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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday into

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Speaker 2: Sunday air towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: That is right.

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Speaker 2: We are on until two a m. Eastern time. As

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Speaker 2: de Sager just told you, we are in the final

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Speaker 2: minutes of two thrillers in college football. Ohio State in

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Speaker 2: the red zone, three minutes to go. As Martin Weiz

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Speaker 2: just told you as he wrapped his show, Ohio State

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Speaker 2: trailing the Indiana Hoosiers by three. A field goal ties it.

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Speaker 2: A touchdown gives Ohio State the lead with under three

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Speaker 2: minutes to go, and in the ACC the result that

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Speaker 2: nobody wants Duke up seventeen to ten in the ACC

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Speaker 2: Championship game. The possibility exists that if Duke wins the ACC,

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Speaker 2: the ACC might not have their champion in the College

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Speaker 2: Football playoff and possibly not have anybody at all speaking

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Speaker 2: of the ACC. We may have Mario Christobau on the

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Speaker 2: show later this evening, but Jason Martin until then, we

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Speaker 2: got a lot of college football to keep us busy

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Speaker 2: until two am Eastern. How are you tonight, my men?

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Speaker 3: I am great and exhausted mentally by all of this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a great thing for us. It's

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Speaker 3: a great place to be right now with these games

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Speaker 3: going on, and certainly with the results from earlier today,

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Speaker 3: but just trying to parse through what's going to happen tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if three hours is enough quite frankly,

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Speaker 3: Plus we have the NFL and all sorts of other

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Speaker 3: things going on. But man, this college football situation got

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Speaker 3: interesting real quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it got interesting really quickly. And you know it's

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Speaker 2: funny because you and I went through this late on

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Speaker 2: our show last week after all of the big rivalry

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Speaker 2: games were done. By the way, Ohio State lining up

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Speaker 2: for a game time field goal and they missed a

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Speaker 2: field goal in the red zone. They have missed a

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Speaker 2: field goal. We're just gonna go through teams nine through twelve,

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Speaker 2: but we gotta start with one versus two in Indy.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State trailing thirteen to ten with around three minutes

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Speaker 2: the ball back with two forty eight left. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: We're doing our best to keep you updated in real

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Speaker 2: time here. I don't know how many timeouts Ohio State has,

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Speaker 2: but they obviously do have the two minute timeout coming up.

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Speaker 2: So boy, oh boy, oh boy, do we have a

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Speaker 2: thriller in Indy Jmark before we do talk about teams

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Speaker 2: nine through twelve. Any thoughts on what we're seeing in

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis right now? As Indiana gets the ball back trying

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Speaker 2: to ice a Big Ten championship.

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Speaker 3: Anybody that didn't believe in Indiana sh quiet.

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Speaker 2: But are two of the best team contract is fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: What do we do about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we applaud Indiana for doing the right thing. Look,

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Speaker 3: these are two of the best teams in the country.

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Speaker 3: This has just been a war of a football game.

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Speaker 3: You've seen two quarterbacks that are very very good have

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Speaker 3: to navigate incredible defenses. I've been I'm so impressed with

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Speaker 3: Mendoza's deep ball, just the way he uncorks that thing

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Speaker 3: near sacks in this game. But these two teams and Georgia,

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Speaker 3: to me, you're on a completely different plane than everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Like watching Indiana in this game, they're legit. Even if

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Speaker 3: no good is Oregon, and you can't say that now.

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Speaker 3: The way that they have been the physical match of

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Speaker 3: all you need to know about what this Indiana team is. Well,

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Speaker 3: with all due respect to the crew that they had

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Speaker 3: team that's capable of winning at all. I'm not suggesting

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Speaker 3: on a neutral field. I don't think that there's anybody

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Speaker 2: Right now, yeah, so really quick. Not only is Indiana

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Speaker 2: Neither team is running the ball well because both defenses

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Speaker 3: Your point, by the way, on saying yeah, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: something he's done a lot this year. Mendoza has won

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Speaker 3: this game too, but say it only has six incompletions

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Speaker 3: and Mendoza's got eight, So between the two of them,

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Speaker 3: this game, like, this is a very high quality game

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Speaker 3: despite being thirteen to ten. That's just a credit to

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Speaker 3: this is just one of those games where you just

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Speaker 3: it shows again what new college football looks like. My

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Speaker 2: Learns signetty, baby.

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Speaker 3: It is a different I said, you get the right

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Speaker 3: can do something real quick in this sport. Well, that's

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you really quick. We have to focus on

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Speaker 2: the games. But that was kind of one of my

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Speaker 2: big takeaways from this week with all of the coaching changes,

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Speaker 2: basically said nah, I'm good where I'm at. Indiana's coach

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Speaker 2: college football playoff, I think having the right coach more

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Speaker 2: on that game. By the way, I stand correct at

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Speaker 2: Ohio State had all three timeouts, they have used the

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Speaker 2: first one. But speaking of BYU and an interesting week there,

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Speaker 2: they are part of this very interesting group of four

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Speaker 2: that has just become it has become the talking point.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny, j Mark, because I remember, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we've had this conversation two or three times

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Speaker 2: you know, I wondered, as we got into this twelve

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Speaker 2: NCAA tournament because the previous four team iteration, it was

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Speaker 2: everybody knows Notre Dame in Miami have played head to

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because Alabama, you and I went

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Speaker 2: that frankly really wasn't that competitive. And I bring it

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Speaker 2: on that group of four. Alabama not only losing but

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a mess. It's weird that Alabama jumped

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Speaker 3: The third loss doesn't affect it. The problem is this

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Speaker 3: He said, here's the problem. This is the same way

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Speaker 3: a better team this time much. I think That's a

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Speaker 3: at them, so they have their three losses. Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: conference championship games in emphatic fashion to top five teams.

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Speaker 3: BYU has two ranked wins on the season, so does Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Alabama beat number three Georgia, a number fourteen Vanderbilt. BYU

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Speaker 2: We are seconds away. I don't know you could call

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet because I'm always on delay.

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Speaker 2: Have an upset in Indianapolis. Kurtz Signetti walking to midfield

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Speaker 2: The story here besides the shaker itself. Ohio State did

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Speaker 2: The Indiana Hoosiers have won the Big Ten. The Indiana

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Speaker 3: Fernando Man, don't give him, don't give him many money,

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Speaker 2: And again I don't want to oversell the story, because

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Speaker 7: to ten and you see this just knockdown, drag out

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Speaker 7: fight between these two teams.

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Speaker 3: I feel like a large quantity of people that watched

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Speaker 3: that game tonight came away with a with eyes just

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Speaker 3: just huge, Like biggest saucers watching Indiana say, I heard

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Speaker 3: they were good. I didn't realize they were that good.

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Speaker 3: They were national champion good in this game, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. The bracket comes out eleven am

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Speaker 2: eleven AM Central noon Eastern. And you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: think any of us, I don't know, I can't speak

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Speaker 2: for you. I don't feel comfortable saying anything is definitive,

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Speaker 2: anything is definitive without seeing the bracket. But again, Indiana, like,

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Speaker 2: we want to celebrate the story, but they are now

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Speaker 2: more than a great story. They are an incredible team.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jabart, why don't we come back and

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Speaker 2: let's really dive deep into that nine through twelve spot.

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Speaker 2: We are hoping to get Mario Cristaball. We are efforting

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Speaker 2: Mario Cristaball. We'll see if we can get him before

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Speaker 2: the end of the show, but we'll talk about his

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Speaker 2: team as well as BYU Notre Dame, and of course

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Speaker 2: Alabama will do that in just one moment. Before we

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Speaker 2: do that, let's get it over the news desk.

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Speaker 8: My man de Segur, Aaron, there is no over selling

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Speaker 8: this story.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not that we're I love the story,

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Speaker 2: but they're no longer just an underdog. They're like, they're

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Speaker 2: no number one team in the country. They're all high

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Speaker 2: states equal.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Saperirianna is number one in the country as of tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: That will be football. Yes, football.

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Speaker 8: Let's listen say that the Indiana Hoosiers who have not

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Speaker 8: won an outright conference title in football since nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 8: Just did so in Indianapolis tonight, beating number one and

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Speaker 8: previously undefeated Ohio State thirteen to ten. How about what

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Speaker 8: they had done head to head these two programs, including.

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Speaker 3: In recent years.

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Speaker 8: Oh Boy, Indiana had not beaten Ohio State in their

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Speaker 8: last thirty matchups in a row since a tie game

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Speaker 8: in nineteen ninety. Last year, Indiana lost at Ohio State

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Speaker 8: thirty eight fifteen, the year before twenty three to three,

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Speaker 8: the year before fifty six fourteen, the year before fifty

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Speaker 8: four to seven, et cetera. Indiana is thirteen to zer

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Speaker 8: and the number one team in all of college football.

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Speaker 8: Ohio State had two great chances to at minimum tie

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Speaker 8: the game in the second half, and by the Buckeye

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Speaker 8: By the way, the Buckeyes were trailing in the second

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Speaker 8: half for the first time since the Michigan game a

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Speaker 8: year ago, which they lost thirteen to ten. Ohio State

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Speaker 8: late in the third quarter went for it on fourth

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Speaker 8: and one at the Indiana five and did not make

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Speaker 8: it after video review. Sayan's knee was down on their

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Speaker 8: next drive, a fifteen play drive nearly eight minutes worth

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Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter over eighty yards, they settle for

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Speaker 8: the short field goal attempt to tie, and the twenty

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Speaker 8: seven yard attempt is wide left. Indiana wins thirteen to

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Speaker 8: ten over leases.

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Speaker 3: We're out to I watched that on a replay.

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Speaker 8: Just amazing. What has gone on tonight and for these

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Speaker 8: two years with Kurt Signetti running the Indiana program. It's

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Speaker 8: just what are we seeing here? So the top four

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Speaker 8: this week in college football, we assume will be the

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Speaker 8: four that get the first round by in this month's playoff,

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Speaker 8: with Indiana number one, and we'll see where Ohio State

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Speaker 8: is at twelve and one, Georgia's twelve and one. Texas

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Speaker 8: Tech is twelve and one. Texas Tech blitz BYU for

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Speaker 8: a second time in about a month, winning the Big

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Speaker 8: twelve Championship thirty four to seven. Georgia, ranked third this week,

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Speaker 8: won twenty eight to seven over Alabama to take the

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Speaker 8: SEC crowd. Georgia led twenty one to nothing early in

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Speaker 8: the third quarter. Meanwhile, we've got another game still going on,

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Speaker 8: just over a minute to play in Charlotte in the

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Speaker 8: ACC Championship. Duke is still winning. The Blue Devils are

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Speaker 8: seven and five. They're holding on twenty to thirteen. Now

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Speaker 8: against seventeenth rank Virginia. Virginia has the ball in its

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Speaker 8: own end, trying, trying desperately for a long drive and

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Speaker 8: a quick one to get into field goal range. Penalty

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Speaker 8: puts them up at their own twenty eight yard line

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Speaker 8: or so, so they've got a ways to go and

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Speaker 8: only about a minute to do it. Earlier in Detroit,

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Speaker 8: Western Michigan won the MAC Championship twenty three to thirteen

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Speaker 8: over Miami, Ohio. As you reference college football selection, Sunday

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Speaker 8: is this weekend. That's when all the playoff teams will

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Speaker 8: be named and the bowls come out. Miami won the

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Speaker 8: MLS Cup Final three to one over Vancouver. The Rams

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Speaker 8: Sean McVay is due to coach Sunday at Arizona, but

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Speaker 8: he traveled there separately due to illness. NHL Florida seven

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Speaker 8: to six overtime winners against Columbus upset. In college basketball

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Speaker 8: is number ten ranked Iowa State didn't just win at

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Speaker 8: number one perdue, it beat him up eighty one fifty eight.

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Speaker 8: That ties the largest home loss ever by a number

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Speaker 8: one ranked basketball team. And in the NBA, Sacramento got

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Speaker 8: forty two points from Zach Lavine in a win at

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Speaker 8: Miami one twenty seven to one eleven. Once again, we're

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Speaker 8: at about a minute to go in the ACC title game.

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Speaker 8: Virginia with the ball, but in their own end of

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Speaker 8: the field, down twenty to thirteen to duke.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air towards

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: your Big Ten Champions. Duke in Virginia down to a

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Speaker 2: minute five. We will come back react to that, and

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Speaker 2: then we got to dive into this nine versus twelve.

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Speaker 2: Who's in, who's out. We'll discuss it all next. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio Erra Torris, Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 3: So I thought this was the Fraser theme at first.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh no when it started out, but the Christmas

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Speaker 3: music is on. But as it started, I was I

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Speaker 3: was waiting to hear about toss salad and scrambled eggs,

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Speaker 3: and instead is this, uh Michael Boublay, Yes there, all right.

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Speaker 2: Mary Mack on the ones in twos. Indiana's your Big

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Speaker 2: ten champ. Thirteen to ten. We've got a situation in Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: We're waiting to see it looks like Virginia, but he

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Speaker 2: stepped out. Was he forced out? That's why I screamed,

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Speaker 2: because Virginia has scored a touchdown, but the the wide

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Speaker 2: receiver went out of bounds. The question is was he

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Speaker 2: forced out? And if he was forced out, you know,

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Speaker 2: was he back in? All that good stuff? So I

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Speaker 2: don't think this touchdown is going to stand. Let me

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Speaker 2: put it that way. Uh, duke up? Twenty to thirteen. No,

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Speaker 2: well tells you what Torres knows. I guess I'm not

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Speaker 2: in the running for Mike Perreira's job. Because the touchdown

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Speaker 2: is good, the pat is good, and with twenty two

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Speaker 2: seconds left in Charlotte, Virginia has tied up the ACC

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Speaker 2: championship game. Remember the stakes here, so the top five

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Speaker 2: ranked conference champions get into the College Football Playoff. We

563
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Speaker 2: know that the Big ten champ Indiana, the SEC champ Georgia,

564
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Speaker 2: the Big twelve champ Texas Tech, and the American champ

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Speaker 2: Tulane are in. If Virginia wins this game, they will

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Speaker 2: get the final conference you know, auto bid if you

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Speaker 2: will to the Conference to College Football playoff if they

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Speaker 2: lose to Duke. Duke right now is behind James Madison

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Speaker 2: in the standings. James Madison has won the Sun Belt.

