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Speaker 1: you tonight. The war in Ukraine is about to go nuclear,
Speaker 1: the new iPhone can tell you when you've died. And
Speaker 1: Barack Obama is back in the White House. So let's
Speaker 1: do these people. That jumps straight into today's headlines. All right,
Speaker 1: Before we get into the big stories, let's catch up
Speaker 1: on a few other things going on in the world.
Speaker 1: First up, the East cigarette company Jewel has agreed to
Speaker 1: pay a settlement of nearly half a billion dollars for
Speaker 1: marketing their product to teenagers. And obviously this is really
Speaker 1: bad for the company. Yeah, million dollars. The whole business
Speaker 1: has just gone up in strawberry flavored smoke. This is
Speaker 1: great and useful teenagers because now they have half a
Speaker 1: billion dollars which they can spend on more jewels. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: in education, used New York City has announced that students
Speaker 1: will no longer get snow days and will instead attend
Speaker 1: classes on zoom. Yes, this is a thing. No snow
Speaker 1: days only zoom. Yeah. I mean, luckily this isn't too
Speaker 1: big of a deal. I know it's sad, but you realize,
Speaker 1: thanks to climate change in New York's getting snow for
Speaker 1: what two years max? Now, Yeah, this is basically gonna
Speaker 1: be Florida with better bagels. That's all it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: But I do feel bad for these kids, you know,
Speaker 1: missing out on such a big parts of childhood. I
Speaker 1: mean like when I was growing up, there was nothing
Speaker 1: I love more than waking up and checking the TV
Speaker 1: for school closings. And then you know, and I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: and then I remember that I grew up in Africa.
Speaker 1: You idiots. It doesn't snow there. And I give a
Speaker 1: shirt about you losing snow days. Hell out they hear,
Speaker 1: you dumb kids. Oh. In sports news, the US Soccer
Speaker 1: Federation has announced that the women's national team will now
Speaker 1: get paid the same amount of money as the man.
Speaker 1: That is right, Gmail soccer players have finally achieved their goal.
Speaker 1: But you see, ladies, all you have to do is
Speaker 1: be literally the best in the world. It's something and
Speaker 1: someday you too will get paid the same amounts as
Speaker 1: men who are mediocre at the same job. It is inspiring,
Speaker 1: is what it is. It is inspired, all right. But
Speaker 1: let's move on to some of the biggest stories of
Speaker 1: the day, starting with the war in Ukraine. And yes,
Speaker 1: it is still going on, even though you put that
Speaker 1: flag in your profile photo. I know, I thought it
Speaker 1: would work too. As the war drags on, the fallout
Speaker 1: is being felt around the world. Europe is facing skyrocketing
Speaker 1: energy prices, Africa is still suffering from grain shortages, and
Speaker 1: America has been forced to part with some of its
Speaker 1: most beloved missiles. But now everyone is worried that the
Speaker 1: next fallout from the war could be nuclear. This morning,
Speaker 1: there are fears the Zapparisian nuclear plant in southern Ukraine
Speaker 1: is accelerating towards a potential disaster. A report just released
Speaker 1: by a team of u N watchdog inspectors found seven
Speaker 1: pillars of nuclear safety have been significantly compromised. Inspectors who
Speaker 1: visited the plants say it's security is being undermined by
Speaker 1: constant shelling and the Russian military equipment on the site.
Speaker 1: New images of damage caused by shelling at that nuclear
Speaker 1: power plant near Zapparigia overnight the u n's nuclear watchdog
Speaker 1: urging Russia and Ukraine to immediately cease all military operations
Speaker 1: in that area and establish a nuclear safety and security
Speaker 1: protection zone around the plant. We're playing with fire and
Speaker 1: something very, very catastrophic could take place. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that guy, but I think this is a
Speaker 1: lot worse than playing with fire. Okay, there's a nuclear apocalypse.
Speaker 1: I wish we were playing with fire. He's like, we're
Speaker 1: playing with fires. Need to like up as analogy game.
