1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: The volume. Man, Welcome to nightfold of the night Cap, 2 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: takeover best James dee Bo Harrison, I'm t J Hush Mazata. 3 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Make sure y'all like y'all hit the subscribe button and 4 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: don't forget your text a friend, you call a friend, 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: you tell them to do the same thing. And at 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the top corner of the chat, we do have the 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: link for James's merchandise. 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Make sure y'all go get y'all some de bo gear. 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: As you see he's sporting his own d bow always 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Chad ain't here. He trying to intimidate Chad through the screen. 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Let's see if Chad chat texts me up during the 12 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: show to letting me know that he's not intimidated. So 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: we gonna seek. We're gonna kick the show off, get 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: right into it with football. And I actually like this 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: topic because it's not many of us in this role. 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: And you'll see where I'm going. So Tom Brady says 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: he's a sounding board. He will be a sounding board 18 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: for anything the Raiders wonder need. I mean, you're a 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: part owner, you should be. But my question to you is, 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: would you have any interest of being part of the 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: front office. Zip zero donata. I don't want none of that. 22 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Would you have to have known the team? No no interest? 23 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: So playing is enough of a headache. Now you gotta 24 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: control everything else combined with that and every Tom Dick 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: and Harry who thinks he knows better than you and 26 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: can do this defense offense because he played you know, 27 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: this video game and he does well on it. It's nah, 28 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm I had no desire. You you got a desire 29 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: to do that? I mean other than the money, it's 30 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: nothing else I would do it. I wouldn't say I 31 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: have a desire to do it. I just feel like 32 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: if I was in the front office now, it just 33 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: it depends on your role in that front office. Look, 34 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: the role in the front office like like a scout. No, 35 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: you have no say. So you go scout a guy. 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: You may like a guy that gim may not like him, 37 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: they don't draft him. But if I'm a decision maker, 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: if my words mean something has like and mean I 39 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: can pull some weight around. I thought yeah, because I 40 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: feel like I understand talent. I know talent. 41 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: At every position. 42 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: So what happens when you get that talent in there 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and don't paying out the way that you thought it 44 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: was go paying out. That's okay, everybody. Now, I'm not 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: going to batter. I'm not going to bat a thousand. 46 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Nobody I ain't said you go bat a thousand. I 47 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people, don't nobody better thousand. 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: I'm a bad at least seven hundred. Stop it, I'm telling. 49 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: And when you sit. 50 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Down and meet with these dudes and number one, you 51 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: can tell who genuinely loves the game or they just 52 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: playing the game for what the game brings them, whether 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: there's money, attention women like you, you don't know. But 54 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: talent wise, oh, I'm meiling that. I'm meiling that. Okay, talent, talent. 55 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: What you're doing in the off field can overshadow your 56 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: your talent, and you're a person that has tremendous talent. 57 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: But when you off the field, you you out in 58 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: the club, you out in the strip, club, you out 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: in the streets, and your night life is just as 60 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: fantastic as your playing field. Your career is going to 61 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: be shortened. You can only do You can only burn 62 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: a candle from both ends so long. I agree with 63 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: that to a certain extent. I don't care if you're 64 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: out in the club. It's what you're doing in the club. 65 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't care. If you're in the strip club, are 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: you going all the time? Are you getting drunk? It's 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: people that go out, they don't drink. They just hanging 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: out with their teammates. So what are you doing when 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: you go out? For me, the percentage of those people 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: that go out, how many of them don't drink? 71 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: I didn't like I was. I didn't say. I'nna say. 72 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say probably that don't fifteen to twenty. It 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: ain't even that high, bro, It's more like five to ten. 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: It may be fifteen to twenty. 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Stop it. 76 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: You get ten, you get you get ten of your 77 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: homeboys together right now. 78 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: No that they'll drink. 79 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is each time they go out, each 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: time they going out, And then how often are you 81 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: going out? It depends like if you're playing in Pittsburgh, 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: how often you going out? You're playing in Cincinnati, how 83 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: often you going out? Now you're playing in Miami, you're 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: playing in New York, you playing in LA you're playing 85 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. 86 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: That's different, but you not gonna bat a thousand. 87 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: I just feel like if I'm giving that opportunity, I'm 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: drafting some talented players, now, am I gonna miss him? 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: Are in there? Absolutely? But how many of us are 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: in that position? That's the problem. Listen. 91 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't want the responsibility of being in that position. 