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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brett Wood, the writer and director of The Seventh Daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thank you for coming back for the second

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<v Speaker 1>of three bonus episodes, one in which I'll share some

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<v Speaker 1>scenes that were removed from the podcast prior to its release.

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<v Speaker 1>M h after what is now episode five Paradise, there

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<v Speaker 1>was to be an episode entitled The Lecture. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an episode devoted mostly to Albert von Schrienk Notzing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thoroughly fascinated by this person. Yes, he was a real person,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to represent more of the research he

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<v Speaker 1>was conducting, which I did by quoting directly and extensively

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<v Speaker 1>from his book Phenomena of Materialization. The English language publication

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen twenty, so it's perfectly situated in the period

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with. One purpose of the Lecture was to

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<v Speaker 1>explain what a cabinet sitting was, how it works, the

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<v Speaker 1>dimensions of a cabinet, the process of performing a seyance,

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<v Speaker 1>and a more detailed description of teleplasm and the kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of ghosts that appear in episode eight. The intention was

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<v Speaker 1>that by having this lengthy primer in cabinet sittings, the

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<v Speaker 1>listener would better understand what's going on in the episode

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<v Speaker 1>that would come next the Cabinet. But it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>listeners didn't really need all that explanation, and there really

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<v Speaker 1>was no reason for the descriptions of other Cabinet sittings

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<v Speaker 1>other than to satisfy my love for medical curiosities. Gentleman, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>come to order if you please. I recognize you were

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<v Speaker 1>all quite eager to listen to today's lecture, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is with great pride and no small expense at the

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<v Speaker 1>mid Atlantic College of Medicine brings to you are esteemed

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<v Speaker 1>guest more than ten years. Baron von Shrink is sought

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<v Speaker 1>truth in the fantastical, determined to provide a scientific explanation

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<v Speaker 1>for the inexplicable. Since nineteen o nine he has attended

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<v Speaker 1>seances and cabinet sittings by the world's most celebrated mediums,

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<v Speaker 1>blowing the most advanced scientific and photographic tools. Is documented

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<v Speaker 1>telekinetic phenomena, teleplast phenomena, and established the principles by which

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<v Speaker 1>mediumistic occurrences are to day substantiated. Welcome, Fry, have one

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<v Speaker 1>Shrink not si. Thank you Dr Hubert for the flattering introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've come today to hear my pronouncement as to

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<v Speaker 1>the existence of a psychical realm what we come and

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<v Speaker 1>be called the beyond. I am afraid I must disappoint

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<v Speaker 1>you as impressive and convincing as are the many psychical

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<v Speaker 1>manifestations I have witnessed. The evidence remains inconclusive, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you without reservation that we also cannot disprove

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<v Speaker 1>the existence of a spiritual realm. Far too much evidence

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<v Speaker 1>exists for us to dismiss such a thing based on

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<v Speaker 1>a lack of physical, tangible, quantifiable evidence, or the exposure

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<v Speaker 1>of solatans whose selfish greed clouds are research with their

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<v Speaker 1>theatrical illusions and parlor tricks. The Charlatan is the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>of science and must be exposed, must be disproven, and

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<v Speaker 1>must be driven in shame back to the den of

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<v Speaker 1>thieves from thence they emerged. Today, I will present to

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<v Speaker 1>you case histories of two mediums who have the potential

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<v Speaker 1>to throw open the doors of perception and allow us

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<v Speaker 1>to interact with the psychical realm. If you will deem

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<v Speaker 1>the lights please, I have prepared a series of lantern

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<v Speaker 1>slides to illustrate Plate one. You are no doubt already

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with this woman known publicly as Eva See undoubtedly

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<v Speaker 1>the most gifted and consistently successful spirit medium. More than

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred scientific men have had the pleasure of observing

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<v Speaker 1>Eva Sees talents. Plate two is a diagram of the

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<v Speaker 1>parlor in which the sittings occur. The medium sits there,

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<v Speaker 1>encased on three sides by an enclosure of black drapes

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<v Speaker 1>known as the cabinet. The medium's hands remain visible at

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<v Speaker 1>old times, usually gripping the sides of the curtains that

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<v Speaker 1>frame the front side of the cabinet. Plate three. Eva

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<v Speaker 1>is brought to the cabinet, already submerged in a hypnotic state.

