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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's me Your Man, MG Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grant alongside the Fantasy Hall of Famer Michael Fabriano and

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy viper Grand Barfield. Bab's Welcome back, man, It's

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Speaker 1: good to see you. If uh, if the virus that

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Speaker 1: it was sounds like pain. It was brutal mounds like

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Speaker 1: It was one of those. It was brutal. Man well,

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Speaker 1: Matthew got sick. So but yeah, I'm back. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. It's nice to be back among

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Speaker 1: the living. Yeah. So, uh, we got plenty of talk

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Speaker 1: about on today's show, some news and those we'll get through. Um.

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Speaker 1: The big one though, well debate Eli Manning, because I

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Speaker 1: mean why not. Um. Also, since Fab is back, he

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Speaker 1: just recently put out his top two hundred for Dynasty Leagues. Um,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get through some of that as well. Just

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Speaker 1: you know, after perusing through it, some questions I had

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Speaker 1: and we're going to force you to account for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Sounds good and what you did with your list. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Plus some thoughts just on on Kobe Bryant because that

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Speaker 1: of course, we'll go behind the glass talk to our

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Speaker 1: faithful producer, Senior Edward L. Murphy Esquire Murph, what's up?

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Speaker 1: First of all, just like could say, obviously Fabs, great

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Speaker 1: to see you back here. And guys, now we are

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Speaker 1: in super Bowl week, which is crazy. It flew by

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Speaker 1: so fast, right, The best thing about this week at

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Speaker 1: least for me and Marcus. You will not agree with this,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure you're very nervous because you're you're Niners

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Speaker 1: are playing. But for me, no Eagles, no Patriots, no

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Speaker 1: Bible Chiefs win. Great great story from Mahomes in the

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Speaker 1: It's the Jimmy g Trade. Great defense, you know, Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: sit back, relax, enjoy either winner. There's no pressure and

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Speaker 1: It's a great feeling to be in the serial a week.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you this at least as of

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Speaker 1: some news. We will start in New Orleans. Mickey Loomis,

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Speaker 1: They want Drew Brees to come back next season as

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. Look, it was a very good year for Breeze,

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Speaker 1: a few a few stats out you here. Fitzpatrick opens

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Speaker 1: He really does. I mean, it's it's that's why he

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Speaker 1: about the rest of the guys around him in that ring.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he just turned thirty six.

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Speaker 1: He averaged seventeen points of gaming. He was the QB

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Speaker 1: sixteen UH in points per game among quarterbacks, and I

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Speaker 1: mean Graham said it game manager like, I mean nine,

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Speaker 1: nine might even be too high. It might be right.

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a surprise. I was like,

430
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Speaker 1: I felt like that was it might even be a

431
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: little bit too high, um for Rogers. But he's, yeah,

432
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Speaker 1: he's coming off a bad season and you know, the

433
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna ever come back to

434
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Speaker 1: being an elite fantasy quarterback. But the guys that I

435
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Speaker 1: have ranked behind him, there could be end up being

436
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Speaker 1: some movement as we go through the uh the off season.

437
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Speaker 1: But I felt like nine was fair for Rogers at

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Speaker 1: this point. All right, Uh the other one Baker at ten,

439
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Speaker 1: Jamis at eleven. Are we are we hoping for a Baker?

440
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Speaker 1: I mean he's twenty four. Winston's Winston hast picks in

441
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Speaker 1: his last twenty seven games, and I feel like, I

442
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Speaker 1: feel like Winston, you know, is another three or four

443
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Speaker 1: interceptions away from being a backup somewhere in the league.

444
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: We don't even know where he's gonna play. I mean,

445
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Speaker 1: would anybody be surprised if Winston started this season as

446
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Speaker 1: the as the number one guy somewhere in four games

447
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Speaker 1: into the year back up, Like, I just feel like

448
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: Baker is younger. He had a crappy year. I get it.

449
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Speaker 1: You know, maybe things will be different under Stefanski. We'll

450
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Speaker 1: see what happens. But he's got a lot of talent

451
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Speaker 1: around him, and I guess I'm willing to give him

452
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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt and and feel like he

453
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Speaker 1: could maybe that was as bad as it's going to

454
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Speaker 1: get for Baker, right. I do wonder, though, you know,

455
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Speaker 1: with Stefanski and with the Browns, what they want to

456
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Speaker 1: do is obviously come out and established Nick Chubb and

457
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Speaker 1: give him carries. I do wonder if they're going to

458
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Speaker 1: just take a page out of the Vikings playbook from

459
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Speaker 1: last year and just really kind of make Baker Mayfield

460
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Speaker 1: sort of a game manager, run a ton of play action,

461
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Speaker 1: and have a ton of past attempts. I do want to.

462
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Speaker 1: I just I also felt like to Baker has more

463
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Speaker 1: job security and that I mean number one overall pick.

464
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Speaker 1: The Browns are not going to give up on him

465
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Speaker 1: anytime soon. They have nothing behind him he do whereas jamis.

466
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know where he's gonna be in.

