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Speaker 1: Matt Mosden on the show today. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it being here.

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Speaker 1: It's great and we're stoked to have you. And I'm

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Speaker 1: they're watching. And today you're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: you know, your background and running for Congress, that you're

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Speaker 1: about to throw your hat. You've thrown your hat in

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Speaker 1: So let's meet Matt Masdam, Democrat for Congress. Forged by

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Speaker 1: his service as a Navy seal, Matt has dedicated his

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Speaker 1: He lives in mid Michigan with his wife, Laura, a

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Speaker 1: their cat Captain America. A graduate of the University of Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Matt pledged an oath to defend our country and constitution

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Speaker 1: when he joined the Navy shortly after college and became

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Speaker 1: Over twenty years in the Navy, he served in some

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Speaker 1: about Matt is He was also put in charge of

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Speaker 1: find his own This is off my head, by the way.

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Speaker 1: He went off to find his own multiple e commerces

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Speaker 1: Right, and that's a very okay. So we can read

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Speaker 1: all about you, right, like I just kind of did

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Speaker 1: dot com? Right, and it's got everything about you, your bio,

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Speaker 1: you know what's your what you're what you're moving yourself towards.

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Speaker 1: Right at any given time. You can't do this by yourself,

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Speaker 1: That is right, and you've done nothing but give yourself

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Speaker 3: Yeah, service to my country is something I'm huge on, right.

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Speaker 3: It's a time that you're given to your country that

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Speaker 3: it was it was great and through that water pole

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Speaker 1: I mean, like it's deep, right, You're like you a

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Speaker 1: Well, because they're rolling you underwater and like ripping your

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Speaker 3: Dots on the rope, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Yeah, And I can get all the

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Speaker 1: My wife's really good. But I just think about free

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Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot of documentaries on Discovery back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know they're not dying, Okay, Okay, we

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Speaker 3: take extreme efforts to make sure things are safe, right,

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Speaker 3: and so people do pass out.

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Speaker 1: Underwater, well they're giving it, They're all That's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Rest assured that we have somebody right there to like

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Speaker 3: They come back and they're all they care about is

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Speaker 3: Right. These are all people who are put in their

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Speaker 3: And so people really care about cost of living, they

435
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Speaker 3: really care about preservation of freedom and making sure the

436
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 3: American way of life continues. Right, the American dream is

437
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 3: still kind of alive, correct.

438
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: You know that people have you know, their own somignty

439
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 1: over their own bodies, you know, to do what they

440
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: wish with as themselves, you know, male or female, or

441
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: you know that they have the ability to choose who

442
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: they want to be in an elected office with a

443
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Speaker 1: voting system that is you know, tried and true and

444
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: not tainted with you know propaganda out there of you know,

445
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: election interference and things like that that gets thrown around

446
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 1: and we get polarized with those words, you know. So

447
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: I just remember growing up in my household. So I'm

448
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: forty eight years old, so I grew up in the

449
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, and I'd always ask my dad. It

450
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: was like Reagan versus do Caucus, Caucus versus Bush, something

451
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: like that. Right, it was on TV. Right, it was

452
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: just like talking, and I was like, who you're voting for?

453
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't have to tell you that. And

454
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm his son, and I was like, Dad, I got

455
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: my own little outfit and everything, just like you pop, like,

456
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: you're not gonna tell me this classified information. And he

457
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: just looked at me. He said, it's my right as

458
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: an American to not have to tell you who I choose.

459
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: Flash forward to like Obama and whoever was voting, whoever

460
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: Obama was going against. I took him to go vote.

461
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: He comes out. I'm like, so, who'd you vote for?

462
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't have to tell you. Nothing ever

463
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Speaker 1: changed with that, and I have always held on to that.

464
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Speaker 1: So I tell my kids, I don't have to tell you. Yeah,

465
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: I tell people, I don't have to tell you. That

466
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: is my right as an American. I can choose a

467
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: B or C as my vote if that's what's on

468
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: the ballot. I don't have to say anything. So, my son,

469
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Speaker 1: you see so many flags waving. You know, it's like

470
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Speaker 1: I've never saw colors. I saw colors the movie Crips

471
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: and Bloods, but I've never seen colors like these flags

472
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm seeing waving all over you know.

