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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to Carol mark Wood Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: My guest today is Jill Savage. Jill is host of

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Speaker 1: the Mandate on Blaize TV and she's working on a

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Speaker 1: series of stories on Coreymills on Blaze dot com. Hi Jill,

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Speaker 1: so nice to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Carol, thanks so much for reaching out to do this.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to learn more about you. I feel

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Speaker 1: like you are a wonderful reporter, and I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like I know a lot about your history through your writing,

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Speaker 1: Like I've read a lot of your stuff. So how

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Speaker 1: did you get your start?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Iowa, right, so it was the

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Speaker 2: first of the nation caucus state. But also like Iowa

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Speaker 2: basketball was like the first thing that I ever loved

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Speaker 2: in So I grew up. I always say, like, sitting

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Speaker 2: next to my dad, whatever he likes, I like. So

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Speaker 2: that was like the sports history.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, So I knew that from an

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Speaker 3: early age.

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Speaker 2: I would say things on watching games before the announcers

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Speaker 2: would say them on TV.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm like, this is so easy. This is totally

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Speaker 3: what I'm going to do in junior high I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is it.

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Speaker 2: And then like as I got through and got a

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Speaker 2: little bit older in high school, I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I still want to do the political stuff too.

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Speaker 3: So I just kind of like meshed together the.

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Speaker 2: Best of both worlds and spent about thirteen years as

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Speaker 2: a sports reporter, and I got to go like I

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Speaker 2: was on like the sidelines for college football and like

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Speaker 2: final fours and national playoff games, and got to work

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Speaker 2: like a World Junior Hockey tournament for NHL Network all

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Speaker 2: around like.

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Speaker 3: Sweden, Finland, the Tech Republic. So it was it was

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Speaker 3: such a good.

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Speaker 2: Experience to just go out there and just like see

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Speaker 2: the world and honestly not have to pay.

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Speaker 3: For sports because they were paying me. Yeah, and then at.

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Speaker 2: Some point, you know, I was like, Okay, well I

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Speaker 2: do actually want to do the political stuff. I actually

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Speaker 2: care about the country. So made the switch on over

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Speaker 2: because I felt like I had so.

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Speaker 3: Much talent inside you, so much more to give.

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Speaker 2: They just like five minutes of television on the sports

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Speaker 2: broad So that's ultimately what led to the change.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's finally on the right more sports conversations,

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Speaker 1: you know. Klay Travis, my co host, and my other

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Speaker 1: show Mary Katherine Ham, they do a lot of crossover

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Speaker 1: sports and politics. Do you find yourself doing that or

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Speaker 1: you just kind of limit to politics right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that because of the focus of our

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Speaker 2: show is Trump and the administration right now.

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Speaker 3: We do try and snake in sports, though, like wherever

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Speaker 3: it's possible.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I just saw Clay this weekend out

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Speaker 2: the day as well as I'm a huge fan of

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Speaker 2: what he's doing, and just the fact that there is

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Speaker 2: some pushback because I will tell you that growing up,

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Speaker 2: just knowing that I love sports and everything that was

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Speaker 2: going on, it was worse on the sports side for journalism.

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Speaker 3: If you think that news reporters.

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Speaker 2: Are boased, well, the journalists that are over on their

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Speaker 2: sports side, they have no filters. They don't think that

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Speaker 2: they need to be impartial, like there's nothing to do.

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Speaker 2: It's stopping them. So it's actually if you think it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, ninety percent of like news journalists, well it's

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Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent of right. Yeah, it's a bad

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Speaker 2: news situation over there. And that's why people like play

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Speaker 2: have had so much success because it.

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Speaker 3: Was literally a wide open lane. Right.

