1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello, 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: my Little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with Me, Lance Bass and Turkey Turchin. Hi, 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Turkey Leance. How are you today? 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: I am fantastic. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: We have a fun week of shows. I know, all right, 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: it is all for one week, That's right, I swear 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: it's all for one week. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Oh. 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Super excited to. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: Have these guys because this is so many good songs. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: This is one of the groups that really influenced in 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Sync because this was the era that we all got together. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: We got together ninety five. These guys I think got 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: together ninety three. You know, they're known for their a 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: cappellas and harmonies, and that's what we wanted to do. 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: The ballads, Oh. 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so so good. So we're gonna have 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: the All for One guys on all week long, and 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: starting today, we're gonna start with Jamie Jones, yeah season one, 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: who founded the group, one of the lead singers. 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have Delias and Tony on later 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: on in the week. Alfred couldn't was not available this week. 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I know. 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: That's my man. 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: That's my bass. 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: It's really does all three one, all three one. This 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: week it's all three one week. 30 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Uh, this week has been fun. So Hairspray is in 31 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: town Y Los Angeles and Dolby, which is where they 32 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: do the Oscars, and it is so much fun. You know, 33 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: that was my Broadway debut. I got to play Corny 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Collins and Hairspray, so it was so nice. I haven't 35 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: seen it since my last show, but they, you know, 36 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: came here to LA and uh, what's her name is Edna? 37 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: Nina West is killing it. She was for two years 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: now Nina West, one of the biggest drag queens, is 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: playing Edna and just so good and killed. So if 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: you're in the LA area, definitely go check out Hairspray. 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: And you know it'll be on tour forever. I mean 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: that that show is just so good that it'll always 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: be on tour. So it'll come to a city near you. 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: All right, guys, but let's get right to it because 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: I know we have a lot to talk about, so 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: please welcome to the show. Grammy Award winning singer and 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: acclaimed songwriter producer Jamie Jones. He first set foot on 48 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: his musical path at the age of three, singing in 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: his church choir and performing solos in his hometown of Palmdale, California. 50 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: In ninety three, Jones founded the iconic R and B 51 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: group All for One, becoming one of the quartet's lead 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: singers and the main songwriter behind much of the group's output. 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, All for One crack the Billboard 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Hot one hundred chart with their debut singles So Much 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: in Love, which peaked at number five. The group's second single, 56 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: I Swear, became their biggest hit, reaching number one around 57 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: the world, sitting atop the US charts for nearly three months, 58 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: propelling the group to multi plattinum status. To date, All 59 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: for One has released a total of ten albums and 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: sold over twenty two million records. Jimmy Jones, Welcome to 61 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Frost to Tips. 62 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, thank you for having me. I mean that 63 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: sounded amazing, right, yeah, man, so nice. 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: To be introduced it as Grammy Award winning Jamie Jones. 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: You know, it definitely is a dream come true because 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you've been doing this for a 67 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: long time. I mean it was always the dream when 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: you would watch the Grammys back in the day and 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 2: see all your heroes up there. You know that one 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: day hopefully you'll get a chance to not only be 71 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: up there, but to be in that fraternity. And since 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: you know, music business was my college years, you know 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 74 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: That's what I say too. 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's my fraternity. I love it. 76 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: I just saw you at Ryan Cabrera and Lexi Kaufman's 77 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: one year anniversary. Yes, what a pardon Now. We've talked 78 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: about this on the air because we had Ron and 79 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Lexi on just a few weeks ago and it was 80 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: coming up, so we did. We didn't experience it yet, 81 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: but they threw a nineteen nineties prom yes, and took 82 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: over my club heart and had some really great surprise performances. 83 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: I had no idea that you were going to be 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: performing neither. Oh no, you were just me too, because 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: I performed a song too, and I had no idea 86 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: was a no cluist. 87 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: I was in there, you know, just incognito. Ryan started 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: calling me. I was actually outside eating, you know, is 89 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: somebody calling me. I'm get a little older now, so 90 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. He's so good. I'm like, I think 91 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: somebody next thing, I know, oh he is calling me. 92 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: It was such a moment, especially because I mean we obviously, 93 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: uh you know a kid of the nineties, you know, 94 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: our proms, our dances, I mean all for one was 95 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean the jail. So it was really nice, especially 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: you know what you were saying. We were doing, like 97 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: the slow dance. We did a nice little slow dance 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: to it because I didn't get to go to my 99 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: prom right right. 100 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: That was it, but it was great. 101 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: Now you live in Los Angeles, Yes, yes, did the 102 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: other guys live in Los Angeles? 103 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: At one point, yes, we were all here. You know, 104 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: we actually all met in our in my hometown, which 105 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: is in the Anlol Valley, about an hour away from 106 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Los Angeles North, and so at one point we were 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: all here. But now Delius and Tony are in different states. 108 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: Alfred actually stayed out that way in the Annelo Valley. 109 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: He loved it. He stayed there, his family's there. I'm 110 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: now in the valley. I'm in Woodland Hills. We love 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: the valley. 112 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Everyone always makes fun of the valley, like 113 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: in movies and stuff like, and I love that because 114 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't want people to move to the valley. I 115 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: like that We can. Actually, it's great in places. 116 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: And I was one of those people do when I 117 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: first moved here, I was like, oh, I'm never going 118 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: to go to the Valley. Oh god, it's like a 119 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: light years. 120 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Ago after watching Clueless. Yeah, exactly like the Valley. 121 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 3: No, it's great. 122 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: I love that. 123 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: On this show. It has been fun to hear the 124 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: origin stories of all the groups because we do. I mean, 125 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a fraternity now, all these you know, 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: guy groups throughout the decades, and it's fun to you know, 127 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: hear the parallels of all of our careers. So take 128 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: us back to the very beginning. How did this group start? 129 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: Because I think maybe it started in church? 130 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Kind of yes, yes, So here's what happened. So, as 131 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: you were saying earlier in my terrific intro, I got 132 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: to get a copy of that way when I walk 133 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: in the building, I'm just gonna play it on my 134 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: phone and yeah, yeah, y'all hear this is Lance. So 135 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: I I I started singing at a very early age, 136 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: started singing in church when I was three, start competing 137 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: when I was five. And if you lived in the 138 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: Anelo Valley, you saw me either at a talent show 139 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: at a wedding. I sang at bar Mitscha's, had no 140 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: clue what they were like. I sang anywhere that I 141 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: had an opportunity to hopefully sing for somebody that might 142 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: be able to help me. And throughout that journey I 143 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: entered a talent show at a college with a couple 144 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: of friends of mine at the Anlo Valley College, and 145 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, we had been rehearsing and rehearsing and rehearsing. 146 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: So we get there and the sound guy is I 147 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: mean he is drunk. I mean, like one of my 148 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: uncles at a Christmas party drunk, and there's one microphone working, 149 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: the music's networking. I'm pissed. So we go and we're 150 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: getting ready to do our thing, and right before we 151 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: go on, there's this a cappella group singing so hard 152 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: to say goodbye by bois to men and they're killing it, 153 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: and there's a real bass singer and the lead singer 154 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: is this white guy with this really pure high voice. 