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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Hi, everybody, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Renee Stubs Tennis Podcast. We are coming to you live

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Speaker 1: from the Seaport in New York City, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by the one and only Andrea Pekovich.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I'm very glad to be here.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you who have met me in

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Speaker 1: You can buy another one, you know that, right. Actually,

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Speaker 1: in fact, Caitlin Tomplin Thompson, who normally does a podcast

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Speaker 1: if anyone smells it to you, all right, let's get

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Speaker 1: to more important things. Let's get to the US Open,

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Speaker 1: which is starting in two days, yes, Sunday, Sunday. How

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Speaker 1: do you feel about it starting on Sunday?

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Speaker 2: I feel good about it. I think the tennis as

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Speaker 1: We have to play through the week.

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Speaker 2: So I think the more we can play on the

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Speaker 2: weekends and for people who have actual jobs, not like

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Speaker 2: you and Mi Rena, to come out and watch the action,

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Speaker 2: I think that is important. So I do think if

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Speaker 2: we can get more matches on the weekends, I think

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Speaker 2: that's great for everybody, and for the kids who have

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Speaker 2: to go to school. Maybe I don't know how school

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you stole that from me because I said that

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Speaker 1: last night. I think it's great because Sunday you can

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Speaker 1: bring your kids, right, people have to work Monday Tuesday

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Speaker 1: So and so I like it, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: good and it does give players a little bit more

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Speaker 1: rest and we like that. All right, So let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. We're going to start with the men, just

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Speaker 1: because men, Okay, we prefer to talk about the women more,

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Speaker 1: but we do have a lot of great matches coming up,

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Speaker 1: and of course let's start with the Anix sinner because

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Speaker 1: I feel like he has a pretty good draw. We

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Speaker 1: know that he had a virus coming into the US Open.

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Speaker 1: We saw what happened in Cincinnati. We didn't get a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk about that, but those ten day events,

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Speaker 1: just real quick on that. What do you think of

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Speaker 1: the ten day events? Because I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: our listeners aren't so happy about those ten day events.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we just talked about the weekends and

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Speaker 2: how tennis is already in a difficult spot. We're having

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Speaker 2: to start on a Monday and Tuesday and playing from

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Speaker 2: eleven am to nine pm, and then to have voluntarily

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Speaker 2: Speaking about Montreal, Toronto and then Cincinnati. I think it's

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Speaker 2: just shooting your own self into the foot, and it's.

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Speaker 1: To the foot. How do you say it? In the foot?

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Speaker 1: In the foot? Okay, I am German? Still, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know it's okay. We like you anyway. You said something

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Speaker 1: funny yesterday about Zara, but I'm going to leave it

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Speaker 1: that it's terrible. I think it's shooting itself in this

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Speaker 1: when you get the most audience. Sunday, most people are

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Speaker 2: Just imagine if jan Nick Sinner has had not been sick,

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Speaker 2: French Open. Obviously in a best of three format, not

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Speaker 1: More importantly, Janick looks pretty good his draw, but he

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Speaker 2: I Janick Center in the semifinals of Cincinnati against Trance

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Speaker 2: Was so hell with like red dots around his eyes

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Speaker 2: that I said to Jesse right there, my boyfriend. I

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Speaker 2: That's why I bring up Boris Becker because he said

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Speaker 1: Out of his mouth yes, and put them in your mouth,

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Speaker 2: So I said it in the privacy of my home,

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Speaker 1: Also, you feel vindicated, is what you're saying. Kind of yep, Well,

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Speaker 1: Look at you coming with the scoop. I don't know

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Speaker 2: So I have a question to you about Ben Shelton.

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Speaker 2: Courts, no courts, courts, no matter how much Juan Carlos speaks.

433
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Speaker 2: Eighty percent of that gets just lost in the ether

434
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Speaker 2: a courd I was down there with headphones next to

435
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: the court. All the players were miked up, and I

436
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: could barely understand what they were saying because it's so noisy,

437
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 2: there are so many people, And so I do think

438
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Speaker 2: sometimes for coaches, you've coached the best players in the world,

439
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's a stressful situation. Also for the coach,

440
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Speaker 2: even though they might look very calm in the box,

441
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 2: they are stressed and sometimes the talking is just, you know,

442
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Speaker 2: like a way to also release some stress, even though

443
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Speaker 2: nothing comes to the player.

444
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Speaker 1: I can give you two examples of that. One was

445
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Speaker 1: when Sam Start I was playing the US Open doubles

446
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Speaker 1: final and I said to her she did something that

447
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Speaker 1: I would hope she would do. And I said, oh,

448
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: did you hear me yell out X and Y and

449
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 1: she goes, I can't hear shit. I didn't hear anything.

450
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 1: I was like, no, wonder you want you couldn't hear

451
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Speaker 1: what I was saying. Secondly, there's an interview that I

452
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Speaker 1: did with Madison Keys, and I said, you know, I said,

453
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Speaker 1: you want walked over and you're talking to your husband,

454
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Speaker 1: who's your coach, and he's telling you stuff. What did

455
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Speaker 1: he say to you that helped get you through that section?

456
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Speaker 1: You know, that part of the match. And she looked,

457
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Speaker 1: she looked at me and in the mic to the

458
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: world said, stubbsy, I can't hear shit down here. And

459
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, we can't bleep you. First

460
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: of all, it's live television, but you can't. You're right,

461
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: you cannot hear anything. The only thing that gets through

462
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Speaker 1: is if they literally come all the way over and

463
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Speaker 1: look at you and you can scream at them, which

464
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Speaker 1: is why you'll see them go over there and hand signals.

