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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your

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Speaker 1: war room for incenter news and craft analysis from deep

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Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Smith and now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: Today is Wednesday, February fifteenth, twenty twenty three. We are

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Speaker 1: now just seventy two days away from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. And this is the Draft Show presented

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Speaker 1: by Miller Light Light from the Star in Frisco and

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Studios alongside Brian Brottis in studio, I'm Kyle Yeoman's.

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Speaker 1: We've got Cris Beam in the back running things and

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Speaker 1: joined again on the phone line remotely from Ohio, the

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Speaker 1: great Dame Brugler from the Athletic joining us again. Our

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Speaker 1: live studio audience loves it as well. We've got two

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Speaker 1: of the greatest draft minds the media. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: thank you on this show. At the same time, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a fun one. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: it is fun. It is a lot of fun. And

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Speaker 1: when you know, we're gonna miss Aisha today, hopefully she'll

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Speaker 1: be back with us tomorrow. But Bobby too and Bobby,

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Speaker 1: but to have to have Dane on, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: go so far back with this guy and now to

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Speaker 1: see all the success and the way he handles that success,

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Speaker 1: but also the way he handles the criticism to keep

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Speaker 1: coming back and doing this, I think is is a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. I love. I love working

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Speaker 1: with this man. I have for I've loved watching him

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Speaker 1: grow as a draft analysis guy. I think he's one

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Speaker 1: of the best in the business. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what if I if I ever was a general manager again,

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Speaker 1: which probably will never happen to Dan, I'm sorry about this,

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Speaker 1: that would be the first cat I'd hire. But I'd

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Speaker 1: go to work for this guy too if he was

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Speaker 1: a general manager, because he'd probably a lot better general

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Speaker 1: manager than me. But you think, I'm perfectly fine, uh

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Speaker 1: doing this with with you guys you know on the

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Speaker 1: media side. Been over ten years now, Yeah, yeah, ten

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Speaker 1: years we've been doing this. Uh and you know our

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Speaker 1: conversations on air, off the air about these guys. Um, No,

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Speaker 1: I've I've learned so much from you, and so it's

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Speaker 1: it's been fun to apply that into my own scouting. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's wait criticize people who are criticizing stuff. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what, man, you're learning. You're learning how to handle

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Speaker 1: it because it's it's that they don't always they don't

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Speaker 1: always see this eye to eye. You know. I tell

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Speaker 1: you what. It used to bother me, and now it

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Speaker 1: doesn't bother me anymore. I just talk about ice cream,

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Speaker 1: your rocky roads, my chocolate chip. Man. We're all good here,

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Speaker 1: just as long as you put in the work. Now

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Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want, right, you got it.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that that Brian's bringing up criticism

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Speaker 1: because part of my goal today is to get you

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Speaker 1: guys to fight over one player, all right. I just

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Speaker 1: I want one guy that I want to see you

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Speaker 1: mano emano one on one. He's gonna he's gonna like

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Speaker 1: a slow He's gonna like a slow footed guard from Florida.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you that you like good players. The guy's

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Speaker 1: a slow footed guard. You know it. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: That's the first name on my list. I might be

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Speaker 1: really good at this. So I want to hit some

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Speaker 1: a great thing. Man. What's really cool about this whole

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Speaker 1: process is that there are so many opinions. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: many loyal and true fans that are are not just

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Speaker 1: So you start to see these names emerge out of

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Speaker 1: I want to hit some of those names and hopefully

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Speaker 1: And one of them is the slow footing card out

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Speaker 1: of Florida that Brian just brought up. Oh, Cyrus Torrence.

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Speaker 1: He's an offensive lineman. He's got some skill to him,

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Speaker 1: He followed his head coach Billy Napier to Florida this

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Speaker 1: a guy do you want on the move all the time? No,

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Speaker 1: to limit what you could do up from Let me

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Speaker 1: over am I over analyzing the movement part of it?

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Speaker 1: disservice to use the word slow with him, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: Now if you are a an offensive line and offense

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Speaker 1: So then you can know that's that's fair because to me,

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Speaker 1: I really really don't know. If there's some teams that

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Speaker 1: a bully type of a player. We'll see with Mike Solari.

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Speaker 1: you think about it. Are we gonna four quarterbacks going

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Speaker 1: the top twelve fifteen? H you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: some you know, if that happens, that's gonna push guys

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Speaker 1: back maybe a little bit. This is uh now, I

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Speaker 1: think corner is obviously a premium position in to his NFL,

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Speaker 1: so you know, tackles edge rusher's corners, these guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna go pretty early. And I think Joey Porter is

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Speaker 1: just there's too much there for Yeah, I totally agree

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Speaker 1: and yeah yeah, and the aggressiveness is a double edged sword.

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Speaker 1: He'll make early contact, he'll uh you know, get himself

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Speaker 1: in trouble at times. But I mean he's long, he's physical,

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Speaker 1: he's athletic. Teams will trust that and bet on those

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Speaker 1: traits all day with him. I've seen the seat dealers

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Speaker 1: looking at him at seventeen too. So even if he

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Speaker 1: ends up slipping to seventeen nineteen twenty, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he even makes it. I just I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he gets to Dallas. I just that's in my mind.