155 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, we're gonna lose. So then we 156 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: go up there and try to dance and all that 157 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: with one microphone and it was whack. We lost. But 158 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: in the process I met that group, and the lead 159 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: singer was Tony who was in our group, and the 160 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: bass singers Alfred, and so we exchanged numbers became friends. 161 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: I called them because I had a contact at the 162 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: local radio station hot in ninety seven in the Ald Valley, 163 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: and they asked us if we wanted to sing some 164 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: radio jingles, or asked me if you know, if I 165 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: had some friends and we could do I say yeah, 166 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: So I knew exactly what the call I called them. 167 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: We did radio station jingles together and became friends. We 168 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: would hang out at the mall every day, and you know, 169 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: just eventually I moved in with them. Fast forward, I'm 170 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: in church. And if you knew me, like I grew 171 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: up first Baptist, you know, first missionary Baptist church, and 172 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: my mom made me be in church like four days 173 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: out of the week. 174 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that I've said this before that yeah, 175 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: almost every guy group member started in the church. 176 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: Because you know why. Honestly, the thing I love about 177 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: the church is the church is so supportive and accommodating 178 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: when you're just trying to learn how to sing harmony. 179 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: That's why you learn harmonies or. 180 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: Learning how to have harmonies, but also to sing leads 181 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: and to have the you know, to have the uh, 182 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: the support you need to get up there when you're 183 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: scared and shaking, you know, for these people to be like, 184 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: oh no, baby, sing your song. You know, especially in 185 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: the black churches, they talk back, oh come on baby. 186 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: It's a great way to build your confidence, seriously, you know, 187 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: it's it prepares you to get out and beat do concerts, 188 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: you know. 189 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: And so I was in church and in choir rehearsal 190 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: one evening, and this guy walks in with a friend 191 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: of mine and they come up to me afterwards and 192 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: he says, hey, you know, I'm looking for a little Luther. 193 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: I said, well, the Lord and brought you to the 194 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: right place. And so we get to talking and he 195 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: goes in his pocket. He pulls out cassette and gives 196 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: me a copy of so Much in Love. He says, listen, 197 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: I work for this independent record label and we're looking 198 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: for a group that can sing this song. So I said, well, 199 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: I know exactly who to call. Give me a few days. 200 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: And so in the midst of that, Tony and I 201 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: entered this karaoke show at the end Loo Valley Fairgrounds 202 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: because we were broke and as we're, you know, walking 203 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: up to choose the song we're going to sing, we 204 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: hear this guy with this big old voice and we 205 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: look on the stage and this fool is rolling around 206 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: the ground like he's Patty LaBelle singing at this moment 207 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: by Billy Vera and the beaters. And I said to Tourny, 208 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, we can't let this little guy take 209 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: our money, Like, nah, bro we need this like right 210 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: now we are we are so broke right now that 211 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: we are making tomato soup. How to catch up packets 212 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: in hot water, Like, we got to go get this money. 213 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: So we go up there, man, we sing Ebony and 214 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: Ivory and we take it to church and so we 215 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: all tied and come back for the finals and got 216 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: beat by I don't know, some woman I don't know, 217 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: Slean something I don't know that's neither here or there, 218 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: but you know, yeah, So anyways, long story short, I 219 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: tell them about what the guy from church, of course, 220 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: and we start rehearsing. We go to Six Fags Magic Mountain. 221 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: We spend a whole day walking around this theme park 222 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: singing the song. I mean, from the parking lot to 223 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: the riots bathroom. To the food court everywhere. We're singing 224 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: this song, we get the audition for the label, they 225 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: give us contracts on the spot. That was August of 226 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: ninety three, so we're celebrating thirty years this year. Wow 227 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: and So Much in Love came out in November of 228 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: ninety three. 229 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: That is incredible. I've never heard of a group getting 230 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: together over a song like the song first came Wow. 231 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: But you know the craziest part about it, though, is 232 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: we had all worked for so long individually. You know, 233 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: Like I said, when I tell you, I've been in 234 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: talent shows since I was five years old, I mean 235 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: every weekend, it seemed like I was doing something. So 236 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: by the time I'm seventeen and I get that cassette, 237 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: I was a veteran on this circuit, you know. I 238 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: mean when I first got my first car, I got 239 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: a job just so I can keep gasing it to 240 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: come out here to La to be in talent shows. 241 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: And you know, when I told my parents I had 242 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: gotten a record deal, they didn't believe me because I 243 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: had had so many record deals in quotations before, you know, 244 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: and they had seen my name printed in magazines of 245 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: I'm signed to this artic this label or whatever, and 246 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: nothing had ever happened, you know. So the fact that now, 247 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'm in a singing group and 248 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: it's now happening, you know. I know a lot of 249 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: people thought it was like overnight success, but really, I 250 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: mean we all separately Dealers had moved out from Virginia, 251 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: told his parents he had way more money than he had. 252 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: He had six hundred dollars and a little crappy Chevy 253 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: and drove out here and you know, and was just 254 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: doing what he needed to do to survive. So it 255 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: had been a long road for us all individually. But 256 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, man, it was like wonder, 257 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: twin powers activate. 258 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, Well, you're such a solo artist. Did you 259 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: worry about joining a group? Because it's not all about 260 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: you at that point, right, or I have to listen 261 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: to other people's opinions about what its like I want 262 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: to do. Did that scare you at all? 263 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: It didn't scare me. But I got to say, I 264 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: mean I never I never envisioned myself in a group. No, 265 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean I was always little something right because I 266 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: was always super short. I didn't grow until I got 267 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: in a group. Right, So between the age of eighteen 268 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: and twenty, I went from five seven to six one and. 269 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: I was five five forever. They called me half pint. Oh. 270 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: I was little Michael when I would sing Michael jacknsones. 271 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: I was a little Luther when I did. You know, 272 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 2: I was always a little with somebody, right, but it was 273 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: always me and I never thought about really being in 274 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: a group. And it wasn't that I didn't want to be. 275 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: But you know, my heroes were Prince Stevie, Michael, you know, 276 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean Michael. Yeah, he was in a group, but 277 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: everybody else hadn't been in a group. So but I 278 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: was so hungry to make it. Like honestly, you could 279 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: have put me in a Marriachi band, you could have 280 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: put me in I don't know, Celtic choir. I would 281 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: have joined whatever I had to join to get into 282 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: business because that was my goal in my dream. 283 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was great. I mean, Boised the Men 284 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: and All for One were definitely the biggest influences I 285 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: think on N Sync in any of those boy bands 286 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: in the nineties because it was all about the harmonies, 287 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: and especially as a bass singer, I just love groups 288 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: like that. Because I didn't really get to hear my 289 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: type of voice much on the radio. But with Alfred, 290 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, be like we're you know, it's you know 291 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: those moments I'm like, oh my gosh, I do have 292 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: a place in this business, in this music. So, you know, 293 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: we just we grew up. I mean, we were all 294 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: acapella bands first. We didn't it couldn't afford music, so 295 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: we were always singing a cappella songs of you guys 296 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: and boys the men, and it really is what created 297 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: our group and our sound. 298 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Man. Listen, I think every group, every group 299 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: opens the door hopefully for the next behind them, and 300 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: every artist hopefully opens up the door for the next 301 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: to come in behind them, and for everybody to be 302 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: able to just take that mantleman and continue to run 303 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: and continue to light that fire even hotter. 