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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Radio Row. I'm Peanut Tillman and this

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Speaker 1: is my good trust the old uncle Roman Harper. We're

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Speaker 1: two days, one hour, thirty seven minutes and six seconds

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Speaker 1: away from Super Bowl fifty seven Chiefs Eagles, Radio Row.

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Speaker 1: It's going down. It's been exciting, it's been action packed.

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Speaker 1: We've had great guests, we had great times. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm dressed for us to death today. You didn't tell

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Speaker 1: me you could have dress better. But it's all right.

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Speaker 1: We got Howard in the building. It's been good. Um,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty seven. Everybody's excited. You can really tell

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere starting to heat up and people starting to

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Speaker 1: leave Radio Row. That means against time for starting it

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Speaker 1: down a little bit. So what's up man? Um? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, before I tell you what's up, um,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank all of our listeners out there

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Speaker 1: for tuning in as always, Make sure you continue to

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Speaker 1: tell a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend. UH.

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Speaker 1: somebody to subscribe. Thank you appreciate as always, the episodes

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Speaker 1: are gonna keep coming in. We're gonna keep dialing it

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Speaker 1: up the rest of the week. We've got great guests,

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Speaker 1: Brand Marshall, Andrew Hawkins, UH, Troy Jones, we talked to them.

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Speaker 1: Make sure y'all listen to the pod. UH. Great conversations

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Speaker 1: with these Uh. These men are doing uh post career,

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Speaker 1: their transition and their second act really got some great stuff.

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Speaker 1: So you you guys, make sure you guys tune in.

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Speaker 1: You know what, this is something off the cup, But

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Speaker 1: this is what I've been noticing. I've been here for

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Speaker 1: two days now, and I'm all about you know what

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Speaker 1: is my own personal notes and what I've seen and

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Speaker 1: acknowledged from my first experience on radio row. For me,

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Speaker 1: it's all about the entourage. And you know what that

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Speaker 1: is the entourage of who's coming with the superstars and

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Speaker 1: who's doing the radio real clicks. You freaked out or not?

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say freaked out? What what entourage was the

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Speaker 1: biggest for you? Yeah, because it's all about numbers. For me,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're holding the phone. It's all right.

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Speaker 1: The biggest entourage. Let me just answer the question. The

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Speaker 1: biggest entourage from me it's between Dion Sanders. He was deep.

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Speaker 1: Dion was deep custom deep. The next one Shannon sharp deep.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I get it. Shannon's the man, He's

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Speaker 1: doing great thing. How many people deep would Shannon was

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Speaker 1: probably seven or eight deep, Keon was probably eight to nine.

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Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith probably had twelve. Look at look at

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Speaker 1: pretty he's walking by right now to the right. He's

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Speaker 1: got a little entourage, I mean one to three full five, No,

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Speaker 1: it's just three people everything. I'm telling you. Look, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: The the entourage you pick up when you win some

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Speaker 1: throw the ball no more. It's just crazy. But everybody

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Speaker 1: wants a piece of Now it's good. Do it's good.

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Speaker 1: The last person Joe Montana. Joe Montana came in here

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Speaker 1: deep too the other day. Very exciting. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: biggest Joe Montana fan that you probably could be. And uh,

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Speaker 1: it was just all out of respect. I'm just admiring

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Speaker 1: everybody's entourage. That's what has been big for me. Also, Peanut,

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Speaker 1: you tell me the one thing that's bothered you. I

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Speaker 1: hope you say the right answer here. Can you talk

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Speaker 1: about just everybody following you around, walking around with cameras. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it. I don't like people

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Speaker 1: I think we're so in tune with social media and

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Speaker 1: content creators. Man. I guess so we we mentioned it earlier,

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Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta real treat right now. Um, I

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Speaker 1: want to welcome to the show one of my former teammates,

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Speaker 1: former All Pro receiver and now business media mogul, Brandon Marshall.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to be like you, boss, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the podcast and everything. How you you you got going on.

