WEBVTT - Draft Show: Will You Be My Draft Crush? 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:08.719 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.480 room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:16.160 the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frescope, 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:21.520 Dallas Cowboys like T D Lamb, Sargler and now your 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:27.600 hosts Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeoman's 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.560 It's a Thursday edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.400 Draft Show. As we are seventy four days away from 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.600 the NFL Draft. It's hard to keep count at this 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.080 point because we're getting closer and closer along the way. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.680 But we are going to break it down in early 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.960 Valentine's Day gift for all of you listeners out there 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.000 who decided to tune in, as we're gonna give our 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.640 Valentine's crushes of draft prospects at each position. And plus, hey, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.000 Dave Brugler gave you a nice little mot draft Valentine 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.680 Day gift earlier today. We're gonna go through that as 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.120 you can find that on the Athletic. But I want 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.400 to start things off today by asking mister Jeff Kavanaugh 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.640 a question because I feel like you're probably the more 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.560 likely of the four of us to do this. But 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.679 if you were on a boat and you have the 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.760 Lombardi trophy in your hand, would you have the guts 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.039 to toss it to another boat in the middle of 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:26.440 a bay, let's say Tampa Bay, at some point throughout 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.279 that celebration. Would you have the guts to do something 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:36.400 like that? Oh? Yeah, I don't care about pretty much anything, Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.800 Plus I'm an experienced boatman. Ye are I'm a lake Yeah? Yeah, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.720 oh yeah, I'm a lake man. But I'm an experienced boatman, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.160 and I'm an experienced drinker. So I think that I 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.440 could pull that off with no problems whatsoever. I could 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.320 throw the Lombardi to kat and I could throw it. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.640 I'll say I could throw it from without even knowing 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.800 how much it weighs. I'll say I could make that 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:03.760 toss from eighteen yards. Okay, Katie, would you make the catch? Tank? Uh? Yeah, no, 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.080 I've got very good at hands. My problem is getting 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:11.639 separation because I'm a little chubby. I'll set a pickup 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.040 for you and run the dig. We'll be good. I'll 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:22.040 call them both. That's all I need to be doing. Yeah, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.760 I can make that point for you. Okay, I just 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.359 wanted to make sure. I just wanted to ask that 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.840 question because I don't know why, but yesterday I was like, 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.200 which one of the three of these Draft Show guys 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.960 would be more willing to toss a Lombardi Trophy. My 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:38.040 first thought was Dane's face whenever it happened, whenever he 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.080 actually saw it. But then my second thought was, oh, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.560 Jeff would probably ultimately make this toss. Now, Dane, what 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.520 did you think about the Super Bowl? Is? We didn't 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.639 get the chance to get your thoughts on or all 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.400 three of y'all's thoughts on the Draft Show Tuesday? What 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.119 you think about the final of Tampa Bay taking down 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:01.480 Kansas City thirty one that night? A little surprised that 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.760 the Chiefs were not more ready for the Bucks defensive 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.240 game plan. I thought that, you know, Andy Reid knows 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.760 way you know, add up all our football knowledge and 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:16.240 Andy Reid still knows way, way more. Um So, you know, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.800 I just thought they'd be a little more ready and 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.640 be able to adjust to what the Bucks were doing. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.040 But I mean credit to uh, you know, that defense, 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.840 the pressure they put on the pocket. Um you know, 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.600 of course Tom Brady what he was able to do. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.400 I mean, it's it's really remarkable. Um, you know it's 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.160 and I think just as a you know, the thirty 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.480 thousand foot view, the fact that we got through the 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.320 season with no cancelations, a few postponements here and there, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.120 a few scares, a few teams had to you know, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:47.040 play a game without coaches and players and all that, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.080 but you know, ultimately we made it. We made it 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.360 to the finish line. And credit to the Bucks for 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:53.560 you know, I think if you we watched him throughout 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.920 the year, just get better and better and better. And 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.800 obviously part of that is you know, Tom Brady bringing 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:03.000 his uh of knowledge to offense and getting comfortable and 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.080 just everything jelling at the right time. So uh, you know, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.680 they they're ready to come back and do it next year, 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:13.680 so it should make it interesting. I thought that game 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.680 provided a lot of hope to other teams around the 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.680 league of like, hey, you might be closer than maybe 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.800 maybe you think. I mean for the Chiefs, and we 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.680 know how dangerous the Chiefs are with their weapons and 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.320 all that stuff. In my homes, I don't have to 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.839 tell you that, but like the mistakes, kind of the 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.159 