465
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Speaker 1: It is the one court that is impossible, as you

466
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Speaker 1: know now doing court psychometry there, you literally can't hear

467
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Speaker 1: anything unless you have noise canceling headphones in because the

468
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Speaker 1: ambient noise in Arthur Ash Stadium is just ridiculously loud.

469
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Speaker 1: So all right, I do want to touch upon Medvedev.

470
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Speaker 1: What is going on other than he's losing his mind

471
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Speaker 1: on every occasion. He's lost his confidence, he's not playing well.

472
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Speaker 1: Clearly one of the best hard core players that we've

473
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Speaker 1: seen over the last ten years, but he can't win

474
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Speaker 1: a match right now.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good question. I thought the longest time

476
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Speaker 2: thought it was his serf and not the way he's serving.

477
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Speaker 2: But I think because I heard him say a few

478
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Speaker 2: things in press conferences, I always thought he was having

479
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Speaker 2: troubles with either his lower back or his shoulder, because

480
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Speaker 2: he has sort of mentioned it, but he doesn't really

481
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Speaker 2: want to talk about it. And we had some stats

482
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Speaker 2: on Tennis Channel that has served dropped by ten miles

483
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Speaker 2: an hour on average compared to his best years, So

484
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Speaker 2: I did think that was part of it. But he

485
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Speaker 2: has picked it up again. I think he's serving a

486
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Speaker 2: bit better, but there are double faults in the most

487
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Speaker 2: important moments. He's going so big on second serves, which

488
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Speaker 2: he didn't used to do. Now he's going three hundred

489
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Speaker 2: miles an hour on second serve breakpoint. If he makes

490
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Speaker 2: it great, but if he doesn't, it's kind of over.

491
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Speaker 2: And I do think if you think back of Medvedev

492
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Speaker 2: when he won the US Open, he was always an

493
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Speaker 2: emotional guy, but he was sort of contained. You didn't

494
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Speaker 2: feel like he was on the verge of a break down.

495
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Speaker 2: You just felt like he had to release a little

496
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Speaker 2: bit of the tension that he feels on the inside.

497
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Speaker 2: Now you have the feeling if he does let it out,

498
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Speaker 2: he can't reel it back in.

499
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Speaker 1: And that's a problem because I have always felt that.

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Speaker 2: When you have an emotional outburst, it's really good if

501
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,239
Speaker 2: it's for a short period of time, because you get

502
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Speaker 2: on adrenaline going and you feel like a rush. It's

503
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: like having a first cup coffee on empty stomach. You're

504
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: just like, oh, And that's how it is when you

505
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Speaker 2: get an emotional outburst. It's like you on a regular basis, Yes,

506
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Speaker 2: that's when I want to run naked around green Point.

507
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: But then if you spiral, if you continue to stuffy

508
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: about emotion, that's when you see players just go bad,

509
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: worse and worse and worse. And that's what I've seen

510
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: with Medbedev. It's not short emotional outbursts, it's him not

511
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: reeling it back in after it.

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Speaker 1: I think also, I agree with you one hundred percent,

513
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Speaker 1: but like we'd like to do you and I, we'd

514
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Speaker 1: like to add layers. And I think the layer to

515
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Speaker 1: add on this with Medvedev is that I think he's

516
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Speaker 1: lost his confidence and so it's the bravado, it's maybe

517
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Speaker 1: the okay, you know, yeah, he can bring it back

518
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Speaker 1: or yeah, he's this good, but at some point it

519
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Speaker 1: affects you, and I think it's affecting him. It's kind

520
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Speaker 1: of like what we're seeing with Coco with the serve,

521
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Speaker 1: and we're going to get to that because that was

522
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Speaker 1: a new rink all we've seen over the last few

523
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Speaker 1: days with a new coach. But I think at some

524
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Speaker 1: point he's lost confidence and so I don't care. And

525
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Speaker 1: his game is predicated on not making mistakes and he does.

526
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Speaker 1: It's not like he can hit a lot of top

527
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Speaker 1: spin on the ball. His game is flat, barely over

528
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Speaker 1: the net, super deep into the court and so origins. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: and he's supposed to be solid and he's not any

530
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Speaker 1: of those right now, double fi all the things. So listen,

531
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Speaker 1: I love him. I know he's p curial, I know

532
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: he's out there. I know he's crazy, but he's fun

533
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: to watch. He's entertaining. So I kind of hope that

534
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: he can push through his toe.

535
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Speaker 2: But he has a tough one because he's playing again.

536
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: Benjamin Bonzie, the French guy who beat him in Wimbledon,

537
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Speaker 2: and then MEDRIDV of course, said afterwards, if he played

538
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Speaker 2: like this every day, he would be top ten in

539
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Speaker 2: the world. Well, Bonzi is not top ten in the world,

540
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: he's not even seated, but he is playing Media dev

541
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Speaker 2: again in the first round. So I wonder maybe that

542
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Speaker 2: can be You know, sometimes when you lose your confidence

543
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: but you continue the work, one match can tip it

544
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: over for you. If you lose confidence and use quits

545
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: to work because you're like, oh, it doesn't bring anything,

546
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: it's not getting better. That's when you're in trouble, because

547
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: that's when the intensity drops and then you become worse

548
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Speaker 2: as a tennis.

549
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Speaker 1: Well, I've seen him. I've seen him on the practice

550
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: court over the last couple of days, and believe me,

551
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: he's working his time. I believe that. Yes, one match

552
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Speaker 1: for all of you tennis fans out there that love

553
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: to watch drama, Oh my god, Jordan Thompson against our

554
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: friend quaranteene Moute. If you want to see drama and

555
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: you want to see two complete mental maniacs, this is

556
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: the match for you.

