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Speaker 1: I never told you a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome. I'm up to another classic today. I thought

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Speaker 2: we would bring back the one we did that I mistitled.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I look back at these and I'm like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: I was having a good day when I did that

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Speaker 2: on women and Reddit. I just I just put like

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Speaker 2: sminty women and Reddit. Oh just not Yeah again, I

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Speaker 2: don't have spell check. This is another issue I've had

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Speaker 2: in my life for a long time, and I need

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Speaker 1: I know, I know you. It's okay, thank you. I

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Speaker 2: But we've been talking a lot because our social media

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Speaker 2: Reddit is kind of seeing an up an upswing more

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Speaker 2: although I did find out recently one of my best

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Speaker 2: and I have more strength than I do. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you know, there's definitely still issues with it. I

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Speaker 2: how that plays out. Also, Reddit became public for a

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Speaker 2: Reddit doesn't really make a lot of money from what

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Speaker 2: I understand, it does have ads, and after we did

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Speaker 2: but I thought we'd bring this episode back in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: so please enjoy. Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and

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Speaker 2: welcome to Stephan Never told You. A production of iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: and today. I don't think we really have a content warning,

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Speaker 2: including some quotes that I find very infuriating, but nothing

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Speaker 2: to to in depth because today we're talking about Reddit.

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Speaker 1: Oh Reddit, Yes, and we're doing kind of.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't planned, but we have a lot of technology

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Speaker 3: It's kind of how our minds go from we should

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And one thing I've found in researching this is

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Speaker 2: ask you, Samantha, what is your experience with Reddit.

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Speaker 3: of women in porn. Some revenge videos have been posted

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Speaker 3: and monetized without the women's consent, which still is a

434
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Speaker 3: conversation because it's still not been a fully addressed. This

435
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Speaker 3: trade in nudes is called collector culture. There's a horror

436
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: movie about that, folks. Yeah, and many of these pictures

437
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 3: often come with personal information like social media handles and addresses.

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Speaker 3: Holy crap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gross. And scary. Okay, so this brings us

440
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: to am I the Ass. Reddit is kind of famous

441
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Speaker 2: for hosting a lot of so called nice guys. And

442
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Speaker 2: you know that's the guy who claims he's so nice,

443
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: he does everything right. Why are women denying me in

444
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Speaker 2: a romantic relationship?

445
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Speaker 1: And then everyone's like, the way you're terrible.

446
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're demanding someone like you because you're seemingly nice.

447
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: But if you have to say you're nice, yeah, probably

448
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: not true.

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00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. And I feel like this is that's part

450
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Speaker 2: of what I had. And again I have friends who

451
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: are women who love read it. This is just like

452
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: my outsider. I don't know what for some reason I

453
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: thought this, but I was like, oh, that's where the

454
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Speaker 2: nice guys go.

455
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Speaker 1: And I feel like, am I the Ass has.

456
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Speaker 2: Become a lot of calling that out right, and we

457
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Speaker 2: have a lot of examples for it. Okay, So from

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Speaker 2: a Guardian article about a man in his thirties who

459
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Speaker 2: frequented the red pill. So we're going to go through

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Speaker 2: some of these am i ass posts and oh my goodness,

461
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Speaker 2: oh my goodness. All right, so here's the quote Morpheus Manfred,

462
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: having spent my twenties looking for female companionship. I noticed

463
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: that the dating game wasn't what I was taught, what

464
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: my parents prepared me for, and what I learned from movies.

465
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: It was stacked against guys, and it was a very

466
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Speaker 2: unpleasant experience. Over the past ten years, the flickiness of

467
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: women has gotten worse. You'd meet a girl, hit it off,

468
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: get her number, and agree to date, and either she'd

469
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: no show or cancel right before I found myself putting

470
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Speaker 2: in all this effort for nothing. It was very defeating.

471
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Speaker 2: It's not the way courting worked when my parents met.

472
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: What I saw in movies. We're having a good heart

473
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Speaker 2: and being yourself as all you need. That's not what

474
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: happens now. Good and nice guys aren't attractive anymore. The

475
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: manosphere fundamentally became a surrogate father for the life lessons

476
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: I never got. So this man this actually was not

477
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Speaker 2: from am I the asso. They were interviewing people about

478
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Speaker 2: why did you get involved in this manosphere space? And

479
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: so this was a quote from this user about it.

