1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my partner in crime, 3 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. The Packers wrapped up their 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen season on Sunday at lambeau Field, and 6 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: to be brutally honest, it just wasn't pretty. Thirty one 7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: to nothing a loss to the Detroit Lions. The Packers 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: finished the season six nine and one. It's one of 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: these games that started poorly and just continue to get worse. 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers leaves with a concussion, backup quarterback to Shaun 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: Kaiser already in a fourteen to nothing hole, isn't able 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: to get anything going offensively, and the Lions just kind 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: of kept tacking on some points here and there, and 14 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: the result was actually the Lions first shutout of the 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Packers at lambeau Field since nineteen seventy if you can 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: believe that. Yeah, actually I looked that up after the 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: game last night. So um, yeah, just a rough way 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: to end what had been a rough season for Green Bay. Yeah, 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: there's no if fans or butts about it, Mike, and 20 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: not the performance the Packers were looking for, I said, 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: and Saturday's inbox and I mentioned it on Friday. You 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: wanted to finish strong. It was a pretty simple mindset. 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: You built some momentum winning two of their last three. 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: It was a small moral victory, but yet you got 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: the wins that you were looking to get. They just 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: were not able to carry it over. And once Aaron 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers left the ball game. I'm not saying that that 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: took anything out of the team or anything or it, 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: but it did, you know, I mean, you could just 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: see there was a deflating kind of aspect to it. 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: To Rogers credit, and Corey Linsley spoke about this in 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: the locker room afterwards. Rogers was was very emotional when 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: he got taken out of the game and had to 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 1: go back to get the concussion protocol to start that process, 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: and Lindsley said, I mean that really spoke volumes about 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: him and in some extent this Packers season, and that 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: the game was meaningless other than really draft position. That 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: was the one thing. You're trying to build some moral victories, 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: You're trying to get some you know, give you something 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: to feel good about going in the off season, but 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day in the win lost 42 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: column and had no bearing on what things are gonna 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: look like today, whether or not the Packers wanted lost 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: that game. Aaron Rodgers though, it was more than that 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: to him. He wanted to finish this thing on a 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: high note. It made David Bakti want to stay on 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the field. Corey Lindsley played every offensive snap. Those guys 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: were motivated to be out there. But at the end 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: of the day, you have to be able to play well. 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: You have to be able to win the game, and 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: the Packers just not did not do that against the Lions. Yeah, 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of a lot of disappointment in 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: terms of how this game went, and not not just 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: that Rogers left with a concussion. We haven't really been 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: given any updates on on that um in the concussion protocol, 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: Rogers doesn't speak to the media and and there haven't 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: haven't been any discussions of of how he's doing. But 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: when you look on the defensive side of the ball, 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about it, Wes. It just it 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: seemed like it seemed like this defense under Mike Petton 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: was was showing a lot of strides on a lot 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: of progress. And granted, they're playing with a lot of 63 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: young guys out there, a lot of backups, you know, 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: reaching into the depth, but so were the Detroit Lions 65 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: on on both sides of the ball, quite frankly, and 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: it just it felt like even the defensive side, which 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: I thought was was really the uptick for the Packers 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: this season in took a step backward as well. We 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: were seeing miss tackles and and just you know runs 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: by you know, let's face it, a number three running 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: back in Zach Center that he's just kind of pushing 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: the pile and the Packers can't get him on the ground. 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: And Detroit was really just controlling the line of scrimmage. 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: And it was the it was the kind of defensive 75 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: effort that we really hadn't seen because of the progress 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: that had been made, and and just everything kind of 77 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: took a step backward in this final game. I don't 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: want to disrespect anybody, because these guys are going out there, 79 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: they're laying it on the line. There was a young, 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: hungry players that were trying to prove themselves in this atmosphere, 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: but realistically, Mike and really the last forty five minutes 82 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: of regulation that ballgame, it almost seemed more like a 83 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: preseason game to me, just with the you know, the 84 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: guys that are being rotated in and you know, again, 85 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: I give credit to Capri Bibbs, I give credit to 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that have just been came 87 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: in within the last couple of weeks and have been 88 