It's not just to have makeup. I've had it for

1182
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: so long, but it was also something about I really

1183
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: wanted to create a makeup line for the everyday girl

1184
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: who is like the girl and the go, but also

1185
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: the person who is just like, you know, just doesn't

1186
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: really know how to use makeup like makeup professionals, you know,

1187
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: And I think that when I get a palette and

1188
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: there's like thirty eyeshadows, it scares me and I just

1189
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with it. So all, you know,

1190
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: Illuminate is all about like beauty made simple and like

1191
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: the palets are curated and this is all you need

1192
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: and so that's really like my passion and also about

1193
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: like that, you know, just being beautiful as just being you.

1194
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: And it's like we're not doing like cream contours and

1195
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that because I just feel like it's you know,

1196
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I I just am very much

1197
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: in the trend of more like natural is is beauty um.

1198
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: But obviously for events and stuff you go a little bit.

1199
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: But every day, like I sometimes don't wear makeup at all,

1200
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, So I just I don't know. I have

1201
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: a passion and for it and that's what keeps you going.

1202
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: But it is definitely one of the hardest things I've

1203
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: ever done because it's so different and like so not

1204
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: something I'm you know, used to and I've had to,

1205
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: like you know, go through those ups and downs in

1206
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: a company. You're just like, what do I do next.

1207
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: There's a piece of advice you can give to somebody

1208
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: that's starting out, what would you tell them? It's hard work.

1209
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: Instagram does not get you ready for this. It's like

1210
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: no one explains to you and tells you how hard

1211
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 1: it is. Because a lot of the time on social media.

1212
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: You're watching someone who has put in five years of

1213
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: work already, and so you're watching it thinking it's an

1214
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: easy thing to do. And I didn't think it was

1215
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: going to be like easy. But I think because like

1216
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: I said, I'm so used to being a creator and

1217
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: a you know, actor, and that's I've been in this

1218
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: business for so long. That's something that's so foreign, like

1219
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: dealing with investors, dealing with like fulfillment centers like Shopify,

1220
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I do all that, like I am

1221
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: in it. Like it is not like someone's run ing

1222
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: it for me. This is literally all of me. If

1223
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm putting a sale on my stuff, I've got to

1224
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: go into my Shopify account and mark down that. So

1225
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: it's like when people like, you know, because I think

1226
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: also people think when you're a celebrity, you have people

1227
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: that do that for you, and it's just like that's

1228
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: just not me. And I'm actually really proud of it

1229
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: because as much as it's something that eventually I'll have

1230
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: a team and I'll have like a full you know,

1231
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: like I'll build it up, but I think that in

1232
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: order to be a CEO of a company, you need

1233
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: to have your hands in all of that stuff and

1234
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: know why you're doing all that stuff and know what

1235
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: it is. You know, you can't just be like I

1236
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: own a company and not know like where your fulfillment

1237
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: center is and like who's a manufacturer. You know, it's

1238
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: like you need to know all those things. So I

1239
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: would just say it's hard work, but don't give up.

1240
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: If you're really passionate about it, then you gotta keep going. Yeah,

1241
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: you gotta keep doing it. That's great advice though, because

1242
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: I feel like when you're the CEO, you you're part

1243
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: of every decision that's made, Like you're in charge of

1244
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: every decision that's Yeah, and if you don't know like

1245
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: who's coming to and what they do or like you

1246
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: know what really they do, And when people give you

1247
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: excuses like we can't, you're like, actually, I know that

1248
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, I'm like, I run five things you

1249
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: can do this. But I'm yeah, I mean it's been

1250
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: such a it's been such a you know, process, and

1251
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: I think that's been such a journey on its own.

1252
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: But I'm really I'm really proud of it, and I'm

1253
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: really proud of like, you know the best part is

1254
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: like seeing people wearing it and like really loving it

1255
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: because it is a it's a piece of me as well.

1256
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: I feel like everything that I'm doing has been a

1257
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: really authentic thing for me. I guess you'd say, like,

1258
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: I think like with the album and with this makeup

1259
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: line like taking over and I think just you know,

1260
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of getting out there and doing it. Can we

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Speaker 1: do a little rapid fire on the music side, Yeah, okay,

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01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: and you're gonna just have to answer, Okay, okay, oh God,

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01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: favorite song on your album? Um? Okay, uh vibrations. Dream

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01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: person to work with doesn't have to be collaborator, could

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01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: be a writer, producer. Oh, Chilian Michaels. I just love her.

