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Speaker 1: Well, what's up. I'm Granger, I'm a man, I'm Tyler,

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Speaker 1: I'm Parker.

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Speaker 2: This is the ninety nine for one podcast where we

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Speaker 2: seek the one and equipped the ninety nine to do

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Speaker 2: the same. And this is episode what are we at?

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Speaker 2: Episode seven seven. I've enjoyed this, guys doing this for

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Speaker 2: seven episodes. I hope listeners have to. But I hope

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Speaker 2: that this is something we could do a lot. And

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Speaker 2: we've made up our mind in the very first episode

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Speaker 2: that we weren't going to worry too much about the

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Speaker 2: reach of this podcast as so much as we reach

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Speaker 2: one really, and that the Gospel is part of every episode,

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Speaker 2: and that we take kind of relevant topics life issues

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Speaker 2: and we look through a biblical lens at how to

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Speaker 2: approach them. Yes, which brings us to today. What we

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Speaker 2: got it?

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Speaker 3: We have a story. It is Wiley East High School.

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Speaker 3: We do this podcast from Central Tech and so get

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Speaker 3: a lot of Texas news.

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Speaker 2: And I grew up not too far from Wiley. Oh really, fact,

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Speaker 2: I used to sing at the Wiley Opry No maybe

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes from where I grew up.

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Speaker 3: So in relation to Dallas Fort Worth, where is Wiley

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Speaker 3: maybe which direction? It's it is Dallas for Dallas Fort Worth. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's been encompassed by that metroplex. Yeah, so we're talking

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Speaker 3: to northeast south North Yeah okay. An unnamed Wiley IOSD

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Speaker 3: employee has been placed on leave after an outside group

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Speaker 3: called Why Islam set up a table during lunch and

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Speaker 3: offered students Islamic materials, including copies of the Koran, pamphlets

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Speaker 3: about Shariah and hijobs or headscarves, candy, and promotional bags too.

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Speaker 3: The table was connected to a World Job Day. Is

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Speaker 3: that how you say it?

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Speaker 1: Hitjob? Yeah, hy job okay, a.

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Speaker 3: Hijob Day event promoted by the school's Muslim student association.

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Speaker 3: The district says bored policies prohibit distribution of any religious

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Speaker 3: materials on campus without prior approval. The group Why Islam

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Speaker 3: did not receive authorization to be there or to distribute materials.

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Speaker 3: The district only found out after a student's social media

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Speaker 3: video went viral showing the event, and a staff member

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Speaker 3: which the district calls a procedural breakdown. Fewer than fifty

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Speaker 3: students visited the table, only a small number took items

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Speaker 3: and tried on the scarves. The superintendent emphasized that the

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Speaker 3: issue is not about religion, but about procedures not being

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Speaker 2: Okay, So breaking this down in Wiley, Texas, there was

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Speaker 2: a school that allowed a group to come in. Islamic

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Speaker 2: the girls try on hit jobs. There's pictures of them

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Speaker 2: in that article. Yeah, questions about Islam, things like that,

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Speaker 2: and people got really upset when they find found out

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Speaker 2: about this. And and then somebody got fired. Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Somebody got it?

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Speaker 4: They put on leave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it says that an unnamed wily asked the employee

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Speaker 2: And according to the article, these people came in, they

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Speaker 2: they went through the security, did did everything they needed

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Speaker 2: get it, get it approved by the superintendent.

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Speaker 1: When you say that they went through, uh, well.

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Speaker 2: Like the normal screening. You go in and you signed

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Speaker 2: why are you here? And they said there were They

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what this podcast will be titled yet.

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Speaker 2: I have down I've listed like Texas Public School pushes Islam?

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Speaker 2: How should we feel? And I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: and Islam? Maybe pushed is too big of a word

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Speaker 1: So being allowed to proselytize? Basically?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I say that, And I think why this

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Speaker 2: That's what his job was. Not because of conviction, but

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Speaker 2: He is convicted because he's a brother of mine. But

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, protesters. And this is a country this is

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Speaker 2: So so my friend, he said, even teachers were like,

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Speaker 2: Probably Christians pushing against it, I don't know about It

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Speaker 2: would be interesting to see if there were any other

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Speaker 2: Like the same ones that push against the Ten but not.

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Speaker 3: Muslims, like a non Muslim, non Christian person.