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Speaker 2: The assumption is that James Madison and Tulane will be

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Speaker 2: in the College Football Player. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 2: j Martin, and at some point we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: the nine through twelve. Think do you have an issue

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Speaker 2: with the G fives getting at least one spot. It

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Speaker 2: has become a little bit of a talking point right

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Speaker 2: now because obviously you have a tenant two Vandy that

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Speaker 2: isn't probably gonna be in. You obviously have Texas which

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Speaker 2: has some great wins but also has three losses that

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Speaker 2: isn't going to get in. You have the Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: versus Miami situation, and we could be looking at both

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Speaker 2: Twu Lane and James Madison getting in. I have some

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Speaker 2: strong opinions, but I'm curious for years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so a couple things. First, I assume you've seen

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Speaker 3: this story, but if not, certainly a really cool story

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Speaker 3: where Clark Lee actually was trying to find a game

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Speaker 3: that they could play this week I love to help

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Speaker 3: their case, and so they were gonna play Miami if

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Speaker 3: they could. I love it because even though I think

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Speaker 3: clarkly knew it couldn't be done based on the rules

590
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Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, I think it shows

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Speaker 3: this fan base. It's like, it's great optics, right, like

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Speaker 3: that we're trying to do everything we possibly can. But

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Speaker 3: more back to your question, yes, because if you're not

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Speaker 3: at least letting one of them in, then what exactly

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Speaker 3: are they playing for? If they can't get in, then

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Speaker 3: they need to be in a different classification altogether. There

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Speaker 3: has to be some reward for winning those leagues as well,

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Speaker 3: Like there has to be at least some shot. So yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Like if you're Texas, you had plenty of opportunities to

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Speaker 3: prove your way in and you weren't able to do it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is you have to at least

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Speaker 3: let one of them in or there's no reason for

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Speaker 3: them to be playing in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that's my take. And I remember years

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Speaker 2: ago when we had a fourteen playoff, I was filling

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Speaker 2: in one day with Mark Willard, who obviously now is

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Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, but at the time he was

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Speaker 2: doing radio in San Diego with Rich Orenberger, and he

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Speaker 2: was a you know, they covered San Diego State in

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Speaker 2: that year. I think san Diego State maybe when undefeated.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we do have overtime in the ACC

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Speaker 2: championship game, Duke in Virginia tied at twenty and you know,

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Speaker 2: he just you know, And I love college football, obviously

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Speaker 2: goes without saying, but that was the one thing I

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Speaker 2: could never defend is is I forget the year, and

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Speaker 2: I forget the circumstance. But San Diego State was maybe

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Speaker 2: nine and oh ten and oh eleven and oh whatever

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Speaker 2: it was, and they had no path to a college

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Speaker 2: football playoff, And so to me, they've been fighting one

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Speaker 2: hundred years to get a spot at the table. I

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Speaker 2: just think you play twelve games, I understand. By the way,

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Speaker 2: at some point one of these teams is gonna win

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Speaker 2: a game. Like It's just it's just such a non

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Speaker 2: issue to me. And and it's funny because.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean the same thing like I don't

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Speaker 3: want the Central Florida argument ever again. I don't want

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Speaker 3: the we're national champions argument ever again. You will limit

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Speaker 3: that by giving them a seed at the table. Let them,

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Speaker 3: Let them prove that on the field. I want to

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Speaker 3: see Tulane in. I want to see them more than

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Speaker 3: Duke of Virginia. I can darn sure tell you that

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Speaker 3: I want to see them and James Madison in more

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Speaker 3: than those. I want a five loss Duke team that

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Speaker 3: wins the ACCN Heck no, yeah, why well no?

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Speaker 2: And I think I think the argument would be just

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Speaker 2: eliminate like auto bids or take away the G five bid.

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Speaker 2: I just think, look, like I said, there's twelve spots,

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Speaker 2: the SEC is gonna get five teams in. Like, if

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Speaker 2: you're not good enough to get in at you know,

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Speaker 2: one of five spots, I'm sorry, Like, I just don't

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Speaker 2: feel that bad for you. So anyway, we're going overtime. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: if Duke were to win, we could be looking at

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Speaker 2: a scenario where both James Madison and Tulane are in.

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Speaker 2: Tulane has already unofficially clinched a spot in the College

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Speaker 2: Football Playoff. We'll see if both get in. Let's continue

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Speaker 2: this conversation, j Martin, We'll probably have to take it

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Speaker 2: into hour two. By the way, Brian know will join

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Speaker 2: us in hour two U to talk little bit about

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Speaker 2: the Notre Dame perspective, but Bama number nine, Notre Dame ten,

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Speaker 2: BYU eleven, Miami twelve. Okay, so this is just my

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Speaker 2: personal opinion and I don't know if today changed. And

652
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Speaker 2: by the way, for people who maybe haven't followed the discourse,

653
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Speaker 2: like the argument is that JMR and I last week

654
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Speaker 2: after the rivalry games basically went through we said there's

655
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Speaker 2: no scenario where Alabama does not get in. What complicates

656
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: things is two things. Is one, first of all, they

657
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: did move ahead of Notre Dame this week in the rankings.

658
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you're not going to

659
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Speaker 2: drop Alabama, there's an interesting argument that BYU, which to

660
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Speaker 2: the point that jmar brought up earlier in the show,

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Speaker 2: BYU is eleven and two. Their only losses are to

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Speaker 2: a top five Texas Tech team on the road and

663
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Speaker 2: on a neutral field. You can't drop BYU either. And

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Speaker 2: then it becomes do you put in Notre Dame? Do

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Speaker 2: you put in BYU?

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Speaker 3: I just.

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Speaker 2: I know where I think everybody's going and where everything

668
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Speaker 2: is going. But it's become a conversation about Alabama with

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Speaker 2: the third loss potentially being left out. I'll say this

670
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Speaker 2: because I know I'm just kind of talking in circles

671
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Speaker 2: at this point. The point you brought up to me

672
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Speaker 2: earlier is the most important one, and that's that the

673
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 2: precedent that would be set of going to a conference

674
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Speaker 2: championship game in the playoff, having the extra game, and

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Speaker 2: then being out of the playoff, I just don't think

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Speaker 2: it's a precedent the committee wants to set. And I'll

677
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Speaker 2: even take it a step further. I don't even want

678
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Speaker 2: to know what the SEC's reaction would be to that.

679
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: Like I'm not even kidding, Like I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think it's Rick Sache already kind of said it this week.

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Speaker 3: What did he say, I already say either he said

682
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Speaker 3: it after I saw the quote just a little while ago,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know when it was, if it was

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Speaker 3: after the game today or before it, but he said,

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Speaker 3: if there's a scenario where one of these two teams

686
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Speaker 3: where the loser of our game doesn't get in, then

687
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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to look at that, and we're gonna

688
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Speaker 3: have to look at the future of championship games. And

689
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: that is the right call, whether they get in or not,

690
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: because these things we need more time to break down

691
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Speaker 3: just how dumb these things actually are, well, yeah, I

692
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Speaker 3: hope they.

693
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Speaker 2: I hope they reconsider conference championship games just to begin with.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I will tell you this, and I

695
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Speaker 2: don't mean to poo poo what we do on air

696
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Speaker 2: here on this Saturday. I was very interested in the

697
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Speaker 2: Big Twelve because obviously there were stakes there.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I did not feel as invested in the SEC Championship

700
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Speaker 2: game as I normally would because I thought that both

701
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Speaker 2: of them were in right, yes, exactly, and maybe they

702
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Speaker 2: aren't and maybe come tomorrow I'll look stupid. But like,

703
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: certainly I watched it. I watched a dominant Georgia win,

704
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Speaker 2: but it just didn't feel and by the way, the

705
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Speaker 2: lead up to the game, at least in my opinion,

706
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Speaker 2: did not feel the same. And so I hope we

707
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Speaker 2: reconsider conference championship games altogether. I think it's inevitable that

708
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Speaker 2: if we lose conference championship games, we're probably gonna add

709
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Speaker 2: games to the playoff and add teams to the playoff

710
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Speaker 2: to make up for the difference of revenue and whatever.

711
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Speaker 2: But it just feels, like I told Ryan, follow our

712
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Speaker 2: buddy in Tuscal loose to this. It just feels like

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Speaker 2: a relic from a different era, Like it just feels

714
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Speaker 2: like something that we don't need to do anymore. You know, again,

715
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Speaker 2: if you're an Indiana fan listening right now, you probably

716
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: feel a lot differently. But I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know where I'm going with this. Is

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Speaker 2: just that I think we need to get rid of

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Speaker 2: conference championship games. I do think Alabama's into the College

720
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Speaker 2: Football Playoff, even with what happened on Saturday, So you do.

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Speaker 3: Think they're definitely in. You don't think there's going to

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Speaker 3: be any any course correction here at all to preserve

723
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Speaker 3: the conference championship games because one of two things that

724
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Speaker 3: the committee has to determine here is conference championship games

725
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: get put under a completely different microscope. I feel like

726
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Speaker 3: if Alabama has left out, even with what's happened in

727
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: the past and some of these title games and all

728
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Speaker 3: this other kind of stuff. The other president is if

729
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Speaker 3: you leave Alabama out, then you no longer have to

730
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Speaker 3: make the tough choice between Miami and Notre Dame, and

731
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Speaker 3: you get yourself out of that pickle. You've got one

732
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Speaker 3: or the other in which going to be the talking

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Speaker 3: point after this.

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Speaker 2: Because Notre Dame is obviously the team right behind Alabama,

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Speaker 2: so you can move Notre Dame up right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could flip them, because you flipped them last

737
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Speaker 3: week really for no reason, Like there was not anything

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Speaker 3: impressive that Alabama did other than that they played their

739
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: rival as opposed to a bad Stanford team, don't. I

740
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: don't know that there was any real justifiable reason, based

741
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Speaker 3: on what we had seen from Alabama over the last month,

742
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Speaker 3: for them to leap frog Notre Dame a week ago,

743
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Speaker 3: so you could easily flip.

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Speaker 2: Them back, and then who would be in It would

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Speaker 2: be Notre Dame in Alabama or not it would be.

746
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame in Miami at that point in time, I believe,

747
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Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously you have to end up in

748
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: nine and ten there, but you Alabama's gonna have to

749
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: drop in order for this to happen. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that it's gonna happen. I just I think that this

751
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: has gotten a lot more likely than any of us

752
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Speaker 3: believed going into this weekend.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what. We got two more hours to

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Speaker 2: discuss at all, because we are on until two am

755
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Speaker 2: Eastern and our two Brian No will join us. Our

756
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: resident Notre Dame basically insider used to work for the

757
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Speaker 2: school and for the team. He will come on share

758
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame perspective. We are efforting maybe Mario Cristobal,

759
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Speaker 2: and we're keeping you update on the ACC championship game.

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Speaker 2: Two more hours, plenty more college football Era Torus Jason

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Speaker 2: Martin taking you till two am Eastern, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour, two tours Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting and from the Fox Sports Radio studios

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Speaker 2: here at midnight Eastern. And what a night it is.

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Speaker 2: As Desager just told you, Duke is your ACC Conference champion.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, card I got close captioning on. So I

768
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: was just listening or I saw what the Duke coach

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Speaker 3: had to say.

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Speaker 2: What did he say?

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Speaker 3: He just he just well he laid out the case

772
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Speaker 3: and then at the end of it, he's like, yeah, that's

773
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: a playoff team, meaning them. Hates to tell you. I

774
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: hate to tell you, boss, I'm tired, Boss dog tired.

775
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 3: I'm John Coffee right now in the Green Mile Like no, no,

776
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: just just no, thank you thank you for coming. Appreciate it,

777
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: good win, good job, almost losing thing. Coming back and

778
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: winning in overtime. Good job finishing over five hundred by

779
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: a game or two or three. I guess you were

780
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: now eating five. But uh, enjoy whatever bowl you get

781
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: put into, because ain't no way you need to be

782
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: in a playoff.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Brad Power's great college football gambling Voice

784
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Speaker 2: just tweeted out, I didn't think of it this way,

785
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: but many Diaz wins an ACC title before Mario Cristibaal does.

786
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: Remember they fired many Daz to bring in Mario Crystaball.

787
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: So hey, we love both of them. We are efforting

788
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Mario Cristaball for this show. But I do think that's

789
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: kind of interesting. They ran Manny Diaz out of town

790
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: and he is the ACC champion. We will see if

791
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Speaker 2: Mario Christaball and the Miami Hurricanes get into the college

792
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: football playoff. J Martin, let's reset it. So yeah, we

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Speaker 2: came out last week after the all the big rivalry games,

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Speaker 2: and we kind of thought that twelve of or eleven

795
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Speaker 2: of twelve spots were set. Basically, the two teams in

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game, Indiana and Ohio State. The

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Speaker 2: two teams we thought at the time in the SEC

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Speaker 2: championship game Alabama and Georgia. We thought the Big twelve champs,

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Speaker 2: assuming it was Texas Tech, and then obviously two more

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Speaker 2: conference champions From there, we thought, who would it be

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Speaker 2: besides the runners up in the SEC and the Big Ten.

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00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: We also thought that Texas A and m Oregon, Ole

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Speaker 2: Miss and Oklahoma were going to get into college football

804
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Speaker 2: playoff and so that left basically one spot for one

805
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Speaker 2: spot for everybody else. Okay, bringing up fast forward this week,

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Speaker 2: the way the playoff rankings broke was that at number

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Speaker 2: nine was Alabama, number ten was Notre Dame, Number eleven

808
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Speaker 2: was BYU, Number twelve was Miami. A couple of caveats

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00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: there for people just joining us, don't follow this on

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00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: a day to day basis. Alabama did move up a spot, now, Ja,

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Speaker 2: mart I actually think there was a very strategic reason

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Speaker 2: that that happened. I'll explain it in a second. They

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Speaker 2: actually moved up a spot ahead of Notre Dame. Notre

814
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Speaker 2: Dame was ranked ninth, they were now tenth. Alabama and

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Speaker 2: BYU were both playing in conference championship games on Saturday.

