1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: m Ward. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm just playing long with you. I'm just playing alone 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: with you. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: Hi. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: I am Nora. Welcome to the show with me, as 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: always is Sarah Oda. Hello, Hi, Hi. This was a 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: fun one, very fun. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 4: But before we get into it, we just want to 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 4: say thank you to our listeners and we hope you 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 4: like what you're hearing and have been introduced to artists 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 4: that you maybe didn't know, or learn something new about 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 4: an artist that you do know. 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you do like it, please like and subscribe, 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: like us, Please like us. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 4: Okay, our guest today. He's the great singer, songwriter, guitar. 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Player m Ward, or as you would call him, I 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: call him Matt. I've known him forever. We used to 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: tour together. I think on my second or third record 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: we did a whole long tour, so we got some history. 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you been everywhere with him. He's put out several 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: albums over the past twenty plus years, both as a 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: solo artist but also as half of She and Him 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 4: with Zoe Deschanel, and also he's a part of Monsters 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 4: of Folk, a group with Jim James Connor. Oberst, Mike Mogus, 26 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: and Will Johnson. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: His new album is amazing. You guys should check it out, 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: titled Supernatural Thing, and we're going to do some songs 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: from it. So I hope you enjoyed the episode with 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: m wort stay tuned. 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 5: So many songs we could do here, Naura, I know 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: where should we begin? 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: Well? I think I love your new album thank You. 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I would love to start with Lifeline. 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: Let's do it. That's a great song, Let's do it, 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 5: thank You. Yeah, I'm going to try that guitar. Yeah, okay, 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 5: it's in this new tuning. Okay, see, but a lot 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: of guitars don't like going down too because the low 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: he goes down to a sea, which it's pretty low. 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: It can be flappy, but it sometimes creates a cool flap. 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: I know how you like that string buzz I love it. 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I know you love it. 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 5: I think this guitar will be just fine. 44 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: He looks good on you. 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: It's fun to play. So I've never played this song. 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm tickled by that. 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 5: I'm excited. 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm excited you here. 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 5: Let's see if I remember. 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: Since you've recorded it, you haven't played it at all? 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: Do you mind if I sing a little on the. 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: End, can be honored. 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: I love this song. What a great way to open 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: a record to you. 55 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: Thank you. I'm just trying to remember how this song 56 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 5: was made. And I think it started off by this 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 5: guitar tuning that I discovered. 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: So it's C C G G and then normal and 59 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: then normal. So it's a Hawaiian tuning. 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it's called the waheeni or something cool. 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 5: A lot of times I'll just go through chord books 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: and chord encyclopedias and find new tunings, and that'll be 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: how I spend hours and hours and just trying to decode. 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: But let's see very different. I I love it. 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: You get really in there, sometimes a little too much, 66 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 5: and then you forget how you played the song. 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't know what it's tuned in. 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, this will be remembering as we learn. As we 69 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: play the song, I'll be trying to remember how it's done. Well. 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: Well met my future self in the mirror, he said, 71 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: only can save. 72 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: Us now, so I said out loud in. 73 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 6: The crowded room, and to talk about lungs. 74 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: I want you to know I love you so but 75 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: I need you to be a life flying for me. 76 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 7: And if you could be a live flying for. 77 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: Me, I'll be a lifeline for you. Some day you'll 78 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: see and I won't let go. 79 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: I won't let go. 80 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Hang it off you age. 81 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: Of again you or maybe you just can't see me 82 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: climb out of bed or see it again? 83 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 7: And a lines then of your daddy's house. 84 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: I want you to know I. 85 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: Love your soon, but I need. 86 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: You to be a life flying for me. 87 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 5: Man, if you good be a. 88 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: Life flying for me, I'll be a life lying for you. 89 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: Some day you'll see. 90 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: And I won't let go. 91 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: I won't let go. 92 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 5: I won't let go. 93 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: No, I won't let it go. 94 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 5: I won't let go. 95 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I won't let lord. 96 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 6: No, I won't let go. 97 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 8: I won't let go. 98 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 6: I won't let go. I won't let go. 99 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: I lego, who now let go? 100 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: That was great? 