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<v Speaker 1>A female assistant guides her to her seat in the cabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>She closes the front curtains, careful that her hands remained

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<v Speaker 1>visible at old times, and opens them. Then she feels

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<v Speaker 1>the materialization is about to commence. Plate four. Just before

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<v Speaker 1>the phenomenon occurs, painful sensations are experienced on the part

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<v Speaker 1>of the medium. She sighs and groans and recalls the

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<v Speaker 1>condition of a woman in the act of parturition. These

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<v Speaker 1>paroxysms vary from expressions of misery to exstas e. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the materializations do appear. It usually occurs as follows. Plate five.

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<v Speaker 1>A substance emanates from the body of the medium. It

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<v Speaker 1>externalizes itself and is a morphous or polymorphous. In the

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<v Speaker 1>first instance, its appearance is generally announced by the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of fluid, viteent luminous flakes. The substance itself emanates from

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<v Speaker 1>the whole body of the medium, but especially from the

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<v Speaker 1>natural orifices and the extremities, from the top of the head,

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<v Speaker 1>from the breasts and the tips of the fingers. The

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<v Speaker 1>most usual origin, which is most easily observed, is from

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth. Place six. The substance occurs, sometimes as a

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<v Speaker 1>true protoplastic mass, sometimes in the form of numerous thinned threads,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes as cords of various thicknesses, or in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of a woven material with indefinite and irregular outlines. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it moves slowly up or down across the medium, on

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<v Speaker 1>her shoulders or her breast, or on her knees, with

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<v Speaker 1>a creeping motion resembling that of a reptile. Plate seven.

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<v Speaker 1>A mass of teleplasm emerging from the medium's hands. Plate

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<v Speaker 1>eight e merchants of teleplastic material like luminous cloudy ribbons

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<v Speaker 1>suspended from the mouth and nose of the medium. Plate nine,

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<v Speaker 1>A nebulous mass has formed on the right neck and

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder of the medium, taking the form of a second

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<v Speaker 1>human head. The publication of these findings by myself and

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<v Speaker 1>others has caused skeptics to question the veracity of the

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<v Speaker 1>images and the materializations themselves. My response has been to

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<v Speaker 1>impose even greater controls upon the conditions under vich the

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<v Speaker 1>sittings occur, and to make greater demands upon the medium

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<v Speaker 1>herself to dispel any skepticism there may be. Eva C

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<v Speaker 1>has consented to perform her sittings nude except for a

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<v Speaker 1>black cloth draped over her abdomen and feet. If any

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<v Speaker 1>medium can rival the materializations produced by Eva C, that

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<v Speaker 1>person would be Stana Slava. P I first examined her

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<v Speaker 1>when she was eighteen years of age, still a virgin,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet distracted by the obligations of family, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result in fum command of her psychical abilities. After

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<v Speaker 1>the sitting, Stanaslava submitted herself to a lady physician, and

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<v Speaker 1>this physician provided me with a virginity certificate concerning the

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<v Speaker 1>medium Eva C. By comparison is twenty six years and

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<v Speaker 1>passed what is considered scientifically speaking, a medium's prime plate. Twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanislava arrived in the parlor wearing a blue dressing gown

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more. Before every sitting, the young girl went into

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<v Speaker 1>a separate room, accompanied by the author's wife or some

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<v Speaker 1>other lady, who superintended her toilette. There she undressed completely

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<v Speaker 1>and put on the seance costume, a black treacle suit

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<v Speaker 1>which has been tailored to conform to her body. This gaunment,

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<v Speaker 1>prepared at the suggestion of a Paris physician, consists of

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<v Speaker 1>one piece and has only one opening at the back,

