1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: can visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: playing along with Rachel Yamagata. I'm just playing long Weuy, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm just playing lone Weazy. 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Hi. Welcome to the show. I'm Nourra. This is Sarah Oda. 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Welcome to our show. Today we have the incredible Rachel Yamagata. 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: She's a singer, songwriter, guitarist, and a pianist with a 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: critically acclaimed catalog of very honest and personal songs. 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a great singer. 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: I've been a fan of hers since that first album 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: came out. I was a big fan of that album 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: that was back in two thousand and three or four, 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, I was excited to have her here. 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, her voice is very unique. It really resonates with 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: so many listeners. 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: I feel like we actually first met. 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: I already was a fan of her music, but we 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: met on the set of thirty Rock for this big 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: episode they did about the Just Give a Kidney, the 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: kidney donation episode. It's full of crazy musicians and that's 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: where we first met. 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: It's really funny. I just rewatched it. Oh yeah, cracking up. 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: It was fun to talk about that. So you'll hear 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: about that. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: You'll hear about what she's kind of been up to 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: lately musically and otherwise. And also beautiful duets including a 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: French love song. 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this was great. 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode me hanging out with 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: Rachel Yamagata. There is some spicy language in this episode, 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: so listener discretion is advised. 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: It's not that bad, but just so you know it's there. 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: What's that big place in Austin that everybody plays during 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: south By Southwest? 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: It's like a bar venue something. 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: There's an upstab us, so you were playing at stubs 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: and every A and R person in the world. 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh during south By that year south By it was 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: like two thousand and two. 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: Two thousand and two. Yeah, I think I had just started. 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: I don't even know if I maybe I had an 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: EP out and it was packed and every every hobnob 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: person in the world was there. You played a fuall 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: as gorgeous set and it was I feel like people 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: were you know, you were on the in the middle 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: and then people were just surrounding. It wasn't like a 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: stage or a little bar on the side something. Yeah, 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: and then it was incredible. 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: Everyone erupted. 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: There was some other woman who had to go after you, 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: another artist, I don't remember who it was, and the 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: whole crowd was just ushering towards you and wanting to talk. 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: And it was almost like you just did the coolest move. 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: You didn't talk to maybe you said brief hello, like. 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: What did I do? 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: You turn around, went right back and sat on the 58 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: floor in front of this person who had to play, 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: so that every single person hob nabby shnobbies stayed to watch, 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: and it was like that was the only way that 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: crowd was going. 62 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: To stay in the room. And I was just watched 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: it and I was like, class act. I love her. 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 6: I like that person too, I know that person. 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was amazing sweet. So I tell 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: people that, oh, yeah, it was beautiful. That's so long ago. 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: Well it was so long ago. Yeah, first impression, that's 68 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: so great. 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh now you have me built up in your mind. 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and all these other things that are probably. 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: Not as nice. I hear so many beautiful things. 72 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm just really happy to finally talk to 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: you and meet you. 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm so happy because when your first album came out, 75 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: When did that come out? 76 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: Was it two thousand and three, two thousand and three 77 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: or four? Maybe? 78 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I think it might have been three or four. Yeah, 79 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: I think it was four. Actually, I remember reading about. 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: You and be like who she? And then I listened 81 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: to that album so much. 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: Really, I loved that. 83 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Oh thanks, I still love it. 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: I was listening to it preparing for this and I 85 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: was like, I know this album like the back of 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: my hand. 87 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so excited. 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: Yeah. 90 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: So I've been a fan since back then too. 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: So funny, and we have mutual people in common over 92 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: the years, for sure. I worked with Jesse Harris early earlier, 93 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think we wrote some songs together. 94 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: And of course you know Pete Pete, so there's many 95 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: many a flotation around. It's so cool. 96 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been to your house before also, I know, 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: which is funny because you weren't there. 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: That's right, right, it's crazy, right, it's insane. 99 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh my. 100 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: God, you left a really sweet note. 101 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: I remember that because you guys filmed a podcast we. 102 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: Did like some intros there for us and you built 103 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: us a fire at least he said you built it. 104 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: So yes, I probably did. That's nice. We've Yeah, it's so. 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: Crazy, and now we're neighbors with Sarah and it's just 106 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: like small world. 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: I know, it's great crazy. Well. 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: I love your new album. It's so beautiful. Thank you, Yeah, congrats, 109 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much. The labor of love. Yeah, yeah. 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: Did you do a lot of it at your house? 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: We did most of it at the house, a little 112 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: bit at uh my friends and longtime collaborator on many thanks, 113 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: Michael Chavis. He has a place out in Pine Mountain Club, 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 4: which is a little town outside of LA like an 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: hour in the mountains. So we did a little bit 116 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: out there, a little at a local studio, Utopia, and 117 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: you probably know Utopia. It's reading the Bears full call 118 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 4: I've heard. But most in the house. 119 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's cozy, cozy. 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, cats, rain storms, yeah, how many cats the fire? 121 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Three cats? Three cats of squirrels? 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 5: Nice. 123 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, very woods. 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: It's a very woody place and it almost feels like 125 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: a treehouse, even though it's not high. 126 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's kind of in the mountain. It's 127 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: kind of it's a little too much tree. 128 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: But like I'm always like sometimes I'll set up a 129 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 4: table in the driveway because I'm like, here's where the 130 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: sun is today, and I just need a little sun. Yeah, 131 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm. 132 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: Very pleased to be there. Yeah, a little secluded spot. 133 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: That's great. 134 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, do you want to do a song from the 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: new autum? 137 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Do you think we could do break Apart break Heart? Yeah? Sure, 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: I love this one, thank you. This one was actually on. 140 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: A different album, Oh know which one, maybe tightrope Walker. 