sloppiness on defense, and everyone's gonna grap about the penalties, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.080 but they put themselves in a position to like not 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.159 overcome those penalties by stupid mistakes. I'll never understand someone 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.599 lining up off sides on a field goal attempt. It's 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.360 the dumbest thing in sports. Um So, like I see 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.599 things like that, I'm a man. I kind of what 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.520 Dane said. I can't believe they weren't more ready. And 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.159 I think in the NFC, you know, I think that 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.200 that since, like I know, Tom Brady's a monster and 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.159 all this stuff, but that defense is the story for 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.080 me at Tampa Bay defense, and that kind of tells you, Okay, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.160 look we can go put points up in if we 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.240 can find a way to build our defense a little bit, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.400 we've got a chance to compete in the NFC. And 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.640 I think we saw that with New Orleans in Green 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.640 Bay thinking they had a shot and the Rams that 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.520 they kind of had a shot for a while until 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.320 quarterback chaos ensued. And whatever happens with Seattle, I know 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.040 Russell Wilson's been saying a lot of stuff. Whatever happens 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.160 with Seattle will be interesting. But the NFC to me 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:27.440 is still very wide open. Jet I think it showed 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.680 me that the draft show is where you build champions, 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.200 because if you look at Tampa Bay's last three years 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.720 of drafts, you're gonna find three years ago, Vita Bay, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.560 Ronald Jones, Carlton Davis, Alex Kappa, Jordan Whitehead, everybody that 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.160 I named as a starter. I mean Ronald Jones, I 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:47.400 guess kind of sometimes twenty nineteen, Devin White, Sean Murphy Bunting, 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.560 Jamal Dean. Every one of those is a starter. And 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.919 then last year Tristan Worf's Antoine Winfield Junior. Those are studs. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.279 So I named you at least three Pro bowlers and 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.680 a whole bunch of starter and a whole bunch of 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.320 good starters. So basically, when a team gets to the 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.440 Super Bowl, show me their last three to four years 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.680 of drafts, and I'll tell you if they were actually there. 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.880 And for Tampa Bay, the answer is absolutely. And then 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.240 they convinced the Goat to show up, and then he 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.279 brought his friends. But a lot of what they built 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.560 is the last three years of the draft. I just 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.120 gave you part of their offensive line, their entire secondary, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.920 the best nose tackle in football, a guy who's going 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.839 to be an All Pro offensive tackle for a bunch 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.480 of years of Pro Bowl safety. That's all in the 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.480 last three years of drafting. So that's nothing. Well, I'm sorry, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.000 I'm sorry, Jeff. That's where the Cowboys defense is. Where 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.000 it's at right now is because they've missed a lot 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.799 in the twenty seventeen draft. But Taco Cheeto, Jordan Lewis, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.600 I know, we talked about Xavier Woods. You know, Zavier 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.760 Woods might be a starter, you know, like, that's where 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.720 their defense is. Where it's at. They missed our entire 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.440 year of drafting, and that can't happen. That sets you 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.039 back if you completely with on one year. And you 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.200 can also argue maybe twenty nineteen two without half a 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.560 first round draft pick and then Triston Hill being your 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.000 second round pick. I mean you could argue there that 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.359 you missed as well. Now there's still a lot to 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.840 kind of from come to fruition with the twenty nineteen 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.480 draft that we don't know if Tristan Hill is a 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.600 miss yet. But you didn't have that first round pick, 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.720 and I think not having that hurt you on the 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.480 defensive side of the football. It's pretty nice to have 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.000 a Maria Cooper on the offensive side. But I completely agree. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:23.560 I wrote about it a little bit this morning on 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.920 Dallas Cowboys dot Com about the building of Tampa Bay 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.280 and how it's kind of reversed from what the Cowboys 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.640 have been doing over the last couple of years. It 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.560 seems like the Cowboys have said, hey, let's sign all 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.720 these free agents, try and get a cheap deal or 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.480 at least a bargain discount on free agents, and then 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.240 fill those holes with some draft picks. Now, Tampa Bay 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.760 did the opposite. They drafted really, really well, and they'd 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.200 say it, Hey, now that we've drafted well, let's bring 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.000 in these guys. Like Jeff said, the Goat and his 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.360 friends came along and then all of a sudden, you're 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.240 a Super Bowl contender. But the Cowboys have a long 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.200 way to go in order to do that, and they're 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.000 gonna have to hit on a couple of picks in 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.840 order to do so. But let's talk talk about Dane's 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:05.040 first round mock draft. You can find it on the 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.480 Athletic It's mock Draft three point Oh. Mister Dane Brugler. First, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.680 give us just kind of your initial thoughts on riding 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.640 this up, and then we'll get into the Cowboys pick 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:18.760 and kind of how things in suit scenario wise, Well, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.560 I wanted to switch things up a little bit and 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.520 introduce some trade opportunities. You know, it's mock drafts are 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.320 at this point in the process, all about laying out scenarios. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.160 You know, what are the possibilities, what could happen, And 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.400 it's just it's not realistic, honestly to do a mock 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.080 draft without some type of trades. You know, just last 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.400 year's draft, in the first round, there were eleven teams 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.400 that drafted in a spot other than that where they 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.240 were originally slotted. So there's going to be movement. It's 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.400 going to happen, especially when you consider the quarterbacks at 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.760 the top of this draft. Now, is it, you know, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:57.120 almost unrealistic to nail those trades. Yeah, but at least 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.040 we can lay out some of those possible scenarios that 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.640 could be on the table for some of these teams. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.800 And so that's what I tried to do, lay out 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.720 you know, trade compensation, the reasoning behind some of these moves. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.679 And you know, all and Ali had six trades in 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.720 this first round mock draft, so a lot of movement. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.000 The Cowboys stayed at ten, but there were two trades 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.360 in front of them. Uh. You know, we talk about 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.679 the quarterbacks and how they're probably gonna go quickly, and 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.560 that's what happened in this scenario. So that's you know, 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.760 on one hand, it'd be great for a quarterback to 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.280 fall to ten because then you can talk trade down 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.559 and all that. But at the same time, if four 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.440 quarterbacks go top ten, that means you're pushing another good 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.439 player to you at ten. I think that's what happened 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.200 in this draft. Was there a scenario in there somewhere 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.000 where you thought about trading the Cowboys pick either to 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:52.840 go up or down at any point? Not up? I 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:56.200 think it really just it would come down to because 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:00.600 there were there were a few possibilities that I looked at. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.880 When you have the Giants sitting there at eleven, and 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:08.600 let's say Jamar Chase Davante Smith goes somewhere in the 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.080 top ten, I think there's one more receiver in this 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.720 draft that's really in that top tier, being Jail and Waddle. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.760 And so you're looking at a few teams, you know, 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.920 like the Patriots or you know a few of these 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.800 other teams that are maybe looking for that weapon, and 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.600 you want to get in front of the Giants to 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.160 go get that weapon, and so at ten, I think 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.520 that's a possible landing spot for one of these teams. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.800 The other scenario that I looked at was a team 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.199 like the Charger sitting there at thirteen. They are a 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.000 very offensive line needy team right now. They need to 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.360 keep Justin Herbert healthy. They need to do something to 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.520 upgrade that offensive line in several spots. And so if 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.440 you know Penne Suo goes early, and then you know 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.600 Rashawn Slater, if he's the next guy off the board, 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.040 and let's say that a team like the Chargers has 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.200 a gap between Slater and that next offensive tackle, well 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.920 maybe they would look to trade up to number ten 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.839 ahead of you know, a team you know like that 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.680 could possibly trade in front of them to get that 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.480 offensive tackle. So I think there are a few scenarios 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.080 here that are plausible. But at the end of the day, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.760 you know, I had them stay put at ten. Patrick 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.440 Surtan was there, and it made sense for them just 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.000 to stay put. If they don't have a deal on 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.360 the table that blows them away, stay put and draft, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.920 And that's what they did in this scenario. So in 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.840 your scenario, the biggest trade was the fact that the 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.520 Panthers went from number eight up to number three and 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.480 they ended up taking Justin Fields instead of maybe letting 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.079 mac Jones kind of fall into their lap. A lot 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.400 of quarterbacks. Trevor Lawrence number one, Wilson goes number to 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.480 Justin Fields goes number three. That's pretty much what you 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.600 would think about the first three picks of the draft, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.520 no matter who's going to be picking there. Maybe with 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.920 the exception of Miami, Kyle Pitts goes number five, the 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.360 tied end from Florida, the Eagles, Well, we will now 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.120 have to see Jamar Chase wide receiver out of LSU, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.280 for the next couple of years. Twice year Trey Lance 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.920 is Washington's new quarterback. Is they traded up to seven 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.079 to go get a quarterback there? So just talking about 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:13.040 the NFC East opponents here, Jeff and Kat specifically, whenever 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.720 it comes to the early parts of this mock draft, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.640 having to see Jamar Chase twice a year, and then Washington, 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.520 a team who won the division last year, finally getting 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:26.240 a quarterback that's at least somewhat competent and not injured 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.960 in the backfield like a Trey Lance. What does that 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.320 say to you about the NFC East potential If they're 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:33.880 going to trade up and try and go get these 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.920 guys with the Eagles, if they're not going to take 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.280 a quarterback, I wouldn't worry about the Eagles for the 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.320 next half decade because I think Carson Wentz is gonna 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.160 get traded and I don't think Jalen Hurts is good 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.440 enough to be a good NFL quarterback. So if they're 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.360 going to take a wide receiver, I think that's fine. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.960 What would worry me as a Cowboy observer is if 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.680 Philadelphia takes a quarterback and hits. So in this scenario, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.199 I would say Washington is the team that's doing themselves 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.719 a real favor and Philadelphia is still going to be 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.679 in trouble. It's nice to have weapons, but if your 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.080 quarterback's not good enough, and I don't think Jalen Hurts is, 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.640 then you're not gonna win a lot of football games. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:16.400 Washington finding a quarterback, a real life quarterback because Alex Smith, 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.800 ain't it, Taylor Einekey, who knows. But if they find 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.520 a real life quarterback, that roster is better than the 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.640 Cowboys roster. If they have a quarterback, they can win 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.760 the division again. But the Cowboy and now there's wild 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.200 cards there. If the Cowboys get their entire offensive lineback 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.640 and you have Dak and he's fully recovered, blah blah 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.800 blah blah blah, then you can still win the division. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.040 But Washington finding a real life quarterback. That's the biggest 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.920 problem in this division for the Cowboys. And I think 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.920 you made a good point about the Eagles, and that's 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.360 they're really interesting in this scenario, with Carson Wentz likely 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.000 on his way out, what do the Eagles do a 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.520 number six? Is there a quarterback there that they feel 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.000 great about that they'd want to go get in In In 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:01.080 this scenario, the only quarterback available Trey Lant or you know, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.080 Mac Jones, even if you want to include him. But 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.000 I think the Eagles are at a point where, even 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.720 if you do add a young quarterback, is the rest 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.080 of the roster good enough, you know, And so I 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.839 think that they're at a point where they can build 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.040 up the talent around the quarterback in this draft and 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.880 then aim for a quarterback in next year's draft, or 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.360 if they feel strongly enough about a quarterback, just drop 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.200 them now and then you know, do your best to 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.880 fill in the pieces later. So the Eagles are interesting 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.280 crossroads here that I think makes them a real wild card, 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:35.360 and I like the idea though at the question we're 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.480 kind of talking about the NFC East. But you know, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.520 if I'm the Falcons at pick four and three, quarterbacks 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.800 are off the board in this scenario where Carolina has 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.040 traded up, if I like that guy a little bit, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.800 I'd probably going to pull the trigger. And I know, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.840 maybe they think they can extend Matt Ryan a little 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.000 bit more his career a little bit more, I might 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.680 go ahead and rip off the band aid and start 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.440 to rebuild. I guess my question for you, Dan, I 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.800 know you've answered this before, but like next year's quarterbacks, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.920 what's the what's the feeling quite a bit of a 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:09.480 drop off compared to this year? I mean I think so, um, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.240 and that's that's the vibe or who's what I've been 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.240 told by many around the league is just they're not 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.160 wild by next year's class. Um, you know, the North 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.400 Carolina kid. Um. You know, we'll see if the Oklahoma 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.760 quarterback can you know, really develop in you know, the 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.640 next season, so much will be dependent on what happened 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.720 next year and the steps that these guys take. But 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.080 you know, there's no feel at least at this point. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.760 There's no Trevor Lawrence. Uh, there's you know, no that guy. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.280 But you know, there wasn't a Joe Burrow Um, you know, 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.840 going into his senior year. So you know, we just 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.880 don't know. But I think it's interesting with atlantup because 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.360 they're in a spot with a brand new regime, new 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.080 head coach, new general manager. You know, they they could 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.320 absolutely start building for the future. And if they take 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:55.240 a quarterback at number four and it plays out you 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.160 know like this where a quarterbacks go one, two, three, four, 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.400 that'll be the first time it's ever happened. We've never 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.800 seen that before. We've had it happened where quarterbacks go one, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.080 two three, but number one, two, three four. I think 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.000 with Atlanta, though, with a new regime coming in first 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.760 year general manager, you want to hit on this pick 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.080 more than anything, and I think adding Pennay Sewell to 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.800 upgrade that offensive line from the get go, Atlanta can 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.920 still compete. I mean, yes, they need to get better 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.160 on defense, but you add an offensive line piece like 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.200 Pennai Suel Matt Ryan is not going to go down 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.240 without a fight. He still has weapons a throw to. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.800 You make some additions, upgrades on defense and free agency, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.120 Atlanta can make some noise in that division. So, uh, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.480 you know that the Atlanta is in an interesting spot 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.160 where they can still compete and you know, maybe not 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.120 go the quarterback route even though they do have a 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.480 top five pick. So let's ask another quick question. Yeah, 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.040 go for Katie. Those are real quick. So in all, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.880 a lot of these Mark Jeff scenarios, you know, and 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.800 in this one we have the Cowboys taking Patrick Surtan. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.000 If we had to rank if say the four quarterbacks 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.800 win earlier, if you had to rank for Dan or 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.800 Jeff or whoever, if you had to rank Patrick Certain, 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.920 Caleb Farley, Pine Sewell or a Shawn Slater, how would 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.640 you rank those four prospects overall for the Cowboys or 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.840 just in a in a vacuum in a vacuum. But 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.400 but you know that we know the Cowboys are thinking 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.840 about these guys because those are possibly positions of need 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.080 at least at least off it's tackles possible, right, Yeah, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.240 I mean I know for me, I Sewell would be 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.719 my top guy and then it would be a debate 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:37.280 between Slater and Farley for the next for the next player. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.200 But you know, Sewell, I think is just he's He's 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.359 a premier offensive lineman who is not even close to 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.360 playing his best football yet. You know he doesn't turn 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.320 twenty one and t October. Just there's so much ability 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.040 there and you know that's there's just a lot that 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.320 you can do with the player like that. So Sewell 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.240 will definitely be my guy. And then it would be 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.080 a debate between Slater and Farley who who would number 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:03.000 two be on that list. I'm interested in the fact 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.040 that you said Slater and Farley next and not certain 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.400 Is that corrected? Did I hear that right? Or did 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.199 I hear it the other way? No? Yeah, I like 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.840 Certain Um, I just I like Slater Farley just a 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.680 little bit more. Yeah, I mean, I go for it, Dane. Sorry, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.840 didn't mean to catch you off. It's it's a situation 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.880 where you're, you know, the better player versus a better prospect. 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.960 I mean Caleb Farley, I think when you know we've 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.919 talked about before, talk about his athleticism, that size the 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.760 ball awareness, how much better you think he's going to 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:41.080 get still with Curtan. I think he's a top fifteen 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.800 player in this draft. Uh just you know, he's missing 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.480 a little bit of that speed element that you want 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.680 and missing a little bit of that twitch, but he 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.399 consistently stays in phase, he finds the football. Uh you know, 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.480 he's a guy who's ready to step in from day 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.440 want to be a starter for you. So I mean, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.000 I don't want to sound like it'd be a bad 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.320 pick if they went that to direction, but when you 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.800 stack those four players, I think he'd probably be the 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.439 fourth of the group. But it's four really good players 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.520 right there. So based off of what you said and 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.080 having Slater ahead of Curtan, Certan was the pick for 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.200 the Cowboys in this mock draft. At ten, they stayed put. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.320 They took Sirtan. Now Farley and Sewell were off the board. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.200 Farley went one pick prior number nine to Denver and 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.760 then Sewell win earlier than draft to Atlanta at pick 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.040 number four. Slater was still on the board here and 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.480 even you talk about a fun trade. Slater went two 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.440 picks later to the New York Jets after they traded 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.080 in your mock draft, after they traded a first round 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.480 pick number twenty three overall in Sam Darnold in order 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.600 to get up and get that pick from San Francisco. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.120 Why was that the case in terms of curtain going 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.480 to Dallas and then also showing that other teams value 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:56.720 as highly as they do. Ris Shawn's later, Well, I 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.520 think first off, the question was Slater is going to 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.000 be for a lot of teams. Can you play tackle? Um, 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:05.800 there's there's I know there are some teams that have 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.760 him on the board as a guard center, so you know, 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.600 the Cowboys might be one of those teams. I don't know, uh, 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.959 you know, And if they don't think he can play tackle, 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.720 then maybe that changes the conversation a little bit um. 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.040 You know, not that you don't draft a guard at 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.680