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm good me personally, I'm jumping two feet in. But 93 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: they they're not giving us those positions. When I say 94 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: us people of color, we don't. We don't get those 95 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: type of opportunities to advance up the rates. They want 96 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: you to start in the basement. They want you to 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: start in the basement, like you don't want to start 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: in the basement. Though, I don't need to start in 99 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: the basement. I'm my accolade. I'm I should start above 100 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: at Hey, man, some people can play the game, but 101 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: tackler and can't just talent to say their life, I 102 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: ain't some people that that's the difference. I'm not so you, 103 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: I said. Some people I know were speaking between you 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: and I. Now, you wouldn't even want to own a 105 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: team like our owner. No, none of that. 106 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: I don't know none of that, man. 107 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: I see, I love playing the game, man, I love 108 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: playing the game. When I played the game, after I 109 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: was done playing the game, you know that was that 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: was sort of it. 111 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I watch you know here 112 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: and there. 113 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: If it's something I need to you know, talk about 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: or whatever, I'll pay more attention to it. 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: But other than that, I love to play the game. 116 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Everything else that comes with it, I'm good, especially if 117 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm not playing it. 118 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: For sure, coaching is nothing, no desire on you at all. 119 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: It's too much time. That is very like. 120 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: That's my biggest reason because I've been off for jobs 121 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: in the league. That's my biggest reason that I want 122 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: coaches because one, I want to be around my children. 123 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: I want to see my kids grow up. 124 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Like you have all the money in the world, does 125 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: it matter when you don't have a relationship with your 126 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: loved ones, because ultimately the mama's going to be the 127 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: doing all the raising. Your wife or their mother is 128 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: gonna raise them because you're not around. We know from 129 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: our coaches, like Bruh. Let's say Sunday, you see them 130 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Sunday night. If you play a home game Monday night, 131 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: they have the facility all day game planning Tuesday night, 132 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: then the facility all day game planning Wednesday night, then 133 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: the facility all day game planning. You'll see them a 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: little bit Thursday. You'll see them a good portion Friday. 135 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Now if you playing away game, they flying out Saturday. Yeah, 136 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: now you really don't see them. And then you know, 137 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: you get them coaches that they don't like day White. 138 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: So now they. 139 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Standing in the Yeah you smiling and laughing because you 140 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: know exactly what I'm talking about and talk about. They 141 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: got it, They got a game plan. Wasn't until eight, 142 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: nine o'clock. They could have left at seven. The nine 143 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: o'clock them dudes, is today day like this? 144 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah coach? 145 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to sit in here till yeah time 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: about eleven eleven thirty twelve. So yeah, I'm probably just 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna sleep on the air man, Okay, Yeah, I. 148 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: See you tomorrow. Like that's what they doing. They're not 149 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: even going home, and so I ain't doing that, Like 150 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 151 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to coach with a coach and the 152 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: coaching staff where they in there till like ten eleven twelve. 153 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: Sometime they in there till one o'clock in the morning. 154 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Bro, are you getting you getting? You're getting teen on 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Mondays and Tuesdays? 156 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: Easy. 157 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: But from what I've been told, like that's the old 158 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: school coaches. That's the Bill Cowers, the now the Sean 159 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: Payton's all the coaches that came under Parcels probably Dan Campbell, 160 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: them new age coaches, the Sean mcbays, the Matt Lafleor's no, no, no, 161 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: they out of there like eight o'clock, nine o'clock. 162 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Max, that's still eight nine o'clock. 163 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: You got to realize something like you're in there now 164 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: for me, like, okay, you're in there. 165 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: They're in there most of. 166 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Time before the players get say him five and at 167 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: the lady and then they're there. Are another at least 168 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: three to five hours after the players league, especially once 169 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: you get into it into the season. Now they got 170 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: to break down and practice stuff. They got to do 171 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: all that, get ready to prepare something else for the 172 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: next for the next day. Like it's not I'm not, 173 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't. 174 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: I don't love it like that. 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: I do, but I'm I don't love it enough to 176 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: not have a relationship with my kids. And it could 177 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: be because I never met my dad or damn my life. 178 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm a junior. I'm Taraj Schuschmanzaein junior. I never met senior. 179 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know him. I don't know what he 180 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: looked like. 181 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know him, and so that could be why 182 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: I am the way that I am. Never met him. 183 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: And I want to make sure that I'm present for 184 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: my kids. I don't want to just be around. I 185 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: want to be present. I want to go watch their games. 186 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: I want to go to school activities. When my kids 187 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: is playing bro, me and my wife, we ain't miss 188 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: a practice or game, like we sitting there and practice 189 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: chilling like all the parents drop their kids off, they gone. 190 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: We just sit there and were watching practice. Yeah, I 191 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: ain't going to mean for with our son, like I'm 192 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: not the only part of it. Like ownership, Oh I 193 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: for sure. I like that also because I wouldn't be 194 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: in the owner that people want to work for me. 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: Like I believe when you own. 