101 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: That was great too, That's too fun, so great. 102 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: That's a great song. Oh thank you. I love this song. 103 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: We haven't played together in so long. 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 5: It's been too long. 105 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen I saw you nine years ago. 106 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: I came and visited you in the studio, but I 107 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: haven't actually played with you in since since that tour. 108 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: Maybe India maybe like. 109 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Oh, India, Angalore, we were in India. That was maybe 110 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: thirteen years ago. 111 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 5: Oh my god, yeah, that sounds right. 112 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve. Well, it was right after my dad died, 113 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: so I know it was two thousand and thirteen, that's 114 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: what it was. Wow. Yeah, ten years ago. And then 115 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: before that we toured four every. 116 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 5: All over the all over this little planet. 117 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: It was incredible. Were we on tour for like a year? 118 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 5: I'm going to say it was off and on for 119 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 5: a year. 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, was that in two thousand and three or four? 121 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember something around there. 122 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. I remember playing this incredible place in Athens. 123 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: And then we hit in Greece. We played it the. 124 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: Other Athens, that's right, it's crazy, and. 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: It was like one hundred and ten degrees. 126 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 5: Is Stanbul, that's right. We hit them all. 127 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we went all over the States and Europe and. 128 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 5: A little stop in Goa Dance Poland. As I remember, memory. 129 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Serves, thanks for doing that with me. You did it 130 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: all solo. 131 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 5: You guys helped me. 132 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that's a long time to play solo. 133 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Even though we were all fam you know, it was 134 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: like still you were out there solo. 135 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 5: It takes a little bit of insanity which I think 136 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: I have. 137 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Well, you're great at it because your guitar place very kind, 138 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, rhythmic. 139 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 5: I mean, I enjoy it you have to do and 140 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 5: I like the challenge of like, okay, it's just me 141 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: and I remember in high school with my four track 142 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: it's like listening to Beatles records. It's like, I don't 143 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: have a bass player, I don't have drums. I'm going 144 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 5: to have to figure out how to do this di 145 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 5: I y and like whatever instrument is in the house. 146 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 5: And so that's still how it is. When I play solo, 147 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, how am I going to get through this? 148 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: It's great. 149 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's a it's a great challenge for me. 150 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 151 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: Well we had fun. 152 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: If I recall, we had what you would say, you 153 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: would call it a time. 154 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: Yes, it was a time. Yes, peaks and valleys, Yes, paks. 155 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: I remember some amazing little spots in the French Riviera, right, 156 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 5: Auntie was in there. 157 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Oh man, I gotta go look at 158 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: my pictures from that era. I have some good pictures 159 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: of us in El Paso. I know, remember when we 160 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: went to the top of that lookout that's right. Yeah, 161 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: some great pictures of us all. 162 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: There's some tas Ma Hall ones as well. Yeah, in 163 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: the in the tuk tuks. 164 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Do you remember when we took an overnight bus because 165 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: we didn't have a day off and in New Delhi 166 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: to go to the tash Ma Hall. So we did 167 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: it on our second show day. We had a we 168 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: had two shows in New Delhi and so the whole 169 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: band and crew who had to get up early to 170 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: work the next day too. We got on a bus 171 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: at like midnight from the hotel after the show and 172 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: we woke up at the taj Ma Hall at five 173 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: in the morning. And I'll never forget the guy you 174 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: know on the bus. It was like a guide and 175 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: he had a microphone. We were all asleep and then 176 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: he was like, hello, how do you back from your dreams? 177 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: We say that line all the time, Are you back 178 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: from your dreams? 179 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 5: I love that? And then opening our eyes and there's 180 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 5: the yes, this is a dream. 181 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: This was a dream. And then we drove back to 182 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Delhi and did a show. 183 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, that was fun. That whole trip 184 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: was a eye opener. 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy, man, It's so good to see 186 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: you and. 187 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: Play great to see you again times. 188 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. You know. The first time I heard 189 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: you before we met, I was at Jesse Harris's house. 