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Speaker 1: You're like, y'all y'all blew up, y'all, blew all the

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Speaker 1: way up. We'll be big. Well, I think it's more

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Speaker 1: so timing right, like we saw podcast blowing up in

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Speaker 1: the NBA unfiltered and for us in the pandemic. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just had this idea of like, look I just

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Speaker 1: invested fifty and equipment. I had a social media team

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Speaker 1: talking about telling the story of House of Athlete, my

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Speaker 1: wellness company that I'm passionate about is to me as

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Speaker 1: my life's work, and so we're looking at all these

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Speaker 1: resources that we had, was like, let's just try to

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Speaker 1: the stories that we were telling, and it was just

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Speaker 1: the stuff that we talked about all the time. So

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Speaker 1: Penut I mean, uh Julius Peppers, it was always gonna

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Speaker 1: be the same vibe. Like we shared this brotherhood, this fraternity,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, man, it's so special and just putting cameras,

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Speaker 1: lights up, cameras, microphones, that's all it is, Like we're

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Speaker 1: capturing that. You know, That's what this whole space is about.

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Speaker 1: You know. That's one great thing about when we practiced

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Speaker 1: would have, like you're talking about and so I want

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Speaker 1: you to tell me some of the good, Like give

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Speaker 1: me two or three great stories about ump Nut at practice,

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Speaker 1: because I've heard about the rivalry. It is a rivalry

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Speaker 1: and it was definitely some heated battles were my hatred. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So going in to the Chicago Bears, I knew obviously

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how he how elite he was. Right,

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Speaker 1: I practiced against cham Bailey Um after I left Chicago,

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Speaker 1: sit on that and he would be right there. I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 1: how and he's like, well, I'm forcing you to go

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Speaker 1: dudes a lead. And it wasn't just the physical right

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Speaker 1: like he's a specimen tall, the Peanut Punch, but literally

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Speaker 1: every single move that you would make he had an

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Speaker 1: So going into Chicago, I had to put my cleats

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Speaker 1: every single day because I wanted to beat his ass.

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Speaker 1: Can I curse on this podcast? Like that's what I wanted.

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Speaker 1: And I came in very fiery, and I went and say,

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Speaker 1: like you gotta pull us apart whatever. It was legendary practices. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get like some crazy offenses up you gotta score touchdown

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Speaker 1: you can't help. But taking persons like I know, I

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Speaker 1: players like you don't like you like, no, he was

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Speaker 1: holding this, that's passing affairs coached Peanut Cane and it's like, no,

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Speaker 1: time rankings? Do you guys know this? That's where you

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Speaker 1: think b Marshall you are eighty one. Yeah, Peanut you

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Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? Well? First, I think

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Speaker 1: some legendary Bears that That's what I loved about the organization.

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Speaker 1: like you, you know, but when you look back, it's like, man,

423
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: this dude made me better. And you're a phenomenal person

424
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: what you do in the community and the family. And

425
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: you also were one of those guys while you were

426
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: playing what you were doing with the government still do right,

427
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: like you are a blueprint for a lot of us. So, like,

428
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: I know, we had some tough battles out there, but

429
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: you made me better and all of you guys did

430
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: so I'm appreciative of you, man. I received that. I

431
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 1: appreciate you, thanks for coming on the show. Thank you.

432
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: We're joined by two men who are changing the game

433
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Speaker 1: of virtual reality with our company, Status Pro, Andrew Hawkins

434
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: and Troy Jones. What's going on, fellas? Appreciate you all coming,

435
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: not too much. Appreciate you guys having this man. So

436
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: one of the questions I really want to get to

437
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: right away is, uh, Lamar Jackson. How in the world

438
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: did y'all get him to be like the face of

439
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: Status Status Pro? Also, how did you too link up

440
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: to do this together? Did then get another guy? You

441
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: gotta start the yeah, yeah, yeah, jumped the gun. So

442
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: originally to me and Troy were both former athletes. He

443
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: was a Division one quarterback. Obviously I played in the league.

