1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Hey, Guys's Edge Martinez is an encore presentation of my 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: interview and sit down with the amazing Usher. He's having 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: an amazing time. Super Bowl Bowl was phenomenal and after 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl him and his wife got married in Las Vegas. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: What a day for Usher and his wife. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: And I think that this episode speaks to his happiness 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: and why he has having this moment in his career 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: that he's having right now. And he says to himself 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: that he chose happiness, and he's put a lot of 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: work into being happy, and he's put a lot of 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: work into his relationship, and I think you'll see that 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: in this episode. I think it says a lot about 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: his relationship with Jen who is now his wife, and 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: it also says a lot about the work that they 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: put in to make this relationship what it is. So 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: congratulations to the newlyweds and I. 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Hope you enjoy this episode. 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Andi Martinez in Real Life Podcast, I mean. 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Do we welcome hand with everybody that we appreciate him. 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: He feels loved. But my crew they're like, yeah, whatever, 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: what he made us work on Sunday? He made us 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: work on Sunday. 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh sure, baby, let me tell you something. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: I came to Vegas to see your show on Friday 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: and Saturday. 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: I've been working so hard, so Saturday I was going 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: to do nothing. 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: I was gonna catch up on emails and do nothing, 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: and then I was going to come interview on Sunday. 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: That was a plan originally. 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: I went to the show on Saturday, and I was 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: I know it was gonna be good. Your Russia, You're 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: always good, but there's something really magical happening out here. 34 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, like it's different level. 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 5: Goods were greater than every other person who came out 36 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: here to interview. I wanted you to have an entire weekend. 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: Experience, thank you. 38 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: So we started on Friday and then. 39 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: Come get why am I coming Friday for a Sunday interview? 40 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: I think you set me up for a whole weekend. 41 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really magical, but it is. 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: It actually is magical, and not just in part, you know, 43 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: you know, based off of all of the hit records 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 5: and the fact that we're here just celebrating years of music, 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 5: celebrating twenty fifth anniversary in my way, but even some 46 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: of the special guests that come. Fat Joe came the 47 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 5: first day. 48 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: Joe is here. Who was Donald Jones? 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: And Jones came night was it was Robin Thick, Keith Sweat, 50 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 5: and Teddie Riley. Yeah, so I got like this this 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 5: donut in the middle of the show. It's like a 52 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: special little moment for the you know, the the unknown 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 5: to happen. 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah you did. I saw Chris Brown came. 55 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a moment to give people their flowers also, 56 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: but then also have this like connection with them with 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: everybody and. 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: Well specifically in Vegas because it's supposed to be an 59 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: accelerated experience here. Right. 60 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 5: So for me, rather we've done Wreckords together, or rather 61 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 5: we've just been friends for years, you know. For me 62 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 5: and Robin, we go back, you know, to Confessions and 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: the first time I ever met him, I was just 64 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: so intrigued by his talent. 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 4: So we finally got a chance to work together. 66 00:02:54,040 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: It's like a smoothness like Jesus had about him, you 67 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 5: And then he but over the years just building a relationship, 69 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 5: I was like, yoah, there's no way possible. 70 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this when or not? Have you come 71 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: out and just share a little love and in the 72 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: face records, right, yeah, it was the last night. Yes, 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: La Reid was in the house. Mark Pitts was in 74 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 4: the house. 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 5: Donielle Jones he La didn't see that show, but I 76 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: was backstage talking to don Ellen. I'm like, yo, dude, 77 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: you realize how important the Face was for just the 78 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: like the ground ling, like we set the fore plan 79 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 5: for all of what Atlanta is. There was plenty of 80 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: people were doing things, but not quite as sophisticated as 81 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 5: La Reid and Babyface with the Face records, so being 82 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: able to celebrate him. I mean, if I could get 83 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: everybody up, he'd be great. But you know, we are 84 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: the Motown of the South. So I was like, yo, 85 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 5: I want us to be, you know, remembered, and I 86 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: want the audience in the world to be able to 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: see and share in that moment rather they know the songs, 88 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 5: or rather they now will go back and understand. 89 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute. 90 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: Usher used to he worked with Donnield Jones' first album. 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did, And that's kind of how Motown was, right. 92 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: They all helped each other. 93 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 5: Rather they pitched him by way of song, by way 94 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 5: of you know, production, or even choreography. 95 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: Right, So you know that's that's a little bit of that, 96 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 4: And I love. 97 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: That you took so seriously the thought of like bringing 98 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta to Vegas. 99 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 5: Oh without a question. Hey, look, everybody else brings that culture. 100 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 101 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 5: You got like South American culture through you know, sirch 102 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: the Sole and all of those incredible shows here and 103 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: the strip teases. We know what that is for the world, 104 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 5: but you don't know what it's. 105 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: Like til you go to Atlanta, you know what I mean. 106 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: People want to know what it feels like to make 107 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: it rain. 108 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 5: By the way it was, it was it was partially 109 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: my mom's concept and that this She was like, you 110 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 5: gotta make it rain. 111 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, all right, we're going. 112 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 5: To say so to bring Atlanta's culture the same way 113 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 5: that these other theatrical shows do the same thing in 114 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: Las Vegas. I wanted that to be our culture, you 115 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Yeah, for me, I was like, 116 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 5: you know, I'm an underpromise and overdelivered for this one one. 117 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: That's what my entire career has always been. 118 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 5: And this time I really get a chance to just 119 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 5: celebrate and do some things that I wanted to do. 120 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 5: You know, I want to try things that I've never 121 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 5: tried before. I want to celebrate culture in a way 122 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 5: that you know, preserves it and gives it a sophistication 123 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 5: and a way that you know, for people who've never 124 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 5: been to a club like that, they know what it 125 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: feels like, who have heard the music, but they don't 126 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 5: know the culture. Obviously, we were, you know, inching up 127 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 5: on the twenty five you know, year anniversary for My Way. 128 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 5: So the celebration of all those songs, it is a 129 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: surprise for me every night to go out there and 130 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: hear my original fans, who some I met when they 131 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: were eleven years old. Now adults with kids are their own. 132 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 5: So this is that moment to like kind of. 133 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: Relive our childhood, but also to get sophisticated. Come see 134 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: something fly, sexy, eat something nice. Rather you come out here. 135 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: Alone by yourself, you didn't leave alone, you know what 136 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: I'm saying, or either you came out here with your 137 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: significant others. 138 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: Just that was actually one. 139 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Of the girls. The second night there was a girl. 140 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: It was the first night there was a girl sitting 141 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 2: next to us, and she was by herself. She looked gorgeous. 142 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: She came, she got dressed and she got her seat 143 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: and she just sat there, had an amazing time. 144 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: Yes, it's really beautiful to look out there and see 145 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 5: all you know, all those beautiful women. 146 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: Man, it's like I'm out numbered here. It's like we're 147 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: the guys. 148 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It's like girls everywhere, and 149 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, it's cool, it's great, it's great. But just 150 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: to celebrate, you know, in many different you know mediums, 151 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 5: not just the show, but also to the memes and 152 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 5: all the other things that have happened as a result 153 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 5: of like just getting back to the basics. I think 154 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: I tried for so long, and you know, and every 155 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: time I put out an album, there's some meaning or 156 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: purpose behind it. I really, you know, had you know, 157 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: kind of been in this in this you know, analysis 158 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 5: paralysis thing that is all about trying to create the 159 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: next moment the music. 