1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: It has never given me pause or made me feel 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: threatened in any kind of way because Chris does not 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: want Giselle's fifty year old puss. He has no why 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: would he want that when he has this. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Canda's Diller Bassett 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: by after these quick ass hey rain drop. So on 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 2: today's episode of Reality with the King, I am joined 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: by a woman that I'm a huge fan of. She 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: was surprised, but are you guys gonna be surprised? I'm 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: talking about Candace Baby Candon Gal from The Real Housewives Upotomac. 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: I love this woman. I think she truly, truly is 12 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: on her way of becoming one of the greatest housewives 13 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: of all time. Yeah, I said it, and I said 14 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: what I said. She is funny, she is shady, but 15 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: she also is very spiritual. Yes, she's me on dunks aside, 16 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: we get into how she prayed and manifested herself onto 17 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Potomac. Additionally, she talks about colorism 18 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: as relates to her being a dark skinned female on 19 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: the show. And last but not Lee's Baby, she throws 20 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: an entire shade tree at Giselle Green eye bandit Bryant. 21 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: It was so shady raindrops I had to gag, cut 22 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: off my phone and come back up again. Okay, without 23 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: further ado, here is my conversation with Candice deal Bassett. 24 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: I am so happy to talk to you. You know, 25 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: I am a huge fan of yours. Is that so? 26 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: I don't think I knew that I was? I Okay. 27 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: So we have a good mutual friend who you've worked 28 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: with for a very long time, who also produced me, 29 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: who is a dear, dear friend of mine, and he 30 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: would always talk about you, and he would tell me 31 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: that you really enjoyed me. But I was like, no, 32 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: he don't you have an intimidation factor because you are 33 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: You're one of a kind in this industry, and you 34 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: like you are a shady ass boot. 35 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: So I don't. I don't want to be in. 36 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Your wake with all your success being shady, making the 37 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: people do what they gotta do. Listen, you are you are, 38 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: You're You're like an urban legend, but real, I'm just saying. 39 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Okay, well, listen, I did not expect any of this, 40 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: and I'm not an emotional person, but I'm a very 41 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: spiritual person. 42 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Do you want me to fold you a tissue at 43 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: that point. 44 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: Please, buddy, it's like a paper plane that you make 45 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: back in grade school. Honey, that's not your tissues. Be 46 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: but all jokes aside. That has to be the highest 47 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: compliment anyone in this industry has ever given me. Because 48 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: now listen, listen, listen. People give me compliments. Don't get 49 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: me wrong, but in the way you articulated it, in 50 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: the sense of, you know, look, no one talks about 51 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: how I'm not gonna cry. No one talks about how 52 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I did pay the way for black producers to do 53 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: reality television and the many, many, many messages I get 54 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: from black producers. You know, I talked about in this podcast, Candice, 55 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: how I was the first black man to executive produce 56 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: a Real Housewives franchise in general, and when I decided 57 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: to step down, I replaced myself with another black man. 58 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: I said, yes, I said, I would like to leave, 59 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: and I'm going to give the reins to another black 60 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: man and to see Eric Fuller as well, who is 61 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: my mentee. Eric Fuller is one of the executive producers 62 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: of Atlanta Housewives as well as Potomac. He's the Carlos 63 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: King of Potomac. Honey, yeah. And he's super smart, super creative, 64 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: he's so sweet. I'm overwhelmed with this pleasantry because you know, look, 65 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: when it comes to me, a lot of people like 66 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: can throw me shade Carlos, you're messy, you're this, your that, 67 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: and one thing about me. I don't give two fucks 68 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: when people say about me. So when someone can honor me, 69 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: I receive it. And I wanted to talk to you 70 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: because and I meant what I said because you. I 71 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: also said earlier, like yeah, people say you like me, 72 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: and I was like, you don't like me, Like you 73 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: don't understand I am a candy girl boy, like like, 74 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: I love you. I love what you represent. In my 75 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: expert opinion, you are one of the greatest things that 76 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: happened to Potomac. 77 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: Oh, y'all, you're gonna make me. 78 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: And let's be clear. Let's be clear. Every once in 79 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: a while, a reality star hops on an existing franchise. Yes, 80 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: and she or he in this case, she comes on 81 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: the show and changes the temperature of the show. I 82 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: said this publicly and I'll say it again. Kenya Moore 83 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: and Poor Show Williams came on The Real House spots 84 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: in Atlantic season five and the show hasn't been the 85 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: same since because they changed the motherfucking temperature of that show. 86 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you came on. 87 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: Candy Gal, they those girls did not know how to 88 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: take you, and they still don't. 89 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: They still mind blowing. 90 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: You change the temperature of the show so much so 91 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: you are slowly becoming one of the premier fass of 92 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: the franchise. 93 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: God bless you. 94 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: Do you do you feel that way? 95 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: No? 96 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: No, no, I honestly, this is the honest truth. 97 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: I think I'm getting fired every year. 98 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, and it's and for me, 99 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: this opportunity, I saw it as an opportunity, something that 100 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to use for a greater purpose within my 101 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: career and within my life. 102 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: And I sat down with my who was my boyfriend 103 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: at the time. We weren't even. 104 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Engage my man, and we said, if we're going to 105 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: do this, we're going to do this, and it's going 106 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: to have purpose, and we're going to use this platform 107 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: because the platform uses you child, so use this platform 108 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: to accomplish things. And I have an album out, I 109 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: have a deluxe album coming out, I have a tour 110 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: coming out, I have a scripted series coming out. 111 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: I have a hairline I have. 112 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm starting a new business with my mom and my sister. 113 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: I have accomplished so much with the assistance of this 114 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: platform that I feel like that has been my portion. 