190 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: He played me Undertaker okay, and what album is that? 191 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 5: From Transfiguration of Vincent. 192 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: I loved that album so much and I was obsessed 193 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: with it, and then I that's when I wanted you 194 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: to come tour with us. 195 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 5: You know, should we should we hit that? 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: It might be fun to do Undertakers. 197 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 5: Let's do it. 198 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite songs, thank you. And I 199 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: was listening to it today getting ready for this, and 200 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, it's still one of 201 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: my favorites. Yeah. When I to switch guitars in, is 202 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: it weird if I singing harmony on the second verse? 203 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: Is it okay? Okay? You know what's funny is that 204 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: I've loved this song for so long and I always 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: sang harmony on the second verse when I was listening 206 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: to it, So, yeah, I get to try it great 207 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: in real time. 208 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 5: I love it. I love it. I just did a 209 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 5: tour in Australia because that record just turned twenty. I think, wow, 210 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 5: so these Australians learned the entire record and we rolled 211 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: around Australia playing that entire record. 212 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: So it's so fun. 213 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 5: It was. 214 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: It was Blasts, So you had a local Australian band. Yeah, 215 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: that's a good way to roll. 216 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun. 217 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: It sounds fun great. 218 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 5: They call themselves the Dead Necks amazing and I'm gonna 219 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 5: give them a shout out right now. 220 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 8: M hm mm hmm. 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 6: Well, love is so good. 222 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: When you're treated like it should be. The sky goes 223 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: on forever in a zymphony of song, and how the 224 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: water can flow like it's streaming out of fountains, and 225 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: all you ain't gotta do is find a sword at 226 00:12:48,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: a store, and how it takes on the night like 227 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: Birds of Beardie, like way down in Pollyanna where the 228 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: raise runs were. Oh body, if you're gonna leave, better 229 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: call the undertaker, take me under, an undertaker, take me home. 230 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 6: Oh it just places me in a bar. 231 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: Fasten all the locks with the one to throw me 232 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: over the race side breede. Because love is so good 233 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: when you're treated like it should be. The sing goes 234 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: on forever in a symphonious song. Oh but if you're 235 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: gonna leave, you'd better call the undertaker. Take me under. 236 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: To undertake her take me on. Yeah, if you're gonna leave, 237 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: you'd better call le undertake her. Mm hmmm, take me 238 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: under Undertaker dig me. 239 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 9: Oh, whoa, whoa, that's so pretty. 240 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 241 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: I love that song, thanks sir bringing it back. When 242 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: did you make your first album? M Probably around two thousand, Yeah, 243 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: in Portland, Oregon? 244 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: Portland, Oregon, Yeah, where I first started making records. 245 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Did you grow up there? 246 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: I grew up in southern California in Venture County, that's right. 247 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: How did you end up in Portland? 248 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: That's a great question. Well, I got a degree in 249 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 5: literature and English, and some of my friends started this 250 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: job of teaching kids how to read, like dyslexic kids. 251 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: So that took me to Chicago and then Seattle, and 252 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: then I realized Portland was a little bit better than Seattle. 253 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 5: So that's why I ended up, which was two thousand, 254 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: which is like it was a different city then changed 255 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 5: so much, but yeah that's home now still still Los 256 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 5: Angeles is home, so I bounce between both cities. Now. 257 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Wow, I love. How many records have you made? 258 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 5: I've lost track? 259 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot. 260 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: I think this record that's going to come out as 261 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 5: my eleventh. 262 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 263 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 5: It is one every couple of years. 264 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's perfect. It's great. 265 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 5: How you've been, man, been good? Been good? How about 266 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 5: you pretty good? 267 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? We should just shows together. I know, let's do 268 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: it so you you kind of bounce back and forth 269 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: between playing, touring, making records with your own thing and 270 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: also she and Him with Zoe you know, yeah, which 271 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I love. You've made, Like, how many Christmas records? 272 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 5: We made? Two Christmas records? 273 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: Two is not enough? You need another? 274 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 5: Well, we'll think about it. Yeah, yeah, I mean I 275 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 5: love your Christmas record. It's like it's it's a great 276 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 5: way to spend the summer, right. 