480
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: And it was an interesting article because some people made

481
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Speaker 2: the point like maybe you know a lot of these

482
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Speaker 2: dudes just need the sounding board to get it off

483
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Speaker 2: their chests.

484
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: And move on. But a lot of them don't.

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Speaker 2: And that's something that we've talked about before, and this

486
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: whole like overall mindset like maybe, yeah, you just say

487
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: that and get it off your chest and move on.

488
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: But I feel like what we're talking about here is

489
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: a bigger problem of how we think society should function

490
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: and where women the roles women should play.

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Speaker 3: Right, and then also the ones that will play those

492
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Speaker 3: roles don't meet your expectations because of A, B and

493
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: C that you have placed upon that that's all different conversation,

494
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Speaker 3: but yes.

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00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And so like this whole idea has gotten

496
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 2: intertwined with am I the Ass And that is one

497
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Speaker 2: of the reasons, as we said, we want to talk

498
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Speaker 2: about this because that supreddit is so popular and it

499
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: has taken off, and as you said, it's got podcasts

500
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: and Twitter handles and all the time I'm hearing like

501
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 2: did you see this am I the Ass? And as

502
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: I said, it's really highlighted a lot of sexism going

503
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Speaker 2: on and perhaps particularly in hetero relationships. And basically, yeah,

504
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: if you haven't heard of it, it's a forum where

505
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: people post problems or disagreements they've had with others and

506
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: ask if they're the villain in the story, like am

507
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: I being unreasonable? Or is the other person or party

508
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Speaker 2: being unreasonable?

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Speaker 3: Again, this is one of the only things that I

510
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: look at when I'm looking at read it, and typically

511
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: i'll look at it through Twitter and or again a

512
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: podcast that pops up from TikTok, my God, Everything's Inner

513
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: splices it. But then I will go and check it

514
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: out and see what the comments are saying. Typically if

515
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: they have comments coming back, like there's some that's like

516
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 3: really entertaining. That's where George's the Cat came from. If

517
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: you follow them on Twitter, who is a union loving

518
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: a radical cat? Fantastic? But it started off with the

519
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: fact that the coworker wanted to butter the cat. And again,

520
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: if you haven't read it, you should. I remember when

521
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: it first came out and everybody was on Twitter just

522
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: losing their mind because they're like, this has to be fake,

523
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: this has to be fake. And to that point, like

524
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Speaker 3: George has now like thousands and thousands of followers and

525
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: it's getting one to fights with people, and they also

526
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: had a problematic issue just recently. But hey, that's a

527
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: whole different conversation. It has all of these aspects to that.

528
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: But then you have the ones that are super serious,

529
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: to the point that people were like, oh, yo, you're

530
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: gonna get murdered. Leave. How these posts go is literally

531
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: goes me. And then they give the age and their gender,

532
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: my husband or my partner age gender, explains the story.

533
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: You can write assole, not the ass. You're both asked

534
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: kind of the ass kind of thing, or these other

535
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: person is the ass. Like they give you these options,

536
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 3: which is nice, and then you explain things. But this

537
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: one woman that I read through was like really horrifying

538
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: the fact that her husband's younger brother was very co

539
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: dependent on them, very needy, and there's something kind of off.

540
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Turned out he was peeing on her stuff. We're pretty

541
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: sure he abused the cat, all these things, and then

542
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: they found him, like he got kicked out, and everybody

543
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: felt sorry for him. The mother felt sorry for him,

544
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: like the mother was enabling this younger brother, and everybody's like,

545
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: you don't need to worries, not a big deal. Then

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00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: later on they find her picture posted in his room

547
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: with like all these marks on it and like he

548
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: had collected and stolen things from her with intent that

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Speaker 3: he was going to hurt her, and then somewhere along

550
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: the lines, a niece came in, a young niece, like

551
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: preteen niece came in the picture and he was like.

552
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: Everybody was like, Okay, yeah, there's something wrong with this guy.

553
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: And this woman would come back with follow ups and

554
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: updates about it, and then the last thing we find

555
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: out is that he has been given a restraining order.