473
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like, and that's what we're fighting for

474
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: as Americans, right, yeah, your right to vote, your right

475
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: to freedom, You're right to do the things you want

476
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: to do. And so you know, a story along those lines.

477
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: When I was in Iraq, I guarded the vice President

478
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: of Iraq because this guy's name was Sprouse Shatways. He

479
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: was occurred from northern Iraq. He actually led the Kurdish

480
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: resistance against Saddam Hussein after Saddam killed like five thousand

481
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Speaker 3: people with chemical weapons in nineteen eighty eight. So this

482
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: guy was tough, right, He spoke five languages, electrical engineer,

483
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 3: PhD like head of the Kurdish parliament. Fantastic human and

484
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: fighting for his country. And you know, Saddam took over.

485
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: They didn't I don't know if they had elections, but

486
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 3: he was authoritarian, you know what I mean. So there

487
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: was no free elections at that point. And I was

488
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: guarding this guy who was two thousand and five and

489
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 3: the first election for the country came up when we

490
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Speaker 3: were there, when I was guarding.

491
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Speaker 1: So.

492
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Speaker 3: I'm watching this guy who's fought for his country, you know,

493
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: for decades, so that he could have what we have

494
00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 3: here in America every election cycle. And in that or

495
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: in that election, you know, multiple suicide bombers killed dozens

496
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: of people across the country, people trying to vote, and

497
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: you know, I was guarding this guy. So we went

498
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: up to the the ballot box and I'm like, good lord.

499
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Speaker 3: It was the tensest I think I I was in

500
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Speaker 3: that entire you know, we were like his secret service. Yeah,

501
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: so it was the tensest I think I was the

502
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: whole time going up to the election pool because like

503
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: everybody knew where he was going to vote, and so

504
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: you could have planned a bomb there. Yeah, And they

505
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: were really good at that point with kind of remote

506
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Speaker 3: detonated devices. And so we went up there and he voted,

507
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: and he was so proud, like, you know, decades of

508
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Speaker 3: service to get to that point, and it was so

509
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Speaker 3: neat to see him get that accomplished. And and like

510
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Speaker 3: it gave.

511
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Speaker 1: Dip his finger, right, he dipped his finger in something purple.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to dip their finger finger to show

513
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Speaker 3: that they.

514
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Speaker 1: Had voted and they can't vote again. Yeah, yeah, so.

515
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Speaker 3: They couldn't vote again, so finger in ink.

516
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: So proud those pictures. I don't know if it makes.

517
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeahs showed that they had voted right right, So it

518
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: was such a neat thing. And then like to think,

519
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: it's something in America that we just we kind of,

520
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to say take it for granted necessarily,

521
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: but we assume it's going to be that way all

522
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Speaker 3: the time. And this guy had fought for decades to

523
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: get it to be that way in Iraq, and I'm

524
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Speaker 3: happy that it is today.

525
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: So really a lot of folks need to maybe think

526
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: twice about what was really transpiring over there was the

527
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: fact of trying to have a democracy and today they

528
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: just had elections just today, yesterday they just had elections

529
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Speaker 1: for a new for Iraq. Like it's it's continuing. This

530
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: is kind of been embedded now whether it's you know,

531
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: it'll be sorted out through their their mechanisms, that's up

532
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: to them. But you know, they got to vote again,

533
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Speaker 1: and I didn't hear of anything blowing up.

534
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't heard it. You know, they've been stable, Yes,

535
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 3: for quite some time. So that's fantastic, A good job.

536
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good job.

537
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: So when I came back from that, I went to

538
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: grad school and did a couple other things in the Navy.

539
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: But after that I got selected as President Obama's military

540
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: aid from the Navy. So there are five military aids

541
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: at a time, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast

542
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: Guard at the time. Now there's Space Force in addition.

543
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: And it was a fantastic role. So in that role,

544
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: you carry the nuclear codes for the president, right, and

545
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: so it's wild, but it's like you kind of in

546
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: that capacity, you take care of everything from say starting

547
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: at like a nine to eleven event all the way

548
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: to nuclear war. Now, while that's incredibly important, you know,

549
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: it's it's probably one percent of your job because like

550
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: the ninety nine percent is you're coordinating the activities of

551
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: the White House Military Office, and so you're making sure

552
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: the president can do their job. Air Force one, helicopters, drivers, communicators,

553
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: all these people, and you're coordinating their efforts and that

554
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: with Secret Service in the White House staff to make

555
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: sure the president can do what they need to do.