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01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: She's so sweet her Literally like I love her. She's

1267
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: literally we DMN each other all the time and we're

1268
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: just like she's the best. She's the best. So that's

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: very very likely to happen. I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I haven't ever been like discussed work with her. Then

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: we're like, let's collaborate, but I just lab collab um No.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just really love her as a person

1273
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: and I just like think she's awesome. I do too. Literally,

1274
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: I asked her to do this thing for me for

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01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: the Billboard Awards. I had her, Um, I wanted to

1276
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: do something for Jason Kennedy because I just love him

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01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: and I was so excited to do with him. And

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: I call her and I was like, do you think

1279
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: you could write a little jingle for me for Jason

1280
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: to have to have out the Billboard Music Awards And

1281
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: totally thinking, I literally was like you can, you can

1282
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: tell me to go f off? Like I fully was like,

1283
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, because she's just like I know what her

1284
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: and she literally did it for me, I know. And

1285
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: I told was like, this woman has literally written like

1286
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: hits that of this generation and now she's and it's

1287
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 1: catchy as hell. The thing I was like, it actually

1288
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: got stuck in my head, like how does she do it?

1289
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how her brain works, but

1290
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: she's incredible. That really threw me off of my rapid fire. Um,

1291
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: will you tour? I want to? I definitely want to,

1292
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: but I start the series and so it's just really

1293
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: trying to find it in my schedule. Um, but that's

1294
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: been something I've always wanted to do, Like I never

1295
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: have really been able to go on a full tour

1296
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: of like my own music, So I would love to

1297
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: so we'll see. I think your fans would really like it.

1298
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: I know, even if it's just like whatever, I get

1299
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: out there and acoustically doing stuff. Uh, favorite tour that

1300
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: you have seen yourself? Oh, favorite tour i've seen? Um,

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01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: you know what I have not gone to. Okay, I

1302
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: really don't go to a lot of concerts. Um, So

1303
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that tour would be. Oh,

1304
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: you know what, I wasn't really a tour, but it

1305
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: was a it was a concert. Um. I think it

1306
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 1: was for Julie was there and Cardi b and it

1307
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: was in New York City. I think it was like

1308
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: for Pandora's Pandora maybe no, no, no, no, not Pandora.

1309
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: What is it Panorama? No, not Spotify. It was like

1310
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: something a streaming service. I don't know. I forget what

1311
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was literally just around the time of

1312
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: jingle Ball, so I was in New York. Oh maybe

1313
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: it was jingle Bell or something. I had no idea,

1314
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: but it was like a whole thing of them. And

1315
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: that was so much fun because I got Julie and

1316
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: I got to see Cardi and I actually met Cardi backstage.

1317
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: I died, died, We hugged each other. Yeah, we became

1318
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: best friends at that moment. So does she like? I

1319
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: was just wonder, like, what is she? Just like like

1320
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: in real life, she's amazing. She was literally like I honestly,

1321
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: I've never had a reaction like this before ever in

1322
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: my life. But I was walking to I was actually

1323
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: going to Julia's dressing room, and I was walking down

1324
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: the hallway and then a bunch of like bodyguards came

1325
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: down the hallway and then I saw her and I

1326
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: just screamed. I mean, I've never had the reaction before.

1327
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: I've never screamed on anybody. And I was like and

1328
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: then she screamed, and then she was like and then

1329
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: be like hugged. I was like, oh my god, I

1330
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: love She was, oh my god, I love you too,

1331
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, my sister caught the whole thing.

1332
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: I would have never remembered it. I was like, what

1333
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: just happened? I blacked out. And then I saw her

1334
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: a week later on on a on a plane and

1335
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's gonna think I'm like following her at

1336
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: this point, I'm like stalking her, but I'm like, no,

1337
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,959
Speaker 1: we're like best friends. She seems cool she just seems herself,

1338
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: which I think is awesome and refreshing. Yeah, I appreciate it. Last,

1339
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 1: but not least, favorite Taylor Swift song. Oh, I loved

1340
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: her stuff on the Red album. We just talked about

1341
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: this last call. But you gotta pick one. Oh, you

1342
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: can go probably Yeah, I think I think Red. No, no, no, no,

1343
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: I would have to say no. Red was a good one.

1344
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: That was a good one. Yeah, I don't know. I

1345
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: feel like we just talked about it and like a

1346
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: lot about it. Push the mind, and you can tell

1347
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: a lot about a person by their favorite Taylor Swift song.

1348
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, I guess so, But what if

1349
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 1: they don't listen to you can tell a lot about person.

1350
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: I guess you're not my friend, You're not my people.

1351
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming in. We do we

1352
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: have any emails? Can we read email? Do we I

1353
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: feel like we had an email? We have actually give advice.

