1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I've been through so much this, I've lost so many 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: friends that I grew up with this not here. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: I have to I have to represent for them. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: So I don't get. I don't get. I don't get 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: a chance to have a bad day. If I had 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: a bad day, stay your ass in the fucking house, 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Do not come outside and make someone else's day bad. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: So that's why. 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: So it's intentional. Yes, that's why I want to smile. 10 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: I want a person to see me and. 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Say, manuse and. 12 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: You know what, all the bad things about me, Google 13 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: ain't even got it because you know why I superseded that. 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: I can't. 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: You can't show much, you can't move back. I got 16 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: to keep going forward. I gotta keep going forward. If 17 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: the minute I stop and I say, yo, man, this 18 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: is not right, and I can plain to you, not 19 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: you necessarily, but play to you, then. 20 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: That person has it. 21 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Negative energy is contagious. So if negative energy is contagious, 22 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: positivity has to be the same. 23 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: What if I told you there was more to the 24 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: story behind game changing events? Get ready for my new podcast, 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: That Moment with Damon John will jump into the personal 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: stories of some of the most influential people on the planet, 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: from business mobiles and celebrities to athletes and artists. 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: He looks at me in my face and he says, 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: if you listen to me, you'll be number one. And 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I said, and he said, if you listen to me, 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: you'll be number one. This guy wound up being for 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: Bret Williams. 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: You got the bar? 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And he produced this record for me named 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: super Dog. I'm gonna make it make sense. And as 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: soon as I heard the beat, I was. 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: Like, what what what what? What? 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: What? 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? 40 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: But in my mind I was counting bars. That's how 41 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: I counted bars. So I was like, I was like, 42 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: this is pretty much my story. Mister Legal like, uh so, 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: so I'm on the record saying what what what? 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: What? What? What? 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: But I laid the whole record down and I say, yo, Fara. 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: He wasn't far at the time. I don't even know 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: what I was calling him, but I was like, Yo, 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: all we gotta do is come up with a hook 49 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: and we're good. And he says to me, we got 50 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: the hook. It's what you said on there. And I'm like, no, 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: they're all gonna laugh at me. And he said, and 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: we're going to be laughing all the way to the bank. 53 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: And it was at that moment. 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: That I took. 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Life serious because here's this unknown producer. 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: He's unknown at the time. Like by the way, Chad 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: was he part of the Nepto. It was Chad Williams. 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: I was about to say, so, that's why I say 59 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: on the record N E P t U and s 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Neptune is Lacey to be like one of the best. 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: I say that on the record. But it was that 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: moment that I made this record because what I noticed 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: was when I was going out and I was performing 64 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: these records, I had nothing, nothing for the South. 65 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: Like when I went to the South, people in the South. 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: And just look at me like because I didn't have 67 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: a record to perform for them. I was performing T 68 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: O N Y Invade and Why, and They're like, we 69 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: ain't on that cool New York Shire. 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: They want to get they wanted. 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: So it was from that moment that I made that 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: record that I said, you know what, I'm gonna cater 73 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: to my audience. I'm gonna I'm gonna make music that 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: I want to perform too, Like if you're listening to 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Bust of Rhymes, I know I'm all over the place now, 76 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: But they don't listen to bust of Rhymes. You can 77 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: tell Buster made this record because he wants to perform 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: it and he wants to bust your ass on that stake. 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: You listen to red Man. They make records to perform. 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: That was that moment that you asked me. I was 81 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: like after I met Pharrell, because he literally told me 82 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna throw cheers to this, and I wanted them 83 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: to throw chairs, so I was like, yes, I'm with that. 84 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: So I was like yes, And. 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: It's two calls that Pharah gave me that that that 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: that this is one of them and the others with 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, remember that asked me that. 88 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: Well, he called me and he said they're fucking throwing. 89 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Chairs, and I was like, I didn't think he meant 90 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: it literally, and he's like whatever FaceTime was back then 91 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, like he had. 92 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: The video of it. I was like, Yo, look they're 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: fucking throwing cheers. 