Speaker 1: What's on about the end of human life? And he's like,
Speaker 1: we're cruising for a bruising here. But yeah, the u
Speaker 1: N is urging Ukraine and Russia to stop fighting around
Speaker 1: Europe's largest nuclear power plants. And at this point, like,
Speaker 1: what is the UN even for? Huh? Because even I
Speaker 1: can urge Ukraine and Russia to not fights around a
Speaker 1: nuclear power plant, the UN should be able to make
Speaker 1: them stop. But what is the UN dude, please stop?
Speaker 1: You didn't you know? The UN is? The UN is
Speaker 1: basically turned into those parents who have no control over
Speaker 1: their kids, just like Aiden, Aiden, don't kick your brother, okay, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: don't kick him near the coffee table, all right, kick
Speaker 1: him over there. And also this is yet another sign
Speaker 1: that Vladimir Putin has lost it, because if a nuclear
Speaker 1: power plant blows up in Ukraine that's next door to Russia,
Speaker 1: you also screwed. I mean, unless this is what Putin wants.
Speaker 1: Maybe he wants a nuclear disaster so that he can
Speaker 1: roll around in a radioactive cloud and turn himself into
Speaker 1: a like a mutant. You know, I'll just be like
Speaker 1: hear of new superpower. I am first Russian with the
Speaker 1: ability to smile. Let's move on from the technology that
Speaker 1: could kill us, also the technology that helps us waste
Speaker 1: time on the toilet, the iPhone. Every year, Apple holds
Speaker 1: a big conference where they reveal the products that we're
Speaker 1: all going to buy to try and fill the emptiness
Speaker 1: in our lives. And there's a lot of suspense for
Speaker 1: these events because nobody knows in advance what they're gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: it could just be that the camera is a little
Speaker 1: better than the last time, or they could announced that
Speaker 1: the new iPhone can read your thoughts. But today's conference
Speaker 1: was somewhere in between. It's the day techies have been
Speaker 1: waiting for. Apple is announcing its new products. Right at
Speaker 1: the top is the latest iPhone, the new iPhone fourteen
Speaker 1: and fourteen plus. Both have larger screens and both are
Speaker 1: promising longer battery life. Throughout the day, also announced the
Speaker 1: Apple Watch Series eight. They come in seven colors. The
Speaker 1: new Watch can track a whole bunch of stuff, including fertility.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing happening on the new series A is
Speaker 1: a temperature sensor that they used for opulation and tracking
Speaker 1: menstrual cycles, and also crash detection. So if you get
Speaker 1: into a car crash, it can actually detect that and
Speaker 1: automatically call emergency services and send them to your location. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, people, The new iPhone and Apple Watch can
Speaker 1: automatically detect when you're in a car crash. Because you
Speaker 1: know how sometimes you're a car crash, but you're like,
Speaker 1: am I in a car crash? And the phone is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in a car crash. I also love how the
Speaker 1: phone is fine. In that accident, the cars cart and
Speaker 1: the phone is like, I'll call the cops. Wai yo. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. What it actually does is if you incapacitated
Speaker 1: in the car crash, the device will contact emergency services
Speaker 1: on your behalf, which is a pretty cool feature. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if it detects that you're in a fatal accident,
Speaker 1: it will automatically delete all your pawn in the cloud.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim Cook, thank you, thank you so much. Now, look, look,
Speaker 1: I'm all for safety. I'm all for safety, you know.
Speaker 1: I just I just hope that if I do get
Speaker 1: into an accident, you know, that me and Syria on
Speaker 1: the same page. Otherwise I could get a little awkward. Hello,
Speaker 1: this is Sivor was in a car crash. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. ZERI he was distracted because he was looking
Speaker 1: at his phone while driving. What No, don't snitch Instagram. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. I wasn't, actually, SERI I wasn't. He's
Speaker 1: pretending to move on, you know what. Actually, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna die. Nine one one, hang up, I'm just gonna die.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna die. I'm fine, I'm don't live fine, Now.
Speaker 1: The other big feature that Apple announced is that the
Speaker 1: watch can now track a woman's menstrual cycle, fertility, and ovulation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if you're trying to conceive, it can tell you
Speaker 1: what time it is. Yeah, imagine that everything, your cycle,
Speaker 1: your fertility, and your ovulation. A lot of people are
Speaker 1: excited about this, and a lot of Republicans heard this
Speaker 1: and they were like, Parry, that's our job, retract the ladies.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Apple? My But enough about Apple,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Barack Obama. You guys remember him? Remember him?