557
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: Okay, to play Manarino or Greekspoor in the second round. Yeah,

558
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 2: so just just lock that section down and watch everything.

559
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Speaker 1: You know it'll be on an outside court somewhere And

560
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: I know you guys, you know some people are complaining

561
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: of the price of tickets and all this sort of

562
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Speaker 1: stuff that will be and hopefully it's on like Caught

563
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Speaker 1: four or five, where there's all that drama that happens.

564
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Speaker 1: If you want to go watch anywhere at the US Open.

565
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Speaker 1: First of all, grand stand is fantastic because you can

566
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: get in there and watch anyone. But it's big. Go

567
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: and sit on the bleachers. Wear a hat because you're

568
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of sun. I hope the USTA

569
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Speaker 1: figures out a way to cover the people.

570
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Speaker 2: The spectators also metal metal metal bands in like seven

571
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Speaker 2: thousand degree weathers.

572
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Speaker 1: Thankfully not to be that hot, but it is going

573
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: to be sunny. So get a hat, get your sunscreen.

574
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: Go and watch Jordan Thompson and Mute. I promise you.

575
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Speaker 1: I promise you it'll be five sets and it will

576
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Speaker 1: be dramatic. And if it's not five sets, it'll be

577
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: three sets for Jordan Thompson and Mute will figure out

578
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: a way. Just a tank because that is to me

579
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: that no. Caitlin Thompson is saying no, no because she loves Mute.

580
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Speaker 2: I also think Mote. I think Mate just sucks the

581
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: soul out of your buddy, and play tennis without your soul.

582
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Speaker 1: That's just how it is. Well, I promise you that

583
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: will be one of the best matches in the first round.

584
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Speaker 1: So go and find that, and.

585
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: Rene and I will be there, and Caitlyn too if

586
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: she doesn't have to work off.

587
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Well, I will be there because I don't leave anywhere.

588
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: And if I have one friend text me when they

589
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: come to the US Open and say, hey, I'm coming

590
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: to the US Open. Are you here, I'm like, I

591
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: don't leave here. I'm like a tombstone out there for

592
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: two weeks. Okay, so let's get to.

593
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: Either a tube or a tomb a tomb oh stone

594
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, reed, yeah, rap renee Very, we loved.

595
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: You very much, Unshine. Okay, let's get to the ladies.

596
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Speaker 2: Let's get to the real tennis.

597
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Speaker 1: Hey, can I tell you I've been watching Arena Sabalanca

598
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Speaker 1: practice over the last couple of days. Yeah, and we've

599
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: talked about this, the matches she is losing and the

600
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: way she's playing over the last couple of weeks. She

601
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: doesn't miss by like a foot right, she misses in

602
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: the bottom of the net or in the fence. I've

603
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: never seen such a great player her margins for missing

604
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: are gigantic, you know, and like Serena would miss, it

605
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: would just be like a foot outside the line or

606
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: you know the great we're talking the greats, right, the

607
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: number one is even eager sometimes eager. The ball flies,

608
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: but it's rare. Sablenka in practice over the last couple days,

609
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: and I went and watched her indoors roof, closed Arthur

610
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Ash Stadium, no variables, no sun. She'd have a mid

611
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: court foehand twenty feet long like that. That's so weird, right,

612
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you can't. It's like she doesn't

613
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: feel the ball, but when she's hitting it amazing. Then

614
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: she can play six points where you're like where that

615
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: come from? Portchill Ace, you like three times in a

616
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: tie break. But the it's the ups and downs for

617
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: me with Sablenka that must as a coach, I would

618
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: be like absolutely, my sphincter would be so tight because

619
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: no ball is regular. And so I've been watching her

620
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks and I'm concerned if

621
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Speaker 1: she's even going to get to the quarters the way

622
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Speaker 1: she's playing, and if she does, good luck. Yeah, Well,

623
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Speaker 1: she has a tough I think not in her Her

624
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: draw is by far the hardest. Yes, the very section

625
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Speaker 1: really really good players and not only good players, but

626
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: also inform good players.

627
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that. But so Arena. Two things

628
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: about that. It reminds me of ash Bardi's coach who

629
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: talked about the bars and these bars are tough to

630
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: control trust in general, that's the one thing. And they

631
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: just fly on you. We've seen it in Montreal that

632
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: just you know, so many double from everyone, not only

633
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: from Coco, from everyone because they are tough to control.

634
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: That's one thing.

635
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: The other thing, arenas about another player who used to

636
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: do that was a beIN Aliziki who you know, when

637
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: she played well, could beat anybody in the world. She

638
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: beats Serena and Wimbledon. That's tough to do, and informs

639
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: Serena in Wimbledon. But when she missed, she missed by

640
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: twenty five feet. And the technique is similar in a way.

641
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: You know, the wind up there is so much going on,

642
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: so when they time it perfectly, not a single person

643
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: in the world can play it. But just the fraction

644
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: of a millimeter that is not in the sweet spot

645
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: goes off so far because the wind up. So I

646
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Speaker 2: think I don't know what you think. You're the technical

647
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Speaker 2: mastermind here, not me, the technical mastermind. Not that you said, asshole.

648
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Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't hear. I was like, mastermind,

649
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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 1: I cannot work it out. It's like she does. It's

651
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Speaker 1: like she doesn't feel the ball on her strings. And

652
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, everyone talked about Serena's a big hitter, blah

653
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: blah blah. Could roll the fourhand in, she could roll

654
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Speaker 1: the backend in and then she could go for it.

655
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Serena could make ten twelve balls if you asked her to.