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Speaker 1: And someone reminded me on Twitter. They're like, listen, well ceedee,

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Speaker 1: lamb got to you. That was once in a well

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Speaker 1: you had a situation too where you had a couple

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Speaker 1: of teams that took wide receivers. Rugs went, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Judy went before that's yeah, that's how you get Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, last one before we take our first break.

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Speaker 1: Drew Sanders out of Arkansas. We kind of mentioned him

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Speaker 1: a little bit on this show, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: we've dove in the way that we should around him.

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Speaker 1: He's a local prospect. Went to Denton Ryan High School,

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Speaker 1: was offensive player, defensive player, did a little bit of everything,

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Speaker 1: went to Alabama, then transferred to Arkansas, and then blew

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Speaker 1: up in Fayetteville. Brian, what have you seen when you

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Speaker 1: look at Sanders. I'll tell you what, though, I'm The

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Speaker 1: thing that's impressment about him to me is that the

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Speaker 1: way that he's also can rush the passer, and I

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Speaker 1: really really really like that. I think that this guy

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Speaker 1: plays really well in space. I think he takes on

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Speaker 1: blockers I think he uses his hands. I think they

463
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Speaker 1: leverage the power. I think he could walk blockers back.

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Speaker 1: He kind of gets himself free. He can get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback too. And I mentioned that about him as

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher, but the thing that he does is

467
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Speaker 1: that extending his hands, he gets him there quickly and

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Speaker 1: then he's able to get rid of that blocker and

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Speaker 1: get to the ball. You know, he's a transfer from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I just think there's so many things that he was

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Speaker 1: so well coached, you know, going from Alabama to Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: I mean you see the instincts, you see the awareness

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Speaker 1: and the fact that he actually can see him rush

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Speaker 1: the passer. I think that makes him even more valuable.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Dane. Yeah, he's he's long, he's lean,

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Speaker 1: he's athletic, and he's really he's cunning, you know, and

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Speaker 1: as you see that as off the ball and you

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Speaker 1: see it as an edge rusher, where you know, he

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Speaker 1: has instincts in both areas where he can he can

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Speaker 1: make plays. Above all, you want guys that can make

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Speaker 1: plays at this position, right, Okay, Well, he's the only

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Speaker 1: the second FBS player sends like two thousand to have

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Speaker 1: at least ninety five tackles, at least twelve tackles for

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Speaker 1: a loss, at least eight saves, at least three force fumbles,

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Speaker 1: and at least one interception. The only other guy to

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Speaker 1: do that in college football in the last twenty five

487
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Speaker 1: years is Khalil Mack. This guy. If you want someone

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Speaker 1: that will make plays, this guy did it. He filled

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Speaker 1: the stat sheet this past year at Arkansas and it

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Speaker 1: reflects on tape as well. With the movement skills and

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Speaker 1: he's position wise, he's almost like a do everything front

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Speaker 1: salmon defender where you know you want him to blitz,

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Speaker 1: he can give you that you want him to drop

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Speaker 1: in coverage. He does some nice things there. You know,

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Speaker 1: I still think there's some things he's working out in

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Speaker 1: terms of taking on blocks, and you know it's there.

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Speaker 1: There's something because yeah, he played a lot of offense

498
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Speaker 1: in high school, grew up into Oregon. His dad's a

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Speaker 1: high school coach, so I mean he's been preparing this

500
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Speaker 1: for a long time. I mean he's the type of

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Speaker 1: guy that's been watching his nutrition since he was ten

502
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Speaker 1: years old, waiting for this moment. So this is someone

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Speaker 1: that is you're getting a pro I think we'll hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of Layton Vanderesh comparisons as we get closer

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Speaker 1: to a player like this, But you know, he's He's

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Speaker 1: a guy I want to see cut down on the

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Speaker 1: miss tackles, and I think his best football is ahead

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Speaker 1: of him. He's more athletic than Lvee, right, Dan, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's just a little bit more slender, moves better from

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Speaker 1: a standpoint, but probably Yeah, I think at least he's

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Speaker 1: stuck out from the early days. I did a lot

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Speaker 1: of high school football work back in the day when

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Speaker 1: he was a Denton Ryan, like you said, preparing since

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Speaker 1: he was a kid to be this guy. He was

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Speaker 1: a man playing amongst boys. He was one of those

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Speaker 1: guys you knew would go to Alabama have some success.