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, thrust on the field. But that isn't the 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: way that this team was set up back in September, 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: back in August, and unfortunately for them, just so many 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: different dominoes happened. Now, No, don't get me wrong, Packers 92 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: didn't play well. There's six nine and one. Because they 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: didn't play well. I I'm not gonna you know, think that, 94 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: oh just because you know, fifteen guys ended up on 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: I R and they went through all these things. This 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: is why they were Yeah, does it affect you, absolutely, 97 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: But it's a hundred percent injury rate, as everyone always 98 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: likes to say, every team deals with. The Packers were 99 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: not able to respond to it this season, but it 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: is I mean I looked at that defensive front. You 101 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: tip your cap to Tyler Lancaster, You tip your cap 102 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: to Dean Lowry. Those guys stepped their game up. Lowry 103 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: had the best year of his career in my estimation, 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: but they weren't the starting defensive alignment at the beginning 105 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: of the year. Kyler Facral stepped up, but you didn't 106 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: have Nick Perry. It's just it's one of those things 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: where it was a trick. It was a war of 108 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: an attrition for Packers this season, and in losing thirty 109 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: one and nothing in the end result in what the 110 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: product looked like in the players that were available in 111 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: that last one. Unfortunately for the Packers, it it was almost, 112 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: i think, to some extent of self fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, 113 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: and even from a statistical standpoint, a big letdown finding 114 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: out ninety minutes before kickoff that Davante Adams would not 115 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: be able to suit up for this week's seventeen game. 116 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: We had talked about it for, you know, all week long, 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: coming off the Jets game when he had eleven catches. 118 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: He needed two catches in a hundred and thirty four 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: yards to set a couple of single season franchise records. 120 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Certainly the opportunity would have been there, but the knee 121 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: injury from the Jets game just never, I don't know 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: what you want to call it. Never loosened up ever. 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: You know, the sore net didn't go away. Obviously, the 124 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: medical staff decided it was just, uh, there was too 125 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: much risk to put Davantae Adams out there in this 126 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: final game, as much as I'm sure he would have 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: wanted to play and finish this thing out and try 128 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: to get those records and uh. And that was just 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: another certainly disappointing footnote that that Davante Adams wasn't able 130 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: to finish a remarkable season for him in the way 131 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: that he would have wanted. Yeah, it was unfortunate because actually, 132 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, Adams when he was talking to his locker 133 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, I mean, everybody's gonna say they're gonna try 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: to play and they're optimistic, but Adams legitimately seemed like 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: he thought he was gonna be able to get through 136 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: this and be out there. Ye I, you gotta give 137 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: a lot of credit to Pat mackenzie and you know, uh, 138 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: Brian Angle, everybody on the training staff side of things. 139 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: They're doing the right thing for the player. You want 140 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: to protect him. There's a bigger picture and play here, 141 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: it's it's not you know, as far as win loss, 142 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: there's no implications there, I'll be honest, though, I still 143 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: wanted to see a quick wide receiver screen on the 144 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: first play and get him out of there if he 145 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: didn't have to catch the ball, and now he could 146 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: just whip it out of bounce right away after he 147 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: caught it and pull himself out for a hundred and twelve. 148 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: But um, now, I mean, they're they're not going to 149 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: cheat the system. If he's good to play, he's gonna play. 150 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: If he's not, he's not. What a heck of a 151 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: season though for him a hundred eleven catches, six yards, 152 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: thirteen touchdowns. Um, I think if you asked Davante Adams 153 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: and he wasn't in the final locker room session that 154 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: you and I were just a part of. But I 155 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: think if you ask him, I'm guessing he's not sweating 156 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: this because I think in his heart of hearts, he 157 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: thinks next year he's gonna come back and actually top 158 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: that record, maybe all three of them. Yeah, I mean, 159 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: who knows that the sky's the limit for this guy 160 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: in his career. Certainly another statistical note definitely worth pointing 161 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: out Kyler Factral gets the sack that puts him in 162 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the double digit category, and we finished the season with 163 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: ten and a half sacks, and um, you know, again, 164 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: as we've talked about throughout the year, a tip of 165 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: your cap to this guy. Because the fan base was 166 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: down on him, a lot of people outside the building 167 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: were down on him. He showed up in his third season. 