304 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, what do you think of nineties music? So 305 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, you you released, I think ninety three was 306 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: your first thing, so you got to see like the 307 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: whole decade, which I think nineties was the most eclectic decade. 308 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: It was, Oh yeah, it was all over the music. 309 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The top forty really was the top forties 310 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: of every genre. 311 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: Every genre was on the top fourtyes. It was like, 312 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, being one of the biggest artists in the 313 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: nineties watching all that go down, did you think that 314 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: there was always going to be a place for you? 315 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: Guys? Listen, no one ever thinks when you're on top, 316 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: no one ever thinks that you won't just stay there, 317 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: you know. And part of that is just you know, 318 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: being naive and young and dumb, you know. But I 319 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: mean it was amazing because I still think that it 320 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: was one of the last decades of great music. I 321 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: think the two thousands right after was also really good. 322 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: And then after that for me call Me Old, call 323 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: me the old Man shaking my cane, it started to 324 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: go downhill. 325 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: We say it all the time. It just it all 326 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: blended together. And I can't tell you the difference after 327 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: two thousand, Yeah, what you're anyone did. 328 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: But also, here's the biggest part of it. You know, 329 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: from about twenty ten backwards, right, you still had a 330 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: lot of music that had a lot of emotion in it. 331 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: You know. Now, guys are just way too cool to 332 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: say I love you or I'm sorry or God must 333 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: have spent a little more time on you, right, Guys, 334 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: are too cool to do that now, right, And it's 335 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: not just the R and B guys or the pop guys. 336 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: It's all guys. Right. You just don't hear unless you're 337 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: listening to country music. You just don't hear as much 338 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: emotion in the music as you used to hear it. 339 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Where Like, I'm the type of guy. I'm old school, 340 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: and I'm also a songwriter and a music producer. So 341 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: when I listened to a song, I like to close 342 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: my eyes so I can just focus on that record 343 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: and I focus on to me, there are three principles 344 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: that make a hit song, right, music, melody, and lyric, 345 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: And when those three come together and have a super baby, 346 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: that's when you have something. And for me, when I 347 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: close my eyes and I can focus on the performance 348 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: of the singer, Are you selling the song? Do I 349 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: believe you? And then do I believe the song? You know? 350 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: And it's like when I do that with a lot 351 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: of stuff now, I mean, you can play twelve songs 352 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: for me and I'm like, Okay, is that the first 353 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: song I heard? Which one was that? Right? Whereas before 354 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: you knew, you knew it's so true? Yeah, it's nineties, 355 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: I mean top forty one minute you're listening to Nirvana. 356 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: The next Snoop is on, and then Snoop comes off, 357 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: and here comes as of bass and then asa bass 358 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: goes off, here comes off for one. But it was 359 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: just like the top forty really was the top forty 360 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: of just all genres of music. 361 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: So true. Well, as a songwriter, do you start with us? 362 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Do you start with melody? Do you start with lyrics? 363 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: I usually nine times out of ten, eight times out 364 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: of ten, start with melody because I feel like when 365 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: you hear a song on the radio right, you hear 366 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: it one time and you walk the right way and 367 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: you're like, man, I heard the song day and the 368 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: melody is da da da dude da da da da da. 369 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: Da. 370 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: No, It's like you may not have you may not 371 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: remember what it was saying, but you could walk away 372 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: singing that melody right. So I just feel like that. 373 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: I feel like the melody is like I never call 374 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: it a chorus. I call it a hook because it 375 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: hopefully should hook you in. And I feel like if 376 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: my melody hooks you in, then you'll listen again to 377 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: see what I'm saying if you don't get it right away. 378 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: So I usually. You know. Also, because I do track, 379 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: I do music, so I might start with the track first. 380 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: But once I have the track, I'll just open up 381 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: a microphone. I just keep a handheld next to me, 382 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: and I'll just sing melodies and then I will literally 383 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: comp just the melody. I'll put together a melody that 384 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: I love, and then I'll sit with the melody and 385 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: the music and I'll say, okay, song. I need the 386 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: song to tell me what it wants to be about, 387 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: you know. Is it sad? Is it happy? Is it melancholy? 388 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: You know? I need the music to speak to me 389 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: to let me know what this is going to be about. 390 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite song you've written. 391 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: Recently? If I had to choose one at the moment. 392 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: There's a song we wrote on our last album twenty plus. 393 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: It's called Chariots, and it's just about just about a 394 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: song about having somebody in your life that cares so 395 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: much about you that, no matter what it is you're 396 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 2: going through, that if they needed to pick you up, 397 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: put you in a chariot and carry you across whatever. 398 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: The finish line you're trying to get across is that 399 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: they do that for you, and you are doing that 400 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: for them, I'll carry us when I see you're breaking down. 401 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: So I just love the emotion of that record, because, 402 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: as you know, like when you're an artist, and especially 403 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: if you're a legacy artist and you're doing a concert, 404 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: most people don't want to hear your new stuff. They 405 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: just want to hear your old stuff. But when we 406 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: sing that song, because of the emotion of that record 407 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: and everything, I mean, it quiets the audience. They put 408 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: their phones down and they listen because everybody, I think 409 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: can relate to that. But also the emotion of the 410 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: record is something that also just kind of grabs you. 411 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: So I think, if I had to choose one, that's 412 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: probably one of my favorites that I've written for. 413 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: All for one, Nice, All for one? Where'd it come from? 414 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: How'd you get the name? 415 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: So honestly, it's not like some big epiphany, and we 416 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: couldn't come up with a name. We were trying, We 417 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: couldn't think of anything. Our old manager one day walked 418 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: into the studio and he had a clipboard and a 419 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: whole bunch of names on it, and he had off 420 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: one on there multiple times, A L L F O 421 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: R O N E al The number four, the number 422 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 2: one al L the number fourne And we all at 423 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: different times were looking at this list and we all 424 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: said this one repor and it's us A L L 425 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: the number four O N E. Because all of us 426 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: are for we. I think the reason we've been together 427 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: for thirty years is because we are all so much 428 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: aiken as far as like our values of what we love, 429 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: the way we love music, the way we love each other, 430 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: the way we love our families. All of us are 431 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: kind of for one on as far as if the 432 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: one is you know, us being in unity. 433 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: How do you I mean, thirty years is a long time, 434 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: A long time be a part of a family, you know. 435 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of ups and downs, a 436 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: lot of emotions coming out always. Was there ever a 437 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: time in the last thirty years where y'all were thinking, 438 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know if we want to 439 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: do this anymore? 440 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: Honestly, No, we you know, we had said from day one, 441 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: because like for me, when I joined a group, I 442 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: had solo aspirations and I said to the guys, listen, eventually, 443 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: I do want to do some music that I don't 444 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: think is what awful one would do? You know, I 445 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: want to do the music in my soul, in my heart. 