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Speaker 1: It didn't happen in Tuscaloosa, had happened in Fayetteville, but goodness,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was all over the field for the

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Speaker 1: Razorbacks this past year. All right, let's take our first

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. Starting off with Stewart, our friend. Stewart says,

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Speaker 1: when prioritizing picks, what do you what positions do you

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Speaker 1: want to take early in the draft if the value

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Speaker 1: is there? And what positions would you rather want to

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Speaker 1: take later? Brian, Because you don't want to window dress

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Speaker 1: your board. No, you don't wanna, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: get too cute with it. No, but there are certain

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Speaker 1: values and places that you can take certain positions. I

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Speaker 1: think it goes really from draft to draft. Dane am

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Speaker 1: am I going down the right path there because to me,

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Speaker 1: I just think, especially when you're picking at the back

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Speaker 1: end of the draft, you have to be very mindful

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Speaker 1: of letting the board come to you. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: start to see a guy slide that you really really like,

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Speaker 1: where you start to see they'll be pockets of players.

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Speaker 1: Dane will tell you in this draft he really likes

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Speaker 1: the running backs. He'll tell you that he really likes

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Speaker 1: the corners in this draft. You know, he'll tell you

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Speaker 1: know he probably won't be as high on the wide receivers. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm putting all these words in Dane's mouth, but I

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Speaker 1: just I trust this guy. He probably will tell you

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Speaker 1: that the wide receivers are not as strong as they've

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Speaker 1: been the last couple of years. I think there's certain

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Speaker 1: positions that you just look at and you know in

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Speaker 1: this draft that like, okay, if if I wait, where's

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Speaker 1: the quality of guy? And I always believe this, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're picking at the back end, you cannot select

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Speaker 1: a player early enough. If somebody's all that's a reach.

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Speaker 1: That's a reach. No, you tell me if I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get back to my spot in the second round

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Speaker 1: or late in the third round, that that same player

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Speaker 1: is going to be there. No, it doesn't happen that way.

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Speaker 1: So you have to be ready to maybe go for

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Speaker 1: a player maybe a round earlier than you would think,

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Speaker 1: especially at the back end of the draft. I just

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Speaker 1: feel like that, but you could also you know, you'll

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Speaker 1: see those positions and you feel like Okay, I could

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more patient shit at corner because

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like all the guys are the

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Speaker 1: are legitimately the same type of a player or a

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Speaker 1: defensive end. Yeah, Guad Dane, I think you nailed it

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Speaker 1: brought us when you said that it depends draft to draft.

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Speaker 1: There are some drafts where you look at your board

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Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, corner just drops off after the

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Speaker 1: third round. I mean, we just don't have any day

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Speaker 1: three corners we love, right, so let's make sure we

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Speaker 1: get one in the first three rounds. So I think

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Speaker 1: it just really depends on the flip side. You know,

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Speaker 1: look at this running back class. It is absolutely loaded

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Speaker 1: in the top four rounds, and that's something that you

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Speaker 1: know it's gonna end up affecting where Bijean Robinson goes

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Speaker 1: Bejean Robinson is one of the best talents in this draft,

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But he's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: an he plays and the fact that some teams will

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Speaker 1: look at it and say, you know what, we've got

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Speaker 1: starter level grades on guys that are going to go

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Speaker 1: in the third maybe even someone Eric Gray from Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: might fall to the fourth. Yeah, we feel really good

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Speaker 1: about some of these guys, so we're let's take a

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Speaker 1: tackle here in the first round and let's wait to

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Speaker 1: get our running back later. So it just a drafted draft.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll really really change up based off of

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Speaker 1: the draft board and how teams feel about the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you set your board, you will be able to see,

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Speaker 1: like they're stacked in there like club sandwiches. You know,

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Speaker 1: the players are all stacked in and you try and

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't want to shove all these

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Speaker 1: guys into that second round. And you know, it'll remind

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639
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Speaker 1: when you lay it all out, they'll start getting picked

640
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: off and then you'll have two or three tags on

641
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: a particular player and you're like, okay, I could trade

642
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: back if I have to, because I got the same

643
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: player right there. You know, the corners might be the same,

644
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, if whether you take you know, whatever corner

645
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: you might take, there might be two or three of

646
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: those guys that are kind of the same guy. Yeah,

647
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: so you're not. It's like, okay, I can if if

648
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: people are trying to come get your pick, you know,

649
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: you can make that determination, or you're like, like Dane's

650
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: talking about, if I don't take this guy right now,

651
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: the drop off is so bad, I'm not going to

652
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: be able to get another one like him. That makes

653
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot of teams have to like push and go

654
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: get a guy, particularly off that board. My producer mine

655
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: is starting the churn with the conversation here. I think

656
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: we would have a lot of fun if we brought

657
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: a white board in here. Sure, and you've always talked

658
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: about this show being very much so like a war room. Yeah,

659
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: putting up a white board and then I'll run through

660
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: scenarios with everybody and trying and we can actually build

661
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: a board together because we all build our own boards.

662
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Dane's got his, You've got yours, I've got mine. We

663
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: build these boards and then but you do it as

664
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: scouts and then you come together and you build one,

665
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: right cons this board. Yeah, so that might be something

666
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: we look at on the horizon, kind of like that idea.