467
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Speaker 1: Could end up back with Tampa Bay. We'll see what happens.

468
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Speaker 1: But I'd rather have Baker than Winston in Dynasty at

469
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Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, you know, it was interesting you mentioned

470
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Speaker 1: this the Fankle to there. You know, if if they

471
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Speaker 1: basically turned Baker Mayfield into Kirk Cousins, um you know

472
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Speaker 1: how that works out. I think Baker could be a

473
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Speaker 1: more accurate, slightly more mobile version of Kirk cut Kirk,

474
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Speaker 1: which could be good for fantasy real quick. Where would

475
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Speaker 1: you have Joe Burrow right now? Because I know you didn't, Yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: there are there are no rookies in this list. Yeah

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean he's certainly be he'd certainly be

478
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Speaker 1: at ahead of Aaron Rodgers, if you ahead of Drew Brees.

479
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously those are because of his age. Well,

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Speaker 1: I tell you, I gotta look at I gotta look

481
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Speaker 1: at the list right now, But I mean I think, yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: you would have him over Rodgers that QB nice, Oh,

483
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Speaker 1: no question about it. When I said Josh Allen Wentz Burrow,

484
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I like Josh Allen so much, all right,

485
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Speaker 1: I like Josh Allen a lot man Um and Carson

486
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Speaker 1: Wentz feels so overdue for a huge fantasy season that

487
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Speaker 1: that's kind of that that's the neighborhood he's going to

488
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Speaker 1: be in. We just need the stars he wins to

489
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Speaker 1: stay healthy, and we need his pieces around him to

490
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Speaker 1: stay healthy. For a city Eagles need a field stretcher,

491
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Speaker 1: and they need to call Rob I mean, DeShawn. I

492
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: don't know what his contracts on the top of my head,

493
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Speaker 1: but I mean still the guy who had a whole

494
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Speaker 1: heck of a lot of speed just couldn't stay healthy

495
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: this year. But that's where he'd end up being. Burrow

496
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Speaker 1: would be top ten, ahead of Rogers, ahead of Breeze,

497
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Speaker 1: you know those guys. Yeah, all right, Um, over to

498
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Speaker 1: the running backs. Uh, they're your top five again, not

499
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Speaker 1: really a lot of surprise, Um, Christian McCaffrey, sa Kwan Barkley, Ezekiel, Elliott,

500
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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook. Um. Is it injury that keeps

501
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Speaker 1: Dalvin out of the top three? Is it just the poticar? Yeah,

502
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Speaker 1: we'll look at the top three. I mean yeah, I

503
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Speaker 1: mean like that also, yeah, McCaffrey say, I wouldn't be

504
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Speaker 1: surprised to se Juan's uh the number one running back

505
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Speaker 1: and fantasy football when when all of a sudden done.

506
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Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke is just super durable and reliable and

507
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Speaker 1: he's gonna give you, you you know, twenty points a game

508
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: no matter what. And you know, the Copoys have McCarthy

509
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Speaker 1: now with Kellen Moore continuing to call the shots, and

510
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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna just lean on Zeke. They're gonna

511
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Speaker 1: continue to do that. Kimara and Cook. I feel like

512
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Speaker 1: they're very close in value. I went with Kimara just

513
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Speaker 1: because he's got a longer track record and because like

514
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Speaker 1: as as good as Dalvin Cook is, and I mean

515
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Speaker 1: five is pretty good. Every year he's gotten hurt, I mean,

516
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Speaker 1: you have nothing to laugh about every every year he's

517
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: gotten hurt. But the talent, the talent is clearly there,

518
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Speaker 1: and we saw that this past season where he could

519
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: end up being the top three, uh the running back,

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Speaker 1: Like without question? Uh yet Nick Chubb, as you're running

521
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Speaker 1: back six? Does that change? Does he move up? If

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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt isn't in Cleveland next year? It could, it

523
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Speaker 1: could potentially. I mean, when you look at the numbers,

524
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Speaker 1: and you know, we've talked about this in podcast too.

525
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Speaker 1: You know, the targets and the receptions go down, and

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is like the true featured back what we

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Speaker 1: saw in the games where he was the guy compared

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Speaker 1: to win Kareem Hunt. I mean it was there. There

529
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Speaker 1: was a pretty big difference there. The touchdowns weren't there

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Speaker 1: with Kareem Hunt as well. So and um, so he

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Speaker 1: could I could see myself moving him past Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 1: and potentially Alvin Kamara, but he wouldn't move into the

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Speaker 1: top three for me. Have an interesting call with Hunt

534
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Speaker 1: because he's a restricted free agent. They could bring him

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Speaker 1: back before the deadline passes. Uh, I don't. I don't

536
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Speaker 1: know if it will though. Well and then he and

537
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: then he got a little bit of trouble here recently too,

538
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Um, you know, looking at the numbers,

539
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Speaker 1: if you go to my I also posted my top

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Speaker 1: two interesting Fantasy facts from twenty nineteen. Uh, Chubb was