Speaker 1: Was It was a black guy, good speeches, never stole
Speaker 1: nuclear secrets from the government. It's been more than five
Speaker 1: years since Obama left office, but earlier today he showed
Speaker 1: up at the White House again to retake power. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm just kidding. He was meant to unveil
Speaker 1: the painting former President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama.
Speaker 1: We're back at the White House, restoring a tradition, unveiling
Speaker 1: their official White House portraits. Commision, yell, it's my honor
Speaker 1: invite you both to the stage for the unveiling of
Speaker 1: your official portraits. Come on and then you go. I
Speaker 1: want to thank Sharon Sprung for capturing everything I love
Speaker 1: about Michelle, her grace, her intelligence, and the fact that
Speaker 1: she's fine. Cheers all, get a room, mute doo oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know. Seriously, get a room at the White
Speaker 1: House and help Biden figuate shut out. Please just get
Speaker 1: a room. There is so great. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I I am not an art experts. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know the difference between Michaelangelo and the other Ninja turtles.
Speaker 1: But is going on with the Obama portraits? Like? Why
Speaker 1: why is he standing in a white void? I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like what I don't I don't get It looks like
Speaker 1: he got his portrait taken at the d m V.
Speaker 1: Why does it look like this? It's just like my
Speaker 1: license expired. So let's kill two birds with one stone.
Speaker 1: What is he doing here? No, because these portraits are
Speaker 1: gonna hang in the White House forever. You understand that
Speaker 1: they should look white house like. Look at Michelves. She
Speaker 1: looks like a movie star painted by a flinch out easts.
Speaker 1: Obama's looked like they ran out of printed toner for
Speaker 1: the background. There's there's nothing in the you know, if
Speaker 1: you ask me, it's It's actually kind of ridiculous that
Speaker 1: they even do portraits anymore. Just take a picture, right,
Speaker 1: The only reason they did portraits back then they didn't
Speaker 1: have technology. Just take a picture of portrait takes so
Speaker 1: much time. You're gonna sit there for three hours while
Speaker 1: they're painting you, and then when they finally done, they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: now a silly one. Also, it must be it must
Speaker 1: be really weird to live in a house with portraits
Speaker 1: of your enemies. Do you ever think about that? Because
Speaker 1: they hang these in the White House, but you're not
Speaker 1: in the White House anymore. The first things in the
Speaker 1: White House probably doesn't roll with you, So you just
Speaker 1: got enemies in your heart. Like imagine if we had
Speaker 1: to do that. Imagine if every one of us were
Speaker 1: like showing people around your house like this is my
Speaker 1: actually cheated on me, and this says the guy who
Speaker 1: beat me up in fifth grade, Brad. He was pretty strong,
Speaker 1: pretty strong guy. That's what presidents have to do. Obama
Speaker 1: had to walk down halways looking at George W. Bush's picture.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump had to sit on the toilet with a
Speaker 1: portrait of Bill Clinton looking down on him. You know,
Speaker 1: just like look away, I can't go and I'm being watched.
Speaker 1: I can't go it. Why did I put the picture
Speaker 1: in the bedroom? You know, it would actually be cool.
Speaker 1: It would be cool if these portraits were alive like
Speaker 1: in Harry Potter. Yeah, wouldn't that be amazing? Because then
Speaker 1: if Trump did go back to the White House, Obama's
Speaker 1: portrait would be there helping him out. Donald, be careful
Speaker 1: with those documents there are there are classified. Don't don't eat,
Speaker 1: don't eat while you read them. Donald, You're you're getting
Speaker 1: catch up all over them? What's wrong with you? Quick? Quick?