444
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: Um while I was playing in the league, my older

445
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: brother played in the league back in the day. I

446
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: got family members, and from my perspective, it was like, okay,

447
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: in sports, when you're done, as you guys know, there's

448
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: not a lot of avenues for you to continue to

449
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: affect the game that you devote at your life too,

450
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: And so I was trying to figure out a way

451
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: to make the fact that you have experienced playing the

452
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: value propositions. So I started a company that was gonna

453
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: start mobile application that literally would be just that the

454
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: value was their expertise and so and that is I'm like, man,

455
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 1: it's just like sixty and I'm in the league. I'm

456
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: trying to get this company going. I'm trying to think

457
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: of the next step. And I'm like, man, VR and

458
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: A are is where things are going? How do we

459
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: get there? And so I like basically scoured the country

460
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: looking for for companies to partner with. To make a

461
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: long story short, Troy was running a sports strategy for VR,

462
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: A our company that thought the same thing, and as

463
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: former athletes, we just super clicked and it was like

464
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: we met I think a seventeen um and then in

465
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: lateen we like kind of came back together and started like, Yo,

466
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: what does this look like to do this? Y'all study

467
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: this in college like undergrad as far as like programming

468
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: or so. My story is obviously I didn't make it

469
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: to the league, So like most athletes transitioning from college,

470
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what my next step is

471
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: rey at that point, so I had a bunch of

472
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: random jobs from working in them all. Its working at

473
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: you know and finance at Morgan Stanley. Eventually I landed

474
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: at the n f L p A is an intern

475
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: and really just trying to trying to figure out, all right,

476
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: where's the opportunity and it may make an impact, right

477
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: like ultimately, as kids, that's ultimately what you want to do.

478
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Let your name mean something sports. So at that time

479
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: I got introduced the virtual reality. I obviously understood the

480
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: athlete perspective of where the game was going. Right in

481
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: the p A, obviously the focus is preserved the player,

482
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: protect the player. Um So I partnered with two other gentlemen.

483
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: We built this product that allowed players to practice against

484
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: holograms because during phase one to begin to part O

485
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: t A is you're not allowed to line up against

486
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: a heartbeat, right, So this idea of all right, instead

487
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: of you know, you simulating walk throughs against a trans can,

488
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 1: what does it look like to actually put the defense

489
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: up on on this big wall, through wall or through

490
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: the VR headset and have your guys cycle through rep

491
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: cycle through formations. We ended up getting the Ravens to

492
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: sign up. So from there I left the p A

493
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: went into this full time. That's when Hawk and I

494
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: connected and we kind of just hit it off running

495
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, and then we're business guys like our

496
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: backgrouard players, but we understand like we're also both started

497
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: as walk on That significant because we earned scholarships and

498
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: obviously went even even further. But it was like we

499
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: approached the game from all the different angles, from preparation,

500
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: how you prepare, knowing everybody on the field and what

501
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: their jobs are, understanding from a fan aspect, you know

502
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we're not five star recruits and that

503
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: that's significant. So as we built the consumer product and

504
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: it's from the eyes of the athlete, it's like, yo,

505
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: we are the best founder market fit to create this

506
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: experience because we've been there a quarterback, and he's a quarterback.

507
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: He knows how you scan the field, the things that

508
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: as a fan they've always wanted that last level of access,

509
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: which is what does it feel like to be on

510
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: the field. And again we were subject matter experts there

511
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: and we just continued to build from that. So you're

512
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: selling me on it right now and I don't know

513
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: all of what it is. Like, how how did you

514
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: sell lamar on On on your products? Yeah, so when

515
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: we first have to had the training product that was

516
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: going well, but then we saw this. We would put

517
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: the headset on players, they would have fun, they wouldn't

518
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: want to take it off. So I got together was

519
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: like the head said, what is what? What it was?

520
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: At the time, it was reality headset. It's called the

521
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: Microsoft HoloLens. Now in the game, we'll get to that,

522
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: but it's on like the quest vr ha sbr UM.

523
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: But we was like, what does it look like to

524
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 1: build a game from it? It was nothing that ever existed.