141 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 142 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 4: I tend to take like a lot of time between 143 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: the records, so I just forget. 144 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: How many times how much time this time? This one 145 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: was nine years. 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: Wow, But I don't count three of the years because 147 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: it was like twenty twenty, twenty twenty three, Like. 148 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 2: That doesn't count. That doesn't count, no, but everybody's counting 149 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: in articles. 150 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, tightrope Walker came out in twenty and fourteen. 151 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: I think I'm sixteen, who knows, But you've done a 152 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: lot of stuff between. 153 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: I do a lot of touring, Yeah, yeah, a lot 154 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: of touring and then a couple random epees here and there. 155 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 156 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like you're not just sitting around squirrels. 157 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: One question. Yeah, no, not on this one. I was 158 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: on the other one. 159 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 8: Okay. 160 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: If it's wrong, it's because I did something wrong. Just 161 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: know that. Don't be like that. Don't be that. 162 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: It's a badge of honor. I paved the way for 163 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: people who are nervous. 164 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 9: Please, baby, Please don't go. 165 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: Please baby, I need you now walk in the world 166 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: with foalue. It just won't because I gave warn your card. 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 5: No body loves that I can do. 168 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 10: No body May movie Eler. You don't fall. 169 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 5: For me to. I'm gonna relay Apollo comple. 170 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 10: Baby, Please, don't you lie. Don't say it's not all. 171 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 10: Say it's not a time. 172 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 5: Nothing could stuck mill now fro Why an't you because 173 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 5: I again so oh you're you're no the loaves. 174 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: Like you do. 175 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 5: No. But in May movie. 176 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,239 Speaker 7: Helloa, you don't fall. 177 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 5: Fall me to. I don't wanna release Apa. I'm I'm 178 00:11:49,800 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 5: gonna breathe into a million, he said, as world. 179 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 10: You if you don't fault. 180 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: For me to. 181 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 5: June Night, if you don't. 182 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: Fall for me to. 183 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 11: Lie, Oh my god, you are beautiful. 184 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: You are my voice, your voice, You're playing. 185 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: God, I love that song. You just have the most 186 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: beautiful touch on it. It's just beautiful. Thank you. Hello 187 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: piano player. I clank a lot. I'm a piano. 188 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a big like listen back. I think 189 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: I should have been. It might have made a big difference. 190 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 5: Really well. 191 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't like. 192 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: Reviewing things when they've just happened. I like to ride 193 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: the like energy of whatever the show was. But I 194 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 4: think you can learn a lot by listening and seeing 195 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: how it's translating. And I only started doing that because 196 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: it freaks me out, so. 197 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: I know, I'm a little pounder. It's not the fun part. 198 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: It's not the fun part. 199 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, but I think that's cool that you don't 200 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: want to do that. Most people overthink things and then 201 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: they perfect it until it's soulless, you know. So yeah, 202 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: it's better to not do that. Yeah, yeah, thank you. 203 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah you play guitar grate too. 204 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: What came first? Piano first? 205 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I took lessons for a year when I was twelve. 206 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: And then the. 207 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: Teacher who was great, but she kept trying to stop 208 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: me from moving and because I did this at. 209 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: The piano all the time, and I was like this isn't. 210 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: Fun And the t T tata math part, I was like, 211 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 4: I'd rather learn it by ear. I did take music theory, 212 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: but I failed it twice in school and I was like, 213 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: so I came up on that and then but I 214 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: just kept playing piano. 215 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: I loved it. I'd find those empty rooms more. 216 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: By ear, colleges, bite ear and just like meandering things 217 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: new real purpose behind it. And then I didn't pick 218 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: up guitar until I started writing songs. 219 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Okay, did you find it easier to write on guitar 220 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: because it was like more basic in a way, or 221 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't. 222 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: I wish I want to learn more chords because I 223 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: tend to write the same chord formation just because I 224 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: don't know what I'm doing on guitar, and I find 225 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: it easier on piano, know for some really and yeah, 226 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: funny because I like dissonance a lot and I like 227 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: just sort of I have to write out all the 228 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: letters of every single really chord, okay, to know there's 229 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: a lot of arrows and. 230 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: You have a whole system that's percent you. Yeah, I 231 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: try and share it. She published those. I mean it's 232 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: great because if I ever lose them, everybody's like, I 233 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: don't know what this is, it's going to help them. So, yeah, 234 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: how about you? 235 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: I well, I mean I started on a piano, and 236 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: then I think when I moved to New York, I 237 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: started playing guitar because I didn't have a piano yet. 238 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: And then I started writing songs on guitar. It was 239 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: a simpler more because I learned jazz piano at first, 240 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: and so everything had a seventh chord or like an alteration, 241 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: and I couldn't write. I don't know, I didn't really 242 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: write on it. And then when I started playing guitar 243 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: and it was just playing these simple chords, then melodies 244 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: and lyrics came easier. 245 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, crazy. And then do you play bass as well? No, 246 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: I have a drums. I feel like I dabble. Isn't 247 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: that fun? 248 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: It's so fun? Do you play drums? 249 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: I think it's the hardest instrument to play. Yeah, like 250 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: I I cannot. I'm good at tambourine. I had roles 251 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: in previous bands on a tambourine, and I've tried playing drums, and. 252 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: But once you sit. 253 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: Down and try, it really gives you an appreciation for 254 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: an incredible drummer. 255 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: Like I used to you know, I'd look back and 256 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: be like, why can't you play this? 257 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: Or like switch that, And then I was like, please, 258 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: never give you a commentary again, like yeah, it's really hard. 259 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: It's hard, but it's so fun. 260 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I only plays very simple back beats 261 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: in the band. Put some boots, yes, Sasha, Yeah. 262 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: But. 263 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: It's so fun. Yeah yeah, so great. 264 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. 265 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: Now I want to play more drums. I want to learn. 266 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: I think I want to do like a string instrument. 