277 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: It is? 278 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: Right? Did you find that when you were doing it? 279 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: By the end you were so in it that you 280 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: had like all these other Christmas songs you wanted to 281 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: do And that's why you did a second one? I 282 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: mean because I could see that. 283 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, the list is never ending up those I know, 284 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 5: you know songs and saying and it's like, keep doing 285 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 5: that forever. 286 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: It's great. It's one of my favorite Christmas albums. Thank 287 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: you to listen to. And you guys just did a 288 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: Brian Wilson Yes, yeah. 289 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 5: During COVID we just decided this would be a good 290 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: challenge to like take on these songs that are really complex. 291 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: And he's been a you know, inspiration since I was 292 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 5: in high school and just growing up with these songs 293 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 5: and these harmonies, and it kind of seems kind of 294 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 5: simple when you're, you know, listening to it on the 295 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 5: radio or on your CD player, But then when you 296 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 5: dig in, as I'm sure you know, there's just so 297 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: many movements and chord progressions that boggles of mind. 298 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: It's so complex, right, Yeah, Yeah, the songs are deep, Yeah, 299 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: with a sunny. 300 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 5: Ex sunny exterior, but but yeah, a very deep ocean 301 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: of complexity. 302 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Did you guys hang out with him and 303 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: play him at all? 304 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 5: Yeah? He played on this record. 305 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: He played on the record. 306 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, we guessed it on his last solo record called 307 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 5: Peer Pressure Special. It was amazing. Yeah, he's a he's 308 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 5: a hero, and the fact that he's still on it 309 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 5: and still writing beautiful songs and singing is inspiration. 310 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: It's fun to watch your heroes work and just sort 311 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: of see how they do it. 312 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah right, Yeah, we're lucky to be in that position. 313 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so cool. 314 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 5: I'm remembering now when. I think it was in Copenhagen 315 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: where we met Keith Richards, right, I forgot about that 316 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: and just hearing him talk about his yeah story, it 317 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: was like I think we brought out some ukuleles at 318 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 5: some point. 319 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 9: Right. 320 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: We went to his hotel room. 321 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 5: That's right. 322 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: His saxophone player Tim Reis told me that they were 323 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: in town and that Keith would love to say hi. 324 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: And we went and his his wife and daughters were 325 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: there and they were just having a family hang. 326 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: Yep, and they just invited us in. 327 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: It was just you and me, or you and me 328 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: and Lee. 329 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 5: I think it's just you. I think it was just 330 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: you and me. 331 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we went in and they were dancing with 332 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: like funny hats and just jammy. 333 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was there was some guitars and nukuleles around. 334 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about that forever. Wow, what a good memory. 335 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 5: This was before the time where we photograph everything. 336 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no photograph of it. It was just a 337 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: little hang. Yeah, that's wild. I just saw Keith at 338 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: this Willie Nelson. Yeah, and he sounded amazing. Yeah, his 339 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: voice sounded great. He looks great. 340 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. I wish I could have seen that show. 341 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny. 342 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 5: It was pretty epic. 343 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: It was pretty epic. Yeah, it was amazing. But it's 344 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: funny thinking about life, right and going back in time. 345 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: Don't you feel like you're the same age in some ways? 346 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 347 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah I do too. 348 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, time is time stopped a long time ago. 349 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like all these memories of that tour. 350 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah there were we had pictures, but it wasn't like 351 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: it is now. 352 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and. 353 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: Just sort of snapshot memories. 354 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of these days we'll tell the whole story. 355 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: The whole story. Oh my god, that was a roller coaster. 356 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 5: It was. 357 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: It was the roller coaster of two thousand and four 358 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: or three, I can't remember, speaking of roller coaster. What 359 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: a segue. I didn't even mean to do that. 360 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 5: Well done, Well should we do that song? 361 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? I love roller coaster. This is a great one. 362 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: Thank you. 363 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: I get to sing harmonies. 364 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 5: With you me, uh, change the tuning in for a 365 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 5: second here. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. That Santa 366 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: Fe and no it was it wasn't Santa Fe. It 367 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 5: was Texas. 