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: Anything, if you treat your employees like they matter, you 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: treat them with the purpose, you make them feel appreciated, 198 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: they gonna go above and beyond. 199 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: And that's the type of owner that I would. 200 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: Be, because your employees are gonna be a reflection of 201 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: how great or how bad your business is and how 202 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: it grows. And so I'm a treat I kind of 203 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of disagree with that in 204 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the football terms, because rather you like or dislike your owner, 205 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: I can still advance myself by making sure the players 206 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: that are under my tuolage do well, and I can 207 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: get out of that situation and advance myself. When you're 208 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: talking about a different kind of business, then yeah, I 209 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: understand that you. 210 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: Make sure they do well. 211 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: And add if you I credit my linebacker coach Keith 212 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: Butler with my development, he should I consider he is the. 213 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Coldest colders linebacker coach I ever had. 214 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: He was able to teach me the game so that 215 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: I could I could understand it because he played the position. 216 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: He understood when he was asking me to do something 217 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: that was difficult, and you know what, you might not 218 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: be able to get it done all the time, but 219 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: this is what you need to do. He gave me 220 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: different things that I could do at the position that 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: still translated. He played back in the seventies, eighties, whatever 222 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: it was, he's still translated. 223 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: No, he's done now. Okay. 224 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: So then when you went to you left Pittsburgh and 225 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: went to Cincinnati, who was your linebacker coach? You got 226 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: me racking my head now, okay, don't lie though. Was 227 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: he trash or was he good? I really didn't have 228 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: to learn anything then, to be honest with you, you know 229 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You, So everything that you were taking Pittsburgh, 230 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: you just kind of carried that. 231 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: You already had. Yeah, already had with me, it already had. 232 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: So I guess position it varies, man, this ship varies. 233 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Gunthers. That sound right, Gunther guna ye yeah, PAULI che yeah, yeah. 234 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: Like I guess it's different about positions because at the 235 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: receiver position. 236 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: You on your own. Bro, you are on your own. 237 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: If you don't get better outside of the building, Man, 238 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: you done. 239 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 2: Thanks teaching to snap down and to come back and 240 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: all the other stuff. 241 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: How they gonna teach it? They ain't never done it. 242 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: They YouTube coaches. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you. 243 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: That's something that I really believe helps players is getting 244 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: a player to come in and coach. But jack players 245 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: can know in respect. We talk about this all the time. 246 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, are you unlike the h A chat 247 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: with like some of your former teammates, like a text 248 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: thread or. 249 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: Yall got man, listen, I got up out of there. Man. 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: You get into one of them. Man, you look at 251 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: your phone. You know, you don't check the everything. You 252 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: go back ten minutes later, it's one hundred and seventy five. 253 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: Ta, you ain't got to read them. You gotta read 254 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: them all just to catch up. 255 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Nah, I don't do that, So I'm in. I'm in 256 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: those right, chat, Ain't it? 257 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: Also? 258 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes like me and everybody don't always comment, But I 259 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: say that to say is we talk about that all 260 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: the time. Is coaches are intimidated by former players. If 261 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: they weren't a former player, they a intimidated by that pause. 262 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: The current players are going to listen to you more 263 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: than they listen today, coach, and they feel threatened. 264 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: They feel threatened, like. 265 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Bro, if Buddy plays well, you getting all the credit, 266 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: they not gonna get me nonhing, Like why do you 267 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: feel threatened? 268 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm not taking your job? That to me is the 269 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: like the receiver position. 270 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: It's probably five good coaches in the league, Bro, five 271 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: the rest of them. 272 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: Get on YouTube. 273 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: They'll see so and so run a really good route 274 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: and think that's how you run all your routes. No, 275 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: that was just a mistake play Literally, DV played that position. 276 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: That's what he needed to do. Like, you can't run 277 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: every route like that that d d ain't gonna. 278 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: Play that thing the same way. 279 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've seen it first had and I'm 280 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: not even gonna name the team. 281 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm not No, I'm not do that. I'm not gonna 282 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: do it, even name the coach. But what teams you 283 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: played on? No, No, I didn't play for this coach 284 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: and I didn't play for this team. Okay, what teams 285 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: did you play for? Then? I played? 286 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I went Sinci, Seattle, Baltimore, the Raiders. My last year 287 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: with the Raiders, I should have played. 288 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: So we know it ain't them. 289 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: No, it ain't none of those teams. Okay, too many teams. 290 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna figure this one out. But this coach, 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: bro saw him there I'm watching and he started to 292 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: implement drills and teach guys how to do this. Noah, 293 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: don't get me here, man, No, this is a truth. 