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Speaker 2: Yea, the same one that pushed against Ten Commandments. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so where do we start with this?

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Speaker 4: I mean to start with why are Christians pushing against it?

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Speaker 4: What's wrong with it? Fear fear?

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Speaker 2: What fear of man, fear of control, fear of change,

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Speaker 4: So the Bible says, how many times, do not be afraid?

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Speaker 4: Do not fear? So that would be the obvious, the

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Speaker 4: obvious go to. But then it's like school isn't what

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Speaker 2: Okay. I thought about that before we started this podcast,

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Speaker 4: Like you don't know when you're sending your kids off

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Speaker 2: But if they're being prepared and equipped and told truth

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to say just the mom and

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Speaker 2: trust that the truth that you've you've given them will

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Speaker 2: give them strength through whatever they see. Because we're talking

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Speaker 3: Driving down the street over here is a mosque and

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Speaker 2: Would be inclined to say that there are churches just

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Speaker 2: And we talked about this a lot, don't we. It

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Speaker 5: Could it be helpful quickly too? And maybe this is

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Speaker 5: be helpful to quickly talk about what is Islam? And

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Speaker 5: why are people even concerned about it?

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Speaker 5: Are we concerned with are we just anti our kids

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Speaker 5: Like is it like, don't bring a hit job in.

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Speaker 2: very clear. Like I'm not just saying I think I'm speculating.

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Speaker 2: I could go get it and show you the highlighted

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Speaker 2: passages of live peaceably until this happens, and then destroy them.

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Speaker 5: So we can all agree that Islam is dangerous spiritually

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Speaker 5: and that is leading millions or billions to Hell every year.

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Speaker 5: So we can agree that it's dangerous in that.

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Speaker 1: But also add add to that anything outside of right.

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Speaker 5: That's so, That's what I was going to say, is

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Speaker 5: so should we feel about the same way with when

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Speaker 5: Mormon missionaries, which we would take everyone in this room

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Speaker 5: would take to be a false gospel or even you know,

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Speaker 5: atheist propaganda, or if some kind Buddhists come in and

451
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Speaker 5: they start handing out stuff from Buddha in public schools.

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Speaker 5: Is your point, aunt, that we may not get the

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Speaker 5: same animosity as like all of a sudden the Qur'an

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Speaker 5: in Islam?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's right on that. Yeah, our

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Speaker 2: our friends, our dear brothers and sisters in the LDS Church,

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Speaker 2: that many have been over here in this very room

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Speaker 2: with us. They're not starting any wars right well.

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Speaker 3: And I wonder if right if they look at if

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Speaker 3: if your Muslim friend thinks looks at Christianity the same

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Speaker 3: way he just described himself.

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Speaker 1: Are you not Muslim? Yes, but not mainstream?

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Speaker 3: Does he look at us and goes, you know, is

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Speaker 3: that how we look to him when we go well,

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Speaker 3: are I talk to a Mormon friend?

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Speaker 1: Are you not the same? No, we're not the same thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't go to Amber and I for our

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Speaker 2: anniversary ate some sushi, h you know, and there's Buddhist

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Speaker 2: statue in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 2: And I don't start to you know, get tense and

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Speaker 2: start to sweat thinking that maybe the people in here

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Speaker 2: that own this Buddha are going to chop my head off, right,

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Speaker 2: Not that I would in the Arabic restaurant either. I

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Speaker 2: love going there and it says Allah is God on

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Speaker 2: the on the wall. You know, it's a wonderful place

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Speaker 2: in ground rock and amber, and I like to go.

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Speaker 2: But it's the it's the misconception of part partly like

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Speaker 2: Tyler said, what the media said, and partly what that

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Speaker 2: the radical side of that is actually done.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta be honest about that too.

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Speaker 3: And the people who are in an uproar about what

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Speaker 3: happened in Wiley, Texas, what are you in an uproar about?

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Speaker 1: What are you upset about? Like that's that's what I

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Speaker 1: would be interested to know.

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Speaker 3: Like if those that are upset that they came and

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Speaker 3: set up a table, what is it that you're suit

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Speaker 3: that you're concerned about? And that's a genuine question, not

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Speaker 3: a not a trap. You know, it's not well if

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Speaker 3: you think this it's the you know, but is your

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Speaker 3: concern truly?