Speaker 1: The Saudi ambassadors coming hid the documents? No, no, don't
Speaker 1: don't sell the documents of the sudey ambassador. Come on, Donald, Donald,
Speaker 1: what what are you doing? God? This bitch is dumb.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe it. All right, that's
Speaker 1: a good headlines. Fuck. Before we go to a quick break,
Speaker 1: that's checking on the stock market without very on finance
Speaker 1: expert Michael Costs. Everybody good to see your mout. So
Speaker 1: what's going on? What's happening in the market today? I
Speaker 1: am crushing it. I mean I am, I'm crushing it
Speaker 1: so hard. My Apple watch and a notification asking if
Speaker 1: I was in a car crash. Okay, now I was,
Speaker 1: but I fled, so it's fine. Okay, So oh I
Speaker 1: got an h T for you. I got a h
Speaker 1: T for you as well. So all right, So that's
Speaker 1: HT short for hot Tip. I like saying HT because
Speaker 1: it saves me time, but then I kind of have
Speaker 1: to explain that it's hot tip. May even cost me
Speaker 1: more time, you know, I may just start going like this,
Speaker 1: te te which one do you prefer? Trevor, Um. I
Speaker 1: just want to know what's happening in the market, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: Look this is the Apple stock chart since the inception
Speaker 1: of the company. And why this is important to actually
Speaker 1: actually before we do this that that story about Jewel,
Speaker 1: the e cigarette company. Yeah, they took a hit with
Speaker 1: that half a billion dollars settlement. Look, you can't market
Speaker 1: two teens all right now. My question though, is how
Speaker 1: does the Teen Choice Awards get away with it? All right?
Speaker 1: Clearly marketing two teens? Okay, this is why I'm the expert.
Speaker 1: You get it. And speaking of Jewel, Okay, if you're
Speaker 1: trying to quit, do what I do. Suck on a
Speaker 1: USB stick Okay, it's no nicotine. I find them all
Speaker 1: over the office. Okay, let me, let me get to
Speaker 1: the stock chart. Okay, now this is that. Now they
Speaker 1: launched these new products, including the Apple, the iPhone fourteen.
Speaker 1: But you know, hold on one more thing. That the
Speaker 1: story about the snow days, kids losing the snow days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know everyone's worried about kids missing school, but it's
Speaker 1: okay to have a few days off. Look, I'm from Michigan.
Speaker 1: In the winter, we had so many snow days I
Speaker 1: barely went to school. And look how good I've done
Speaker 1: now learned right? See alright, app Apple Apple. These guys
Speaker 1: are crushing it. But for a really long time they
Speaker 1: weren't making any money because they were just selling fruit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and they're selling it
Speaker 1: for like two bucks. And then Steve Jobs comes around.
Speaker 1: He says, why don't we sell the iPhone for like
Speaker 1: a thousand bucks? Bang? They start making money, right, Steve Jobs?
Speaker 1: Is that a incidents that he's named after? The way
Speaker 1: we all make money? Exactly? All right? So now now
Speaker 1: let me give you my HT all right, that's hot tip.
Speaker 1: I call it HD because it saves me time. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So so what you name your kid will determine their
Speaker 1: success in life, which is why my son's name is
Speaker 1: Powerball Costas. So that's my hotel, Michael Costa. Everybody already
Speaker 1: great investing advice. Thank you so much. Don't go away
Speaker 1: because after the break, Dansey Ldek is gonna school us
Speaker 1: on fashion. I don't want to. That's why you want
Speaker 1: to helpful. Welcome back to the data show. Today is
Speaker 1: the beginning of New York Fashion Week. Although based on
Speaker 1: what you're wearing, I guess you didn't know about it.
Speaker 1: Oh but how did Neal Fashion Week begin? Well, Daisy
Speaker 1: Ltek has the answer. It's New York Fashion Week, the
Speaker 1: semi annual event when designers show their collections to the
Speaker 1: world so fast fashion brands can decide which styles to
Speaker 1: rip off. But unlike wet subway seats, fashion Week hasn't
Speaker 1: always been in New York institution. It's had a long
Speaker 1: walk down the runway to get where it is today.