160 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: Right. So for me, it was like, let's stop for 161 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: two seconds. Let's not put out an album. 162 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 5: Because I had been putting out records here and there, 163 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: and these songs were great. I did a record with Lama, 164 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: you know, a couple of records dropped on the Pandemic, 165 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: and I was just like, yo, I just really want 166 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 5: to go back and celebrate the classic music for two 167 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 5: seconds and enjoy all of the years I never get 168 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: a chance to do that because I'm always focused. 169 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: You know, that's what it is. 170 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Because I was trying to put my finger on the 171 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: feeling of because this felt felt like a victory lap. 172 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: It feels like a you know, we all we all 173 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: come up and we're all chasing things and we're all 174 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: working so hard and trying to come up with. 175 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: The next thing. And what you're saying, I create and 176 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: create it. 177 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: But then you get to a point in your career 178 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: where you're like comfortable and you're enjoying the more. I 179 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: feel like I watched you do that this this show, 180 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: like you just rocking your crown like comfortably. 181 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: Well, when you've been doing it as long as I have. 182 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 5: Part of it is analyzing it being perfect. But when 183 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: you only just stop for two seconds and maybe look 184 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 5: at all of the things that you've done, there's a 185 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 5: lot to celebrate. 186 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: And no one man is an island. You know these 187 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: songs either. 188 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 5: You know, we produced it together with other producers and 189 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 5: writers and the creators that really helped me, you know, 190 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: kind of curate the entire show. 191 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: I think we were mindful of all that. 192 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: Even where we're right now, like this whole immersive experience 193 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: where you know, you begin to understand the world of 194 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 5: where it came from. 195 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: That wall over there. It normally is like full of 196 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: footage and things for me when I was a kid, 197 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: you know, my first talent show, you know, nineteen ninety one, 198 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: footage of me at Atlanta talent search in Atlanta, you know, 199 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: and then just going through out the entire process. But yeah, 200 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 4: I think I have kind of had the opportunity to celebrate. 201 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: I ain't resting, but I'm really celebrating the past, the music, 202 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: the history that I've been able to create. 203 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: Seems like you're having fun. 204 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 5: I'm having fun one because I'm choosing to. The second 205 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 5: half is I'm happy. Actually, I've never really taken the 206 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 5: time to stop and really, you know, be happy. I 207 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 5: feel like my relationships aren't a really good place. I 208 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: feel like I'm learning how to communicate better. 209 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: How do you do that? How'd you do that? What 210 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: do you attribute all of this to. 211 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 4: Listening? 212 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: You can hear somebody, but are you really listening? You know, 213 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 5: when you slow down and you begin to understand what's priority. 214 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: Family is priority to me. 215 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 5: Love, real love is priority to me, and I've had 216 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: enough difficult situations in my life to now be able 217 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: to assess the people who are really there for some 218 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 5: reason there's an agenda, and then the people who really 219 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 5: love me, whom I should love and I should appreciate, 220 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: and I can take my time and enjoy and celebrate 221 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 5: with some of those people I'm working with on this show. 222 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: Some of these people I don't work with, but they're 223 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 5: with me and we're able to just talk. 224 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: Some people I've worked with, we no longer work together, 225 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: but now we can just enjoy our relationship. You know, 226 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: a lot of therapy. 227 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: That I was wondering the field sounds like this therapy. 228 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is, and some people are a big It's 229 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 5: a bit complicated for people who out there who probably analyze, 230 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 5: you know, allowing someone to sit in and listen to 231 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 5: your conversation and try to help you hear your partner 232 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: or hear you know, your family member, or hear really 233 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: what you're suffering is all about. And I think a 234 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 5: lot of that has to do with my happiness. I 235 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: think a lot of you know, my feeling is confident, 236 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 5: and it's exciting, it's having great partnership. I got an 237 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,239 Speaker 5: amazing partner in life, Jennifer Goekochia. 238 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: She asked if I. 239 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Wanted Puerto Rican food before we started. Yeah, actually Puerto 240 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: Rican food. I was like, And then I'm going to 241 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: tell you this, dude, have my glam come to the 242 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: hotel before I came here? 243 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: And I guess they must do glam for the show. Also. 244 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were saying how much that Jen takes care 245 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: of everyone on the set. She just takes care of everybody. 246 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: They just were gushing about her, how much they loved her. 247 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: I was happy to know that you have somebody in 248 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: your life that is that loved by your you know, yeah, everybody. 249 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: And my mam would like her and love her too. 250 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 6: That's great, I said, she like her. 251 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: That's hard to accomplish that to those two things. 252 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: But something had to change in you to be able 253 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: to even be open to that. So you had to 254 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: you had to shift something, right. 255 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 5: Sometimes you go through ship to get to shit. You 256 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Uh, you go through something to 257 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: get to something in life. Good friend of mine, DJ Rogers, 258 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: you used to say this to me all the time. 259 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 5: It's like, yo, that with no humps in life, there'd 260 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 5: be nothing to get over. Like, oh man, it's hard now, 261 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: I get it. You live long enough, you begin to 262 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 5: understand and as I said, prioritize what makes you know. 263 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: The best, love lesson you learned. In terms of like 264 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: just correct self correction. 265 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 5: Self correction, I think, I think loving yourself and forgiving yourself. 266 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: You know, for whatever you you know may have you know, 267 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 5: wanted to accomplish and didn't for you know, whatever you 268 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 5: may have wanted to do and you didn't get you 269 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: didn't get a chance to do it, or whatever you 270 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 5: wanted to have and you didn't have. Sometimes we'll place 271 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 5: that blame out, well, we'll look out. But when you 272 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: take two seconds to really, you know, be alone and 273 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 5: look in the mirror, ain't nobody else there but you 274 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 5: and that other person in the mirror. So that means 275 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 5: that's the one you gotta get right, you know what 276 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 5: I'm saying. And you gotta trust yourself. You gotta listen 277 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 5: to yourself, and you gotta believe without you know, any 278 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: impression of what you think that you might need to 279 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 5: be doing based off of what you're looking at or 280 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 5: what someone else has, how do you feel and no 281 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: matter what level you're playing at. If you take the 282 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 5: time to deal with him or her in that mirror verse, 283 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 5: you'll be a better person. Accountability, accountability, patience with self too, 284 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 5: cause I think. 285 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. 286 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: We do things for other people, we don't we don't 287 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: give ourselves the same grace and the same kind of 288 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: like patience. 289 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 5: And well, we're all out here looking for something else 290 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: and not able to you know, be single, alonge, be 291 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: single long enough to That sound crazy even saying that, 292 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: because I'm never single long enough to even, but I 293 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 5: did it. 294 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: Some people are single foraying. 295 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: How that feel for you? In those two months? 296 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 4: Man, I was crazy. It was good, but it wasn't good. 297 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: Is what I got? What you got better? 298 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: It's funny seeing you on that stage and all that energy, 299 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, I wonder how that is to 300 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: be in a relationship. 301 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: Well, you clearly you like you like a relationship. 302 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: I'm never like not single. 303 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: You like love? 304 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: Right, I'm never single, I'm I love love. I'm just 305 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: fucking bad at it, you know what I'm saying. Better though, 306 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 5: I'm getting better, you know what I'm saying. Good partnership definitely, 307 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: you know, breeds great things. 