556
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: And so that was that was me. It was a

557
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: big role and so but a fun role. And you're

558
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: inside the bubble, so you get to see kind of

559
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: how the executive branch works from the inside, which is great.

560
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: And we went to things like State of the Union

561
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: addresses and you get to see how the legislator and

562
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: the executive branch, you know, get along and function. So

563
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: fantastic job. But every day there is intense as you

564
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: can imagine. Not only are you carrying the nuclear codes

565
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: and ready for that, but just being around the President

566
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: and other you know, his crew. Yeah, it's like you

567
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: have to be on your game because questions that have

568
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: implications throughout the time, and events come up that some

569
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: of them are false alarms and some of them are

570
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: you know, quite died down. But events come up all

571
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: the time. And I'll give you an example. So I

572
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: was flying across the country or flying west from DC

573
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: on Air Force one. I get a call and somebody

574
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: and the guy said, hey, we've just had a plane

575
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: take off out of JFK to New York City squawk

576
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: and hijack. And they don't have any comms. And this

577
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: is shortly, you know, it's not too long after nine

578
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: to eleven. It is two thousand and I was like, okay,

579
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: tell me more, and they said, we don't have any more.

580
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well I need more. I said, like

581
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 3: they said, what I said, is the cockpit secure? How

582
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: many people are on board? Where's the plane going? Did

583
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: anybody take responsibility?

584
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: Right?

585
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of going through these checklist things. I go,

586
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: you have one minute. I hang up the phone, I

587
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: walk up. I get it was Valerie Jarrett was the

588
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: person that was responsible for the staff at that moment.

589
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: And I said, hey, Valerie, we got this thing in

590
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: New York. And I explained it to her. Her eyes

591
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: get big and she's like, we need to tell the

592
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: BOS and I said not yet, give me one one minute.

593
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: And because nothing's going to change, right and that, like

594
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: I can't affect anything at that point. The President's safe,

595
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: which is a big concern of mine, Like we're able

596
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: to communicate with the country if that is needed, We're okay.

597
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: And so but you know I have that presence. I'm calm,

598
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: right like, because calm is contagious, and if I get worked.

599
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Up, everybody it's contagious, that's right.

600
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: And so I stayed calm, and I you know people

601
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: are watching me because they could see what was happening.

602
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: And I get back on the phone and said, hey,

603
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: you know, what's the update, and and the guy goes, hey,

604
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: funny thing, you know, they don't have any communications. But

605
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: the guy like bumped the hijack button and everything's okay.

606
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: They didn't actually get hijacked, they just didn't have any comms.

607
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, yeah, important update. And so

608
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad I didn't take that to the president and

609
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: ruin his day.

610
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: Right.

611
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: But it's a good example of the stuff that comes

612
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: up to that person. And it's also a great example

613
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: of staying calm because those things, you know, panicking does

614
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: not assist with a successful resolution of anything, right, Like

615
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: staying calm and being you know, clear thinking the whole

616
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: time is what you want to see.

617
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because especially if you're underwater and you start freaking out,

618
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose your air quicker. Yeah, you stay calm

619
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: and you let a couple of bubbles out, you're gonna

620
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: sit down there for a minute and be like, hey,

621
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: this is kind of I got control over my situation. Right. Yeah,

622
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: I've just been getting better at swimming. I've just been

623
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: getting better at the pool by going to it.

624
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: That's good. I love the pool is great. The oceans,

625
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: the oceans where it's at, though, you got to go

626
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: out there and you know, get used to that.

627
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous of that big open water. But

628
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I do have respect for the Navy with regards to

629
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: all the jokes that are out there from all the branches.

630
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, they're doing everything that you do on

631
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: a boat.

632
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: Okay, it's good. You know, my wife, my wife is

633
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: a helicopter pilot in the Navy, right, and so she's

634
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: having the land on the ships in like heavy seas

635
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: at night when it's raining. Yeah, the ship's rocking, and

636
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: so I think, you know, it's challenging enough to land

637
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: a helicopter on the ground correctly, let alone, you know,

638
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: if the ground.

639
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: Is moving or moving in fog.

640
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And so in the the you know, the

641
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: blade of her of her helicopter is just inches from

642
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: the superstructure of this ship. Like those sheep don't have

643
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: extra room, and so like if you you're off a foot, like.