446 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: But if we make off one of the base, if 447 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: we make off one the umbrella, we can have all 448 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: these other companies underneath that umbrella. And if we all 449 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: want to take some time to do some other things 450 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: or to try some other things, which I think is healthy, 451 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: it is, and then we all come back to off one. 452 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: And so we all had that under that understanding from 453 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: the jump. And so when I stepped off to do 454 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: my inspirational record and deal this, he took up photography 455 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: and then did a solo project. I'm working on a 456 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: solo project right now that I'm super excited about, you know, 457 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: and oh man, hopefully soon, hopefully really soon. I released 458 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: a single last year, I think it was, and which 459 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: did great for me. But you know, for me, it's 460 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: just about being able to exercise those feelings and exercise 461 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: that need to get this out of me. And some 462 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: of the stuff that I do on my own is 463 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: and stuff that necessarily when fans want to hear from 464 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: the group, you know, or that the group would do. 465 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: So do you get offended if someone calls your group 466 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: a boy band or do you all embrace it? 467 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, we embrace it. It's different now. 468 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: I we. 469 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: We were like the well because you know why when 470 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: we came out, no one was calling us and boised 471 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: them in and shy. 472 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: There was no such thing. There was no Germany and 473 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: created this word and then it just kind of floated 474 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: over to America exactly exactly. 475 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: So at first we were like, we're not a boy band, 476 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: we're and then I was I remember talking to the guys. 477 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you know what, listen, I rather 478 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: them talk about us. Yeah, they're not talking about us, 479 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: that's the problems. So they're at least talking and calling 480 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: us a boy band, kid band, guy band. I don't care. 481 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: As long as you're talking about us, that's fine. 482 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it. It was such a contentious word, 483 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I think for all of us because we all just 484 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: we just wanted to respect. You know, pop music is 485 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: probably the least respected, as popular as it is, it 486 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: really is just like the least respect in the industry, 487 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, and we saw that with just 488 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: the Grammy nominations. But yeah, but would never give us 489 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: a Grammy. 490 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: Right, you know. 491 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: It was just we were always looked at as kids, 492 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: all those kids. None, that's nothing that's not real music, 493 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: and you just wanted the respect. So anytime someone put 494 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: that little sting of boy band, because especially the European 495 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: term was these groups that were manufactured sank most of 496 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: the time. You know, it's just they just weren't really 497 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: they didn't have much talent on their just kind of faces. 498 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: And then you realize, like, wow, they're putting us in 499 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: this this category of all these groups that just don't 500 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: even sing right, And you grew up just your five 501 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: part harmony and you know, like really you care about 502 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: the music. Yeah, you'd wanted to go against that type. 503 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: But you know this many years later, it's like, okay, 504 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: it is kind of a happy family boy band. Just 505 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: it kind of encompasses so much more now. And you know, 506 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: it's just these guys that you know, created these families. 507 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: It's all about the harmony, it's all about the music. 508 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's just like what everyone is is called 509 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: these Well. 510 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: Also we're all much older, so I refer to us 511 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: as boys. It's like okay, all right, yeah, yeah we 512 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: do look young age, right, yeah, okay, we'd be a boy. 513 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: Band now, y'all just accept that, like, yes, we are young. 514 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: Boys, that's right, don't get a twisted that's right, all right. 515 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: So your debut album, so I Swear it was on 516 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: that one. I remember John Michael Montgomery. You know it 517 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: was a country song. How did you who was the 518 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: first to say, oh wow, that would be an amazing 519 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: R and B song? Uh? And did you'll all agree 520 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: that y'all should do that? 521 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: So this is a funny story. So we had been 522 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: in the recording studio, and I mean we worked with 523 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: David Foster. He actually produced a song I wrote call 524 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: Old Girl. Our record was finished and at mastering, and 525 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: so one day Doug Morris, who at the time was 526 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: the president of the Atlantic Records, he came out here 527 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: to LA to his LA office and Doug was called 528 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: us to his office, and so we go to his 529 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 2: office and we found out that Gerald LeVert had just 530 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: left his office because I guess he had offered this 531 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: song to Gerald first, and he said no. So we 532 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: go into his office. He says, I want to play 533 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: something for y'all. So he plays this country version of 534 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: I Swear and he says, so, what do y'all think? 535 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, it's a country song. I mean, 536 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: I guess it's all right, But I couldn't hear through 537 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: the twain and the rest of the guys were like, yeah, 538 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: it's a good song, really nice man, beautiful. He's like, Okay, 539 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: I want you guys to cut it and I'm going 540 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: to put it on your album. And I was like, 541 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: whoa wait a minute, slow your roll, brother, we are 542 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: an R and B band. That's a country song. And 543 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: he said, listen, David Foster, who you guys know you've 544 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: already worked with him, is now going to be the 545 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: vice president of Atlantic. And the first thing that I 546 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: want him to do is I want him to collaborate 547 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: with you all, and I want him to do for 548 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: you what he did for Whitney Houston and I will 549 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: always love you. And the rest of the guys were like, hey, 550 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: sounds like a plan. Let's do it. I was like, 551 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: our record is that mastering. It is done. We're supposed 552 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: to be done. We're supposed to be an R and 553 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: B band, Like, I'm not trying to sing some country records. 554 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: And he was like, listen, let me worry about the 555 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: whole mastering and all that he says, but trust me, 556 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: if you guys do this song, it'll change your career 557 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I mean, our song so Much 558 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: in Love was already going up the charts with a bullet. 559 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: So finally I was like, all right, fine, okay, fine, 560 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to be like you know, I don't 561 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: want to be like you know, the one fighting and 562 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: holding up everything. So I said, okay, fine. A couple 563 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: of days later, I remember David had a guid and 564 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: who worked from named Kofi, and I got a call 565 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: from from Kofe and he's like, listen, I'm gonna meet 566 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: you at the at the holiday in on sunset. Remember 567 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: you used to be the round Holidays. I don't know 568 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: what it is now, but I'm gonna meet you guys 569 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: there and I'll pick you up. And so I went 570 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: to David's house and he started with me, and then 571 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: the rest of the guys came through. We recorded the 572 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: song the first two hundred fifty thousand copies of our record. 573 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: It wasn't even on artwork. They just put a sticker 574 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: on all the cassettes and the CDs that said also 575 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: includes the hit I Swear and after thought Yeah, And 576 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: the craziest thing happened. Man. So I remember having a 577 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: conversation with him so much in Love was number five 578 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: with a Bullet and it was on its way to 579 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: number one, and he was like, listen, I believe that 580 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: you'll probably win a Grammy for I Swear. But if 581 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: we don't put it out this upcoming week, we're going 582 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: to miss the cutoff. You're gonna have to wait an 583 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: entire year. And I remember saying, but so much in 584 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: Love is on its way to number one right now. 585 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: He says, listen, it's a chance we got to take. 586 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: I believe if we do this, it'll give you guys 587 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: the momentum that you need. 588 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Because it's different now. Back then, you had to really 589 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: just release a single, yep, promote it for like six months, 590 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: then the next single. Now you can release five and 591 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: they all hit the top ten. 592 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: Right It's crazy, and I'll never forget. We were in 593 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: a station wagon in Seattle to go do a radio 594 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: show and we were all laughing then talking and I 595 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: heard something and I said, wait, everybody shut up, and 596 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: I turned the radio up and it was I Swear 597 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: playing on the radio. So I remember asking. We had. 598 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 2: We had this Atlantic rep up there, and we used 599 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: call him Kurt Russell because he looked exactly like Kurt 600 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: so I'm like, Kurt, why are they playing I Swear? 