556
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: That was a huge fight and he is now under

557
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Speaker 3: supervision because people were seriously scared, and I think the

558
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: cat didn't make it like it was this whole thing.

559
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: I was very upset. I think the people were so upset.

560
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: But you have serious things like this, and a majority

561
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Speaker 3: of the am I asked posts are about relationships, as

562
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Speaker 3: you said, and a lot of it has like in

563
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Speaker 3: law relationships, sister relationships. One of those was like talking

564
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 3: about the fact that a sister in law, god, there

565
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: was a lot of in laws, was making fun of

566
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Speaker 3: the husband who that was the in law who is

567
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: a chef and she is a chef and he's an

568
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Speaker 3: Asian chef, and she went in with making racist comments

569
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Speaker 3: about him being an Asian chef, to the point that

570
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Speaker 3: she got fired because like she worked at a training

571
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: like I think she worked at an Asian fusion restaurant

572
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: and she was making fun of Asian cooks, so it

573
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: was like, oh damn, and she was not Asian. I

574
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: think she was white from the post and it divided

575
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Speaker 3: the entire family. And apparently the parents got divorced because

576
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: the mother was enabling like it was or the father

577
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: was enabling the child. And that's where the racist like

578
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: came from, where racism was learned from. I guess, like

579
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: it was a whole thing and it just killed their relationship.

580
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: But you have advice in the columns like that, But

581
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: a lot of these are women coming and asking about

582
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Speaker 3: advice about their relationships and whether or not oftentimes am

583
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: I being cheated on? Was? Is kind of the conversation

584
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: and about emotional affairs. It's the whole thing. But what

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00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: I've repeatedly seen is like the fact that they will

586
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: write these posts and people thought about like, you're not

587
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: the ass, but you need to leave because he is awful.

588
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: These are red flags. This is not going to change.

589
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: These are things blah blahlah blah, to the point like, yeah,

590
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: all of the answers are typically yeah, you're not to

591
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: ask to get a divorce, get a divorce, get a divorce.

592
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: But some of these have been really empowering because a

593
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: lot of the women come back with thank you so

594
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: much for your advice. This really helped me see some

595
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: things I didn't really you know, think about this, and

596
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: you're right, this is going to be a bad thing,

597
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: and I need to lead like it was just a

598
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: whole thing. And the reason you and I were talking

599
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: about Reddit to begin with this because I've been seeing

600
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: more and more where women are coming to find a

601
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: crew of people to tell them what they can't see

602
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: for themselves in the middle of the situation, and it's

603
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: seemingly fairly empowering, especially the way they're c having this

604
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: conversation and really hopefully rectifying the situation. Of course, there's

605
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: others where like the partners have seen it and they

606
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: respond and that's a whole drama, and so.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's good to hear.

608
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm heartened to know that it's mostly people being like, hey,

609
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: you should get out instead of you know, a lot

610
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: of the victim blamings if we see yeah all the time,

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00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying, you know, every post is the same,

612
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: but you know, because I would hate for somebody to

613
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: be in a vulnerable situation, and you're getting all these

614
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: Internet people making it worse.

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy to hear.

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Speaker 3: Typically I have not seen that as of yet.

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Speaker 2: We do have some examples that we want to go over.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Okay, so here's a quote from medium

619
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Speaker 2: about this whole thing. It being am I the ass

620
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: is a microcosm of gendered entitlement, the story of American sexism,

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Speaker 2: told post by post. There's the guy furious with his

622
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Speaker 2: girlfriend for dressing up for a work soon, because how

623
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: dare she look nice for anyone but him? The husband

624
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: who wants to forbid his wife from breastfeeding in public,

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00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: The man who is mad that his wife, who has

626
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: just given birth, doesn't dress sexy anymore, and of course,

627
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: the one who feels betrayed that his wife keeps her

628
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: own savings account. There's the man who needs complete silence

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Speaker 2: from his stay at home wife and two toddlers while

630
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: he works from home because quote, it's her job to

631
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: be silent and shut the kids up. The husband who

632
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: refuses to do any domestic work at all because his

633
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: wife isn't asking nicely enough. He also seems to think

634
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Speaker 2: his wife has a natural predilection for thankless activity. She

635
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: doesn't really rest, he wrote, that's.