644
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Your helicopter disaster. Yeah.

645
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: And so my wife and I actually met at survival

646
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: school at Pow Training School in the Navy, which was fantastic.

647
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: So after seal training, you go to seer school. It's survive, Evade, Resistant,

648
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: escape is what that stands for.

649
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: And so.

650
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Speaker 3: Fifty seven guys in the class, three women in a

651
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: sixty person class, mostly aircrew and helicopter, mostly aircrew, pilots

652
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: and seals, and we go and it's miserable, right, like

653
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: you don't eat for a week, you're getting beat up,

654
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: you don't don't sleep. And so we're out in the

655
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: field and she was so chipper and excited and smiling,

656
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: happy to be there, and like everything we did, she like,

657
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: you know, she was volunteering to be the first person.

658
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Just so happy. And at the end, you know, she's

659
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: still that happy after after you know, getting slapped across

660
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 3: the face and putting boxes and you know, getting you know,

661
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: kind of tortured ish.

662
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: And so.

663
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: I said to her, how are you are you enjoying this? Like,

664
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: how is this? You're so happy? And she's she said,

665
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: I just wanted to do this my whole life. It's fantastic.

666
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here, and I'm like, I

667
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: need more of this person in my life. So I

668
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: asked her out right at the end of the.

669
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: School trauma bond at its finest.

670
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: Years later, we were married, you know what I mean.

671
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: So I love it, still married this day, you know,

672
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: twenty plus years, have two kids, and so.

673
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: You can survive that, you can survive anything together.

674
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's tough rugby for the academy, like tough to so.

675
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: And so she's ready for the political theater that you're

676
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: about to get into here.

677
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as much as she's going to be.

678
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: You know, she is very supportive of me doing it.

679
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: I don't think she would want to do it herself,

680
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: but you know, it's it's one of those things where

681
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: she loves that I want to contribute to the country

682
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: and serve the country in this capacity.

683
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: I love. That reminds me of something my dad would

684
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: tell me when I'd be like, I don't know if

685
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: I want to do that, and he's like, well why not.

686
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've never done it, and he's like,

687
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: well then why not. I was like, well, He's like,

688
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: well if not you, then who you know? Kind of

689
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: attitude is what he's like. You never know until you try, ye,

690
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: And so you know, it seems like you've got a

691
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: pretty good head on your shoulders, you know, you've made

692
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: it this far in your in your lifespan, so you know, yeah.

693
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 3: And I have a unique perspective on things, right, like

694
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: having gone to war. Yeah, having been a seal, gone

695
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: to war and carry the nuclear codes gives you this

696
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: kind of like we're gonna be okay perspective, Like bad

697
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: stuff comes up from time to time, to fight through

698
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: it and sometimes it sucks, but we can do it right, Like,

699
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: this is something we can do the country. If you

700
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: don't like the direction it's going, I think we're a

701
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: couple of good voices from getting it back to that place.

702
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: And so this is not something that's impossible. It's not

703
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: something that is permanent or you know, unfixable, Like you

704
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: move forward in ups and downs, and we're going to

705
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: get there, and we're going to get there together.

706
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: Which would be great if you could get out to

707
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: like an appropriations committee, you know, or like anything like

708
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: those types of things where you have experience from your

709
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: your perspective to bring to like the military. Right, it's like, hey,

710
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, did you say three point eight percent raise

711
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: for everybody?

712
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: Bro?

713
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: Like, did you really just say that little of a raise?

714
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you should try like a fifteen percent raise? You know,

715
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: if you want retention, Yeah, I mean really we want retention.

716
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: We want guys like you and gals like your wife

717
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: and those that have served to remain because you guys

718
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: have gone through it and put all the effort in there.

719
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: But when a civilian job's kind of chomping at you

720
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: a little bit looking here, and you know, the army

721
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: or the military branch you're in is like, well, we

722
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: can't meet this extra ten thousand a month.