308 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, but if you're not ready, it doesn't 309 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: matter the greatest person in the world, if you can't 310 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: contribute to it, it's not gonna. 311 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 4: Well it starts with you. 312 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 313 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: It's self accountability again. You know, when you're able to 314 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: take that time and deal with yourself. I'm curious and 315 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 5: you can be happy with anybody. 316 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 317 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: If I'm thinking about myself in terms of therapy and 318 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: all of the things that one of my I had 319 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: to be accountable for, Like saying what I want was 320 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: like a thing for me, Like you know, like. 321 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: You think somebody else should know what you need or 322 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: what you want. 323 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to. 324 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: Learn how to. 325 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: So that was the thing I wonder for you, Like, 326 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: what was your thing that you had to fix about you? 327 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: I'm perfect what you're talking about. 328 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: No, you're not perfect. 329 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: It might be perfect now by the way self correct Listen. 330 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: One having a partner who will be honest with you, 331 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: brutally honest with you, and you can take that constructive 332 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: criticism because you know it comes from a good place 333 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 5: and you've spent enough time your friends enough and you've 334 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: established trust. Trust is the main, you know, component to happiness. 335 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: And success in a relationship. Being able to actually hear 336 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 5: each other and speak up. 337 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: It's hard, right. 338 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: To to even know what you really want and what 339 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 5: really matters. I think most of the time you we 340 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 5: all just want to be heard. 341 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people when you say trust, 342 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: they assume because I know what you mean. Because some 343 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: people think trust means trust my partner not to cheat 344 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: or to distill trust it. But it's also like you 345 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: have to trust somebody. 346 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: Those things can become trivial, you know, because. 347 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: You have to trust somebody able to receive their information 348 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: with love, You have to trust their intentions. 349 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: You have to trust is. 350 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Way bigger than just whatever people normally connected with. 351 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, in fact, that. 352 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: You trust her to tell you, hey, that was whack 353 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: or you didn't like whatever the things. However, she asked, 354 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: how I would say it? 355 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: Whatever that. 356 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: One hundred you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and I 357 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: don't know about that, playboy. 358 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: But you have to. 359 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Trust to be able to let somebody say that to 360 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: you and know and be okay with it. 361 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 362 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Know about that playboy. 363 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 364 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 5: Well, again, just being able to hear each other, being 365 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: able to I'm trying to find the exact word of 366 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: what it's called. 367 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Take your time, but take your. 368 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 5: Time the idea in a relation and by the way, 369 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 5: ain't it's not like a perfect thing, right. 370 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: But when you're in a relationship with someone and. 371 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: They're talking, but you don't really get a chance to 372 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: hear what they're saying because you're trying to get your 373 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 5: point across, they're trying to get their point across. And 374 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 5: by the end of the conversations you've just been trying 375 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: to fight your at one point as opposed to actually 376 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 5: hearing each other. 377 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: Right. 378 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: So an exercise that i've I've I've managed to work 379 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 5: into life, not just relationship and love, but life period. 380 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: If you give me what it is that your your 381 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: issue is, and I hear it, and then I'm able 382 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: to repeat it back to you before I respond. 383 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: Yes, right, I'm sure I'm feeling like, yeah, whatever it is, 384 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: you didn't listen to me last night, and then. 385 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: You're angry because I didn't listen to you last night. 386 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: This is good exercise. This is therapy one. 387 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: And then and then you ask what else? 388 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh right, is there more? 389 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: Is there more? They give you more? You repeat back 390 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: verbatim so. 391 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: That I know this exercise from therapy. 392 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: It works, so. 393 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: You actually use it, you do it. 394 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: It actually works. 395 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 5: It resolves issues, and it gets to the point, especially 396 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 5: when a person is nervous, because it's like, Okay, I 397 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 5: got a few seconds to try to get a word 398 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 5: in and try to figure out how to get my 399 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 5: point or either, and then it turns into this argument 400 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 5: where I'm gonna one up you. Then you start insulting 401 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: each other. Okay, now I'm gonna one up you in 402 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 5: an insult and then before you know it, one party 403 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 5: can walk away and nothing's resolved. I didn't hear you, 404 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 5: you didn't hear me. We didn't get to any good 405 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 5: point of communication. So how can we now get to 406 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 5: a successful place where we're happy because we're gonna have 407 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: to sleep in the bed together, or to be around 408 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: the kids, or be around each other and do business together, 409 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 5: whatever it might be. 410 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: But to be able to perception check is what it's called. 411 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: Some people just want to be hurt, that's it. 412 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: Because the perception to perception check greater than just hearing 413 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 5: what you're saying. 414 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: To have a perception of exactly what it is you're. 415 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 5: Saying and then repeat it for vatim You can't say 416 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 5: you didn't hear me because you repeated it to me 417 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: one ri. It's feed therapy, by the way, and this 418 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 5: shit really cause work. You're welcome. It's free game in 419 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 5: a relation. You want a successful relationship, you try this. 420 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 5: I'm telling you it's gonna work. Is there more she 421 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 5: gives it to you? Is there more by the time 422 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 5: she's resolved whatever her issue is smaller because it probably 423 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: is something much smaller than you whatever imagine it would be. 424 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 5: And maybe as a man, I'm insulted that you even 425 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 5: talking to me the way you're talking to me. But 426 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: if I get past all of that and I just 427 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 5: hear you, we get to the end of it. Now 428 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: we're at the end of it. Nine times out of ten, 429 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 5: I won't even have a rebuttal or a reason to 430 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 5: try to come back at it. 431 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: I want to be heard. Sometimes you just want to 432 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: be heard. 433 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: Sometimes you just want And by the way, vice versa. 434 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 5: Women have to they have to try it the same 435 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 5: way for men because sometimes it might be you know, 436 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: it's hard for a guy to be vulnerable and really 437 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 5: tell you the shit that he's going through as a man, 438 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 5: any man, he has a hill to climb just I 439 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 5: mean especially black man or minority men, minorities in America 440 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 5: and whatever minority group you choose to stand with, right, 441 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: it's hard. 442 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 4: Right, So now I'm. 443 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 5: At home and my house is supposed to be in order, 444 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 5: and I got to be able to talk to you 445 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 5: and tell you exactly what I feel, be vulnerable with you, 446 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 5: only you. I gotta fight the rest of the world, 447 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: but I want to be able to really talk to you, 448 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 5: talk to you, tell you exactly what I'm feeling. And 449 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 5: you say, it's everything else, and I have to think 450 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 5: about it. I give you what else. Hopefully you don't 451 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: take too long, but you eventually get to a place. 452 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: You're heard. Then, yeah, you're heard. 453 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 4: Don't just yes, well no, don't just hear me like no, 454 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: don't just listen to me. You say it right, don't 455 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: just listen. 456 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 5: To me, really hear me and process perception, check with 457 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 5: each other. That's one gift, that's one lesson, and I 458 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 5: feel like it really helps us. 459 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: That is not a small thing. 460 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 4: It's really hard to because. 