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Speaker 1: Will Kine also is another one who I think does

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Speaker 1: a lot of sports politics crossover.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I know so many like normy guys

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Speaker 1: it just got so political that they don't anymore. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't it wasn't something that had to

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Speaker 2: just keep your TV on ESPN all day, And that's

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Speaker 2: what I would do, like growing up, or you know,

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Speaker 3: It would just be a lot of ESPN.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm like, I don't know the last time

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Speaker 2: and I turned it right off. I don't stick around

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Speaker 2: for anything. There's not any like must watch TV or

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Speaker 3: They've made it so bad. It's really too bad.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much room for it to

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Speaker 1: be the place that all Americans go to to kind

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Speaker 1: of watch the same thing, which we don't really have

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Speaker 1: that much anymore. But so what do you consider your

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Speaker 2: So we have the Mandate, which is all about Trump

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Speaker 2: and the administration and everything that is going on. We

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Speaker 2: had a general news show before that we were doing,

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Speaker 2: but we understood that this is the time that really

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Speaker 2: matters right now to to figure out what's going on

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Speaker 2: with this administration. And even like the rejuvenation, like when

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk came on the season, young men started paying

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Speaker 2: attention in ways that they never did before, and we're like, okay,

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Speaker 3: People want more than just what they're given.

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Speaker 2: And so that's why we we went and changed and

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Speaker 2: just went directly into Trump and the mandate and how

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Speaker 2: to implement what needs to happen at this place in time,

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Speaker 2: because this is it's the best chance that we have,

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Speaker 2: and I don't want to see us all screw this up.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure that this is something that

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Speaker 2: are lasting. Even like during the confirmations for Trump's cabinet, right,

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Speaker 2: I would I would jokingly refer to it like as

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Speaker 2: But people were paying attention to that, like people were

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Speaker 2: you know, like if you hear these conversations that are

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Speaker 1: And how did you get into writing your series on

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Speaker 1: Corey Mills. He's a Republican in Florida, and it's not

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Speaker 1: typical for a right leaning outlet to write I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: call it an expose or would you call it that.

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Speaker 1: It is exposing some things about his life and history

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Speaker 1: that were previously unknown, and it is unusual for an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's one of the things.

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Speaker 3: So I'll answer your first question. How did we get

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Speaker 2: Well, I was out on a helicopter with him during

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Speaker 2: Hurricane Helene out in western North Carolina, and you know

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Speaker 2: Glenn that came with us. There were a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people that were out there just volunteering. We got to

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Speaker 2: spend the entire day with Corey Mills. Now, at the

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Speaker 2: to the airport and Corey was just saying a lot

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Speaker 2: of things that you know, I didn't ask him. Nobody

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Speaker 2: asked him about his personal life the very first day

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Speaker 2: we figured out that he was lying to us in

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Speaker 2: several like there were a couple of different lies. And

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Speaker 2: I thought, okay, well that was really interesting because nobody

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Speaker 2: pushed you on that. You weren't answering a direct question.

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Speaker 2: This is just something that you offered up to us, right,

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Speaker 2: And I thought that was so strange. So I'd gone

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Speaker 2: through and I've probably seen him about five times at

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: They'd both since taken us back since this has all happened,

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Speaker 2: lied to us and said that he was completely single.

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Speaker 2: And so I just go through and honestly, as soon

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Speaker 2: things where he was married by a radical moufti, that

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Speaker 2: he was an unindicted co conspirator for the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: And then there were stolen valor allegations, and you know,

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Speaker 2: he claimed to be an army ranger and jaysack and

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Speaker 2: a sniper and none of those were true. And the

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Speaker 2: cornerstone of him running for Congress. Was I'm a veteran,

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Speaker 2: I was blown up twice in Iraq, and I'm a

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Speaker 2: great business man and you should vote for me. Well,

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Speaker 2: in a fifteen minute phone call with our reporter Peter geedle,

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Speaker 2: Corey actually admitted to him that he wasn't blown up

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Speaker 2: twice in Iraq.

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Speaker 3: He got a concussion on the first one. We're like, okay, sure,

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Speaker 3: and then the second one, Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't

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Speaker 3: think you could tell that we had already talked to

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there were just so many things, and then

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Speaker 2: we'd go and jump into if we can bring in

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Speaker 2: the FBI. This is where the real fun gets started.