667
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: All right, Charlie asked who are some of the the

668
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: possible guard prospects that the Cowboys can look at, and

669
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: rounds one through four we already hit outside. His touris

670
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: in the first part of the show. If you'd missed it,

671
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: you can rewind to go listen to that one. He's

672
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the ones in the first round. But are

673
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: there any other guard prospects in this draft that excites you,

674
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Dane when it comes to the Cowboys and where they're picking,

675
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: whether it's in the first round at twenty six, second

676
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: round of fifty nine, or so on and so forth. Yeah, sure,

677
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty decent guard group in

678
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: that range. Big fan of Cody Mock for North Dkota State.

679
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, whether you play him guard center, I think

680
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: you can do it. Former walk on at tight end

681
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: is obviously built up his strength and his frame, but

682
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: the movement skills, the tenacity that he brings. You know,

683
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: I just going down to the Senior Bowl and him

684
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: just where do you want me to play left guard? Okay,

685
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: never played there. I grew like That's just that's how

686
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: he attacks it. And I think that there will be

687
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of a learning curve for him going

688
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: from the FCS to do the NFL, and obviously it's

689
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: a big talent jump and then changing positions. He was

690
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: a left tackle in college and so there will be

691
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: a learning curve and some roadbumps for him. But I

692
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: think in the long run you will be happy that

693
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: you drafted Cody Mocks, probably somewhere in the second round.

694
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: And then you know Steve a Vila from TCU is

695
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be interested to hear Brian's thoughts if

696
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: he If Brian thinks of him kind of in the

697
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: same vein as Osiris Torrence in terms of not being

698
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: the best mover, but you want him to win confined spaces.

699
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: He could do that. One more name I wanted to

700
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: mention once you get into the third round and then

701
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: maybe even to the fourth. Nick Selidivry from Old Dominion.

702
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: He's another name to keep on the radar. Tackle in college,

703
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: probably a guard in the NFL. I think he had

704
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: a nice week down there at the Senior Bowl, and

705
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: I think it's put himself in that third fourth round range. Now, yeah,

706
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: when I ask you this, Dane, how about Jordan McFadden

707
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: from Clemson And the thing that kind of worries me

708
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: a little bit about him as being six two was

709
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: at his measurement? Is that what he is? Because working

710
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: again off the six two three oh five, he was

711
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: the starting left tackle at Clemson, and you're kind of

712
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: right about a via by the way from TCU, that

713
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: kind of that same. I really to me though, the

714
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: further the heart, the further he has to go, the

715
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: harder it is for him to block. You know, That's

716
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: kind of what I was kind of thinking about with him.

717
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: But I was also looking at this, like I say,

718
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: I was looking there's McClendon from Georgia, who I think

719
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: is six foot six four, three hundred pounds. Again, when

720
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: I'm working off of right there, more of an athlete,

721
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: more of a longer guy, you know, long limb, thin build,

722
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: kind of a guy initial quickness, struggles a little bit

723
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: with the sustain and the balance a little bit. But

724
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: if you I like McFadden, I don't like the fact

725
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: that he's six two though, that that's that's kind of

726
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: an issue for me. Or am I seeing a guy

727
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: that that that? You know, it's you know, it was

728
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: just rare to watch him put his hand on the ground.

729
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: But the pass set the balance, you know, I mean

730
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, you've seen him get jerked

731
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: out of his stance a little bit, you know, but

732
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: does he have the link to keep defenders off him?

733
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: You know, I just feel like that kind of like

734
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: that to me, there's like that fit and run with

735
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: his guy. You know, the guards that I've got through

736
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: so far on this board, I'm a little bit nervous about.

737
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not I'm not sitting there jumping up

738
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: and down. And maybe the best one that we talked

739
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: about was Torrents. You know, if you're going to go

740
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: that route, you know, because the other ones, I think

741
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: they all kind of have their awards to their game.

742
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: I think that's fair with McFadden because he's, like he said,

743
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: he's a left tackle who would be making a transition

744
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: down to guard. Six two doesn't bother me as much

745
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: at guard because I think with he has decent length

746
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: to him. He has almost thirty four inch arms. Yeah, okay,

747
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, a little disproportionate to his height, but you

748
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: get him with that length and you know he can

749
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: quick win I think inside of guards. So now McFadden

750
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: didn't make my top one hundred, he was probably one

751
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: of the top ten fifteen guys that just missed. So

752
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: we're still talking about a third, fourth round guy. But

753
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: in that mix, obviously they're in that range for a

754
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: reason and not in the first two rounds, and so

755
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: got to be fat and you're you're sacrificing a little bit.

756
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 1: One other name to mention McClendon Curtis from Chattanooga, Okay,

757
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: who had a really good week at the Senior Bowl.

758
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: I think he you know, he did make my top

759
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: one hundred. He would be a possible third round option.