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<v Speaker 1>from the vaist to the neck. The feet are enclosed

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<v Speaker 1>as stockings vns. The medium is inside. The back of

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<v Speaker 1>the costume is laced together from the junction of the

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<v Speaker 1>tights at the buttocks up to the color, and the

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<v Speaker 1>knot is lead sealed. The medium's mouth was closely examined

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<v Speaker 1>by means of a spatula to which an electric lamp

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<v Speaker 1>was attached. Her sin is cavities were tested by having

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<v Speaker 1>her blow her nose horsefully through a handkerchief. One lastile,

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<v Speaker 1>then another. It is the application of signs to determine

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<v Speaker 1>with absolute certainty that no deception by means of hidden

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<v Speaker 1>objects is taking place. This is, after all, science, not

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<v Speaker 1>simple more bi curiosity. After each sitting, I provide an

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<v Speaker 1>emetic of my own form relation, which enables me to

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<v Speaker 1>examine the contents of the woman's stomach. A black hood

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<v Speaker 1>is placed over her head and sewn into the color

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<v Speaker 1>of the suit in stitches tight enough that a fingertip

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be pushed between them. White gloves to preserve visibility,

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<v Speaker 1>and the lamplight are sown onto the sleeves of the garment.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus attired completely encased in transparent fabric from head to foot,

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<v Speaker 1>the medium is let to their cabinet. Hypnotization performed by

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<v Speaker 1>my self. River, keep your eyes fixed on the glow

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<v Speaker 1>of the candle. Then I moved the candle. Follow the

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<v Speaker 1>flame with your eyes, while keeping your head perfectly still.

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<v Speaker 1>And though your eyes remain open, your vision feel duck

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind begins to recede into the shadows of

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<v Speaker 1>the unconscious. The medium's hands grasped the curtain and remained

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<v Speaker 1>visible during the whole sitting. Suddenly she commences to vapor

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<v Speaker 1>names muscular efforts, and I can cries of pain. The

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<v Speaker 1>hands become cool. Efforts continue mediumistic labor. A vite about

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<v Speaker 1>half a yard long, penetrates the veil before our eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and places itself upon her left upper arm. At the

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<v Speaker 1>next opening of the curtain, a substance hangs in broad

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<v Speaker 1>strips out of the mouth, and at the lower end

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<v Speaker 1>a finger seems to be attached to it. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>also see it? Look at the bottom, just the tip

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<v Speaker 1>of a finger. A finger tip has materialized from the teleplasm,

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<v Speaker 1>a thick, soft cloud of solid substance diaphonos luminous, simply

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<v Speaker 1>extra and up. The pain is unbearable, saslava. You've performed wfully.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you. After the lecture, we find that

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<v Speaker 1>not all medical authorities share of one shrink's belief in

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<v Speaker 1>psychical realms. The headmaster provided a welcome voice of skepticism

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<v Speaker 1>in the face of Albert's blind faith. Have a seat, Albert,

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<v Speaker 1>you have our little talk before they whisk you away

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<v Speaker 1>to some dinner engagement. That was quite some lecture you

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<v Speaker 1>gave today, Thank you, sir. Sensation. One might say it's

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<v Speaker 1>read to have the entire gallery food students standing in

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<v Speaker 1>the aisles, and the more lectures like this, and we

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<v Speaker 1>may need to admission I'll take that as a compliment, Sir,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't necessarily I beg your pardon. It's just that

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<v Speaker 1>when something attracts this much public attention, is this sensational?

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<v Speaker 1>One asked a question whether it is legitimate field of study.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe you're jealoist. I can't help but feel

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<v Speaker 1>that this area of study does not long in an

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<v Speaker 1>academy of matters. Dr Hubert. This is academic inquiry. This

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<v Speaker 1>is science calling something science does not make its science.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest with one another. What's your studying as

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<v Speaker 1>theoretical at best? But how can you properly investigate something

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<v Speaker 1>for which there is no physical levity? In my I've

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<v Speaker 1>compelled volumes. My phenomenal Materialist is his five d pages long.