601 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: You know, He's like, hang on, I don't know. So 602 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: he makes some phone calls and then he tells us later. 603 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, they sent I Swear on cassette to 604 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: some radio stations that were, you know, big influencers around 605 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: the country, and evidently they're playing it off the cassettes. 606 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: And so next thing you know, man, we went with 607 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: Ice Swear. We snatched so Much in Love off the charts. 608 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Everybody starts playing that one. We entered the charts to 609 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 2: seventy two John Michael's at seventy and within five weeks 610 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: the record's number one and then stays there for eleven weeks. 611 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 612 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa, I mean, what was life like you were 613 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: on the top of the charts for three months. I mean, 614 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that would feel like at all. 615 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we've only had one number one in our 616 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: serious Yeah, it's gonna be maybe it was like the 617 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: only number one that we had, and you know, it 618 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: stayed up there for maybe three weeks. 619 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: But three months, dude. Listen. So our very first shows 620 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: ever were grad nights at Disney, Yes, oh yeah, and 621 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: I remember we were on tomorrow Land stage, and it 622 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: was like we were there for like eight weekends, and 623 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: it was like we would come up and say, all right, y'all, 624 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna do our song. It's been number one for 625 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: a week, and then the next week it's been number 626 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: and I mean, this just kept going on and on, 627 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: and even we were like it just didn't feel real, honestly, 628 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: you know, and when you're that young, and we didn't 629 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: have cell phones with cameras and videos and you know, 630 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: so it was like it was hard to just live 631 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: in the moment because I mean from that point on, 632 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: I think for the next four to five years, we 633 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: were always gone maybe a minimum of three hundred days 634 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: out of every year, and it was just like everything 635 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: was flying by. I'm sure you guys know this. Everything 636 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: was flying by so fast, and it was like, you know, 637 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been to so many places all over 638 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: the world that I can't really tell you much about them. 639 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: Like we went to Budapest. All that I saw from 640 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: Budapest was from the plane from the car. I remember 641 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: we went to this award show that gave us their 642 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: version of the Grammy, and literally after that award show, 643 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 2: we went back to the hotel, we grabbed our luggage 644 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: and we went to euro Yeah, I mean to London. 645 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: You know. It was like We've been so many places, 646 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: We've done so many things. 647 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: I can tell you every backstage, every kitchen in the hotel. Yeah, 648 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: but no, we never got to really see the cities 649 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: at all. We've been to Paris a few times. Didn't 650 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: even see dayifea tower out the window because I was 651 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: probably sleeping. 652 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 653 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: I just never really got to see anything anything. 654 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: You know. It's like you saw it all from cars 655 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: and airplanes and trains and buses, and it was like 656 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: now that I'm older and I appreciate all that stuff 657 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: so much more. You know. It's like, man, you know, 658 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: I always think to myself sometimes like if I were 659 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: ever to write a book, like would I actually be 660 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: able to remember everything? Yeah? 661 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: I tried it and I couldn't remember a lot. 662 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 663 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy what you get yourself to and you just 664 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: change history changes in your mind. You're like, wait, that 665 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: didn't happen that way. 666 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 2: I get it. 667 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: I swear really inspired me with so Lone Star came 668 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: out with Amaze. I'm amazed. When that song came out, 669 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: I went to the guys. I'm like, guys, this is 670 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: or I swear like this is the best song. This 671 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: would be the best pop song ever, taking this country 672 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: song and then amazed remixed it into a pop version, 673 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: like no, that song so badly. At what point, especially 674 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: you know you have two huge songs now, was there 675 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: a moment where you felt like, Okay, we've made it, 676 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: because like for me, it was doing a show like 677 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: the Tonight Show something you grew up on your like, okay, 678 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: we've made it in front of Jay Leno right now, 679 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: this is it, especially when you start like us over 680 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: in Europe and you don't know any of the shows, 681 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know what this show is, right, But 682 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: was there like a moment that you're like, wow, we 683 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: have officially made it. 684 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean you know, I think it's probably 685 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: like what you said. But our very first TV appearance 686 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: was our Senior Hall and I'll never forget right because 687 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: the guys they still make fun of me to this day. 688 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: I always had such a baby face, so I remember 689 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: asking the makeup lady to draw a mustache from me. 690 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: She gave me like this little Richard princess and they 691 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: were like, why are you like Jaques who stole. And 692 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: then I remember Delius, Oh, I want to I wanted 693 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: to punch him so bad, right because as we're about 694 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: to go on and I'm nervous, I'm super nervous. Were 695 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: about to sing so much love, and he's like, listen, 696 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: don't be nervous. It's not gonna be about three four 697 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: million people watching. It's like you mother, And so I 698 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: sounded like cher like I sound like I was. I 699 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: was so freaking scared, and I was like, I felt 700 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: like we had made it because we were on our 701 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: senior hall. But I was so scared that I didn't 702 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: feel that way. Yeah, I don't know how to explain it. 703 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: But when we sang at the Grammys, and that was 704 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: also nerve wracking, but we sang I Swear with John 705 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: Michael Montgomery, and I just remember being at the rehearsal. 706 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: And you know how at the Grammys they always have 707 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: like picture cards of who's sitting where right, and I'm like, 708 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: oh shoot, I mean, Whitney's there, and Clyde is next 709 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: to her. I mean Clide is next to her, but 710 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: Luther's right next to him, and Prince is over there, 711 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my God, I don't know 712 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: how I'm going to get through this. But then I 713 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: felt like, well, wait a minute, some of them aren't 714 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: performing and we are. 715 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting in front of Prince. 716 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm the biggest Prince fan you'll ever meet. 717 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: Like I stopped him at that American view where it's like, yeah, 718 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: when we were doing We Are the World at the 719 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: end and he was sucking on his lollipop. If you 720 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: look at the video like I'm staring at him, I'm 721 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: going to look at it, dude, I am going to 722 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: eat you up, like I love frick. 723 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: With your management? Have you had the same management the 724 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: whole time? 725 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: You're going? 726 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So y'all have gone up and down record labels 727 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: and all that. I'm sure you've kind of. Yeah, every 728 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: group's going through their ups and downs with management. I 729 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: know we did ours. Did y'all ever sign like horrible 730 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: contracts like the rest of us dead? 731 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: Okay? 732 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Oh, trust me, we're all on the same beat. Okay, 733 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: And it's still happening. 734 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: Today, and you know, because you know what's sad and 735 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: this every time, so my partners get so annoyed with 736 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: me and my production partners because I just feel a 737 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: need that whenever a young artist comes in our studio 738 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: that I have to talk to this and I have 739 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: to explain to them that, listen, yes, you do have 740 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: to crawl before you walk. Sometimes you have to knowingly 741 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 2: sign this BS just to get through the door. But 742 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: you have to remember, right, which we didn't know. We 743 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: didn't know this about the fourth album. Now, if you 744 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: sign an NBA NFL contract, once you sign your sign right. 