723
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard. And like I think the people that

724
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: are in the military, they do it for love of country,

725
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And so it's service above

726
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: lining your pocket books. And like, for me, the reason

727
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: I got out was family. And I had two kids

728
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: at the White House, two little boys, and like I

729
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: was looking at my future career, knowing that I would

730
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: be gone seventy five percent of the time, and I

731
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: look at that and I'm like, no, No, I had

732
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: these kids, and I want to be a good dad,

733
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: I want to be a good husband. I want to

734
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: be you know, a great family. And so I transitioned

735
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: to the reserves at that point because of that, and

736
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: worked at civilian jobs, right, I worked at under Omar

737
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: like you had talked about a little bit and started

738
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: some companies and it's it's one of those I care

739
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: about my family. I want to be a good role

740
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: model to my boys. And that's a big reason why

741
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: I'm running for office now, is because I want I'm

742
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: I say to them all the time, like, be the

743
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: change you want to see, kandhi right. But also, we

744
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: don't complain about problems. We solve them right, like, like

745
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: we're not here to bitch about it, We're here to

746
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: make it better. And so that's what I'm trying to do.

747
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: I love that. And so you know, I'm not saying like, hey,

748
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: you're the one hundred percent perfect person in this world,

749
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: but I do like what you're saying right now, and

750
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: it makes sense to me. And you know, I would

751
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: hope that you have a really good, valiant effort towards

752
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: your goal of you know, attaining this new position in life. Yeah,

753
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I hope the folks in Michigan might

754
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: maybe a listener out there who's in Michigan will look

755
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: you up and just read on you themselves, like learn

756
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: about you that yourself, do some recon you know, read

757
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: into your candidates and just kind of say, hey, does

758
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: this person kind of go along with what I want

759
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: to vote for because they're gonna be on my ballot,

760
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: And so if they're going to be on the ballot,

761
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: you should be looking at that candidate and not just

762
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, choosing you know, an elephant in the room

763
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: or a donkey or you know, anything like that. Just

764
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: look at the candidate and see if they align with you.

765
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm just putting that out there. And you can do

766
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: that by visiting Matt's website, which is mattmsdam dot com.

767
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: And he's got all sorts of different bio and you know,

768
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: you're what you're about. I noticed that there's a donate

769
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: button up there, right you are?

770
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: There is yeah, part of things.

771
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: It is, and and we always hear about that, you know,

772
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: whether it's like Bernie Sanders, like I just need two

773
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: dollars or one dollar, or whether it's the guy on

774
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: the other side of the aisle who's a Republican. Let

775
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: me think Trump, I need you to buy a one

776
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars gold watch, right, Okay, come on man.

777
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: Anyways, you know, money is a hard part of politics,

778
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: Like you have to have the money to get things done,

779
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: to run for office, so you know people are going

780
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: to ask you those for support and so, but it's

781
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: not for me, it's it's honestly for the country. So

782
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: it's a better place. The district I'm running is it's

783
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: exactly fifty percent Republicans and fifty percent Democrats, and so

784
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: it's it's one of those where it kind of shows

785
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: the whole country which way things are leaning, you know,

786
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: for that election, and this is going to be a

787
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 3: close one.

788
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: And so, I mean, groceries on both sides, haven't you know,

789
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: they're they're still going up like fourteen percent increase on commeters.

790
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: You know, there's like, you know, gasoline has not I

791
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: don't my local like grocery store gives me like points

792
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: on my purchase towards gas. I'm still not hitting two bucks.

793
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, those things play into it, right, And so prices

794
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: are going up and wages aren't going up as fast,

795
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: so people are affording less.

796
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: Minimum wage is still seven to twenty five. I know

797
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: you're not running for president. I know you're running from Michigan,

798
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: but the mindset is kind of like, you know, you

799
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: still have those people that you're going to be you know,

800
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: advocating for.

801
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and Look, if you work your whole life

802
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: like and you work hard, you should be able to

803
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: be somewhat comfortable, right and not scraping by at the end.

804
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: You should have a you should be able to send

805
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: your kids to school. You should be able to afford

806
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: a house. You should be able to afford food on

807
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 3: your table.

808
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: And so have food on your table.

809
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, have food on your table. Take take a vacation

810
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: now and then right, and so it's those kind of

811
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: things we're after and making sure like the most people

812
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: can do, like can be successful to the longest period

813
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: of time. That's what I'm looking for. And so I'm

814
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: not looking to line pocketbooks. I'm not looking to take

815
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: away freedoms. I'm looking to preserve freedoms and make sure

816
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: people can live a good life and the most people can.