541
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Speaker 1: the RB eight um. He averaged six fewer fantasy points

542
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: and twenty fewer scrimmage yards per game uh with Kareem

543
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: Hunt there, and he also had just two touchdowns after

544
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Speaker 1: Hunt returned from that suspension. He had six before that,

545
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Speaker 1: So it's big man like Nick jubb Is is like hell,

546
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: he could end up being a top five overall pick

547
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: and redraft if Kareem Hunts no longer in the mix

548
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: there in Cleveland, that's a big question mark for fantasy fans. Yeah, uh,

549
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: no doubt. It's no no surprise. Obviously your your list

550
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: was very top heavy with running backs. Um, not really

551
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: a shock there. And I think you know, do we

552
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: believe they are going to be more workhorse backs? I mean,

553
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: you know the guys always the top, right, McCaffrey, Barkley, Zeke, Kamara, Cook,

554
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: These are all guys who you know are going to

555
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: get the ball a ton. I know Josh Jacobs was

556
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: sort of near the top of that list as well. Um,

557
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. It's just me hoping, being hopeful, wishful,

558
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: thinking that we're gonna get more workhorse back since when

559
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 1: it could end up being that way though, because if

560
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: you think about it, so we're hoping. I mean, the

561
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Chargers are not keeping Melvin Gordon, right, so say Gordon

562
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: ends up with the Bucks for example, right, I mean

563
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: featured back, so that Tampa Bay goes from having a

564
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: confusing backfield committee too, probably a featured back there, and

565
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: that also opens up the featured role in in Los

566
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: Angeles for for Austin Ekeler. Right, so that could be,

567
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: uh that that could be one of the you know,

568
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: one of the moves that that is made during the

569
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Speaker 1: off season. And if Nick Chubb is the guy in

570
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: Cleveland and Kareem Hunt goes somewhere else, I mean, boy,

571
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: then you've got to potentially top ten fantasy running back.

572
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: So you're right, uh, And then with some of the

573
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Speaker 1: guys coming uh coming in the class of that we're

574
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna see here with the young kids starting off with

575
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: the uh saw Senior Bowl, NFL Combine coming up, clearly,

576
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be here before you know it. So it

577
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Speaker 1: could be it could be a very a much deeper class,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a much deeper position, and it could be

579
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: an easier position to navigate in terms of these backfield situations. Yeah.

580
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: I do like where you have Ekeler. You got him

581
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: in your top twenty four, that's the that's the right

582
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: spot for him. Ya. Even if he's not back in

583
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: l A. Somebody's gonna pay him big money and give

584
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: him a maybe not a work horse world, at least

585
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: like a lot. I. I was going back and forth

586
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: between him and Jacob's uh, Josh Jacobs, who obviously showed

587
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: that he could end he could end up being a

588
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: real fantasy ascid for years and years to come. But

589
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, age is what kept Jacobs ahead of Eckler.

590
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: But Eckler could be a stud man. Like if you

591
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Speaker 1: looked at and and I, And this is another thing

592
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Speaker 1: that I posted in my in my stats. I'm gonna

593
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Speaker 1: look this up real quick. But if you if you

594
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Speaker 1: looked at what Eckler had done before Gordon came back,

595
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Speaker 1: he averaged almost twenty seven fantasy points per game. If now,

596
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: obviously I don't know that he's going to do that

597
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: over a full sixteen games, but let's just go pie

598
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: in the sky. That's fo fantasy points. That would have

599
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: been the six most Fantasy point scored by any player

600
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: in NFL history. So he's got it in him, right,

601
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: He's got it in him. Wow? Um alright. Wide receivers

602
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: your top five Michael Thomas, DeAndre Hopkins, Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill,

603
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, Michael Thomas Number four overall, he's the first

604
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: non running back that you have in your rankings. There

605
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about Drew Brees and and

606
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Speaker 1: him possibly coming back for no official decision made at

607
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: this point. If he does retired, does does Thomas move?

608
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: Does he moved a lot a little? He was still

609
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: pretty good with Bridgewater. Man, I don't know that he'd move,

610
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: and if he did, it wouldn't be more than a

611
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: spot or two down, you know, maybe below Nuke and DeVante.

612
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: But he's he's a star, and I mean, it's not

613
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: like the Saints would be going from Drew Brees to

614
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, case Keenum right Cheddi Bridgewater

615
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: showing that he's he could be a pretty damn good

616
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football League, And when he was

617
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Speaker 1: the guy, he was still peppering Thomas with targets. I

618
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: think Michael Thomas has proven that he's sort of like

619
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins in the sinceities quarterback proof, Like I know,

620
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Speaker 1: it's to get Hopkins with the only the only player

621
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Speaker 1: in NFL history who has ever stopped new Capkins is

622
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Speaker 1: Broadcast Wilder exactly. But everybody else he's been fine. One

623
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Speaker 1: of my favorite headlines of all time after a game

624
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Speaker 1: was I can't remember who wrote it. I think it

625
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Speaker 1: was Houston Chronicle that was bad bo stinks up? Wow, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was after a particularly bad He got a lot

627
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Speaker 1: of money that he did money, but I paid a

628
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Speaker 1: lot of scratch sucking man. Yeah. I should have learned

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Speaker 1: to be tall and had a very strong arm. That right,

630
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Speaker 1: I should have learned. I should have learned that. Man,

631
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: somebody steered me wrong. Uh your wide receiver six one?