294 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: This is a true story. I know what you're about 295 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: to say. Man, he got you doing the drill that 296 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: don't even correlate to anything that's gonna happen on one player. 297 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: And believe me, I know I've seen it. And so 298 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: hold up though. So one of the players, one of 299 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the starters, was he wasn't practicing. So I'm standing watching. 300 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: He's standing next to me and he talking like this 301 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: with his hand over us. Now so the coach nobody 302 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: can read his lips because you know it's cameras, and 303 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: he was like, you agree with this? 304 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: I was like nah. He was like, I know you 305 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: don't agree with this. Bullshit. 306 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Man, I don't know why he got us doing this. 307 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: And so then the other players he come asking me 308 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: throughout the day and the next day because I went 309 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: to a couple of the practices and so then the 310 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: coach asked me, like what do you think? And I said, 311 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't agree with it, but I won't undermine you. 312 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna teach them something different than you teaching 313 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: because this is your job. 314 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: I won't do that. 315 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: But they feel so threatened that they don't want you 316 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: a ram. That is the problem. Like you gotta get 317 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: receiver position. If you don't get better on your own, 318 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: it's a rap. And that's why I think the receivers 319 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: coming in are much better now because they are getting 320 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: better on their own. 321 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Now. 322 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: They may run into a trash trainer here and there, 323 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: but for the most part, these dudes is getting better 324 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: on their own because coaches, and they know this. Offensive 325 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: line coaches, they don't want to bring in a former 326 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: player because the majority of the former player is gonna 327 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: teach something different than what the old line coach is 328 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: teaching because. 329 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: He ain't never done it. 330 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: There's some good ones, but the majority of them mark 331 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: the receiver coaches though, bro, I promise you, man, it's comical. 332 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: It's comical. Like oh no, no, no, no, believe me. I've 333 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard of things that nods. 334 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 2: That I trained. 335 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: Well. 336 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: Literally, man, I can show you, text me, I put 337 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: up here, but then you'll see the name and they'll 338 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: figure out who the coach is. But like they literally 339 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: will call and text me and be like, oh my god, dude, 340 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: this dude don't know anything. He's like nothing. 341 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: Man, listen, listen, just listen. 342 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: I've seen I heard I heard a linebacker drill where 343 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: they had the linebackers like you shuffle, punch over the bag, 344 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: then you then you then you passed russ, you stripped 345 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and then you dropped for it. 346 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: Then you dropped for a pass to pick it off. 347 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: That was all that, Yeah, that was all in. 348 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm like okay, and then you know, everybody 349 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: trying to reinvent the whell you know what I'm saying, like, no, 350 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: stick with you know, stick with or work you want 351 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: to come up with this, you want to be the 352 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: mastermind in this new defense that got fifty thousand gaps 353 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: in it. You know it's not gonna work. If people think, oh, 354 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: you in the NFL, it's the best of the best. 355 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: When it comes to coaching, that's not the case. No, 356 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: You've got some great coaches, but you got some terrible 357 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: l ass co Like there's good doctors, there's bad doctors. 358 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: Yes, you have police officers. There's bad police officers. 359 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: There's good teachers, there's bad teachers, and some of them 360 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: coaches are bad teachers. And they don't realize that. I 361 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: just know at the receiver position, it's very few, and 362 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: they the ones they know who they are. Yards with 363 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: the Rams, great mccardal with the Vikes, great a Dub 364 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: with the Saints, great, uh, Sean Jefferson great. 365 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know where Sean at now, and I 366 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: probably left out like two more. That's it, Troy. 367 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: Everybody else, everybody else is trash and they and they 368 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: know it. They know it. They okay, they getting on YouTube, 369 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: Instagram and teaching some that ain't realistic, but they think 370 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: they right. They really be thinking they're right. And I 371 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: just believe me, man, I totally. I've seen I've heard 372 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: of it sometimes I've seen it, you know, but it's 373 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: down near every position, but one TJ. He would like 374 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: to get in the front office. TJ would like to 375 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: get on. I'll be a called ass on. You also 376 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: got to realize, like some some coaches that are in 377 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: that position may not hire a guy that they that 378 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: could do a better job because maybe they're threat you know, 379 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: they don't want to have they don't want to have 380 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: to have any pushback, you know, at any of their 381 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, coaching positions, at any of their you know, 382 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: coordinator positions. 383 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: They want to be able to do what they want 384 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: to do. 385 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: So you know, you get you know, you may get 386 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: guys that are getting hired and the like, who is that? 387 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: Who is that? You know what I'm saying. 388 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably somebody that can do the job, 389 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: but they're going to be easily pushed around. They're not 390 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: going to push back on anything. And you know, you 391 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: gotta realize you get hired by somebody. You know, you 392 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: can't do too much pushing anyway unless y'all have a 393 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: relationship built already where y'all have an understanding because you 394 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: can lose your job when he said, coaches talk to 395 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: you like you the son and they the daddy. 