267 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, always to do that. 268 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 269 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: I picked up the fiddle once for about a few months, 270 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: and that was something I really wanted to do, and then 271 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: I had a kid and. 272 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: I forgot about it. 273 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: I got the kids. 274 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: I think it was while I was pregnant and I 275 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: was just kind of nesty and I was like, I 276 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: want to play the fiddle. 277 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: That's amazing. Then I haven't touched it. 278 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: Oh wow. 279 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: I wonder if you if you did, if there'd be 280 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: a reaction. I wonder. Yeah, I don't know, I should 281 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: try that. I don't think. 282 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you remember at this point. 283 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 10: You never. 284 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: So did you sing from an early age. 285 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: A little bit in like different choirs, like school choirs. 286 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: In high school? There was a thing called the swing choir. 287 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: Where you like dance and do those kind of things. 288 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: Familiar with you. 289 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: Did you do what I wasn't in the one In 290 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: my high school they had a show choir. Yeah, but 291 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: I was in like the jazz singers, which was less dancy. 292 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 293 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: I love to dance, but I'm not a great dancer, 294 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: but I love doing it, and so this was fun. 295 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: And then I did music theater stuff and did you 296 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 4: do plays and things like that? 297 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I maybe in junior high junior high. Yeah, I went 298 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: to an arts high school. So once I got there, 299 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: it was very focused on jazz, yes, because it was 300 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: more special specialty. 301 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 4: And then you started playing the late night clubs early, right, How. 302 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: Old were you? 303 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean I was in college in Denton, Texas and 304 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: for two years and I really just played restaurants and 305 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: I was in a band that had a few gigs 306 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: where I sang and I was the front person, which 307 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: was very awkward for me because I was not I 308 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: was not a great front person. 309 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm still not. 310 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: It's hard, yeah, because I'm used to being behind an instrument, 311 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: so I never had to learn that. 312 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: Skill of like working the crowd or moving. 313 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 4: It's such an other area of showmanship that it's not 314 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 4: necessary a natural thing. 315 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: Unless it is totally natural. 316 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I I think I've also seen so 317 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: many people do it where I'm like cringing a little, 318 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: So I don't ever want to do that. 319 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to be unnatural. 320 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: And it's almost like you have to start it out 321 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: of the gates. It's like you can't adopt sort of 322 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: a showmanship style. Yeah, if people start knowing you see, 323 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 4: I think your voice is so velvety and layered that 324 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: that's the commanding attention, I think it would be. 325 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: Well, but I do know what you mean because I 326 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: remember at some point I got realated to Tom Waits, 327 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: and my drummer at the time, Andrew Borger, used to 328 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: play with him, and he was talking about how he 329 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: has all these things that he does on stage that 330 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, there's like dust on his coat, he's like 331 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: stage dust, and like really also he plans it all, 332 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: he's just not and he's like, yeah, there's something theatrical 333 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: about it. 334 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: And then I started wanting to do something like that. 335 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: And then yeah, it felt weird to just start doing 336 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: something very effect like different, even though it doesn't seem 337 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: affected if you start out doing it. I mean, like 338 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I wanted to wear wigs and yeah, you know, wear different. 339 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: I know me too, Like I love that idea. I 340 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: saw Tom Waits and he had he did he had 341 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: the piano was on a platform. It was a wooden 342 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: platform covered and saw ust, so that when he would 343 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 4: smash his boot for the first time he'd hear it 344 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: was like a drum kick drum under it and the 345 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: sawdust would come up and so cool. 346 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: I thought that was it was beautiful. 347 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, I don't know, it's it's tricky 348 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: little stage production things that add a little element could 349 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: be something, or we could just like come out in spacesuits. 350 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: I think I would see that show, but I think. 351 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: I would feel too too self conscious about that. 352 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 353 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it now. 354 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know like David Boy, you know, he always 355 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: changed it up, but he was always. 356 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: Doing something so different. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. 357 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you ever stand up and sing without playing an 358 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: instrument at your shows? 359 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 360 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: Every now and then. 361 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: I have a song called Elephants, and I was doing 362 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: that a cappella a little bit, and that was fun 363 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: because that's how I wrote it. 364 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: So it had a thing that was kind of magical. 365 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 4: And and then depending on where it is, I'll do 366 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: some I'll do a lot of touring in Asia, and 367 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 4: there's a different audience energy with my songs in Asia 368 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: for me, where we can stretch it a little bit 369 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: so that I will take the mic off and run 370 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: around and be a very sort of fun different front. 371 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: So you're like, there's total which was hot, fun pop 372 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: icon in Agent. 373 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: I mean, wouldn't that be nice? No, it's not quite that, 374 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: but it is like more. It feels like otherworldly in 375 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: that way. I think because they discovered my early records 376 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: later after I had a good sort of run as 377 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 4: my solo career in the States, and so I felt 378 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 4: like it was newer for them in a way and 379 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: I could try a little more out. 380 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: That's so fun. 381 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys go over there a lot, right. 382 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: We do all over Yeah, a lot. And I've gone 383 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: to Korea many times. South Korea, China We've been going 384 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 4: to I've been there about like seven or eight times, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore. 385 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, just different realms. It's very fun. That is fun. Yeah, 386 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: do you ever go international anymore? 387 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: I do, but I haven't been anywhere like that in 388 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: a very very long time. 389 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 390 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: I go to Japan a lot, like every few years. Yeah, 391 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: but I yeah, I'm kind of overdue for the rest. 392 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 393 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: After I had kids, I feel like I had to 394 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: sort of limit everything. 395 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: Sure, you know. 396 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well you're a workhorse in terms of so many projects. 397 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: That's the other thing is like p used to tell me, 398 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 2: I was like, you'd get off the road. I'm like, 399 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: what is she? What's she doing now? She's going in 400 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: to record. 