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00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and Miami were out not playing on Saturday,

817
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Speaker 2: of course, and of course the wild card in all this.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is ranked ahead of Miami, but Miami has

819
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Speaker 2: the head to head win over Notre Dame. So basically,

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00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: the big conversation was, is there any scenario where if

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Speaker 2: Alabama were to lose the SEC championship game, especially in

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Speaker 2: ugly fashion, is there any way they could be out?

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Speaker 2: And again keeping in mind that they were in that

824
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: last year, no team that was in position to make

825
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: the playoff before the conference championship game, no team was

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Speaker 2: eliminated for playing in a conference championship game. So there's

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Speaker 2: that variable. The negative variables for Alabama is they did

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Speaker 2: have two losses. We've never had a three loss team

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Speaker 2: make the college football playoff as an at large team,

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Speaker 2: and they do have by far the worst loss of

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Speaker 2: pretty much anybody that is in serious consideration for a

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Speaker 2: playoff spot, which is the loss to open the season

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Speaker 2: against Florida State. So I bring it all up to say, basically,

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Speaker 2: there's two spots for Alabama at number nine, Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: at ten, BYU at eleven, Miami at twelve, with the

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Speaker 2: bonus caveats that Alabama got boat raced in their conference

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Speaker 2: championship and BYU got boat raced in THEIRS. Alabama again

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00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: was in coming into today. I am of the belief

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Speaker 2: two things. One I will say this, I do think

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00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: that Alabama was purposefully moved ahead of Notre Dame. And

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Speaker 2: you know, you've said a couple times in the show,

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00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: you know, what did they do in the Iron Bowl

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Speaker 2: to earn the bump. I don't think they did anything

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Speaker 2: in the Iron Bowl. I think what the committee was

845
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: factoring in was we can't move them ahead of Notre

846
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: Dame if they were to lose in the conference championship game,

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00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: So let's move them ahead now. Then we can just

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Speaker 2: keep them where they are and say, hey, we don't

849
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Speaker 2: punish teams for making conference championship games. So that's why

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00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: I believe it happened. But at the same time, I

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00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: think it is another data point, right, and if you

852
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: do lace them up and if you do step on

853
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: the field, it can be used in your favor or

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00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: against you. And Alabama did not look good. They did

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00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: not look competitive, And I think you brought up probably

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00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: the most important point that maybe is getting lost a

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00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: little bit in the shuffle. JMRK. Alabama hasn't really looked

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00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: good in a while now, no last four regular season games.

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Speaker 2: Let's just take out Eastern Illinois, that's whatever, seven point

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00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: win at Auburn, three two point loss to Oklahoma at home, ugly,

861
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Speaker 2: eleven point win at LS against LSU, and a seven

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: point win at South Carolina where they had to rally late.

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Speaker 2: So basically, they haven't looked like the team that we

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00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: all thought they were early in the year when they

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Speaker 2: won four straight games against ranked teams at the time.

866
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: The last time they beat a team of note was

867
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: Tennessee in mid October, and Tennessee isn't even ranked anymore,

868
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: and so that to me is an interesting caveat is

869
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: Alabama has not looked like a playoff team for a

870
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: while now. But you could also argue if they were

871
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: ten and two and they had just somehow lost the

872
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: tiebreaker and didn't play today, they wouldn't be penalized for it.

873
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: And so that's all. I don't know. I've talked for

874
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: seven straight minutes. I'm just gonna shut up. You take

875
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: it wherever you want, But that is the big conversation.

876
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: Nine through twelve. Only two of those teams can get

877
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: in Alabama at nine Notre Dame ten BYU eleven and

878
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Miami at twelve.

879
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: So Caitlyn de Bor would tell you two of the

880
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: three losses for Alabama were without jam Miller, and they

881
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: didn't have kwavas the outstanding tight end today and they

882
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: were missing alignment as well, So they definitely had some

883
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: injuries to hamper them coming in. I don't think those

884
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 3: are injuries that would have changed the outcome of the game.

885
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they would have made it closer, maybe they wouldn't have.

886
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: They beat Georgia on the road earlier in the year.

887
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: That's the best win anybody has outside of what we

888
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: saw Indiana do to Ohio State earlier tonight. I think

889
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: the problem comes in and this is why, Like originally

890
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: when we first started talking towards the end of the

891
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: SEC title game, when we knew what we were about

892
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: to see and how that come back at twenty one

893
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: to seven wasn't gonna happen because of the fourth down choice,

894
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: the bad throw by Simpson. And I know that doesn't

895
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: really narrow it down in this game because he was

896
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: not good in this game, but the fourth down throw

897
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: and the fourth down decision that then led that to

898
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: become a twenty eight to seven game. I was saying, look,

899
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: I would argue that Alabama has to be in here

900
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: because they are then going to be penalized because they

901
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: made the conference championship game, and that would set a precedent.

902
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: Although there have been teams that have been penalized for

903
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: losing conference championship games, just not to the extent that

904
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: they lost and then they missed out on a playoff

905
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: they otherwise would have been in. BYU. Is a different

906
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: story because if BYU, because they came in where they

907
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: were ranked, BYU had to win or they weren't going

908
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: to get into the top ten, Yes, because you have

909
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: to be ranked in the top ten or you're not

910
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: going to get into the college football playoffs. So it

911
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: was a little bit different. Alabama was already in BYU,

912
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: was on the outside looking in. They needed that win

913
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: to actually jump them potentially into that spot, so it

914
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: was a bit different from that perspective. So the conference

915
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: title game argument then goes like this, Alabama gets into

916
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: the playoff and no one is having this discussion. If

917
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: Texas A and M just beats Texas last week, sure,

918
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: because then we would have had A and M in

919
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: Georgia and Bama would have sat at home and they

920
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 3: would have gotten in. That is a very difficult thing

921
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 3: if you're KWin de boor or if you're Greg sank

922
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: or if you're anybody in any conference to take at

923
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: that point, and then you'll have that I even saw

924
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: this argument. Yeah, well, you got to play the games

925
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: in front of you. It's like, all right, well then

926
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go all straight Mario Kart on you. And

927
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: I just went in a weird direction with this, but

928
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: bear this out. There's a meta in Mario Kart where

929
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: you don't want to be first near the end of

930
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 3: the race. That sounds counterproductive, but the meta or most

931
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: effective tactic available. The meta is you want to be

932
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: second because the items that the guys near the back

933
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: get are so strong, and they'll hit you with those

934
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 3: and you'll get knocked just enough to where you lose

935
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: the race or finish third or fourth. You can dominate

936
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: the entire race, but then you get purple shelled or

937
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: you get blue shelled, and then you lose the race.

938
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: So ultimately you just don't want to play in the game.

939
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: You want to finish close. You want to have your

940
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: case made where you're gonna be one of the at largest.

941
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 3: You want to be Old Miss. It's a perfect spot

942
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: for Old Miss to be in or you want to

943
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 3: be an n You found your way out of that game.

944
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 3: And then the team that got in that was already

945
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 3: in the playoff a week ago, that team then gets

946
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: knocked out because they had to play the extra game.

947
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: That is very difficult. But again I will say the

948
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: problem is the Bama team that we saw today looks

949
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: an awful lot like the Bama team we've seen for

950
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: the last four or five weeks. It was just against

951
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: a team that exposed it more, a team that could

952
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: take advantage of it more and really kind of shine

953
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: a light on the flaws of this Alabama team. And

954
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that that impression, combined with a terrible

955
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: loss to a five and seven Florida State team that

956
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: wasn't close like they beat them down in the first

957
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: game of the season, I think that could be enough. Aaron,

958
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: I think it is possible that we could see Notre

959
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 3: Dame in Miami get in here and Alabama be left

960
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: out because I don't know that the hand ringing is

961
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: going to be there outside of the SEC. And I

962
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: understand the SEC in a Big ten basically run this

963
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: joint and run the college football playoff. But I think

964
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 3: this is the occasion where you need to take a stand,

965
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: and I think this needs to bury the conference championship

966
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: games forever, because if Bama gets left out, I would never,

967
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: as a coach, let my team participate in a conference

968
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: championship game ever again if they had already been in.

969
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: If I'm BYU and I'm Sataki, of course, but if

970
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: I'm Alabama, no, I'll just go ahead and forfeit like

971
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: there's no reason to show up. Last year, Gunner Stockton

972
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: got injured in a college football playoff or in the

973
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 3: SEC championship game for Georgia, who knows how much that

974
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: hurt them in the college football playoffs, And now this

975
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: year you have this Bama situation. We are getting to

976
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 3: the point where there's a reason why there's no AFC

977
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: East Title game. There's a reason why you don't have

978
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: that kind of thing because all it can do is

979
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: harm you in most cases. So I think that's the

980
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: big argument coming out tomorrow. Are the committee going to

981
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: save the conference championship games or are they going to

982
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: put them closer to being six feet under?

983
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? All I would say is I just think, to me,

984
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: this is why you can't not put Alabama in? Is

985
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: that I listen, I think it's a conversation worth having

986
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: because again I do think that there's the fact that,

987
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: like Alabama doesn't look good, did not win the game.

988
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: The problem is that by default they were in this game.

989
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: And when I say by default, what I mean was

990
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: if certain tie breakers went certain ways, they wouldn't have

991
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: had to play. And so to your point about BYU,

992
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: because I've heard this, well, if you don't put Bama in,

993
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: you can't put BYU in. Or if you put Bama in,

994
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: you have to put BYU in. And it's to the

995
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: point that the saga has brought up time and time

996
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: and time again over the last couple of weeks, is

997
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: that BYU was outside of the playoff picture prior to today,

998
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: and so they essentially needed to win. Now Is that fair?

999
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 4: Is it?

1000
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: They needed to win their way in. Yes, they weren't

1001
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: going to lose their way out to begin with.

1002
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: No, and there's no doubt. And so that to me

1003
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: is it's just a completely different conversation. And I think

1004
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: my bigger picture thing is I do think it sets

1005
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: a bad precedent. Here's where I'm actually worried. Is Ah,

1006
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 2: this sounds weird. I'm afraid to know what Greg Sank

1007
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: will attempt to do if Alabama gets left out, because

1008
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: you know, they're not gonna just take this sitting down

1009
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: and that's the way the draw falls. And hey, let's

1010
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 2: be honest, they really.

1011
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: Want you know what you but I think you know

1012
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: what he's going to do.

1013
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: What is he gonna do?

1014
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: Expand the playoffs?

1015
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and maybe that's an evidence that's what's

1016
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: coming anyway.

1017
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might speed us along that pathway, but that's

1018
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: gonna be the thing. We got to go to sixteen

1019
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: teams immediately, that's what's gonna happen.

1020
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: Well, and it's just an interesting conversation of if we

1021
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: didn't have conference championship games, Like, I don't know where

1022
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: I stand on if we had no conference champion You know,

1023
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: the problem with college sports right now, and this is

1024
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: very you know, thirty thousand feet, is that every time

1025
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: something happens, we have to change for that thing that

1026
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: happened in the moment without understanding that it's in the

1027
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: moment and it might not be reflective. So this year,

1028
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: there is the legitimate argument that there are more good

1029
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: teams than there are spots, specifically when you factor in

1030
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: that we have five auto bids, right, if it just

1031
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: went to the top twelve teams, then all of a sudden,

1032
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: everybody gets in and everybody's happy, and there's no two

1033
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: lane and there's no James Madison. That's not how this

1034
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: is structured. So I just feel like, to your point,

1035
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: no matter what happens with Alabama, I think we're probably

1036
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: getting expansion, but I do think that expedites the process.

1037
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 2: I just think that it's a crappy precedent to set.

1038
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: And you know, my stance is two things. Is it

1039
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: can be true that Alabama is not playing like one

1040
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: of these seven best at large candidates right now and

1041
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: maybe hasn't been for a month. But the counter to

1042
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: that is, again, if they were sitting at home today,

1043
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: if they were not playing today, then an Ole Miss

1044
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: got in, or A and M got in or whoever

1045
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: got in, then Alabama's not being punished. I don't think

1046
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: they can be punished for randomly by luck of tiebreaker,

1047
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: ending up in the SEC Championship game. So I do

1048
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: think they're in. And then I think the interesting conversation

1049
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 2: becomes if you don't drop them. In theory, you probably

1050
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: shouldn't drop BYU either, and then you have to put

1051
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: in Notre Dame. Because my all week was that if

1052
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: BYU loses, BYU will be dropped and then it'll be

1053
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: Notre Dame versus Miami head to head, and then you

1054
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 2: can just flip the two. Now, though talking it through,

1055
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that I feel that way, because if

1056
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: you don't drop Bama, I don't know that you can

1057
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: drop Texas Tech. And if you don't drop Texas Tech,

1058
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: then I guess Notre Dame gets in.

1059
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 8: Uh.

1060
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: I know that's a little I know we're just no, no, no, no,

1061
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying Notre Dame gets in if you if you yeah, yeah, yeah, if.

1062
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: You don't know, if you said Texas Tech, yes.

1063
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: If you don't drop Bama at number eight or number nine,

1064
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: excuse me for losing a conference championship game, then in theory,

1065
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: you should not drop Uh. In theory, you should not

1066
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: drop BYU. And if you don't drop BYU, then Miami

1067
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: doesn't move, Notre Dame stays in and they get the

1068
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: last spot. So yeah, So I actually was of the

1069
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 2: impression all week long that basically BYU when they lost

1070
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: to be dropped Notre Dame in Miami would be back

1071
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: to back in the standings, and then you could just

1072
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: use the head to head to move Miami up. Now,

1073
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure because I do think if you

1074
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: set the precedent we don't drop Alabama, which I don't

1075
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: think is gonna happen, then I don't know how you

1076
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: drop BYU, and I think Miami might be on the

1077
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: outside looking in.

1078
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: Well, I think we got a good Notre Dame perspective

1079
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Speaker 3: coming up.