745 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: But in the music business, I don't care if you 746 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: signed yesterday, your record comes out and goes number one 747 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: for eleven weeks. You're like, listen, I'm not singing another 748 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: word until we fix this contract. And you can do that, 749 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: but in other businesses where contracts are involved, you can't 750 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: really do that. We didn't know that until about the 751 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: fourth record, and it's like, oh my god. You know 752 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: we had those huge records and I can love you 753 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: like that on the second record and the Hunchback of 754 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: Notre Dame for Disney, and we didn't know any of 755 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: that until you know, halfway through. 756 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: But purposely, they don't want you to just think you 757 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: have that power, especially when you're young. 758 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: Listen, we'd be in Japan about the going stage, You're like, oh, 759 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: we forgot to ask you to sign this real quickly, 760 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: not knowing that we just signed an extension for no 761 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: extra money, no extra points, no nothing, you know. And 762 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: then we find out the check comes. I'm like, what's this? Like, yeah, 763 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: remember you signed that in Japan? Like wait what that's 764 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 2: what that was. 765 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: A group? What's the biggest challenge that y'all faced? 766 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: Probably the biggest challenge was learning that someone that we 767 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: had really trusted had taken advantage of us, you know, 768 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: and how that you know? I know, for me, it 769 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: was watching like MTV Cribs and I'm watching folks who 770 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: literally didn't sell a third of the records we sold, 771 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: but they live in a completely different life than us. 772 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, wait a minute. We're on the 773 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: road three hundred days out of the year. We would 774 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 2: make more in our merch every night than we would 775 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 2: for the actual show. And I'm like, I'm not living 776 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: that life now. I know there's four of us, and 777 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: i know we had to split it four ways, but 778 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: if we've sold four times as much records as that person, 779 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 2: you know, we should at least be living like that. 780 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: And I'm not complaining about the life we were living. 781 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't It was better than what we started with. 782 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: But it's not fair. 783 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: But it's not fair. It wasn't all it was supposed 784 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: to be, you know. And and what happens all the 785 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: time with creatives is creative people are very trusting because 786 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: we just want to stay creative. We want to keep 787 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 2: our mind on our show, on our music, and on 788 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: other things. So when we have somebody comes and says, hey, man, 789 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 2: you'll see, we'll become family. I'll be a family member 790 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: to you. You can trust me. And then you find 791 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: out there's some new math going on, like wait, okay, 792 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: one for you, one for me, one two for you 793 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 2: you know one yeah, well wait a minute, you know. 794 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: And then by the time you find out about it, 795 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: as far as we were concerned, there's this thing called 796 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: the Statute of Limitations. You have three years from the 797 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: time you knew or should have known, Like what do 798 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 2: you mean you should have known? Like how can somebody 799 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: tell you should have known something? So I think the 800 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 2: biggest disappointment that we had to go through it was like, 801 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: at one point we just did the Millennium Concert with 802 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: Whitney Houston in Hong Kong and it was the craziest 803 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 2: thing ever. And then we got back in our label 804 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 2: Slash managers like we don't need it landing no more. 805 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, what what you mean? We don't need Atlantic? 806 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: Our song? We had a song that Diane One wrote 807 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: for us called I Will Be Right Here that David 808 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 2: Fossil produced. It's zooming up the charts. It's number one 809 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: most added three weeks in a row at radio. Like, 810 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: it's zooming up the charts. And now you're going to 811 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: come and say we don't need Atlantic Records anymore. And 812 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: the thing is, we always knew there was a riff 813 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: between the independent label we were signed with and Atlantic. 814 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: They hate each other. And now all of a sudden, 815 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of our single, yeah it's over. And 816 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: it was like starting from scratch and we having to 817 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: take the bull by the horns and take our career. 818 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: And for me meaning, okay, fine, if I got to 819 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: learn how to be a better producer, if I got 820 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: to learn how to mix records, if I have to 821 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: learn everything, I'll learn it, you know. And that was 822 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: pretty challenging. It really was, you know, because you've experienced 823 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 2: such highs only for literally somebody to rip the carpet 824 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: from underneath. 825 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: The wheer kept so busy that you can't really pay 826 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: attention to that. I mean, we had such parallels with 827 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: this because we had to start up. I mean, we 828 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: didn't even have our name for a while because the 829 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: Perlman took that. And uh, people are very surprised. And 830 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean just recently. I mean I did a whole 831 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: documentary on it, but uh, someone's asked me like, oh, 832 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you're rich and famous within sync and 833 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: in the nineties, I'm like, people be surprised we weren't rich, right, 834 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: I got all you would think so huge albums, tours, 835 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: all that, but like we weren't making the money that 836 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: you thought we were making. Like I you know, once 837 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: instanc stopped, Like I couldn't afford that house anymore. I 838 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: had to keep work. I couldn't retire, you know, you 839 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: always dream of like I'm going to retire my mom 840 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: and dad want to get them a house. You know, 841 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: I can live the rest of my life even if 842 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't have another song, right, No, not even close 843 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: to that. And they were just so confused, like, wow, 844 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. 845 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: Because when people see you on TV. They automatically assume 846 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: you're rich like I saw you on TV. 847 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: People like and I've made a lot more money after 848 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: insane Yeah, but uh oh, the amount of people that 849 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: are like social medi it's like, well you behind your 850 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: gated you know house. I don't live behind a gate, 851 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: don't live in a very just you know. 852 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 2: House. 853 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone just thinks, oh yeah, just yeah, I 854 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: mean a touch. 855 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: I'll say this man. It took me getting into my 856 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 2: late thirties early early forties to just develop a new 857 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: attitude called I don't give a f I'm not going 858 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: to curse on your show. But I just got to 859 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: the point where it was like, listen, what talks about 860 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 2: the music business is the music business is all about 861 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: perception and not reality, right, what people perceive you to 862 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: be and think you are. And for me personally, I'm 863 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: just at that point where I don't give a damn 864 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: what you think. I don't care anymore. 865 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: That's such a good feeling. 866 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 2: It is because I just don't care if you want 867 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 2: me to drive a Rolls race and buy me one, 868 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: right because right now, I got three kids in college, 869 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: I got one in medical school, I got one in 870 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: law school. I want at USC in business school. Right, listen, 871 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm very proud, but listen, you know it just means 872 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: that right now, I can't drive. Now. Do I have 873 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 2: a nice car? Of course, I love cars, right, But 874 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I'm just at that 875 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: point now. If if you are disappointed by my life 876 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 2: how I'm living it, then why don't you go ahead 877 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 2: and buy me everything you think I should have. If 878 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 2: you're not going to do that, then keep your opinion 879 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 2: to yourself because careless show. 880 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: It's like your opinions. I don't need to know, don't 881 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: need to know you're keeping me. 882 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it took me a while because, as you know, man, 883 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: when you're in that limelight and you're trying to live 884 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: up to the percept. Yeah, and I'm a Jones and 885 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep up with all of them, right, 886 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: And I just got to that point where you know what, Nah, 887 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna live my life the best for me and 888 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 2: my family. And if somebody got a problem with that, hey, 889 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: that's your problem and ain't mine. 890 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: I wish we would have learned that earlier. 891 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: Man, what's that saying? If I knew then, yeah, what. 892 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: Are your thoughts on the evolution of R and B 893 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: music in the industry because it has come so I 894 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: mean nineties to now, huge evolution. What's your thoughts? 