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Speaker 2: Is there's a potential rogue FBI agent out there that.

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Speaker 3: Was questioning our sources.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And you know this, This FBI agent reached out

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Speaker 2: to our first source back in November, on November twenty sixth,

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Speaker 2: and she was just saying, Hey, I've been referring to

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Speaker 2: your case and our sources have been trying to like

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Speaker 2: put this news out there, and like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, finally somebody's listening to us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they turn over all the information that they

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Speaker 2: have and then eventually it switches from war. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: we're not actually going to look into the stolen valor

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Speaker 2: allegations anymore. There's no there there. Like, it's fine enough

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Speaker 2: plausible deniability. What do you know about his business feelings?

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Speaker 2: Cory is an international arms dealer and him and his

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Speaker 2: They got married until June of twenty fourteen, and within

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Speaker 2: get a two hundred and twenty eight million dollar contract

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Speaker 2: with Iraq that was so big that even a RAQ

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Speaker 1: But so have you got have you gotten pushback? Like

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Speaker 1: What did you worry about?

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Speaker 2: But now people have to start getting wins in every

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Garens, I want to be a writer. And

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Speaker 1: they were like, that's not a thing, so.

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Speaker 3: I can't do that doing right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I thought, you know, well, okay, Well, if

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Speaker 2: if there are five jobs, well five people will have

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Speaker 2: to do them.

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Speaker 3: I'll figure it out. Like there was like no nepotism here.

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Speaker 3: I had that helping me.

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Speaker 2: I figured it out as I go, And I think

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Speaker 2: that one of the one of the greatest compliments that

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Speaker 2: I have from some of my people that were back

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Speaker 2: in the sports world is like, if there is one

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Speaker 2: thing about Jill Savage, she will figure it out.

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Speaker 3: I think that is the way.

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Speaker 2: That I look at the world. I've lived in six

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Speaker 2: different states. I don't have like ties like that I did.

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Speaker 2: I make myself. Oh I have to do this, I

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Speaker 2: have to live here, I have to do it. I

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Speaker 2: think that I have given myself the flexibility. So the

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Speaker 2: advice that I would have would just be to trust myself,

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Speaker 2: trust my instincts, and network like crazy.

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Speaker 3: This is all about who you know. This is nope.

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Speaker 3: Ones never asked me what you can do the job

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Speaker 3: or you can't.

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Speaker 1: Right, I agree with you about networking, but don't undersell yourself.

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Speaker 1: You are a huge talent. I mean, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's there is a reason why you were like, if

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Speaker 1: there are five jobs, one of those jobs is.

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Speaker 3: Going to be mine.

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Speaker 1: You know, and good for you.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I love that it's a very competitive industry, and I

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Speaker 2: will not shy away from telling people that when I

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Speaker 2: go and speak at colleges or whatever. I say, Hey,

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Speaker 2: my sister's the vice president of the bank. She has

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Speaker 2: a safe, secure job, she has great health care. She

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Speaker 2: knows like every paycheck that she's ever going to have.

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Speaker 2: I live on like a two to three year contract. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, maybe I'm my own out there who knows, like, we'll.

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Speaker 3: Figure it out, right.

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Speaker 2: So you have to be a certain kind of person

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Speaker 2: that is willing to take risks to make it in

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Speaker 2: this in this job.

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Speaker 3: That that is for sure. And I think that.

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Speaker 2: One of one of the fun stories that I have

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Speaker 2: when I was just learning along the way was so

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Speaker 2: I was working for the PAC twelve network. I worked

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Speaker 2: there for about eight years and my boss there at

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Speaker 2: the time text me over Thanksgiving and he says, hey,

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Speaker 2: what do you know about hockey? And I was like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: I got you. What do you need, right, You've never

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Speaker 2: heard down a job in this industry, and so he said, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: this is where the World Junior Hockey Tournament comes in

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Speaker 2: for NHL network. And he's like, yeah, my guy in

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Speaker 2: New York, he's looking for somebody. It's over Christmas the

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Speaker 2: New Years. It's going to be in Sweden.