168 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: A couple of three sack games certainly contributes a lot 169 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: towards a double digit sack season. But hey, anybody who 170 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: finishes with ten and a half, that's uh, that's something 171 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: to be proud of. And and hopefully it's just the start, 172 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg, as they say, maybe 173 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: for Kyler Facula. Yeah, he said we were. I was 174 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: talking with him in the locker room the final locker 175 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: room session. Uh. Yeah, he wants to do it again 176 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: next season. That's already his goal. He wants to sustain 177 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: that success. He wants to get better against the run. 178 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: Those are the challenges for him. There's a standard as 179 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: far as the pass rush he has to set, and 180 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: he knows that that getting better against the run is 181 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: is one of those things. On the gold I do 182 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: think he actually improved fastly in that capacity. This year. 183 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: You can tell he was stronger. He held the edge. 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's only you know Nick Perry. To me, 185 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: I think it is still the gold standard when he 186 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: comes to holding the edge when he's healthy in that capacity. 187 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: Because he's just such a big, powerful guy, it's hard 188 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: to move him off the spot. But I think Facral 189 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: at his size with what he brings also as a 190 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: zone dropper, he talked about that. I mean, one of 191 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: the things that I think rarely gets talked about with 192 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Facral's game is he might be the most natural 193 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: zone zone dropping outside linebacker they've had. I mean, he's 194 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: in the same breath I think with Clay Matthews in 195 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: that capacity when that's required of him to fulfill that assignment. 196 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: I was asking him though about this because he mentioned 197 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: I've kind of sort of become the beat writer for 198 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: these Mike Petton writing down your goal things at the 199 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, and it came up again. Facral 200 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: actually did have on his goal sheet for this year 201 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: what he talked about with Petton for double digit sacks, 202 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: and Bill Huber and I from Packer Report, we asked him, like, 203 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: you really thought that was an attainable goal. Uh, you 204 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: know you only had three and a half the year 205 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: before you had to I think the year before that 206 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: you thought that that was He's like absolutely, He's like, 207 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: that's why their goals. You want to set something up 208 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: for yourself that you want to strive for, regardless you 209 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: know of whether or not it's realistic, that's what you're 210 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: looking to achieve. So, while it was a very difficult 211 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: game on Sunday and very disappointing and disheartening to end 212 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: it on that note, Fatral said that that sack, when 213 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: he got it there, that held a lot of meaning 214 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: for him because it meant that he achieved that one 215 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: individual goal that he had for the season, and whether 216 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: or not he wants to admit it, he did silence 217 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a lot of doubters and critics and skeptics who some 218 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: were clamoring trying to say he shouldn't even be on 219 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: the fifty three this year. Imagine what happens if Brian 220 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Gooda Kunston that coaching staff doesn't have the faith that 221 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: they did in Facral to be there. He ended up 222 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: being their leading soccer in two thousand and eighteen and 223 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: one of only four guys Mike, I thought this was 224 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: a crazy stat. Only one of the four individuals over 225 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: the last decade that's had double digit sacks for this defense. Yeah, yeah, 226 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: the list, the list isn't that long. I mean some 227 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: of those guys with the double digit sacks, like Clay 228 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: Matthews and others have done it multiple times. And that's 229 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: the new challenge now for Kyler Facral to add himself 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: to that list of guys who not just do it once, 231 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: but but potentially do it again. Um quickly, here West 232 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: before I forget, the Green Bay Packers get ready for 233 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: game day with the powerful noise canceling technology of Bo's 234 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Quiet Comfort thirty five headphones. To learn more at www 235 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: dot bows dot com, Slash Packers, Bows the off shell 236 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: headphones of the Green Bay Packers, and at Homer. Here 237 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: in the stands, we all know that Green Bay fans 238 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: give it their all and that takes a lot of energy. 239 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: So grab a warm bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's 240 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: meaty goodness fuels the greatness of Packers. Fans everywhere tried 241 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: the delicious classic chicken noodle soup. Just visit your local 242 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: supermarket and ask for Campbell's Chunky Soup official sup partner 243 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers, and I actually have a 244 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: cup of that soup on my desk for you. For me, 245 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: it's still there. I received it for my birthday, but 246 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm willing to, you know, regift it if if it's 247 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: something that you want to have. Now you've got me 248 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: excited for lunch, so it's waiting for you, all right. Well. 249 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: As the Packers head into the offseason West, the big 250 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: story over the next several weeks will be the new 251 