1354
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: I feel like Actuley went out good advice. We get

1355
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: a lot of emails about people wanting advice on different

1356
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: someone's anonymous to and that's always a good sign. I'd

1357
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: love to get some feedback for a work situation of

1358
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: going through two of my co workers have been having

1359
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: an emotional affair. I just found out about it last

1360
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: week from my girlfriend, who's one of the parties involved.

1361
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: Both of them are married, each has two kids. We're

1362
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: a very close knit group. There's only eight of us

1363
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: working together. We're all friends. It's not currently affecting our

1364
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: work environment, and I don't know what my place is

1365
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 1: now that I know about it. I know neither of

1366
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: them are thinking clearly, but if so much to lose it,

1367
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: they let this continue. It has not gotten physical yet,

1368
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: but they aren't far from it. I know neither of

1369
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: them is happy right now with their spouses, but in

1370
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: my opinion, that does not make it okay. If there's

1371
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: something more I can do jo that is so like

1372
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like I can't even touch

1373
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: that one. Like, I mean, I think that the best

1374
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: advice is to just steer clear. I don't know, Like

1375
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: it's just that's such a situation that it's never good

1376
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: to be the person knows all that stuff. Yeah, it's

1377
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: like hard to be um, the one that's hearing the

1378
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: details of it. And because my first reaction is like

1379
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: stay out out of it, Like stay as far away

1380
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: as you can but she knows now, so I know

1381
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: my bad advice and my knee jerk reaction was to

1382
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: tell them to encourage them to divorce their partners. WHOA,

1383
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: that's real far, I think. I think it's more about

1384
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: communicate what's going on, like the communication first, let's star

1385
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: head there yet, let's just start talking about what's going

1386
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: on in your life. So she didn't acknowledge it was

1387
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: bad advice before she shared it. I'd be like, if

1388
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: you're having an emotional affair with somebody, why don't you

1389
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 1: get out of what you're in before you make it

1390
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: a physical affair? No, I think I think because it's

1391
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: not a physical affair. I think they need to have

1392
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: a conversation with their spouse and figure out what's going

1393
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: on there between that they're looking at. But that's not

1394
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: anonymous as problem. Her problem is that she's stuck in

1395
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: the middle sees it all happen. I don't know that

1396
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: she's stuck in the middle, and she's more periphery, right,

1397
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: She's not in the middle of it. She just knows

1398
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: it's happening. I think, to be honest, I always feel,

1399
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: no matter what, this always works itself out. Someone will

1400
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: always find out they will always like I always feel

1401
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: like a cheater is a cheating and you're gonna find out,

1402
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: Like I've found out so many things on excess back

1403
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: in the day that they thought I would never find out.

1404
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: And I just feel like, let that let the universe

1405
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: work it out. And I know it's probably hard to

1406
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: be around, but unless they're like really making it difficult

1407
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: for you to be around them, like I would communicate

1408
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: like this is difficult for me to see all. If

1409
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: it's affecting vinment, yea. If it isn't, I would stay

1410
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: I like to stay away from drama and I like

1411
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: to let that stuff work itself out because quote last

1412
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: week on the Seacrest Show, the day you were out,

1413
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: do you nothing will give you greater peace than minding

1414
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: your own business? And I think there's a lot to that. Yeah,

1415
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: I think if she had a super close relationship with

1416
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: the spouses of these two people, maybe I'd give her

1417
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: more of a reason to, you know, step in in

1418
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: some regard. The problem is I think that sometimes they

1419
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: get mad at the messenger, you know, so it's like,

1420
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, like, who are they going to believe? And

1421
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, yeah, so we are our

1422
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: group advice is just stay out of it as much

1423
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: as possibly long as you can do. Yeah, yeah do,

1424
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: or or just divorce just to go to the court

1425
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: right now, it's like, Okay, quit your job, find like

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01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: a startup that for you. I just have a big

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01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: advocate of like, if you're not in a happy, thriving relationship,

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01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: what are you doing? But that's not the person's life

1429
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: a short man happy. But these kids involved. It's a tricky,

1430
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: sticky situation product of divorced parents. And I turned out

1431
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: just fine. By the way, her parents were divorced for

1432
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: eight years, not remarried, remarried and are still together. I know.

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Speaker 1: It's weird, wild wild. That was so wild. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm always like, divorced, fine, you'll get remarried again, get

1435
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: back together, stronger, you'll end up together. Oh man, that's

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Speaker 1: email that I feel like we should deal with. Jenna,

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Speaker 1: I have a huge favorite ask this week. My sister

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Speaker 1: Sydney and a longboarding accident. I'm sorry that I'm dumb.