396 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: And that's another reason. 397 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: Like if I'm not highly up here, like man, ain't 398 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: no way ahead a grown man that's gonna yell at 399 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: me and disrespect me. And I don't second nothing. I'm 400 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: not sitting there taking that. I'm not sitting there taking that. 401 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: So I'm getting fired first, second, third day, I don't know. 402 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: I know you. I'm gonna look at it. Who the 403 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: fuck are you talking to? 404 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: That's the first That's what I would get your They're 405 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: gonna be called a security argument, but it is a 406 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: lot of that, and we're gonna transition then is it's 407 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: out confrontational, but it's confrontation on the business world. This 408 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: is we doing this for Chad because my boy Chad 409 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: is a huge soccer fan. In Europe, they call it 410 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: football killing. Ibope, you watch a little soccer, you know 411 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: that is who the fuck is ut? 412 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: Okay? He a little light skin he called in soccer 413 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: though he called. 414 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: So he sues PSG for sixty one million dollars in 415 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: unpaid wages. Now sixty one thousand, sixty one elms in 416 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: unpaid wages. I don't know like the ins and outs 417 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: of it, but sixty one million. So I bring that 418 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: up to say, at one point in time you was 419 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: up for contract negotiations, did you ever have any moments 420 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: where you just was heated and it just went less? No? 421 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: I let I really let my agent take care of 422 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: all of that. I didn't. 423 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: I didn't talk directly to anybody, because you know, that's 424 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: what you're aident is there for to be the middle man, 425 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: to be to be the person that I'm gonna go 426 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say something reckless and crazy to him 427 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: and he go put it into good words, you know, 428 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: to them. 429 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: So I didn't. 430 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: I didn't talk to I didn't talk to anybody when 431 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: I when I did my contract negotiation, when you would 432 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: actual agent like hey, what's going on, and he would 433 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: tell you like it didn't kind of piss you off 434 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. 435 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: It just depends on what it is. And and a. 436 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: Lot of the negotiation stuff that you know I was 437 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: going through, it was you got to realize you start 438 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: they starting low, they starting low, they low balling you. Yeah, 439 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: they low balling you. And like my first time ever. 440 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah I was hot. He was like, don't worry about it. 441 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: This is what this is how it goes. This is 442 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: what happens. You know what I'm saying. So you know, 443 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: once I realized that, you know, you just go back 444 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: to them real fast, like Nope, not happening, come back 445 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: with something else. I don't know if it happened to 446 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: me like that, but when I when I left the Bengals, 447 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: I had a certain number in my mind, like, you're 448 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: gonna compare me to this receiver. Cool, I'm gonna compare 449 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: myself to that same receiver. Oh, my stats are now 450 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: better than that receiver. I'm doing more than this receiver. 451 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna compare myself to this receiver. And 452 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: I think what happens is when you see yourself here 453 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: and the team sees you here, it starts to get 454 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: a little personal. I know when I left the Bengals, 455 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: I left it was strictly a financial decision. 456 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: It wasn't you. I'm a dude. 457 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: I get comfortable and if I can make it work, 458 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it work, and that's what I wanted 459 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: to do. But it was like I was drafted late. 460 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: You were undrafted. We we got to get every dollar 461 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: a week and get finally be taking those discounts. Right, 462 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm getting frustrated about, like, y'all really offering 463 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: me this. I was underpaid the last three years, so 464 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: y'all got me at a discount for three years. 465 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: Now you're really gonna try to load. So I was. 466 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I was frustrated, and so that's why I left Cincinnati 467 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: and went to Seattle. And then the Bengals turned around 468 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: and they signed Antonio O'Brien. Antoniobrian went to Pick and 469 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: there they basically gave him what you want to be, right, Yeah, 470 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: but a little more more than they offered me, but 471 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: a little less than what I wanted, right. Okay, he 472 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: played there one year, one season, so he got like 473 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen million guaranteed, one season done. They released me, 474 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: didn't do nothing. I don't know if he was hurt 475 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: or not, because he was a baller. Then the next year, wait, 476 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm off they signed Laverniest First. They sign Lavernius Coles first, 477 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: got rid of him after one year. The next year 478 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: they signed Antonio Bryant. That's what it was. So those 479 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: two seasons was twenty four million in guaranteed money that 480 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: they gave both of them. If they would have given 481 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: that shit to me, I would have walked from California 482 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati to sign that guy straight up. And so 483 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't like a like a baden. It was just 484 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: like I couldn't believe it because that year, the year 485 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: that I left, they actually made the playoffs and they 486 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: played the Jets, and that's when they put Reavis on 487 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: Chad and the other receiver couldn't get open. And I'm like, 488 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: if I was there, we would have won because I 489 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: for sure gonna get open. That's a nick in tea. 490 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting open. And all y'all had to do was 491 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: slide me a few more millions. But y'all end up 492 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: giving these dudes twenty four over two years, and I'm like, damn, 493 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: that hurt me in the pocket, and it hurt them 494 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: on the field and in the pocket because they didn't 495 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: get no return on their investment the playoff game, so 496 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: they had made more money off of that. And so 497 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: that for me was like the only time that I 498 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: went through a negotiation that I felt like, oh, man, 499 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: like this. 500 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: Is kind of pissing me off. And then you see 501 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: what happens, like you I left here, that's a little different. 