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: head coach and and the coaching search. We are going 252 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: to essentially table that discussion until a head coach is hired, 253 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: because we aren't going to hear from Mark Murphy and 254 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: or Brian Goudakun until that happens. It's a lot of 255 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: news reports out there about quest for interviews and guys 256 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: that the Packers want to talk to. I think you 257 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: and I have talked before. They might interview twelve fourteen, 258 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: fifteen guys here throughout this process before it's all said 259 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: and done. So um, those will be discussions for another day. 260 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: But I do want to get your thoughts on just 261 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: exactly what went down in Week seventeen in the NFL 262 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: with these last couple of playoff spots we saw in 263 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: the NFC, Um, my prediction was wrong. I thought the 264 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, We're gonna find a way to steal that 265 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: number six seed. But boy, that that Chicago Bears defense 266 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: went into US Bank Stadium completely throttled that Vikings offen. 267 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say this, the Packers offense playing on 268 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: the road at Soldier Field looked like it had a 269 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: much better shot to beat the Bears than that Vikings 270 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: offense that was in Minneapolis yesterday. Yeah. Absolutely, I do 271 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: want to point out I think I actually was right 272 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: on my prediction the Philadelphia Eagles squeaking into the playoffs. 273 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: You did, you called it? The Eagles get in, they 274 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: take care of business against Washington, shut them out to 275 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: be for nothing or whatever it was. And uh, the 276 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: Eagles and Nick Foles, they are the six seed in 277 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota's on the outside looking at. So obviously these are 278 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: professional football players, and I want to talk about the 279 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: Bears here in for a second. We'll get back to that. Um, 280 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm kind of taking this thing off the rails a 281 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: little bit, but it's the end of the season. That fun. 282 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: Did you see the thing about so Nick Foles ended 283 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: up getting kind of banged up. He had to with 284 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: like a rib injury or something. Right, it sounds like 285 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna be okay, but he had to come out 286 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: for a little bit. He had a clause in his contract, 287 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: again citing reports here, if he played thirty three of 288 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: the offensive snaps for the season, he got like a 289 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: one million dollar bonus. Now, hey, nick Foles is being paid. Well, 290 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to you know, no tears here or anything. 291 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: He was he had to go out of the game. 292 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: He was four snaps away, four kneel downs away from 293 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: being able to to get that to get that to 294 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: trigger that clause, and it is unfortunate, but hey, kudos 295 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: to him. He gets a playoff bonus. Now anyway, yeah, 296 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, here's an extra grant to enjoy yourself, go create. 297 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, Foles did what he does and 298 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: he's by far going to be the most intriguing free 299 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: agent this officer because there were some questions you know, 300 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: the season and go quite how they wanted to out 301 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: of the gate. It made it pretty clear that when 302 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was back, he was going to be the 303 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: guy again. But Nick Foles is reminding everybody that there's 304 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: still some magic left in those beans. So I mean, 305 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to see what can happen for him, 306 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: especially in what is going to be a quarterback star 307 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: of market. There's gonna be a lot of teams that 308 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: are looking for guys um, so that'll be fun to 309 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: watch to see where he can take this team in 310 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: the offseason. Going back to the Bears, hey man, I'll 311 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: tell you what. They remind me a lot of the 312 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Raiders from two years ago. I know the parallels there 313 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: with Kalio Mack, it makes sense, but when the Raiders 314 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: went twelve and four, this Bears team reminds me a 315 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of that. Now. Mitchell Trobinsky still has some room 316 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: to grow. He still has to protect the football, but 317 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: they're getting the running game going now. They are getting 318 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: their pass rush going now. And to go in there, 319 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: you and I have been in that environment. To go 320 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: in there and just extract all the energy out of 321 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: that building and dominate the way they did. I know 322 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of angry Packer fans out there rightfully, 323 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: so I get it their division rival, but the Bears 324 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: are playing some really entertaining football right now. Yeah, the 325 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Bears are playing some good football and that's gonna be 326 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: a really good wild card matchup at Soldier Field against 327 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. Quickly on the a f C side 328 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: of things, really entertaining the way this thing wrapped up 329 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: in the a f C North, because as I was 330 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: sitting at my desk working on our coverage on the 331 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: website post game after the loss to Detroit, I've got 332 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: my phone set up next to my computers, you know, 333 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: so I'm watching UM. I was watching Bears and Vikings 