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00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: We'll tell you why why don't we get to that

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00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: Notre Dame perspective. Brian know who used to work for

1082
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: Notre Dame football. He is obviously now.

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00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: One of our art I didn't even know that. I

1084
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 3: just knew he was from South Bend and loved the team.

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00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: I believe he did work for Notre Dame football. Well,

1086
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: I have to ask him. I'm pretty sure he was

1087
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: like in the radio booth for the Bush Push game.

1088
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: I could be mistaken on that. Yeah, well, let's see.

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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: Let's see if he if he can make the justification

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00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame. But he is at minimum from South Bend,

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Speaker 2: he will join us next to give us the Notre

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: Dame perspective. Brian No joining us. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio Ertorres Jason Martin broadcasting

1094
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports' Radio studios. In just one moment,

1095
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to our guy, Brian Know, who knows

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00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: more about Notre Dame football than anything is Notre Dame

1097
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: in Are they out? We're gonna discuss it with Brian

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00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: No in just one second. Before we do, though, let's

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Speaker 2: get it over the news desk. My mand de Sega.

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00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: What a night in college football. The Indiana Hoosiers are

1101
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: the best team in the country thirteen to zero after

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00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: beating defending champion and undefeated Ohio State to win the

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00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Big Ten title thirteen to ten. Number three Georgia took

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00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: the SEC crown over Alabama, and it was pretty easy,

1105
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: as it turned out, twenty eight to seven. Twenty one

1106
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: nothing was the Georgia lead early in the third quarter.

1107
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 2: Fourth ranked Texas Tech had dominated BYU a month ago.

1108
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: They beat him thirty four to seven today for the

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00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: Big twelve championship. Duke in overtime won the ACC beating

1110
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: Number seventeen Virginia twenty seven to twenty so unranked duke

1111
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: winning means it's quite possible too. Smaller conference team teams

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Speaker 2: make the playoff that'll be official tomorrow and no ACC team.

1113
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: By the way, this is college Football's selection. Sunday weekend,

1114
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: Miami won the MLS Cup Final three to one over

1115
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 2: Vancouver MVP Lionel Messi with two assists in the second

1116
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: half in Fort Lauderdale. The franchise has only existed for

1117
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: about five years, co owned by David Beckham in Major

1118
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: League Soccer. Over the past nine years now, eight different

1119
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: teams have won the title. By the way, US men's

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00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: soccer will face Paraguay and Australia in next Summer's World Cup,

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Speaker 2: and then it'll face a European playoff winner. The fee

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00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 2: for World Cup draw was on Fox TV yesterday from Washington, DC.

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Speaker 8: The US will co host the attorney and it'll be

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 8: on Fox TV and FS one. In the NHL, Florida

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00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 8: seven to six overtime winners against Columbus in college hoops

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00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 8: number ten, Iowa State one at number one, Perdue eighty

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00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 8: one fifty eight, and late tonight number two Arizona crush

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00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 8: number twenty Auburn ninety seven sixty eight In the NBA.

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00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 8: Sacramento Zach Levine with forty two points in a win

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Speaker 8: at my Miami won twenty seven one eleven. Dallas and

1131
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 8: Minnesota each one at home. Detroit as well. Pistons are

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 8: nineteen and five road wins for Golden State and Atlanta.

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: Brooklyn was five.

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Speaker 8: And seventeen, but it got to play New Orleans today

1135
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 8: and beat the Pelicans one nineteen, one oh one the

1136
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 8: Pels three and twenty one. Oklahoma City shay Giljos Alexander

1137
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 8: will not play Sunday due to left elbow Bersidas Luka.

1138
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 8: Doncic of the Lakers will play Sunday. He missed the

1139
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 8: last couple games for family reasons. Lebron James of LA

1140
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 8: is questionable. He did not play Friday due to back

1141
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 8: end foot injuries, and LaMelo Ball of the Hornets is

1142
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 8: out Sunday with a bruised ankle.

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01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Duve Sager. This

1144
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday and the Sunday

1145
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1146
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: Radio studios. Without any further Ado, let's get to the

1147
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: phone lines. You can hear this, gentleman, every single Saturday

1148
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: and Sunday. We talk about it all the time. The

1149
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: best pregame showing up America Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented

1150
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: by bed MGM Saturday and Sunday mornings. He is one

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: of the three co hosts. Brian Know, Brian, Know what's up?

1152
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: Buddy?

1153
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: How you doing?

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: Top of the evening?

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 6: To you a lot, that's all. That's all I can do.

1156
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 6: Like my Irish accident goes straight downhill after like five words,

1157
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 6: I don't even know if that was any good, but

1158
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 6: it's great to be on with you guys. And I'll

1159
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 6: tell you what Aaron Torres props to you. I had

1160
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 6: no idea you even knew I was doing like notre

1161
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 6: dame pregame stuff. How did you even know that about me?

1162
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 6: I'm impressed by that.

1163
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: Uh it's called LinkedIn.

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01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: You should know.

1165
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: No, you and I filled in one day and I

1166
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: think you told me that.

1167
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 6: Oh really, I feel like you See.

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01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing. I know you and Jay mart

1169
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: you guys fill in together all the time and your

1170
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: best buds. I think I filled in with you once

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 2: or twice. Huh. I remember there was some Caitlin Clark

1172
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: discourse at one point but I swear I remember you

1173
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: saying that, so so real quick, because j Martin didn't

1174
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: know and I don't know all the details. Give us

1175
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: your history with Notre Dame football, Okay.

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01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 6: Real fast. I just did the pregame show, which coincidentally

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01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 6: was also called Countdown to Kickoff. This was the five season,

1178
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 6: and so that was the Bush Push season. And so

1179
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 6: what was cool about it? And this is like first

1180
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 6: world problems. Yeah, we would do the pregame show and

1181
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,959
Speaker 6: then they would give you a press box pass, which

1182
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 6: I hated you. You would sit in the press box,

1183
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 6: which is, you know, a great, great luxury, but it's

1184
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 6: enclosed in glass. It's a quote unquote working environment, you know,

1185
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 6: no cheering. If Notre Dame scores on USC, I had

1186
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 6: to sit there like you know, like and say go

1187
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 6: Irish under my breath. I can't do that. I just can't.

1188
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 6: So I would stand on top of the press box

1189
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 6: and you could feel the crowd, you could hear everything,

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 6: you could see everything, and then you could go down

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01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 6: to the field on the final five minutes for the

1192
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 6: final five minute. And so that particular game, I saw

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01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 6: Joe Montana on the sideline. You could walk back and forth,

1194
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 6: I could like reach out and be like, hey some Marja,

1195
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 6: go get them, buddy, and like tap them on their

1196
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 6: shoulder pads. I'm like, how could they allow this? But

1197
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 6: you could really do that. And I was right there

1198
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 6: on the sideline the Dwayne Jarrett fourth to nine, the

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Speaker 6: Bush push, the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I was right there real quick. Before we get to

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01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: j Mart's follow up, do you think when Joe Montana

1202
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: tells that story, he says, you know, I was walking

1203
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: right by Brian No and I could talk to some marsha.

1204
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 6: I'm sure that's what he says. And the other thing

1205
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 6: that I remember, I went down to the field after

1206
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 6: the game and I was walking right behind Reggie Bush

1207
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 6: and Lendale White. They're walking off the field and the

1208
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 6: fans were mfing them like crazy, and I'm.

1209
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: Like, touchdown, Jesus is right behind us. What is going on?

1210
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 6: And I give them all the credit in the world.

1211
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 6: They were so professional. They just walked right off the

1212
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 6: field like they didn't hear anything. And I'm like, wow, man,

1213
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 6: it was just it's like, that's messed up.

1214
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: Man.

1215
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: They shouldn't have to deal with that. But that's just

1216
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 6: the day in the life of an athlete, Like that sucks, man,

1217
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 6: but it happens all the time.

1218
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 3: Alrightb this is a mess, this whole situation, it is

1219
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: from nine to twelve, and the way that Alabama looked

1220
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 3: in the thrashing that they took any SEC title game.

1221
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily want you to You don't have to

1222
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: like make your case for Notre Dame. I want you

1223
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: to tell me what you think should happen based on today,

1224
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 3: if anything should change, and who should be left outside

1225
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: of this.

1226
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Speaker 6: It's tough, right because it's a weird thing when you

1227
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 6: start to say, well, I think Notre Dame, Well, then

1228
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 6: you think that head to head doesn't matter, or you

1229
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 6: think that losing a conference championship game, you know, matters

1230
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 6: so much, right Like, it's kind of like, well, I

1231
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 6: don't think that it shoehorns you into a spot you

1232
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 6: probably don't want to be in cause it's three teams

1233
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 6: for two spots. It's Miami, it's Notre Dame, it's Alabama.

1234
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 6: What I think should happen, and I wouldn't bet on

1235
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 6: this happening. I think Bama should be left out. I

1236
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 6: think Miami should be ninth. I think Notre Dame should

1237
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 6: be tenth. I think Bama should be eleventh, and I

1238
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 6: don't think by you should even be considered like they

1239
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 6: they were outside the cutoff line before they got the

1240
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 6: doors blown off of them again like get out BYU.

1241
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 6: I don't want to hear about them. But Miami beat

1242
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 6: Notre Dame head to head. That matters. Sorry for every

1243
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 6: Notre Dame fan out there, Miami should be in ahead

1244
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 6: of Notre Dame. The thing with Alabama that I can't

1245
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 6: get past. They not only lost, they got freaking waxed today.

1246
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 6: And I'll give mark Ingram a lot of credit on FOXX,

1247
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 6: I agree, right Aaron, because they went to him and

1248
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 6: as soon as they were like hey, mark Ingram, what

1249
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 6: do you think about Bama? Do you think they're in?

1250
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 6: I kind of just rolled my eyes like here we go,

1251
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 6: here's Mark, Like yeah, I think so roll tied.

1252
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: It comes to Desmond Howard.

1253
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 6: I didn't say that right. He was like, look, not

1254
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 6: only did they lose, they weren't even competitive. They lost

1255
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 6: by three touchdowns. That's their third loss. They should be out.

1256
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 6: And I was like, Wow, props to mark Ingram. But

1257
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 6: that's how I see it too. The problem I have

1258
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 6: is if Alabama won. There was talk about them getting

1259
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 6: a bye, so you can own this can only help

1260
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 6: you if you win your conference championship game. Well this

1261
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 6: means a ton. You lose your conference championship game, you

1262
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 6: can't be penalized, quote unquote. I don't buy that at all.

1263
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 6: Not only did they lose, they got crushed, And I

1264
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 6: would argue they're not getting penalized just for the SEC

1265
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 6: championship game. They're really getting punished for losing to Florida

1266
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 6: freaking state, Florida State. You realize they went two and

1267
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 6: six in the ACC, which was a terrible conference.

1268
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 3: Hey, man, Duke, I mean, Duke is a worthy champion.

1269
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

1270
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 6: I take it back, you're right about that, Jay Marble Man,

1271
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 6: what a thrilling Yeah, that's crazy. But they were two

1272
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 6: in that god awful conference and they crushed Alabama. So

1273
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 6: I think someone's got to go. I think it should

1274
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 6: be Alabama. I think it probably will be Notre Dame

1275
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 6: because I think that's the easy way out, and I

1276
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 6: would expect the committee to be Weeni's and take the

1277
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 6: easy way out here. That's what I would expect to happen.

1278
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 6: And I pray that I'm wrong.

1279
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Speaker 2: By the way, I think an interesting thing that I

1280
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: don't know that anybody's really brought up, and I don't know.

1281
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: I would love for the committee to see if, like

1282
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: they actually address this, if you want to make the

1283
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: argument against Bama for Notre Dame in Miami, not only

1284
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: is there the Notre Dame Miami head to head, Miami

1285
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: and Alabama have a common opponent in a common building.

1286
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: Miami destroyed Florida State at Florida State, Alabama lost him.

1287
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that that matters, but I think it's interesting,

1288
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: and I don't I haven't heard anybody really make that

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Speaker 2: point really quickly. No, you know, you brought up the

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Speaker 2: you know, the conference championship shouldn't just be able to

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Speaker 2: help you and not hurt you. What would you say, Like,

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Speaker 2: if we had Ryan Fowler, our tied insider on this

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Speaker 2: show and he's been basically telling you, why are we

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Speaker 2: going to be punished for playing this extra game while

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Speaker 2: you guys get to sit at home? What would you

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Speaker 2: say to him, because obviously that will be a talking

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Speaker 2: point of like, again, why is somebody punished for having

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Speaker 2: to play this extra game they were in if there

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Speaker 2: was no tie? You know, if there was no SEC

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Speaker 2: championship game.

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Speaker 3: They were in.

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Speaker 2: If they had somehow lost the tie break, they were in.

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Speaker 2: Now they're out while Notre Dame gets to sit at home.

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Speaker 2: What would you say about that?

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Speaker 6: I would say that it's similar to Texas.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: Texas wants to say we shouldn't be punished for playing

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 6: Ohio State. It's like, bro, you're not being punished for

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Speaker 6: losing to Ohio State. You're being punished for losing to Florida.

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Speaker 6: That's what That's what you're being punished against. And I

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Speaker 6: think it's similar. It's I get it right. Alabama was

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Speaker 6: ranked ninth. If they're not playing, they're in. But I

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Speaker 6: look at this like, hey man, you played the game.

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Speaker 6: That's your third loss. And within those three losses, you

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Speaker 6: lost to Florida State.

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Speaker 3: You lost to.

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma, who I don't think is even good, but they're

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Speaker 6: gonna be in the playoff. And that's another bad loss.

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Speaker 6: You outgained Oklahoma, but you had these ugly turnovers. Like

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Speaker 6: that's what fraud teams do. I think, you know, I

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01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 6: think Alabama is so fraudulent. I think they are the

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Speaker 6: epitome of fools. Gold They had a really good run

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Speaker 6: midway through the season, but they got crushed by Florida State,

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Speaker 6: they got crushed today by Georgia. They had narrow wins

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Speaker 6: against multiple teams, barely beating South Carolina, not scoring against LSU.