656
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like Arena understands it, and I think

657
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: there's two reasons for that. I think clearly Serena was

658
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: a way better mover around the court. She could run

659
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Speaker 1: down ten fifteen balls easy. I don't think Arena really

660
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Speaker 1: wants to do that. She's not a grinder. I just

661
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Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't

662
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: make sense to me that the best player in the

663
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: world misses by the margins, she misses and bottom of

664
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Speaker 1: the net and ten feet wide, and then she can

665
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Speaker 1: play three four games that you can't touch the ball.

666
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Speaker 1: I just as I said as her coach, and now

667
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Speaker 1: she's brought in Max Meerni and her technical coach, Gavin

668
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: McMillan has now gone to Coco, which is fascinating to me.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. I'm not saying that she's she's

670
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Speaker 1: second favorite to win the tournament, but I just I

671
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Speaker 1: don't know. It's a conundrum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Arena Savlenka, she has a touse Toufjo Towson

673
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: is in her part as in her part, both informed players.

674
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Speaker 2: There's Paulinianova exactly, so she has really had a bad

675
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Speaker 2: hand when it comes to Josh. She had a bad

676
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: hand already in Wimbledon, she could have possibly played Vonderusilla

677
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Speaker 2: in the third round, got Emma rad o'canno in staid,

678
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: so that hasn't been easy. I think it might be

679
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 2: the bass. I think it might be the bass. And

680
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Speaker 2: I do think what I've noticed with Arena and Lindsay

681
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Devenport touched on it, which was really interesting, there is

682
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: a certain kind of nervousness around her, and Lindsay said

683
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: she thinks it's from her being by far the best

684
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Speaker 2: player in the world right now but not having won

685
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: a Slam. And I think the standards of a number

686
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Speaker 2: one player are just different. And if you are number

687
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Speaker 2: one and you haven't won a Slam, And just as

688
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: a reminder, seven five and the third at the Austrian

689
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: Open final, set up against Coco gov In, the French

690
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: Open final, set up against Amanda Nisimova in a break,

691
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: I think, in the Wimbledon semi final. So these are

692
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Speaker 2: opportunities missed, opportunities for Arena Sabalenka that have cast a

693
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Speaker 2: certain kind of nervousness and I think that paired for

694
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Speaker 2: a standard of a number one player. Obviously for me,

695
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Speaker 2: I would have had the best season of my life.

696
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Speaker 2: I had a season like Arena Sabalanca had this year.

697
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Speaker 2: But I think her standards are just different. And I

698
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Speaker 2: think you have to look at it through the lens

699
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Speaker 2: of a number one player, and Arena has big ambitions,

700
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Speaker 2: she wants to win the big titles. That pair that

701
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Speaker 2: nervousness paired with the light balls that are tough for

702
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Speaker 2: her to control. I think that's what you are seeing

703
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 2: right now, is my analysis of it.

704
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Speaker 1: Yeah, as we said, we're not in a head, we

705
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Speaker 1: don't know, we're not having these conversations with her, but

706
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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure it out and as I said, Sabolenka,

707
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Speaker 1: if the seeds hold up, it's going to be Sabolenka, Towson,

708
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Speaker 1: Rubackina and Paulini and all of those players. All of

709
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Speaker 1: them are playing really well. And in the bottom half

710
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Speaker 1: that draw, I think jess for Gula actually has a

711
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: pretty good section of the draw. She has a lot

712
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Speaker 1: of points to the fan I see her. Possibly, let

713
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Speaker 1: me just add in the top half that draw with

714
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Speaker 1: those players that I talked about in Sabolenka. Also Amma

715
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Speaker 1: Radakanuk Drusova is also there.

716
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Speaker 2: When Marketa has a good week or fortnite, we all

717
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: know what she can do. She's in the Paullini section,

718
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Speaker 2: so a lot I think that is alexandre Yala, who

719
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Speaker 2: plays Clara Tausen.

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Speaker 1: First. There are a lot, a lot of really good

721
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Speaker 1: players that have somehow all ended up in Sablenka's section. Yeah,

722
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Speaker 1: so she's going to be certainly tested. If she gets

723
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Speaker 1: through all of that, then look out, because she then

724
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Speaker 1: will start feeling like she can beat anybody. Yes, it's

725
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Speaker 1: the true down there part. As I said, Jesspa Gula,

726
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Speaker 1: maybe benchic getting through made the semis of Wemblon, but

727
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: hasn't played well in the summer, but her section of

728
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: the draw isn't bad. Sam Sonova, if she plays off

729
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: her face, can beat anyone, but also can lose to anyone.

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Speaker 1: Yestremskaes down there published in COVID. That's their first round.

731
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Speaker 1: But one person I want to talk about, particularly because

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Speaker 1: Caitlin's in the room and we have Canadian fans Victoria Mumboco. Yeah,

733
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Speaker 1: the North there in the house. Okay, Victoria Momboco. I

734
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Speaker 1: have to say this, what an amazing tournament that was.

735
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Speaker 1: She's such a great kid. Most Canadians are. And I'm

736
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Speaker 1: not saying that because you're in the room, but you

737
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: are the Commonwealth. Yeah, the Commonwealth. But she has an

738
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Speaker 1: unbelievably hard first round.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 1: She plays for Bora Kajikova, who has not Okay, we

741
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Speaker 1: know she hasn't had the year that she had previously

742
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Speaker 1: by winning Wimbledon. I did bump into Barbora in the

743
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: hallways of the US Open. I said, how you doing?