115 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: However, you just I don't take. 116 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: For granted that it can all be gone tomorrow, and 117 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: the direction could shift for whatever reason tomorrow, and I 118 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: could be unceremoniously cast out for whatever reason. Because this 119 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: television is a fickle industry, especially unscripted, you just don't 120 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: ever know. And you know, Potomac Is is a top show, 121 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: and I recognize that, and I credit the ogs for 122 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: getting us. 123 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 3: On the map. 124 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: But I don't sit up here and be like, yeah, girl, 125 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back. 126 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: You just you never know. 127 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: I read somewhere that you prayed for this opportunity to 128 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: be a Potomac housewife, that you watched the show and 129 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, But you said something along 130 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: the lines of this show is missing me. 131 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: That sounds like me. You know, I know, I know 132 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: what I did say. 133 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: I remember watching, Yes, I did pray about it, and 134 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: I remember watching when so I'm from Georgia originally, so 135 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: when Atlanta started, I was like, oh, oh. 136 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: Let me see what these girls is about to do. 137 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: Where are they gonna be at, what they're gonna be 138 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: talking about? I was, and then it was I watched 139 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Desperate Housewives. So then when the Real Housewives of Orange 140 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: County came around, I was. 141 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: Like, Oh, what's this? 142 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: But I was kind of looking with one eye because 143 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, white lady's talking about whatever, white peoples stuff. 144 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: That's fine. 145 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: But when Atlanta started, I was like, Oh, the girls 146 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: are coming. 147 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: To town, and I was excited. 148 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: And so then when Potomac started, it was like another 149 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: we're getting another black ensemble cast on this within these franchises. 150 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Let me turn the TV on. And then because I 151 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: live in the DC, Maryland, Virginia area where the DMV 152 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: as we refer to it now, it was also a 153 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, proximity to what's happening, So let me see 154 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: what these girls are doing. Who might I know? Where 155 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: are they going? What's the tea? I remember being in 156 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the bed with Chris and the show was on, and 157 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I was like, why am I not on this show? 158 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: Because these girls ain't doing nothing that I can't do 159 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: thirty seven thousand times better and with more style and grace. Okay, 160 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: So what are we talking about. I remember saying that 161 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to Chris, and I said to Chris, I need to 162 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: be on the show because what are they doing? 163 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: And then I remember getting down on my knees at 164 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: the foot of my bed. 165 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: I had a little couch at the foot of my bed, 166 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: and asking, God, Lord, this is an opportunity for me 167 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: to accomplish all of the things that you have shown 168 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: me I'm supposed to have. Let me have it, and 169 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: I promise that I will do my best to glorify 170 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: you in all of it. And literally the following year, 171 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: I was getting an email from casting what God is like? 172 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: He said, Okay, God is really my mouth is too 173 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: powerful because I have manifested everything that I have, everything 174 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: that I have that you see and that you don't see. 175 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: I have spoken from my mouth, and it's I have 176 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: chills just talking about it because I didn't I didn't 177 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: call anyone. I didn't know anyone on the show. I 178 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: didn't know, I didn't know anything. They reached out to me. 179 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: And I believe with everything that I am that it 180 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: is from that brain. 181 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Oh listen, My entire existence in this world, you know, 182 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: material things or or not, is because of the grace 183 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: of God. And I am a faring man and every 184 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: single blessing from this podcast to my late night show 185 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: to wherever is because of God. So I believe in 186 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: the power of prayer. So when you say they reached 187 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 2: out to you and you but you had no connections 188 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: with the current cast at that time, how do they 189 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: find you? 190 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: So our casting director who has casted this show from 191 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: the very beginning, and they still do this. They are 192 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: consistently casting and you know this every season they are 193 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: looking for new blood, whether they bring someone in or 194 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: not friends of full time House, they're always looking. So 195 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: in that search, Adrian, who is our casting director, he 196 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: scours the internets. 197 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: He scours the instagrams and the facebooks of the world. 198 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: And there were degrees of separation between myself and Ashley, 199 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: myself and Katie where our orbits maybe sort of could 200 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: have overlapped, And especially I think with Ashley because of 201 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: the pageant connection. I've never asked him exactly where he 202 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: looked to find me, but he tells me that he 203 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: found me through looking on Instagram, and that's yeah. And 204 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: then my business email was connected to my instagram, my 205 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: pageant consulting firm at that time was connected to my 206 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: Instagram and they reached out to me through that email. 207 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: So you prayed for it. A year later, this casting 208 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: director contacts you. You do the interview. I interviewed plenty 209 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: of women who've been cast for Housewives. Some get a 210 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: some don't. Monique talked about how she bombed her first interview. 211 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: Ashley Silva, who I know you know from Love and 212 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: Matters DC, talked about how she did four interviews. What 213 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: was your process, Like, did you kill at your first interview? 214 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: I did. 215 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: I could say that, and I know this because well, 216 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: I've talked to Adrian about it since and. 217 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: He says that I did a great job. 218 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: But I know I did a great job because he 219 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: was like falling over laughing at me. 220 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: And I was. 221 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: Admittedly, I will say, I am a journalist and I 222 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: am a I'm a comms person, so research is my friend. 223 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: I did my research before my first interview, and I. 224 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Remember reading that Niini had a glass of wine her 225 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: first interview, and so I poured my I'm a drinker 226 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: of the Brown liquors, so I poured myself. 227 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: A glass of Jack. 228 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: Honey, which is one of my favorite at home beverages, 229 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: and I sipped on that and that it eased my 230 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: nerves a little bit and helped me to just kind 231 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: of just be uninhibited and just tell the truth about, 232 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, everything that I was being asked. 233 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: And Adrian was cracking up laughing. 234 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: So yes, I can say that I soared in my interview, 235 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: but I will say this. I will say that before 236 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: I got there, I had a phone call with one 237 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: of his associates and. 238 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: I match energy. 