461 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: The opposite of that, just for anybody who's never been 462 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: to therapy. Right, So, hey, this bothers me, and then 463 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: you feel you have to defeel attacked, you feel attacked, right, 464 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: So now you're engaging in war that you can't win 465 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: because neither one of you feels heard or feels, you know, 466 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: like it's no connection. So that's normally what happens when 467 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: people argue. 468 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: Well, by the way, if you're dealing with a selfish partner, 469 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 5: then that might be an indication that this partner ain't 470 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 5: for you. 471 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: Right. I'm not saying perception check with an idiot. 472 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: I'm not saying perception check with a person who's just 473 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 5: selfish and can't, you know, allow you to have at 474 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: least some space to be able to be heard. 475 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 4: I mean, these are signs. 476 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: Right in the event that the signs are telling you 477 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 5: it's not right, maybe you should listen. 478 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: Ooh that's good. Oh sure, so happy for you. 479 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 4: I'm happy for me too, right. 480 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: Now, I'm happy for you. Everybody's I don't know. You're 481 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: in a good it's so good and it's obvious. I've 482 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: seen you perform. You're always great on stage. 483 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: You're like happy up there, and it resonates different. 484 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: We feel it. 485 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I feel it because I know you. I don't know, 486 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: but I feel it. I'm sure other people tell you 487 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: this too. 488 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is the ability to have a peace right 489 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 5: and not feel as though I have to prove anything. 490 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: I think that we all go through that I have 491 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 5: to prove something that's noting. 492 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about you having a because 493 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: I feel like even you as a kid coming up 494 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: in this business and having all this talent that you had. 495 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: I feel like when we look at Michael. 496 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: Jackson and he was probably somebody you probably looked at 497 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Michael's career. 498 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the goal, right, This is. 499 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: From what I know of you and from them your career. 500 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you've reached that for yourself? 501 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: Whatever that thing was. 502 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 5: I think everybody has their own stories. Some people start 503 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 5: later in their life, so they've had the opportunity to 504 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: live out certain experiences, gather what they feel about life, 505 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 5: have ambition, be ambitious, you know, have integrity or not 506 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 5: figure it out hook a crook how you get there, 507 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 5: and then the career starts. For me, it started before 508 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 5: I had any of those experiences. No, I'm not quite 509 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 5: like Michael, but I got my own experience and I 510 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: have my own history, and I think it started by 511 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 5: someone else's interpretation of me. Right again, we all have 512 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 5: this speak your kid and we all have to be 513 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: brought up. So long as you're able to look at 514 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 5: every experience as a great one, good or bad, it'll 515 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 5: work out for you. 516 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 4: Don't just be all right with the yeses. Don't just 517 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 4: be okay with the winds. Accept your losses, accept. 518 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 5: Your moments that are perceived to be losses to only 519 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 5: make you better for the future. Rather, you know, man, 520 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 5: it was a really difficult start, and you know, I 521 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 5: had to make so many sacrifices in the beginning. Great 522 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: that you did, because now you can appreciate this moment 523 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 5: where you're standing on the mountaintop. But it's hard. It's 524 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 5: hard to do that when you're in the middle of it. 525 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 5: Part of it is my upbringing. I'm very happy that 526 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 5: my mother raised me and my brother the way that 527 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 5: she did. I'm really happy that I had some elders 528 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 5: in my life and also two mentors that are still there, 529 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 5: consigliaries that you know are there to be able to yeah, 530 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: to be able to help you really understand. And then 531 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 5: life is as much as you choose to explore and 532 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 5: educate yourself. 533 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 4: You ain't shit. 534 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 5: You can't read right now, So take if you can 535 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 5: take the time to sit down and understand what a 536 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 5: person's life was, where they started, what this story is, 537 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 5: and gather something from it. But if you are fortunate 538 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 5: to have mentors, if you're fortunate enough to have friends 539 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 5: that'll keep it real with you, that'll be with you 540 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 5: through thick and thin, then hopefully you know it'll lead 541 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 5: you in the right direction. But you know, part of 542 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 5: that madness. If we look at Michael's life, you use 543 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 5: him as an example, all of being in that made 544 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 5: him the genius that he is. You know, being in 545 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: New York City with Biggie and Puff when he first 546 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: started Bad Boy Records, and kind of being in the 547 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: midst of you know, him working on my album with 548 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: La Reid as he employed him to give me whatever 549 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 5: it was swag. It kind of dimmed the light that 550 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 5: was my own and gave me something. It gave me hustle, 551 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 5: It gave me to nacity, It gave me you know, 552 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 5: that man gave me focus because the ain't nobody more 553 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: focused and got more hustle than Puff like in order 554 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: to understand how to get it and also to motivate 555 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 5: everybody around him to drive at their best. Yes, if 556 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 5: you ain't running at one hundred and twenty percent. You 557 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 5: ain't fucking with me. Get where I'm at and then 558 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 5: we'll see what we're talking about. Otherwise, get what you 559 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: can and I'll see you later. You'll thank me later. 560 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 5: But for real, that guy right there, he was a motivator. 561 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 5: And you know, everything that I was able to pick up, 562 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: I did manage to use at some point. No, my 563 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: first album wasn't the most wildly successful album, but when 564 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 5: I play it out there, I got day one fans 565 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: that love it and rather they go back and they 566 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 5: are a part of it. And I feel fortunate to 567 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: be able to you know, have have those you know, 568 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 5: those those songs in those moments. 569 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: But I really found my weight to my own light 570 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: when I got to my way. You know, I think too. 571 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: The thing I was thinking about it is like I 572 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: put you in a category of greats. Right, I'm sure 573 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people do do you do for yourself? 574 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: Do you think of yourself that way? 575 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, right, you have to think of yourself absolutely. 576 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: But some people would perceive that as like, you know, 577 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: being arrogant and conceive no. 578 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: It's just facts. 579 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just fact. This is a basketball game. In life. Right, 580 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 4: it's a football This is a football game in life. 581 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 5: If I go out on this field and I'm like 582 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 5: tiptoeing around, You're gonna knock my block off. I'm trying 583 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 5: to get to the hoop and I'm gonna go. I'm 584 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 5: gonna go through you. I'm gonna get through you to 585 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 5: get where I gotta go. You know what I'm saying. 586 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Well, like a. 587 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: Basketball player, the goal is the championship or the rings 588 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: or whatever the thing is. 589 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: It's one shot at a time. 590 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 5: Really, okay, it's one shot at a time and understanding 591 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 5: team balls. That's basketball. For music, it's similar. No one 592 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 5: man is an island. It's understanding that collaboration is important. 593 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 5: But you gotta believe this shit. You gotta believe that. 594 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: Yo, I can do this. Anything I put my mind to, 595 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: I can make it. I can do it. 596 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Say that to be a artist you have to be 597 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 1: a little bit delusional. You have to be a little nuts. 598 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's true. 599 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: You have to because you're thinking of it before anybody else. 600 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: So it didn't exist before you thought of it. 601 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: So you have to be able to think about something 602 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 4: and not only are you thinking of it, but you're 603 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: creating it. You're creating it in real time, and more 604 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 4: than likely it's driving you crazy because it's in your 605 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: mind and no one else can see it. 606 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 5: So you got to manage to motivate, push the envelope, 607 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 5: push yourself, and push everybody around you to believe what 608 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 5: you see. 609 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's so good. 610 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: But when you look at the greats, sometimes it makes 611 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: them crazy. 