334 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: for a while, and then I flipped it to watch 335 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: the end of the Ravens Browns game and the Steelers 336 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: who need to win, and they need the Browns to 337 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: beat the Ravens in order to win the a f 338 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: C North to get in. The Steelers win on a 339 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: walk off field goal, and then they're showing these clips 340 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: of the Steelers players at Hines Field. They don't leave 341 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: the field, they don't go to the locker room. They're 342 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: out there standing on the sideline anywhere on the field 343 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: with the fans why ching on the JumboTron as the 344 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: as the Browns and Ravens game comes to a close, 345 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: the Browns are down by two. They have the ball, 346 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: they get across midfield, a couple of replay reviews on 347 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: receptions catch no catch kind of stuff go, both of 348 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: them go Cleveland's way, and they're about five to six 349 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: yards away from a legitimate long field goal shot to 350 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: win the game by one point. And it comes down 351 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: to a fourth and ten. There's just a little too 352 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: far for the field goal. They had to go for it. 353 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: The Ravens end up getting the stop, so Baltimore wins. 354 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: The a f C North Pittsburgh is is out of 355 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs. The drama there to me, you know, and 356 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: people talk about wanting to expand the playoffs and let 357 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: more teams in or whatever. The way that finished for 358 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: the a f C. Other than having the Ravens and 359 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: Steelers go head to head for the division title, it 360 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that. I thought it was 361 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: a fantastic I thought it was a fantastic finish to 362 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: uh two week seventeen in the a f C. Well, 363 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: and the thing I love about it too is so 364 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: many fans we dealt with this a lot in in 365 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: bout We're talking about what's the point of trying to 366 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: win out this stretch? Look at what the Browns did 367 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: the last month of the season. They're going to get 368 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: a new head coach, it appears. I mean, I guess 369 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: Greig Williams is still in that conversation, but that franchise 370 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: right now, Man, they are not going in next year 371 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: with winning aspirations they have are going in with playoff 372 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: you know, run aspirations, no estructure. They're gonna be fired up. 373 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: The question I guess I have for you the watching 374 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: this game is what Lamar Jackson doing? Is that tenable? 375 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Do you think? Because I mean he's carrying the ball 376 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: twenty times a week right now, He's getting more carries 377 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: than the average NFL running back that's starting in the 378 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: NFL right now. Yeah, I mean that's the thing. If 379 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: you want, if you want Lamar Jackson to have a 380 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: quote unquote long career in the NFL, I just don't 381 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: see how you can continue to play. Maybe it works 382 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: right now when he's a rookie and he's young, but 383 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: by the same token West, we all saw what happened 384 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: with r G three. He was playing the same way 385 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: he's on the rest and yeah, but suffered, you know, 386 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: in new horble injuries after getting the Redskins to the 387 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: playoffs his rookie year, and he was the talk of 388 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: the town in d C. And Washington was back and 389 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, but then health wise it 390 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: didn't work out. I mean, there's a there's a huge 391 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: risk to playing this way. Right now, Baltimore is playing 392 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: this way and they're gonna take their best shot because 393 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: they have a running quarterback, they have a defense that's 394 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: as good as any in the league, if not the 395 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: best in the league, and they're gonna take their chances 396 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: and see what happened. And I'll tell you what, man, 397 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: there is no better mid major college offense right now 398 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: than what the Ravens are doing. I mean, it is 399 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: forty seven carries yesterday for Twitter at ninety six yards. 400 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: You had Gus Edwards and Kenneth Dixon both had twelve 401 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: carries in that game. I mean, I'm excited to watch 402 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: him in the playoffs. Hey, I talked on Friday right about, Hey, 403 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: I want some entertaining football games to watch. You got 404 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: Indianapolis squeaking with Andrew Luck. You got Baltimore playing the 405 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: way that they're playing in Philadelphia looking to keep that 406 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: magic going against Chicago. This this false first slate of 407 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: wild card matchups is gonna be to watch. Yeah, well, 408 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: right after the new year, you and I are going 409 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: to do another show here on probably on Wednesday, and 410 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a look at the whole playoff picture, 411 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: lay it all out, maybe see what other terrible predictions 412 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: I can make and and good ones that you can 413 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: make here about that the month of January. But uh, 414 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: we will get to that in a couple of days, 415 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: and for now, we're going to call it a wrap 416 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 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