760
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: I think he needs a little more work than some

761
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: of these other guys we've been talking about though. Going

762
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: back to and by the way, I like McClendon Curtis

763
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: because you watched those Senior Bowl practices. He was one

764
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: of the guys from a smaller school where in the

765
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: past they've had some ute Chattanooga guys out there and

766
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: they haven't necessarily banned out or they haven't a little Well,

767
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: that's a great thing about strange Dane and I we

768
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: can all of us can talk about Ali Marpett and

769
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: what he did at Hobart. So don't let a small

770
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: school Kyle Dugger Kyle. I mean, yeah, there's there's some

771
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: guys that have stepped in and played played well in

772
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: this league being from those small school and that's a

773
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: big reason and the Senior Bowl is as successful as

774
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: it has been. Absolutely, going back to McClinton, one of

775
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: the things that I wrote down when watching the Senior Bowl,

776
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of things that he's

777
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: good at. There's nothing that he's great at. And then

778
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: with his size, I mean he's listed during the Senior Bowl.

779
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: He was listed at six four, two ninety. Yeah, if

780
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: he's at two ninety, I don't need lower body stiffness,

781
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: and he was stiff multiple times throughout the tape. Throughout

782
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I thought I looked at his game

783
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: and I didn't love the movement below the waist. And

784
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: if if you're not able to move at two ninety,

785
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: what happens whenever you get up to three ten, Well

786
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: then you're at three oh five. Well here's one of

787
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: these positions. So you know, the Cowboys are looking potentially

788
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: at you know, potentially at a left guard. Yeah, and

789
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: you know, do you have enough candidates? You know, like

790
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: to Dane's point, Torrents at twenty six, if you're gonna

791
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go make that make that play. You

792
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: want to fix the left guard spot, you go get

793
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Torrents because other than that, I don't think your options

794
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: are particularly great. Again, I haven't seen all the guards yet. Yeah,

795
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: but that I'm getting a little nervous about the ones

796
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I have been seeing. Have y'all seen or I know,

797
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Dane seen McClendon go for a day. He's he's actually

798
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: three thirty. He was three thirty at the Senior Bowl.

799
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's massive. I mean he's he's a

800
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: guy that has actually damn mean, he was much heavier

801
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: than that. I think three thirty is a good spot

802
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: for him. He just needs to learn that in the

803
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: NFL he won't gible to overpower everybody. That that's so

804
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Warren McClinton, Georgia three thirty, I mean we had him.

805
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: I've got him at two ninety. Are you talking about

806
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: Chatten Nougat McClinton. Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah, mclennen Curtis, Yeah, Okay, okay,

807
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: McClinton Curtis is three thirty. Yeah, I haven't seen. I

808
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: haven't seen the Chatta kid myself. The Warren McClendon was

809
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: who I was saying at two ninety Dane gotcha, okay,

810
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm probably keeping him outside I think at tackle,

811
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that. I don't know how

812
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna look inside a guard. He's he's a tougher

813
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: one that I don't know that. Um, I don't think.

814
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: I haven't totally figured out yet. So Warren McClendon, just

815
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: so the listeners can get it straight, Warren McClendon out

816
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: of Georgia tackle, moving the guards, six foot four, two

817
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: ninety and then outside Chattanooga or McClendon Curtis, So they're both.

818
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: McClendon's one last name, one first name, and he's massive.

819
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: He is absolutely massive, all right. I had multiple people

820
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: ask me about Deuce Vaughan. The Deuce is loose, the

821
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: running back from Kansas State, electrifying athlete. Of course, he's

822
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: related to Chris Vaughn, who's in the scouting department here

823
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Based off of what you've seen, are

824
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: you impressed with what Deuce Vaughn could bring as like

825
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: a mid round prospect at running back and somebody who

826
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: could bring some electrifying aspects. You got that one, Dame,

827
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: because I've got down through. I've got down through. I'm

828
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: down through. Tank Bigsby is who I've got to. So

829
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: I got six of these runners done. As a mid

830
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: round guy, yeah, I think absolutely. I mean, you know,

831
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's someone like I didn't consider him

832
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: from my top one hundred. You know, I think he's

833
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: just at the size is tough at that position, and

834
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: it's not you know, he's He's one of these guys

835
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: that he's very built already, like he's already filled out

836
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: his frame. He's not someone that's going to add ten pounds.

837
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see exactly what he is weight

838
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: wise at the combine. But and you see it. There

839
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: are times where you know, as an inside runner, as

840
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: soon as he meets a little bit of resistance, I mean,

841
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: he's getting stalled out and so he doesn't necessarily have

842
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: a ton of that inside power. But you get him

843
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: out in space and you know, you look at what

844
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Boston Scott is for the Eagles. Uh, you know, I

845
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: think he can be that type of offensive playmaker where

846
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: you get the ball in his hands in space, he

847
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: will juke you out of your shoes. You know, he's

848
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: got a little bit of juice to him, so he

849
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: can make those pursuit angles be a little tough. So

850
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean duce Vaughan and the if I'm talking about

851
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: the right value, which for me is like when we

852
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: get to the fifth round. Yeah, yeah, I'd love to

853
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: adduce Vaughn to my my my roster. I just don't

854
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: think he's necessarily a guy we're talking about the top

855
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: one hundred pick. Yeah. I had him as a fifth

856
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: round date early grade, real quick and just you answers quick,

857
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: I hope how close is Robinson? Bijean Robinson Texas and

858
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: Jamar Gibbs from Alabama to you? Is that like one

859
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: for running backs? Yeah? They're the easy one too. For me,

860
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: I think that I have Bijean like six overall and

861
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs at like twenty one or something. Okay, So

862
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: but they're there, there's like a thing okay, spots okay,

863
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: but but skill skill wise, they're a little different too, okay, Okay, Yeah,

864
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: talent wise, I think they're they're both legit first round talents.