744
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: How's the body? She's a good much better, not one

745
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: hundred percent, but much better. So that will be an

746
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Speaker 1: interesting thing. She played well in Cincinnati. That's going to

747
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Speaker 1: be an interesting first round, more so because I know

748
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Speaker 1: there's pressure on Kadjikova because you're playing this young kid

749
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Speaker 1: and etc. But the amount of pressure Victoria Momboco is

750
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Speaker 1: going to face in that first round is wild. I

751
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: think there's only one player with more pressure, and that

752
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: would be Coco Gough. Honestly, Wimbocco. Every Canadian now thinks

753
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: she's going to win the US Open because she won

754
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: Canada and it's like, yeah, and she went it one day. Absolutely,

755
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: is she gonna win it this year? Doubtful because that's

756
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: a big ask for someone so young to beat this

757
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: many players in a row again, but also to beat

758
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: Kerjka first round, ker Jikaba first round. Can you imagine

759
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: the amount of reporters, cameras, expectations. She's probably done a

760
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: billion things since she won the Canadian Open. You how

761
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Speaker 1: would you advise someone so young to be able to

762
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Speaker 1: handle this pressure going into the US Open.

763
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Speaker 2: Well, So, the great thing is I spoke to Natalie

764
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Speaker 2: Tozia yesterday, who was in her coaching team.

765
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Speaker 1: She's working for the Canadian Tennis Federation. See this is

766
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: why you have us around. We get to the cruxity.

767
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Speaker 2: Well, and Natalie said, what they will try to do here,

768
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Speaker 2: and what they did in Montreal is they will try

769
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Speaker 2: to take it match by match. And she said to me,

770
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Speaker 2: Victoria is really good for her young age and sort

771
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Speaker 2: of compartmentalizing things and being like, Okay, this is what

772
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: I have to do today, and I'll take care of

773
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Speaker 2: the press later. This is what I have to do today,

774
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Speaker 2: and I'll take care of the press later. So that's

775
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Speaker 2: something that Alie said to me. So I do think

776
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Speaker 2: that for such a young age, she has quite a

777
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Speaker 2: good setup and quite a good mind for that. The

778
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: other thing is, in the semifinal in Montreal, she fell

779
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: on her wrist and she did play the final and

780
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: she won, but it wasn't as nothing as she made

781
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: it seem. There was a little bit of a tear

782
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: inside and she did have to pass for eight days afterwards,

783
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: and it was swollen, so she had to wait before

784
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: she could practice again. And now my question to you

785
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Speaker 2: is do you think that it's an advantage that maybe

786
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: she could have settled and just like work through what

787
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: she has achieved and accomplished and maybe reset for the

788
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Speaker 2: US Open, or maybe now she has grown the pressure

789
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: in her head because she had time to think about it.

790
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: You know, I mean tough, it could go both ways.

791
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Speaker 1: I think, honestly, only time will tell that is yeah,

792
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Speaker 1: I don't know. When you said it, I was like, oh,

793
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Speaker 1: it's good. She probably got away for those eight days

794
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: and just sort of like switched off and started worrying

795
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Speaker 1: about her wrist and not thinking about all this attention

796
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: and was locked into about her injury and all that

797
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But also the same time, you sort

798
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: of lose that hush that you have right that you've

799
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: just won a great tournament. Then you go out and

800
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: you win some more matches, and then you come into

801
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: the US Open and you just got all this tennis

802
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: under your belt and all the things, and then playing

803
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: a match is very different to practice. So I don't know.

804
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: I guess the only person that can answer that is

805
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: her and the results. If she plays well in that

806
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 1: first round, you're like, oh, well, it was the best

807
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: thing that could happen to her. And if she loses badly,

808
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: you're like, well, that sucked. So I don't know. And also,

809
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: she's playing a very accomplished, incredible player who can withstand

810
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, who's had to deal with that

811
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Speaker 1: in singles.

812
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: And doubles and one problem I do see just strictly

813
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: tennis matchup wise, not talking about mentality and pressure and

814
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: so on. The way Naomi Osaka won the first set

815
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: against Victoria m Boco. Victoria and Boco was she stuck

816
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Speaker 2: in the forehand cross court rallies because she knew Naomi's

817
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: forehand is better than Victoria's forehand. It's not bad, but

818
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: Naomi's is just better, and she's stuck in those forehand

819
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: cross called rallies, and they did it over and over

820
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: again and giving.

821
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Speaker 1: The game plan, giving away the game.

822
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Speaker 2: Plan here, Well, what I want to say is Krichikova

823
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Speaker 2: has one of the best forehand cross courts in the world.

824
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Speaker 2: I don't think many people can withstand Barbora Krichikova in

825
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: the forehand cross court rallies. That's why you see a

826
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Speaker 2: lot of players trying to go quickly to her back ends,

827
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Speaker 2: so she has to run. And it's a whole thing

828
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Speaker 2: against Krechikova. She's so talented. I hated playing her. I

829
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Speaker 2: hate her for how.

830
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Speaker 1: Good she is.

831
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Speaker 2: She's a lovely person, but for how good she is,

832
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: it was an absolute nightmare. So right, just strictly speaking

833
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: about tennis matchup, this could be a tough fun for

834
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Speaker 2: Imboco if Krichikova is really disciplined about the forehand cross courts.

835
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Speaker 1: I agree, and that you know, we talk about this

836
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: a lot on the podcast or in general on TV.

837
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Speaker 1: Is that tennis is. It's such an interesting sport because

838
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: you can play so well against certain people, but in

839
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: the end, it is a mats Matchhops do determine a

840
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: lot of things, and there are some players that really

841
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: struggle with hitting their fourhand down line. Remarking is one

842
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: of those gubby and you moved to Gruthe is one

843
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: of those players that used to be able to not

844
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Speaker 1: do that fourhand down the line. That well, there are

845
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Speaker 1: players out there. If you watch, if you are a

846
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: good coach as well, you will pick on certain things.