239 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: So she was. 240 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: Giving like dry. It was like toast with no jam, 241 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: jelly or butter. It was just dry. 242 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: And so I was like, you know, just kind of 243 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: answering questions, and then it was like five minutes and 244 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: she was like, okay, well we'll be in touch. I 245 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: was like, okay, thank you. And I just felt like 246 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: that did not go well. So I emailed her and 247 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: I was like, this didn't really go the way that 248 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to go. So here are 249 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: some bullet points. Because she didn't ask me anything about me. 250 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: It was just it was very like Vanilla. I was like, 251 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: here are some bullet points just to kind of explain 252 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: who I am. My mama crazy, my man got all 253 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: these baby mamas and kids over here, and I broke 254 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: it down in a way that I knew would make 255 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: sense and would be was palatable, and then I had my. 256 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: Skype interview. So persistence. 257 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: This is so good because I tell people all the time, 258 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: no matter what field you want to get into, I 259 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: don't care if it's entertainment, you know, hospital, teaching, engineering, whatever, 260 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: you have to study those before you in order to 261 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: be great, and you have to study the greats. My 262 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: career is where it's at because I studied Oprah, I 263 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: studied Tyler Perry, I studied all these amazing people. So 264 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: the fact that you knew that Nini Lee's had a 265 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: glass of wine her first interview is everything to me. 266 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: And that's why you are a formidable player on Potomac. 267 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: So let's fast forward to your first season. 268 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it real with you, okay, please do. 269 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: I obviously know the producers of Potomac, right, because the 270 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: production company produces a lantin Potomac and your first season, 271 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: I was like, they're hazing her, meaning you, They're hazing Candace, 272 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: and by they I mean the cast. And I also 273 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: felt like I will never forget this. It was the 274 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: scene where and FYI, I do love the entire cast. 275 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: But it was the scene where you guys were on 276 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: a bus going to a destination. 277 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: Oh god, and. 278 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: I felt like they so it was this scene where 279 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: they were like, no, you got to stand up for yourself. 280 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: You gotta read the girls. And I was like, why 281 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: are they prepping her to read the girls when I 282 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: feel like she has it? And when you read cha 283 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: cha for filth and called her jeriac chick granny and 284 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: you read Giselle's jacket and you were you were literally 285 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: like this sniper, maybe the DC sniper years ago has 286 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: nothing on that mouth. 287 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 288 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: Yes, honey, you were the Potomac sniper with the mouth 289 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: and you were targeting each girl and I was like, oh, 290 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: this bitch is everything. So your first season, did you 291 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: feel like these girls were hazing you A and B? 292 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: Did you also feel what I was feeling, like, why 293 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: are y'all trying to prep this girl to be like, well, 294 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: let me teach you how to read the girls. This 295 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: is what you say when this happens. 296 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I so there is a There is an 297 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: instance that I see all the time online where people 298 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: say Candace got to that first lunch on that trip 299 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: and was you know, reading at the table because the 300 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: girls had told her in a previous scene that she 301 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: needed to do that. 302 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: And I always furled my brow. 303 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: At that because Candace was always going to give what 304 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: needed to be given when the time came. I don't 305 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: I don't ever like to pounce before you know the 306 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: dough has risen, and that was coming regardless of what 307 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: advice I received, and I receive all all advice. Give 308 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: it to me, bring it here. I'm gonna I'm gonna 309 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: filter it and see what what I need to take 310 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: or what I need to leave. But I resent that 311 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: the general public seems to think that my trajectory on 312 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: the show was so because of what someone told me 313 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: to do. 314 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: That was that was all me. 315 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: Like this, My mouth did not start when we hit 316 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: play on Potomac. I was always on punishment for having 317 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: a smartass Mounts growing up. Okay, this is and if 318 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: you've met my mother you know why because the sharp 319 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: tongue comes from that. 320 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, at that point, I was up. 321 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: I was fed up because don't sit on this bus, 322 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: on this bumpy bus and tell me that my mama 323 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: paid for my ring girl like ten, tend to your 324 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: business and the dwindling diamonds in your ring. Okay, like 325 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: leave mine alone or lack thereof, because half of y'all 326 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: ain't half no ring nor a man to gift you one. 327 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: So I like that. That just sent me over. 328 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: I was like what and then it was a because 329 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm petite and I have like a a cheerleader energy, 330 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: as Giselle said in my first season, and I do 331 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: I own that. That's I'm a bubbly personality. I think 332 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: these girls thought that they could run me over. But 333 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: as I always say, you bring grenades to the party, 334 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: I have rocket. 335 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: Launchers and you see what I call her sniper chow. 336 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: To interrupt this juicy conversation, but stay tuned for more 337 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: of my conversation with Candace right after these quick ads. 338 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. 339 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 2: Let's get back into my conversation with Candace. When you 340 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: wrapped her first season, did you think you would come 341 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: back for a second season? No, that obviously you're The 342 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: wedding was the opening of the following season. But did 343 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: you feel like, Okay, I did a great job or 344 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: did you feel like, oh, bitch, I may not come back, 345 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: and what the fuck I didn't. 346 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: Know, and I at that point I wasn't thinking about it. 347 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: I think I was just kind of going with the 348 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: flow and being in the moment, so I didn't allow 349 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: myself to think beyond, Okay, we're shooting the show, and 350 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: now we're shooting the reunion, and now the. 351 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: Reunion is over. 352 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I thought about at that point whether 353 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: or not I was coming back. 354 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: I do feel like, because I. 355 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: Was getting married and I knew kind of how the 356 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: formula worked, if you have, you know, a burgeoning storyline, 357 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to carry that over into the following season. 