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Speaker 6: The list goes on and on. So I don't look

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Speaker 6: at Bama like if you put another jersey on them

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Speaker 6: and they're not named Alabama, they're named like Ole Miss.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think they're looking at them much different.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to cut you off, and I don't

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01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: mean to cut you off, jam Mart I had that

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Speaker 2: thought today. If Vandy was number nine, there you go,

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Speaker 2: and Vandy lost the way that they did today.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, not even a question, they're out. Yeah, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: A good point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, Jami. I don't mean to cut you up,

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Speaker 2: but I had that thought while I was watching that

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Speaker 2: game today.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean that's one hundred percent right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: what was the joke that we made in the text earlier, Aaron,

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Speaker 3: You said, well, what's the argument for leaving BYU out?

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Speaker 3: And this is before you know you thought about the

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: fact that they were never in and had to win

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 3: their way in. I was like, well, the argument is

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Speaker 3: that one of them is BYU and the other one

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: is Alabama. Like that's not what it should be. Yeah,

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01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: but that's that's what it should be. So I heard

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01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: this done earlier, and I like this exercise. I just

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: want you to do this for us, Brian. Take these

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Speaker 3: four teams. I don't think BYU should be considered either

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01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: in this case because they weren't in to begin with. Yeah,

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: but take those four teams, the ones that we know of, Miami,

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01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, Alabama, BYU, and ranked them in order of

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: what or who could be the most successful in the

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01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 3: college football playoff.

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 6: Who could be the most successful? I would say it's

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01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 6: Notre Dame, Bama, Miami. That's how I would rank them.

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 6: And then you know, by the general rule of thumb

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 6: is be YU is not a consideration, not a consideration

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01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 6: in my book, to make the playoff. They're not a

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 6: consideration to do anything should they make the playoff. I

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01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,520
Speaker 6: just don't think highly of that team. Like bear Bachmeyer

1363
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 6: is limited, they don't have a very good offense. That's

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 6: it's not a team that's going anywhere. So that would

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 6: be my list right there is Notre Dame, then Bama,

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 6: then Miami. That's why I would expect to make the

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01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 6: most noise. But that's the problem I have. Listen with

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01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 6: the Notre Dame argument is we can't go by hypotheticals.

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 6: That's why it needs to be Miami over Notre Dame.

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 6: Like I think Notre Dame would be Miami on a

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 6: neutral field right now. But guess what that could be freaking.

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01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 3: Wrong, right like we already played, Yeah.

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01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 6: They've already. We got to go by what actually happened

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 6: instead of what you think would happen in the next round, Like,

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 6: we can't be putting teams in based on what you

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01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 6: think like.

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Speaker 3: That, Well, I'll tell you what, what do you think

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 3: is gonna happen? Yeah, I'm sorry, So what do you

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01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: think is actually gonna happen tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: I'm still so worried that Notre Dame Again, it's the

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 6: easy way out. The committee could look and say, hey,

1382
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 6: we had to consider head to head, that's why Miami

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01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 6: got in, and we just can't punish a team that

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 6: lost its conference championship game, and that's why we put

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01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 6: Bama in. That's what I'm worried they're going to say,

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01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 6: and that's what they're gonna do. That's my gut feeling

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 6: is they're gonna take the easy way out. I'll put

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 6: it this way. Notre Dame is the perfect candidate for

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 6: the easy way out, and you could explain it in

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01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 6: a way where a lot.

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01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 3: Of people would buy that.

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 6: I think Bama was pathetic today and I think they

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 6: earned their way out of the playoff, but I'm not

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 6: sure the committee is going to see it that way.

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: We gotta let you go. I we can talk about this,

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: Jamaar and I for another hour. I tend to agree

1397
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: with you is I think I just keep going back

1398
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: to Bama isn't one of the seven best teams, but

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01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,480
Speaker 2: there are just so many reasons that it just probably

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: will get in. So anyway, So you are, so you're

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: going to be talking all things NFL tomorrow, right, are

1402
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 2: you going to break in it all for the college

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01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: football bracket because you'll be on Eastern.

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll lead off with college talk, That's what we

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 6: typically do. And then yeah, when we're talking, like the

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 6: third hour begins and oh my gosh, this, I'm either

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01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 6: going to have a nervous breakdown and you know, like

1408
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 6: break the microphone live on air. If the Irish are

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01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 6: left off, left out of the playoff or you know,

1410
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna lose my mind and I'll be doing

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 6: the Irish jig as they are in the field. So

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01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 6: one way or the other, it might be a viral moment.

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01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 6: I don't know.

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 3: Tell Jeff that I think Oregon should be left out.

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01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: Okay, they lost their offensive coordinator this week. I mean

1416
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: we have to think, oh yeah they did do they

1417
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: lost both coordinators?

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeh, that's what I thought. Get them out.

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 6: It's always good to troll the short syndicate.

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: I always have a lot of fun with him. He's

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 6: a good time, all right.

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: Well, you can hear Brian Know which Schwartz on countdown

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: to kickoff tomorrow. That is, of course, three hours before kickoff,

1425
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: taking you right up until kickoff on Sunday. But there

1426
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: will be a lot of college football because guess what,

1427
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: that bracket gets dropped at noon Eastern Brian Know will

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: be on air.

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01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 6: No, this was fun, man, man, it was a great time.

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01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 6: Thanks for inviting me. I love you guys, love talking

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 6: ball with you. And let's go Irish. Let's do a

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01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 6: little jig. Let's do a little jig on the way

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01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 6: out here, Irish.

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Brian, Next year, in the one

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: big game that Notre Dame plays, we'll have you on

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: in the postgame. Okay, probably won't bring you on for

1437
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: Stanford and Army, but you know you'll play somebody good.

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01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: We'll get you on. Thank you for time.

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 6: No, that's good.

1440
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 2: We'll be listening tomorrow.

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01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 6: All right, sounds good, you guys.

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: Take care all right, Brian. No, you can hear him

1443
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: on countdown three hours before kickoff, so of course that

1444
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: is ten am Eastern, seven Pacific. We'll come back. De Saga,

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01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 2: will put a bow on a monster day of college football,

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Speaker 2: of college basketball, of NBA, everything you've missed from across

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Speaker 2: the world of sports. Air tours Jason mart taking you

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Speaker 2: til two Ama start Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: to the news desk with plenty to discuss. Here is

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01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: Steve de Sager.

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Speaker 8: Guys, it was a great night for Duke in Indiana

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01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 8: in football. I'm not kidding. Those two won conference championship

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 8: games tonight. Absolutely, that is crazy. In fact, Duke had

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01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 8: not won even a share of the ACC football title

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01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 8: since nineteen eighty nine, Indiana not since nineteen sixty seven

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01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 8: when it went to the Rose Bowl. Texas Tech had

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 8: never won a Big twelve title until today. But that

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01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 8: Indiana win and they're thirteen and oh now was against

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Speaker 8: number one Ohio State, which had been undefeated thirteen to

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Speaker 8: ten the final. In fact, the folks had statsin say

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Speaker 8: before this upset tonight. The last time a number two

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Speaker 8: beat number one by three points or less was the

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Speaker 8: famed Rose Bowl of Vince Jung in Texas over USC,

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Speaker 8: which has been about twenty years now. Indiana wins in

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 8: Indianapolis their first outright conference title since nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 8: Indiana had lost to Ohio State had to head thirty

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01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 8: straight times since a tie game in nineteen ninety. Fernando

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01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 8: Mendoza one touchdown, one interception, Charlie Becker six catches one

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Speaker 8: hundred and twenty six yards. The Hoosier defense with five

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 8: sacks in this victory, and the big thing in the

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Speaker 8: second half of the buck guys. They drove down inside

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 8: the ten yard line twice and got no points from him,

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01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 8: stopped on fourth and one at the five after review,

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01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 8: and missed a twenty seven yard field goal at ten.

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 8: Late Indiana had missed a thirty nine yard er in

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Speaker 8: the first half. Indiana this year also won at number

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Speaker 8: five Oregon in October. The Hoosiers have never been ranked

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Speaker 8: number one in football. It's going to happen tomorrow at

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01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 8: thirteen and oh Ohio State had not trailed in a

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Speaker 8: second half this year until this evening. They defeated Texas

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01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 8: in their opener Michigan. The previous game, they finished twelve

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Speaker 8: and one. As we said earlier in the show, we're

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Speaker 8: assuming that the top four in this week's committee rankings

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01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 8: are still going to be in whatever order. The four

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 8: that get the first round bys Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia,

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 8: and Texas Tech Number three. Georgia won the SEC over

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01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 8: Alabama twenty eight to seven. Brian mentioned how Alabama didn't

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01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 8: look good. In fact, the offense for the Tide had

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Speaker 8: eleven drives and only eleven first downs today.

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me the thing of if you want to

1502
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: argue you Notre Dame was at home? Yeah that was

1503
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 2: me this Yeah, yeah, j Mart sent me a mean

1504
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 2: that said, you want to argue Notre Dame was at home.

1505
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: They still finished with more rushing yards than Alabama's Notre

1506
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: Dame in Miami.

1507
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 8: Yes, only two hundred nine total yards for Bama tonight.

1508
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 8: And I know the running backs were missing, but are

1509
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 8: you also gonna mention Jeordia didn't have it center and

1510
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 8: could still run up the middle.

1511
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: No, queek, And that wouldn't make the wouldn't make that

1512
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 3: wouldn't make the right argument.

1513
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 8: Things like that. Okay, Yeah, it's like all the people

1514
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 8: that we'll mention for the next twenty years. You know,

1515
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 8: Ohio State missed a twenty seven yard field goal in

1516
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 8: the final minutes, and you know I just mentioned Indiana

1517
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 8: missed a field goal too. Let's not forget that. Georgia

1518
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 8: led twenty one nothing over Bama. Early third quarter. Alabama's

1519
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 8: running backs for the record seven carries, twenty one yards.

1520
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 8: Jam Miller did not play leg injury. Each team punted

1521
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 8: seven times today. Gunner stocked in three touchdown passes. He

1522
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 8: was twenty of twenty six for one hundred and fifty

1523
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 8: six yards. George's only loss was the home game to Alabama.

1524
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 8: They avenged that they had defeated Tennessee and Mississippi this

1525
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 8: year and Texas and Georgia Tech recently. Alabama's offense today

1526
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 8: they had drives of four plays or less eight different

1527
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 8: times out of the eleven drives. Georgia was in the

1528
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 8: conference title game for now a fifth straight year in Atlanta.

1529
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 8: Bama is ten and three their case. As you mentioned,

1530
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 8: they lost the opener at Florida State, lost at home

1531
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 8: to Oklahoma, did get a win, and all of this

1532
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 8: was in a row this year, a win at Georgia,

1533
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 8: then versus Vanderbilt, then a win at Missouri, then against Tennessee.

1534
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 8: Bama is ten and three overall number four. Texas Tech

1535
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 8: beat BYU for the Big twelve title thirty four to seven,

1536
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 8: and it was just about a month ago at home

1537
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 8: that Texas Tech rip BYU twenty nine to seven. They're

1538
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 8: only lost this season, twelve and one came without their

1539
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 8: quarterback at Arizona State, giving up a last minute touchdown

1540
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 8: in that game. Today at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium, it

1541
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 8: was thirteen to seven. Late in the third quarter thirty

1542
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,879
Speaker 8: four to seven the final baron Morton with a fibula injury,

1543
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 8: which reminds me of Daniel Jones playing nonetheless, two touchdown

1544
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 8: passes today and Texas Tech went four for six six

1545
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 8: on field goals byu after its opening drive only one

1546
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,440
Speaker 8: hundred and ten yards of offense on forty five plays

1547
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 8: as quarterback bear Backmeyer played through an ankle entry. And Yes,

1548
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 8: Duke won in overtime against Virginia in the ACC Thank you.

1549
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 2: Very much to Seger. Tell you what we got one

1550
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 2: hour left and we got a lot to discuss. We're

1551
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: gonna give you our final predictions on the final spots

1552
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,520
Speaker 2: in the college football playoff, look ahead to Week fourteen

1553
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: in the NFL. That's all next. Fox Sports Radio.

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01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,120
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01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,920
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1566
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: the iHeart app, so it will always pop up at

1567
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 2: the top of your screen. All of the college football

1568
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: is final. We've had games since noon Eastern time today.

1569
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: Texas Tech wins the Big twelve. Georgia beats Alabama in

1570
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 2: the SEC, Indiana beats Ohio State in the Big Ten. Duke,

1571
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 2: as de Sager just told you, has shocked Virginia in

1572
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 2: the ACC. It potentially opens up the door for both

1573
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,799
Speaker 2: James Madison and Tulane to get into the College football Playoff.

1574
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: Remember it is the top five conference champions. In the

1575
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: rankings right now, James Madison is ahead of Duke. Duke

1576
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 2: was not ranked last week. James Madison was. So yeah.

1577
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: That's where things stand out. Although there is a little

1578
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: bit of a little bit of debate over who should

1579
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: be the final teams. We'll talk about that in a minute.

1580
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 2: Before we do, j Mart just want to spend half

1581
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:05,480
Speaker 2: a second on what was an awesome story from this evening. Indiana,

1582
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: a program which quite literally has more losses than any

1583
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: school in college football history, or at least FBS history,

1584
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 2: is your Big Ten champs thirteen to ten. They beat

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01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: the Ohio State buck Guys, we assume they will be

1586
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: the number one seed in the College Football Playoff. We're

1587
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: gonna talk about them in half a second. This was

1588
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza with Jenny Taft after the game.

1589
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 3: Does that sound it sounds so beautiful.

1590
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 6: I want to give all the glory to God.

1591
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,879
Speaker 2: We were never supposed to be in this decision.

1592
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 9: But by the glory of God, the great coach is.

1593
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,879
Speaker 1: Great team mates we have around us, we were able.

1594
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 6: To pull this off.

1595
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 3: Whoever thought the who would be here?

1596
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: But now the Hoosiers are flipping champs. Let's go you.

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01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 6: Guys call yourself a bunch of misfits who found the

1598
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 6: right home at Indiana. Why was this the right place.

1599
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 3: For this group?