847
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: And that's just the case with Kujikaba. That foehand cross

848
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: god is so good and it is hard to change

849
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: it down the line you're going a higher part of

850
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Speaker 1: the net, etcetera, etcetera. Emma Navarro has really struggled. She

851
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: struggled it and she lost first round in Monterey trying

852
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Speaker 1: to get matches. Coming into the US Open. We've talked

853
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Speaker 1: about the sophomore year. Can she turn around here at

854
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: the US Open, I don't know. She plays your fun

855
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: one in the first round, that's not easy. She has

856
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: Jikaba or Momboco in that section. I feel like, I

857
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to get through that second well.

858
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: And in the second round she has Katie McNally, who

859
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: possibly if Katie gets through her first round. And I

860
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: thought Katie the way she came back. She's had the

861
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: wrist injury.

862
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Nice to see.

863
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: Elbow injury, sorry elbow. She had to have to have

864
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: surgery on her elbow. That's one of the toughest surgeries

865
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: to go through. And she's had a comeback quicker than

866
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: I've seen from almost anybody within eight months. She's on

867
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: the verge of breaking into the top hundred already, has

868
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: won billions of challenger titles, I think three in a

869
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: row before coming into Montreal. She's the only player who

870
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: took a set of Eager Sciontek at Wimbledon. So she's

871
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: in quite a good form. And I think Katie could

872
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: maybe with a bit of help from the jar, could

873
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: go could go far.

874
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see. I guess that's why they play

875
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: the mattress. I think Andreva, we'll see where she's at

876
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: emotionally and just physically.

877
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: Now, what do you think is just the pressure of

878
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: having played so well in the beginning of the.

879
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: I think so she's young, she's just learning how to

880
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: deal with the pressure every day all day. Anyway, let's

881
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: get to the other section of the draw before we

882
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: go for three hours on this podcast.

883
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: But how long have we? Oh, Okay, we're still in

884
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: good time.

885
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: Battye Keys. Do we think that she can book end

886
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: the year with a Grand Slam at the us Ope?

887
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: And we know how well she plays here the us

888
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: Ope and the court is perfect for her, the balls

889
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: are good for her. I feel she has a pretty

890
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: good section. She might play Costure in the third round,

891
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: who can play very good tennis, Mohova potentially Mohovah Venus

892
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: William's first round that is I guarantee you that's going

893
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: to be an.

894
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: Arthur ash That's an ad session.

895
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: I can guarantee. What do we think about Venus's chances

896
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: in that match? Before we get to Maddie, that's just

897
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: a rough first round for me.

898
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: That's a rough first round. Honestly, Madison and Venus, I

899
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: would never put it past them anything. Because he asked

900
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: about Ken Madison win this tournament. I would always say

901
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: yes right away, and Ken Venus speak Curlina Mokhova, I

902
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: would also say yes right away. But obviously I think

903
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: the weather will help her. It's not going to be

904
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: as hot and humid as it can be during the

905
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: US Open. That's one thing. The other thing the crowd.

906
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: You can just see her passion for the game, her competitiveness.

907
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: That was really fun to watch and watching you see. However,

908
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 2: she lost to Fresh in Washington, and the way Fresh

909
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: beater is short slices, drop shots angles because that's when

910
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Venus has to run. And who can do a better

911
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: drop shot slices opening up the angle than Carolina freakin Mukhova.

912
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one. The one thing about Venus in that match,

913
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: I think she just she looked tired. She was very tiny,

914
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: She looked tired. She played a couple of doubles matches.

915
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: I think this will be a little bit different. She'll

916
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: have so hot in Washington, so hot in Washington, so

917
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: I think that helped. Although she played at night, so

918
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: I can't really say that. But she did play a

919
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: couple of doubles matches that went the distance, So I

920
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: think that hurt her a little bit. In Washington. I

921
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: think it helped her get some matches before the singles,

922
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: but then it actually the combination of all the matches

923
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: started to physically get to her a little bit. So

924
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: we'll see it's a nightmare matchup for her in that

925
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: section of the draw at the top with Mattie Keys

926
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: is Coco. But if Naomi and Saka wins through and

927
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: Coco went through, they are going to play each other

928
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. That to me is really interesting

929
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: because I think the one person and people that Coco

930
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: struggles against, the people that go after the return and

931
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: go after the forehand, and of course we know Naomi

932
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: is one of the best of that. Anaomi's playing pretty well,

933
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: super well. She's got a new coach on board with

934
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: Thomas Wickgorowski. I think that's going to be a real

935
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: test for Coco. I've seen her over the last three days.

936
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: You guys working with Gavin McMillan on this serve. We

937
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: know it's been the biggest achilles heel for her since

938
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: winning the franch You can get away with it on clay.

939
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: You can get away with hitting a crappy second serve

940
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: on clay because she can run the return down. She's

941
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: going to mentally break you down. She's going to physically

942
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: break you down. But on fast, hardcourt and grass, you

943
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: have to serve well. So this serve she has been

944
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: working on with Gavin for three days. We all saw

945
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: her if you were watching our coverage on Espien, hitting

946
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: serves are literally in the rain. And then yesterday before

947
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: the little exhibition thing they had last night, she was

948
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: on court and I swear all she did was serf.

949
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: He's clearly working on her technique. You know, he's working

950
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: on the elbow, he's working on the hand, he's working

951
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: on everything. You tell me, Pecko, you tell me how hard,

952
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: because you know you were always tinkering around with your serf.