358 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: I think we probably did talk about that, and I 359 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: think that there were conversations between myself and production about 360 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: what my wedding would look like if they were to 361 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: film it. So I kind of felt like I would 362 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: come back, but I didn't really question it at that time. 363 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: But I found out later that one of our s 364 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: vps said that they were not sure about me until 365 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: the read. 366 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: When I guess my what did I say? 367 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: Uh? 368 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: It was Lauren Lauren Esklin. She was like, she made 369 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 3: reference to me. 370 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: Calling Ashley a house triala because because that they weren't 371 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: they I guess they were not used to me being 372 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: that quick, because there wasn't I didn't know she was 373 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: going to say that rehearsed line about me being a 374 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: house daughter. I didn't know that was coming. And you 375 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: know you're a house Tralla. That just it just came 376 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: from from my stern up. 377 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: It just came out, not rehearse read. Okay, I caught that. No, 378 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: it's funny because I did not think you were going 379 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: to have a second season. And this is coming from me. 380 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why. I Lord Jesus, I know 381 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in trouble for this, but this podcast 382 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: is about me keeping it all the way real reality, 383 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: this reality and the first per letters is r E 384 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: A L. Yeah, booboo is real. I did not think 385 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: you were coming back because I didn't think you were 386 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: set up for success. I did not think that. And 387 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: you are the reason why I tell people you should 388 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: always give a housewife a second season, because you never know. 389 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan will always go down to history as the 390 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: most underrated housewife because she deserves the second season. 391 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 392 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So your second season on the show really showed 393 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: why you are a formidable player. So much so you 394 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: literally get into with everybody, and you hold your own 395 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: and to be a petite woman what I love about you. 396 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: And I know you read upon Meini Leagues drinking wine 397 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: and that's what made you want to like, Okay, prepare 398 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: for this interview you have with the casting director. You 399 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: are on your way to becoming an icon like Kenya Moore. 400 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: And hear me out, hear me out. I receive pageant background, beautiful, 401 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: chocolate girl, a wordsmith, intelligent and me working with Kenya, 402 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: I always knew that the issues that Kenya had with 403 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: some of the women. I'm not gonna name names, but 404 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: some of them was Kenya, you're not only beautiful, but bitch, 405 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: you're smart and you know how to read. And when 406 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: you read. When Kenya Moore season seven, at this group 407 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: event where they had the doctor there, the therapist his 408 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: name is slip in my brain and she said, you 409 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: are a revisionist historian me and the producer said, what 410 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: the what fuck does that mean? And I literally google 411 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: that and I said, this bitch is so smart, and 412 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: all the other housewives was like dumbfounded, like wait, is 413 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 2: is that a read? You remind me so much of Kenya? 414 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: And one thing that you are vocal about on Twitter. 415 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: Is you feel that because you and Kenya are dark 416 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: skinned women. Yes, people love to villainize the two of you. 417 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: When y'all light skin counterparts can say the same thing, 418 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: worse or worse, they don't get the same treatment. And 419 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: you really do say that a lot on Twitter. Can 420 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: you talk to me about that, please. 421 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: Yes. 422 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 1: I have not experienced colorism in the way that I 423 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: have on this platform anywhere else in my life. 424 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: And I grew up in predominantly white spaces. I have 425 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: been the. 426 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Token black girl in a lot of rooms. And even 427 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: in those spaces, you know, you get the uh oh, 428 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: you're pretty to be a black girl, you get that. 429 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: But the colorism is nuanced, and it's often felt within 430 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: your own cohort, within your own community. And I guess 431 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: because I didn't have much of a community that looked 432 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: like me growing up, that wasn't something that I was 433 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: ever aware of or really made privy to until later 434 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: in life. And then even then, it still was just 435 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: never on my radar until this show. And you know, 436 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: I am doing my job and cussing and fussing and 437 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: carrying on in a way that is similar to I'll 438 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: use Ashley as an example, because we're similar in age. 439 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: They kind of put she brought me onto the show 440 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: expecting I think that we would, you know, have have 441 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: a report. And you know, Ashley is one who can 442 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: she can get bucks, she can roll her neck, she 443 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: her eyes can pop out of her head. She she'll 444 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, she gives you what needs to be given 445 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: in the moment. And I started to notice, knowing that 446 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: Ashley had given us those moments, those aggressive moments, that 447 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: my time in giving those same moments were harped on 448 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: much more intensely. And I really had to take a 449 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: step back and say, what is it? Because at first 450 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: you just say what, like you're just you're just kind 451 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: of dumbfounded, but you're saying that I'm aggressive. But we 452 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: just watched her like get in her somebody's face and 453 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: do the finger and roll her neck and do all that. 454 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: So it just dumbfounded me at first, but it was 455 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: It took me having conversations with my real smart friends, 456 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: my off TV friends, to realize is what I was 457 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: experiencing was colorism, and it really there was a conversation 458 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: that we had, I believe, on a reunion where we 459 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: were asked by Andy, I think if we think the 460 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: colorism exists on the show, and most of the women 461 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: said no, And I will say that I don't know 462 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: that the cast is necessarily engaging in it. Maybe there 463 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: is some dog whistling, but it certainly comes from the audience, 464 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: and I think that the beneficiaries of colorism have a 465 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: responsibility to call that out. And I don't see that 466 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: happening myself. Wendy, you know we can't. We can scream 467 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: it all day, you know, it's it's it literally. 468 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: Is attached to racism. 