94 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: And then the record label called me and said you're 95 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: number one. At the same time he called me said 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: you're number one, and I was like, I did it. 97 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: I did what I what I said I was gonna do. 98 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: I said, you know what. And another thing was, you know, 99 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: I was with nothing but Queensbridge Cats at the time, right, 100 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of the Queens queens Bridges. 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: Not a laid back hood at all. It's not a 102 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: laid back hood. 103 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: But Nas was laid back, Prodigy was laid back, Havoc 104 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: was laid back. Component is smooth, and I was just like, 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not one of them, like meaning 106 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: in a bad way. I discovered myself and that's what 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: that was? 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: That what what? What? What? What was like me coming out? 109 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you another thing, which is this is 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: gonna sound crazy. The people thought for RELs was a gangster? 111 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: How did they think that? I have no idea jay 112 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: Z stuff? No, this is way be for this is 113 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: way before jay Z. People didn't know that neptune sound 114 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: at that time, so all they heard was and then 115 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the head is God, this is a life y'all of 116 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: a superstar. Penalty did a lunching to play this new 117 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: single that I got. Do you know, every single DJ 118 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: said that record is not gonna work, really every single 119 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: because at that time it sounded dark and for real, 120 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: sounded like a gangster. And they was like, you're going 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: too hard on this gainster ship and. 122 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, if you meet the guy, yeah, did you 123 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: see him? And they're like Seemunity Factory. They're like, yeah, 124 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: that's too rough for us. 125 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: So when I made that album, the reason why we 126 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: didn't go platinum, like pun went platinum out the gate, 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: I was jealous, do your maximum platinum out the gate? 128 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Also jealous, I had the I went slow platinum. You 129 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: were early though. 130 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: We came out the same time. We came out the 131 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: same time. It was the sound starting to change right then, Well, 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: I changed the motherfucking sound right. 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: I changed the motherfucking sounds exactly right. And and I 134 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: remember this to this day. I remember a big ticket 135 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: coming up to me because we did I did Superdug, 136 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: and the Superdug was so much a success. The recording 137 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: will say, hey man, I remember Forelle going from here 138 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: to here, and we had to pay it. So we 139 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: went in there and I did another record and it's 140 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: called oh No with Pharrell with Neptunes, my most played 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: record by the way. Ever, this is nineteen ninety nine 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: going into two thousand. I remember a big ticket coming 143 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: up to me and said the. 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: Neptunes would never work tig and yeah, he. 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Avoids this question every time I bring this suck because 146 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: he knows, he said, because you got to remember what 147 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: sounded like. Oh no, so he's like, yeah, they giving 148 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: you the same type of beats. 149 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: All they beats sound the same. 150 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: I registered that in my mind because I knew he 151 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: was wrong. But he thought, like that Big Ticket who 152 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: was running Rap City at the in the basement. 153 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: If the Ticket thought like. 154 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: That, I thought the world would think like that. 155 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: He was wrong. 156 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that he was wrong, and I'm glad 157 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: I stuck with it. And then after oh no, guess 158 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: guess who wants to work with Neptunes Now everybody, everybody, 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: including it's documented I was first, and it's documented that 160 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: I brung this to the games now, so I'm sorry, 161 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I get you back a show. 162 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: I'll get you back your show. What you got, you 163 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: got me hYP now get at it. I was. 164 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: I would pick Neptunes. I tried to get. I took 165 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Neptunes to Dame Dash, I took Neptunes to Electra, I 166 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: took Neptunes to everyone. 167 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: You know what people was telling me why they shirted 168 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: that type, they were judging that. 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: And then years later all these record labels was running 170 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: down to. 171 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: Give him beats so almost famous songs. Fatty girl. Guess 172 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: who came out with that? That's right, that's right? Bring 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: absolutely yeah, and as my partner calls running that regula. 174 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: But we had done the RECU label not for the 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: form of uh, you know, to to and hopefully to 176 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: make money of a record, but we want people know 177 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: that we weren't just a clothing line. We could embody 178 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: the culture. And a guy named Kenny Burns Atlanta, he said, hey, 179 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: let me put this little dj on your on your stuff, 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: and he did three tracks, this guy named a Little 181 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: John and guess who want to work with everybody after 182 00:09:35,520 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: Little John was on outre Yeah, so we love that 183 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: part of hip hop. But let me ask him because 184 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: I remember we were talking about it was that moment 185 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: that Barrell gave you the kind of the knowledge should 186 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: really dig deep into looking at the past, the current 187 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: and how you're going to effectively work it correct. 