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Speaker 1: Is that surfing? No, that's like skateboard. It could be surfing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it could be. I think it's a skateboard. Okay,

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Speaker 1: she cracked her head open longboard and can go either way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I used to write along board that was sporting alright. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: she cracked her head open. We took her to the

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Speaker 1: e R and she was having serious memory problems. In

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Speaker 1: an effort to cheer her up. I said, maybe she'll

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Speaker 1: get a super attractive neurosurgeon to fix her head. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the case, so instead I told her that

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Speaker 1: would write to her favorite people at Scrubbing In and

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Speaker 1: see if they were to give her a call. Can

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Speaker 1: we call her? Let's call her. Tori is gonna dialer

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Speaker 1: right now. We'll take the ring, Tori, if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to put it on hold. I don't know that you'll

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Speaker 1: answer because we're kind of calling out of the blue.

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Speaker 1: We didn't set this up with Jenna. We just got

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Speaker 1: this email and we're responding to it, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I think it's skateboarding. I

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Speaker 1: know you're a writer. Believe unless they did, I'll call

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Speaker 1: you back here. Should I play the theme song? It's

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Speaker 1: like her own private version of the Scrubbing In with

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Speaker 1: Second Tilly and Tanya Rat and I Heart Radio and

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Speaker 1: People's Choice Award winning podcast. Hi Sydney, Hi Sydney backa Tanya,

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Speaker 1: Mark and Easton. We just wanted to call and say

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Speaker 1: that we hope you're feeling better. Um and we're bummed up.

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Speaker 1: We can't talk to you, but hopefully you can save

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Speaker 1: this voicemail and maybe like, listen to it again. Let's

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Speaker 1: maybe we could sing our song. Yeah, what song do

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Speaker 1: you to get better songs? Yes, sink started out Okay, one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: get better, Sydney get better, Get better, Sydney, get better.

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Speaker 1: We love you so much. We're hoping and praying for

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Speaker 1: us speedy recovery for Sydney. That's very nice. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was good. Thank you, Sidney. Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: this podcast. That's so nice of you. Yeah, we really

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Speaker 1: hope you feel better. We hope that eventually a hot

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Speaker 1: surgeon walks into your room slash life, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening to the podcast. Yeah, Jenna told us that

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Speaker 1: the neurosurgeon your head didn't quite live up to your expectations.

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Speaker 1: There's lots of other opportunities in that hospital. Yes, if

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Speaker 1: you need any physical therapy, physical therapists there really can

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Speaker 1: be very attractive. Same. Yeah, we should probably end this

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Speaker 1: poor voicemail for Sydney. We love you bad better get better? Alright,

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Speaker 1: a long voicemail. Yeah, one other thing I wanted to

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Speaker 1: imagine before we go. Did you guys see this Facebook thread? Um?

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Speaker 1: This is a woman named Caitlin. Her sister was having

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Speaker 1: a baby and her sisters in labor, So they're trying

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Speaker 1: to call their mom and let them know hey, because

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Speaker 1: the plan was as soon as she gets in labor,

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Speaker 1: their mom's gonna start driving because they live a few

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Speaker 1: hours away to the hospital. Well mom wasn't answering her phone,

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Speaker 1: so Caitlin posted, hey, help, how can we do this?

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Speaker 1: How can and somebody like, wow, you can call the

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Speaker 1: police and if then we go, watch me do And

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Speaker 1: then somebody come up with the idea can you get

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Speaker 1: into her eye cloud? And she's like, I guarantee I

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Speaker 1: can figure out their pass. I think I did see this,

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Speaker 1: So Caitlin did. She got near eye cloud and did

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Speaker 1: the set set off an alarm feature like if you

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Speaker 1: lost your phone, you can just make the alarm go off.

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Speaker 1: So she made the alarm go off on her mom's phone,

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Speaker 1: and her mom heard it, and her mom was on

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Speaker 1: her way and she got there for the birth. And

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Speaker 1: that's like, I think, that's such a sweet little thread

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Speaker 1: that was on the Facebook group and hundreds of people

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Speaker 1: I want to help, I want to help, book can

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Speaker 1: I do? What can I do? That is what the

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Speaker 1: scrubbing and Facebook group does. They help one another Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have the best group. We do not anybody we help,

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Speaker 1: we encourage, We do not build courage. Right, We build up,

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Speaker 1: we do not tear down. We rise above, we do

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Speaker 1: not dig below. It sound like Superman. That's awesome. Hey,

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Speaker 1: next week Terry Knewell from Baty John is going to

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Speaker 1: be on our show. Are you well? I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: think they get the picture. You have to wrap it up,

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Speaker 1: Terry Knewell from Dirty John. Next week, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be very, very fascinating conversation. So join us for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you for a dead I called it last time.

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Speaker 1: You want to call it? Oh easy, Matth, You've got

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Speaker 1: this one.