368 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: It was El Paso. 369 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, until you mentioned that, I think we like it, 370 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 5: like looked over warez right and we met some. 371 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Natives, We ate some really great Mexican right. I think 372 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: that was near the end of the era. Yeah, maybe, yeah, Okay, 373 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: maybe this was two thousand and six. I think this 374 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: was two thousand and six. 375 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 5: Maybe it actually lasted three years. 376 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it was actually a five year tour. 377 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 5: I remember India was the last. 378 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was after a long time. Yeah, big hiatus. 379 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: I feel like India was kind of more like a 380 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: one one off for. 381 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 5: Us, as most tours are. You know, you hit India last. 382 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, hit India is its own thing, India and Texas. 383 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: And I'll never forget this concert we went to in 384 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 5: India where it was sitars. We were all sitting down. 385 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 5: We were invited into this old temple and we had 386 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: a privately it was like a private. 387 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Concert, Like I don't remember that, And then I think 388 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: you're thinking of my stepmom. It was her house. It 389 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: was like my dad's center. It wasn't it felt like 390 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: a temple because it was a it's like a center 391 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: where they teach. There's like a big building, that's what it. 392 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 5: Was like a school almost. 393 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And she had these musicians and dancers from Rajasthan 394 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: come and performed for us. 395 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 5: That's what it was. It felt like a private concert. 396 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: It was because she did it because she knew that 397 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: she knew that we weren't going to get time to 398 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: go see anything, so she kind of brought it to us, 399 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: which was really cool. That's amazing. Actually, I remember that 400 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: group of musicians and dancers I had seen probably fifteen 401 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: years earlier, and one of the kids was dancing, and 402 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: this time it was like the kid was the leader, 403 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: the grown up. 404 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 5: Crazy. 405 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: That is crazy? 406 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: Was it in Delhi? 407 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: That was in Delhi? Yeah, all right, let's do roller coaster, 408 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Is this a funny tuning? 409 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: It is? 410 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: What is it? 411 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 5: It's called, for lack of a better word, D six okay, 412 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: which a lot of my records are based on. For 413 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: some reason. Nice does D major sound about right? 414 00:24:53,640 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: Yep? Your luck roll roll, roll and coast. 415 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: You can hurry back to Wins. 416 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: You can make a damn man scream your. 417 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 5: Luck roll roll roll a coasting. 418 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 8: Un Yeah. 419 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 3: Now, roller coaster it was the best of time, But 420 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 3: roller coaster it was the worst of times to because 421 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: you lift me up so high, high high. That's the 422 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: most unbelievable ride. 423 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: You're like a roll road, roll and coaster. 424 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: You give me heavy mental dreams so you can make 425 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: a damn man scream. You're larking roll Roll, roll. 426 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 7: And Coaster, roller Coaster. 427 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 10: I can't find my friends on the ground. 428 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 7: Just lift me up and send me spy Ireland now. 429 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 11: Because you lit me up so high high. It's the 430 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 11: most unbelievable ride. 431 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 5: You're like roll Roll, Roll and Coast. 432 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: Heavy mane to weak. 433 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 5: You could make a damn man screamed. 434 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 6: You're like roll Road, Roll and Coast, Roll Roll, Roll 435 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 6: Lo Coast, Roll Roll Roll Lo Coaster one more time, 436 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: Roll Road, roll a coaster. 437 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 8: Best. 438 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 5: I love them when you do those breaks. 439 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like when you do. I like how 440 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: we switched them. 441 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 5: That was good version. 442 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: That was fun. Thatunds a fun one. 443 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 5: Thank you, Nora thinks mad. 444 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're going to go on tour? When does 445 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: the record come out? 446 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 5: Record comes out on June twenty third. 447 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so we might be past that when this airs. 448 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but yeah, are you beyond tour all summer? 449 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: No? 450 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 5: I don't really tour as much anymore. It's more like 451 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 5: select dates. 452 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so you kind of go in and out. 453 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I keep things kind of special instead of a 454 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 5: constant whirlwind. 455 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: That's a good way to do it, especially if you 456 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: have kids. 457 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it works for me. 458 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you usually take a band out or do 459 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: you usually have like a like you did in Australia. 460 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 5: It's half and half. I like the challenge of just 461 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 5: playing solo a lot, but I love the xury of 462 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 5: having a full band. So it's I try to do 463 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 5: try to do both. 464 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: It's nice to mix it up. Yes, it's only one thing. 