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Speaker 2: Because let me let me think what I think is

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Speaker 2: the concern is you see people coming into a public

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Speaker 2: school with with kids that are vulnerable, and they're teaching

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Speaker 2: them this mysterious way that I don't know a lot about.

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Speaker 2: But all I know is, you know there was bombers

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Speaker 2: and in nine to eleven that you know, flew planes

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Speaker 2: into towers, and and maybe this is the beginning, and

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Speaker 2: then then a mosque comes in, and then and then

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Speaker 2: pretty soon it's gonna look like Minnesota does right now,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be just absolute chaos. And we're

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Speaker 2: gonna stop this right now, you know. I think I

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Speaker 2: think that's where.

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Speaker 1: The fear comes in to plan a sleeper cell.

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Speaker 4: And w so they want you to think that it

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Speaker 4: was Muslim Muslims food planes into the different different episode.

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Speaker 6: We've now we've just marked up to two more episodes,

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Speaker 6: right I I want to say that I hope everyone

511
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Speaker 6: can recognize on this podcast what we want it to be,

512
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Speaker 6: truly is like four guys sitting around a campfire having

513
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Speaker 6: a conversation, four guys in a truck on a road

514
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Speaker 6: trip having a legitimate conversation.

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Speaker 2: We actually talked before. Well, it's got to have enough

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Speaker 2: for four seats. But and we want to invite our

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Speaker 2: listeners into that this is not a We're not we're

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Speaker 2: not talking heads that are that are giving you up

519
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Speaker 2: to date news. We we want to more so model

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Speaker 2: what it looks like for four brothers in Christ that

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Speaker 2: are imperfectly walking and following him and and seeking to

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Speaker 2: know more about how to how to live out the

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Speaker 2: example given to us by Christ, how to think with

524
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Speaker 2: the biblical lens, how to love our neighbor, and how

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Speaker 2: to obey his commandments. Right, that's what we want to

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Speaker 2: do here. Model is that you.

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Speaker 4: Need to highlight that m perfectly imperfectly yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: not perfect, that should be obviously anybody that we're very

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Speaker 4: impure highlight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's here's the pivot of this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Where do we stand with the Ten Commandments? The Ten

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Speaker 2: Commandments going into the I know where we stand with

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Speaker 2: the Ten Commandments? Where do we stand with the the

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Speaker 2: recent rule in Texas that they were they would be

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Speaker 2: hung on the walls of schools.

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Speaker 3: My first thought was awesome, cool, my daughter's going to

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Speaker 3: walk into school, she goes to public school, and there's

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Speaker 3: going to be some reflection of her faith in that room.

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Speaker 2: My initial thought was that, yeah, that's a good thought.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Barker Park are you going to send your kids

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Speaker 2: to public school? Have you thought about that? Your your boys.

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Speaker 5: Planning on homeschooling for or at least elementary school as

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Speaker 5: of now, and then they'll go to they're middle school

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Speaker 5: or high school at a big school as a plan

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Speaker 5: right now, just because we're blessed enough so that Amy

546
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Speaker 5: can stay home. And I completely understand lots of people

547
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Speaker 5: aren't like that, but Amy can't stay home, and she

548
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Speaker 5: really enjoys will enjoy and desires to disciple them and

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Speaker 5: teach them in that way, in a way that she

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Speaker 5: can control. And yeah, certainly does not harm any schools

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Speaker 5: having the Ten Commandments there. But there's also a danger

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Speaker 5: that can come with a society that is where Christianity

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Speaker 5: is cultural. And I think that there's a danger in

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Speaker 5: thinking that it's the public school system or some federal

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Speaker 5: agencies job to teach our kids of either who Christ

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Speaker 5: was or how to be good humans. And I just

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Speaker 5: think it's like a very American temptation that that we

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Speaker 5: can fall into to think that we we work our jobs,

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Speaker 5: we work hard, we provide for our family, and then

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Speaker 5: they go learn stuff somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I'm trying to think through my thoughts and

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Speaker 4: I agree with Aunt. It's like, yeah, it gives me

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Speaker 4: a good feeling. Ten commandments. But at the same time

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Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, man, I mean you're just equipping. It

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Speaker 4: starts at the house, it starts with the parents on

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Speaker 4: you know, Christ is the solid rock, the foundation. Everything

567
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Speaker 4: else is sinking sand. So it's like, if that's the

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Speaker 4: goal of Christ is the goal, Lord Willing, how do

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Speaker 4: you how do you teach your kids who Jesus is,

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Speaker 4: equip them with that that truth, and then send them out,

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Speaker 4: you know, because you can't protect them forever. You can't

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Speaker 4: hide their eyes from Muslim or all Buddhism, all these

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Speaker 4: other religions. It's part of me is like, yeah, show

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Speaker 4: it all to them. We know what the what what?