612 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: Chasing this. You're chasing MJ, or you're chasing whatever. If 613 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: you're a basketball player, you're chasing Lebron or Jordan or 614 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Do you feel like, next to MJ, 615 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: next to all the grades, that you are there or 616 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: are you still chasing a version of that for yourself? 617 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 5: Being able to walk in their footsteps was the first thing. 618 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 5: So I followed them, I studied them, I trained the 619 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 5: way they trained. I pushed myself the way they pushed themselves. 620 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: You know. 621 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 5: I analyzed what I knew versus what I didn't, and 622 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: tried to speak to a more broader audience and tried 623 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 5: to reach and reach and keep going. And you start here, 624 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 5: but then they managed to get here. Not the same 625 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 5: style of music, not the same genres, not the same production, 626 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 5: but the same amount. 627 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 4: Of commitment for me. 628 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, because I've been carrying their torch, because I've been 629 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 5: standing on their shoulders, and now I'm in a position 630 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 5: where I look forward and now hopefully somebody's coming behind 631 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: me standing on my shoulders and going to push it forward. Yeah, 632 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: I'll accept that. Yes, that that, by the way, was 633 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 5: always the plan. It was never to be big as Michael. 634 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 5: It was never to be big as Bobby, it was 635 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 5: never to be big as Stevie. 636 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: I just wanted the journey. I wanted to get there. 637 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 5: I wanted to manage to every day have some place 638 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 5: to go and someone to care about me being there 639 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 5: or actually going for it. Right when you create, like, Okay, 640 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: I just have to have this thing. I want the money. 641 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 5: When you get the money, what are you gonna do? 642 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 5: You made it about the money, it's over now. But 643 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 5: when the journey is the destination, you never stop reaching. 644 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: I don't know if I ever stop, and so long 645 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: as I'm able to be happy in doing it, and 646 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 5: hopefully you know, my fans will continue to carry me 647 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 5: in that process and celebrate what I'm making. 648 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: But the reason why I say that is because I feel. 649 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: Like I'm carrying a standard right greater than the points 650 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: that I'm putting on the board. The performers that they were, 651 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 5: the fact that their mics were actually on and they 652 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 5: were dancing and singing and performing and giving and leaving 653 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: it on the stage. That's what I picked up from them, 654 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 5: and I want to make sure that this generation didn't forget. 655 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: About that part. 656 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: Because it's easy to just put your TV track on 657 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: or either your song on, go up and have the 658 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 5: DJ's rocket in that sity. 659 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: And the crowd likes it and it's fine, and. 660 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: You gotta do the work. You got to put the 661 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: work in. All the young cats, yo, I know all 662 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: of them by the fact. 663 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: You're so good with them. I was wondering how much 664 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: of that is, Like. 665 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 5: I don't close my door to nobody. You know what 666 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 5: I'm saying, I'm big bro in that way. Unk whatever 667 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 5: you want to call me, I give the information because 668 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: it's important for us to continue to keep the legacy 669 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 5: moving forward. 670 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: Nobody should call you. 671 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: I mean some of them young enough too. You know 672 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 673 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: I don't feel like you unk status yet. 674 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: Come. I mean, I don't feel like nowhere near it, 675 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: you know. 676 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: I don't feel like. 677 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: You got a lot to do, but I feel like 678 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: you have You should have comforted knowing that if you 679 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: did nothing else, which I know you will do more 680 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: if you did nothing else, like you've done enough. 681 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that? 682 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: I always feel like there's more though, of course, yeah, but. 683 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: There's comfort and knowing. 684 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: The comfort in knowing is part of it. But not 685 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 4: feeling as though you have to prove something is what 686 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: I think. I hear you saying. Do I feel like 687 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: I have to prove something to anybody? 688 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 5: No, I'm in my own light, and I got my 689 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: own ideas and I'm pushing forward. And again, it's the 690 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: integrity of what it is that I collected in my life, 691 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 5: from these incredible grades that now has made me who 692 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 5: I am. So now I can just be who I am. 693 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: You can follow it. It ain't gonna be easy. 694 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: I ain't making it easy for you. 695 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: You shouldn't. 696 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: No, of course, not good. And then points do matter 697 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: in that light? You know what I'm saying. 698 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: But you're competitive, You're competitive a little bit. 699 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: A little bit. 700 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: I watched what other people are doing, and is there 701 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: people that are inspiring you. 702 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 5: Or you just say I'm encouraged. I don't know that 703 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 5: I'm you know, yeah, I'm encouraged. There are things that 704 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 5: do inspire me because you know, as I think, you know, 705 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 5: our culture changes and it flips, you know, music, R 706 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 5: and B, rhythm and blues, rather it turned into hip hop. 707 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: Rhythm and blues to me is the base of it all. 708 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: Jazz for rhythm and blues is really the base of 709 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 5: it all. And that was just this ever morphing thing 710 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 5: based off of the person's interpretation of it an instrument 711 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 5: that they picked up, or how. 712 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: They chose to use their instrument. Rather they it was 713 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: spoken word and they were spitting you know, bars, or 714 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: rather it was you know, miles through a horn, or 715 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: rather it was you know, Jimmy Hendrix throw a guitar. 716 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: You know. So for me being able to contribute to 717 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: any of it in this time, I'm happy. 718 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 5: Rather legendary status, I'm carrying the torch of everything that 719 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 5: I have seen and the things that I loved about 720 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 5: them had everything to do with integrity, had everything integrity 721 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 5: for the music, yeah, and integrity for. 722 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: The art and legendary status. That's exactly what I was 723 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: trying to get to. 724 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you got, you did it. 725 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why I feel so hard, Like 726 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 5: why I feel so hard just accepting that? 727 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that? 728 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 5: I don't know, you don't know about it? Is there 729 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: a moment I think something in our history? 730 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 6: Uh sure you are alleged, thank you? Yeah, yeah I 731 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 6: did that, you did. But I'm telling you something in 732 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 6: our history along the process. It's like, yo, be humble, Like, yeah, 733 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 6: be humble, but be proud that you can even do 734 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 6: any of it, because that's part of what's driving it, 735 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 6: you know this. 736 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: And it's also if you take yourself out of the equation, 737 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: because I think we're all here to share our gifts 738 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: with people, to write so that other people can take 739 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: from whatever they take from us. Yeah, the fact that 740 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: you are a legend and you have built that, it's 741 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: inspiring and it brings joy to people. So if you 742 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: don't acknowledge and accept that, it's almost like you're not 743 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: even giving it to the you know what I mean, 744 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: you don't even allow the people to fully feel that. 745 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 5: So what part of it is this the idea that 746 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 5: something is going to be taken away from you in 747 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: a moment's time. Never, No, But my point is it 748 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 5: could be something right. 749 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: That comes from you being a young kid coming up, 750 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: always trying. 751 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: To have a hit. 752 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 4: No, that's life. 753 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: Trying to be hot, be not hot. 754 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 5: That's life because in the Okay, let's say it's one 755 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 5: record that is not as successful as the other records. 756 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 5: Should I now not look at you as a legend 757 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 5: That happens with artists. 758 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: I think yes, But I think you have finally transcended that. 759 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: I think there are certain artists that if you never 760 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: make another record, or if you put out twenty horrible records, 761 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: it does not negate the legendary status that you've created. 762 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: That is not a thing that many people can claim. Yeah, 763 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: it's a handful of artists that are still relevant, that 764 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: are still active, that could claim that status. 765 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's a beautiful thing. 766 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: Don't argue with me about I ain't argue with you. 767 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: Hear did you hear what I said? 768 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 4: You there? Anything? 