632
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: I know, I look, I do. I'm just I'm just curious, right,

633
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Speaker 1: Smith Schuster wide receiver six overall. I would assume a

634
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: lot of this is because you're expecting Ben Roethlisberger to

635
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: be back at the quarterback. I mean it partially is

636
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: he's twenty two, you know, years old, three years old.

637
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: He's very guy and you know I this season, listen,

638
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: not one thing went right for that Steelers office. Nothing nothing.

639
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger got hurt, Mason Rudolph was awful, and then Duck

640
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: Hodges was. It was a fun story, but let's be honest, guys.

641
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: I Duck Hodges, he's not He's not a starting quarters

642
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: football league I'm sorry. So it doesn't it doesn't help

643
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: that was banked up all year long, right, he was hurt,

644
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: he played twelve games. I'm going to give him the

645
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, much like more than Baker. I mean,

646
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Baker is more age, and I feel like he has

647
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: more job security. But I mean, Juju is still going

648
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: to be the number one guy in offense that we

649
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: presume will be led by Ben Roethlisberger, who's still gonna

650
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: be able to throw that ball, that football around And

651
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: unless the Steeler's offense just you know, has the worst

652
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: luck in the world again, things should be better in

653
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in with Roethlisberger at the helm. And I mean,

654
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: is a young guy duty and he's a talented guy.

655
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: And and that's why I have him ranked so highly

656
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: here because I feel like you're still going to get,

657
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, seasons and seasons and seasons to come of

658
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: pretty good production. And I would think that the Steelers

659
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: now know that they don't have the quarterback of the

660
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: future on their roster and they're gonna end up having

661
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: to make some sort of move here, uh to to

662
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: get that quarterback on that roster in the next year

663
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: or two. So yeah, I would think that you know,

664
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: they're they're going to make a move. I mean, I

665
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: know Ben says he wants to come back, but even

666
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: if he does, Josh Rosen, jos on Um, but the

667
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Steelers do realize that they've got to make a decision

668
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: very soon about their quarterback position because even if Roethlisberger

669
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: comes back next year, his his days are are sort

670
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: of limited in the NFL. Um all right, tight ends

671
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: Top five George Kid, Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews of An Ingram,

672
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper first question, Kittle over Kelsey. Huh. I mean,

673
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I don't hate it at all.

674
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's an age thing. Uh. I mean

675
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Kittle is Kittle is what four years younger than Kelsey,

676
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: and I feel, you know, like I still talked about

677
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: it in the preseason. I said I thought that kittle

678
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: numbers could regress a little bit. They did. I mean,

679
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: his touchdowns weren't great and he had fewer yards, but

680
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: he also got hurt. But the one thing that I

681
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: feel like George Kittle proved is that he was not

682
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: a fluke inen. He is a good player, an elite

683
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: player at that position, and I'd rather have him than Kelsey.

684
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: At this point. Why four years younger and he is.

685
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: He is that offensive centerpiece for San Francisco, like their

686
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: backfield is an office headache for fantasy owners. And I

687
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: think Deebo Samuel is going to take the next step

688
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: next year. He could end up being you know, we

689
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: talked about the wide receivers in their second year sort

690
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: of bust. Debo could be that guy in But I

691
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: really do feel like Kittle is the best dynasty tight

692
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: end right now in Fantasy one percent. I mean, Kittle

693
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: is going to probably rip off at least four or

694
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: five straight top three seasons, and a few of those

695
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: will be top top one or two. Uh yeah, I

696
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: mean still this year five catches over a thousand yards.

697
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: You're right. The touchdowns only only five this year? I

698
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: say only, but when he started the year really slow too,

699
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: because I have three touchdowns called back due to penalty.

700
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: I think in a month of the season, his his

701
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: fantasy numbers could have looked a lot different have those

702
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns not gone away. So uh and you're right, he

703
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: is he is the centerpiece of the offense. Um you

704
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: know there say he's sort of he's sort of become

705
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: the face of the team. I think I know Jimmy

706
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: Garoppolo quarterbacks always get that love, but I think I

707
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 1: think George Kittle sort of more embodies what that forty

708
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: team is, like the heartbeat of that team, because he's

709
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's a fun loving guy's always out there

710
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: having fun. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean you could

711
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: you can argue that he's the face of the franchise

712
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: more than Garoppolo is. Yeah. Uh so, I know, I

713
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: know you would never draft him here, But in redraft leagues,

714
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: do you see him going off the board in the

715
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: first round and in first early second I could see

716
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: maybe late second round that's where I think he'll go. Okay, yeah,

717
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: I think that's where he's gonna end up going. Marcus

718
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: knows me. I'm not too I mean, like I said,

719
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: I know you're doing there. I'm just curious where you know,

720
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: where people are gonna start to reach for him. Uh,

721
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: You've got zach Ertz is tight in six. Yeah, out

722
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: of the top five. You got Austin who just ahead

723
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: of him, right again, Age urges twenty nine. He saw

724
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: decreases in targets, in catches and yards, touchdowns, and fantasy points.