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Speaker 4: You know the foundation is right.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, like Maverick's about to start kindergarten.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what your plans are with him, but

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Speaker 5: if he was going to if he was going and

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Speaker 5: you knew that there was cically Islamic influences I'm talking,

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Speaker 5: or I don't know, or if you couldn't do a

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Speaker 5: private school, you know, he's got to go.

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Speaker 2: To public school.

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Speaker 1: Had a job to do.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't you have a desire to have a conversation?

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Speaker 1: Would you?

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Speaker 5: Would we have conversations with the school board depending on

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Speaker 5: how hard Islam was, like if it's if it's just

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Speaker 5: a booth or whatever, you know, but then you then

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Speaker 5: it's like, what do you think about l G T

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Speaker 5: b Q classes getting taught to children and you so

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Speaker 5: it's like, you know, with their little minds, Like would

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Speaker 5: would you guys honestly say you wouldn't have a conversation

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Speaker 5: with the school or something about.

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Speaker 4: You pray about it on your on your knees, like

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Speaker 4: you use discernment you have.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me say what I what I would

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Speaker 2: want to do with my kids? I would want to

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Speaker 2: talk to the school board. Yeah, but I want to

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Speaker 2: My argument would be for neutrality, not not for the

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Speaker 2: ten commandments in and the and the Islamic teachings out.

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Speaker 2: I would say all of it out. What's the purpose

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Speaker 2: of a school? What's the purpose of a public school?

603
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Speaker 2: To teach subjects relevant to worldly businesses and success in life?

604
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Speaker 2: Mathematics in which they don't do in science? How to

605
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Speaker 2: do your taxes?

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Speaker 1: How to do your taxes? That's a good class Number three, that's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you writing all these new topics.

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Speaker 5: They need to learn, like the mitochondria as the powerhouse

609
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Speaker 5: of the cell. That's just vital information like that.

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Speaker 2: But but if we want to fight for the for

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Speaker 2: the Ten Commandments in our schools, then we must be

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Speaker 2: able to be willing to let anything else come in.

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Speaker 1: That's just that's the tricky part. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 3: And that you I was saying that that was My

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Speaker 3: initial thought was that, oh cool, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: That is well, I agree with your initial thought.

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Speaker 3: And that was but that is the what comes around?

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Speaker 3: So are you saying around comes around.

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Speaker 4: What does religion have to do with school?

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Speaker 2: Like I'm saying what does religion have to do with school?

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Speaker 2: It's it shouldn't have a place learn. It shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: a place in public schools unless you're in a private school.

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Speaker 2: That's that leans that.

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Speaker 1: Way, But that's the foundation part of.

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Speaker 2: Like even the Ten Commandments thing is kind of scary

626
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Speaker 2: to me, Like what if the Ten Commandments are on

627
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Speaker 2: the wall and a kid goes, what is that teacher?

628
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Speaker 2: Are you going to trust whatever this teacher says?

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Speaker 4: The argument it gets that is like we're not schools

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Speaker 4: aren't set up to like genuinely teach kids how to

631
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Speaker 4: succeed and start businesses and do that. We're indoctrinated from

632
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Speaker 4: by the media. Again, what politics we should vote for,

633
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Speaker 4: what religion we should what God we should worship. It's

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Speaker 4: it's you know, it's just all out of our control.

635
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Speaker 4: Like I agree with what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Think think about the Ten Commandments out of context? Would

637
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Speaker 2: would be awful? Like what does that mean? It means

638
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Speaker 2: if you lie, you go to hell. Don't lie, you

639
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Speaker 2: go to hell.

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: What does the first one mean? It means love God

642
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Speaker 2: with all your heart and soul, like above all things.

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Speaker 1: Every Who's God? Who is God?

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Speaker 5: The Ten Commandments only condemns you.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's good news. Yeahs terrible.