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Speaker 1: Not her thing.

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00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: The guy who wants his girlfriend to sell her house

638
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: because she bought it with money she earned while stripping.

639
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 2: And the man who walked out literally on his wife

640
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: when she got an ovarian cancer diagnosis. I had begged

641
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: her to have kids since we were twenty six, but

642
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: she refused for her career, he wrote, as a justification

643
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: for storming out of the doctor's office. It's not just

644
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: the stories themselves and how obviously awful they are that

645
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: stand out. What makes am I the Ass such a

646
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 2: special look into gender dynamics is that the men who

647
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: describe awful scenarios truly don't believe they've done anything wrong.

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00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: Sexism has fully lulled them into a sense of moral

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00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: superiority that blinds them to their own explicitly terrible behavior.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and a lot of these. When you read it

651
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: or like this has to be made up, please told

652
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: me this is made up, because you really that blind

653
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: to see it this way. We had one where the

654
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Speaker 3: woman was getting married picked out a dress his mother

655
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Speaker 3: because I love and law stuff. His mother didn't like

656
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: it and picked out another one and asked her to

657
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Speaker 3: get that one, and his excuses she doesn't have a daughter. Ohoes, oh,

658
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: and then she said, no, this is my dress. I

659
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: love it, and behind her back he took it and

660
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: exchanged it for the one that his mother picked out. Oh,

661
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Speaker 3: and couldn't figure out why she thought it was a

662
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: big deal. Wow wow, Yes. So here's another example outside

663
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Speaker 3: of that one from Selon could a poster named Away,

664
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Speaker 3: performer on the popular am I the ass Ai Ta subreddit,

665
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: complained that his neighbor wouldn't cook dinner for him, which,

666
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Speaker 3: by the way, I did read this. After explaining that

667
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 3: he's a thirty one year old single guy who doesn't

668
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Speaker 3: know how to cook, Away went on to write that

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Speaker 3: he has noticed that his neighbor, a woman named Katie,

670
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Speaker 3: cooks frequently and quote, it always smells amazing. So I

671
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: got the idea this is him, that I'd offer to

672
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Speaker 3: give her some money each week to cook a little

673
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: extra and bring it over to me, he continues. Unsurprisingly,

674
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: Katie said no, but Away was undeterred, asking quote if

675
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Speaker 3: she was sure, and upping the amount I was offering

676
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: until Katie realized the polite deferrals weren't getting the job. Done,

677
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: she said, I should get a housekeeper if that's what

678
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Speaker 3: I want. I remember seeing this and it was hilarious

679
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Speaker 3: that he kept defending this.

680
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Speaker 1: What a thing to ask somebody.

681
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: Asking once maybe'd be like, hey, can I pay you?

682
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Speaker 3: Because this was awesome, but then to continue as if

683
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: like that one no should have made it awkward and

684
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: you should never want to see her again and you

685
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 3: should hide. Yeah, exactly, like never, like try to avoid

686
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 3: it at all cost, never leave the house again.

687
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Speaker 2: And the interesting thing about this one, this whole article

688
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: from Salon was about specifically cooking and ideas men seem

689
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 2: to have around women and cooking, and it included quotes

690
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: from women on other subreddits about how their boyfriends expect

691
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: them to cook or gave up cooking after they got married,

692
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: like perhaps they have cooked before marriage and then stopped

693
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: after they got married. One redditor told his girlfriend, I

694
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: honestly wouldn't mind having a housewife, and that she should

695
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: do that because while because she is quote certainly not stupid,

696
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: but isn't quite on my level. On top of that,

697
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: many of these posts showcase that men expect women to

698
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: cook from a young age, but to their standards and desires,

699
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: so like not what the woman who is cooking wants.