525
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: We knew the next step for fans was seeing what

526
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: it would be like to be their favorite athletes and

527
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: who's a human video game. At the time, it was

528
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, so he didn't have any endorsement deals at

529
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: the time. It was his high year when he won

530
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: the MVP. We had some mutual connections, so we're like, hey,

531
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: let's approach him and him and Felicia on it. The

532
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: one thing about Lamar and Felicia is they love authenticity.

533
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: They respect people who can who can relate. So we

534
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: went to them with the opportunity. We put the headset

535
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: on Felicia first. She loved it, believed in it's all

536
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: the future. Eventually got what l did the same thing

537
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Um and the rest was history. Now, he obviously is

538
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: a big believer in a company, big believer in us,

539
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: and practically family so and I think it was like

540
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: a mutual like risks that that was taking right, Like,

541
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: we started talking about Lamar after his rookie year, and

542
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: that was when everyone was like, Oh, he's running the ball,

543
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: he's not this, and he's not that, and we were like, yo,

544
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: we think this guy is going to be the next level.

545
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: You think he's going to shock people. And that's when

546
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: we started the conversations that I think our belief in

547
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: that and then their belief in us, because at the time,

548
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: it was just me and him and we're gonna We're saying, hey,

549
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna build this NFL game, We're gonna do all

550
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: these things, and there was nothing that has ever been

551
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: like that before. And they were they were still like, Oh,

552
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: we think we believe in YouTube, we believe in the

553
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: vision that you're painting, and we're willing to basically going

554
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: on this road together. And here we are to three

555
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: years later. Well, it's it's crazy because like I grew

556
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: up a video game advocate, like I'm all in on

557
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: video games, and so now as everything has advanced. You

558
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: know Madden you can do thirty different things with each

559
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: individual player. Now about a couple of pushes the button,

560
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: and it's all going towards virtual reality because you want

561
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: to be there. Not only do I want to I

562
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: don't want to hit the button. I want to throw

563
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: the pass now. And you're allowing these people to do

564
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: this and give it the opportunity. I saw Mina Kimes

565
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: was doing something on one of you guys social media pushes.

566
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Big fan of Mina. She's a football junkie. So the

567
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: more and more you get and you just introduce you

568
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: to people, people that love football, that they want to

569
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 1: play it but can't play it, this is a perfect

570
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: opportunity for him. So I kind of like it. I

571
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: need to put on some some goggles and get this

572
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: thing at least to try. I want to win it

573
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. I need to try this thing a

574
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: couple of times. Is it on the so? Is that

575
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: how you I got the first one? I got the

576
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: black Oculus, so I got to bother to sit the

577
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: new Oculus. We're also dropping on the PSBR two, which

578
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: has a new headset coming out in February for the

579
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: PlayStation five. This month, so yeah, get on there. It

580
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: really is like an experience you've never had, you guys specifically,

581
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: and that was kind of the insight we had early

582
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: on is we had this idea, but we probably put

583
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 1: it on to this point probably a five thousand players,

584
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: and each and every time they take it off and

585
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: they're like, Yo, that feels exactly like it was on

586
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: the field, and it's going to take you back. Man.

587
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: My brother played teenage in the league, and he he

588
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: had like, you haven't had that feeling in nine years?

589
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: How would it in a quick version, Like, explain it

590
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: to me if when I put it on and I'm

591
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: not actually running, or am I if I'm a d lineman,

592
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: do I just do my hands like left right or

593
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: the farterback to start that. We're gonna eventually add all

594
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: the other positions. But the first part of the experience,

595
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: when you first enter in you're running out of the tunnel,

596
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: because we all know that as we're playing the game exactly,

597
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: and I talked about it like, all right, what do

598
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: we want our first time user experience to be? We're like, yo,

599
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: running out of the tunnel. For me, it was my

600
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: first game in college. We played Miami. I remember it. It

601
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: It was a labor day weekend night. He talked about

602
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: his experience, so we put that in and that's something

603
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: that everybody loves. Right as far as the game, you're

604
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback and feeling everything that comes with being the

605
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: quarterback to control the command, Like everything starts and ends

606
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: with you, right, So we're starting there, but the goal

607
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: is to build it out to where again, eventually we

608
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: got all positions that you can play a virtual game.