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Speaker 3: Are you willing to go?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, sure, count me in, Like

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Speaker 2: whenever that needs to happen, Carol.

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Speaker 3: I knew nothing about hockey.

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Speaker 1: I bought I'll learn about hockey on the flight, right.

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Speaker 3: On the flight home, as we do.

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Speaker 2: And so then I knew I had a month. It

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Speaker 2: was Thanksgiving. It I didn't have to leave until like Christmas.

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Speaker 3: And Son for you, you're going to become a pro.

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Speaker 2: And hockey please, So I take every single hockey game

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Speaker 2: between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I wrote out on a yellow

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Speaker 2: legal pad all the questions that the reporters asked.

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Speaker 3: I said, these are legitimate hockey questions. I know sports.

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Speaker 2: I can make it go from here. And then my

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Speaker 2: producer at the time was a huge hockey fan, so

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Speaker 2: I would buy him lunch and I would say, tell

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Speaker 2: me what you're watching at this point in time. And

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Speaker 2: so I worked that job for seven years and it

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Speaker 2: was some of the most fun memories that I have

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Speaker 2: now in there.

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Speaker 3: So that's like, go ahead, take risks.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, you don't have to be tied down to

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Speaker 2: one thing, and I think that's something different that like

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Speaker 2: my dad just had like the same company for like

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Speaker 2: thirty five years that he has worked for.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I make it like ten years with

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Speaker 3: the company, I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look at this, right, and I have.

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Speaker 2: I think Packbell Network was in eight years. I think

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Speaker 2: that's the longest that it's been.

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Speaker 3: But it's just it's okay to make things up as

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Speaker 3: we go along.

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Speaker 2: No way knows what they're doing or I'll figure this out,

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Speaker 2: so have fun with it.

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Speaker 1: I love that I've loved this conversation. I've always wanted

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Speaker 1: to know more about you and us. Here with your

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Speaker 1: best tip for my listeners on how they can improve

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Speaker 1: their lives.

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Speaker 2: So my best tip is I always look at my

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Speaker 2: life as chapters of my life, and if something isn't

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Speaker 2: going well, flip the.

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Speaker 3: Page and start a new chapter.

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Speaker 2: I think it's easy for me to look at this

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Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, here's like childhood, your sports, here's politics.

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Speaker 2: But you can go through and figure out if something's

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Speaker 2: not going well well, make the changes that are necessary

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Speaker 2: in your life. You don't have to have everything completely

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Speaker 2: figured out. I have learned throughout my time that if

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Speaker 2: I jump and take that risk, that I.

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Speaker 3: Will figure it out right.

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Speaker 2: And I think that you have to identify what lights

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Speaker 2: you up, as you said, like this investigation.

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Speaker 3: It lights me up.

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Speaker 2: Figure out what does that for you, and do more

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Speaker 2: of it. And I can tell you that the best

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Speaker 2: chapter of my life is the one that I'm currently in.

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Speaker 2: I have love it had more fun than what.

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Speaker 3: I am doing right now.

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Speaker 2: And I think that a lot of people, like just

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Speaker 2: from the outside looking in, they would say, oh, but

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Speaker 2: like the football games are probably more fun, right if

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Speaker 2: you're a football fan.

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Speaker 3: And I still am a football fan. I love like Carol,

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Speaker 3: I can stimony couch.

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Speaker 2: All day on Saturdays and watch college football from starts

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Speaker 2: to end.

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Speaker 3: I love that. But I know that the best use

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Speaker 3: for my talents is what I'm doing right now with

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Speaker 3: the show, with the investigative stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I can't wait, like to keep going on that

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Speaker 2: journey because I think this is actually just the starting.

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Speaker 3: Point for the rest of my career. It's where you belong.

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Speaker 1: I love it. She is Jill Savage. Watch her on

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Speaker 1: The Mandate on Blaize TV. Read her on blaze dot com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on, Jill.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Carol,