502 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: I never went to I never went through anything like that. 503 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: And like no loud or it kind of pisses you 504 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: off because you're calling your agent like, hey, what's going on. 505 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: Ah, they at this number. You think they're gonna get up. 506 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. Then they call you a couple of 507 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: days later. You see that. You'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 508 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: something that happened. What's up? Same thing. 509 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: So then you start to get frustrated because every time 510 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: you talk to him, it's the same thing. Nah, I 511 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: ain't move yet. Nah, it ain't move yet. So then 512 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: at a certain time you're like, man, they don't even 513 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: take they calls. No more fucking we leaving, don't take 514 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: their calls. I don't get the fuck Like. It starts 515 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: to make you rangy. So then when you're regn, you 516 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: happy that you resigned, but you still had that animosity 517 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: over the months of them bs and thenh fuck him. 518 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: Na So for me, yeah, but damn I'll show I 519 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: know they regret that because twenty four million over two 520 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: years at that time, that's twelve many year. 521 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: The highest paid receiver in the league. 522 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken back then was probably twelve or thirteen. 523 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: And then I go to Seattle and I was making 524 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: eighty year. 525 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: I think I was like the sixth seventh highs paid 526 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: receiver in the league at that point. But the Bengals 527 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: could have had me, and they gave that money to 528 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: two other guys. And it was just unfortunate because Leburnie 529 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: his cause when he was with the Jets and at 530 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: the time the Reskins, he was a baller. And then 531 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: then On o'brown was a baller also. He was just 532 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: a hot heir. You remember when he threw this jersey 533 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: and Bill Parcell's face. They had that all on ESPN, 534 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: no id CA. Yeah what Bill Parcells says, something crazy 535 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: Tantonio Brian and he wouldn't take he he was the 536 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: original a. 537 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: B Okay, Okay, he was the original a b. 538 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: He took his jersey off, bro, you gotta took his 539 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: jersey through a right in Bill Parcell's face. And you 540 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: know Bill Parcells at that time, he had a reputation 541 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: like run up on him if you want to. 542 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: Type of coach. 543 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: He ran up on him and call security got him 544 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: up out of there when he was with the Cowboys. Yeah, 545 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: you google that, Yeah, I want to check that out. Yeah, yeah, no, 546 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: I think we have a clip of this man. 547 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: This is crazy. What what a father? His son is. 548 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: A about to play Pop Warner football? 549 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: Right then? 550 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: When he found out how much much it costs. I 551 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't say he went crazy, but he was. 552 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: He was. He was a little upset about the cost 553 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: of it. So how much? World? Look? Check it out? 554 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: Why does it cold so much to play pop winning football? 555 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: Why is it six twenty for one of my kids 556 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: one to play taco football? I know him a little 557 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: bit older. When I was coming up, it was fifty dollars. 558 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: That was a special to my mama at the time. 559 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 3: But being realistic, that was not a spensive But six twenty. 560 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: What is money going? This money going somewhere? Somebody please 561 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: tell me? 562 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: Why is is this? What you do you think that's 563 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: a lot? 564 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of money. Like you said 565 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: when we played it was it was a lot cheaper. 566 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: But also I don't think it was Listen but. 567 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: Changed fifty dollars inflation number one? Yes, times of time, 568 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: and we both of us and we older than him. 569 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: He looked like he young, we both older than him. Yeah, 570 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: but now you know, times haven't change. You got you 571 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: got different sets of rules in place. You gotta realize, 572 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: like is it uh, like are they paying. 573 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: For the uniform? Do they get to keep the uniform? 574 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: The helmets? Like the helmets themselves? The helmet. 575 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: Everybody got to get their own helmets, shoulder pads, cleats. 576 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: You that you have to get on your own. 577 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: They got to get that by themselves without the team 578 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: giving it to them. Shoulder pads and helmets and cleats. Hell, yeah, 579 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: that's only win my kids. My kids get shouler pass 580 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: and helmets from the school, high school, from the organism 581 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: or from the organization that they're playing with. 582 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: Pop Warner. 