609
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: Me and Hart versus y'all too. You know, I'm quarterback,

610
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: he receiver and we're just going back and forth. Let's go. Yeah,

611
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be done. Number one. I could probably let's go.

612
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm reading right now. You guys talked about

613
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: YouTube and the team even coming together and all these

614
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: other things, and maybe you guys tell me your experience

615
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: or how you feel and knowing that you were two

616
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: young brothers, African American mills in this tech space, there's

617
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: not a lot of representation that looked like you, and

618
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: so how does that make you feel knowing that you're

619
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: doing that, and also what is it going to open

620
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: up the doors to other possibilities for you guys and

621
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: others for me? It was. It was actually a similar

622
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: a lot of parallels when I first started playing quarterback

623
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: when I was younger, right, because this is before today

624
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: right where there's a lot it's a lot of us um,

625
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: but there was perceptions around how you had to be

626
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: to be able to make it through and continue to

627
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: play through high school through college. And I think with

628
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: Hawk and I face is the same thing as entrepreneurs, right, like, Okay,

629
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: you got this perception, go to Harvard, Um. They've had

630
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: this experience, they have that they come from this background

631
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: which we don't have in gaming. Right, we're just two

632
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: dudes that just know how to hustle us that's scrappy um,

633
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: figuring it out as we go along. So it's been

634
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: definitely been a journey, but we were used to that

635
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: because we've always been underdogs. And for me, like I said,

636
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: I pulled from that experience of like feeling like, oh,

637
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I learned in sports was be you like,

638
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: don't how to be the next quarter right, That's that

639
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: way you gotta own into your skills. And I feel

640
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: like we do the same thing with Status Pro. Just

641
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: like Yo, we know what makes us different, we know

642
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: what makes our companies stand out compared to the other

643
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: gaming companies. Let's just lean into that, be that, and

644
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: you know eventually they'll they'll buy in. And I think

645
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: we started to see that success is always, you know,

646
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: the the best source of making believers right. And I

647
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: think for Troy, we made that conscious decision decision really

648
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: early that we were gonna be ourselves because it was

649
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: very easy to go into this and be like, oh,

650
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure we check all these boxes to

651
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: get people to believe. And I'm gonna be completely honest

652
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: and say there is times that works against us a

653
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: lot of times, and even we with proven success, we

654
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: still are trying to bust through the boxes that people

655
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: put us in. But we do think the end result

656
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: is going to be more people that people look at

657
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: and just say, oh, they look what they've done, um,

658
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: look at the way that they work and look at

659
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: the output. We should give more people chances, and that's

660
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: what we're hoping to be. I think it speaks to

661
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: being authentic. Yes, of course. I think when we start

662
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: doing this podcast at some point, at one point in time,

663
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: I think we were trying to do something a certain

664
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: kind of way and be a certain kind of way,

665
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, hey, man, let's just let's just

666
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: be us. Let's just do what we do. Let's just

667
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: put the name on it, you know. I tell Thomas, like,

668
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: if you're gonna give me a question, you can't write

669
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: the whole thing out. I don't sound like that. I

670
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: can't be like that. Just give me a bullet, bro.

671
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: I got auticity. Authenticity's true authentic self. And it kind

672
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: of looks like that's what you're doing. You're taking your

673
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: experiences from from working hard, playing football, and then you're

674
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: applying it to this to the tech world, right, and

675
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: you're making it your own, doing it your own way,

676
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: putting your own little spice on it. And that's yeah,

677
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: that's how you have staying power to right, Like with

678
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: you guys in the podcast, like if you're trying to

679
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: be somebody else, you always be the second version of that.

680
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: If your Peanut and all your viewers like, yo, we

681
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: love Peanut, we love Harp, then there's nobody else that

682
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: can do that. They have to come to you for that.

683
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: So we're building as a company, like we're putting our

684
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: own selves in the product and the way we built it.

685
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: And when there's success and everyone tries to say, well,

686
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: now we're gonna rush to there, They're always going to

687
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: be second fiddle because to get us, you gotta come

688
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: to us, right, And that times into the lamar too. Right.

