WEBVTT - Safe - Talina Zar E7 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:13.960 Ricinus communis is an exotic perennial plant with oversized purplish leaves, 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:19.000 bulbous seed pods, and blooms in various striking colors. It's 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:23.599 a pretty plant, often grown in decorative gardens. The seeds, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.320 called castor beans, which are about the size of a peanut, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.840 can be pressed into castor oil, which has several uses 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.839 as a preservative in food and an ingredient in cosmetic products. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.280 But the seeds are probably more famously known for their 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:46.599 lethal nature, as they contain a toxin risin that can 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.239 kill even in small amounts. As this poison can be 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.680 manufactured at home, it's a popular choice for would be assassins. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.320 Cruise and hazmat suits are seen entering a male facility 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.760 near washing after letters sent to President Barack Obama and 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.720 a Mississippi senator test positive for risin. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.240 The FBI is also investigating letters sent to the Pentagon 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.720 that tested positive for the deadly poison ricin. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.959 The details of an arrest at the Canada US border 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.200 of a person suspected of sending a letter containing a 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.520 deadly poison to Donald Trump's White House. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:27.520 Despite their potential for deadly use, you can legally buy 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.480 Castban's online or in a gardening store, and if you 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.200 happen upon them by accident, it's likely you wouldn't recognize 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:36.760 the fatal power they contain. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.520 Investigator Elliot located a small firebox safe in one of 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:42.600 the bedroom closets. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.600 Corey states she. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.640 Does not have a key for it and it hasn't 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.840 been opened in probably ten years. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.120 Detective Weber noted that during one of the searches of 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:58.000 Teleina and Corey's house, the investigator stumbled on a small safe. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.360 Corey insists that the safe can't be opened, but Weber 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.440 is not so easily deterred. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.240 I located several sets of keys hanging in the closet 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.960 by the front door. The first key I tried opened 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.160 the safe. The findings inside the safe were extremely significant. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.600 Inside the safe, among other things, were three small packages 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:26.320 of bubble wrap. Inside the packages were castor beans and 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:31.640 seeds to grow castor beans, specifically Ricinus communists. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.680 The police can't take the beans, they aren't included in 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:41.000 the search warrant, but they can take Corey's computers, and 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.320 in one of them they find a Microsoft word file 0:02:45.000 --> 0:03:13.040 created in twenty twelve titled making Risin from iHeart podcasts. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.880 I'm Melissa Jelson, and this is what happened to Telenazar. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.520 And I slung open the door and me and Rachel 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.120 standing there, and she goes, oh my god, this thing 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:24.440 sounds like bath. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.920 Well, the only reason it has to do with anything 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.600 is just because my understanding it was there one day 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.200 and now it's not. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.520 She goes, well, Corey butchered that thing, and I'm like 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.080 what she said. Yeah, she ket that horse up in 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.920 tiny little pieces and dumped it out for the kayadt. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:50.040 He rope was fucking hell, what's going on here? We 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:50.920 thought we thought we had her. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.000 My husband and I spent every penny we had to 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.840 move to his confident and we went through a tough 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:03.640 time where we didn't have much money. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:10.320 Episode seven, Safe Tell me when you first learned about 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.000 what had happened in Wisconsin. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.480 She had been involved in a robbery. That's how she 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:16.159 got her felony. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.320 Early on in Jess's investigation, she doesn't know much about 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.640 Corey's past criminal conviction, just that she had one in 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:30.040 Wisconsin in twenty fourteen, until a woman named Sherry Ziegler 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.240 joins the Justice for Teleina Facebook group. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.039 And then Sherry told me the exact story of what 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:36.679 had happened. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:44.000 Sherry and her husband Michael lived still live in Middleton, Wisconsin. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.279 It's a suburb of Madison, a friendly place, according to 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:52.320 its motto, the good neighbor City. Cherry said, for the 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.440 first twenty years they lived there, they never really locked 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.880 their doors, but that all starts to change when the 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.640 Zieglers get back from a trip to Florida at the 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:06.039 end of March twenty fourteen. It's then that they experience 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:11.840 a series of strange and unexplained events. First, they come 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:16.760 home to a mess, a bunch of unidentified debris spread 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.720 inside their house. In the hallways and in their bedroom, 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.680 they find what looks like small pebbles or crumbled sheet rock. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:30.440 It's also in their bed, under the covers, and inside 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.400 Sherry's underwear and sock drawer. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.719 She said it looked like kitty litter on her bed, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.000 her pillow, all over her dresser. Yeah, she called it 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:39.600 kitty litter. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.880 The couple are exhausted, and since nothing else appears disturbed, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.920 they've write it off as a weird prank. They unpack, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.159 return their travel money to their safe, sweep the weird 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.559 pebbles out of their sheets go to bed. A month 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:02.240 passes without incident, and then one night, Mike goes to 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.000 get some items from the safe in their bedroom closet 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:10.880 and finds the safe's not there. Shery tells Jess it 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:12.839 was filled with the usual valuables. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.880 It was like a thousand dollars worth of cash. The 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.839 deed to their house like a bunch of important stuff 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:19.760 that you've keep in a safe. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:25.520 Right this time, the Zieglers call the police. A deputy 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.919 comes by, makes a report, and begins an investigation, but 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:35.600 without any leads or evidence, the case goes stale. And 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.440 then a month after that, Cherry gets a credit card 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.640 statement in the mail. It's from a card she never activated, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.400 and it's only now she realizes it's missing from where 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.320 she left it in a dish on the kitchen counter. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.919 A credit card bill had come in the mail for 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.839 a credit card she knew she had not opened yet, 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.920 and that's what led her to check the statement find 0:06:58.920 --> 0:06:59.960 out where the money was spent. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.240 And Sherry calls the credit card company and they tell 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.920 her that the card was activated a few weeks earlier 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:12.200 from the landline inside her home. She knows she didn't 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:16.280 activate it, so who did. Looking at the charges on 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.680 her statement, she recognizes some of the businesses where the 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.200 card was used. Among them is the gas station down 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:27.840 the road. So much like Jess would, I imagine, Cherry 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.560 heads over to the quick trip and demands to see 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.480 the video footage of the transaction. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.880 Her and her little self, which I can attest to 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.080 at this point is maybe one hundred and twenty pounds 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.840 of older lady. She's a wonderful human. I really like Sherry, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.160 but she's anybody little thing going down there asking for 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:52.320 receipts and videos. And I mean Biddleton and Verona is 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.400 pretty small so and she's lived there a long time, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.520 so she had a couple relationships and wasn't afraid to 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:58.760 go up and say, hey, I want to look at 0:07:58.760 --> 0:07:59.280 this video. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.680 And who does Sherry see using the card issued in 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:09.720 her name? Her neighbor, Corey Shehry told Jess that Corey 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.720 and her husband Alec had moved in next door a 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.840 few months earlier, and from the beginning it had been 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.200 a tense relationship. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.640 She said it was always just an uncomfortable dynamic, that 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.680 her and Corey never really hit it off at all, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.480 but Mike and Corey seem to have some kind of 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.560 like neighborly relationship. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.920 Sherry reports her discovery to the police, and later that 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:37.360 day they arrest Corey. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.040 I began by asking Corey if she was aware that 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.640 her neighbor to the direct north had been burglarized, to 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:45.600 which she said yes. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.760 Well, Sherry wasn't able to listen in on the conversation 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.640 between Corey and the arresting officers. I was able to 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.200 obtain the police report, which goes into detail about this 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.640 interaction as well as their full investigation. You're about to 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.920 hear re enacted selections of the police report. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.760 I began to show Corey Adams the still photographs of 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.600 the suspect inside the Quick Trip located on West Mineral 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.040 Point Road. I asked Corey if she recognized the subject 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.480 in the photograph, from which she said, it sure looks 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.839 like me, It sure looks like me. I then showed 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.360 Corey Adams the photograph of the vehicle buying gas at 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.679 the Quick Trip on East Varona Avenue and asked her 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.080 if that was the vehicle which was sitting in her driveway, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.480 which she said yes, yes. I again asked Corey Adams 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.240 if she knew anything about the crimes committed against her 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.360 direct next door neighbor Michael and Sharon Ziegler, and she 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.120 again said no, no. As I continued to question Corey Adams, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.320 she said, I'm racking my brain trying to make sense 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:41.560 of this. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.680 I'm racking my brain trying to make sense of this. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.640 I informed Corey Adams that the evidence against her at 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.360 this point was very incriminating and that if she had 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.760 any involvement with this crime, now is the time to 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:53.560 tell me the truth. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.280 Corey continues to say she doesn't know anything about any 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:03.480 crimes committed against her name. Corey is later charged with 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.960 four counts of fraudulent use of a credit card. However, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.240 the police are never able to connect Corey to the 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.120 missing safe or find proof that she entered the Ziegler's 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.880 house illegally. Here's Jess again. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.920 Sherry insists that Corey was in her home, and she's 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.040 convinced that she had to come in the house gotten 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.640 a letter because it had to be done from her phone. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.920 In court, Corey ultimately takes a plea bargain, admitting to 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.200 one count of fraudulently using a credit card. She denies 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.760 stealing it, though instead she claims she simply found the 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.520 activated credit card outside on the ground and decided to 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:50.000 use it. Judge William E. Hanrahan is skeptical. Here's a 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.360 reenactment of some of his comments in court. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.560 All right, so somebody else had access, got into the 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.000 house and took the time to use that home phone 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.480 to activate the credit card, and somehow had access to 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.400 the last port digits of the victim's social Security number, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.880 and took all these affirmative steps, but didn't have the 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.280 wherewithal to hang on to the card when they left 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.440 the house. And your client just happened to pick up 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:19.120 that exact, same, newly activated card and had the lapse 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.760 of judgment enough to stick it in her pocket and 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.400 go and use it on several occasions. Is that the story? 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.439 The judge doesn't buy Corey's explanation, and neither do the Zieglers. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.880 Even though she pleads guilty, they still have so many questions. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.360 Here's the recreation of parts of Sherry's victim impact statement 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:41.480 that was read in court. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.079 This defendant is being charged and convicted of the fraudulent 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.120 use of my credit card, but the underlying concern is 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.160 so much greater than that. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.480 It is this how did she get my credit card? 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.199 Sherry explains that she spoke with the credit card company 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.480 and they were able to pinpoint the exact time and 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.760 date that the credit card was activated. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.360 We left our house at six point thirty that night 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.600 and the card was activated at seven o'clock the same night. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.360 The credit card was activated from our home phone, and 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.680 the credit card company reported that it was activated by 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:18.280 a woman. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.199 That woman knew. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.760 The last four digits of my social security number. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.480 Cherry tells the judge she believes the woman is her 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.120 next door neighbor, Corey. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.840 It seems so very obvious to us all that she 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.400 was in our home while she knew we were gone. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.200 She found the new credit card sitting on the kitchen counter, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.600 She used our phone to activate it, and then she 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.640 was seen using the credit card Shortly after that, she 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.960 is seen on video using my credit card. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.000 She used it multiple times. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.240 Judge, I wish there was a way you could compel 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.120 Corey to tell you and us how she got my 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.120 credit card number. We just want her to admit that 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.880 it was her who stole it. At least then we 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.760 would know who was in our house that night. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.800 Sherry reminds the judge that this incident was not the 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.679 first intrusion into their home. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.680 When we returned from a trip to Florida in March, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:19.439 we came home to stuff, kitty litter or broken sheet 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.520 rock material scattered throughout our house, especially on my side 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.720 of the bed and in my underwear drawer. This was 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.160 very personal and I felt particularly scared. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.360 And then there's the issue of the stolen safe, the 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.720 valuables that were never recovered, and no one was held 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.120 accountable for all of it. Was taking a toll on 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.760 Sherry and Mike. So much for the good neighbor city. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.000 Do we feel safe living next door to Corey? No? 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:53.240 Do our neighbors feel safe after our house was broken into? No, 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.600 none of us feel safe anymore. We are good, law 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.599 abiding people, and we have to live being afraid of 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.480 our nigh This is no way to live. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.160 The judge has some choice words for Corey before she leaves. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.160 Now, I've been told that you've been punished enough by 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:17.680 a conviction for this crime. I'm not feeling it. Honestly. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.040 I find this to be an aggravated offense. I don't 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.600 know why, at age fifty two that this seemed like 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.280 a good thing to do in fact, I don't really 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.040 know the depth of what you've done. The most troubling 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.360 aspect of this whole string of events here is that 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.440 it wasn't against a major corporation. It's not against a stranger. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:44.320 It's against your neighbor. This is of biblical proportions. These 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.560 are people who should have been able to trust you. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.480 It strikes at the very heart of an individual's sense 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.840 of security, their sense of well being, their sense of belonging. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.920 Corey is sentenced to two years probation in order to 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:05.560 build a privacy fence between their two properties. The judge 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.280 goes on to Warren Corey that her life is at 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.400 a crossroads and it could easily be headed in the 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:12.200 wrong direction. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.560 You've got to know that what you've done is extremely wrong. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.840 You've got to know that somehow, somewhere along the way 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.200 you slip the tracks. You have to figure out what 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.760 went wrong, and you have to fix it. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.960 Five years later, Corey is sitting in a small interview 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:39.200 room in the Wagner County Sheriff's office answering questions about Tealina, 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.560 and when Detective Weber asks about Corey's criminal history, she 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.120 tells him a very different story. Than she told police 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.120 in Wisconsin in twenty fourteen. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.960 Somebody brought up at some point that you were charged 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.120 with something and I don't remember what state. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:03.080 Wisconsin or in Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Yes, So what happened in 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.400 a nutshell my husband's. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.720 Version, she's the victim. She tells Weber that she had 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.400 befriended Mike Ziegler and he had helped her out financially 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.600 during a rough patch. Corey says Mike offered her his 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.600 wife's credit card to use for essentials like gas and groceries, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.720 and he said she could pay him back whenever she 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:25.440 got the chance. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.800 Well, the wife was jealous of him and I for 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:34.680 no reason, and she had a canary and she pressed charges. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.880 Weber doesn't take Corey's story at face value. Instead, the 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.960 Wagner County Sheriff's office reaches out to authorities in Wisconsin 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:48.000 for context. I imagine Weber got the same police reports. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.440 I have, the ones detailing the missing safe, the multiple 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.720 break ins, the strange debris scattered all around the house. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.000 Weber also gets a tip a legend that Corey had 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.440 not only stolen the Ziegler's credit card, but had actually 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.440 tried to poison them. It sounds a little far fetched, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:14.600 why would she poison her neighbors. But when Wagner police 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:19.080 discover the castor beans and the word document outlining how 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:24.240 to make ricin, they start to wonder, maybe that tip. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.080 Is true, considering the beans were hidden in a safe 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.480 inside of bubble wrap in a closet, and because Corey 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.520 lied about having a key to it, and this made 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.280 the history in Wisconsin in which she reportedly trying to 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.480 poison people much more likely to be true. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.880 And maybe that strange debris Sherry Ziegler found in her 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:50.040 bed wasn't kitty litter after all. In July, the Wagner 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.040 County Sheriff's office reaches out to Sherry, who later told 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:54.520 all of. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.280 This to Jess. One of the sheriffs said, well, if 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.920 you think you still have any of it in your house, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.639 she said, you know, I don't think I do, but 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.280 I'll go and look. And it just so happens that 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.080 behind her dresser in her room she still had parts 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.800 of it. I was kind of shocked, because this happened 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.160 in twenty fourteen, and we're talking twenty twenty at this point, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.520 that she still had pieces of it. I was like, Wow, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:16.960 I don't think i'd have any of that left in 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.000 my house. She said she had kept some of the 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.520 kitty litter stuff, like in a bag eat, just because 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.639 she was always like confused as to what it was. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.080 And they had said, well, can you mail whatever it 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.960 is you have down to the Sheriff's office and she 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:30.920 said sure, why not. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.720 Wagner Investigators receive Sherry's package and hands it over to 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:40.520 the FBI for testing. It comes back positive for risin. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.639 And I was like, wow, she. I'm a huge Breaking 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.800 Bad fan, love Breaking Bad. I remember the episode when 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.200 Walter made Bryce no to castor beans. So that's where 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.960 my head went, like her in a lab somewhere creating 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.159 this powder, and really she was doing it in the 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.280 shed in the backyard. So that was my Oh shit, 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:02.520 we're in a lot of trouble. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.959 Now Here's what Jess told me happened next, though I 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.000 wasn't able to independently verify it. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.679 Every post office that her letter went through had to 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.200 be shut down and inspected and tested because of what 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.959 the poison ended up being. So I joke with Sherry 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.679 all the time in regards to being, you know, one 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.000 of those people that sends poison in the mail. I'm like, gosh, 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.439 we you know you're a felon at this point, and 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.359 we kind of giggle about it, and the poor sheriff, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.560 I'm sure, is beating his head against the wall, thinking 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.480 what the heck did I have her do? I can't 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.200 imagine any sheriff in the right mind to be like, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:37.840 go ahead and mail that to us if that's you 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.359 know what he actually thought it was. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.679 The Wagner County Sheriff's office passes the information along to 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:49.200 Wisconsin so they can open their own investigation. But back 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:54.840 in Oklahoma, Toalina's case remains at a standstill. Corey's still 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:59.640 free on bond, Toleina is still missing, and the online 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.879 sleuth are suddenly in the dark. 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.760 After Marty had died, we were kind of cut off 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.840 from information in Oklahoma quite a bit. He was the 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.520 one that police bar I was talking to, so then 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:10.760 he'd feed it back to us, right. 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.760 Meanwhile, Corey goes about her business. In late August, she 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.000 attempts to scrap to Lena's truck, a two thousand and 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.320 seven Dodge Ram. She brings it to Budget Recycling along 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.879 with the story that the truck had been given to 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.639 her by a relative of a friend, and that it 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.560 was kind of busted. The scrapyard says they can only 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.800 give her about two hundred bucks, which is far less 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.879 than the truck is worth, but she agrees and walks 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:43.000 out with the cash. The scrapyard employees find this whole 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.600 interaction strange, especially after they drive the car and it's 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.640 running just fine. After doing a bit of googling amateur 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:56.399 sleuths themselves, they work out who Corey is a suspect 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:01.600 in her roommate's disappearance and report the incident to Corey 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.959 is arrested once again, this time for felony, fraud, and embezzlement. 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.679 But Corey bonds out once again, and this time she 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:15.040 gets out of Wagner. She heads to Wisconsin to stay 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:19.679 with her mom. Jess learns about this and realizes Corey 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.760 is now only one stayed away. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.960 When she moved to Wisconsin to be with her mom, 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.280 I got not scared, but more worried because she was closer. 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.520 Middleton is four and a half hours for me, so 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:35.959 easy trip if she wanted to make it. 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:41.240 And there's one goall online that you know, between some 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.280 misinformation and some fabrication. 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:51.280 It's unfortunate with Corey in Wisconsin, all of Jess's spies 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.479 on the ground and Wagner are useless. 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.400 So there was nothing, no neighbors to eyeball, Corey, nobody 0:21:58.760 --> 0:21:59.560 like nobody. 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.120 For all the frenzy of the early investigation, things now 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:09.200 start to slow way down. Summer turns into fall, turns 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:14.880 into winter with no update on Telena. COVID meanwhile continues 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.720 to lay siege to the country. By the end of 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.560 twenty twenty, deaths from the virus are still climbing, and 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:26.239 most public schools stay remote amid another COVID search. And 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.280 while there's some hope that life will eventually go back 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:34.720 to normal, the continued isolation, the high unemployment rates, the 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.679 uncertainty of it all is taking a toll. It's bleak 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.719 for Telena's family too. Here's Cheryl. 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:47.120 Mom and I read were talking. Mom said, she's not 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:51.240 coming back. I just know it. I just know what. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:52.760 They just have to find her body. 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.960 When she said it, I admitted, that's exactly what I 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.280 thought to him, that, you know, we didn't know what 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:06.480 in the world had happened to her, but we just thought, No, 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.200 it's bad, it's bad. 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:16.119 The Wagner police have also lost hope that they'll find 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:17.159 Teleina alive. 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.280 They had been down all the various things and it 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:26.280 was absolutely no trail over and admitted they were pretty 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.200 sure they were searching for a body, and they came 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.200 and they did collect some DNA. 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:31.880 Swaps from mom. 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.680 That was hard on her that she did it, of course, 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:37.520 because then it was she wanted her found. 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:38.480 She didn't want. 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:46.119 Her laying out someplace. We're in a fallow grave somewhere, 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:57.640 you know. She wanted her found. Good morning, I'm. 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:00.600 A Sheriff Chris Elliott with a Wager County sheriff office. 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:05.119 On January twenty second, twenty twenty one, more than nine 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:10.159 months since Telena disappeared, Wagner authorities addressed the public with 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:11.200 a big update. 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.320