769 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: Is there anything else? 770 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: Anything more? 771 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm using our exercise of listening. 772 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: No, it's amazing, it's amazing. It seems inspiring. Man to me, 773 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: what makes the show so special? 774 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: Because it's like you feel that like it's just. 775 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: Whatever we should talk about that I saw this in 776 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: Was it the doc or is it the masterclass? Thing 777 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: when you talked about prepping for a show like this 778 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: that you do meditate with the dancers and the crew, 779 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, is that something. 780 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 2: You Is that new in your life or is that 781 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: a sinse therapy. 782 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 4: It's so since therapy before. 783 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 5: Actually, transcendental meditation was the first entrance into meditation for me, 784 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 5: and then other you know, forms of meditation. I really 785 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 5: picked up as I begin to kind of, you know, 786 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 5: just invest in this idea of mental health and how 787 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 5: we sustain. Being able to talk to someone having a 788 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 5: therapist or either someone who is of sound mind to 789 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 5: be able to share and you can be vulnerable and 790 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 5: have trust with is important. But then there are things 791 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 5: that we can do to really help file you know, 792 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 5: our thinking and all of the things that were collec 793 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 5: I think meditation is how I do that. Transcendental meditation 794 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 5: was the first way of doing it. It was like, 795 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 5: you know, basically a mantra, it's a word, and then 796 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 5: you kind. 797 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: Of, you know, my therapist keeps trying to get me 798 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: to do it, and I just I. 799 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 5: Want Silence is the hardest thing for any of us 800 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: to cope with, especially thinkers and incredible people, legendary people 801 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: like yourself. You want to get up and you move 802 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 5: like your legs, moving your hands. 803 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: Movie, it's so bad. 804 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: It's so bad, believe it or not. 805 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 5: Though transidental meditation teaches you not to run from that, right. 806 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 5: But again, there are other deeper forms of medication, meditation, medication, yeah, meditation. 807 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 4: That manages to really help. 808 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 5: But by the way, medication versus meditation, no medication versus meditation. 809 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 4: I would always go with meditation. 810 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 5: But it's very hard, especially for people who have a 811 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 5: great deal of pressure and expectation placed on them, because 812 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 5: there's this idea of having to live up to something 813 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 5: and you're then plugged with this activation of your brain 814 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 5: and you've now managed to get it in this place where 815 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 5: it's just constantly, constantly throwing you, ideas throwing you and 816 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 5: which one sticks? And what should you do? What shouldn't 817 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 5: you do? Oh, I'm gonna just I feel this, I'm 818 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 5: gonna do that. 819 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 4: I don't do that. 820 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 5: Don't When you manage to slow it down and be 821 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 5: in silence with yourself, rather you meditate, and you had 822 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 5: for me it started off at five minutes and three 823 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 5: intervals throughout an entire day. Then I managed to get 824 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 5: up to twenty minutes. Twenty minutes is really there is 825 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 5: a that's a standard. Twenty minutes, three times. 826 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 2: A day, three times a day. 827 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 4: Gotta do it. 828 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 5: Rather, you just choose manage to get up early enough 829 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 5: to just sit there in silence, even if your mind 830 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 5: is going. Just sit there in silence. Don't do anything, 831 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 5: don't pick your phone up, don't answer the phone, don't 832 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 5: respond to anybody, give yourself. 833 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: And what happens to you? 834 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: You just you're in a You're in a state right. 835 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 4: The most important. 836 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 5: Part of our entire being is our state of being. 837 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 5: What state of being are you in? Are you suffering 838 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 5: or are you not suffering? Those are the two states. 839 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 5: There's no other states to be in. You're the suffering 840 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 5: or you're not suffering. 841 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: Is that real? 842 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 4: It is real? 843 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: It is the only two states suffering. 844 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 5: You're either suffering or you're not. And if you're managed, 845 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 5: if you've managed to put yourself in a beautiful. 846 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 4: State of being right where you're not suffering. 847 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 5: Then you can manage to allow a universe to actually 848 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: unfold for you. Oh that's good, cause what's intended to 849 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: happen will You can try and fuck it up as 850 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 5: much as you want to. But if it's intended to happen, 851 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 5: it's gonna keep coming around until you finally get it. 852 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 5: You're to say, like, man, I knew something told me. 853 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 5: That's the universe telling you move this way, do this. 854 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 5: But if you're not in. 855 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 4: The right states, you're not gonna catch it. You're not 856 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 4: gonna see it. 857 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,959 Speaker 5: And if in this hectic state of mind and state 858 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 5: of being and suffering and trying to live or trying 859 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 5: to do this, you ain't gonna get to it. 860 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: That's so good. Yeah, suffering or not. 861 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 5: Suffering two states. There's two states of being. Yes, that's it. 862 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 5: You were either in a suffering state or a non 863 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 5: suffering state. 864 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: But if the answer is yes, I'm suffering, then what 865 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: is the Then that's part of the problem. 866 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 5: Okay, so now you know you're suffering. Now let's get 867 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 5: into why you are suffering. Ah, you begin to open 868 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 5: it up, you begin to understand. Man, it was something 869 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 5: that I had in my mind that I thought I 870 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 5: needed to fix. 871 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: As a kid, I was three. 872 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 5: I didn't know any difference any better, But that became 873 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 5: the ploy of how I look at my entire life. 874 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 5: Somebody told me no, so it was always no. So 875 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 5: I always thought No, I always thought I couldn't do that, 876 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 5: or I thought I shouldn't do that, or that was 877 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 5: the wrong thing to do. 878 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 4: This is deeper work, you know what I'm saying. 879 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 5: It forces you to go back and speak to your 880 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 5: your child sometimes, like get into the mind of where you're, 881 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: where you were, and where you picked up some idea. 882 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and why you're suffering? 883 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 884 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: Is this something you learned as something somebody taught you. 885 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 5: It's something that I've experienced and I managed to see 886 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 5: for myself in life through meditation, through you know, a 887 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 5: great deal of just patience with myself, studying, trying to 888 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 5: get myself in a better state of being where I'm 889 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 5: not walking around just suffering all day. 890 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 2: Were you suffering for a long time? 891 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 892 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 2: What was the cause of that? 893 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 4: My suffering? 894 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 5: I think primarily is the expectation to live up to 895 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 5: something or either something that was missing. Right, I need 896 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 5: to add something more to my life because I'm not 897 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 5: happy in this present moment. 898 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: I got to get to that other thing. You know, 899 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 4: does it. 900 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 2: Help you define it too? 901 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 4: Right? 902 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 2: If you don't even know who you're or recognize your suffering? 903 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 5: If you, I think more than likely all of us 904 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 5: are kind of stuck in the suffering state. It's the 905 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 5: state that you choose to set yourself in. When you're 906 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 5: actually meditating, you're more than likely calm enough and how 907 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 5: to let shit. And this enables you right from being 908 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 5: able to see what it is that you're dealing with. 909 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 4: I'm frantic. I gotta just go figure out. 910 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 5: Just wait a minute, just slow down, just just stop 911 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 5: for two seconds. Then you realize it's not as pressing 912 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 5: as you thought it was. 913 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm not even I don't know why I'm stressed out. 914 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm not even suffering. 915 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm not That's what it does to you, right, Do 916 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: you have that thought, like why am I even? 917 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 4: What can I do about it? Let me focus on 918 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 4: the positive. 