401 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: A Christmas song or a new record, or she's you know, 402 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 4: and she's sitting in over here. 403 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm like. 404 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: It's really I read this book, the Patti Smith Just 405 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: Kids Book. Yeah, I kicked my ass in terms of 406 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: like a sorry, I don't know if I'm allowed to 407 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: say that. Yeah, leave that kicked my kicked my booty 408 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: into what it can mean to do some form of 409 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: art every day and live an artistic life style on 410 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: a consistent basis of and for no other than just 411 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 4: doing it, like writing a poem and doing a painting, 412 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: writing a song, whatever it is. And you strike me 413 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: as somebody sort of akin to that, just consistently creating 414 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: and showcasing what you find. 415 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: And it's beautiful. Thanks. 416 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Do you have any other artistic things you do? 417 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: I rearrange furniture. I mean that's like, that's like you 418 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: need an outlet. I love the kind of thing. 419 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, sort of making making spaces excuse me. And I 420 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: always think there's a there's a an avenue for collapsible 421 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: stage decore that needs to happen, like things for that 422 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: can squish and. 423 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: Fit but looks but looks cool. It looks like a 424 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: big vision and I. 425 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: Would rent it if you make it. I'm always looking 426 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: for something to put on the stage. 427 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: Me too. 428 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Well, Barbara Streisen does that. Oh my gosh, 429 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: she has a trailer. It was amazing. That makes it 430 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: feel like her living room. That's nice. Yeah, so you 431 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: do like a blow up version, I think totally. 432 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: I mean I'm really seeing this whole alien spacesuit couch 433 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: living room. 434 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: I don't know if this is I think. 435 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 11: But I think I think they could. 436 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: He just hasn't been done yet, which is me. Yeah, 437 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: we'll see. 438 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not good at sitting still, I've realized, But 439 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: at the same time I want to. Yeah, you know, 440 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: so sometimes I feel like I've done this since the beginning, 441 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: when when I get off a big long tour and 442 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to do. The sidebands have been 443 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: really great for that because it's a way to play 444 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: music without having to think about the next big thing. Sure, 445 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: but also like I'll take a pottery class right now, 446 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking a painting class. 447 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: It's so good. It's my favorite thing to. 448 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Do, all kind of painting, oil all. Yeah, it's just fun. 449 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: It's great having a hobby that's not music. Yeah, and 450 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to do it. Yeah, to remember that it's 451 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: nice to do, you know, it's hard to remember to 452 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: do it. 453 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, to take it's good to have your your creative 454 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: channel in something that has no we really are like 455 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: learning and new something that you've never done. 456 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, I love that. 457 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: But this podcast is so fun for me because it's 458 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: it's creative, but it's. 459 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Also kind of loose, which is how I am. Yeah. 460 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: I hate to practice, me too. 461 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: So if I didn't have all this stuff going so hard, Yeah, 462 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be playing if I didn't have any reason 463 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: to like a gig or something to do. 464 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, same same with me. Yeah, yeah, I just rearranged from. 465 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: Everybody comes come over again. You'll see it totally different. Yeah, 466 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: I'll help you. Please start a business of interior design. 467 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: We just come over, you have to leave. We have 468 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: eight hours. We get to do whatever we want. I 469 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 4: have a friend who that She's like, we should open 470 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: a design company. 471 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I just don't want. 472 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 4: Anybody's feedback, and I'm like, I agree totally. 473 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not trying to drum up a business one yelp. 474 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 475 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: If you let us do whatever we want. 476 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: I like that idea. 477 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it would be fun. 478 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 479 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: Obviously, will you play piano for me? 480 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 481 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Okay to sweet I don't think I played your piano 482 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: when I was at your house. It's dark Hawaii, but 483 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: it's heavy, which I like. Yeah, I like a dark piano. 484 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: This one's kind of dark. Yeah, beautiful. So this is 485 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: a song from your new album. This is the first 486 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: song on that. Yeah, it's backwards deep, the deep one. 487 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: It's got some depth to Yeah. 488 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: We did have a debate about is that the right 489 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: title or the right song choice to do as a 490 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: first Yeah, first song, and then it just made and 491 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: actually ended up making sense with the flow of the record. 492 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: It's hard to sequence a record, really hard. Yeah. 493 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't. 494 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 5: Be no use, Steve. If I can't be good for myself, 495 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: I can make it better for any body else with 496 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 5: sides gone, turn off. 497 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 12: Outy, nothing's gone to change until I do. 498 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 5: I can't be no use, steal. If I can make 499 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 5: the summer, I can make it better than can. 500 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 9: Face the soul. 501 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 10: It would be so easy to say easy unless what 502 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 10: I feel. 503 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 13: I don't know, the want a little back end, regret 504 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 13: it all that staying here. 505 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 7: And made it silight, gold, turn of fit and empty 506 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 7: house back. 507 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 5: There's not a place that I can be so far 508 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: from with them. 509 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 14: I'm scared, and yet I'm not. I'm no way you 510 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 14: are you with me inside? 511 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: Lord, You'll always be, You're all loving for me. 512 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 10: I'm just afraid slipping backwards. 513 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: Back. There's not a place that I can be. Oh, 514 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 5: I am so litening and you're not in front of me. 515 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 13: Babies, the lasting that had ever wanted to. 516 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 5: Go leave you now, Maybe it's some wrong and that 517 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: you find a widower. 518 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 13: Spaving again, sern O n Maybe side God her tell 519 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 13: of fan and empty house. 520 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 5: Fact this not please that I can be. 521 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 6: That songs so sad. 522 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Had you written a lot of these songs, had you 523 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: had them kicking around for a long time, or how 524 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: did it all come about for this record? 