Speaker 1: It all started in France and the sixte hundreds, which
Speaker 1: might not surprise you, but back then Paris was very
Speaker 1: much not known for fashion. The French were about as
Speaker 1: stylish as a croc wearing a Fannie pack. At that time,
Speaker 1: Madrid was actually the fashion capital of the world, and
Speaker 1: thanks to their tiny tapas, they could actually fit into
Speaker 1: all the sample sizes. But everything changed for France when
Speaker 1: Louis was um, you know, King of Fied. Louis turned
Speaker 1: France into a major power, and he wanted the threats
Speaker 1: to show it. For him, fashion was essential to the
Speaker 1: monarchies prestige. I mean, no one wants to be executed
Speaker 1: by a guy wearing cargo shorts. Louie's obsession built up
Speaker 1: France's fashion and textile industry and soon turned Paris into
Speaker 1: the world center of fashion, which by default made it
Speaker 1: the world center of cocaine and bitchy gossip as well.
Speaker 1: It was under Louis that France established the idea of
Speaker 1: showing fall designs in the spring and spring designs in
Speaker 1: the fall. So you can thank him for that trendy
Speaker 1: coat you're wearing in August. Who knew Voper was so hot.
Speaker 1: France continued to dominate the fashion industry for centuries until
Speaker 1: World War Two, when Paris was under German occupation. This
Speaker 1: grinded their fashion influence to a halt because a no
Speaker 1: one could come to Paris to shop and be coco
Speaker 1: channel was too busy banging Nazis to make any clothes.
Speaker 1: I know, terrible right, But no matter how many times
Speaker 1: I remind them of this, the boutique still won't give
Speaker 1: me a discount on a classic flat bag. But Paris's
Speaker 1: defeat turned out to be a win for the American
Speaker 1: fashion industry. The US seized on the opportunity to fill
Speaker 1: that gap quicker than a forever twenty one dress falls
Speaker 1: apart the laundry. In ninety three, America held the first
Speaker 1: fashion Week, or as it was no then press Week,
Speaker 1: started by a publicist Eleanor Lambert. It launched the careers
Speaker 1: of designers like Hattie Carnegie, Norman Morrell, and Claire mccartell,
Speaker 1: whose claim to fame was inventing sportswear. And by sportswear,
Speaker 1: I mean any casual clothing, not the athleisure that you
Speaker 1: wear even though your main exercise is getting a caramel
Speaker 1: frap in the Starbucks drive through three four oh who
Speaker 1: state bit is tough. Before Press Week, magazines like Vogue
Speaker 1: and Harper's Bazaar were really all about European designers. They
Speaker 1: treated American designers the way they treated the Kardashians. In
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, they ignore of them, but once press
Speaker 1: week started, they treated American fashion like well, the Kardashians. Now,
Speaker 1: she said she'd eat poop to look good? Should I
Speaker 1: eat poop? New York Fashion Week became such an institution
Speaker 1: that fashion capitals like Paris, London and Milan soon added
Speaker 1: their own versions, and they continue pushing the fashion envelope
Speaker 1: to this day. You could only get away with severed
Speaker 1: heads and Milan. If that was on a New York runway,
Speaker 1: everyone would just assume it was another murder. As time passed,
Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week became home of so many seminal moments,
Speaker 1: like in the fifties when James Scolano's popularized feminine glamour,
Speaker 1: or Adolpho, who gained fame in the sixties for his
Speaker 1: emphasis on accessories. And in the seventies, Normacamali introduced the
Speaker 1: sleeping bag coat. Although if you just wear your kids
Speaker 1: sleeping bag it looks almost it's good. As styles changed,
Speaker 1: so did fashion week itself. In the seventies and eighties,
Speaker 1: it turned into a NonStop party. Shows were held at
Speaker 1: nightclubs and celebrities started attending. By the early two thousands,
Speaker 1: celebs had become a permanent mainstay Sarah Jessica Parker, Paris Hilton.
Speaker 1: Everyone was there and that Hollywood glamour is still present
Speaker 1: to this day. But what was Larry David doing in
Speaker 1: the front row? He looked so miserable to be there.