817
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: Well, I feel good about what you're saying. If I

818
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: was just, you know, first time talking with you, and

819
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: you were having a round table with me right now,

820
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: and you know, just go in the circles. Okay, let's

821
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: throw then out there. For the veteran who is in

822
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: Michigan that needs to have like legalized cannabis, what's your

823
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: position on something like that? For you know, medicinal use. Uh,

824
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: let's throw that out there because I have a lot

825
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: of veterans.

826
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: So we are we are the model state in the

827
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: country for how to get it stood up and be

828
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: a successful business. So that's nice to see. So if

829
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: people need it, they can definitely get it.

830
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: It's already happening in Michigan. Yeah, it's not fought over,

831
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: it's just understood. And is that the governor Gretchen.

832
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: Uh, Gretchen Whitmer.

833
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: She's fantastic, yes, right, right, and yeah, but I mean

834
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: she's had her trials and tribulations with people attempting things

835
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: to her and her life or.

836
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she you know, she was in the presidential

837
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: you know nominee kind of mentioned and so I think

838
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: that brought a lot of attention to her. And there's

839
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: some militia folks who who tried to you know, they're

840
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: planning to kidnapp her back in the day, and so

841
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: that was very frightening. It is not a good thing

842
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: at all. No, it should not be tolerated in any

843
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: capacity from either side like it is to be condoned period,

844
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: whether it's somebody trying to kidnap Whipmer or you know,

845
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: attempting an assassination, like, no, that's not how he comes here, right, No,

846
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: it is hard to work with the other side of

847
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: the aisle. It is not easy. We do not have

848
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: the same vision of things or you know, necessarily all

849
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: the same values. But you want to you need to

850
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: work together and cooperate and compromise a little and we'll

851
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: move forward step by step together.

852
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to have like some humble houses, you know,

853
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: like everybody all just needs to be like we don't

854
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: talk about that about each other, Like we don't say

855
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: that about the other person, Like we're not going to

856
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: let that question, you know, be derogatory towards my opponent,

857
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: because you know, like Senator John McCain, you know, the

858
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: late John McCain said, you know, I mean he's like, no,

859
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to let you talk about anybody negative

860
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: like that, and we're going to move on with your question.

861
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: And he just was able to like, you know, just

862
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: let it go off his back like a turtle, okay,

863
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: with armor. But like now today it's so much like

864
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: you know, picking on people's disabilities, people on their features,

865
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: like going at them like a kid in eighth grade,

866
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, bullying it's just like I just would like

867
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: to see more. You know, we don't say that about

868
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: each other.

869
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Speaker 3: We just read this is a great You're making a

870
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: great point. And one of the things that the Seal

871
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: teams does a really good job of, and I think

872
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: people don't know this enough, is obviously we're tough guys, right.

873
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: We get put in tough situations and we train to

874
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: that and we're good at it. Another thing we get

875
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: trained to be is compassionate in kind. Right, if you're

876
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: going if you're at war and you're going into somebody's house,

877
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: and you might like you're going into a bomber's house, right,

878
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: you might have to kill this guy. You're ready to

879
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: shoot somebody as you're going in the door. And on

880
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: the other when you get through the door, there might

881
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: be a baby there, There might be an old woman,

882
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: there might be a little girl.

883
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: Right.

884
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: You have to be able to instantly toggle between I

885
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: need to protect this person and take care of them

886
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: or shoot them.

887
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: Right.

888
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: And so we get taught to be tough and kind

889
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: or tough and compassionate, and that's something that you can do.

890
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: They are not mutually exclusive. You can be both, right,

891
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: And so when I see leaders or people who are

892
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: only tough and they're on the mean dto tough and

893
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: they're just proven to the world that they're a badass.

894
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: I think that they're misguiding. I think that they're only

895
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 3: half the man they could be or woman they could be. Right,

896
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: if you should be tough and kind, you can be

897
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: both at the same time.

898
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Speaker 1: And I think it's in all of them. And I

899
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: think that they just there's this bravado, right, and it's

900
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: like I gotta have this, Like it's almost like they

901
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: think they're just blowing up on Instagram and they got

902
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: to keep doing the same thing over and over and

903
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: over again, when in fact, you know that starts to

904
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: get stale and then you'll, oh, I got to change

905
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: it up. Well, let me go a different route. And

906
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: it's like I watched it a couple of times, but

907
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm kind of getting you're just kind of coming up

908
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: with shticks now, right, versus like, you know, yeah, so kind,

909
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: compassion and you know, be ready to knock someone out right.