465 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: Yes, it keeps me on my toes always. And my 466 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 5: favorite place to tour is Europe, so i'm there once 467 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: or twice a year. 468 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that's tough from the West coast. 469 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a bit of I get a little 470 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: bit of mileage bonuses. 471 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Good, let's do Chinese translation. 472 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 5: Let's do it. 473 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: You've been doing this one a long time. 474 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 5: This one gets requested pretty often. 475 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 476 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: This is a record. It comes from a record called 477 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 5: Post War. 478 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, and. 479 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to say it was made around two 480 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 5: thousand and five. Yep, I think maybe right around the 481 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: time we did our three year tour. Right in the middle. 482 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: There are five year tour, Yes, a five year tour 483 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I think it came out in the middle there, and 484 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: that's why I feel like I feel really like I 485 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: know this one really well from that era. 486 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tuning in that same tuning is roller coaster? 487 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: Should we just wing it? 488 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's sing it all right? 489 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 12: Dot two three, I say the wild See clumbed up 490 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 12: a doll doll mountain. 491 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 5: I met an old old man. 492 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: He sat beneath the saplingary he said, Now, if you 493 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: got some questions, go and lay them at my feet. 494 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 5: But my time here is brief. You're gonna have to 495 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 5: pick just three. So I said, what do you do with. 496 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 7: The pieces of a broken huh? 497 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: And how can a man like me real made. 498 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: In the line? 499 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: And if life is really it's showing as they say, 500 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: then why is them not so long? And then the 501 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: sun went dad and he sang for me this song. 502 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: He said, I once was a young man like you, 503 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: and I was afraid to do the things that I 504 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: knew I had to do. So I played escapade and 505 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: just say, yeah, I played this escapade just like you. 506 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 10: I said, while why see, I climbed to off tall 507 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 10: mountain man, an old old man, He's happenneath the sapling and. 508 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: He said, now, if you got some questions, go and 509 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 3: lay them at my feet. But my time here is brief. 510 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: She's gonna have to pictures three, And I said, what 511 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: do you do with the pieces of Brooking home? And 512 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: how can a man like me remain in the life? 513 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 6: And if life is ready and short as they sing, 514 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 6: then why is the night so long? 515 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 5: And did that song? 516 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: And down at same for me? 517 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 6: This song? 518 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 8: And don't don't time? 519 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: That's a fun one to play. 520 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 5: Great solos. 521 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: That was great. I love your retired playing so much. 522 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: I think you introduced me to J. J. Cale. 523 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 5: Did I think you did. 524 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd ever listened to him before the 525 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: Magnolia that song. We didn't do it, but I just 526 00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: know that you talked about him. 527 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love him. 528 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 529 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: Who else did you love? Growing up? 530 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 5: I mean my first thing that first songs that I 531 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 5: learned were like songs from the Beatles catalog, and then 532 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 5: I started to get into like who inspired them? So 533 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 5: that led me to Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry's. And 534 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 5: then when I started switching from electric guitar to acoustic 535 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 5: guitar and started messing with alternate tunings, it was Joni Mitchell, 536 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 5: John Fahey and. 537 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: John Fay I could hear that. 538 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 5: That was a big influence. Yeah, and then I discovered 539 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 5: this label out of Los Angeles called SST, which led 540 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 5: me to find electric guitars and learning about sonic Youth 541 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 5: and and they're alternate tunings, which is a whole other subject. 542 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 5: It's a whole nother podcast. 543 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about them. 544 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, we should talk about Youth make. 545 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: Me some I mean I know them and I but 546 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't really know much. 547 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's lots of lots of take in. But 548 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 5: that was a big influence for me. Was was their 549 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 5: treatment of electric guitars. And yeah, they have a record 550 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 5: called Sister. And the one that really hit me the 551 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 5: hardest was Goo. And I was in that impressionable high 552 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 5: school age and yeah, a record called Goo is probably 553 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 5: the one I would recommend people to start with. 554 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll start there. 