525 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 4: Like in twenty nineteen, I finished a lot of touring, 526 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 4: a couple rounds of asia US, and then I had 527 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: a batch of them, and I had taken twenty twenty 528 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: off and saved up all this money to go make 529 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: a record in twenty twenty, and then twenty twenty hit 530 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: and it was everything changed for everybody. And during that 531 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 4: time I actually wrote a few more songs. I realized 532 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: I wrote almost every song on the same key, so 533 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: and it just became a mean doing something. And so 534 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: I actually went in and started trying to demo them, 535 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 4: five of them as like a short film or a 536 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: short in my head, like just something that bled one 537 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: into the other. And I started playing with transitions, and. 538 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: Then as time went on, I built sort of more 539 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: songs around it. 540 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: And that's where the figuring out the order and the 541 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: you know, time change from the perspective I had when 542 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: I first started writing the record versus when after going 543 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 4: through that change, some of it infiltrated, of course, and then. 544 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: And then we started recording in twenty twenty three and four. Okay, 545 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: something like that, Yeah, I'm doing little bits and pieces. 546 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: But then I had spent all the money that I 547 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: had saved to make the record, so I had to 548 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 4: go out and tour again, gotcha to sort of fillip 549 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: count and then we went pretty hard. Well, I guess 550 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: twenty three is when we really started digging in and then. 551 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, people don't realize that you have to 552 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: spend money to yeah, pay musicians and three times. 553 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 554 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: So many people just do stuff at home on their computers. 555 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: But it's so nice to work with people and collaborate. 556 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 4: It's so beautiful. Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny. It's a 557 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: the model is changing. I think it has to change 558 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: for different levels of artists. And yeah, financially, I just 559 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 4: finished a run and it's you know, it's it's like, wow, 560 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: I spent a lot of money on sort of to 561 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 4: go out and do it. I'm like, I wonder I 562 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 4: had discussion just doing it at the level that I'm at. 563 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 4: It's sort of like it's it's I have a lot 564 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 4: of friends sort of where I'm at, and people have 565 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: to cancel tours because it's just the cost to do it. 566 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of that happening so much years. 567 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: Too, I think so so it's it's always nice to 568 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 4: figure out new avenues of creativity, and even something like this, 569 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: which is contained in its own space and a certain respect, 570 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 4: is like so beautifully inspiring and wonderful. 571 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah it's fine. It's it's in the hole though, 572 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 573 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: It costs money to do it. 574 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 11: It does. 575 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: It's fine for now, but yeah, I don't know. I 576 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: know it'll ever get out of the hole. 577 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: I know, you know, it's definitely like a I think 578 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: things will change. 579 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 4: I do have high high hopes for sort of the 580 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: evening out of what is you know, important and crucial 581 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 4: and stirs your heart and compensation that makes it so you. 582 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: Can keep going at it, I hope. 583 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 4: So. 584 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think people love to see live music, 585 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: but at the same time, people don't want to leave 586 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: their houses. 587 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: I know me too. 588 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 5: I know it takes a lot to get to choke. 589 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of stopped inviting people to shows if 590 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't expect anyone to want to leave their house. Yeah, 591 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: like friends and stuff. Sure, Yeah, yeah, it's so hard. 592 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: It's really hard people get out of battled in. It's true, 593 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: and it's a whole evening. It's not just like the 594 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: comes to the show. 595 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 4: I have to struggle. I mean, we have so many 596 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 4: great venues in Woodstock, and I have to really like, Okay. 597 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 2: It's going to be a ten minute draw. 598 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 5: Even that far. 599 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: I know, it's kind of nuts. 600 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they to psych yourself up for I do such 601 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: a funny age. 602 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 6: Maybe that's just our age. 603 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 5: I don't know. 604 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of an age thing 605 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: there too. 606 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 4: I mean, most of my audience now is probably in 607 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 4: bed by night, and like that's a healthy Like they 608 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 4: if I play an early show, they're like, thank god, 609 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 4: that's civilized. 610 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 6: I'm like, I agree, yeah, I know. 611 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, can I open for somebody? Yeah, late sound show, 612 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: go to bed. I know, I think that would be 613 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: my ideal gig. 614 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, there's so many ideas happening right now. 615 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 4: Afternoon shows with alien costumes and sofas for everybody, sofas 616 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 4: for the musicians and class. 617 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: For the four pm show. Actually that might even be 618 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 6: too late. 619 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: One pm show one, I. 620 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 4: Like one if as soon as it starts getting dark, 621 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm try again tomorrow. I know. 622 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: It's so funny, crazy, Yeah, conversations. It's awesome. 623 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I had other things I wanted to ask 624 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: you what they Oh, so, when you do tour Asia, 625 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: since it's a little bit of a different vibe, is 626 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: your audience younger? 627 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what it spans. 628 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 4: You know, I never even thought about it. It's it's 629 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 4: a pretty wide range. Yeah, it's a pretty wide range. 630 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 4: I would there probably is a bigger younger contingent just 631 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: because there might be signing the music younger. 632 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 2: So fun, it's so fun. 633 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's really it's intriguing to ask somebody younger, 634 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 4: how did you find this? You know, and I don't 635 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 4: even know what the channels. It's like a lot of 636 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 4: YouTube people are like your social media TikTok's the whole 637 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 4: all the things. 638 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: I think that's how they find a lot of things. Yeah, 639 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 2: those young people. Yeah, it's just. 640 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: That's why if you do figure out the way to 641 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: get yourself out there in that way, it's good. 642 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 4: I wonder if we're moving into a time where we 643 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 4: all become curators and they'll come to you for you know, 644 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 4: you're introducing so many artists into your world and so there, 645 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: and you do so many different things or same like 646 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 4: if I'm doing you know, if I feed the squirrels 647 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 4: whatever I do, if somebody said interested in that, Like, 648 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 4: but you're curating a world that I think that people 649 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 4: appreciate because there I just don't know if there's the 650 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: algorithms are really tricky. 651 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: So I think, just be you and do what you 652 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: do and showcase your world. And I think that's all 653 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 2: you can do. 654 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that used to be the advice people would 655 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: give when we were younger too and starting out playing music. 656 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 5: You just do you do. 657 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same kind of yeah theory, I guess. 