Speaker 1: Welcome to Jay dot Il, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey everybody,
Speaker 1: this is Jail Scott. Thank you so much for continuing
Speaker 1: to listen to Jay dot L the podcast. So we're
Speaker 1: sharing our favorite episodes, and mine would have to be
Speaker 1: the episode where Jet and I went on his bro Mitzvah.
Speaker 1: The reason why it's my favorite is because one I
Speaker 1: had a chance to experience something really really amazing with
Speaker 1: my son, you know, offering him a piece of world,
Speaker 1: you know what a wonderful experience, and me coming from
Speaker 1: North Philly, like I never imagined that I would be
Speaker 1: able to even do something like this, but we went
Speaker 1: to Paris, we went to Botswana on two separate safaris,
Speaker 1: one in the Kylajadi, the other in the Okavango Delta,
Speaker 1: and the last experience was in Amsterdam. And you get
Speaker 1: an opportunity listening to this episode to just to be
Speaker 1: there with us, and hopefully it inspires you to want
Speaker 1: to create some kind of bromts for or sis Miths forward,
Speaker 1: you know, for your kid. You know, we have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to bless our little people. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if it's a trip to New York or a trip
Speaker 1: to anywhere just giving them something that sparks their interests
Speaker 1: and enriches their lives. Thank you so much. Enjoy Hi everyone,
Speaker 1: it's Amber the producer here. I just want to give
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with my sister friends Liars, Saint Clair,
Speaker 1: the loud one. My bad. It sounds so ladylike, it
Speaker 1: sounds genteel. It's like Saint Clair, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. I've got the wrong silver well or you
Speaker 1: need to call Liars. Saint Clair shouldn't tell you what
Speaker 1: to do. Oh, I love it. You a whole character, honey,
Speaker 1: And that would be means she Jill, what is she?
Speaker 1: You're a name? Her name? Do her name? My name
Speaker 1: sounds like somebody's third grade teacher. It's a graden Dangeler, Dunsler.
Speaker 1: It sounds like I've run a nonprofit. I can definitely,
Speaker 1: you don't have to talk about what Jill Scott sound like.
Speaker 1: That's that's it. My mother made sure I got a job.
Speaker 1: She was like, she said, they ain't gonna know, They're
Speaker 1: not not gonna know till you show up, baby girl,
Speaker 1: until she put that exclamation point on it. Then it
Speaker 1: was like, well, wait a minute, who's that hold up now? Jill?
Speaker 1: It sounds like somebody drunk, That's what it sounds like. Yo.
Speaker 1: You know how many people thinks to the show putting
Speaker 1: exclamation points on their babies names. I'm just gonna tell
Speaker 1: you it's happening. It's happening. Listen. I wouldn't put nothing past.
Speaker 1: Like I told you. There's a brother on a TikTok
Speaker 1: that talks about African Americans and linguistics and our language,
Speaker 1: which which is affectionately called now aa vee, which is
Speaker 1: African American vernacular English m the language, the language or
Speaker 1: the words. It's a thing I think it's been a
Speaker 1: lot of new language and words while we've been inside.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just me, I don't like
Speaker 1: what like what covid E? Girl, like what you just said?
Speaker 1: A B E T T A V E. I feel like,
Speaker 1: since covid, did we get a couple more letters for
Speaker 1: the LBGTQ community. Oh plus, Yeah, you just go plus,
Speaker 1: you just go. Well, I noticed that the plus is
Speaker 1: there now that I didn't know about that before. But
Speaker 1: don't think because we just found out it was it
Speaker 1: hasn't been there for a long time. Oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: they and they ended up adding some more eyes and a's,
Speaker 1: and so when you start doubling up on letters, you
Speaker 1: might as well just throw that plus up. And now,
Speaker 1: just not to confuse the layman rights, all the sys,
Speaker 1: all the cis heteros out here, right, But then also too,
Speaker 1: one of my children was like putting me down that
Speaker 1: there's not as multiple flags too. God, Hey, now, well
Speaker 1: all right, that makes sense. I listen. I know it
Speaker 1: confuses everybody else, but I enjoy it. I like people. See.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the quands of principles is
Speaker 1: name yourself, defining yourself for yourself. And so I feel
Speaker 1: as if if you are defining yourself for yourself. I
Speaker 1: am with you. A cheerleader, I've been with you in them,
Speaker 1: so I am too. Yes, I'm with you. Listen, y'all.