188 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Right because because you know why that that record, which 189 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: if you think about it, there's a South record with a. 190 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 2: New York guy on it. And he gave me the. 191 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: Confidence that I am not just for the hoods. He's 192 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: like you belong to the world. It's just the world 193 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: who fuck with you? 194 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: You? You looked at the analytics and one he was else. 195 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: He called me, and I thought it was disrespectful at 196 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: the time. He was like, you're one of hip hop's 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: best characters. And I was like, I didn't want to 198 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: be a character, like I wanted to be a person. 199 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: And I took it the wrong way. But now in retrospect, 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: he was right. It goes back to doing what you love. Man, 201 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: You were making me for yourself. You know another person 202 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: who says something very similar. I remember Pitt Pitt Bullet 203 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: said he was on and you know, I don't know 204 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: where you think of him as in ur as a 205 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: lot I mean as a as a street rapper. A 206 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize he was known pit Bull 207 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: because he was a battler. And I remember he was 208 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: on a set and he said that he was going 209 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: hard against Dragon DMX and Jay or something like that 210 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: on a on a video set and he went, really, 211 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: he was going all day, Who's next? 212 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: I mean, just trying to go out and IRV God. 213 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: He comes out and goes, yo, you keep it, he say, yo, 214 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: because I'm keeping real, man. I'm carrying these castle shint 215 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: you know you know her is because we're gonna get 216 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: into some of your favorite podcasts. Idiot, you're never gonna 217 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: make money keeping it real and walks away. Wow, And 218 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: I remember Bull and I remember Pitt saying that, he said, 219 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: what do I want to listen to? You know what 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm coming. I'm coming from such a nasty place if 221 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: people want to party too, and why don't I use 222 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: that skill of being an ill rapper to party and 223 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: then boom out of here? And a lot of other 224 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: other rappers was like, oh, you ain't keeping it real? 225 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: You but you know he's doing the Pharrell thing and 226 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: doing what he loves exactly that all right? So so 227 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: we established that man thinking, I love I love the 228 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: fact of that morning. I got it. I got I 229 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: want to now ask you a little bit about just 230 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: some entertainment, man, because what are the what are the 231 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: top what are the most be Yeah a lot you 232 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: have me on on one of your sessions, But what 233 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: is the more memorable drink Champ interviews you had Kanye? 234 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: Kanye was because I remember I heard Ice Ice was 235 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: kind of Ice Sye was a little he. 236 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: Was a little ill too. 237 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Icey was ill, Well, Kanye, I mean because Kanye gave 238 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: us a moment like he gave us. I mean, I 239 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: love let me ask you a question correctly. But what 240 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean this, Yeah, I thoroughly enjoy all of this. 241 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: I thoroughly think that hip hoppers and people clothing are superheroes. 242 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: Like I believe that, right. I believe we're not normal people. 243 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: So I like to get people to flowers. So what 244 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: has down. One of the standout moments is we just 245 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: had Steven A. 246 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: Smith. That's one of them. 247 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: It ain't come out yet, it'll be out soon, but 248 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: the ones that is out is Kanye was Why was 249 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: it because it surprised you? Wasn't how much everything the 250 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: first one, the first one, the first interview we had 251 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: with Yay was perfect. He gave me one of my 252 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: one of the biggest compliments ever. He came up to 253 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: me after the interview and that there it had came out, 254 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: and he said, I think you got black people to 255 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: like me again. 256 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: Nice. 257 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I was like, that's too much of an honor. Like 258 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, wait a minute, I don't know, 259 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I about want that. 260 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: And then he was like black women now says hi 261 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: to me, and I'm guessing like black. 262 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: Women wasn't saying hi to me. I didn't know. I 263 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: didn't know this. But one thing about Kanye, he don't lie, 264 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: you know. 265 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: When he said that to me, I was like, that 266 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: was a big compliment. But then the second one, the 267 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: second interview was such a roller coaster and such a learning. 268 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: Experience that. 269 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: I now I now know what I'm doing. I just like, 270 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: remember the other experience I had to learn, so now 271 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: I know now I know how to edit. 272 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: We wouldn't edit before. 273 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: I wish I wouldn't have edited it that one. 274 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: We take pride in our editing. 