919 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: It's so good. 920 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: I saw you telling the crowd that a little bit 921 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: on the first night of the show. You told everybody 922 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: to turn their phones off, to be in the moment. 923 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 4: And to be present. 924 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: Be present. 925 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: And then you said, I don't want to sound like 926 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: the old guy, old man, or I forget what the 927 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: words are used, but you reference. 928 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 5: No, I sound getting older, right, And you know it's 929 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 5: these mantras and things that older people are always coming 930 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 5: up with, like these wise tales, and you know what 931 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 5: I'm saying in the Land of the Blind, that one 932 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 5: eyed man is king ship like that. 933 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But I didn't. 934 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 5: I didn't want to, you know, serve it as rhetoric 935 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 5: or either anything like that. But yo, are we able 936 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 5: to be okay with no as much as we are 937 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 5: with yes wins as much as we are with losses, 938 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 5: because they're the same. We don't see it, but they are. 939 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: I've never heard it said like that. 940 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I've heard you know. 941 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: You learn from your mistakes. Everything is. 942 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 5: Everything is a process you learn from yours. I learned 943 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 5: something from my bestaut. 944 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: But I've never heard yes. It's the same as no. 945 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 5: It should be in our minds. We can't see it 946 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 5: that way because we're all kind of like looking for 947 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 5: the wind only. But there's measures, you know, there's measures 948 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 5: in life. There's time, there's there's a moment for everything. 949 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 5: And nothing is happening by coincidence. Everything is intended to happen. 950 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 5: You just don't fight it. If you choose or try to, 951 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 5: you're gonna make their process longer. 952 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: So good, Yeah, how are you doing with like? 953 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: Because this is like grown usher now, like, how did 954 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: you because you started so young, you're grown, you're still 955 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: you're still not unk status. 956 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say I am. I'm saying, if you're like 957 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 5: six years old, are you trying and you want to 958 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 5: call me up? 959 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 4: That's cool? 960 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 2: But how do you do? How have you dealt with age? 961 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: Because because famous people and sometimes that challenging, especially when 962 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: you start so young and you looked at as a kid, 963 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: or you looked at as this young, you know, and 964 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: now you're like a grown man four kids, Like, was 965 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: there ever a weird transition for you in that? 966 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 967 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 5: I mean it became painstakingly obvious when I had to 968 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 5: deal with a thirteen year old a fourteen year old 969 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 5: who you know, are like in need of parenting, and 970 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 5: you know, as complicated as it is to be our parents, 971 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 5: it now that we're on the other side of it. 972 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 4: As an entertainer, I don't know. 973 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 5: I think that in you know, the eyes of my fans, 974 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 5: I guess I'm as old as the experience that they've had. 975 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 5: Rather they had it then or rather they're still having 976 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 5: it now. So I don't know if music is able 977 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 5: to give you age in that way. I think if anything, 978 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 5: it preserves your age because you go back. 979 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: To that moment. 980 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 5: And for me, I'm actually working my way back in 981 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 5: it every time i'm performing it. Rather i'm you know, 982 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 5: doing a handstand or you know, you still moving thing, 983 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 5: trying to get the body right in order to have 984 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 5: that shirt off whatever. 985 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: You're not doing any weird old man. 986 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes the dance as you get older has 987 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: a little some of our favorites the dance a little 988 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: later on it starts to get well, you're showing no 989 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: signs of that. 990 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 4: Well. 991 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 5: For me, the performance had always been a major part 992 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 5: of who I was, so it's always kept me young 993 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 5: because that was the fun part of it, you know. 994 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: But not everybody that transition from child to young to 995 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: grown comfortably, especially if people in the public eye. 996 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: They fight it and. 997 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: We see them fighting, and it's never it's always uncomfortable 998 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: to watch. But I don't think we've ever seen any 999 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: kind of weird transition. Maybe internally you had one, but 1000 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: we didn't see it. 1001 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 5: You weren't like I think, if anything, that transition probably 1002 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 5: was difficult between me and my mom, and very difficult 1003 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 5: because of our work relationship that then became family relationship, right, 1004 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 5: and I think ultimately it had always just been about 1005 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 5: my mom wanting me to be the best or have 1006 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 5: the best, or not go through any kind of pain, 1007 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 5: which is her own suffering. Because she's thinking about what 1008 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 5: she went through and not looking at me for where 1009 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 5: I am suffering. 1010 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 2: She must be proud now. 1011 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 5: She's very proud now because she understands that no matter 1012 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 5: what she may have wanted, what was intended to happen, 1013 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 5: would always going to be good, always going to get 1014 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 5: where we were, and our relationship as mother and son 1015 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 5: is more important than anything. And now we can have 1016 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 5: all the other stuff. 1017 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: And she got these grand babies. 1018 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 4: Now she got grand babies that she got to deal 1019 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 4: with four Yeah, and she loves dealing with them. 1020 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 2: Of course they do. I hear. It's easier to be 1021 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 2: a Grandparent's more fun being a grandparent. You get to 1022 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 2: do all the fun stuff. 1023 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, until you meet Sinco, my oldest son. He's fourteen. 1024 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 5: But now they have their code. I don't know if 1025 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 5: I go through the thing. 1026 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 4: With grandma the way normal. 1027 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 5: You know, everybody else says, you know, when grandparents get 1028 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 5: their kids, they just let them get away with everything. 1029 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 4: Because my mom she's still on it. Yeah, she's still young, 1030 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 4: she's still on it. 1031 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, how's being a dad changed you? And a new 1032 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: and a recent kind of girl dad? 1033 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: Now? 1034 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, girl dad has definitely made me you so off. 1035 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 5: I was just in a jumpy house, no socks. Yeah 1036 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 5: I went pump patching. Yeah, I did it with my 1037 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 5: boys too, But with your daughter is a different thing. 1038 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 5: Like I'm literally walking her through everything and trying to 1039 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 5: make sure I'm I'm the bodyguard. 1040 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, security on stage last night. Then he was at 1041 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: the after party, and then he was at the pumpkin. 1042 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 5: Patch pumpkin patch, and then getting ready for school. You know, hey, yep, 1043 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 5: you got what you need. You know, noticed something yesterday? 1044 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 5: You miss class? No, I did miss class that I 1045 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 5: was a tutoring Okay, got it great. Just wanna make 1046 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 5: sure I'll let you know I see it. What's going 1047 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 5: on here? 1048 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 4: It? Yeah, of course you gotta be. 1049 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, My responsibilities as a dad 1050 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 5: is more important than anything that I do here. You know, 1051 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 5: that's what changed me to be able to say that 1052 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 5: I could be you know, uh that for my kids. 1053 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 5: I suffered a long time you know, analyzing uh and 1054 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 5: making moves based off of the fact that I didn't 1055 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 5: have a dad. I wanted things to be perfect because 1056 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 5: I didn't have it right, or I wanted to try 1057 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 5: to do the perfect thing in order to make sure 1058 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 5: that I didn't make my son feel like I felt 1059 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 5: my own suffering had nothing to do with him. 1060 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? How that does it to us our parents? 