658 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah. 659 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: But I think the younger generation is so having grown 660 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: up with it. I read this thing about how everyone 661 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: at the Grammys a couple of years ago, the young people, 662 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: they were all so good because they've grown up on camera. 663 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: It's like a whole other thing right at performing that thing. Oh, 664 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: I don't even think about that. 665 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 4: I know. 666 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: I didn't either until I read this somewhere and I was. 667 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, you're right, that's wild. I mean, I 668 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: guess in a way, the young young button was like 669 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: the Taos. 670 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: They're just there's just no when it's how to turn 671 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: it on in a good way. Yeah, yeah, and it's 672 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: natural and like, you know, I'm like. 673 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: That is so I don't know how to do that. 674 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 4: But I heard there was a study where kids who 675 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 4: were using like the with the VR sets or the 676 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 4: gaming or that the tricky part was that the colors 677 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 4: are so vibrant and the sounds are so vibrant that 678 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 4: when you take it off and it's like you're looking 679 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 4: at sort of daily life, the excitement factor isn't there. 680 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: Your dopamine gets yeah, which was I had never thought 681 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: about that. That's interesting too, that's freaky. 682 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: That is freaky. I mean, I know the dopamine thing 683 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: with phones and touchscreen. Yeah, it's really bad. So I 684 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: started the television the other day and I was like, 685 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: this is just a giant phone turned horizontally. 686 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, why is this just occurring to me? 687 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 4: Now? 688 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 2: It's some time sucking me in. It is, but somehow 689 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel as bad. 690 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, But when I was a kid, I remember being 691 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: home from school, maybe watching eight hours of TV and 692 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: feeling like crap and knowing. 693 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 7: That that did it. 694 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: But it's still not the same. 695 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 5: You knew that. 696 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as bad. It's not as bad. 697 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 6: Now, I'm like, yeah, please watch eight Hours. 698 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not really, but I am. I know 699 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: over a screen it's wild, it's so wild. Yeah. Yeah, no, 700 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: I just sound like an old lady. I know me too, Like, no, 701 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: we're good, we're young. 702 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 11: Edit all that out, like cool, I think we're super cool. 703 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 2: You were really cool. 704 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: So this new album are you going to do? Sarah's 705 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: was saying that you're doing like a string quartet version. 706 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 5: Or some of them. Yeah. 707 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: I did this living room in the house and. 708 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: We got this incredible string quartet and who I found 709 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 4: because they do a lot of. 710 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: Playing with Natalie Merchant cool. I saw them play, I 711 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: was like, who are these They're amazing. Do they have 712 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: a name, like a band name. They don't have their 713 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: own name, but. 714 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 4: And there's three cores and then I think they're searching 715 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 4: for their fourth. But we got really lucky because they're 716 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 4: summer split in the city, summer in Upstate. We had 717 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 4: never met, I had never played with a string quartet. 718 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 4: I had never played without headphones, and so we had 719 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 4: like twenty people over and filmed this two day shoot 720 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 4: of seven I think six or seven songs and arranged 721 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 4: them and just sort of flew by the seat of our. 722 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 2: Pants and it was amazing. 723 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 4: We had everything under the sun happened where you know, 724 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 4: there was a copperhead in the yard, and I thought 725 00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 4: we'd film all these scenes in the yard. 726 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 5: And I know, I know. 727 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 2: We he's the same guy, Cobra Kai. We got his number. 728 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 4: He came over with the equivalent of like a wardrobe 729 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 4: pincher or whatever looking for I'm like, is that really 730 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 4: going to protect you? 731 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 2: Looking for this snake? 732 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 4: And you know that shifted where we're filming, and and 733 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 4: but yeah, we got some beautiful versions of the songs 734 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 4: and it was it was a magical two days that 735 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 4: I think we captured. So I'm gonna go through and 736 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 4: start sort of listening back to versions and and we'll put. 737 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 2: The video piece of it together and release it early 738 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: next year. This sounds really beautiful. Yeah, just the sound 739 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 2: of strings in the room and your voice gorgeous. No headphones. 740 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 2: It was the no headphones was really interesting. Even with this, 741 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, like, what's that going to be. 742 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 2: It's kind of wonderful. It's pretty nice. Yeah, if he 743 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: can do it, yeah, it's just like, yeah, I was 744 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 2: gonna say rubbing. 745 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 1: Friction rubbing, but it sounded wrong. Then I got confused. Anyway, 746 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 747 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 2: What you mean? 748 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 5: Thank you? 749 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 4: I do. It's like intertwining, like atoms of texture exactly. 750 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 5: We should write books. 751 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: I can't think of words anymore. 752 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 5: Again. I'm so old. 753 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm starting to worry about my memory. 754 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: I have a terrible memory. 755 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's awful. 756 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 2: Have you done that thing where you walk into a room. 757 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 5: And you're like, I know, I know I'm in here. 758 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: Some songs about it? 759 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm literally I have a song about it called 760 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Staring at the Wall. And it's like I literally go 761 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 1: to every room and then I I leave the room. 762 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: I do something, but not the thing I meant to go. 763 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 2: Date. It's the phone for me. I think it's just 764 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 2: like sucked on my attention. 765 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 766 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fast. Everything's fast. It's one minute to the next, 767 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 2: minute to the next. That's why music is so nice. 768 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: I think it's like my only time to really just 769 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: be in the moment. Yeah, it's really hard to be 770 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: in the moment nowadays. 771 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 4: And yeah, and it's more important than ever, right, Yeah, Like, 772 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 4: are you in the metaphysical interest world at all? 773 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: Of what does that mean? Like consciousness. 774 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 6: Please explain more. 775 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 4: Oh guy, just like the importance of things that fascinated me. 776 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 4: I went on deep dives in twenty twenty. These the 777 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 4: idea that we're all energy waves. Everything matter is like 778 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 4: an actual just moving energy, and that we're interacting and 779 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 4: our consciousness is sort of intertwined and. 780 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 2: We're collective, and these ideas of frequency and. 781 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 7: I like that. 782 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it's amazing. You need to tell me more. I 783 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 2: will send you lots of things. 