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01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 9: Is the right place for process of orange it? We're

1601
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 9: going day by day? What is Afzalne? The defense, the

1602
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 9: coaches special teams. We're all probabs aren't.

1603
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 3: To one goal.

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01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 9: That's our thing is we're brothers. We can drag teams

1605
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 9: to the deep end because we know that we're gonna

1606
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 9: stick together and we have the strongest glue ever.

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01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 2: I love that kid.

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01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 3: I just yeah, it's hard not to.

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01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it really is.

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01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 3: I mean, like, as a coach, I imagine he's a dream right,

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 3: Like he's exactly what you would want. But yeah, I

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01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 3: just I don't have anything negative to say about him

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01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 3: at all. Like, just he's gonna, by the way, he's

1614
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 3: gonna win the Heisman.

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01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna ask you the time. Yeah, did you

1616
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: see it too?

1617
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 3: Or did did I clue you into it?

1618
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: I saw they swung the wrong direction early in the game.

1619
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: I did not see that they swung back in his direction.

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01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: Go ahead, tell the world what you sent me through.

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 3: Ut So, I think before the game he was plus

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: one twenty five him being Mendoza to win the Heisman.

1623
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 3: He's now minus what was I sent three thousand?

1624
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 2: Oh wow?

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01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 3: I think it was minus three thousand. So like I'm

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01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 3: talking big time favorite and Julian Sayan dropped all the

1627
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 3: way to fourth and like long shot. Number two is

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01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 3: Diego Pavia. So it looks like now Vegas is saying, yeah,

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01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Mendoza.

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 2: Would you have a problem if he wins it over Pavia?

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't be unhappy if either one of

1632
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 3: them did. I'd like to see Honestly, I would like

1633
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 3: to see Pavia because I don't know what Vanderbilt is

1634
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: without him at quarterback. Although they had a flip, they

1635
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 3: had a number two ranked guy in the top he

1636
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 3: picked Vanderbilt. He decommitted from Georgia and picked Vanderbilt. So

1637
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: again we're in the bizarro land at this point. But

1638
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 3: I feel like not getting into the college Football Playoff.

1639
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 3: If you're Vanderbilt, I'd love to see them get the

1640
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy for their quarterback at the very least. But

1641
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 3: I can't be upset if it goes to Mendoza. I

1642
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 3: really can't. I think either one of those two guys

1643
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,799
Speaker 3: is certainly worthy of that honor.

1644
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just talking in the back, and that's

1645
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: kind of my argument on Pavia is that Clark Lee

1646
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: gets this big extension to your point five star quarterback

1647
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 2: flips from Georgia to Vanderbilt and like, I think Clark

1648
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 2: Lee is a really good coach. I don't know that

1649
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: though right Signetti won everywhere he's ever been prior to

1650
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: Indiana won in Indiana last year without Fernando Mendoza. Clark

1651
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 2: Lee was not good before Diego Pavia showed up. And

1652
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 2: so I think the argument that I made is, I

1653
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: think you could argue that Diego Pavia is more synonymous,

1654
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: or you know, he's kind of the face of the

1655
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: of the operation there at least for now. I would

1656
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 2: still argue, as good as Mendoza is, that Indiana's face

1657
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: is Kurt Signetti. By the way, I'll say this, I'm

1658
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: not trying to trash the kid. I don't think Julian's

1659
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 2: saying like the schedule wasn't tough. It's Ohio State. You

1660
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: did what you had to do, awesome stats, you didn't

1661
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: play most of the top half of the Big Big ten.

1662
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: I think he's completely out. I think it's down to

1663
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Mendoza versus Pavia. I will say, I don't like that

1664
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: it's this way, but I know that votes weren't even

1665
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: allowed to be submitted until after the conference championship games.

1666
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna help guys that are playing and

1667
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: playing well in those and so yeah, Fernando Mendoza to me,

1668
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 2: I think ends up winning DIG.

1669
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: But you would go with Pavia. I just I think

1670
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 3: you can't go wrong either way. I think that's probably

1671
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 3: the fairest way.

1672
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 2: To say I'll have I would have to look deeper

1673
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: at the stats to to say anything definitive. I I

1674
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with if either one of

1675
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: them wins it, though next week, you know what I

1676
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: will have a problem with. I don't know if I

1677
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: have a problem with college football playoff rankings. So, uh,

1678
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: it is everything is final, and really we could go

1679
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: through all of it, but essentially the final two spots

1680
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: are going to be decided by four teams that work,

1681
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, kind of next to each other in the

1682
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: rankings going into the weekend. So Alabama was number nine,

1683
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: played in the SEC championship game. They not only lost,

1684
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: but it was really ugly. They were dominated. They lose

1685
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 2: twenty eight to seven to Georgia. It wasn't, frankly even

1686
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: competitive to your point, J Mart, Alabama's actually really kind

1687
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: of struggled the back half of the year. Seven point

1688
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: win in the Iron Bowl, two point lost to Oklahoma

1689
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: at home ugly eleven point win to LSU right after

1690
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: they fired Brian Kelly seven point win at South Carolina,

1691
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 2: a team that finished this season at four and eight overall.

1692
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: Bring all that up to say they are in the

1693
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: mix along with Notre Dame at number nine, along with

1694
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: BYU at Notre Dame. Excuse me as number ten. BYU,

1695
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 2: which lost in the Big Twelve championship game, is eleven.

1696
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 2: Miami is at twelve. Notre Dame in Miami were at

1697
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 2: home on Saturday, they of course played earlier in the season.

1698
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: Miami has the head to head win. You know, let's

1699
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: put about on this because we're only on for another

1700
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 2: forty eight or forty two minutes, fifty two minutes. I guess,

1701
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 2: where do you think the committee goes on Saturday? On Sunday?

1702
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: And where would you go on Sunday if you were

1703
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: a one person committee.

1704
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 3: I think that the committee is And look, we've had

1705
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,480
Speaker 3: a discussions that we've kind of thrown out different scenarios

1706
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: and maybe talked about what we think should happen based

1707
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 3: on what we are seeing and all this other kind

1708
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: of stuff. I feel like Miami is gonna be left

1709
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 3: on the outside I feel like the likelihood will be

1710
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: it'll be Alabama and Notre Dame. Even though I think

1711
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 3: that that head to head should matter, I don't see

1712
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: a universe where they're gonna flip Miami over Notre Dame.

1713
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: I think it would have to be. And look, this

1714
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 3: is something that that kind of came out today and

1715
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman even said it during halftime in the Big

1716
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 3: Ten Championship when he was on with the Big New

1717
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 3: and Kickoff. Guys. What we have not really known throughout

1718
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 3: the course of the season but has come kind of

1719
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: to fruious. They have not been looking at Miami and

1720
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 3: Notre Dame. They've been looking at Alabama and Notre Dame.

1721
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 3: They've been comparing those two teams to one another. So

1722
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 3: if you look at it from that perspective, I feel

1723
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 3: like they're already looking at it where Miami was gonna

1724
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 3: have to find a way to play their way in

1725
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 3: and I don't know that they did that. So I

1726
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: think what you could see and what some are predicting

1727
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 3: is even though last week you saw that flip where

1728
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 3: Alabama flipped over Notre Dame, this week they'll flip them

1729
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 3: back and Notre Dame will be nine, and Alabama will

1730
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 3: be ten, Miami will be eleven, and BYU will be twelve.

1731
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 3: That's what I think is probably going to happen.

1732
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll go through. And I mentioned this last hour,

1733
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 2: so forgive me Jamark because I know you've heard this spield,

1734
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,879
Speaker 2: but for our audience that has not heard it, Miami

1735
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 2: or Alabama was at number nine, Notre Dame was at ten,

1736
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 2: BYU eleven, Miami twelve coming into today. My thought process

1737
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 2: all week, for people who did not don't follow the

1738
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: rankings on a day to day week tweak basis, Alabama

1739
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: was moved up a spot to number nine. They actually

1740
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 2: got a head of Notre Dame this week, and my

1741
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: thought process was the committee wanted to put Alabama in

1742
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: a position where even if they lost on Saturday, they

1743
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: would not be punished. Obviously, if they are behind Notre Dame,

1744
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 2: you can't then jump them if they lose. If they

1745
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: were to lose, you could say, hey, they were already

1746
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 2: ahead of Notre Dame, We're not gonna punish them. I

1747
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 2: also thought that with BYU in between Notre Dame and Miami,

1748
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 2: if b why you lost, then you could be in

1749
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 2: a scenario where Miami moves up a spot, B WHYU

1750
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: drops the spot. Then you could compare Notre Dame in

1751
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 2: Miami head to head and give Miami the edge with

1752
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 2: the with the head to head win. Where I think

1753
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 2: it gets complicated. And keep in mind the committee could

1754
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: do whatever it wants, but I think it gets complicated

1755
01:30:54,120 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 2: where if you don't move Alabama, it does seem weird

1756
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: that you would move BYU. So, in other words, Alabama

1757
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 2: would be in in this scenario, and the argument would

1758
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: be you're not gonna punish them for losing in a

1759
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 2: conference championship game. Then it's hard to explain moving BYU.

1760
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 2: And if you move BYU, which would then move Miami

1761
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: up a spot, then you could conceivably put Miami in

1762
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: Notre Dame head to head. Then it just looks like

1763
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: you're looking for a reason to put Miami in. So

1764
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 2: I have kind of talked myself out of one conversation

1765
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 2: and into another. Coming into today, I thought Alabama would

1766
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: be in No matter what I thought, the committee would

1767
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: find a way to compare Miami in Notre Dame and

1768
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 2: give Miami the edge. I don't know how they can

1769
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: do both. I think you either have to drop Alabama

1770
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: and BYU and put Notre Dame in Miami in or

1771
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 2: you have to keep or not you have to keep

1772
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 2: Alabama and BYU, which both lost today, in the same spot,

1773
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 2: and then you cannot move Miami. So I tend to

1774
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,799
Speaker 2: feel like Alabama Notre Dame are the final two spots

1775
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: really quickly. Let me ask you this, and I think

1776
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 2: you kind of just reference this, But if we do

1777
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 2: get to a world where Notre Dame gets into the

1778
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: playoff ahead of Miami, would you have a fundamental issue

1779
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 2: with that?

1780
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Yes? Ooh, okay again, Like I feel like the head

1781
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 3: to head should matter, and I'm not gonna be okay

1782
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 3: with the world where you finished with the same record,

1783
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 3: and Mario Chrispaul has made this argument multiple times this week. Look,

1784
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 3: we have the same record, same metrics too, Like if

1785
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 3: you actually look across the board at like there are

1786
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 3: records in certain things, they have some common opponents and

1787
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 3: all these it's very very close between the two of them.

1788
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 3: But one team beat the other one this year, and

1789
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 3: so I feel like Notre Dame's the one that should

1790
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 3: be left out. Even if I believe Notre Dame is

1791
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 3: the better team, I think that what happened on the

1792
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 3: field needs to matter across the board, and if Notre

1793
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 3: Dame gets in over Miami, I think that you are

1794
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 3: you are discrediting head to head. Now, yes, Miami lost

1795
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 3: and had to had a couple of bad losses. They

1796
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 3: lost to two unranked teams in Louisville and SMU by

1797
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 3: the end of the year. Those teams were ranked at

1798
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 3: different times there in a year, but obviously didn't finish

1799
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 3: that way. So you could look to other things to

1800
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 3: explain it. But I feel like the purest way to

1801
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 3: do it would be to leave Notre Dame out and

1802
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 3: put Miami in. But I think that that precedent should

1803
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 3: have already been set by potentially having Miami ahead of

1804
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 3: Notre Dame going into this week. I don't know how

1805
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 3: you can leap frog them now. I don't know. There's

1806
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: just it's too much of a mess that I think

1807
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Miami will be left out, But I think Notre Dame

1808
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 3: is the one that should be left out because of

1809
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 3: the head to head.

1810
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's tough, And that's part of why

1811
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 2: I actually didn't think coming into today that Notre Dame

1812
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: would get in is because it becomes this weird great

1813
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 2: area of basically eye test, right, an I test is

1814
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 2: not really a measurement now in theory when it gets

1815
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 2: the at large teams, it is just who do you

1816
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 2: think are the best teams? And then you have all

1817
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,759
Speaker 2: these other criteria head to head league this that whatever

1818
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 2: overall record, whatever I guess, I don't know how I

1819
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 2: feel is that, like I do think Notre Dame is

1820
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: clearly playing better. You know, we asked all.

1821
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 3: The credit to Miami against pitt I mean Miami's last

1822
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 3: game compared to Notre Dame's last game. Just if you

1823
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 3: want to look at recency, the lasting impression. Notre Dame

1824
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 3: beat a bad Stanford team, but Miami went on the

1825
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 3: road in the cold to Pittsburgh and beat the trash

1826
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 3: off of the Panthers.

1827
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good thing. By the remember when Pat and Ardoozy said,

1828
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: we don't care if we lose by one hundreds of

1829
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 2: Notre Dame as long as we went out in the

1830
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 2: acc He then proceeded to get destroyed by Notre Dame

1831
01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: or by Miami ten this season. Yeah, I just I

1832
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 2: don't know, I really don't. And you know, it's just

1833
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what else thereous to say, I just

1834
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 2: the one thing I still don't think, and I might

1835
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 2: be wrong on this, I don't think Alabama will be

1836
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: punished for being in a conference championship game. Now you

1837
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 2: can debate should they be. Are they one of the

1838
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 2: you know seven best at large candidates? Do you take

1839
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 2: the totality of the back half of the year where

1840
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 2: they really didn't play well in conjunction with what we

1841
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,480
Speaker 2: saw Saturday. I think there are actually plenty of arguments

1842
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: to make that Alabama should not be in. That is

1843
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: the one that I do feel comfortable saying. I do

1844
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 2: feel like Alabama will get one of those spots.

1845
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

1846
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't think we have a world where it's Notre

1847
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: Dame and Miami Alabama gets left home. I just don't

1848
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 2: think it's it's a precedent the committee wants to set.