910
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: I box every single day, bro.

911
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: You have to. That's the that's the tough part of it.

912
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: Like you have to be hard and tough and strong

913
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: and ready to go and you need to use those

914
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: same skills to protect people who need help, correct, right,

915
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: And so you're not there to beat on people who

916
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: are weaker. You're you're there to help people who are weaker. Like,

917
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: that's correct, That's part of the game, and that's what

918
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Speaker 3: warriors do. And when you see fighters, whether they're MMA

919
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: guys or boxers or tie muay Thai guys, like the

920
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: guys that I know that do that professionally are the

921
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: nicest people in the world. And it's because they know

922
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: they can knock you out in a tenth of a

923
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: second if they have right, right, So they don't have

924
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 3: to prove anything in terms of their physicality and toughness,

925
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: and that gives them the opportunity to be kind and

926
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: gracious and compassionate, right, Like, shouldn't we all do that?

927
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Speaker 1: I think? So? I mean, really, you know, just I

928
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: agree with you, Yeah, I do. I don't know, if

929
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: you know. I'm not trying to like bag on the

930
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: situation of having like these combat fights at Nations, at

931
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: our at our White House, you know, but if we're

932
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: going to have combat fights happening with these rings and

933
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: everything all set up on the Rose Garden, it should

934
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: be with congressmen and women. Okay, yeah, let's roll in there,

935
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: all right, you guys want to get something done, let's go, right,

936
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: it seems it's all legit. What's in the ring? Okay? Yeah,

937
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: all right, leave it in the ring right out of

938
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: your sense, So let's go. You know.

939
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know that's one thing the current

940
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 3: president does well, I think is you know, he goes

941
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: to these sporting events that are popular with people. Yeah,

942
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: and so whether it's MMA stuff or NASCAR or NFL

943
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: football or baseball, all like you know.

944
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Speaker 1: He's using like a pass to get into all these places,

945
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: is what it is. Because he just roll right in

946
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: and you get to go. Because if you were like

947
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: security detail for Obama and Obama's like, hey, let's go

948
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: to NASK Let's go to the Indy five hundred real quick,

949
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: it's like who's gonna stop that second of all, well,

950
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to give him something to sit in

951
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: a special room. So you get the best seat in

952
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: the house, and you're gonna roll with him because you're

953
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: got in the football You're like, hey, what's up Nascar?

954
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: You know. So all these guys hanging around that bubble

955
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: feel like they got like this this god passed to

956
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: the events.

957
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, well maybe you know, they got a job to do. Well,

958
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: they're there. So the security guys in particular those events.

959
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Well not those guys, I'm saying. The guys like when

960
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: I see, you know, the current president at a football

961
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: game and then you see the commander or no, like

962
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: the Defense Secretary of War Hexath's standing next to him,

963
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: and then you see Mike Johnson standing next to him,

964
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and the government's all shut down and they're chilling there

965
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: flying around on the Air Force one. It just doesn't

966
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: it's bad optics.

967
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. You know, I love going to those

968
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: sporting events, like we Eric Jones NASCAR ever forty three

969
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: is from this district that I'm running for, and like

970
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: I know them a little bit, and we go to

971
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 3: the race when it's here in Michigan International Speedway, the

972
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: NASCAR race, and it is awesome. Like that kind of

973
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: stuff is so much fun, whether it's going to a

974
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: big football game or a NASCAR event or you know,

975
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: like those things are so fun to watch and particularly

976
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: in person, like it's so loud and just thunderous, and

977
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of strategy that goes into

978
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: all that stuff. It looks simple, like why you know,

979
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: why is this? Yeah, you're like why, Like why is

980
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: this hard? You know what I mean? They're just driving

981
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: a circle, Like, oh my god, the strategy that goes

982
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: into the gas consumption and what we you know, how

983
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: many tires they change and who's in front of them

984
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: and what team are you on and what kind of

985
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: engine you have and like all of it matters, and

986
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: you got to go pee on the watch.

987
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

988
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 3: It's one hundred and sixty in the car and they're

989
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: wearing they're wearing cooling suits.

990
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: And it's just like i's got a pe man, let's go.