Speaker 1: He should have been on the catwalk. Through the years,
Speaker 1: fashion Week has had different homes in the city, from
Speaker 1: Bryant Park to Lincoln Center, but the most important place
Speaker 1: has moved to in recent years is the same place
Speaker 1: you get all your porn the internet. Shows started live streaming,
Speaker 1: and designers began inviting bloggers and influencers to events. This
Speaker 1: all democratized fashion and made it more accessible to the public,
Speaker 1: or at least that's what I tell my therapist when
Speaker 1: we're working through my online shopping addiction time broke. New
Speaker 1: York Fashion Week hasn't just reflected the changing technology, It's
Speaker 1: also held a mirror up to society. From designers responding
Speaker 1: to the Me Too movement to the ongoing fight for
Speaker 1: more racial diversity on the runway, New York has been
Speaker 1: the site of progress for trans models, disabled models, embody positivity,
Speaker 1: which is kind of the least the fashion industry could
Speaker 1: do after telling women not to eat for the last
Speaker 1: hundred years. So now you know everything about New York
Speaker 1: Fashion Week and how it came to be and how
Speaker 1: it's changing for the better. Now, if you'll excuse me,
Speaker 1: I have some poop to eat. Here we go. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much about tune because when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined by the editor in chief of
Speaker 1: British Vogue, Edward Enfold. So don't go away. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the dat. My guest to my is the editor
Speaker 1: in chief of British Vogue and European editorial director for Vogue.
Speaker 1: He's written a memoir about his remarkable life called A
Speaker 1: Visible Man. Please welcome Edward ennen Full, Mr Edward Trevor. Trevor,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Daily Show. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: It's really good to have you here because for so
Speaker 1: many years I would see you at you know, some
Speaker 1: of the coolest events. You always like the face of fashion.
Speaker 1: It's always very intimidating to to speach to you. By
Speaker 1: the way, you never seen intimidating, I really am every
Speaker 1: time because you are one of I would say, like
Speaker 1: the most prominent voices in the fashion world. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Like whenever I dress up, I know I've probably done
Speaker 1: something wrong, but who's going to say anything to me?
Speaker 1: And then I see you and I'm like, ah, there's Edward.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's so good. They're very styler. Let's let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about the book. Let's talk about this this life.
Speaker 1: Some people know your face, you know from British Vogue.
Speaker 1: They'll know you for you know, creating some of the
Speaker 1: most iconic covers Beyonce for instance, on the cover of Vogue. Um,
Speaker 1: people have seen you at fashion shows, fashion week, people,
Speaker 1: people have seen you are everywhere. But a lot of
Speaker 1: people may not know the story behind the man and
Speaker 1: I love I love this book talks about it. So
Speaker 1: let's start with what you do, because I feel like
Speaker 1: you do everything. Just break break it down a little
Speaker 1: bit for me, like what is what is Edward into now?
Speaker 1: So basically what I do is I'm the editor for
Speaker 1: British Folk, which means you're really responsible for all the images,
Speaker 1: all the words in the magazine and perception. Then I'm
Speaker 1: also editorial director for all the Volks Europe so Italian, French, Germany, Spain,
Speaker 1: and that involves a lot of phone calls every day. Sleep,
Speaker 1: so I don't really sleep that's what I That's what
Speaker 1: I do the lot sleep and you shape what people think.
Speaker 1: I love that you you you highlight that part. Oftentimes
Speaker 1: I'll talk to people about fashion. You know, in the industry,
Speaker 1: people go like, who cares? I don't care about fashion?
Speaker 1: You don't care about fashion? And yet it's yeah, it
Speaker 1: isn't the brain surgery, and yet it affects everyone in
Speaker 1: every which way. You took a role that no black
Speaker 1: person had ever had. You took a role that no
Speaker 1: gay person had ever had. You You You've been the
Speaker 1: first in so many positions, and it feels like you've
Speaker 1: had to live a life of now making sure that
Speaker 1: everybody is seen. I'd love to know how you even
Speaker 1: think about this on a daily basis. How do you
Speaker 1: think about who's on the cover of magazine, who's in
Speaker 1: a magazine, which designers are in the magazine, and what
Speaker 1: fashion even should be. I mean, you know, we think
Speaker 1: of the zeit guys, who's representing the world today, who's
Speaker 1: everyone talking about. We also have to think who's got
Speaker 1: to shock the world a bit because he can't always
Speaker 1: be safe? Right? And for me, when I approach the issue,
Speaker 1: I approach it in terms of you know, just diversity.
Speaker 1: We live in the world that's so diverse. You know,
Speaker 1: I love all kinds of women. I love big women
Speaker 1: are like small women, black women, older women. And for me,
Speaker 1: women need to see themselves represented in the magazine every month.