275 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: But when that one dropped, and it was my fault too, 276 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: because not my fault, well, my fault was when both 277 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: times Ya did our interview, he called me nine o'clock 278 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: at night and said, I'll be there seven o'clock in 279 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: the morning. 280 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: Right, weird hours, right, great? Great for me. I love 281 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: I'm a morning guy. Right this time, it was so huge. 282 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: We beat football, like we dropped it on Sunday, and 283 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: our numbers were bigger than football number us. 284 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: That's right, and that's a fact on. 285 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: That's that's the level when I say that, you know 286 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: your your podcast is your content, right right. So so 287 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: to answer your question, was that was like the most 288 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: standout because it was good, bad and ugly. You know 289 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: what I mean is when he said that he said 290 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: I can he said this, I just said, Claire, he 291 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: said this. Yeah, he said he could talk about certain 292 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: people when he wouldn't get canceled, and boy I watched. 293 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: I would have edited that part. I would have edited 294 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: that part. 295 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: And I figured, like I figured, like, you know, like 296 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: if you fuck him on your show, I'm responsible for 297 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: what I say, but to a certain stint, not really 298 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: you share this with me. So if I say something crazy, 299 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: the people that I offend are gonna be. 300 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Mad at you too. That's right. 301 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you let it, you let it, see through promoted it, yes, 302 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: And I didn't know that at that time. That wasn't 303 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: even lesson for me. Like I was like, oh, okay, 304 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: he's just crazy and this was on him and I 305 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: was wrong. That shit fell on me after I couldn't 306 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: go nowhere, They're like, man, good Kanye West interview, and 307 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if they. 308 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: Being funny, like man, you fucked up. So that's that's 309 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: the that's one of the biggest. One last question, and 310 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna tell you this thinking that something because 311 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: I said, why you and I here because I didn't 312 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: know that Acinello is from Queens. I want you and 313 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: I to go and back and forth to think about 314 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: how many rappers we know it from Queens? I should 315 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: So I got one last question. I see you, I 316 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: see you. I've been seeing you a lot lately. And 317 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: wherever I see you, it's usually a restaurant and you're 318 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: usually there, uh taste, yeah, yeah, yeah, You're enjoying yourself. 319 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: Your level of success has uh has risen continuously over years. 320 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure you've had your step back time. 321 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: You're enjoying life. I think that what you do on 322 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: I think why your while your while your content is 323 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: so strong, This is what you do naturally. But I 324 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: got one other question. How have you been so pleasant? 325 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 2: Or is this with me? Everybody knows you being one 326 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: one of the most pleasant people, just like Robert on 327 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: my show, Robert super Pleasant. Don't fuck with them though? 328 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: How have you been so pleasant in such a nasty 329 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: industry of music, Hollywood entertainment. How have you managed that 330 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: continuous energy and spirit because you've had to deal with 331 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: a lot of negative things like all of us. No 332 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 2: matter what you do, how you what? What is the 333 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: thought process in that? Because you come at it with 334 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: a very you somebody, I want to root for you 335 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: when I see you, I don't get what you do. Ye, 336 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: thank you. 337 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: I I lost, and when you lose, you enjoy the wins, 338 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like like put it like this. 339 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: I started to realize there's more losers than winners. 340 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, every year. 341 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: There's what twenty six football teams thirty two thirty two? 342 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: How many wins? One? So for that year, everyone else 343 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: is losers? Right? Did I kill that? Yeah? 344 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: No matter how much, they can only be one winner 345 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: a year. I lost so much that now that I'm 346 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: for like I'm in a winning year, I gotta I 347 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: gotta act like a winner. If I have a bad day, 348 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't come outside. You know, I'm not warrants to 349 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: come outside. And let's put somebody I really changed someone's life. 350 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: It's too too too. 351 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: I got a too to tow on like I I 352 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: might have really changed somebody's life. There's people who come 353 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: up to me and be like, yo, man, you got 354 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: me through some tough times. You think they you think 355 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: they want to see me, this guy who just said 356 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: he got me through some tough times. And I'm like, hey, man, 357 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: I ain't taking no picture. 358 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: Nah man. If I'm the only time I don't take 359 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: a picture, if. 360 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm in a bathroom, and even then I'll say, wait, 361 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: meet me outside. 362 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 363 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: I still take it, but I'm like, dude, you're not 364 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: gonna get me in the bathroom, like, take no goddamn picture. 