700
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Speaker 2: They want you to cook, they want the men want

701
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: you to cook what the men want, which I have

702
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: witnessed before in my life. The article also cited a

703
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Speaker 2: study that that married women do more domestic work than

704
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Speaker 2: single women, despite the fact that they have a partner who,

705
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: in theory, should be shouldering half the weight. And yes,

706
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: even women with jobs, and even women who are the

707
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: only ones in the relationship with jobs.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Another quote from the article quote perhaps the most

709
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Speaker 3: boneheaded was the redditor who up top denies that he

710
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: is a quote sexist asshole, but is mad because his wife,

711
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: a stay at home mother of two who did not

712
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Speaker 3: think it romantic that he enrolled her in quote into

713
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Speaker 3: a couple's cooking course with me as an anniversary present

714
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Speaker 3: so she could quote learn to cook properly. No. Oh,

715
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Speaker 3: there was also one about like bringing up them again,

716
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Speaker 3: the mother bringing up his mother into like like comparing

717
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Speaker 3: in her nagging. Oh it was the whole thing.

718
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, here's another quote. One dditor who wrote in

719
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Speaker 2: who was clearly excited to be engaged to a woman

720
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: who loves too and cares a lot about health, so

721
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: she makes a lot of stuff from scratch that we

722
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Speaker 2: both eat and quote. Her place is super nice while

723
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: his is a mess. But when he swung by her

724
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: place one day quote to take some leftovers from home

725
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: for lunches, he discovered, to his outrage, my girlfriend has

726
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: a cleaning lady she never told me about. He unleashed

727
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: in her, saying I felt betrayed because I always thought

728
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: it was great that I was marrying someone super tidy

729
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: to balance it out by which he means to clean

730
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Speaker 2: up after him. And even though she tried to placate

731
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Speaker 2: him by saying it frees up more time to cook

732
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Speaker 2: stuff from scratch, he was furious that she hired someone

733
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Speaker 2: to do something she could do herself. Luckily, the other

734
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: editors called him out, saying, this sounds like you were

735
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Speaker 2: getting married to get yourself a maid.

736
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Speaker 3: Noo, no, wow, yep, wow wow wow wow.

737
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Speaker 2: And yeah, as you said, from these articles, I read

738
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Speaker 2: about it, and all these instances were highlighting that hadling

739
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Speaker 2: and you could follow many of the comments.

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Speaker 1: Do rightly call out these things?

741
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, like, I don't know if it's

742
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: just the way it's set up or what. But the

743
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Speaker 3: majority of the people who are voting and are commenting

744
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: are those who are in support of typically the right,

745
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: meaning whoever's obviously the ass you can kind of see it.

746
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: There's sundays like hmm, they could both be the asshole here,

747
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: like communication issues or whatever whatnot. But for the most part,

748
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: and again like the things that are posted on Twitter

749
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Speaker 3: are not always the things that are posted because they

750
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: have tons of injuries, by the way, tons and tons

751
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 3: and tons. So it's good to see that though, I'm like, oh, yes,

752
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: because a lot of these like the minute you read it,

753
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: your blood boils and you're ready to fight, fight somebody.

754
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: Oh and all the means that come out of these

755
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: and gifts okay, just kiss okay.

756
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Speaker 2: And then, in a similar vein to all of this,

757
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: here's a quote from a She Knows article. One writitor

758
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Speaker 2: opened up about this process, sharing that her extremely hygienic

759
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: more on that later partner was horrified by the period

760
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: underwear she keeps on deck for when she's bleeding each

761
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Speaker 2: month and insisted she throw them out.

762
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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 2: He came across one of my pairs of panties that

764
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: I specifically only wear during that time of the month.

765
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Certain ladies will understand that we keep panties separate for

766
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: periods than we do for when we aren't. AKA, I

767
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: have my ugly or maybe bloodstained pairs for my period

768
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: a my cute and well kempt ones for when I'm

769
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: not on my period. Anyways, upon seeing these, he told

770
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: me that I need to throw that pair away and

771
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: that it's disgusting and unhygienic. He made quite a few

772
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: comments about how gross they are, despite them being clean

773
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: but just bloodstained from a previous period spotting situation. She

774
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: went on to say that when she tried to explain

775
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: that these are cleaned if a little stained pears that

776
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: exist for the express reason of getting stained, think a

777
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 2: T shirt you wear for painting the house or doing yardwork,

778
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: he responded poorly and made her feel terrible. He also

779
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: tried to claim that he was pretty sure other girls

780
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: people with periods don't do that.

781
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: Oh, he needs to be single forever, just to be

782
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: single if you especially you know, if you're dating women.