689
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: So when we sit there with telling him what we're

690
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: gonna do, how we're gonna execute it, and the fact

691
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: that he can relate on this idea of just being

692
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: authentic because obviously he is who he is at all times,

693
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: great guy. If anybody you know that it's close to

694
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: him and tell you how his team guy team got first,

695
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: and you know he's very passionate that way. But he's

696
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: who he is. And some people, you know, they're not

697
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: familiar with it, and you know they have their opinions

698
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: about it. But I think for us that's what brought

699
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: us all close because we're like, we're facing the same

700
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: thing in a different way. Um and now you're starting

701
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: to see the fruits of it with the game being

702
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: out his success. So it's just a lot of a lot.

703
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: I would ask you guys this now, would ask any

704
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: entrepreneur this. That's early stages and a lot of early stages.

705
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: But starting out, you guys are still young in this

706
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: is so how could more people. What can we do

707
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: to help and not only that, but how can we

708
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: help spread the word or what is something that your

709
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: company is looking to do next? Like what's gonna be

710
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: that next step for you guys? It's really great to

711
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: bust through. How do you create longevity or have this

712
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: runway of now you're getting steady in coming all these

713
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: others our company, you gotta we gotta stay alive. I

714
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: think that's the beauty of it, right. I think the

715
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: first point is to your point, busting through it was

716
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: very very important for us to show the awareness and

717
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: show what we're capable of. Like we don't ask people

718
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: were like, hey, where this you should go support? It's like, no,

719
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: go play the game when you can't try it where

720
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: you can you can try it the demos and stores

721
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: or wherever, and if it's dope and you like it,

722
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: tell people about it. And that's how we've grown. Like

723
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: when we first launched the game, it was a slow

724
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: trickle and the curve was kind of under low, and

725
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: it started to pick up. And that's a great thing

726
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: for us because that means it's grassroots. That means people

727
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: are talking about it means more and more people are

728
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: finding it and communicating and we just gotta stay on

729
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: that trajectory. And that's how you guys help try it.

730
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: And when you're like, yo, this feels exactly like it

731
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: does when I was in the stadium in New Orleans

732
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: or in Chicago, say that, because then fans are like, Yo,

733
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: if Peanut and Roman think that, then I need to

734
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: get in there and check it out, you know. So,

735
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: so y'all must have a mouthpiece, right, Like meaning when

736
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: I say mouth piece, something like, you know how to

737
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: talk to people, you know how to sell stuff, right,

738
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: So you gotta have them there since I know, startups

739
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: or or it takes a lot to convince someone to

740
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: give you millions, thousands whatever that money is where the

741
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: number is. So you got lebron Naomi Osaka, who's I

742
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: know he's an investor, Like what what is that like?

743
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: To have those influencers b yeah, A three big names

744
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Like what is that like? Yeah? I think for us

745
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: it was about just getting people that understood what we

746
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: were trying to execute the vision that we had and

747
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: getting them to buy in. Right. So for us, it

748
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we can get the staff from a drake,

749
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: from a man, from a Lebron from a Naomi. They're

750
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: the best at what they do and if they see

751
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: our vision that we it was validation that we were

752
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: on the right track and we're doing something that we

753
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: think consumers want, right, because all of them in some

754
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: way impacts they. You know, Drake sells his music, Lebron's

755
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: obviously is Lebron, So how can we impact the sports

756
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: fan and people who want to feel what it's like

757
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: to experience with only one percent of people in the world, dude, Right,

758
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: So for them to back is it was just kind

759
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, we're on the right track, We're headed

760
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Was it important that they were

761
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: fans of football? I think so. I think yeah, because

762
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean this is where we're starting and they are

763
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: all football fans, um. I think that was important for

764
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: them to come on with us. To Troy's point, the

765
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: other thing that is really dope is I think I

766
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: mean we have investors that are those who name Nao, Me, Drake, Lebron.