Speaker 1: We we had a we had a we had a summer.
Speaker 1: I know it's um, it's kind of early in the
Speaker 1: game far as summer's concerned. UM, but we really did
Speaker 1: have quite the summer. This is the first time that
Speaker 1: the three of us have really and truly been outside outside.
Speaker 1: But for you too, you haven't been going anywhere. Everybody's
Speaker 1: been staying close to home. You know, we're we're being mindful.
Speaker 1: We're not really you know, throwing parties like that, but
Speaker 1: you know, we're not having gatherings like that. But we're back.
Speaker 1: You know. I see on the news that the COVID
Speaker 1: cases are rising again, and we have to be mindful.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to wear a mask. I don't either. I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna do it for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. I don't want to talk. I don't think
Speaker 1: you do. Yeah, it's not fun, but it's to me.
Speaker 1: It's just the back and forth and the deciding about winning,
Speaker 1: where and how long and what you're gonna do. That's
Speaker 1: where I get confused, where I'm like, all right, when
Speaker 1: I'm going in and out of stores, that's a habit, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't even have to think about that. I
Speaker 1: put it on, right I get on an airplane, absolutely
Speaker 1: not going bare faced on the airplane. Forget that you're
Speaker 1: good they are a good one. I can't believe people,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it on, you know, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: it on on that good people's airplane. But if I'm
Speaker 1: in a restaurant, you know what I'm saying, and there's
Speaker 1: nobody in there, and I gotta eat anyway, I gotta
Speaker 1: take it off to eat. It's about when you walk
Speaker 1: into your seat. When you walk into your seats, right,
Speaker 1: I keep it on and then I go eat. But
Speaker 1: then I'll be thinking to myself where I'm eating it.
Speaker 1: So that's where I get confused. I'm just being honest,
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely pro masking. I'm definitely pro vacs. You
Speaker 1: don't have to get into you know, and nobody got
Speaker 1: to hit me up on the side. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: we did. We're about that. But my point is as
Speaker 1: as I'm as we're moving towards like you know, the
Speaker 1: rest of this, you know, navigating the outside. Those are
Speaker 1: the things that sometimes get me a little frazzled. I
Speaker 1: won't lie, what should I do? You know, It's like
Speaker 1: I'm jumping into the jump rope. Like, just think about
Speaker 1: aerosol and somebody and somebody aerosol in your mouth, and
Speaker 1: how convenient is it for them the aerosol in your
Speaker 1: mouth within six feet is that they would then six
Speaker 1: set taking aerosol in your mouth, especially if they're facing you.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's it. Aerosol in your mouth, jill face,
Speaker 1: sick fall in your mouth. I don't know the scientific
Speaker 1: way to say. And I'm done. I'm just I'm two
Speaker 1: weeks over to the COVID, so I'm like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: back to being massed up. And I did two days
Speaker 1: at the goddamn Roots pic Neck and didn't get the
Speaker 1: motherfucking COVID. I got to say, I must attribute this
Speaker 1: to colloridial silver. I am learning. Shout out to Suzanne
Speaker 1: Christine who told me that if you spray the collordial
Speaker 1: silver and your mouth, you will keep the virus off.
Speaker 1: So I think it worked at the Roots Picnic. Then
Speaker 1: I got bougie and comfortable, went to the real cute
Speaker 1: seats at the Hollywood Bowl for juneteenth and got the
Speaker 1: goddamn COVID on June teenth and didn't spray the collordial silver.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying to the people, I ain't saying
Speaker 1: it's secure, but I think that it may work. Clover
Speaker 1: and silver. It's powerful, like rubbing it in. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: like I heard, sometimes it helps your scars and stuff.
Speaker 1: He'll quick, quick, good to know, good to know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I got I got the COVID. I mean, luckily,
Speaker 1: I feel blessed because I'm like, you know, triple boost
Speaker 1: and so I just headaches and chills and fever for
Speaker 1: a day. But being inside for seven days that ain't cool.
Speaker 1: That it's not fun, I will have to say. But
Speaker 1: I will say that, you know, having to kind of
Speaker 1: get out and experience the world has also been a
Speaker 1: part of people's self care over being locked up for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. And I have to say, of
Speaker 1: all that this summer that we made up for quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Okay, okay, yeah, can you please tell us
Speaker 1: what you have done this for summer thus far? Oh?