783
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: I found it funny because there was another post similar

784
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Speaker 3: to this, not exactly where she had gone on first

785
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: or second date new dates. She'd gotten on her period,

786
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: so she needed a tampon. Uh, so she used, you know,

787
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: her applicator, she put it in. I believe she put

788
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: it in her and wrapped it up. You know, if

789
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: you've used a tampon, you know what I'm talking about.

790
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: You can get back in the wrapper and if you're embarrassed,

791
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: you hide it because you try to do all the things.

792
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: And then you know, in the trash can. Apparently the

793
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: dude dug in his trash found it and told her

794
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: that she was not welcome and that she should not

795
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: have put that in her in his trash can.

796
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

797
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: And she was like what she was upset that she

798
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: threw away in the trash gear, Oh my gosh, properly. Also,

799
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Speaker 3: he wouldn't dug through It's yeah, whole thing.

800
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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of these are showcasing.

801
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: The stupidity of men.

802
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but also how much generalized statement men women

803
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: are expected to hide, Like everything we're expected to hide,

804
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: how much work it takes to do something. We're expected

805
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: to hide These totally normal body functions were expected to

806
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: put up with your the dude's mom wanting this dress,

807
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: and that means that you don't matter in this equation

808
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: even though it's your dress. Like, I feel like there's

809
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: so much stuff where it's like what you want doesn't matter,

810
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: and hide from me anything that I don't want to see.

811
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean there's a lot that you were like, wow,

812
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: you really thought this was real life? Who really thinks

813
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: that this is what happens? Like you really want the

814
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: Disney version of a princess from the nineteen sixties?

815
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, they want it's I mean it's like a

816
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 2: mom or a maid or exactly based on these popes.

817
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: That's just the vibe I'm.

818
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Speaker 3: Getting, right, And I will say, like, it's not all

819
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 3: like that. We've talked about many things. I just read

820
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: one about a man who wanted to make his own

821
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: birthday came she got upset and there was this whole

822
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: like in between line and she was absolutely in the wrong.

823
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: But like, there are other conversations that are had that

824
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, huge red flags. At least human decency

825
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: seems to be central in many of the followers and commenters.

826
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. I'm happy to hear that.

827
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: And just some brief like wrapping up comments because you know,

828
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: we focused on a lot of the grim stuff, but

829
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of really great stuff about Reddit.

830
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: It really is, and this misogyny that we have been

831
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: talking about harms everyone, and Reddit has in cases like this,

832
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: perhaps shone a light on it. And it impacts how

833
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: women in non binary folks interactor don't on this platform.

834
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: It influences other offline behavior. But yeah, it is not

835
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: all bad at all.

836
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Speaker 3: Right, And as in fact, when you read through some

837
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: of the statistics, again the sea is not great higher

838
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: than other platforms. That's really disconcerting in itself, but a

839
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: lot of it also has found homes for communities that

840
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: are really, really genuinely great. We talked about the aunties

841
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: helping people in the anti abortion things that are happening

842
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: in the US, and we've talked about that this is

843
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: such a great idea. Again, a lot of these good

844
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 3: intentions can be harmful, so you have to be careful

845
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: with that. But a lot of these also come together,

846
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: like with the voting things, they've had conversations about trying

847
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: to link people in order to get the right access,

848
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: the right communications. So Reddit is can be an amazing

849
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 3: thing again, great dog videos, great contagious laughter videos, other

850
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: things that I'm like, oh god, I'd never want to

851
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: see that again. And why yeah, yes, I feel like

852
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: it does really well. Maybe I'm wrong again, I'm not

853
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: very good into I'm not very into Reddit in the

854
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: platform in itself. I'm hovering around all around it, apparently

855
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: at least outside of it. But you do see that

856
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: the moderators who are there seem to do a good

857
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: job in making sure the community stays with it in

858
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: its boundaries, so they will quickly take things off and

859
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: or pause things or lock things down. I feel like

860
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: they have better access to that than I've seen other

861
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: social media platforms.

862
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which has its pluses and minuses, but I

863
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: think when it works, it's great. And also just there's

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Speaker 2: Media for that list, and it can be a great

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Speaker 2: And I would love for anybody who uses Reddit if

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