725
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: In Dallas, yadder just started you know, creep up. He's

726
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: getting more opportunities, and I think he's only going to

727
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: continue to get more opportunities. Uh. In fact, I think

728
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: if you can sell high on zach Ertz and Dynasty

729
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: right now might not be a bad move. I'm with

730
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: you on that. I actually think Dallas Goddard's better than

731
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: zach Ertz. I think he provides more after the catch.

732
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz does not play on the line of scrimmage.

733
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: He's typically flexed out god Or can play on the

734
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I think the Eagles are going to

735
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: get god Heard a big role this coming year. And

736
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: we all know that Eagles are going to be out

737
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: looking for new pass catchers and zach Ertzs targets are

738
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: own are gonna go down. I wanted the Cotto wish

739
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: to get Goddard so bad in that draft, but they

740
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: almost did. I know, almost did. Perfect. We've been great

741
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: in that offen. Yeah. The other part of it too

742
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: is and I don't remember who's who posted this, but

743
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, somebody had a chart of all the different

744
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: personnel groupings that each team uses, and nobody uses twelve personnel.

745
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: Nobody goes to tight ends more than the Eagles. That

746
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: means Goddard is going to be on the field a lot,

747
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot next year as well. Um a a tweet

748
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: that we actually all got um from James Jansen, and

749
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: I felt I felt like it's sort of was fitting

750
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: with this conversation since we were talking about the dynasty leagues.

751
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: He actually asked if we would talk a little bit

752
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: about keeper league. It's, you know, sort of different but

753
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: kind of the same. He Um said, he's I think

754
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: looking to start one, and I kind of wanted to

755
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: get our thoughts and some advice about trying to get

756
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: a keeper league together, anything he should or should not do.

757
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't if you guys have any any thoughts or

758
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: any quick tips, uh for folks who were interested in,

759
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, doing something more than just a redraft league

760
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: this season. Sure, I think if you're going to start

761
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: a keeper league, first thing you need to do is

762
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: determined like how long you can actually keep the players,

763
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, if you have like a

764
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: keeper league where you get to keep your let's say

765
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: top three players every year, there should be some sort

766
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: of cliff where you can keep them for like three

767
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: to four years. You shouldn't be able to keep them

768
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: for the one forever, the lifetime of their of their

769
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: their playing Um, I don't know. I always have a

770
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: problem with that though at the same time, because you

771
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: could slam dunk of a value like Lamar Jackson the

772
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: ninth or tenth round and you would want to hold

773
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: onto that guy. Another way to get around that is

774
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: just to have like an escalating round. So like if

775
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: you draft Lamar Jackson in the ninth round the following year,

776
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: you would have to give up your eighth round pick

777
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: to keep him. I think that's another fun way to

778
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: play keeper, is you know you could maybe instead of

779
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: having you know, the windows where you can only keep

780
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: players for a couple of years, you can have, you know,

781
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: some sort of sliding value where you have to give

782
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: up in a future pick keep that player. Uh. I

783
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: mean I was in a keeper league for years and

784
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: years and years where we had a rule where basically

785
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: it didn't matter where you drafted the guy, like anybody

786
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: who was drafted outside of the fourth round, even if

787
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: you picked him up off the waiver wire, if you

788
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: kept him, he was going to cost you a fourth

789
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: round pick. So so the first and second and third

790
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: rounders were gonna cost you exactly that, and anybody passed

791
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: that was going to cost you a fourth rounder. So

792
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: it made made it a little bit of a different

793
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: strategy like that, you know, if if Lamar, if you

794
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: got Lamar Jackson in the you know, tenth rounds and

795
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: suddenly he's gonna cost you a fourth round pick, I mean,

796
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: you're STI probably gonna keep him, but it's not as

797
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: easy as saying, oh, you know, you know, eighth, ninth,

798
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: tenth round pick Lamar Jackson. He's a you know, he's

799
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: he's locked and loaded. And I also like the situation

800
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: that you had mentioned with like sort of contracts. Now

801
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't, you can't. In our league, it

802
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: was three years, so basically you could try to draft

803
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: the guy again, but he had to go back into

804
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: the pool after after, you know, in that in that

805
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: fourth year, hear to go back in the pool. Yeah,

806
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: contract leagues are a lot of fun. I played in

807
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: a contract league for a long time and if fun

808
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: unfortunately fell apart. But it was the same thing, like

809
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: we it was literally just NFL style cap space. You

810
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: had so much cap space you could spend on certain

811
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: players and max contractors three years and and Larry Fitzgerald

812
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: was always worth of when you know, it's funny. I

813
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I played any league where every anyone drafted after the

814
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: ninth round was keeper eligible, which sort of made it

815
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: interesting when you got to those middle rounds about like,

816
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, guys that you thought were potential sleepers, and

817
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: it's like, well, do I do I take the chance

818
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: and wait around or so on this guy to make

819
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: him keep eligible, or do I go out and draft

820
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: him thinking that he might not be on the board

821
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: for me after the ninth round. And so you know,

822
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: those eighth ninth round picks got really kind of tense

823
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: a little bit with guys coming off the board. But

824
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, if you look, if you landed Lamar Jackson

825
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: in the eleventh round, you felt great because you did.