583 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: That's like pee wee, right, yeah, the same thing. Nah, 584 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: not out here or that now here. You you getting 585 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: a uniform and a field to practice at. 586 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: That's it. 587 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: So you got to buy your health. That's not with 588 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: helmet and shoulder pasts. No, that's crazy. They got to control. 589 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: Somebody's stealing, somebody putting money in their pocket. They feeding 590 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: the kids, and what are they doing? Are they feeding 591 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: the kids out there are they like it gotta be 592 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: something else going into that. If you look at it, 593 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be twenty to thirty kids. Right, twenty 594 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: to thirty kids, uh at six hundred. Let's just say 595 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: as thirty kids. That's eighteen thousand, right, eight ten thousand dollars. 596 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: You're practicing two to three times a week. How much 597 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: you think they charge you for the field per day? 598 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: Let's say one hundred dollars an hour because you got 599 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: the lights that right there. If you just practicing two hours, uh, 600 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: three days a week, two four six, that's twenty four 601 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: hundred just the practice field and you're going for four months, 602 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: So that right there is down near ten grand just 603 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: with field. We'n through just to practice ten grand. So 604 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: now we're working with eight thousand dollars. Now what that 605 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: intels maybe is to get them the snacks after the 606 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: game or pregame. I don't know what it is, but 607 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: I think now and today's that's about right, because this 608 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: is what happens. 609 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: Man. 610 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: A lot of the coaches that coach you football, they 611 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: end up spending their money. Oh yeah, there are money 612 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: on these kids. And granted, some coaches can afford it. 613 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: Others can't. But I don't know how it is in Pittsburgh. 614 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: But out here my son is not. He's yet to 615 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: play tackle football. He will be playing next year, but 616 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: he's yet to play it. But I just know from 617 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: people that I've talked to, Oh man, these parents have 618 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: no loyalty to zero. 619 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: So soon as you do something wrong, even your team, they. 620 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Going to somebody else. But you don't put two three 621 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars into her or his son. But you piss 622 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: him off, or they feel like another team is better, 623 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: or they son has now gotten better, so we can 624 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: go get on a better team. 625 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: Keep leaving. Well, that's what the fee for. You want 626 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: to leave, go ahead and leave it. 627 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold onto this money exactly exactly. But now 628 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: you get a coach that's kind of footing the bill 629 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: out his pocket and then they leave. Now it's like, wow, 630 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: that's how they're gonna do me, cause so I don't 631 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: that's six hundred dollars feet I don't remember how much. 632 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: If you're footing the bill for a kid, the talent 633 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: is worth you taking a chance of footing that bill, 634 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, you know. 635 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why you foot it. 636 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the chance you take. 637 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 638 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: You know when you going and you know what, Oh 639 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: you can't afford it. Okay, listen, let me do this. 640 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, I got it, I got I got it. 641 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take care of this. I'm gonna 642 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: take care of that. So now like sick time come 643 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: they upset he didn't get enough snaps, he didn't get. 644 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: This, or or I don't in the middle of the season. 645 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know if you can go from team 646 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: to team. 647 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how the rules work, like if you 648 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: leave in the middle of the season, can you play 649 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: for another team? But that that is I didn't play 650 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: Pop more than coming up, so I don't know. 651 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: But if I thought it was. 652 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: Like one hundred dollars, bro like one fifty, but six 653 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: hundred day, like that's that's it. If it was a 654 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: hundred right now, dude, it's a it's still a fee. 655 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: My kids, you know they played the public school. Still 656 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: a fee, and it's you know, it's it's a little 657 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: less than that, but it's six hundred though, right Yeah, 658 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: So that's to me. I think that spirit Buddy Act 659 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: like like he was flat fifty dollars. Yeah, yeah, and 660 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: they feed them and all that. You know what I'm saying, 661 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: like fifty dollars worth, Like he talking about it, he's 662 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: used to being fed one where you're playing man two 663 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: at the parking lot. 664 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get a park, a field, a 665 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: high school. 666 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Now if you practice there are certain cases I know 667 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: out here when you have a really good organization and 668 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: a really good team you get you use one of 669 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: these high schools out here to practice that because your 670 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,959 Speaker 1: team is so good and your players are so good, 671 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: they hoping that some of those players attend the high 672 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: school that you practice at, so they'll let you use 673 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: their fields. Outside of that, man, you football, just being 674 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: a coach is expensive. And like I coached my son 675 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: seven on seven. Uh, this past spring we went ten 676 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: and oher won the championship. We went blow them out 677 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: thirty five zero the championship game. You know, Uh, I'm 678 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: a brag a little bit, but we beat the ass. 679 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: Beat the ass, right, wow, you beat the kids out. 680 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 2: Okay, but the cup but this no, no, no, no no. 681 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: The coach really was like talking shit, like I think 682 