784 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 5: Send me things. 785 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 2: I will send you anything. 786 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: Does this line with like ways to elevate your consciousness? 787 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 788 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 5: You know what? 789 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 4: For me? It? I think when you can maintain sort 790 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 4: of a frequency of gratitude, of love, of sharing, like 791 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 4: the highest that you can go, like on your best day, 792 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 4: and then you start seeing the reactions of what you 793 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 4: can encounter every day, and how it reiterates the idea 794 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 4: that maybe we are co creating more than we think 795 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 4: we are, And especially when the world gets nuts and 796 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 4: there's so much zing on a consistent basis, this idea 797 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 4: of centering your own energy and grounding it and stillness 798 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 4: and breath work, and which I do because I chain smoke, 799 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 4: I mean I have to. I'm not saying I know 800 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 4: what I'm doing, but like there's a lot of like, yeah, 801 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 4: a lot to be gained in terms of like integrating 802 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 4: that so that what you're zinging out to the rest 803 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 4: of the world is more balanced, more peaceful, and then 804 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 4: that starts to shift things. It's just shifts my world 805 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 4: on a daily basis, and it's not easy. But the 806 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 4: more you investigate it, the more interesting it becomes. 807 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 2: I like it. I'll send you some stuff, send me 808 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: some stuff. Do you have a practice you do every day? 809 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: I journal I do a lot of journaling. Do you 810 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 2: always do it in the morning or do you I'm 811 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 2: a morning person the first thing. 812 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, not every day, but I'll even like, you know, 813 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 4: sitting with the animals, the various animal yard animals that come. 814 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: That does a lot for me. 815 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 4: And it's nice that clears something because I wake up 816 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 4: with it to do list like almost me too ready 817 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 4: to go. 818 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have to stab myself from sending emails 819 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: too early or text bust. 820 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 6: I know, I'm just ready to go. 821 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 2: Do you know who does that? Which I really appreciate. King, 822 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 2: She's an early morning tester and I love that. 823 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you are. 824 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 4: Like and like Joan Osborne does it like there's a 825 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 4: couple of buddies who I'm like, they're up doing it, 826 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 4: Like I know that I could call any of them 827 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 4: and we could have a whole like I've already had 828 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 4: three cups of coffee conversation because you're on it. 829 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, I go the other direction. 830 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 4: I don't even look at emails like great, I'm it's 831 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 4: a yeah, I'm just starting to get back into it. 832 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: I feel like emails kind of nobody looks at him anymore. 833 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: I wonder. 834 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think for business you have to sometimes 835 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: some people. Yeah, I don't think young people look at emails. 836 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 5: I don't know that they. 837 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 2: I don't think they do. But I don't even know 838 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: if they look at texts, Like there's probably I. 839 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: Don't know, but I will say I used to be 840 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: wordy as a text. Yeah, but now I can't even 841 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: read a paragraph. 842 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 6: I can't focus on what somebody's saying. 843 00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: Do you do the voice memo? 844 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 9: Do it? 845 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't, And I hate I don't like it. 846 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 5: You don't. 847 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: I don't like it when I get one because then 848 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: I have to stop and listen to it, and it's 849 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: like I always read the translation instead. 850 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 4: You don't even know how to make the trans translation. 851 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's one of my things. Taking time out, 852 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 4: I'm going to learn all these things about like foul 853 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 4: folders and computers and not to back up the computer. 854 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: And it's such a list of. 855 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: Like I know that the voice text thing is good 856 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: in a way, but I just I think I'm too 857 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: wrapped up in doing stuff. 858 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a heart, you have a full plate. 859 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: I do, but I don't. 860 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that I do, it's that I Yeah, 861 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: sometimes I just get wound up, you know, I understand. 862 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, as I drink more coffee, I think you drink 863 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 2: more coffee. Well this is so fun. 864 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: Are you going back out on tour? 865 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 8: Uh? 866 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 5: Not yet. 867 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna Yeah. 868 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 4: I think the string quartet EP whatever that will become 869 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 4: is the main priority. 870 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: Do you think you'll tour with the strings? You know, 871 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: I do a few special things. 872 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 4: I just came off a run that had violin and 873 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 4: cello and Michael Chavis, who plays a little bit of everything, 874 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 4: and that arrangement was really nice. We played rooms that 875 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 4: already had real acoustic pianos in them and and that 876 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 4: had a thing to it, and I really love that. 877 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 4: So if there's a way to kind of continue. 878 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: That, I would do that. Yeah, I would love to 879 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, that would be nice. Yeah, so you 880 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 2: tour the small band usually it just depends. Yeah, do 881 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 2: you have a tour solo? 882 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: I have? 883 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: I have, and I love it because you Okay, yeah, 884 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 2: I've never. 885 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 11: Done it really no, really. 886 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: No, I think I just it feels too hard or 887 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,760 Speaker 1: also boring, maybe like I'm afraid I'll get bored by myself. 888 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 2: I bet I get that. I get the internal thing 889 00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 2: of like, but. 890 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 1: You're not alone in your interact. 891 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: You are, so I forget that. Oh and people would 892 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 2: love it. 893 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 4: They would be just they would eat it up like 894 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 4: it's it's scary, right, the idea is scary, Yeah. 895 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 1: But it's intimate and in a way that is beautiful totally. 896 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: When you do, when you've done it, you do some 897 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: piano and some guitar. 898 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: Piano and guitar. I think that would be nice. 899 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 900 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: I think thinking about doing like an hour and a 901 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: half just on piano feels limiting. 902 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 2: It's a lot. Yeah, I think I missed the backbeat 903 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 2: of something and there. 904 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 4: You know, there's I would use like a stomp pedal 905 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 4: or a couple of looped things so that I could 906 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 4: you could trigger some things. 907 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 2: And I actually also did a like a projector movie. 908 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 4: Because there was something about having like a visual in 909 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 4: tanem If you're doing. 