826
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: You you would also you know, you'd lose your you know,

827
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: tenth eleventh round pick, whatever round it was, um, but

828
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: you did get to keep him, and you got you

829
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: got yourself a sleeper. So I thought that that was

830
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: a kind of an interesting way to go about it

831
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: as well. So uh there, yeah, it's a fun. Man.

832
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: It's also like you also have to determine how many

833
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: players you can keep, how many keep right so that

834
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: and and that's why, like when we get keeper league questions,

835
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: it's like really hard unless you're very specific. I think

836
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: that I think most keeper leagues are like three to

837
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: five right, Yes, definitely what is yeah? Yeah, So there

838
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: you go, James. Hopefully that helps enjoy if you do

839
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: get your keeper league started up, definitely enjoy. And by

840
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: the way, if you guys have questions during the off season,

841
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: we are certainly glad to get them. We will you know,

842
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: try to get to as many of them as we can,

843
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: especially because it is slower now. So if you've got

844
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, I guess procedural questions, if you will, or

845
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: things like that, we're definitely down to talk about it. Um,

846
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: I want to end the show. Uh. Look, unless you

847
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: have you know, there was no way to avoid it. Yesterday. Uh,

848
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: if you were near a television, a radio, a a

849
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: phone with the internet, UM, you heard about the death

850
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: of Kobe Bryant Um died. He along with his utter

851
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: thirteen year old daughter g G and seven other people

852
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: died in a helicopter crash just outside of Los Angeles

853
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. Um. Obviously it's not a football story,

854
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: but it is big enough that it has kind of

855
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: consumed everything and everyone, I think for the last twenty

856
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: four hours and probably beyond. Uh, you know, it was

857
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: I was talking with one of my my best friends

858
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: last night about it, and we were both just sort

859
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: of trying to figure trying to wrap our heads around

860
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: this thing, right because because I don't we couldn't think

861
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: of another situation where you had an athlete, um still

862
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: so young, uh, you know, not far removed from you know,

863
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: a a literally Hall of Fame, all time great playing

864
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: career who just died so suddenly. I mean, we we

865
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: had athletes die. We've had athletes die young. Um, you know,

866
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: a guy like Dale Earnhardt died at the dayton of

867
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: five hundred. But I mean most of the time we

868
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: came up with it, it was it was athletes who

869
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: may be had sort of regional appeal or appeal within

870
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: their sports. You know, Pat Tillman was a guy who

871
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: was well known within football circles, but didn't necessarily have

872
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: the broad appeal. Um, we couldn't think of anything on

873
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: this level. The closest thing we could come up with

874
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: was Magic Johnson announcing he had HIV. UM. I mean,

875
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: this just I don't know I feel like, guys, this

876
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those like you'll remember where

877
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: you were when you figured out the news that Kobe

878
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: brownt I will, dude. I mean I actually had I

879
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: had gotten a text from a friend of mine and

880
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: he had he had sent something on Twitter and he

881
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: was like, is this true? Yeah, because knowing that I

882
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles and I was, I was walking

883
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: with my girlfriend Matthew and Kylo down uh down to

884
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach to have lunch, and so I had no

885
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: clue and I, oh, what's this And so of course

886
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: I go right to Twitter and everything's blowing up. I

887
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: texted some of my some of my friends, some of

888
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: whom like knew Kobe Bryant and he had casual relationships

889
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: with him, and you know, they're like, yeah, like there

890
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: was a helicopter crash there. There's I know, people who

891
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: live in that area where where the crash actually happened.

892
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: And then there was like a lot of there was

893
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: there was all kinds of just crazy reports going on

894
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: about who was on the helicopter and you know who

895
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: who the Obviously Kobe Bryant was one of my basketball heroes.