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Speaker 5: It's just you have to obey this, and then people

647
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Speaker 5: just say, oh, forget it. I can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it could be the Ten Commandments could be

649
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Speaker 2: used technically worse.

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Speaker 5: Either it either creates a legalist, a legalist who's self righteous,

651
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Speaker 5: or it creates just a complete hedonis that says forget it.

652
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Speaker 2: And now it's the opposite way if you want to

653
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Speaker 2: look at it, like it helps society, Like Jordan Peterson

654
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Speaker 2: twelve rules for life type thing like, hey, try to

655
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Speaker 2: be truthful, don't don't be unfaithful to your wife, don't steal. Well,

656
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Speaker 2: these are things that can contribute to a better society.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the original intent of the Ten

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Speaker 2: Commandments going in right, like, hey, these these are fundamental

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Speaker 2: ideas that would really help society and kids should learn them.

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Speaker 2: But it is religious and it comes from the Bible,

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Speaker 2: and if you want to bring that in, then in

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Speaker 2: this country we have to be able to say, then

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Speaker 2: bring everything else in. And I don't want that.

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Speaker 4: So what brother, you can take out the Ten Commandments,

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Speaker 4: but don't you dare take out the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Speaker 2: Which is another religion in itself. Podcast for yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And for that flag.

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Speaker 1: So I think, all we can land this plane here. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is what this conversation is.

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Speaker 3: What you have when you do pass a law or

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Speaker 3: whatever happen to have the Ten Commandments in, is that

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Speaker 3: now you have a competing I would say, competing religion

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Speaker 3: or faith across the street from you or across the

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Speaker 3: lunch room from you.

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Speaker 2: It's like a job fair, it's like a religion.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, bring your religion. We're having on Thursday, we're having

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Speaker 1: a religion. Let the kids pick what they want, you know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it doesn't have a place in religion, doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a place in public schools, and and and so

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Speaker 2: what do we do well, Tyler said at the very beginning,

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Speaker 2: we need to be equipping our kids in our own

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Speaker 2: homes because it's not the government's job to teach your

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Speaker 2: children about God. It's it's your job as the guardian.

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Speaker 2: Once again saying guardian, because I don't know who's listening,

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Speaker 2: if it's if you're a single mom or a grandparent

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Speaker 2: or you know, ideally we think of the family. But

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Speaker 2: it's your job to train up a child in the

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Speaker 2: way that he should go and he will not depart

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Speaker 2: from it. That is not a teacher's job, right.

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Speaker 1: I agree. We'll get some comments. That's about yeah.

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Speaker 2: Comments here.

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Speaker 3: We also have nine one the podcast dot com. You

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Speaker 3: can also that's where you can ask a question if

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Speaker 3: you want to. It's something you don't want to leave

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Speaker 3: necessarily in a comment on the podcast, which we do.

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Speaker 1: Encourage the comments because we'll read some of those here too.

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Speaker 3: But had a question that I thought was applicable we

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Speaker 3: more people knew this now that this is completely separate

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Speaker 3: ninety nine for one podcast. We're having this question now.

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Speaker 3: I just found your channel and it's been a blessing.

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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it and pointing my friends and family to

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Speaker 3: your channel. Great podcast. I understand the ninety nine for

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Speaker 3: one and I love that. However, what does ye y mean?

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Speaker 3: And what is the story there? Thank you all for

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Speaker 3: what you do. We're covering you all in prayer that

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Speaker 3: you will continue to be a blessing and doing what

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Speaker 3: you all do for the cause of Christ. That's Kelly

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Speaker 3: listening or watching from Lull, Kentucky. So thank you Kelly

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Speaker 3: for dropping us that message the elevator.

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Speaker 2: Pitch uh Tyler Parker again?

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Speaker 1: What is he all right?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it's such a long go. There's a YouTube video

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Speaker 4: out there and it says, what do you mean? Honestly,

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Speaker 4: she would get a lot better.

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Speaker 1: In this video. I can link it is that today.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we need to do a new one, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: she'll get she'll get it off.

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Speaker 1: Send me the link for it and I'll put that.

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Speaker 3: So Kelly, if you will go in the In the

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Speaker 3: description of this podcast, I will put a link that

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Speaker 3: is just for you that goes to describe what.

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Speaker 5: The brand anthem video that we did last year would

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Speaker 5: be best.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Daniel said, pursue holding. Oh that's right.