469 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: The oppressed cannot we can't speak out. We can, but 470 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: the liberation and the change and the overturning comes when 471 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: the people that have the power are speaking out against it. 472 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: And to deny that colorism exists is doing a disservice 473 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: to all of us. 474 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: No, and listen. One of the examples that I'll give 475 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: too is, you know one thing that Ashley and you 476 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: do is y'all can read for filth. And I am 477 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: a fan of the both of y'alls right, because I 478 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: think you guys are just fantastic reality stars and just 479 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: know how to like give great scenes. So, for example, 480 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: you called Ashley wide body and got read for that. Meanwhile, 481 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: Ashley may fun of Sherie saggy titties but did not 482 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: get much of a scorn reading for that. I know 483 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: for a fact that colorism exists in the scope of 484 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: reality television, in the scope of the world, in the 485 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: scope of the music industry. It is what it is, 486 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: and it doesn't take me, not being a black woman, 487 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: to not see it. I see it, see it based 488 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: on Twitter, and I think that's the reason why a 489 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: lot of people stay off of Twitter who are on 490 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: reality TV, because it can definitely affect your mental help, 491 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: knowing that people are really not equal in their disdain 492 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: for a person, place, or thing. And one of the 493 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: things that I know you dealt with with your mental 494 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: health was the unfortunate altercation that you and Monique had 495 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: on the show. And as a black man in this business, 496 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: and I shared this with Monique as well, I was 497 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: devastated by that only because look, I know that unfortunately 498 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: things just happen like these things happen, and that's just 499 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: the way of life. We saw Will Smith slap Chris 500 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 2: Rock on America's Favorite award stage and shit happens. Well, 501 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: what I thought was funny was Will Packer, who's a 502 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: friend of mine and who I love. He produced that 503 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: Oscar special. No one blamed Will Packer, and they shouldn't 504 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: have because he had nothing to do with it. But 505 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: when black people are having a bad moment on reality TV, 506 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: they blame Carlos King, or they blame the other producers. 507 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I loved about your 508 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: conversation that you had on camera and off camera was 509 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: the fact that everybody saw the error in their ways right, 510 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: and I thought it was so special to at least 511 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: have that honest conversation. How were you able to get 512 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: past that? Because I know that for some people it 513 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: would have been hard to return to the show. 514 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that I am past it because of 515 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: the backlash that I received due to the acrobatics that 516 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: were orchestrated by some There are still people who I mean, 517 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: the obviously are strong opinions about that season, But to 518 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: quote the ancient African proverb, revisionist history is a motherfucker. 519 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: It's so easy to sit. 520 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: Back and watch and decide that you know what happened 521 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: in any space. 522 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: And that's what reality television is for. 523 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: It's an escape, and that's what I understand that my 524 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: role is in this space for a lot of our viewers. 525 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: But when the game is not played by the rules, 526 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: and people who can't control their emotions want to get 527 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: out of control and change the way the game is played, 528 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: it becomes less about entertainment and more about this is 529 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: my real life. 530 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: And I. 531 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Still have a lot of thoughts and feelings about the 532 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: revisionist history. I obviously don't let it, you know, overtake me, 533 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: and I think that God has prepared the most immaculate 534 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: table for me. 535 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: Before all of my enemies. Therefore, I have no need 536 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: to harp on whatever. 537 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: However, it's not something that you just that just goes away. 538 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: One of our SVPs who's a dear friend of mine, 539 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: her name is Lorraine. She said in Not All Diamonds 540 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: and Rose that I forget how she said it, but 541 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: she she I talked to her at length for hours 542 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: upon hours during that whole season five, and she she 543 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: sort of accurately emoded for me when she said something 544 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: to the effect of I think Candice was blindsided and 545 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 1: she was really hurt by the chain of events because 546 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: it's not something that she ever expected to happen, and 547 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: she really thought that she was dealing with someone who 548 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: she thought was her friend, and for her to put 549 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: that into words that it was just shock. Not so 550 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: and I talk about this on Girl's Trip too. Not 551 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: so much the physical part that wasn't the shock. The 552 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: shock was the spinning and the lying and the revisionist 553 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: history that still reverberates amongst people who are just committed 554 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 1: to misunderstanding me versus looking at facts and actually going 555 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: back and reviewing the edited season. 556 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's an evolution that is still evolving. 557 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: Knowing that this happened a couple of years ago and 558 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: Monique is no longer on the show. Is there a 559 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: world knowing that you're spiritual and like me, you're God 560 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: fearing and we love the Bible God talks about forgiveness. 561 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: Is there a world where you're able to forgive Monique 562 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: and or be friends with her again. 563 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: I think I have forgiven her for me, because that's 564 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: my salvation, that's at stake. 565 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 3: I have forgiven her for me. I think it's. 566 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: Impossible to move into a space of friendship with a 567 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: human being who continues to live in delusion and in 568 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: their version, in their revisionist history. This is someone who 569 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: has still goes into public spaces and calls me a child, 570 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: when the child is the person who can't just let 571 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: it be, give it a no comment or you know, 572 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: when these conversations come up, when these questions come up, 573 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: it's about me. I'm not interested in insulting or creating 574 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: un necessary contention with a non factor in my life. 575 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: And again, there's too much increase in my life for 576 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: me to go to that negative space. So you know, 577 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: the short answer is no, it just you. You can't. 578 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: You can't rekindle something with someone who who isn't there. 579 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: And I also just it's that's just not my portion. 580 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't need I don't need friends like that. 581 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: No, that's understandable. And you know, look, one thing we're 582 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: here to celebrate is the new season of Potomac. I 583 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: have set on record, and people like to throw me 584 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: shade for saying this because they think in order for 585 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: me to compliment somebody, I have to diss them in 586 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: the same sentence. Like a lot of people, I'm just 587 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: gonna say it. A lot of people are surprised that 588 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm a huge Candice fan because I'm a Monique fan, 589 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: and Monique's on my show. You know what I mean? 590 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: Like I always tell people like, I am a black 591 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: man in this space, and I truly love everybody, and 592 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 2: people's beefs are not my beef. I'm not a female rapper. 