365 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: But I'm not. 366 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I've been through so much this, I've lost so many 367 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: friends that I grew up with this not here. 368 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: I have to. I have to represent for them. So 369 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: I don't get. I don't get. 370 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't get a chance to have a bad day. 371 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: If I had a bad day, stay your ass in 372 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: the fucking house. Do not come outside and make someone 373 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: else's day bad. So that's why. So it's intentional. Yes, 374 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: that's why I want to smile. I want a person 375 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: to see me and say, man, and you know what, 376 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: all the bad things about me, google ain't even got it, 377 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: because you know why, I superseded that. I can't you 378 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: can't show much, you can't move back. I gotta keep 379 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: going forward. I gotta keep going forward. If the minute 380 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: I stop and I say, yo, man, this is not 381 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: right and I can plain to you, not you necessarily, 382 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: but playing to you, then that person has it. Negative 383 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: energy is contagious. So if negative energy is contagious. 384 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: Positivity has to be the same. It is not too positive. 385 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: I smile every time I thought, because I have two 386 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: friends with my one one name Jodie, another name Jared. 387 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: They can't stop smiling. It's a gifted, a curse. So 388 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: that we at a funeral like sorry for ya. 389 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's why I don't feel I feel like 390 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: if you famous, right, yeah, if you famous. 391 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: And you made. 392 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: It, you're not supposed to be a dighead? 393 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: Is that that the wrong people around me? Because I 394 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: always say the same thing when I've seen people say 395 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: get away from me, I don't want to pitch, especially 396 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: the kids, And I go, well, then you shouldn't have 397 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: made that recordor you shouldn't be on that televison. You've 398 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: seen those cameras around you. You know that this is 399 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: what you're trying to do, and that's gonna that's gonna 400 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: hurt you in the long room. You don't know who 401 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: that kid's gonna be and that that's gonna spread just 402 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: as fast. Actually, it spreads fast as sometimes than the positivities. 403 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: Like like I don't I don't like to be filmed 404 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm unaware, right, right, But a couple 405 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I. 406 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: Go to Carbone. 407 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: It's my favorite restaurant, right, papar ROXXI jumps right out. 408 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to swing. I wanted to throw my cup. 409 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: But you know what, the guy got a picture of 410 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: me doing yep, so that ROI had no he. 411 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: Had no idea. 412 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I was offended because I was like, I don't get that, right, peace, 413 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: Let me move on and go get my spicy regged DONI. 414 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: There you go, and I had a great night. 415 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: Well god damn, I killed killed the interview he killed 416 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: I killed you. 417 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: That's not least. Listen, listen, you want to go back 418 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: and boy live with some rappers from Queens. I'm gonna 419 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: go one. You go one to see. I mean, we 420 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: can go. 421 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you first, Okay, alright, alright, run dmc 422 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: warrior flush royal flush Okay, a. 423 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: Music artisanal period that's said, okay, Bernard right, Kenny Anderson 424 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: Kenny Anderson. Uh uh what was uh? Intra? What was 425 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: the Jeff brother's name? Intro? 426 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Smith, Kenny Smith. You said entertainment, Jamaica phone. 427 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: What's his name? Tom Brown? 428 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Uh? 429 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: Mark Jackson? Oh you mean basketball player place Mason, That's 430 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: what that's my next one? Man? 431 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: Uh marb d no capona nor Jega, saltmn pepper, rappernoid 432 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: l tragedy Kadafi lost voice. 433 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: I said rappernoid YEP. I said rappernoid fuck nature onyx 434 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: cor mega fifty cent onyx. I gotta said on you 435 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: said honest? 436 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: Oh fuck you said? You said fifty two? 437 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: Right? Uh tony yea yo ah tony yo yo tony 438 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 2: jarrul fuck all right, hold on, hold on, hold on. 439 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: I said nature, I said come mega yeah, Cormega. 440 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: I didn't say car mega Yeah. 441 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: I said nature, not cor Mega Yeah, DJ clue dj 442 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: envy tribal quest. 443 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: I think we tribals man. 444 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: You get tri tribal quest, tribal question, ship cargo hater, 445 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: you got h what's that? 446 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: What's the speedy guy? The wrapper up? No twister all right, 447 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: he got twisted over it? Dad? Okay, who was your 448 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: last one? 449 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I said, tribe and r E are. 450 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: You already said? Come on in? No, what's the name 451 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: who just passed away from the fat Boys? Uh? The 452 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: Light skin do Prince Moggy they got him? 453 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: Uh? Drink Camps still a different entity. 454 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: There you go. This is at that moment with John 455 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 2: really with Drink Camp whatever, Thank you man. That Moment 456 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: with Damon John is a production of the Black Effect 457 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: Podcast Network. 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