Speaker 1: Did you I wonder where the sense of yours came from?
Speaker 1: You know, when I read through the story we we
Speaker 1: we go through the life of a young Ghanaian boy
Speaker 1: and his family, you know, moving from Ghana to the
Speaker 1: United Kingdom, having nothing really and yeah, having nothing and
Speaker 1: just and just working your way up. And your mom
Speaker 1: has this influence you know, on you, in in what
Speaker 1: she designed and how she was renowned as a designer.
Speaker 1: I would love to know how much she shaped how
Speaker 1: you see fashion and its role in the world today.
Speaker 1: I mean, my mother literally shaped how I see it,
Speaker 1: not just fashion, about the world. I grew up in
Speaker 1: her hotelier. And you know, when you're African, with my grandmother's,
Speaker 1: my aunt's, my cousins, big women, you know, tall women,
Speaker 1: loud women, and I'd always be in the corner soaking
Speaker 1: up women. I love women, and they wouldn't know I
Speaker 1: was in the corner, and eventually somebody would be like
Speaker 1: Ederic got get me water. So I grew up with
Speaker 1: my mother just learning about design and colors and what
Speaker 1: women liked, what made them tea And when you when
Speaker 1: you moved to the United Kingdom, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the UK has changed so much over the years. And
Speaker 1: and in the book We We we followed that journey,
Speaker 1: you know, we we see a world where you didn't
Speaker 1: fit in in so many ways. You didn't fit in
Speaker 1: as a gay man, right, you didn't fit in as
Speaker 1: a black person in many spaces. You didn't fit in
Speaker 1: in this fashion world that had an idea of what
Speaker 1: beauty even stood for. And and you see these pictures
Speaker 1: of you at the very beginning, with like Naomi Campbell
Speaker 1: and Kate Marson and your beginnings. Why e would you
Speaker 1: go into an industry where everyone told you didn't belong?
Speaker 1: What made you stay there? Well? I didn't have a choice.
Speaker 1: I was sort of discovered on the train. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, on my way to being a lawyer, a doctor,
Speaker 1: you know, African African professor of course, and I was
Speaker 1: discovered on the train to be a model and a
Speaker 1: model and then this whole world opened up for me.
Speaker 1: But little did I know that I was going to
Speaker 1: be the token or the chosen one. And when people
Speaker 1: are in that world, normally they're like, I'm good, I'm
Speaker 1: on my own. I'm like, But for me, it wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: I had to bring people up with me. I had
Speaker 1: to bring my friends. Part mcgrad worparent nailed me because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the only one in that space.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you bought people, You
Speaker 1: incorporated the people you know you you you created a
Speaker 1: community and a culture that that that has shaped the
Speaker 1: way we see the world today. But but it wasn't
Speaker 1: It wasn't easy. It didn't you know. I remember there
Speaker 1: was a there's a tweet of yours. They went viral
Speaker 1: and made the news around the world. You talk about
Speaker 1: it in the book where you were in a pretty
Speaker 1: senior position at Vogue. You know, the editor there you are,
Speaker 1: and you have many of your contemporaries who also edits
Speaker 1: a different fashion magazines. Yeah, you're a fashion director at
Speaker 1: that time, actually, And you have the fashion show and
Speaker 1: they seat everybody else in the front row, the first directors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they put you in the second row, and you
Speaker 1: noticed there was there was one thing that that was
Speaker 1: different between you and them. I mean, I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't miss my skin to but I would. I would
Speaker 1: love to know why you tweeted about it so many
Speaker 1: so many other people would just keep quiet and be hurt,
Speaker 1: wouldn't say anything, wouldn't want ruffle any feathers. You tweeted
Speaker 1: it out, and you you you know it was it
Speaker 1: was really it was really cheeky and fun. I love
Speaker 1: that you said why is it that we all have
Speaker 1: the same job? And I'm paraphrasing, but I'm the only
Speaker 1: one in the second row, and then your racism question
Speaker 1: mark XO X look for me. I just figured that,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're the one, it's your responsibility when
Speaker 1: those things happened to just tweet about it. Let the
Speaker 1: world know that it's not right, it's it's it's not good,
Speaker 1: it's it can't happen, it can't keep happening. So by
Speaker 1: doing that, that would never happened to me. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show you that what a flip And then follow
Speaker 1: up that's um, let's talk about fashion as a whole.