593 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get a do you know what I mean? Like, 594 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not picking size in terms of 595 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: what people go through. Like, I love everybody, I love you. 596 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: I love Potomac. Potomac right Now is my favorite franchise. 597 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: Potomac right Now is the number one most entertaining Housewives 598 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: franchise in the world, and it has been for a 599 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 2: couple of years. I love this show so much. The 600 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 2: trailer came out and it's explosive and I'm looking forward 601 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: to it winning debut Sunday, October ninth, at eight o'clock 602 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: seven Central. In the trailer, we saw some issues going 603 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 2: on between Chris Bassett and Giselle Green Eye Bandit Bryant, 604 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 2: where there's these accusations, if you will, that Chris has 605 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: been flirting with Gazelle. So I want to ask you, 606 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: this is your husband Chris attracted to Gazel. 607 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: I you would have to ask him back, but I 608 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: mean I would say no, I know we did. We 609 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: had an event at Karen's house two years ago. It 610 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: was a couple's like date day, and one of the 611 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: questions was if. 612 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: You if you had to. 613 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: If you had to sleep with somebody else in this 614 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: group or something, if you were if you had to 615 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: date someone else in this group, something like that, who 616 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: would it be? And everyone answered except for Eddie because 617 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Wendy was given him the eyes period, right, And you know, 618 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: for me, Chris said Gazelle. And I also guessed Gazelle 619 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: only because like the Gazelle is very flirty with Chris, 620 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: and Chris flirts back with Gazelle. And this happens in 621 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: front of me, and it has never given me pause 622 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: or made me feel threatened in any kind of way 623 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: because Chris does not want Gizelle's fifty year old puss. 624 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: He has no why would he want that when he 625 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: has this so and it also just kind of gave me, Okay, 626 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: this is excess flirtatious energy coming from a woman who 627 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: doesn't have that at home. 628 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 3: This is just something that she does. 629 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: Gazelle has a history and there's a reputation there of 630 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: her being fast in her past and her being loose 631 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: in her past. 632 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: This is these are facts. I'm not making this up. 633 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 3: So you know, I see her flirting with Chris and 634 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 3: is like, oh, pole than just poth thing, that's cute. 635 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 3: It never bothered me. 636 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 2: You said old thing, a poke thing po. 637 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 3: Po th that's it's it's just you. You can't. 638 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: You can't ask for for more from from someone who 639 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: can only give you less than half like I can't. 640 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: It never bothered me. So he may be she's a 641 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: beautiful woman I'm attracted to. 642 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 3: She's a beautiful attracted. 643 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. 644 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: Listen, she's beautiful. 645 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: But a shell is a shell, okay, and shells often 646 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: have funky insides, and that's one. 647 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 2: Not fuck master flex. Okay, look what thing I can't 648 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 2: with you? What's interesting, though, is after you wrapped Potomac, 649 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: you then went on Ultimate Girls Trip, y'all went to Thailand, 650 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: and based on the cast, it seemed like it was 651 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: buddies from e franchise. Salt Lake City had Heather and Whitney, 652 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: Miami had Marathol on Instagram okay, and then it had 653 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: Gazelle and Candice and we were all confused by that. 654 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 2: So how was it on Ultimus Girls Trip? Because the 655 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: second installment was amazing. Derenda's house. It was it was 656 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 2: funny and dramatic, and it was everything. Did y'all live 657 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 2: up to the hype based on the fact that you 658 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 2: had to be with Jazelle for a couple, you know, 659 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 2: for two weeks? 660 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 3: I think yes. 661 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: Ten days of just unadulterated hell is what ensued in Thailand. 662 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: I was ready to go. These girls, just the the 663 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: girls as a whole wore me out. I was worn 664 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: thin just talking to no I'm I don't talk when 665 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: when I don't need to talk, like when it's if 666 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to say that it's of substance. 667 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm just going to sit back and clutch my pearls 668 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: and observe these girls. Some of them they just like 669 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: it was just I don't know if it was like 670 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: a we fighting for a camera time or you know, 671 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: this is an accelerated version of housewives. We have ten 672 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: days to get what we need, so we're just we're 673 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: going hard in the paint. I don't know, but there 674 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: was so much talking that I just don't know that 675 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: needed to happen. I was surprised that Giselle and I 676 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: were chosen. 677 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: I was surprised that. 678 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: I always thought that when it was Potomac's turn to 679 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: do girl Strip, it would be Gizelle and Karen because 680 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: that's who the network pushes as the faces of the 681 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: of the show. 682 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the that's that's what they pushed. 683 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: So I was fully expecting Gazelle and Karen. So it 684 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: was me and I was like, well, sure, I will 685 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: pack my bags. I'm there, Gizelle and I I'll just 686 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: say it did not end well. 687 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 3: It did not end well. 688 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: And yeah and yeah, didn't end well. 689 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: M hm, Okay, Well, how did it begin with Porsche? 690 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: Because you and Porsche have publicly said things about each 691 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: other that a lot of people took its shade. Yes, 692 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: when they found out Porsche, Williams and Candace was in 693 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: the same room, the Twitter girls went crazy. Yeah, how 694 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: did it go with Porsche? 695 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: You be surprised? And that in good ways and bad ways. 696 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: It was a very interesting time with Porsche that I 697 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: don't want to give it anything away, but it was. 698 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: It was an interesting time with with Porscha. She is 699 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: something else, but so am I. 700 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 2: Oh, we know you are sister, because I was gonna 701 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 2: say that. That goes my question Porsche is a shady 702 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: queen and we love Porsche. You are shady queen. Answered 703 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 2: this for me. Oh lord, who did you get into 704 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 2: it the most on girls trip besides Giselle? 705 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: Oh I really, I was really chilling on this trip 706 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: because these white girls were hollering the whole trip, So 707 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 4: I was just I was kind of like it, taking 708 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 4: my my leizipam and trying. 