865
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think, uh, you know, Bijean gives

866
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: you a little more power obviously, he can break tackles

867
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: in more ways Jamir and they're both very good pass catchers.

868
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs is a little more sudden than Bijean, and

869
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: so you have a trade off. You know, you want

870
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: the guy that's more power and more of a workhorse.

871
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: You want a guy like Jamir Gibbs who is more sudden,

872
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: but he's also probably not going to have as many

873
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: carries in that body, as John Robinson gives you, what

874
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: did you like about Gibbs when you watched him? Me? Yeah,

875
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: it was clear when you watched like the Texas game,

876
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, when they were playing and there you know,

877
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: Texas did a good job up front. I felt like

878
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: handling what Alabama was trying to do. But Dane's right

879
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: when it came down to like the toughness aspect of

880
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: it and him having a you know, the vision, the

881
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: ability to slash. I mean, he kind of has got

882
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: to feel for how those blocks develop and then he's

883
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: to the hole, through the hole. He's got quick feed,

884
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: he's shifty, he's a burst, he's got an extra gear.

885
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: I felt like you can see him separate from defenders.

886
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: The start stop quickness, I think is the power. I mean,

887
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: he'll line up all over the place, and play for you.

888
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean you can use him as a receiver. He

889
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: catches the ball, he doesn't fight it, the soft hands,

890
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot. I mean, there's a lot to like

891
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: about this kid. I was just curious with Dane because

892
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: we all talk about Robinson. I think a really good

893
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: consolation prize if you don't get Robinson would be Gibbs.

894
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: I think his Gibbs is going to be a star.

895
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: I really really do. M this is here with you.

896
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: I think he is that type of talent and he's

897
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: again he's not that body type. He was listed right

898
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: around two hundred pounds, and so it'll be interesting at

899
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: the combine. Is he two o five, two o six?

900
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: What is he? Um? You know, I think if you

901
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: if you took all Alvin Kamara and Chris Johnson and

902
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: combined them, it would look something similar to Jamir Gibbs.

903
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: He is that and I'm talking. I know these two

904
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: running backs I'm talking about are legit, dude, So I

905
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: understand this is high praise, but I'm with it, Brian.

906
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: He is a potential star at the next level. It

907
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: just you have to understand. And you know, this goes

908
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: back and we talked about with Osiris torants understand what

909
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: type of player he is, so you use him the

910
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: right way. And in three years in college he only

911
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: had two touchdowns on goal to go situations. You're not

912
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: going to use him in some of those short yardish things,

913
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: or at least as an up the gut runner. You know,

914
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: you want him in space, you want him I think

915
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: once something that included in my report on him, and

916
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: this goes along with what you said, Bryan. He is

917
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman's best friend, absolutely, because he is so

918
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: good at pressing, understanding what is you know, the patience.

919
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: He's not gonna run up the block the back of

920
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: his blockers. He understands what the run design is. He

921
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: understands when to hit it and when it anticipates those openings,

922
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: and he has the start stop footwork to boom go

923
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: and he's through the hole as soon as it opens.

924
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with it. He's a star. We're watching

925
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: some highlights of him right now on the video side

926
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: of things, and there's twas true Sanders seeds to make

927
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: that play. They're going up against Arkansas and back to

928
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: back plays, or at least on the highlight reel, and

929
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: he's bursting through the hole. He's got the vision, he's

930
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: very patient, he's a lateral mover, and then boom, he

931
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: hits it. You know what's funny? Guys like when I

932
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: first started scouting in nineteen ninety two, like Robinson and

933
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: Gibbs would have been top five, top ten pias yea.

934
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: And now it's gonna be the conversation that's gonna tear

935
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: everybody up exactly exactly. You're gonna have half and half

936
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have somebody saying don't ever take a

937
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: running back in the first round. Then another half that's

938
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, they're going to be a star. All right,

939
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: real quickly, last question, let's try and blow through this

940
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: real fast. What are some dB names that could fit

941
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: the dan Quinn mold. We talked a little bit earlier

942
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: about banks from Maryland. Are there anybody else out there,

943
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: Dane that could maybe be in that conversation? Well, obviously,

944
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about length, we're talking about bigger guys,

945
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: and you know I Kile Ringo is he a guy

946
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: that do you think you know, maybe there'd be interest

947
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: there because Keilee Ringo is just a freak at six

948
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: two fifteen. You know the size that he brings. Um,

949
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, could he move to safety? And there's questions

950
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: there and then once you get into uh, you know,

951
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: day two and day three and some of those you know,

952
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: that's what we saw them do like two years ago

953
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: with some of those corners they drafted in the second

954
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: third round. Um, you know guy like Eli Rish, you

955
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: know Brian I know, yeah know Eli Ricks from his

956
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: LSU days. How good he was a freshman now yeah,

957
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: sophomore years, her junior year. He transfers Alabama and struggle

958
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: to get on the field. But this guy is a talent.