Speaker 1: Fashion has for so long gone through UM. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's changed, but it's often been resistant to change.
Speaker 1: You know, I remember when I was growing up. People
Speaker 1: would complain about models who are anorextic and how they
Speaker 1: were told that they needed to look a certain way
Speaker 1: in order for them to be accepted. And then the
Speaker 1: fashion industry is like, okay, well we'll we'll, we'll change,
Speaker 1: will change, you know, And then over time people said, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you more inclusive of all women's bodies? And
Speaker 1: in fashionator is that okay, we'll will will change, will change.
Speaker 1: Now one of the bigger conversations people are having is
Speaker 1: about sustainability. You know, fashion comes out with new clothing
Speaker 1: every single season. They tell you what you're wearing is
Speaker 1: old and it's trash. You need new stuff. But then
Speaker 1: the old stuff gets thrown away, it's filling up landfills,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Are you seeing a push and and and
Speaker 1: why do you think it's important for fashion to be
Speaker 1: at the forefront of sustainable or sustainably creating Why we
Speaker 1: wear what we wear? What I love about the industry
Speaker 1: right now is the biggest conversations about sustainability. I've always
Speaker 1: preached by better by less by things you can pass
Speaker 1: on to people, your kids, your sisters. But for me,
Speaker 1: for for for for my industry to move forward, we
Speaker 1: need to. I don't know, just see that we're part
Speaker 1: of it was something the fashion industry is so what's
Speaker 1: the word in its own little bubble. It's a little bubble.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a reckoning and we're all really
Speaker 1: really dealing with it right now. If you if you
Speaker 1: could change one thing about the fashion industry, you know,
Speaker 1: on your own, the magic one, what would you change?
Speaker 1: I mean, I always wanted it to be more inclusive,
Speaker 1: and we're getting there. It's so not enough. I wish
Speaker 1: there were more people from diverse backgrounds behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: not just on the runway. It's not just you know,
Speaker 1: on on phones, but just behind the scenes, not just
Speaker 1: interns at mid level, seal level. That's really what I want. You.
Speaker 1: You did that. You know, one thing I appreciate about you,
Speaker 1: one of the many things, is you you actually did
Speaker 1: that on the ground. When you were able to hire people,
Speaker 1: you made sure to hire people who had previously been excluded.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like you don't hire white people,
Speaker 1: but you hire everybody. Now everybody gets an equal opportunity
Speaker 1: to come into the building. You've changed that. Have you
Speaker 1: seen have you reaped the rewards of that? Have you
Speaker 1: noticed a change within Vogue as a whole. I mean
Speaker 1: for me, but when I look at other magazines and
Speaker 1: I say that it's a norm to have sort of
Speaker 1: women of different shapes, colors, and and I feel that.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was when I took the magazine
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, that wasn't a conversation anybody was having.
Speaker 1: People were like, You're gonna get fired. But I remember
Speaker 1: always saying, if I'm going to get fired, I'm going
Speaker 1: to get fired for something I believed it, not trying
Speaker 1: to be somebody else that you know the world as ready.
Speaker 1: I love that, I really do love that. It's It's
Speaker 1: a fantastic book that I mean, I could talk to
Speaker 1: you for hours about because it talks about everything, the
Speaker 1: AIDS epidemic, it talks about identity as as a gay man,
Speaker 1: It talks about the fashion industry, it talks about your
Speaker 1: life as an African, as an immigrant. It feels like
Speaker 1: you touched on everything. It's a fantastic journey. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you for a favorite, putting you on this spot
Speaker 1: because you have so much, because you don't like create
Speaker 1: the fashion, but you have such an influence. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you to get them to stop saying plus size
Speaker 1: models because then it implies that they're not modeled. Coving.
Speaker 1: I loved yeah, but but I mean, like it's like that.
Speaker 1: One think it's weird because people will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: plus size model, but then it implies that like they
Speaker 1: just model. That's where you want. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: congratulations on everything. Thank you to see that was never bokable.
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