1849
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: Do you think it should No, I actually don't, And

1850
01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 2: I think it's because you know, it's because of what

1851
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier in the show, which is for

1852
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 2: people who don't know, four teams finished atop the SEC

1853
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: standings with one loss piece. It was Alabama Georgia who

1854
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 2: played today in Old Miss Texas A and M and

1855
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 2: so by happenstance Alabama quote unquote, I'm using air quotes

1856
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 2: won the tie break. If they had quote unquote lost

1857
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: the tie break and it was Old miss or A

1858
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: and M there and Alabama's just sitting at home. Alabama's

1859
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 2: not falling. And by the way, I don't think there's

1860
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: a world where either Old miss Or Texas A and

1861
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: M would have come into this game and if they

1862
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 2: played really bad, would have been eliminated from the College

1863
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: Football Playoff. I guess maybe with the Kiffin stuff, you know, whatever,

1864
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, I guess maybe there's a world, right, But

1865
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: there were four teams that finished with one loss in

1866
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 2: SEC play. Obviously Alabama has the ugly loss to Florida State,

1867
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 2: I get that, but I just bring it up to

1868
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: say that I don't think any of the other three

1869
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 2: would have been a limit from the College Football Playoff

1870
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 2: for losing today, including Georgia, and so I don't think

1871
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: Alabama should be because they happened to again air quotes,

1872
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 2: win the tie break and end up in Atlanta and

1873
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 2: end up on the wrong side of it. And I

1874
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 2: don't think it's like a precedent thing. I just think

1875
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 2: it's a like frankly like a quote unquote fairness thing.

1876
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 2: I remember. I'll tell you a quick side story. I

1877
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 2: remember years ago filling in with Arnie Spanier. You know,

1878
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: one of these nights, it might have been like a

1879
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 2: night like tonight. It might have been I think it

1880
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 2: was during bowl season, and Arnie just was going on

1881
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 2: about we need to expand the playoff. This sucks, why

1882
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 2: are we playing these bowl games whatever? And I said

1883
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: to him, I said, well, what do you do with

1884
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: the conference championships? He said, We'll just leave them. Why

1885
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 2: what do you mean? And I gave him the example.

1886
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 2: I said, teams are going to go to conference championship games,

1887
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,719
Speaker 2: lose them, and they're going to be compared to teams

1888
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 2: in their own conference who didn't have to go. And

1889
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 2: so it's not necessarily a precedent thing to me of like,

1890
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 2: if you do this now, what does it mean for

1891
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 2: the future. I just think it's a very simple. If

1892
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Alabama had lost the tie break and was at home,

1893
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 2: and Texas A and M was there, Alabama's not gonna

1894
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 2: be punished for it. So because they won the tie break,

1895
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 2: I don't think that they should be punished for being

1896
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 2: there in Atlanta today.

1897
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 3: Okay, So I tend like that was kind of my

1898
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 3: perspective during the course of the game. I just I

1899
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 3: think this is the big problem overall with this, and

1900
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any disagreement, so we don't need

1901
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 3: to talk about this for very long. But the conference

1902
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 3: title games and then what's the point? So what's the

1903
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 3: point for Alabama to play in a game anyway? Like

1904
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 3: there's no reason to. I'd forfeit. I wouldn't play my starters.

1905
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 3: The only thing you can possibly do is get somebody

1906
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 3: hurt in that situation. If I'm already in, then it

1907
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 3: should be like the Pro Bowl, like yeah, thanks, thanks

1908
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 3: for the honor, but you can let the next guy

1909
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 3: go and let a team that wants to try and

1910
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: earn their way in or whatever. I don't know. They

1911
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 3: need to be gone. They're ridiculous. It doesn't make any

1912
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 3: sense whatsoever. It just needs to be based on your

1913
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 3: regular season. We don't need to have this game like

1914
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 3: BYU having to win their way to get in. No,

1915
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 3: like they should either have done what they needed to

1916
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 3: do during the regular season or is Texas Tech. And

1917
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 3: then it becomes whatever decisions you want to make. Looking

1918
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 3: for those that large bids these conference championship games just

1919
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 3: shouldn't be played because this argument then doesn't exist, the

1920
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 3: argument of well, they would Miami or Notre Dame also

1921
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 3: have an extra loss if they played Georgia today, The

1922
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 3: answer is probably yes. This is a dumb way to

1923
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 3: decide anything, Like, there's no purpose in this at all,

1924
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 3: and the schools then need to give up whatever money

1925
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 3: it is that they are receiving individually for these games.

1926
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 3: Find a different way to raise money. I swear you

1927
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 3: guys make enough, Like, let's stop having these games that

1928
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 3: are just confusing the issue if we're not going to

1929
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 3: punish the loser of the conference championship game. And I

1930
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: don't necessarily disagree with that point, because they're playing an

1931
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 3: extra they're playing an extra game. Not only are they

1932
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 3: playing an extra game, they're almost certainly going to be

1933
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 3: playing a very good team YEP in that extra game,

1934
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 3: so it's going to be a potentially great win. But

1935
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 3: the loss then, if it's not gonna have any impact,

1936
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 3: there is absolutely no reason to play these games whatsoever.

1937
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing we'll wrap on and then we

1938
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 2: got to get to some NFL finally is I do

1939
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 2: think the one thing with Alabama you can argue two

1940
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 2: things with Bama. Actually is one, as we've talked about,

1941
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 2: they have not played well the back half.

1942
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 3: Of the year.

1943
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 2: But then two, the loss to Florida State probably should

1944
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 2: be factored in somewhere. But then again, the lost to

1945
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: Florida State also actually doesn't matter because they were in

1946
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 2: the playoff field with the loss to Florida State coming

1947
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 2: into this week, and so in theory, the Florida State

1948
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 2: loss actually should have matter at all. But I don't

1949
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 2: know if that should have been factored in more. I

1950
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, I just I don't know. I

1951
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 2: could go on and on. I actually would. I think

1952
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: there's arguments against pretty much everybody of those groups, but

1953
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 2: I I don't think Alabama is gonna be left out.

1954
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 2: So Fox Sports Radio Aer Tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live

1955
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We will come back.

1956
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 2: I guess we'll talk a little. NFL Week fourteen, Bengals, Bills, Steelers, Ravens.

1957
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: A lot of good football still to come this weekend.

1958
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 2: Air Tours Jason Martin, Fox Sports Rady, Welcome back, everybody.

1959
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

1960
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 2: the Fox sports radio studios want to get to Week

1961
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 2: fourteen of the NFL A couple of really big games

1962
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 2: on Sunday before we do though final time this evening.

1963
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 2: Let's get it over the news desk, Steve de Seger,

1964
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:41,719
Speaker 2: what is trying.

1965
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 8: To you know, the game that's gonna keep Duke out

1966
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 8: of the College Football Playoffs Conference champion They.

1967
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 2: Lost to Yukon. Well, that's actually probably not inaccurate.

1968
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 8: I mean that, and then lost to Virginia the next week,

1969
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 8: and they were five and five just a few weeks ago.

1970
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 8: After those two results, I will point out loudly in

1971
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 8: mid September, Duke lost at Tulane if you've heard of

1972
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 8: that school, as we had toured the playoff selection on Sunday.

1973
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 8: Duke eight and five now did win the ACC Championship

1974
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 8: tonight in overtime at number seventeen Virginia twenty seven to twenty.

1975
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 8: Duke football in the early sixties apparently won the ACC

1976
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 8: three straight years. They had not won it outrights since

1977
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 8: then since the early sixties. They had tied for first

1978
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 8: in nineteen eighty nine, and they had won a division

1979
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 8: title about a decade ago, and here they win a

1980
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 8: championship game tonight, scoring a touchdown in overtime and then

1981
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 8: intercepting Virginia on the next play to end it in Charlotte,

1982
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 8: where attendance was just forty one thousand. Virginia had tied

1983
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 8: this game on a touchdown with under thirty seconds left

1984
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 8: in regulation, So unranked Duke winning makes it possible for

1985
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 8: two smaller conference teams to make the playoffs and no

1986
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 8: ACC team Indiana is thirteen to oh after beating number

1987
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 8: one Ohio State thirteen to ten to take the Big

1988
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 8: Ten Crown. Notable in the second half and the buck

1989
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 8: Guys offense, it drove down inside the ten yard line

1990
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 8: twice and got no points. Number three Georgia over Alabama

1991
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 8: twenty eight to seven in the SEC championship game. Georgia

1992
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 8: led twenty one to nothing early third quarter. Fourth ranked

1993
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 8: Texas Tech went BYU about a month ago at home

1994
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,879
Speaker 8: and beat him thirty four to seven in Arlington, Texas

1995
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 8: today for the Big twelve title. In Detroit, Western Michigan

1996
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 8: won the MAC Championship twenty three to thirteen over Miami, Ohio.

1997
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,879
Speaker 8: Keep in mind, not only do we have selection Sunday

1998
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 8: coming when all the playoff teams will be named and

1999
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 8: all the bowl matchups come out. College Football's playoffs has

2000
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 8: first round at campus sites. It will start with a

2001
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 8: Friday night game about a week before Christmas, and then

2002
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 8: the other three games will be on Saturday, December twentieth.

2003
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,799
Speaker 8: Although I didn't notice, the NFL made sure to announce

2004
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 8: they've got a couple of games on that Saturday as well.

2005
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 8: The Ramseean McVay is due to coach Sunday at Arizona,

2006
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 8: but he traveled there separately due to illness. Charger quarterback

2007
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 8: Justin Herbert, with the broken left hand, is questionable for

2008
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 8: Monday Night against the Eagles. The team was OPTI mystic

2009
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 8: that Herbert can play. He has been able to practice

2010
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 8: on a limited basis this past week. He does have

2011
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 8: yet to take snaps from under center, something he could

2012
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 8: not do last Sunday after the injury.

2013
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 3: Either.

2014
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 8: Chargers first round running back Omar and Hampton practice fully

2015
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 8: again today. He broke an ankle in Week five, and

2016
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,799
Speaker 8: Charger running back Hassan Haskins is officially questionable but practice

2017
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 8: fully for Philadelphia. They'll be missing on Monday, tackle Lane

2018
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 8: Johnson and defensive tackle Jalen Carter due to injuries. Miami

2019
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 8: won the MLS Cup Final three to one over Vancouver,

2020
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 8: NHL Florida seven to six overtime winners against Columbus. In

2021
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 8: college hoops, we had a game tie the largest home

2022
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 8: loss ever by a number one ranked team. Purdue was

2023
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 8: beaten at home eighty one fifty eight by tenth ranked

2024
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 8: Iowa State number two Arizona dominated Auburn ninety seven sixty eight. Tonight,

2025
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 8: Duke won at Michigan State Louisville over Indiana, Illinois, beat Tennessee, Washington,

2026
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 8: upset USC Sacramento, Zach Levine with forty two points in

2027
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 8: a win at Miami. Also in the Detroit is nineteen

2028
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 8: to five after beating Milwaukee. And a reminder that eight

2029
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 8: former ballplayers are on the Contemporary Baseball Era Hall of

2030
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 8: Fame ballot and voting results will be announced Sunday night.

2031
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 8: This is not the Baseball Writers. This is a small

2032
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 8: committee that will consider on the ballot. Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens,

2033
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:25,919
Speaker 8: Gary Sheffield, Don Mattingly, Jeff Kent. This is all happening tomorrow.

2034
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 8: Dale Murphy up for the Hall, Carlos Carlos Delgado and

2035
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 8: Fernando Vevenezuela. We'll find out the results tomorrow evening back

2036
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 8: to you.

2037
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 3: So Dale Murphy and some other.

2038
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 8: Guys Fernando Valenzuela to kind of have a career for

2039
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 8: a few years there, but it will be since this

2040
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 8: is not the baseball writers who obviously have said no

2041
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 8: to Clemens and Bonds for years.

2042
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 2: This is not them.

2043
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,600
Speaker 8: This is a completely different crew, including four more players

2044
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 8: going at it.

2045
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 2: Well, the Sega have a great evening. Will you be

2046
01:45:58,200 --> 01:45:59,839
Speaker 2: back in tomorrow with the fellas.

2047
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 8: Betcha as Arnie celebrates his number one ranked Arizona Wildcats.

2048
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 2: Nine and three.

2049
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 7: Go.

2050
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 2: By the way, you know the argument for BYU oh

2051
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 2: them being anybody? Well, Utah and Arizona. Yes, the Arizona

2052
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 2: football team are both top twenty wins according to the

2053
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 2: teen and eighteen. Right, I believe so.

2054
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,719
Speaker 8: Ya so well in Texas Tech every win this year

2055
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 8: by more than twenty one points, twelve and one. They

2056
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 8: won at Utah they dominated byu twice.

2057
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, the only loss I think

2058
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 2: you referenced it earlier, starting quarterback was not available.

2059
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 8: Correctly at Asu, and even then it took a last

2060
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:35,679
Speaker 8: minute touchdown to beat them.

2061
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're one that I think there's somebody

2062
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 2: maybe what's that.

2063
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 3: Test case right there for what for what we're about

2064
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 3: to see. I'm like, we talked about this before the season.

2065
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 3: This was going to be kind of everybody was going

2066
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 3: to watch this. This works, we're going to start seeing

2067
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 3: it everywhere, and we're going to start seeing it everywhere.

2068
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 2: Well, I will say that was a funny byproduct of

2069
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 2: this week of all the coaching jobs. You know, Lane

2070
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 2: Kiffin gets LSU, Matt Campbell gets Penn State, Yeah, yeah,

2071
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 2: Kalon Sataki stays at BYU. All of those schools have

2072
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 2: committed more money to NIL than is, by rule, legally allowed.

2073
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's just comical.

2074
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 8: Is that what you're saying that nobody's actually in charge.

2075
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 3: Of the NCAA.

2076
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 2: Well, there are people in charge, it's just nobody plays

2077
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 2: by the rules that they've put into place. So uh,

2078
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 2: nobody's in charge.

2079
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 3: So there's no rules basically exactly.