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Speaker 3: I forgot and I forgot reading this as that was

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Speaker 3: the book last week.

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, pursue I like this. I really

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Speaker 1: want to pursue holding.

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Speaker 3: Last week was about cussing, So I think I might

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Speaker 3: have led a crumb bum slip last fall when I

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Speaker 3: missed a big Buck great episode.

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Speaker 2: Where's he from? If you guys can comment where you're from?

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Speaker 1: Some do he did not see?

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Speaker 2: You missed a big Buck teller?

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Speaker 4: No, just the feeling of that guy missing a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah uh Noah from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Love the way

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Speaker 3: these conversations challenge me and make me think about my

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Speaker 3: own life. I love that one I had one from

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Speaker 3: Tyler says pure holiness, not crumbum. Absolutely love this podcast.

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Speaker 3: It has definitely become one of my top five. I

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Speaker 3: listen at least twice to really soak in everything I

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Speaker 3: may have missed the first listen Thank you and look

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Speaker 3: forward to next week's episode as it has become something

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Speaker 3: to be excited for us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tyler, appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I love that comment so much. Man, that was so good.

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Speaker 1: Uh And if you're wondering what crumbum is, it means

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Speaker 1: you haven't watched the last episode, So go watch that

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Speaker 1: One's true.

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Speaker 3: Tandra said, love this episode. Especially loved the connection Tyler

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Speaker 3: made with the mouth being controlled by the heart and

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Speaker 3: how God gives us a new heart. Absolutely amazing. If

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Speaker 3: any of you get a chance, go watch Tim Hawkins's

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Speaker 3: comedy bit about alternative cuss words for Christians.

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Speaker 1: I missed that part of it.

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Speaker 3: We had on fire for him. Pure holiness. Hey it's

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Speaker 3: Marcus here from Manitoba. Interesting enough. My wife and I

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Speaker 3: had a little conversation about this topic last week about cussing.

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Speaker 3: I love to hear y'all's thoughts about this topic of

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Speaker 3: the truth from the word. Me and my wife are

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Speaker 3: both followers of Christ and both work at Christian businesses.

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Speaker 3: I'm currently in college studying the trade that I'm in

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Speaker 3: an amount and the amount of swearing and pervertedness of

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Speaker 3: speech and class is something I simply have not experienced before.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I have been equipped in this area.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the episode. Last one here is from Matt.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for another great episode. I originally thought, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't cuss, but I guess I'll listen to this

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Speaker 3: episode anyways because I like to listen to these guys.

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Speaker 3: You guys made some great points about heart, attitude and

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Speaker 3: other things that convinced me or convicted me about things

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Speaker 3: that have nothing to do with cussing.

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Speaker 2: So that's another point. We want to make it a podcast.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't always have to be about the topic that

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Speaker 2: you can get something from it. Yeap, let's do a

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Speaker 2: book giveaway. Well, then I'll wrap this thing up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well book here called family Worship.

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Speaker 5: I actually just read that one like a week two

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Speaker 5: weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: The second time we have we've only done seven episodes

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Speaker 2: in the second time I've done a Don Whitney.

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Speaker 4: Is that where you got the idea of playing the song?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome. Do you know what he does with David?

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 5: We just do an evening of family worship. It's like

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Speaker 5: probably like ten minutes long. We read, I just read

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Speaker 5: a story from the Child Story Bible that I have

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Speaker 5: for David. We pray briefly, we just go on a

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Speaker 5: circle and pray and then we watch a song on YouTube.

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Speaker 5: Everybody sings. It's like two or three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Once a week.

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Speaker 5: We do it every night, every night. Yeah, we just

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Speaker 5: worked into our evening routine. And one of the things

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Speaker 5: that I got from that book actually is if your

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Speaker 5: kids are I'm like, what's the point my son's too,

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Speaker 5: he's not going to get anything out of it. And

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Speaker 5: He's like, at the very least your kid will know that.

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Speaker 5: For whatever reason, we get together and Dad reads some

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Speaker 5: pages from this book. Every night, everybody closes their eyes

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Speaker 5: and talks for a minute, and then we all sing.

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Speaker 5: And I really like that part. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 5: what we're doing, but whatever it is, it must be

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Speaker 5: really important because we do it every night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that reframe my things.