895 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 2: Some of it is good, you know. I I love 896 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 2: the throwback type artists, you know, the Bruno Mars, the Eels, 897 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 2: the Ed Surance, because I feel like there's emotion in 898 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: their music totally. I feel like it's they could have 899 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: been just as big during our time because the way 900 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 2: they deliver a song, but the way they're writing the 901 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: songs or choosing the songs, it has that that that 902 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: emotion to it. But a lot of this stuff, see, 903 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: I have such a huge problem with Like, I love Beyonce, right, 904 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: I think she's one of the dopest singers on the 905 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 2: planet for sure, right, but I have a problem when 906 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: I hear Beyonce trying to sound like everyone else. 907 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 3: Exactly because I'm like, it bothers me, like you're beyond 908 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 3: you have your own thing like you. 909 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 2: For anyone else could sound like you, they would, they 910 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 2: would give their left anything. Listen, the very last thing 911 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 2: that just had my blood going in a good way 912 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 2: with love on top. I mean, come on, who else 913 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: can put six key changes in a song and sing 914 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 2: every key change with power and with conviction. Right. There's 915 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 2: not too many people on the planet that could touch 916 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 2: that woman. Right. So my thing is, as we all 917 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: get older as artists, right, and you've tasted that success 918 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 2: of being number one on the pop charts, right, you 919 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 2: want it at all times, right, But the music business 920 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 2: really is a young man's game. Right. But here's the 921 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 2: other side of that coin. When you're blessed and lucky 922 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: enough to have a fan base who has grown with you, right, 923 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: and who likes what you do and supports you with 924 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: what you do, then to me, make music for them first. 925 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: And then if you're lucky and blessed again, maybe that 926 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 2: music might crawl out to the masses, right. But to me, 927 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: you worry about the people who love you the most first. 928 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: People forget about about that, and I we were guilty 929 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: of that too when we first came out. You know, 930 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: of course we had ninety women and everything, but we 931 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: were so desperate to have the guys like us too, Like, no, like, 932 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: what are these guys like us? So we would always 933 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: try to appeal to them when that didn't matter at all. 934 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 2: Didn't matter. We had to learn the hard way too. 935 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 2: I'll never get we did. We did the most urban 936 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: show in all places, Milwaukee, of all places, and I 937 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: just remember we go on there and our DAT starts skipping. 938 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember the days that that takes, 939 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: of course, and there was a thing, right if you 940 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: had a DAT that was made on a Panasonic machine, 941 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: if you played it on the Sony machine, it might 942 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 2: start skipping, right. So I remember saying, I see the questions, 943 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: and you know, I swear women, I'm in the verse. 944 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: And then next thing, you know, dudes, every dude in 945 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 2: this place starts booing. And the girls are like trying 946 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: to cheer, but the dudes we're booing. And I just 947 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: got so fed up. I dropped the mic and walked 948 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 2: off stage. I didn't stop until we got to the car. 949 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 2: And when we got back in that car, I remember 950 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: saying to the Atlantic rep, because I was the main 951 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: one saying, we need to do more urban shows. We're 952 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: an R and B band, We're not just pop. Right 953 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: after that show, I learned, I said, I remember saying 954 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 2: to her. Her name was Christy Murray. I said, Chrissy, 955 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: I only want to sing for people who want to 956 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 2: hear me sing. I don't want to go anywhere. Well, 957 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: I got to try to convince folks, right, if they 958 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: want me, I want them, and I don't care if 959 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 2: they black, white, yellow, green, purple, short tall. I don't 960 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 2: give a for itself. And I learned that lesson then, 961 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 2: but I wish I would learned that lesson even sooner. 962 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: But now you know, in my forties, you know that 963 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 2: lesson is still true and pure. That listen, I want 964 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 2: to be anywhere I'm wanted, you know what I'm saying. 965 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: And if we're lucky enough to put out we're working 966 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: on new music right now. And if we're lucky enough 967 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: that that new music catches fire and hits the young folks, 968 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, hey, great, right, But that's not my goal. 969 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: My goal is to get our music in the hands 970 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 2: of people who know off one who loves our music, 971 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: who our music has become part of the fabric of 972 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 2: their lives. I want to get it in your hands, 973 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 2: and then from that point on see what happens. But 974 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: I think so many older artists and it doesn't matter 975 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 2: how old, but you know, once you make it a 976 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 2: couple of years later, you're considered older, right, So at 977 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 2: that point, to me, I think one of the biggest 978 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 2: lessons artists need to remember is if you are blessed 979 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: and lucky enough to have a fan base, make them 980 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: happy first. That's why Prince was always so listen. Prince 981 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: would put out a record that nobody even knew was 982 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: out and it was selling a million copies immediately. And 983 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: when he did twenty one nights at the at the Forum, 984 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 2: I mean I went to two or three of those shows, 985 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: and every one of them were sold out within a weekend. 986 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 2: Because he has had such an amazing fan base and 987 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: he took such care of that fan base. 988 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: So true. Yeah, when are we gonna hear the new 989 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 1: All for One music? 990 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: Sometime this year? Probably closer to the actual like anniversary dates, 991 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 2: so probably towards the end of summer. We've been working 992 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: on some music and we got some stuff we're super 993 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: excited about, you know, just stuff to feel good records. 994 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's great. I have some fan questions for 995 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: you here, Okay, what was your favorite part of the 996 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: boy band Christmas tour from Kinstagram seven to nine. 997 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: Ah, you know that was a trip because it was 998 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: the first time for me I'd ever done anything like that, 999 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: and I think that the favorite part for me is 1000 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 2: just as I'm getting older, is the camaraderie, you know, 1001 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: because as you said, right, we've all gone through a 1002 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: lot of similar things. So when you actually are on 1003 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: a tour bus and you just chopping it up and 1004 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: we're all talking and we're all talking about the pitfalls, 1005 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 2: the highs and everything that we've all gone through, and 1006 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: then you realize, like, yo, we're really not that different, right, it's. 1007 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: Afraid of the show. Yeah, it's all just kind of 1008 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: yeah to know each other and like just wap stories exactly. 1009 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 2: But when you get a chance to like hang and 1010 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 2: you're like, yo, I didn't know you were this fun. 1011 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: I think it was more of that, which was just 1012 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: like I mean, we were having fun singing. I love 1013 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 2: singing Christmas music of course, and any music. But you know, 1014 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: I just think it was like I think sometimes with 1015 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: us in our group and all for one, it's like 1016 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 2: I think all four of us have ever wondered like, yeah, 1017 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: could we have that kind of like kinship with other 1018 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 2: folks the way we have it, and you know, and 1019 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 2: everybody was so cool, man. I Just like I said, sometimes, 1020 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: as you know, in this business, you hear things and 1021 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 2: maybe you have some opinion of somebody that really isn't 1022 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 2: based in reality because you've never been around them. They've 1023 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: never been that way towards you, and then you get 1024 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: around You're like, you're cool as the other side of 1025 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 2: the pillow, you know what I'm saying. So I think 1026 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 2: that was probably the most fun about it. 1027 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: Man, let's see. Priscilla Rose Egg asks, have you seen 1028 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: the scene and just friends with Royn Reynolds a singing 1029 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: I swear. 1030 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: Oh of course, So of course, listen, we wanted to 1031 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 2: put that as part of our opener, and we tried it. 1032 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 2: I think we tried it. We did a show in 1033 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: Hawaii and we did it and the crowd absolutely loved it. 1034 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 2: And so yeah, we have we actually been like I 1035 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 2: would say to the guys, like we really need to 1036 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 2: get in touch with him and just like do it 1037 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: for real, for real, Like he can sing the leads 1038 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 2: and we'll back him. 1039 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: I love it. He's so great. He's a big boy 1040 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: band fan. 1041 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 2: Oh, I know loves it. I know. 1042 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: All right, give us a frosted tip here. Okay, we 1043 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 1: do like to give at least one tip of show. Okay, 1044 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: what are some tips on the perfect date night? Oh, 1045 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: what's your go to for date date nights. 