555 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 9: I love it. 556 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 5: How about you? What was your high school like? Repeat 557 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 5: lessons Jeff Buckley. 558 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of jazz. It's a lot of 559 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: Billie Holiday, Yeah, yeah, Nina, Simone, Ray Charles, that kind 560 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: of stuff. But I also loved the and Nirvana. Those 561 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: were my big current bands that I loved. Yeah, I 562 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: wore that Violent Fem's record out. I still listen to it. 563 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 5: All the time. I really don't know them. 564 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that one album is so good. I think it's 565 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: just called Violent Fems. But it's cool because it's it's 566 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: all acoustic instruments. He's playing like a not upright acoustic bass. 567 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: It's just an acoustic sideways bass, a bass guitar. I 568 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: think I could be completely wrong about this, but this 569 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: is what my ears tell me. And the drums is 570 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: mostly just like snare drum. It's not even a whole kid, 571 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: so it's very stripped back, but like punk rock, it's 572 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. 573 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 5: Are they still making music. 574 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: I think they are. I think they're on tour. 575 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 576 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: My dream is to get Gordon Gato. Oh my god, 577 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: I would die actually all of them, but it's just 578 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: so good. 579 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 5: They're all still with us. 580 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I actually have no idea if they're 581 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: still the same band. I'm not sure if they are, 582 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: but shout out, yeah, so a cute pretty cool. Are 583 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: you ever doing Monsters of Folks anymore? You guys still 584 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: get together? 585 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 6: Ever? 586 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: Jim James and Connor Oberst. 587 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 5: We do get together every once in a while, but 588 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 5: everyone is pretty busy doing their own thing. 589 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 8: Yeah. 590 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 5: I'll be doing some touring with Jim this summer with 591 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 5: my Morning Jacket. Oh fun on the West coast. 592 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: That's rad. That'll be a finish couple of. 593 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 5: Nights at Red Rocks, which I think we played Red Rocks. 594 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: I think we did. Yeah, Oh that's great, So that'll 595 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: be that'll be good. Are you He's sang on the 596 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: new record, didn't he? 597 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 5: He played saxophone on. 598 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 1: My new He played saxophone on the new record. Yeah, 599 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: that's fun. 600 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people will be surprised to know 601 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 5: Jim's a great saxophone player. 602 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: But I didn't know that. It doesn't surprise me though. 603 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's mad many talents. 604 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. Who else is on the new record? 605 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: You got some guests. 606 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 5: I did a couple of songs with First Aid Kit. 607 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 5: They've got these family harmonies that they do because they're 608 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 5: sisters and incredible vocalists. And then Jim's on there, my 609 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 5: old friends from Doctor Dog, Scott mcmackon is on there, 610 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 5: Amazing Nico Case is on there. And another band I 611 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 5: got turned onto a few years ago was Shovels and Rope. 612 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: They're amazing. 613 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 5: I love that. 614 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're great. Have you ever toured with them? 615 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 5: Not toured, but we did a festival, this thing that 616 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 5: they host in South Carolina. 617 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: Okay is that where they're from? 618 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so they're on there. So it's it's a 619 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 5: good mix. 620 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: The album's great. I love it. It's called Supernatural Thing 621 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: and it's very supernatural. And you do this Daniel Johnson 622 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: song Johnston, Right, it's with a T Daniel Johnson. 623 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 624 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: I think you might have turned me onto him also 625 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: back in the day. 626 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 5: He's been a huge influence since high school. 627 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: Also, yeah, right, can you tell a little bit about 628 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: him just for people who don't know him. I feel 629 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: like it's kind of he's like a special find if 630 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: you don't know him. 631 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gotten a lot of publicity over the over 632 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 5: the last you know, five ten years, but he's still 633 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 5: kind of an underground figure. Songwriter from Austin, Texas, was 634 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 5: diagnosed with a few different kinds of mental illnesses, but 635 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 5: it didn't stop him from making just tons of cassettes 636 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: and records. 637 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, cassettes, a lot of cassettes, right. 638 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how he started just completely Diy and it was. 639 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: Pretty underground for a long time. 640 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's still, like, you know, kind of hard 641 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 5: to find someone that knows his his tapes, but so 642 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 5: many incredible songs. I've covered about three or four of them. 643 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 5: And on my new record, I record a song that 644 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 5: I've been playing live a bunch called Story of an Artist. 