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Speaker 4: Also, they pick a song that we're going to sing

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Speaker 4: in church, and when I was over there, it was

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Speaker 4: a John MacArthur, you know on YouTube, this song that

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Speaker 4: we're singing in church on Sunday. They would listen to

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Speaker 4: that every night leading up to it, and so David

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Speaker 4: excitement when they're there in church and like, oh, we're

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Speaker 4: singing it now in first and in church, everybody sees

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Speaker 4: there's other people singing, and there's other people this is

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Speaker 4: what we've been doing all week. It's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is I've really advocated for this for

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Speaker 2: a long time on this podcast, and it really comes

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Speaker 2: from this book. It's very short, sixty nine pages. It

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Speaker 2: looks like and like Parker said, it's about three minutes

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Speaker 2: of reading, about three minutes of praying, and about three

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Speaker 2: Ends up being about the time that is that a

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Speaker 2: kid can hold attention. And you like, we we read

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Speaker 4: This morning was.

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Speaker 2: I think we're in Luke Luke eighteen and we read

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Speaker 2: through just a just a short paragraph and we pray

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Speaker 2: through it from that specific passage. Even Maverick every and

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Speaker 2: and he's his like his language is is you know,

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Speaker 2: he says, Father, thank you for this passage, give us strength.

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Speaker 2: Like the words that come out of his mouth. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't even really understand exactly what he's sing but he

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Speaker 2: hears it every it's like the repetition of it. And

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Speaker 2: then we sing. In my version of singing is the

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Speaker 2: scripture songs that I've been writing, but but this is this.

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Speaker 2: If you were going to send your kid to public

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Speaker 2: school and you're worried about what might be taught in

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Speaker 2: that public school, if that's your only option, then you

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Speaker 2: could rest in your training up of a child through

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Speaker 2: family worship. The rhythms of the family. The rhythms of

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Speaker 2: family worship. Catechisms are a great thing. Maverick does cate

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Speaker 2: catechisms with amber and and he's out, you know, the

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Speaker 2: the the question and answer repeat, And you could ask

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Speaker 2: who made you? You go, God made me? He's so quick,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's got all the catechisms like the New

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Speaker 2: City I think it's called New City categorism. He's got

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Speaker 2: made me? Because it's just like a refin to him.

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Speaker 2: These are the ways that we train a child. And

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Speaker 2: I want to say, before let's give this away, comment

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Speaker 2: family Worship. Family Worship. We will sign this look and

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Speaker 2: we will mail it out. We'll pick a random commoner.

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Speaker 2: Go to the YouTube channel wherever you're listening. Go to

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Speaker 2: YouTube and comment family Worship. The YouTube is ninety nine

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Speaker 2: At the center of the Christian faith, at the pinnacle

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Speaker 2: of our faith, is a man, a sinless man, hanging

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Speaker 2: the degree that that truth takes root in our hearts

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Speaker 2: people that bear the image of our God that still

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Speaker 2: don't know the gospel that Jesus came to save sinners,

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Speaker 2: and he died on a cross, taking on the sin

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Speaker 2: days later, rose from the dead, proving his divinity as

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Speaker 2: the second member of the Trinity. The God had God himself,

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Speaker 2: as God's wrath was absorbed in his body, those that

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Speaker 2: look to him could be forgiven. And the more we

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Speaker 2: look to him as forgiven people, not people that look

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Speaker 2: to him, so that we can be forgiven, but people

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Speaker 2: that looked to him because we're already forgiven. The more

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Speaker 2: we remember that, the more we could see a mosque

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Speaker 2: and think, ah, people that I could the people that

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Speaker 2: don't know the truth yet, the more we could see

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Speaker 2: hear stories like this in Wiley, Texas and think, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that means that there are people not like me that

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Speaker 2: don't know Jesus moving into my neighborhood. I would love

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to invite them to dinner or to share

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Speaker 2: the gospel with them. Let's let's let the gospel as

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Speaker 2: it takes root in our heart drive us that direction,

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Speaker 2: not into fear and worry and anxiety and anger and

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Speaker 2: hatred and and and protest. Let's go, let's go the

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Speaker 2: other way into and to love our neighbor. Anything else

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Speaker 2: to add? Okayden, do we miss anything? Okay, we love

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Speaker 2: you guys. See you next Monday. Lord Willing