910 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: Solo, that helped me my show. But I think people 911 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 2: would love it. I love that. 912 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but then you you can't be like the connection 913 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 4: of another musician that you're like, yeah, I just like it. 914 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so good at it. I feel like if 915 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: I was going to do a solo thing, I would 916 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: have to practice it. Yeah, I don't I know the 917 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: thing I don't want to do. 918 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 11: Well. 919 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 2: I know, well, you could do exclusive like preview shows 920 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 2: or I'm just practicing. 921 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 4: Yes, do it in our living room. You're invited any time. 922 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,240 Speaker 4: I will rearrange the furniture. 923 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 1: I mean I actually I thrive on a practice gig. 924 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: That's kind of my jam. 925 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 2: It's so good. 926 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, like with Pus some Boots, that's what we always 927 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 1: need to do, the little bar gigs and then so good, 928 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: we mess up and yeah we get it together. You 929 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: got to give cat Paper a big hugg Yeah, she 930 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: played on my offense record. 931 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 2: That's right. I kind of knew that I forgot that. Yeah, 932 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 2: she's amazing yeah, you know we we met one time 933 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 2: at wasn't it the thirty Rock Oh. 934 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 6: Right, yeah, the only time we've met. 935 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: That's right, that is we did. 936 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did read them. 937 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah at the Just Give a Kidney, We Are the 938 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: World whatever. 939 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was so funny. That was so funny. 940 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 2: That was so funny. To this day, people are still 941 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 2: calling there like I was just watching. I know, it's funny, 942 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 2: so funny. That was a magical day. That was fun Yeah. 943 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: I was right across the hall from Cyndy Lapper in 944 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 1: the dressing room. 945 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 4: I kept watching her exchange phone numbers with the Beastie Boys. 946 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 2: This is incredible. 947 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were some crazy people there. 948 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 2: So Moby's like, what's this harmony. I'm like, I don't know. 949 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 4: Michael Donald was right in front of me, was like, oh, 950 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, the whole day blew my mind. 951 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 2: I know, it's crazy. I feel like you were behind 952 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 2: me maybe I think it was on the mill. Red 953 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 2: Miller was around. 954 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was on the left. I think you 955 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 4: were by Burrellas. Burrells was there, and yeah, it was 956 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 4: just wild. Yeah, when you look at the photo, do 957 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:02,720 Speaker 4: you have that photo? 958 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 2: I don't, I should I should find it. Oh my god, 959 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 2: you gotta find that photo. 960 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is wild, that's funny, surreal. Yeah, I just 961 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: remember that's. 962 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 2: When we met. 963 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 6: No Bigs, No bigs. 964 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 5: Yeah what oh right? Oh wow. 965 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 2: So do you do a lot of cover songs? Not really, 966 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 2: not so much. Yeah, I had a hard time finding it. Yeah, 967 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 2: not so much. But I'd like to. But then that 968 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 2: would involve practicing and learning. 969 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 5: Exactly, which is why for this next one. Yeah. 970 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a I've done a couple here and there, 971 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 4: but and I love trying them if I have a 972 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 4: band or something, for sure. 973 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay. You don't need to necessarily do that. 974 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 2: I just like Chryl Crow home on a zither ones. 975 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, zither. 976 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 5: Yea's fun. 977 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of nice. Yeah, but I got a 978 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,760 Speaker 2: branch out a grandchat. 979 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 4: Well. 980 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: I asked if you wanted to try a cover, and 981 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: you suggested this song I Wish You Loved? Which is 982 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: I love this song love is? Well it's like from 983 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: the forties. Yeah, yeah, it's a beautiful song. 984 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 2: So good. But did you do this for soundtrack or 985 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 2: something for Prime? The movie Prime? 986 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin Salem and I just went in and did 987 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 4: two versions. I think the movie actually has sort of 988 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 4: a more up tempo traditional version, and that was the 989 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 4: one that they used in the film, and then we 990 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 4: had one that was like really like hey yeah, and 991 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 4: that version I think maybe was on the soundtrack as well, 992 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 4: or it's just it's living on the internet somewhere, but yeah, 993 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 4: you do anything you want. 994 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 5: I wish you bluebirds in the spring to give your 995 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 5: heart a song to sing and then a kiss. But 996 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 5: more than live, I wish you lord. 997 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 10: And in July. 998 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 5: A lemonade to cool you in some leaf lade. 999 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 2: I wish you health and more than wealth. 1000 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: I wish you love, my. 1001 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 5: Breaking heart, and I agree. 1002 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 4: That you and. 1003 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:05,760 Speaker 5: Could never be so with my best, my very best, 1004 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 5: I set you free. I wish you shelters from a storm, 1005 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 5: a cozy fire to keep you all when most. 1006 00:57:27,480 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 12: When snowflakes fall. I wish you lowe, my breaking hard 1007 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 12: and I agree. 1008 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 5: That you and I could never lead so with my best, 1009 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 5: my very best, I have said you free. I wish 1010 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 5: you sheltered from a snore, a cozy fire to keep 1011 00:58:51,200 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 5: you most when snowflakes fall. I wish you look. 1012 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 12: One most of. 1013 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 2: When snowflax fall. 1014 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 5: Oh ish you. 1015 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 10: I don't know. 1016 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 2: That's a one PM hit, baby, it's not even one pm. 1017 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 2: It's probably noon right now. My god, oh my god, 1018 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 2: it's perfect. I love it. This is so fun, so fun. Okay, 1019 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 2: let's hang out all the time. Let's do it. 1020 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening. That was Rachel Yamagata. That was 1021 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: really fun about it. 1022 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 2: That's incredible. 1023 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1024 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: If you want to know the songs we played, the 1025 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: first song was break Apart from her album called Tight 1026 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Rope Walker, which was released in twenty sixteen. The second 1027 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: song was Backwards from Starlit Alchemy, released in twenty twenty five, 1028 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: and the last song we did was I Wish You Love. 1029 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: The music was by Leo Shauliac and Charles Trene and 1030 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: French lyrics by Trenee written in the nineteen forties, the 1031 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: new lyrics by American composer and lyricist Albert ASQ. Beach. 1032 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Rachel Yamagata for joining us today, and 1033 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: we'll be back next week with Long Long Norah Jones 1034 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: is Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Visit 1035 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe while you're there. 1036 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Norah Jones Today's episode was recorded by 1037 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Kyle Pass, mixed by Jamie Landry, Additional recording by Matt Marinelli. 1038 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: Audio post production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Artwork by 1039 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Eliza Fry, Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by Nora Jones 1040 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 1: and Sarah Oda. Executive producers Aaron Wan Kaufman and Jordan Rundag. 1041 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Marketing lead Alison camp Your grap