709 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 3: To just stay home. 710 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: But I okay, if I had to say, who did 711 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: I fuss with more than Gizelle, it was Okay, it 712 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: wasn't the snow bunnies, it wasn't It wasn't. 713 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 3: Probably Portia. 714 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we if I had to say more than Jesel, 715 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: Giselle was. 716 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: The most. But yes, probably if I had to say, 717 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 3: but that. 718 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: But again, I say it was an interesting time because. 719 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 3: It ebbed and flowed. 720 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: There was a lot that went on like it was 721 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: ten days, but it felt like ten months. There was 722 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot of evolution and stopping and going and fussing 723 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: and carrying on that took place. So yes, yeah, I'm 724 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: trying to make sure I'm not missing anyone. 725 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 2: I don't think you are, because that I think that's 726 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: I don't see you get into with the other girls 727 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 2: like that, what about Leah? 728 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: That Leah is my bitch, That is my girl. That's Leah. 729 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: So Leah and the snow bunnies they were my favorite, Like. 730 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: I can't take snow bunnies. 731 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 3: That's what I call. 732 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: And then we played a really fun game where everybody 733 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: got like I don't want to give away too much, 734 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: but we played a really fun game where I really 735 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: got to express my thoughts on everybody and some people 736 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: were happy and some were not, and I was tickled. 737 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 3: That's all I will say about that. 738 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 2: Love it, Okay, So before I let you go talk 739 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: to my raindrops about what they can't expect from this 740 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: season of Potomac and Baby, I mean one thing about me, 741 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 2: and I don't care how far getting in life in 742 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: my career, I will always be a fan because you 743 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 2: always want to keep that inno sense about you. I 744 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 2: am a giddy girl when it comes to Potomac. I 745 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 2: watch it and I laughed my ass off, and I 746 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 2: literally love all of you, ladies. I got a chance 747 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 2: to meet some of the girls when I was in 748 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 2: town at this house and Kandace wasn't there, and Wendy 749 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: wasn't there, and I was mad like, I low key 750 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: also want to see Kansas and Wendy the Fox, but 751 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 2: whenever I digress, we'll see each other pace of pays 752 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 2: so soon. Yes, yes, but talk to us about what 753 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: we can expect from my favorite Housewise franchise. 754 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: This season, for a lot of reasons, I think is 755 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: maybe one of our best. And I know it's easy 756 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: to say that, but this is probably one of our 757 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: best seasons because everyone gave something. And I also love 758 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: when a season gets to the end and nothing. 759 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 3: Has been spilled. 760 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: Atlanta is kind of has gotten really bad about that, 761 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: like stuff leaking, and you're finding out storylines and things 762 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: that are happening amongst the group before the season airs, 763 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: and it just ruins the experience for the viewers. 764 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 3: Not a whole lot. 765 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: Got out about this, you know, the little altercation between 766 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: me and Wendy kind of got out. Side note, I 767 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: was from shooting my scripted series, so I got to 768 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: the trip late. I'm mid air and I'm getting texts 769 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: from my manager telling me, were you in a fight? 770 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like what these people will sat. 771 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 3: Up here on Beyonce's Internet and trying to. 772 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: Say that I got into the fight with Mia, that 773 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: it was me and I'm literally in the air, so 774 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: that that got out. 775 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 3: But you don't know what happened. 776 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: Let me, let me make it clear, you don't know 777 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: what happened even with what you see in the trailer. 778 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 3: You need to see the whole thing. 779 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: But we I think everyone gave something personal within the group. 780 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 3: The dynamics shift so quickly. 781 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: This is I think this is the fastest we have 782 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: moved in this group, just like the ebbs and flows 783 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: within the couples and the throttles, and you know, the 784 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: six seven of us are our friend of the show, 785 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: Jacqueline that then came in there and. 786 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 3: Hould our wigs off. She was doing three much. 787 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 2: It was so intense, not too much, but three much, 788 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 2: three much. 789 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 3: It was so intense. 790 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: So it's you are going to be entertained because you're 791 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: not going. 792 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 3: To be able to keep up. 793 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: You you have to really stay on your toes and 794 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: take notes for season seven. Not to shade other franchises, 795 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: but sometimes things can drag on and carry on and 796 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: you just never hear the end of the things. Honey. 797 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: Season seven, it's like boom boom, boom boom, what's next. 798 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: We're friends now, We're not we're cool. Now we're not, 799 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: we're you know, cussing, and now we're in the bed together. 800 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: It's like it's it is so fast paced even I 801 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: can keep up. 802 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 3: And I was in the mess. 803 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 2: No, I loved I love it. I love it. And 804 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 2: I have to ask this. Though you ladies were the 805 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 2: dark horse, You ladies, to me, were the step children 806 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 2: of the franchise. Do you, ladies, And I'm being serious 807 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: when I ask you this question because I want reality 808 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: stars too. Are fans of this podcast to hear this? 809 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: Please hear this. When I watch Potomac, I feel like 810 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 2: all of you ladies said we need to be the 811 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 2: best show possible, and we're going to work together to 812 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,919 Speaker 2: be number one. Not scripting stuff or having fake beef, 813 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: but like we're all going to put in the work. 814 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: The kids like to call it clocked in. Like I 815 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 2: feel like you ladies had a meeting and said we 816 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: need to clock in and be number one because every 817 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 2: season is so damn good. 818 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 819 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 2: Did you guys have this camaraderie and this sort of 820 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 2: pact that we are going to give everything to this 821 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: show to become number one? 822 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 3: I think it's unspoken. I have never been a part of. 823 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: A group, a full group meeting where we had those conversations, 824 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: but I've had them in twos and threes with some 825 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 1: of the girls just about you know, how we really 826 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: care and we are very aware and privy. 