767
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: We also have owners of NFL teams, we have leagues involved,

768
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: we got some of the biggest VC firms. And to

769
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: your back to your point about authenticity, I think they

770
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: feel that you know what I mean. And I think

771
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: we have the ability to talk to the Lamars and

772
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: the owners of NFL teams and they both completely understand

773
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: and get division because of the way we painted and

774
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: they see their part in it. And so when we

775
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: were talking to all those people, we didn't try to oversell.

776
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: We actually the opposite. We underseil and over delivered. That's

777
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: our motto, you know. And so I think over time

778
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: people understand the kind of work that we put in

779
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: and if they see the way that we're on this

780
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: seven up early, going to sleep late, and they're like, yeah,

781
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: there was a people I want to take a chance

782
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: on because I know if if the worst case happening,

783
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, it's not going to be because they

784
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: ain't working hard. They're not you know, drilled in on

785
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: the strategy in the gas. Yeah. Well look, man, I

786
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: want to say thank you guys for coming out here,

787
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for telling us more about Status quo, sharing us

788
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: with our listeners. I gotta play the game. I do too,

789
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: and I have as I got the first version, Yeah,

790
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: I got the black version, second ones like the white,

791
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: the white, I got era. You gotta do all right,

792
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm with it. Thank you guys may appreciate you, Thank you,

793
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: thank you. Keep crushing the fellows. You guys are inspiring

794
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: seriously than likewise appreciate it alright, pe Nut, I thought

795
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: that was great. Number one. I thought Brandon Marshall was

796
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: very vulnerable, and I always tell people vulnerability is strength,

797
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: especially when you open up and you share those thoughts

798
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: and emotions. I thought he was beautiful the way he

799
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: apologized to you, talk to you about being the teammate,

800
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: where he lacked that in life and uh and his

801
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: whole wellness, uh, goals and opportunities what he's trying to

802
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: do now is really beautiful. And also with Andrew Hawkins

803
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: and Troy Jones, I mean, these guys are too bright,

804
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: sharp guys for them to step out there and yeah,

805
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: I can't. It takes so much faith and confidence to

806
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: be entrepreneur. I don't have those aspirations. I don't either,

807
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: nor am I. I don't think I'm brave enough to

808
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not brave enough to do it because

809
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: I haven't found the thing that I would want to

810
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur in. I think if it were something

811
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: that you wanted to do, say fashion sneakers, something like that, you,

812
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: you might change your attitude as far as how much

813
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: or how passionate you would be about that. The thing

814
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: that I appreciated about Brandon was his authenticity. Like, um,

815
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: we had a moment, like I received it. I thought

816
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: we were on bad terms. Now I shouldn't say bad

817
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: you know what. You're not always great at taking compliments either,

818
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: So it was a it was a really unique moment

819
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: for me to witness it. Well, I'm just I feel

820
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: like I'm like humble, and I try to just like no, no,

821
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, I just I try to, but yeah, you're right.

822
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: But I really appreciated his authenticity. And I thought when

823
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: he loved Chicago, we weren't like on the best of terms,

824
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: but we didn't hate each other. So for him to

825
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: say those things, I was like, oh, man, okay, yeah,

826
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate that I received that. As far as you

827
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: know Andrew and Troy, I I appreciate what they're doing

828
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: and I love that they are stepping out into the

829
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: tech world where it's probably a field that they're with

830
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: other people that don't look like them, you know too,

831
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: young African American males, and their their Troy place, and

832
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: they're doing some good things. And I'm I'm wanting nothing

833
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: but success for those two gentle Medish and Brandon as

834
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: well in their in their business. Man. I think another

835
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: cool thing about Troy and and Hawkins is uh Hawker

836
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: Andrew sorry, I used to play in football. Name is

837
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: that is that Uh not only are they new to

838
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: but they're so new to this space like this is

839
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: not something they grew up doing. This isn't something they

840
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: studied in college, but still finding this niche market that like,

841
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: you know what, we can we see a disruption happening here,

842
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: and that is something that's so necessary when you're early

843
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: stage entrepreneur guy and you dive in there and from

844
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: them all of a sudden breakthrough, having their first breakthrough

845
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: and having some of these meetings with these high level

846
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: UH influencers and big money people, and it's a shout

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