953
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: How hard is it five days before the biggest tournament

954
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: for you in the world, the US Open, with all

955
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: the pressure on her shoulders, going into Arthur Ash where

956
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: she will literally play every match. Can you imagine playing

957
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: in front of twenty thousand people going Okay, what do

958
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: we work on? What do I do with my elbow?

959
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: What do I do with my I mean, oh my god,

960
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: Like the pressure on this kid being and having to

961
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: adjust the serve. I mean, are you nervous for her

962
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: because I am I mean, I was nervous for her

963
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: watching her serve last night in that exhibition. I am

964
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: not nervous at all.

965
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: Okay, good does I call it? Both her matches in Montreal,

966
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: where she served twenty four double falls per match, That

967
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: is twenty one percent of surf she hit word double falls.

968
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Twenty one percent of points she lost were through double faults.

969
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: Just let that seep in.

970
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 1: No, i'd brotherly are mine? How much worse can I get?

971
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: I would have brought in five coaches and think about

972
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: my elbows seventeen five times before. I'm not nervous for

973
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: her at all. The surf looks already much better. She

974
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: made every single serf yesterday and that exhibition, And that's

975
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: even harder in a way, because you only have ten

976
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 2: points to make your serf you can find your rhythm.

977
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: You don't have time for that.

978
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: John mcnroe is on the other side looking at you

979
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: with his mean eye, and you're like, oh my god,

980
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: so you better make your serf and she did. That's

981
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: more pressure than first shown on Arthur ash and a

982
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 2: night session facing John Freakin McEnroe on the other side.

983
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: That is true in a lot of ways. You probably like,

984
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: come on, give me a break. It's an ex so

985
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: who cares. But you know you got to get the

986
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: serving because you know, in mentally you're thinking, if I

987
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: double fault hiring an exhibition with technically quote unquote no

988
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: pressure and I can't get the serve in, imagine what

989
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: it's like, what it really matters.

990
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: And then the best was Andre Agasy double faulted in

991
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: her Yeah, so I was speaking about it joking jokingly

992
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I do think that it couldn't

993
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: have gotten much worse than particularly in Montreal. It was

994
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: a lot better already in Cincinnati. She is such a

995
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: talented kid. She improves so quickly. We saw her win

996
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: Wuhan with changing her grip on the serf a week prior.

997
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: He can do anything. She's just I think people see

998
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: the things that break down on her when she's not

999
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: playing well and think, oh, she has so many holes

1000
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: in her game. What they refuse to see is the

1001
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 2: talent that this Coco Gough has in every single inch

1002
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: of her body and how quickly she learns. And I

1003
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: think that's an underestimated quality in tennis players. Yes, some

1004
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: feel the ball nicely some can have a create a

1005
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: tremendous amount of power, but how quickly you learn you

1006
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: things is very much part of the game and one

1007
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: of the best, and that was Novak Djokovic, and Coco

1008
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: gov is not very far behind him in that department.

1009
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Well, WHOA sorry about that. Well, I'll tell you one thing.

1010
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Coco has a heck of a draw to have to

1011
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: get through to the semi finals, let alone the final.

1012
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if it goes according to what we think

1013
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: at their.

1014
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: Best, the first few rounds are okay, the first.

1015
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: Three rounds are okay. She definitely has you know, Crete

1016
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Minnan and then Haley Baptist or snee Kova be a

1017
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: bit of a test. Then possibly Casakina. I don't think

1018
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: that will be as much of a test because Caskina

1019
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: really doesn't go after the ball. She'll make her play

1020
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of balls, but that's kind of what Coco's

1021
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: comfortable with doing. But then we start looking at Naomi

1022
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: Osaka to possibly play Madison Keys or Mukhova, whoever gets

1023
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: through that section, and then to play Eager. There's no

1024
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: doubt in my mind Eagerson Tech is the is the

1025
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: favorite to win the US Open. She's playing, so I

1026
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but after she played, you know,

1027
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: we talked about the match of the year, without question,

1028
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: is still Eagerson Tech and Key's Australian Open semi final.

1029
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: The final was fantastic, but the semifinal was outrageous. How

1030
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: good the tennis was. You and I were sitting courtside,

1031
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: so when we sit courtside, we see everything, and that

1032
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: was the standard of tennis I have not seen, no,

1033
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say ever, but there was as close of

1034
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: the greatest, one of the greatest matches I ever watched,

1035
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: and I still think it's the match of the year.

1036
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: Eager Eager could not have I don't think Eager could

1037
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: have played better than that match and still lost it.

1038
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: And I think losing that match having a match point,

1039
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: I think that ruined her for like three months.

1040
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent, and I think we talked

1041
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: about it on the podcast. But for those who maybe

1042
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: haven't listened, I went back and I checked all her

1043
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: matches that are on public record, and Eager had never

1044
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: lost ever in an official match having held the match point.

1045
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: That had never happened to IGOs Fiontek. Maybe in juniors

1046
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: when she was fourteen. Maybe she had lost the match,

1047
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: but she had never held the match point and not

1048
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: have finished the match. So this was a novelty for her,

1049
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: and I agree with you. I think there was the

1050
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: highest quality match. When I retired, I had many ups

1051
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: and downs of being sad that I wasn't a tennis

1052
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: player anymore and being happy. The happiest moment of my

1053
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: retirement was seeing that match and just registering that I'm

1054
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: not a tennis player anymore and I don't have to

1055
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: play this kind of quality tennis, either against Madison or

1056
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: Ego Sciontech. So I agree with you one hundred percent

1057
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: of this.

1058
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. So for me, I think it took her a

1059
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: long time to get over that match. I think it

1060
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: dented her somehow. And then we know what happened on

1061
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: the clay courts. I mean she was getting beaten comfortably

1062
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 1: on clay. She got lost to Coco easily in Rome.