959
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: And when we talk about the discount sticker, he's got

960
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 1: that on him. In third, fourth round, Eli Rix, maybe

961
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: he's that reclamation project that Dan Quinn could be looking for.

962
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you're talking about. Day two, day

963
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: three kind of guys that Terik Stevens from Miami is

964
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: one that I mean you look at him, six one,

965
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and fourteen pounds. That's what I was working

966
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: off right there. I'll give you another one too, free

967
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: safety Antonio Johnson six three one five pounds, physically looks

968
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: every bit. I'll tell you what, I love this kid,

969
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: I really, really do love this kid. I mean, I'd

970
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: like this second round kind of guy for me because

971
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: I think there's there's some times where you talk about

972
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: the tackling and I feel like that, you know, I'd

973
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 1: like to see him wrap up a little bit better

974
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: on some of this stuff. But man, he is a

975
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: really good player in space. I love how he throws

976
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: his body around. He's you know, he's just not gonna

977
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: let anybody get buy him very easily. I think that

978
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: the play all over the formation there. They'll put him

979
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: in the slot, they they you know, wherever he has

980
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: to play, he's gonna play. And I think the length

981
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: about this kid really really helps it. Again, I mentioned

982
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: Stevenson from from from uh Miami, Yeah, Miami, he has

983
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: another guy. I think he might be a safety too.

984
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I mean, you could play him it.

985
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: He's got that ability to where he can I feel

986
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: like he can cover. I feel like that he you know,

987
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: he puts himself in position to make plays. The length

988
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: helps him to knock the ball, the way he work

989
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: around the receivers instead of through him. There's a there's

990
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: some guys that in this secondary, whether whether it's corners

991
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: or safeties. I think you're gonna make really good players

992
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: for for somebody whoever drafts him. Antonio Johnson out of

993
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: A and m and then Stevenson out of Miami. For

994
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: both of both of those guys, Stevenson currently listed as

995
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: a corner has that position flex and then Antonio Johnson

996
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: listed as US safety. All right, let's take our second break.

997
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: When we come back. Dane released his top one hundred

998
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,120
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999
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: as write this second, as you should, but we're gonna

1000
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,040
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1001
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1039
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1040
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,359
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1041
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,800
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1042
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Speaker 1: Dane released his Top one hundred this week, his most

1043
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Speaker 1: recent edition of the Top one hundred. Dane one, fantastic

1044
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: work as always. Two. I want to know who was

1045
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: the biggest change, who had the most movement back and

1046
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,440
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1047
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: into this one. Well, and this is my first one

1048
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: hundred Top one hundred I've done. I did um you

1049
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: know a top fifty right back in December. And now

1050
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: now that we got past the All Star season, Okay,

1051
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: now time to reset the board. Get a top one

1052
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: hundred out there, and um a couple couple of juniors,

1053
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: because you know, I work so much on the seniors.

1054
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: And then right around this time is when I really

1055
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: dive into the underclassman. Uh Klijah Cancy, the undersized defensive

1056
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: tackle from Pitt Well. And that's you know, I'm not

1057
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: not gonna lie I. I have a small bias, you know,

1058
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: with smaller players. It's just something that you can't I'm human,

1059
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, you can't get that out of your mind.

1060
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: There's smaller players that worries you. But the more and

1061
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: then so basically you go into watching tape and you

1062
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: make them overcome it with your eyes. And Kalijah Cancy

1063
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: was able to do that. Where you don't love the

1064
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: size on paper, you don't over you don't overcome the

1065
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, or you worry about that lack of size

1066
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: the next level. But then the more you watch, the

1067
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: more you keep coming to the conclusion that, Okay, this

1068
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: guy's just he's defeating blocks at will because he's so

1069
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: explosive of his hands are so quick and violent. He

1070
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: is you know, talk about quick wins up and down

1071
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: his tape. He's able to do that. And I just

1072
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't think the lack of size was that much of

1073
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: a deterrent on film that would stop me from drafting

1074
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: him somewhere in the top forty picks. So, Kalaija Kancy

1075
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: is really really interesting and you know he's one of

1076
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: the top defensive tackles this year. You liked him a lot.

1077
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: I brought him up, Yeah, I do. I brought him

1078
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: up as a player. When last week when I was

1079
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: on with you guys, I mean this school does have

1080
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: a history. It does. I mean you can't. But Dane's right.

1081
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is six foot, he's two hundred

1082
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: and seventy five pounds. You should everything about him. You

1083
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: should kill him on his lack of height. You should,

1084
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: and you can't because he's disruptive. This guy immediate attacks gaps,

1085
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: he works the edges, he'll chase. I mean, he's he

1086
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: makes his share of place. He's lateral quickness, redirect everything

1087
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: you want, push the pocket with power, the quickness, the

1088
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: moves and all that. He can win right off the jump.