896
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up and and you can make

897
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: fun of me all you. I grew up on Connectic

898
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, but I was a Lakers fan. I was

899
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: a Lakers fan ever since the Finals against the Sixers

900
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: where Magic took over for Kareem who was injured in

901
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: Magic play center and he went nuts. And and I

902
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: just I fell in love with the Lakers because of

903
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson. And so you know, I remember where I

904
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: was when when the HIV announcement came out. But this

905
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: is worse because Kobe lost his life. And and what's

906
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: worse to me is that his daughter, thirteen years old,

907
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, also lost her life. Um in this in

908
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: this tragic in this tragic accident. And so it's gonna

909
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: be something that I'm gonna remember, not not only just

910
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: as a sportsmend, but I mean it's just as a

911
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: human being for the rest of my life, because it's

912
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: such it's such a tragedy, you know, when someone dies

913
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: so young. I mean, and and you know I have

914
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, I have Matthew, you know, you know Marcus,

915
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: you know as a dad, you at some point I'm

916
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: sure will be But the thing that just breaks my

917
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: heart is thinking that helicopter is going down and Kobe

918
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: knows it, and his daughter is right there, and here's

919
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: nothing he can do to stop what's going to happen.

920
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: And that is just the most heartbreaking part of this

921
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: whole thing, I think. I think, if anything, it's just

922
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: a reminder to try to always live in the moment.

923
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: I think, when you're with your loved ones or with

924
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: your friends, whoever it is. There's a lot of things

925
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: in life that are completely out of our control. You know,

926
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: as much as we think that we're in control, we're

927
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: really not. There's a lot of randomness that takes on

928
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: takes place around us, and um, you know, yesterday was

929
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: just a really good example of it. Um, I'm with you, though,

930
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up, I'm I mean, I'm gonna

931
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: age myself here, but I grew up watching Kobe like

932
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: all throughout the two thousands. I mean, he's one of

933
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: my definitely one of my idols. I think, UM went

934
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: to two in two thousand two. My dad took me

935
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: to Charlotte Hornet's Lakers game and Kobe played just like

936
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: absolutely that entire game. Didn't make a shot, but he

937
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: hit the game winner, and the whole arena just went

938
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: completely nuts. It was a fade away too from like

939
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: just impossible shot. He fell back on his honest but

940
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: made the shot. Um. Kobe had so many moments just

941
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, random Hornets regular season games. Obviously just a

942
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: one off, but it was like one of those moments

943
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: in your life where I'll never forget, Like you know,

944
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: he played terrible that entire game, but he persevered and

945
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: came back and wanted for his team. There's so many

946
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: moments in Kobe's grewer where he did something similar to that.

947
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: And I think you know, his just ultimate determination and

948
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: his ultimate competitiveness is what what will live on with

949
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: him is he was just the ultimate, the ultimate athlete.

950
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: And it's I still I'm still in shock. And if

951
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: we if we learn anything from this too, is that

952
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 1: just as human beings, is that like man, five minutes

953
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: from now is not guaranteed for any bloody So you know,

954
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: hug your loved ones, tell them that you love them. Uh,

955
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: someone who may be an adversary, Hey, you know, let's yeah,

956
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: let's smooth things over man, like I mean, because literally

957
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: not you know these every day is not is you know,

958
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: is it is a blessing that that you wake up

959
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: on you know, you just you just never know. Um

960
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: just it hurts you. I mean I grew up, you know,

961
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: following Kobe and the great teams with Shock and you

962
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: know those Shock, those Shack Kobe years. I mean yeah,

963
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: and that he's just a great player. You know, all

964
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: the like the arguments in the debates that you would have,

965
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: you know, who's better Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. You know,

966
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: he got to that level as a player. He was

967
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: he was that good. But I also think, you know,

968
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: those debates are futile. You know, it's it's just like Kobe,

969
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's fun fodder exactly at the same time,

970
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: like you know, m J, Kobe, Lebron, all of these

971
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: guys are legends. And what Kobe has left behind, the legacy,

972
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: is left behind his uh will forever endoor. Yeah, I

973
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: mean I don't know if you had any and he

974
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: thought you wanted to kind of jump in here with

975
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: uh yeah. Just I'm similar to Graham and that, like

976
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: I remember my first basketball hero, non Nick's hero was Jordan,

977
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: but Jordan was already playing obviously, I was born ninety two,

978
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: So Kobe was like the first guy that I was

979
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: like a cognitant enough where it's like I could grab

980
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: the remote and put on a basketball game. And so

981
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: I was in basketball was my first love. Is the

982
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: first where I played. It was the first job I

983
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: really had was in within the NBA. So I've always

984
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: had an attachment to the sport. And it just shows you,

985
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: like you know less. I was the Grammys and there

986
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: was a whole segment on on Kobe and every single

987
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: athlete across you know, whether it's soccer players over in

988
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Europe where it's NFL guys or NHL guy, everyone's doing

989
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: at tribute to Cobe. So he shows that he was

990
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: just loved across all platforms, whether it was in sport

991
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: or entertainment and U he was just a guy that

992
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: was just the best competitor. He was the icon of

993
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: at least this U our generation Graham and uh and

994
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: and think about all the great play the Lakers had

995
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: when you go back to the Elgin Baylor and Jerry

996
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: West and and he Kobe is probably the guy that

997
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: shines the brightest um, which is you know that speaks

998
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: by him. So it's something that's just obviously it's awful

999
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: for not only him, his daughter and then the other

1000
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: families and and little girls that were with them going

1001
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: to their basketball game, which is it's mesable to read.