991
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're going to miles an hour, yeah, four

992
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: inches away from another car, you know, and.

993
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: They're like in baked and they're like on a really

994
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: huge degree.

995
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: Bank track in Daytona, right, and so it's like it's awesome.

996
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Though.

997
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: I love that stuff, and so my kids love it.

998
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: I love it. You know, it's fun to do that

999
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: stuff as a family.

1000
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: So well, that's cool to do it as a family.

1001
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm okay with doing it as a family, right, That's okay,

1002
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: that's okay, But you know, I'll keep that to a

1003
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: minimal because I had to remember the warning I said

1004
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: at the beginning the Internet it's real. So yeah, that's right,

1005
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I love that. I want my

1006
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: show to keep going, so I don't want anybody from

1007
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: real TV reality shows to shut me down in charge

1008
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: of licensing. I just can't be I don't even know. Yeah,

1009
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: I got all sorts of smack talk, but you know,

1010
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: I saw my listener and my viewer that tunes into

1011
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: us from any of these platforms to just know that,

1012
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, you and I had just met today and

1013
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: just had this conversation back and forth. I didn't know

1014
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: what direction or or really a lot of your politics

1015
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: and and just talking to you. And if if what

1016
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: you're going to bring to the table is what we've

1017
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: talked about today, you know, that's what we kind of

1018
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: need at the table, right is that? And it should

1019
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: be like kind of like a round table, I kind

1020
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: of like King Arthur's you know round table where it's like,

1021
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: what's going on here, what's going on here? What's going

1022
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 1: on here?

1023
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 3: You know, take care of the country, bring costs down

1024
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: for people, strong national security, like it's not super complicated.

1025
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: So with a good with a critical thinker at the helm.

1026
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: That would be like you right being the critical thinker,

1027
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be the captain. So you just keep

1028
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: with that focus, you keep your head down and just

1029
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. And you know, I'll be

1030
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: stoked to watch you on all of your different pressers and.

1031
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: Yep, it'll it'll heat up, you know, like the election

1032
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: is still a little bit off, so people.

1033
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: When it happens, me and my wife, I'll just be

1034
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: like yeah, no, yeah, we're homies. No, yeah, come back

1035
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: me and Matt right here.

1036
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 3: Please again in the summer when things are hot and heavy, you.

1037
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: Know, so please yeah, have you your team or you

1038
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: reach out and you guys have a welcome platform back

1039
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: here to you know, have any type of conversation even

1040
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: if it sooner whatever's going on. If you're like hey

1041
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: late breaking, hit me up. You know, we'll get it

1042
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: out there. And again, thanks again for being on the show.

1043
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: And I've had you for about an hour's time and

1044
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: I know you're busy doing a lot of this, so

1045
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: you know, here's to a great kickoff for you. Makes

1046
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: your best of luck, yes, and and you're wonderful and

1047
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: thanks to your team and to my listener. This is

1048
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: Matt Mosdam who's running for Congress in Michigan in sounds

1049
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: like district forty three. So if you're in that neck

1050
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: of the woods, oh, district seven. Oh number forty three

1051
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: was a NASCAR driver.

1052
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

1053
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out again, number forty three,

1054
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: District seven in Michigan. Right, shout out to your governor,

1055
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, live long and prosper right there to her, okay,

1056
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: and yeah one hundred percent, and and to you as well. Okay,

1057
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: So boy, what else do I want to say? Oh? Yeah,

1058
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: the merch store. Don't forget you guys. Go to the

1059
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: merch store right it hit all the bells, the whistles,

1060
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: the light subscribes, because if it wasn't for you that

1061
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: really you know us, we're talking to you right there,

1062
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: listener in District seven, that's who we're talking to right now. Okay,

1063
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: So thanks again for being on the show, and again

1064
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: you're welcome back anytime on software.

1065
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: Thanks God, bless our troops, and thank you. Rad I

1066
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: appreciate man.

1067
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: All right, hey, thanks, I appreciate that. And this is

1068
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: rad On behalf of Brand New Web and I'm my

1069
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: producer Callum and everyone behind the scenes who really helped

1070
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: keep this going. Thank you so much. And to the

1071
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: fireplace that seems to work all the time. Thanks, I

1072
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: appreciate that. So this is rad say in peace.

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Speaker 2: You've been listening to self recreating