1061 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: Like I just did my last episode I did with 1062 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: Kelly Rowland, and we're talking about daddy issues and it's 1063 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: like for women especially, you know, daddy issues is like 1064 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: a big thing, but we never really talk about, like men, 1065 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: what that does, What that does to you? 1066 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, not being there or either being around, but 1067 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 5: you know, kind of being an absentee. And probably because 1068 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 5: it's just the standards of where life was for men 1069 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 5: back in those times. You know, it's always kind of 1070 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 5: been this idea, you know, don't cry, you soft if 1071 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 5: you cry. I don't believe in that. I believe that 1072 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 5: your kids can cry, but they need to get up 1073 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 5: and to keep moving. You know, it's all right to 1074 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 5: be vulnerable, it's all right to have moments. Don't with everybody, 1075 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 5: because they ain't everybody's business. But to have a dad 1076 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 5: that you could talk to and you know, be able 1077 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 5: to be transparent with to help your kids. I think 1078 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 5: it's important to have that for men in our time. 1079 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 5: Earlier it probably wouldn't. I can't say it because my 1080 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 5: dad wasn't that I wasn't. I didn't have that kind 1081 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 5: of relationship with with my dad, you know. But changed 1082 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 5: everything about me. I think it made it gave me 1083 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 5: true responsibility, you know, it gave purpose for those late, late, 1084 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 5: late nights. Like I did that anyway in my life, 1085 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 5: but as a father, you do it for a different reason, 1086 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 5: with a different outcome, or at least expectation for an outcome. 1087 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: Are you a good dad? 1088 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 5: Do you think now that though I can be tough 1089 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 5: at sometimes, you know, And I think I managed to 1090 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 5: make everybody feel like I'm your dad, everybody's daddy, everybody's dad. 1091 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 4: I just want everybody to, you know, to be their 1092 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 4: greatest man. 1093 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 2: And what do you ask God for most? What do 1094 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 2: you pray for? 1095 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 4: What do I pray for most? 1096 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 5: Because everything his grace covering, I pray more than anything, 1097 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 5: given thanks that I'm able to pray, that I actually 1098 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 5: have the voice to be able to share it, the 1099 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 5: fact that He's chosen you know me. And also two 1100 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 5: people around as vessels for some purpose that could help 1101 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 5: me through life and also to help a lot of people. 1102 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 5: I pray for my children, I pray for my loved ones. 1103 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 5: I pray for those who are my soul circle, the 1104 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,919 Speaker 5: people who is I love that, Yeah, the people who matter, 1105 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 5: you know, for life and will affect those people who 1106 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 5: because by the way, in this soul circle are all 1107 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 5: people who affect each other. Rather it's my mom, or 1108 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 5: my children, or my ex wife or you know, people 1109 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 5: who have been there. You know what I'm saying that 1110 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 5: shit gets hard, you know, but praying a covering over 1111 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 5: for the sake of making sure that as we go 1112 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 5: into the next season or whatever life has to offer. 1113 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 5: For my kids who have kids, you know that they 1114 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 5: don't bring the same issues that we had in ours 1115 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 5: into theirs. That we can remedy and fix some of 1116 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 5: those things. 1117 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 4: You know, what do you. 1118 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 2: Think now, because everybody's purpose? 1119 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: I think, well, no, some people they're born, they feel 1120 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: like they have a purpose, they know what it is. 1121 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes they change throughout our lives. 1122 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you know what yours is? 1123 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 5: We know it has something to do with music so far, 1124 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 5: but I think after that, rather it's an example of 1125 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 5: a business because business has obviously been a part of 1126 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 5: my life, not as much as a priority, but to 1127 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 5: be recognized as a businessman that. 1128 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 4: Speaks through I would have never guessed that. 1129 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I've been I've made plays, I've done things, 1130 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 5: I've had involvement in major things, and also to more 1131 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 5: than anything, have been oddly enough of usher for other 1132 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 5: people to be able to be introduced into spaces and 1133 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 5: have benefited from that, don't get me wrong, But to 1134 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 5: now be in a position to prepare people and to 1135 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 5: create a standard, a standard that we can benefit from, 1136 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 5: an ecosystem that I think that we can benefit from 1137 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 5: better than happen to rely so much on infrastructure that's 1138 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 5: been set before we got here. 1139 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 4: So that's really my next focus. 1140 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: So you're going to go back to the student. I 1141 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: know you're in this moment, but I'm not done. Okay, no, no, no, no, no, 1142 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: no done. No matter of fact, I don't care what 1143 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: business I'm in. I'm going to still make music and 1144 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: also to either be a part of creativity in that 1145 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: space of music because it's something that I know so well. 1146 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: I understand what it is, I understand how to do it, 1147 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: and I don't take it for granted, but I love 1148 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: to be able to be creative in that space. 1149 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 4: But business that's. 1150 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 5: In a lifestyle that is aspirational, that is a part 1151 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 5: of our culture that leads to some sense of knowledge 1152 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 5: for all of our people to be able to continue 1153 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 5: to collect it and utilize it or either benefit from it. 1154 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 2: Is this something that's happening already there. 1155 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 5: There's many things, you know, you know, me and la 1156 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 5: Reed have been working together. Yes, you know, we hadn't 1157 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 5: been working together for a very long time, you know, 1158 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 5: so to be able to be back in each other's lives, 1159 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 5: and I think that he's been such a valuable commodity, 1160 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 5: you know, for so many industries and you know, and 1161 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 5: so many incredible entities. But now to be able to 1162 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 5: come together and have ownership in what we're building for 1163 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 5: a future label. 1164 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,479 Speaker 4: It's going to be that in thens and. 1165 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: Then some yep, a network and a label or something 1166 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: like this. They're very mysterious. 1167 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 2: Well, but I'm excited whatever it is, we'll follow. 1168 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 5: I'm being mysterious because you know you're in the process. 1169 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 5: We're in the process. But you've seen us together, right, 1170 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 5: you better watch this. You know what I'm saying, but 1171 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 5: we we've been around each other recently, you know, just 1172 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 5: just reminding ourselves of why we got started and what 1173 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 5: it was about, where it came from, looking at and 1174 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 5: analyzing the things that have happened in life, what could 1175 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 5: have been better, what we could have done differently, and 1176 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 5: the importance of our legacy and the aspiration of what 1177 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 5: it is that we created, you know, and really being 1178 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 5: a product of it through and through, not just talking 1179 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 5: it because we talk it a lot. A lot of 1180 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 5: us talk about this collaboration and my brothers and us 1181 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 5: sticking together, no really doing it, sticking together and building 1182 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 5: you know. 1183 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 2: This sounds exciting. 1184 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, did this surprise you? 1185 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 5: Well, I didn't know it would be as wildly successful 1186 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 5: as it was. Thank God for Eddie Bishop Long who 1187 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 5: created watch This. I don't know if y'all ever heard that. 1188 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 4: You know, I'm you know, as a as a kid, 1189 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 4: his sermons I used to go to and he would 1190 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 4: always do this, watch this, Watch this kind of picked 1191 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 4: it up. 1192 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 3: He didn't do. 1193 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 5: He't put that part together. Yeah, I just my own 1194 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 5: little remix up. But and it was a part of 1195 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 5: you know, confessions, like it's always. 1196 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 4: Been on the record. But I never kind of gave 1197 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 4: it a little meme visual. 1198 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 5: But by the way, memes were not a part of 1199 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 5: that culture at that time, and that was just having fun. 1200 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 4: Man. But y'all definitely watched this because there's something coming. 1201 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 2: I can't wait till you're ready to talk about it. Yeah, 1202 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 2: I look forward to that. 1203 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be fun. 1204 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for today. Thank you for an amazing weekend. 1205 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna need b roll. I need to show people. 1206 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 2: Please you come back. You're gonna do it for more, right, 1207 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 2: because I keep telling people you got to see this. 1208 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 4: Sadly enough, I think by the time this is you know, 1209 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 4: it'll be over. So yeah, please, should there be. 1210 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 2: A documentary or something around it? There has to be, right, Yeah, okay, 1211 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 2: that's way it works. 1212 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 4: Of all that good stuff. Please monetizing. 1213 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 1: It's really magical. It really you bring in so much 1214 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: joy to people. 1215 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very happy to be able to have done 1216 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 5: it now and be on the lookout for new music 1217 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 5: next year. 1218 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 3: And you are a legend. 1219 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 4: I am a legend, asher Baby. 1220 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 2: Thank you