1046 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,959 Speaker 2: Well, I've been married for twenty five years, so. 1047 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: You got to keep it fresh. 1048 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: Hey, we got to keep it fresh. You know, I'm 1049 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 2: at a different place in my life now, so now 1050 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 2: it's about making sure that my wife, my baby feels 1051 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 2: special throughout the day. And then you know, we're gonna 1052 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 2: go have a nice dinner somewhere. Maybe we might go 1053 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 2: to like a lounge or somewhere that's not too loud 1054 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 2: where we could talk but yet just enjoy each other. 1055 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 2: You know, life is so short, man, and when you 1056 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 2: finally do have someone who loves you, or as I 1057 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: like to say, who loves your dirty drolls, that's a 1058 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 2: lot of love, right, So you know you want to 1059 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 2: do some things that just hopefully makes them feel good 1060 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 2: and special. We actually met on the road, so I 1061 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 2: know it sounds weird, but you know the rule of 1062 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 2: the road, right in any city you go to, you call 1063 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 2: the people you know, Hey, i'm here, you want to 1064 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 2: come to the show. So our musical director at the time, 1065 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 2: who's like my big brother, Reggie, was friends with my 1066 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 2: wife and her family, and so he had called and said, hey, 1067 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 2: you know, we're here, and I'm playing with this band 1068 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: call off Once. She didn't know who we were, but 1069 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: she came anyways to see Reggie, and I remember we 1070 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: were hopping off a plane. We were coming from Germany. 1071 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 2: We were on a European promotional trip. But we had 1072 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: one show we couldn't get out of in Virginia. So 1073 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 2: we had to come back from Europe to do this 1074 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 2: one show and then go back to Europe for another month. 1075 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 2: And so I went to his I went to Reggie's 1076 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 2: room to say hello, and when I got there, I 1077 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 2: see this woman there and I'm like, you know, He's like, 1078 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 2: it's my little sister. I want to meet your little sister. 1079 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 2: But I'm jet lagged and tired, and so right as 1080 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm walking out, our road manager comes in. He's like, Reggie, 1081 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: there's a huge storm. We're playing this outdoor amphitheater. You 1082 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 2: got to come cover up the equipment you got, you know. 1083 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 2: So Reggie starts panicking and just leaves. So I'm like, well, 1084 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: I guess we hanging out, you know. So we had 1085 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 2: lunch that day. I took her to sound check. I 1086 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 2: remember our manager, our tour manager. He came with four 1087 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 2: raincoats and she was standing right there next to me, 1088 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 2: so you know I did. I did the gentleman thing. 1089 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 2: I said, here, you take my raincoat, you know. And 1090 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 2: then I remember that night our show got rained out 1091 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 2: and they wanted us to maybe come back and make 1092 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 2: it up. And I had the brilliant idea of, well, 1093 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 2: don't y'all got some tents y'all can put up and 1094 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 2: the sounds, we'll do an a cappella wreck set, you know, 1095 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 2: We'll do a strip down set. And we actually did that, 1096 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 2: and she was on the side of the stage and 1097 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 2: I sang her the whole night, and we stay up 1098 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 2: that night till five in the morning, just talking. And 1099 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 2: this is before cell phones, right, So I remember saying 1100 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,479 Speaker 2: to her the next day when we were leaving, I said, listen, 1101 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 2: I know this is gonna be super weird, but you 1102 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 2: have a picture that I can have, you know, And 1103 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 2: she gave me her Virginia tech ID because she was 1104 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: fresh out of college. And then I said, so this 1105 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 2: is how I knew I was in though. I said, listen, 1106 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 2: I'd really like to come see you again when I 1107 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 2: get back in the States. Can I have your phone number? 1108 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 2: She gave me a scroll. I mean it was her 1109 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: grandma's number, her beeper number, her car phone, her work, 1110 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: her number. I was like, oh I am in, come in, 1111 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 2: Oh dude, And I was so happy. And I remember 1112 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: we were going to the airport and Reggie was like, 1113 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 2: why are you so sad? I was like, because I 1114 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 2: gotta leave Hannah, and and He's like, you really like her. 1115 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 2: I said, put it like this, You'll be the best 1116 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,439 Speaker 2: man at our wedding. He was like, seriously, I said, yeah. 1117 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 2: Three years later he was the best man in our wedding. 1118 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: Love and we've been together now for we've been together 1119 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 2: now for twenty eight years, married for twenty five and 1120 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 2: then Hannah manages all for one. 1121 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh wow, wow yeah, and have incredibly smart kids. 1122 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, they definitely take after her. You know 1123 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,919 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I got the streets smarts, she's got 1124 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 2: the book smart. 1125 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: That's what works. That's what relationship exactly. That's like, well, 1126 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: it's hard for us because I have the street smarts 1127 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: and the books. So I don't know how this. 1128 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 2: Is so long. 1129 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 3: Also a pathological liars, so you know, it's hard to tell. 1130 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: I was always the one parent who never helped the 1131 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 2: kids with their homework. Because it would all be wrong. 1132 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like, oh yeah, I would not 1133 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 3: even try to list it. 1134 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: My whole thing is like, okay, if we need a tutor, 1135 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 2: we need a tutor. Two days of the week, the 1136 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: first days for you, the second days for me. 1137 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: Jamie Jones, thank you so much for coming. Thank you 1138 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: you are so awesome. Love getting to know you. And 1139 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for the new music. Come on copy 1140 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary. 1141 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 2: It's you and the guys. 1142 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna have your other fellow bandmates come in also 1143 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: coming up next. Yes, we're gonna split this into an 1144 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: awful one week nice and I'm excited. Now I'm going 1145 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: to be listening to all your songs always. 1146 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 2: Well, hey, I appreciate you guys. I appreciate you know, 1147 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: this opportunity to just sit down and chop it up 1148 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 2: with y'all. I love what y'all are doing and thank 1149 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 2: you so much. 1150 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: How can the listeners stay in touch with you? 1151 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm on social media of course, all 1152 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 2: for One at All Dashed number four dash O n 1153 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 2: E dot com. That's our website and all of our 1154 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 2: social media is there. But our social media stuff is 1155 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,280 Speaker 2: super easy it's just all for one music. And I'm 1156 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 2: everywhere at hey, Jamie Jones, h A Y j A, 1157 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: M I E jail and yes. So if I saw you, 1158 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 2: like hey Jamie Jones, I'm like, hey, you just put 1159 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 2: a you put an at sign in front of it, 1160 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: and that's I'm right there with Jones like that. 1161 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: All right, Jamie, thank you so much again. Well I 1162 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: love that Jamie Jones. 1163 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 2: I know what a nice guy. 1164 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: I know, we really kind of like connected over at 1165 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: Ryan Cabrera's anniversary thing, like, yeah, man, it's good. It's 1166 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 1: a good dude right here. 1167 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 3: I know when he was singing I see, I thought 1168 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 3: it was just one of the part of the band 1169 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 3: that was performing that night, you know, I was like, no, no, no, 1170 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 3: So he was singing I swear, and I'm like, oh wow, 1171 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 3: this guy sounds just like like the song he was 1172 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 3: and then I didn't I literally did not know that 1173 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 3: until we interviewed him today. 1174 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's I mean, they're lovely guys, so nice. 1175 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: We didn't get to run into them too much back 1176 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: in the day. I remember they did come to one 1177 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: of our shows and we were just such fans, like, 1178 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, because that was one of our biggest 1179 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 1: influences at the time. But they're yeah, good, great, great 1180 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: grass and I cannot wait to have Delias and Toni 1181 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: coming up. 1182 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: All for Warren back to back and yes. 1183 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: All right, guys, be good to each other out there, 1184 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: don't drink a drop, take care of those animals and 1185 00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: remember did hey? Thanks for listening. 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