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: they thought they beat my homie team. 683 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: In a semi theyve been So you gotta realize this. 684 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: They didn't. 685 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: They weren't. They weren't beating your kids. They were beating 686 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: you exactly. They were beating you. It has nothing to 687 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: do with the kids. Yes, it's now I get an 688 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to go out here as a coach, but my 689 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: kids is playing and I get to beat Hugh sman Zada. Yeah, 690 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tear his ass up because I know better 691 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: than him. I could have played in the league. And 692 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: you know what, now's my chance and opportunity for my 693 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: son to do what it is I should have did 694 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: to him. 695 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 2: If they had just gained me his shot. 696 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you they I know it's I know it's 697 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: like that. They'll tell their kid to really go at 698 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: my son. So that's why my son know, Like, yeah, 699 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: like they I told. I told my kids that. I said, listen, man, 700 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: it's people right now. It's telling their son to try 701 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: and tear your head off. You hold on, Hey the 702 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: luck boy, I'll be at the game. 703 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: Dominate the ass dominate. 704 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: They asked, my son got a bad baketball game that 705 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: he's going to when he about to leave, So yeah, yeah, yeah, 706 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: as soon as we've done with this podcast, I'm going 707 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: to the gym. Hey Foot on throats, boy foot on throats. 708 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: We ain't playing no games today. So yeah, yeah, sorry 709 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: y'all they walk off, Carol, Yeah, yeah good. So we 710 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: did the seven on seven right, and we had some 711 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: kids that come from the inner city, cool parents and 712 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: they probably could afforded it too, even though they come 713 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: from the city. 714 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: Parents were successful, and so uh me and another coach. 715 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: The other coach got the uniforms and then I paid 716 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: the entry fee. 717 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: Because the majority. 718 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: But the parents could afford it, but not everybody, right, 719 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: So he was just like, I get the uniforms, and 720 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, then I got the entry 721 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 1: feet in entry fee was more than the uniforms. Cool, 722 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: but when it comes to like, it's expensive and it's 723 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: hard for parents to budget that, Like, I mean, I 724 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: think the entry fee was. Was it fifteen fifteen or 725 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred? And it was only six weeks. You play everyday, 726 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: you play every Sunday. You get two games on a Sunday, 727 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: two games on a sunner's total or per kid, no, no, 728 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: no total total total. But we only playing with seven 729 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: eight kids, eight kids. We probably played with eight, sometimes 730 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: we'd be at seven. And so that's a little over too. 731 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: If we had divided it, it's a little over two 732 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars per kid. And then you do the uniform. 733 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: It's probably the uniforms I think ended up being like 734 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: nine hundred, So everybody's uniform was about a hundred. So 735 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: then now that's three hundred dollars per kid. But it's 736 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: only a six week season. Parents can't afford that, and 737 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, yeah, I got it, not 738 00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: a big deal. 739 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: And then. 740 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: That's just seven on seven for that sixth period, I 741 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: mean six week ton frame. What happened when you go 742 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: play top what happened if you go play basketball, what 743 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: happened if you try to play other sports? And that's 744 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: what I do want to get into is the one 745 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: sport athlete. So just bring that up when you talk 746 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: other sports. But the six hundred dollars, I don't think 747 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: it was I don't think it was an out way. 748 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: I mean I don't, I don't. I don't think that 749 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: was out of out of pocket. 750 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't astronomical too, you know, to think that it 751 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: would be uh to think it would be fifty dollars 752 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: is out of control though, you know it is astronomical 753 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: because when you go get a helmet, like you get 754 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: a good helmet, that's probably six hundred dollars. 755 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 2: Oh, I know. 756 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: That you get you get you get that new one. 757 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: What is it the flex something Steve Flex. No, it's 758 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: a different one, dude. It's the one where they actually 759 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: put it on their head and uh they three D 760 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: image it and then go make the helmet. So that's 761 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: like that's like eight hundred bucks. 762 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. So you gotta go lie that when 763 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: you James Harrison, they're gonna give you that ship for free. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 764 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 2: I don't know what it costs, so just ain't paying it. 765 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: You know, you're usually you paid for it, but you 766 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 2: don't know what I paid for it. 767 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, like your shoulder pads, like yeah, lay sports is 768 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: expensive and a lot of time the coaches take on 769 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: that expense. So your parents that's listening shows some type 770 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: of loyalty because they doing it for your kid. And yeah, 771 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: they doing it because the kid is good, but it's 772 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: some kids that aren't good that they also doing it for. 773 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: Because the kid, it keeps him off the streets, it 774 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: gives him something to do and maybe he'll develop. 775 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: Who knows. 776 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: I was a zero star recruit coming out of high 777 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: school and played a long time. You run drafted and 778 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: you're about to you're gonna be in the Hall of Fame, 779 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: and so you just never know.