2080
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 2: It was so funny when they came out with this

2081
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 2: this revshare, you know, house settlement. Everyone's gonna spend twenty

2082
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 2: and a half million. It was like, you know, Alabama's

2083
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,879
Speaker 2: ad Greg oh, this is a great day for college sports,

2084
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 2: and dah da da, and I was like no one's

2085
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,799
Speaker 2: gonna abide by this cap. You can't put a ceiling

2086
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 2: on what people are willing to pay for people. But

2087
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 2: to Jay Mart's point, if Texas Tech was a disaster,

2088
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 2: that probably would have been a good you know, cautionary

2089
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 2: cautionary tale is the perfect way that I'm looking for.

2090
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 8: Now, what softball already made the final? Football could make

2091
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 8: the final? That Flex department is rolling in it.

2092
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 2: Well, Texas Tech basketball made the Elite eight last year too, so.

2093
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 8: You remember when they made the final not that long.

2094
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pre nil although I'm guessing maybe there

2095
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 2: was some nil then too, But anyway, neither here nor there,

2096
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 2: So all right to say, we'll listen to you tomorrow

2097
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:28,520
Speaker 2: with the guys, including Arnie Spanner, whose basketball team is unbeatable.

2098
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 3: The guys and Arnie Spanier.

2099
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the gentleman and Arnie Spanner. The gentleman, Chris Plank

2100
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: and Arnie Spank. All right, thank you to Seger. I'll

2101
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:40,719
Speaker 2: tell you what. Let's do a quick little abbreviated Week

2102
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 2: fourteen NFL preview. A couple interesting games, Mary, give us

2103
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 2: some music as you have, Thank you, Ian. What games

2104
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 2: we talked about today?

2105
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's start with this, The Chicago Bears are going

2106
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 10: to Lambeau to take on the Packers. Big spread here,

2107
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 10: the Packers are favored by seven points as the home team,

2108
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 10: but the Bears are still leading that division.

2109
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 2: Who you guys got I'll just say seven points feels

2110
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 2: like an awful lot. But I understand this concept of

2111
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 2: people are still doubting the Bears, I guess, But I

2112
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 2: mean they're literally nine and one in their last ten

2113
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 2: and they just shoved the ball down the Eagles throat,

2114
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: and so I guess the argument would be Caleb Williams

2115
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 2: on the road division game. You know, for as good

2116
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 2: as the Bears have been, Caleb obviously has been a

2117
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 2: little bit up and down. I don't want to do

2118
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 2: the whole like, are you really betting against the Bears?

2119
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 2: But they have won nine of their last ten. I

2120
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 2: guess I'll take green Bay to win. But if I

2121
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: was making a betting pick, seven points feels like way

2122
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 2: too many for a Lions team that has won five

2123
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: straight and nine of their last ten. Bears team Bears team. Now,

2124
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 2: why do I keep saying Lions? I got the Lions

2125
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 2: on my brain, But Bears team that have won nine

2126
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 2: of least ten so I think the.

2127
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 3: Packers are gonna win. This just feels like one of

2128
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 3: those where it's not about betting against the Bears or

2129
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 3: anything else. It's just I feel like Matt Lafleu and

2130
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 3: the Packers really kind of want to make a statement

2131
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 3: in this game, and they've got it at home. I

2132
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,600
Speaker 3: feel like they're going to make a statement win this

2133
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 3: by two touchdowns. I do think the Bears. I think

2134
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 3: the Bears are as legit as you just said. At

2135
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 3: the same time, I just and I'm not even that

2136
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,759
Speaker 3: big a fan of the Packers, I just think this matchup,

2137
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go with my my gut feeling, which

2138
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Speaker 3: is that the Packers are gonna win this handily.

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Speaker 2: Really quick. Before we get to the next game, we Aly,

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Speaker 2: we're unlimited time. Bears still have the Packers twice, plus

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Speaker 2: the Lions at home. Green Bay obviously plays the Bears twice,

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Speaker 2: but they have no games left against the Lions, who

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01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 2: they swept this year. Who do you think actually wins

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01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 2: the division? Green Bay, by the way, I guess a

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01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,679
Speaker 2: half a game back tied in the lost column, they.

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Speaker 3: I think Detroit is still gonna win the division.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, two games back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're still going to win the division.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay Detroit. By the way, they're zero to two

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Speaker 2: against Green Bay this season. They still have a game

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01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 2: at Chicago and then in the division they also have

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01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings as well.

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Speaker 3: That's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: All right, what do we got ian? What's the next game?

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Speaker 2: All Right?

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Speaker 10: The six and six Steelers are going to Baltimore to

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01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 10: take on the six and six Ravens. So this is, uh,

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01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 10: someone's coming out of this above five hundred, someone's coming

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01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:21,719
Speaker 10: out of it below five hundred.

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Speaker 2: But what do you guys, what do you guys think?

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Speaker 2: Who's who?

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Speaker 3: Man? I'll tell you man. My take is starting to

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01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 3: age like age like fine wine that this was going

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01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 3: to be the year that Tomlin didn't finished with a

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Speaker 3: winning record, because this Steelers team just doesn't look good

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Speaker 3: right now at all. They they just look like they

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01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 3: are looking for a reason for this season to be over.

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Speaker 3: I still look, we had the Ravens and the Lions,

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Speaker 3: or you didn't have the lines, I don't think, but

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Speaker 3: you had the Ravens winning the Super Bowl, and so

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Speaker 3: did I. I still think there's probably a universe where

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Speaker 3: they get into the playoffs and they gotta win this game. No,

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01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 3: this is like knockout City right here. I think they will.

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Speaker 3: I think that the Steelers are completely fugazy and this

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Speaker 3: is going to be the.

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Speaker 2: Last tour rack right here, really quick. I'm a little

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Speaker 2: confused on this. So Adam Scheffer out a report today

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Speaker 2: the Steelers are not going to fire Mike Tomlin, but

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Speaker 2: he has a team option for twenty twenty seven that

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Speaker 2: they have to pick up by March first, So, like,

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Speaker 2: is he going to be coaching for his job next year?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 6: Is he?

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Speaker 2: I don't like. If I'm Mike Tomlin, am I fired

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Speaker 2: up to come back on a one year contract? If

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Speaker 2: they don't, I guess you don't really have a choice

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Speaker 2: at that point because it'll be in March. But just

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just weird, like you're either I

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01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 2: don't know. It's like a college coach that has one

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Speaker 2: year left on his contract. Do you either extend him

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01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 2: or you let him go? It just feels weird to me,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just.

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Speaker 3: Hey, man, if you are Stephen A. Smith, you already

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Speaker 3: believe that if he goes to pen if he went

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01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 3: to Penn State, he could completely turn them around immediately. Oh,

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Speaker 3: and I thought's why why would you say that? Like

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01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 3: that doesn't even make sense because he also said that

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Speaker 3: that he needs to be gone from Pittsburgh. So I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure how those two takes actually coincide or not.

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01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 3: If I'm Tomlin, I think I'm about ready to go

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. Like I think it's time for a change

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01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 3: of scenery for all involved here. And I think the

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01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers experiment just has gone about as well as

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01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 3: we thought it would. It started okay, but it wasn't

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Speaker 3: gonna last really quick.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, if there's one place, and I

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01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 2: know Penn State now as a coach, like the one

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01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 2: fan base that wouldn't be fired up to have Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin as their college coach is the one whose fans

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01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 2: have been watching him for the last fifteen years as

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Speaker 2: their NFL head coach. So like like if Mike Tomlin

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01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 2: the had gotten like the Florida job, like Florida fans

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01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 2: could talk themselves into it, Penn State fans have been

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01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 2: watching the Steelers for the last fifteen years and probably

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01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 2: want him to leave as the coach of that team.

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01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what we have, Like literally one

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01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 2: minute what's the last game. We'll just make a pick

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01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 2: real quick.

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01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, Bengals are going to or two Park to take

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01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 10: on the Bills. The Bills are favored by six points

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01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 10: here as the home team. What do you guys think?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Got you? I don't know. I don't like either

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01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 3: one of these teams on a regular basis having to

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01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 3: pick them in a regular season. But I'll take the

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01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 3: Bills at home.

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will too. Bengals haven't played great, great performance

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01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving Day. They're only two games back in that division.

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01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 2: I know, it's weird. I mean, that's why Burrow came

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01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: back was because mathematically they were still alive. Yeah, I'll

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01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 2: take Buffalo at home. I don't feel good about it though.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's weekend Week fourteen of the NFL come Back.

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Speaker 2: One segment left Fox.

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Air, Torus. Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio Weekends wherever you get podcasts,

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Speaker 2: off air. J Mart, I think we pretty much covered

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01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: the gauntlet on college football, but I will ask you

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01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: for a final time. Twelve team playoff two teams for

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01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 2: four teams for two spots. Number nine Alabama number ten,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame number eleven, BYU number twelve. Miami. Who gets in?

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Speaker 3: Alabama and Notre Dame we're gonna get in. Miami's gonna

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01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 3: be left out BYU will be left out. Also, I

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01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 3: think the head to head is going to be the

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01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 3: thing that gets lost here, and I think that's a

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01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 3: shame because I don't really believe that's the way there

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Speaker 3: should be, even if I think Notre Dame is the

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Speaker 3: better team, Miami's the one that won the game Alabama.

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Speaker 3: I saw EJ. Manual on TV a little bit ago

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01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 3: and he said, you know, Alabama really didn't help themselves

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01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 3: on Saturday, but they didn't need to help themselves because

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01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 3: they were already in sure. That to me is the problem.

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01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that you can knock them out if

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01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 3: they were already in because you made them play a game.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you know Miami couldn't play in it

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01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 3: because of what was going on with their ACC title game,

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01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 3: Plus their opponent wasn't going to be Georgia. But here's

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01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 3: the other thing. Notre Dame couldn't play in a conference

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01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 3: championship game, so they're never going to have to play

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01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,919
Speaker 3: that game in order to find their way into the tournament,

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01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 3: to find their way into the College Football Playoff. I

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01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 3: think with that being the case, it just I don't

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01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 3: see a universe where the conference championship game is going

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01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 3: to be the thing that gets sacrificed on the altar

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01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 3: here by the College Football Committee. I think that we're

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01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 3: going this is going to be the easy street to

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01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 3: the sixteen team playoffs, sooner rather than later. I think

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01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 3: it'll be argued before the end of Sunday, probably by

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 3: Greg Sanki, and maybe others will join them. But Sanki

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01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 3: for sure is going to and Bama fans I think

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01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 3: that it needs to happen because this has gotten so

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01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 3: close to happening. But I don't think that Bama is

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01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 3: going to drop out, even if personally watching it. It's

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01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 3: hard to watch that game and watch the last four

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01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: or five games that Alabama has played and feel like

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01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 3: that looks like a playoff team, especially when you add

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01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 3: in a five and seven Florida State team that they

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01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 3: got beaten pretty handily by to open the season. But

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Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen. Pama's going to get in,

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01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 3: Notre Dame is going to get in. Miami will be

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Speaker 3: left out.

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Speaker 2: So I actually agree with you, And my argument coming

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01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 2: into today was that I thought Alabama will be in

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01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 2: no matter what, and then Notre Dame BYU and Miami

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01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 2: BYU will lose, They'll be dropped, and then you can

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01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 2: compare Notre Dame head to head to Miami. I think

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01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 2: the issue becomes, I don't know how you don't drop

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01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: Alabama for losing in a conference championship game, but do

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01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 2: drop BYU. So I will say final answer, I will

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01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: have Alabama and Notre Dame in the playoff as well.

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Speaker 2: Really quickly. We won't be on air before the Heisman

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01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: Trophy ceremony. Do you have a final pick for the

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01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy next Saturday night?

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Speaker 3: Mendoza, I think so too, yep, I just I think

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01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 3: that one's that one's pretty easy. I think him and

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01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 3: Pavia and it'll be them one and two. It'll be

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01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 3: a nice It'll still be really nice to Pavia finish

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01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 3: this runner up coming from Vanderbilt and being part of

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Speaker 3: that ceremony and everything else. But I think Mendoza and

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Speaker 3: just doing what he did here against Ohio State. Not

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01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 3: really I mean, he didn't have to do everything, but

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Speaker 3: his numbers are pretty good. He outplayed another Heisman contender

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Speaker 3: in that game, and that, you know, in front of

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Speaker 3: a national audience. I think that that's going to carry

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Speaker 3: a lot of weight and he'll win it. He'll win it.

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Speaker 2: So we all got about a minute, but I will

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Speaker 2: give you the floor any strong takes on Penn State

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01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 2: hiring Matt Campbell and the process that it took to

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01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 2: get there.

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01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 3: Process has been terrible. I think that they ended up

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01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 3: maybe with a better coach than you thought they were

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01:58:58,040 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 3: going to with all the people that were saying no,

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Speaker 3: and maybe Jimmy Sexton. You know, Matt Campbell's not a

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01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 3: Jimmy Sexton client, so that helps out because anybody that

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01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 3: was basically said no, and there's all that talk that

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01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 3: he basically had all of his clients black ball Pit State.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, but it's a fun

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01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory. Matt Campbell a lot of people compare his

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 3: record against the top twenty five to James Franklin's. Well,

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Speaker 3: first off, it's a little better than James Franklin's. Second off,

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Speaker 3: the level of talent that Iowa State had on the

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01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 3: field should be factored in as well. I still think

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Speaker 3: Matt Campbell's a pretty good coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called Iowa State. That's why the win loss

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01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 2: record isn't good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with everything you said. I don't know

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01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 2: why they didn't just go to him sooner. You know,

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01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't think Kolonie Sataki was ever coming. You know,

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01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 2: all these other guys got extensions. But I think that,

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01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, you can take the wrong path to get

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01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 2: to the right place. I actually like Matt Campbell a

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01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 2: lot for the Penn State and nine Lions. All right,

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01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we got to get out of here.

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01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, Mary Mack on the boards,

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01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 2: producer Ian's Steve di Sega from my partner Jason Martin,

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02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 2: I am eron Torres. Make sure to download the podcast

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02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 2: By the way, make sure to stay tuned. Bernie Fratto

2347
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 2: up next and count down to kickoff at ten am

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02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 2: Eastern will get you through the bracket reveal at noon

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Speaker 2: Eastern on Sunday. We got to get out of here.

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