1089
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: There's yeah, oh go ahead. You know, back in the

1090
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: day the old crusty's like me and the you know

1091
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: when we first started, you know, six foot two, seventy five,

1092
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have drafted this kid, but you can't. You

1093
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: gotta give him his due when you watch his tape.

1094
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: Really like what we've seen from him as well. Now, Dane,

1095
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: really quickly before we let you go and we get

1096
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: off of here, what is with all the tight ends.

1097
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: There's a lot of tight ends up in the top

1098
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: forty of your your top one hundred. Is this one

1099
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: of the better classes we've seen at that position recently.

1100
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Um and and it's it's

1101
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: top heavy, and then it stretches. You know, if you

1102
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: get Sam Laporta in the third round, Yeah, you're feeling

1103
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: really good about that tight end from Iowa. But talking

1104
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: about that top five tight ends in my top fifty, four,

1105
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: in my top thirty, and it just it'll depend on

1106
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: what you want. You know, Michael Mayer is different than

1107
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington, who's different than Dalton Kincave, who is different

1108
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: than Luke Musgrave. If you're looking for the true in

1109
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: line guy who can work over the middle of the

1110
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: field and be a productive player for you there, Well,

1111
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: the mayor is your guy from Notre Dame. But if

1112
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: you're looking for the high upside of Darnell Washington, who

1113
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: can be a sixth offensive lineman and has upside as

1114
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: a pass catcher, well then you're going to go that route.

1115
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: If you want maybe the best pure pass catcher at

1116
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: the group, Dalton Kincaid, and I think Luke Musgrave is

1117
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 1: maybe the best combination of those. So it really depends

1118
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: on your offense and what you're looking for, and that's

1119
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: a team by team those four players, you will have

1120
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: a different order based off what that offense does, how

1121
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: they operate, and what type of specific role they're looking for.

1122
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: Where don't you have schooner maker? Is it schoon maker?

1123
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: Is that how you say the name? Schoonmaker? Michigan, Michigan

1124
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: number one hundred. He was a guy I'm telling to

1125
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: make sure he was in there. Yeah, and you're not wrong.

1126
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, by the way, you know, when you

1127
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: look at this I thought he was for two hundred

1128
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: and forty eight pounds. That's kind of what the number

1129
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him right now, six five two. I

1130
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: thought this guy was a good blocker. I really really

1131
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: do I think that he catches the ball well. But

1132
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: the one thing about him is the way that he's

1133
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: able to play on his feet. I love the fact

1134
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: the way that he's not getting thrown around. They use him,

1135
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: They run behind him, they use him as a point

1136
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: of attack blocker. He does it in a lot of

1137
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: different ways, movement motion. He's an athlete. As a route runner,

1138
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: he can get up the field. He doesn't label labor

1139
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: at all. He's smooth. I like him kind of as

1140
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: a guy that can do a lot of different things

1141
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: for you. They run the ball behind him, you know,

1142
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: a lot of times he's kind of athlete. Guys they

1143
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: go opposite, go away from him. Not this kid at all.

1144
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: Him and the him and the Alabama kid. Latta, yeah,

1145
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: latt I. You know you need to check why he

1146
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: wears that big old knee brace on the left knee.

1147
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you there's another one of those guys

1148
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: I kind of liked. If you're looking from those down

1149
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: the line guys, you like both those he did at

1150
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Yeah, you know, yeah, Kim lat To.

1151
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: When Brashon was in trouble, he looked for Jamir Gibbs.

1152
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: If Jamir Gibbs wasn't out there. He was looking for

1153
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: cam Law too. I mean that's how you know that

1154
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: offense worked at Tuscaloosa. But yeah, I mean you could.

1155
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to stop there. I mean Tucker Craft

1156
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: from South Dakota's no questions being slept on. I mean

1157
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: he is to me, and he came in right at

1158
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: number fifty. You know he's a mid second round guy.

1159
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Davis Allen from Clemson, there's a lot like about him.

1160
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: Breton Strange from Penn State, Braden Willis from Oklahoma is

1161
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: a good player. So yeah, this tight end class, it's

1162
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to pass on one of those

1163
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: four guys we talked about in that late first round,

1164
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: but if you do, there will be several other guys

1165
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: that you like in the second, third, fourth round. Lots

1166
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: of tight ends to keep an eye on, lots of

1167
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: prospects to keep an eye on. And if you want

1168
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on all those guys, tune into

1169
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: the Athletic with Dame Brugler and company. He does great

1170
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: work over there. And this won't be the last time

1171
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: we'll see Dane on the Draft show this year, but

1172
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: we appreciate him filling in for Ayisha and Bobby who

1173
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: will hopefully be back tomorrow, but for Brian brought us

1174
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: Dame Burglar, Chris Beam in the back, Um Kyle Yeoman

1175
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: saying so long from the draft show. We'll see tomorrow

1176
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: eleven am Central Time here from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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