827 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 3: Of what our role is and how. 828 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: We sort of carry the torch for black women in 829 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: this space, and we all take that very seriously. And 830 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I respect about my 831 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: cast so much is that we protect our brands, we 832 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: protect the way that we are portrayed, and we take 833 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: that very seriously, you know, give or take a few 834 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 1: that may not be here anymore. So it's I think 835 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: we all are intelligent enough to know when it's time 836 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: to clock in and when maybe we need to sit 837 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: back and allow, you know, others to step in. That's 838 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: that was one difference between my cast and Girl Strip. 839 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 3: I'm used to being in a group where we allow. 840 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: Each other to speak because we're thinking about the audio 841 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: guy and how they're gonna have to turn this one 842 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: down so. 843 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 3: That you can hear this one talk. 844 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: So we are very aware of Okay, let's let you know, 845 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: Robin have this. 846 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 3: Moment to explain what she's saying, and then. 847 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: Karen will jump in and cuss her into smithereens She's 848 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna let Robin say what she has to say, because 849 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: you all need to understand what we're saying, to follow 850 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: our stories and to care about you know, what we're 851 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: bringing you and girls today was just yelling and screaming. 852 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,760 Speaker 1: It was my wig slit off and I had brains, 853 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: So you know, I just I think that we are 854 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: all incredibly intelligent, savvy, smart women and we know how 855 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: to maneuver. 856 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 3: And it's there are a lot of. 857 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: Just unspoken things that just fall all into place in 858 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,359 Speaker 1: the heat of moments and it just works. We are 859 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: because we all have leadership spirit like we all we 860 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: all have that leadership capacity, so everybody knows how to 861 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: police themselves and I think that contributes heavily to our success. 862 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 3: And I always give flowers to the ogs. 863 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: This I want to say, this is Is this not 864 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: the most ogs at this point in a s Yeah, 865 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: that that's that's not a small feat. 866 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 2: The Real Housewives hopotomac has the is making history in 867 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 2: terms of having the most OG's return for a consecutive 868 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: seventh season, which is Giselle, Robin, Ashley, and Karen. That 869 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 2: has never been done in the history of the franchise. 870 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 2: And that's why you guys are great, and that's no 871 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 2: shame to do the Housewives franchise. We love them all. 872 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 2: And one thing I love about you particularly you always 873 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: give a land to their flowers and all day, every ing. 874 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will continue to say it because I 875 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 1: same lo the comparisons. We are not the same, and 876 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing, and we would not be if 877 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: it were not for the. 878 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 3: Path that they laid. The tweet. 879 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: I see it all the time. Atlanta walp So Potomac 880 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: could run. I will say it until I have no breath. 881 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: I was a studier and a watcher and someone who 882 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: just respected immensely what this ensemble cast of powerful, entertaining 883 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,479 Speaker 1: as hell black women were able to do for reality TV. 884 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: Bravo would not be where Bravo is without Atlanta. 885 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 2: Carlos King would not be the king of reality television 886 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 2: with Atlanta. And I will always give a Lanta to 887 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 2: their flowers. And look, I know a lot of people 888 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 2: are just shaded Atlanta about not being at its best, 889 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 2: and listen, I'm very honest about my feelings about the 890 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: way the show has been the past couple of seasons, 891 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 2: but make no mistake, it will always be the greatest 892 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 2: reality show of all time. And because of Atlanta Housewives, 893 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 2: all of us get to eat at the table in 894 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 2: which they prepared. So let's make that very clear. So 895 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 2: thank you can this for saying that I can talk 896 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 2: to you all day. I'm gonna I know I'm gonna 897 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,479 Speaker 2: see you soon though, so we'll be good. But yeah, 898 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 2: let the girls know where they can follow you, support 899 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 2: your burgeoning music career and everything else. 900 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: Yes, I am going on tour starting October nineteenth. There 901 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 1: are still tickets available, I think in every city. DC 902 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: is almost sold out, Chicago's almost sold out. 903 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 3: So I'm doing. 904 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: DC, Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, and Philly. So you can get 905 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: your tickets on citywinery dot com for my tour. I 906 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: just had a series of rehearsals last week or in 907 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: the last two days. This tour is going to be amazing. 908 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 1: My band is the Bomb. I have a full band, 909 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: So we're giving you music, We're giving you vibes, We're 910 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 1: giving you choreography. 911 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 3: I have dancers, we have. 912 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: Smoke, we have diva fans, honey, we have costume changes, we. 913 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 3: Have wigs, So get it. And vocals. The most important 914 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 3: thing we have vocals. 915 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: The mic is on, Mike will be on. 916 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: I promise you that. So get your tickets, uh to 917 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: the city Winery tour. We get on our bus going 918 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: across the country. Honey, it's gonna it'snna be a time 919 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 1: to check that out. 920 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 2: I know you lie. Was this good? The dad? Y oh? No? Come, 921 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 2: don't play with it. I am y'all, don't get I'm 922 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 2: a fan. I did a video, but I never even 923 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 2: met this girl. And when your first single came out, 924 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 2: I see you. Yes, I did a video on Instagram 925 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 2: in my drop top ports period and was like singing, 926 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: I love for music. 927 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 3: Remember that. 928 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this is real. Like I am a 929 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 2: candy girl fan. I love you. Thank you for blessing 930 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 2: this podcast, and I. 931 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 3: Will see you soon, very soon, Darling. 932 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 2: I literally can talk to Candace all day long. I 933 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 2: have to like stop myself from interviewing her because we 934 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 2: would have had a week's worth interview. She is so fun, 935 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 2: so spicy and all jump aside. I really hope all 936 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,959 Speaker 2: of you got a chance to learn a little bit 937 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 2: more about Candace, because I don't think she's treated fairly 938 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 2: on social media. I just don't. I think she gets 939 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 2: a bad hand and a bad rap, and I'm hoping 940 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 2: that listening to her talk about her life, her career, 941 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: and just her spirituality open up your eyes to see 942 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: why I really do think she truly is going to 943 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 2: be one of the greatest housewives of all time. Candace 944 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 2: my Life, you are on your way. Thank you for 945 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 2: listening to Reality with the King. New episodes drop every 946 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: Wednesday and Friday, Share, comment, follow, and subscribe to Reality 947 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 2: with the King. 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