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<v Speaker 1>It provides page after page of evidence. Besides, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>see or touch electromagnetic waves. There was the evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>gravity before Isaac Newton. A heliocentric solar system was there,

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<v Speaker 1>but people didn't yet know how to interpret it. And

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence is here, and I'm trying to develop a

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<v Speaker 1>means of understanding it. Don't uset yourself, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have my work ridiculed by someone of such narrow vision.

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<v Speaker 1>My vision may be narrower, but at least my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are open. What do you mean by that? I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>if i hair, but at times your confidence in these

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<v Speaker 1>spirit medium's views misguided. The ghostly faces she summons her

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<v Speaker 1>obviously photographs cut from newspapers and hidden about her persons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no possible place since which she hide them. She

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<v Speaker 1>has been thoroughly searched, either by myself or Madame Pison,

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<v Speaker 1>who usually examines the intimate areas of Eva's boss. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see for yourself. There are pieces of paper, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you publish the images, there were skeptics who located

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<v Speaker 1>the additions of the papers from which they were taken.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Hubert. She is producing an earthly representation of something

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<v Speaker 1>that has no physical form. For us to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see it with our own eyes, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>assume some physical substance that we can understand. Paper is

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<v Speaker 1>a substance we can see. So the spirit materialization often

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<v Speaker 1>takes the form of ordinary paper. But in one photograph

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<v Speaker 1>would you yourself published? We see headlines printed on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the paper. The apparition, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it, how do you possibly explain? Yes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>said the materializations travel through Eva, she physical licensed them,

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<v Speaker 1>and she must do this by conjuring materials that resemble

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<v Speaker 1>materials from our world familiar to Eva and the participants

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<v Speaker 1>in the sitting. The teleprism that On curls from her

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<v Speaker 1>nose and mouth may look like Cartonville, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit assuming a physical form, a physiccle form that

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<v Speaker 1>our minds can actually see and try to comprehend. Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you shaking your head because I am trying very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to understand you, but cannot. Am I so difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the students in lectures seem to have You

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<v Speaker 1>are either the biggest fool the world has ever known

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<v Speaker 1>to be taken in by all this humbug dare you Sechurch?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you are the most clever purveyor of humbug the

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<v Speaker 1>world has ever known. I mean, Phineas T. Barnum is

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<v Speaker 1>an amateur compared to you, Baron von Schrink. If this

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<v Speaker 1>is the case, in some part of me would like

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<v Speaker 1>to commend you. Well, if you excuse me, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a third option. You believe in it because you want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be true, either because the professional rewards it

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<v Speaker 1>could bring to you, and because you were so desperate

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<v Speaker 1>for some assurance of the existence of an afterlife and

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<v Speaker 1>a spirit world. That you have convinced yourself it is real,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will not allow yourself to entertain the slightest

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<v Speaker 1>doubt as to its authenticity. Mm hmm, which are you,

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<v Speaker 1>Baron von Schrink. I love the world of the Seventh

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter and would love to have the opportunity someday to

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<v Speaker 1>further flesh it out, tell the backstory of Caglios, reveal

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<v Speaker 1>what happens next to Pearl. Hopefully I Heart Radio will

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<v Speaker 1>consider the show successful enough to warrant another season. If

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<v Speaker 1>you would like that to happen, one simple thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do is go on iTunes or Apple podcasts and

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<v Speaker 1>leave a star rating and even write a review. It

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<v Speaker 1>helps to show that The Seventh Daughter has listeners who

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<v Speaker 1>care about the characters and want to hear more from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's one more bonus episode to come. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>present more deleted scenes. No, it's something really special for

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<v Speaker 1>the super fan and I'm not going to say anything

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<v Speaker 1>more about it. Just tune in you'll see This is

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Wood and I thank you for listening to these

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<v Speaker 1>bonus episodes and for supporting the Seventh Daughter as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>The Seventh Daughter is a production of I Heart Radio

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