1063
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: I think it was lost in the French Open. It

1064
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, if she can't win on clay,

1065
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: imagine mentally what was going through her mind. If I

1066
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: can't beat these people on clay, how am I going

1067
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: to win a Grand Slam again? So I think she

1068
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Speaker 1: kind of said, fuck it, you know whatever, I'm just

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00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: going to give it a go on grass. And she

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00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: still probably can't believe she won. Wimbled her. I've had

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00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: many conversations with her about Wimbledon, and I was like

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00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: trying to convince her that she could win it. She's like,

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00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't play on grass, blah blah.

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Speaker 1: She wins Wimbledon, she goes and she doesn't play. She

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00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: played okay in Canada and then played on a faster

1076
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: court in Cincinnati. Unbelievable. That match against Rebuccina was unreal.

1077
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Speaker 1: It was very competitive in the finalists Pallolini, I think

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00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: her confidence is back to where it was when she

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Speaker 1: was dominating at world number one, where she couldn't lose

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00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: a match there. What's thirty seven match win streak. I

1081
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: think she's on that train again. And I don't see

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00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: anyone in her section of the drawer, and it's listen.

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00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not trying to give other

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00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: players shit here, but the players in her section of

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00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: the draw there's no one in there unless they play

1086
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: off their face. And she has a bad day that

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00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: she's not making the semi.

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00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: Fine, well, Amanda Nissi will wow, was it so loud

1089
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, don't know maybe exactly what you said,

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Speaker 2: Amanda Neissimova and the quarter finals, if she gets through

1091
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: her section, could be a player that plays off her face.

1092
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: And if Ega does and have a great day, that

1093
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: could be somebody. I think everyone is celebrating and creating

1094
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: prayer circles that there is no Asta Penko in Nigasciontek

1095
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: section off the draw. I think she's in the other half.

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00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: So that's great. But no, I agree with you one

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00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: hundred percent, and I do.

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Speaker 1: Think that that.

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Speaker 2: Actually I spoke to Wimfiseette in Cincinnati after she had

1100
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: lost to Clara Towson in Montreal, and he said, you know,

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00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 2: just mentality wise, she was reverting a little bit back

1102
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: to before Wimbledon, where she got really hard on herself

1103
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: and everything needed to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: Well because she won wimblet so she thought it was

1105
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: a spost to win everything. Now, that's where the mentality

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00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: part is very That's why I think she's on the train,

1107
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: because she understands what she needs to do now mentally,

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00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: physically and with her game. That's why I feel like

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00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: she's on that upper echelonta.

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Speaker 2: But that's exactly what because I spoke to him on

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00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 2: the day before her first round in Cincinnati and he said,

1112
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: our goal for Cincinnati is purely dead. That she accepts

1113
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: that unforced errors can happen like she did and Wembledon,

1114
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: that's our only goal for Cincinnati. And seeing her do

1115
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: that so well and so quickly after only one tournament,

1116
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: we did see emotional outbursts, but I think that was

1117
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: what was really impressive to that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what we should have done better,

1119
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: because I could never let anything go.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm still holding a grudge against my forehand.

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00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm still holding a grudge against my forehand since it

1122
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: was birthed. But anyway, so okay, so let's just wrap

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Speaker 1: it up here. Eager Sheiontech is my favorite. I think

1124
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: some Darren Kyle actually thinks that Amanda Anissimova will be

1125
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: right there at the end as well. And I said, Darren,

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Speaker 1: do you I hate to bring this up, but do

1127
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: you remember when she didn't win a game against Eager

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Speaker 1: at Wimbledon. But I think it'll be different because she

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Speaker 1: would have learned so much from that experience. But listen.

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Speaker 1: My thoughts in the end to wrap this lovely live

1131
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 1: podcast up is that I think that and Yannick Cina

1132
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: are my two favorites. What about you.

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00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: My two favorites are IgA and Carlos, just because I

1134
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: don't know how Yanick will recover from you know, it's

1135
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: a long year and I don't know the virus, how

1136
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: much substance he has lost. That's the only reason I

1137
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 2: think between Carlos and Yannick it's zero points zero one percent,

1138
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: and so that's the only reason I put Carlos slightly ahead.

1139
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: Have you, guys watched the Lavata advertising with Janick Cinna

1140
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: on his Instagram?

1141
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: I have not. It's amazing.

1142
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: Please everyone go on your phones right now and lovaa.

1143
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: No Cappuccio and Lavasti is not a sponsor, so yeah,

1144
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: go and watch it all right, guys, Well, thanks for

1145
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: coming to the Seaport here in New York. You, Petko

1146
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: and I are New Yorkers. We don't sound like it,

1147
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: but we definitely live here. I live up in the

1148
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: East Village and you live over in Brooklyn. So for

1149
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: us to be able to do a live past podcast

1150
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: in New York is always fun. Come down to the

1151
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: seaport for everybody. The Racket magazine events staff and putting

1152
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: on an awesome bent down here at the seaport. And

1153
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: they're going to be here for two weeks, correct, Caitlin,

1154
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: two weeks. And there is a court and for New Yorkers,

1155
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: you know how it is to get a court. The

1156
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: ball might take a couple of weird bounces, but trust me,

1157
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: it's worth it. It's a beautiful view. Petko, thanks for

1158
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: taking the ferry over to you take the ferry over.

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Speaker 2: I took the bicycle, but I'm taking the ferry back.

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00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: Oh the bicycle. You rode on a city bike over here.

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00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 2: Electric bag okay.

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Speaker 1: Lazy okay. Thanks everybody for Joey's today and we'll see you. Thanks. Bye,