645 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: It's a pretty deep song. 646 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 5: It's a great song. 647 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: It's a crazy song. 648 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's. 649 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: It says it all, it really does, and it's Yeah, 650 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: it kind of took me back. It took me a 651 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: a back. Yeah, it kind of knocked me down a 652 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: little listening to it. 653 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's his perspective is uh like like no other. 654 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 5: And he passed away a few years ago. I was 655 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 5: happy to meet him a few times. Oh yeah, just 656 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 5: one of the kind. Yeah, and I recommend anyone who's 657 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 5: listening to this to check out his early tapes. 658 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: Story of an Artist. All right, well you want to play, 659 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: let's do it. 660 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I'll just sing on this. 661 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: Crazy No, it's awesome. There's only two worse than the song. 662 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's four chords. 663 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the whole song is four chords. 664 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: I think I can do it. 665 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 5: And any verses that you know, please, what key are 666 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 5: we in here? On the album? 667 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: You do it? 668 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: Indeed? And you there's quite a few verses on his version, right. 669 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think I only took out one. 670 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you like sweetened it, you know it's perfect. 671 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: Liszten up and all tell a story about an artist 672 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: growing up. Some will try for faming glory and others 673 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 3: are so bold, and everyone in friends and family. 674 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 5: Saying, hey, go get a job. Why do you only 675 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 5: do that only? And why are you so I. 676 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 3: They say, we don't really like what you do. We 677 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 3: don't think anyone ever will. We think you have a problem, 678 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 3: and this problems made you ill. 679 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 11: The artist walks the flowers, appreciating the sun. 680 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: He's out there, he's waking hours. Oh to say that 681 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: he's wrong, But. 682 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 3: The artist walks alone, and someone says behind his back, 683 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 3: he's got some gall to call himself that he doesn't 684 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 3: even know where he's at. 685 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 5: So listen. 686 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 3: And I'll tell a story about an artists growing up. 687 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: So will try for famed glory. Others like to watch 688 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 3: the word dadda. 689 00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,959 Speaker 1: I got so sad. 690 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 5: There's some sadness in there. 691 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: What a beautiful song though. 692 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 5: Heavy, That was great. Yeah, it's it's heavy. So many 693 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 5: of us songs are very heavy. 694 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: But oh beautiful story of an artist. Huh, it's crazy. 695 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 5: Why do we do this? 696 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 6: Yeah? 697 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 5: Why do we do this? I mean, you know, it 698 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 5: raises that, it raises the question. I don't know. 699 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have done if I 700 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: hadn't found success doing this. Yeah, I don't know. I 701 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: don't know that I would do something else or stop 702 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: doing it. 703 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying it's even if I had another job, 704 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 5: music would still be happening. Yeah, very blessed that. Yeah myself, 705 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 5: we are, you know, able to wake up every day 706 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 5: and do this and instead of having to devote time 707 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 5: to a million other things. 708 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thanks for joining me. 709 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 5: What a blast. So good to see you Nora play 710 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 5: some songs. 711 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: Yay, Oh that was fun. Thanks for listening. His voice 712 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:11,479 Speaker 1: is like molasses in my ears. He always so gross. 713 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, it meant it like a soothing but that 714 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 4: sounds like a sticky mess. 715 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: I love his his accent kind of I don't understand 716 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: where it's from, but I love it. Yeah, what is that? 717 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't know? Old timey? Yes, yeah, it's great. We 718 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 1: had so much fun reconnecting Thank you for listening everyone. 719 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the show. I'm just playing long dude, 720 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: weuzy do do Doo doo. If you want to know 721 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: some songs from the show, we played Lifeline from his 722 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: latest album titled Supernatural Thing. We played Undertaker from Transfiguration 723 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 1: of Vincent in two thousand and three, roller Coaster from 724 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: Postwar two thousand and six, Chinese translation also from Post 725 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: War two thousand and six, and Story of an Artist, 726 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: which is a Danielson song that m Ward recorded for 727 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: his two thousand and four album The Late Great Daniel Johnston, 728 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: and a live version is also on his new album. 729 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded by Matt Marinelli, mixed by Jamie Landry, 730 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: edited by Sarah Oda, additional engineering by Greg Tobler and 731 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: Pete rem artwork by Eliza Frye. Photography by Shervin Lenz. 732 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: Produced by Me and my Sarah Oda,