1002
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: But um, you know, he was really one of the

1003
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: all time greats. And I saw somebody tweet like, you

1004
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: were not a great NBA player unless you were compared

1005
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: to Kobe Bryant. And I think that's like the best

1006
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: way to describe him. It's perfect. And I think you know,

1007
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: all the young players that are I mean, the NBA

1008
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: is just littered with so much young town. It's such

1009
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: a good time to be an NBA fan. But all

1010
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: of these guys were inspired by Kobe. Yeah, I mean,

1011
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: I think it's been amazing to mean, not only the

1012
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: obviously the NBA guys, but just as Eddie said, across sport,

1013
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean to see you know, Joe Burrow and Baker Mayfield,

1014
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: to see Nemar after he scores a goal, uh, you know,

1015
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: throw up the two four, um, has been amazing. I

1016
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: will say I really was trying with a lot of time,

1017
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure, like a lot of people, just trying to

1018
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: wrap my head around this whole thing. Um, I know,

1019
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: near the end of his basketball career is it was

1020
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: winding down one of the things I always said was

1021
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: always curious about was what would Kobe's life after basketball

1022
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: be like? Because watching him play and watching his career,

1023
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: it just seemed like he was so singularly focused on basketball,

1024
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: and I only just kind of wondered, like, would he

1025
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: be lost without the sport? What would he be like?

1026
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean I always kind of joked that he would

1027
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: be like the you know, bitter old guy that would

1028
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: show up to a Y m c A and just

1029
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: start dominating games or whatever. Um. And I think part

1030
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: of what has hit me so hard about this is

1031
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: seeing how he has really flourished after his basketball life

1032
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: and sort of I think understanding what what you know,

1033
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: the quote unquote Mamba mentality was. I think we've shorthanded

1034
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: it now to just to say shoot your shot, um.

1035
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like his post basketball life really was

1036
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: a lot like his game on the court. I mean, Graham,

1037
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: you talked about that game you saw him play where

1038
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: he didn't play well, but he he kept shooting. And

1039
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: if there was always a criticism of Cope's games that

1040
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: he met it, he never met a shot he didn't like,

1041
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: but he kept he kind of kept going the whole time.

1042
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: And I felt like after basketball. I mean, this is

1043
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: a guy who you know, he dabbled in music even

1044
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: during his career. I think he had a record label

1045
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: and he had a couple of rappers. But Kobe won

1046
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: an Oscar man. I mean, he he got into a production, television,

1047
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: movie production, He wrote the scripts for the commercials he

1048
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: was in. He really branched out with the idea of

1049
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: whatever he was going to do, he was going to

1050
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: learn how to be great at it. And you know,

1051
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: you talk about not having anything promised for you in

1052
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: terms of time and went tomorrow and anything like that. Um,

1053
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: and I think, to me, it's just a reminder of

1054
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you want to call it, have the

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Speaker 1: Momba mentality, shoot your shot, go do what it is,

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Speaker 1: do do that thing that you've always wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: because you know, you just don't know if that's going

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Speaker 1: to come around again at any point. Kobe is like

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Speaker 1: not definitely not the first athlete, but he's one of

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Speaker 1: the most. He's one of the athletes at the forefront

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Speaker 1: of putting hard work first over the glamour and fame.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the dude in they're playing the jazz game.

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Speaker 1: Five four straight air balls, four straight air balls, I

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Speaker 1: remember basically kick off his career. Um, and he came

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Speaker 1: back and and I mean I think that that moment

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Speaker 1: in that game and that limelight, that failure motivated him,

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Speaker 1: absolutely pushed him throughout his career. And I think I

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Speaker 1: think that's really the lasting memory of Kobe is just

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Speaker 1: that that hard work in your determination, what you put

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Speaker 1: into something is is what eventually you'll get out. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just look the the athlete, the man

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Speaker 1: that he was, you know, so varied and so wide

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Speaker 1: even in you know, look forty two years old, right,

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Speaker 1: he was forty one, in a relatively short time on

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Speaker 1: this earth, able to kind of do so much in

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Speaker 1: such so many people. Um, I don't think there's any

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Speaker 1: way we can income us it in our you know,

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Speaker 1: the ten minutes we have here, and uh you know

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Speaker 1: we will I'm sure see and read remembrances of him

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Speaker 1: for uh days and weeks to come. Um so uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, all our thoughts and prayers to to his family,

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Speaker 1: his his you know, friends, teammates, competitors, all the people

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Speaker 1: who knew him, certainly on a level that that most

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Speaker 1: of us were never going to get to. But just

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Speaker 1: a horrible horrible thing, and I think everybody, especially the

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Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles, um just still completely in shock

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Speaker 1: for it. So um, there you go. Uh that's it,

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Speaker 1: wrapping it up. We are done. We uh. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you downloading and listening as always, you know the drill.

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Speaker 1: Tell two friends to tell us your friends rate review

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Speaker 1: and remember love the people God gave you because one

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Speaker 1: day he's going to take him back. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Wow, I co cot and all well.