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean work, y'all know, I'm a traveler,
Speaker 1: so I don't let the virus stop that. So I've
Speaker 1: been doing that a little bit. Yeah, I've been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because like like Asia said, mask and whatnot? Yeah, no U.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I think, like I said
Speaker 1: when I went to the Rootspecking, that was the first
Speaker 1: time going out to an outdoor concert for real, for real,
Speaker 1: and that felt so good. That felt like a whole
Speaker 1: reunion of sorts. And yeah, I'm just been I've been outside.
Speaker 1: Just don't stuff ride my bike doing it, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think. To be honest, I haven't. The only
Speaker 1: new thing I did was be around people. And I'm
Speaker 1: about to go somewhere again. I'm fed to travel, even
Speaker 1: though I'm kind of magic and they lifting these mandates
Speaker 1: and I'm not liking that. I like going places where
Speaker 1: they make you get tested before you leave and then
Speaker 1: nice yes, yes, he's like, because we kind of want
Speaker 1: to know. Yeah, and before you get on the plane,
Speaker 1: we let me see your paper, sir, so that way
Speaker 1: you know everybody on the plane. We're good for this plane.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna still keep my mask on. Yeah I
Speaker 1: missed that. I'm here for your storage, Jill. I want
Speaker 1: to know all about the June. Look at your face.
Speaker 1: Your face immediately just went into relaxed and enjoying us
Speaker 1: when she said your June, I love it coming to it. Okay, friends,
Speaker 1: I am certain that I had the best trip of
Speaker 1: my entire life. Jet turned thirteen. That's my son. For
Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't know, he turned thirteen. And I was like,
Speaker 1: damn black boys in America, you know, or around the world,
Speaker 1: except for maybe Africa. Obviously, they don't have a writer passage.
Speaker 1: You know. If you're Zulu, you know, you go up
Speaker 1: the mountain and for anybody who knows what that is,
Speaker 1: you know what that is? Where from from what I understand,
Speaker 1: if you go up the mountain, you go up the
Speaker 1: mountain and there's men there and they teach you how
Speaker 1: to do important things that help to establish your manhood.
Speaker 1: And by the time you get back to your village,
Speaker 1: you're a young man and people treat you as such.
Speaker 1: Right for Jewish boys, you got your brab mentzvah. You
Speaker 1: have to learn a passage in Hebrew. That's not easy.
Speaker 1: You know, you have a big old party, everybody celebrates you,
Speaker 1: and brab mitzvahs are a lot of fun. But I
Speaker 1: was like, what do you do? You know, wait till
Speaker 1: our kids are like sixteen to have a sweet sixteen
Speaker 1: or fifteen for King Tiniera with some people do. So
Speaker 1: I decided a couple of years ago I started putting
Speaker 1: money away. And I know, I know people will hear
Speaker 1: me say something like that, like I started to put
Speaker 1: money away, But I need you to understand that I
Speaker 1: saved for the things that I want to do, okay,
Speaker 1: and I compartmentalized money the same way that I compartmentalized
Speaker 1: my emotions sometimes. So I wanted to do it big
Speaker 1: and I took I took money out of everything that
Speaker 1: I earned, and I put it towards this trip for Jet.
Speaker 1: I called it a bro Metzvah. I saw that on
Speaker 1: Blackish once and I thought that that was really fly.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, a bro metzvah. But we didn't
Speaker 1: want to. I didn't want to do a party because
Speaker 1: it's been two years. Kids haven't really been hanging out
Speaker 1: like that. So I'm gonna have a bunch of awkward
Speaker 1: kids in the space, and I'm gonna pay a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of money to have them look weird at each other.
Speaker 1: I decided Jet had been talking about Paris for quite
Speaker 1: some time. So how we flew to Paris. This was
Speaker 1: his first time on like in business class. He was
Speaker 1: just like, the chair was so fuss, all the buttons,
Speaker 1: all the button the chair was so fun. And I
Speaker 1: was like, this is about to be dope. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: when I got excited. I was like, look and then
Speaker 1: the food came. He looked at this meal like, m
Speaker 1: this is great. We've been on first class tablecloth on
Speaker 1: my table. We've we've even flown private you know before,
Speaker 1: but this is our first time flying overseas together ever. Um.
Speaker 1: He had a passport when he was seven weeks old,
Speaker 1: but not not one you know that he could be recognized.
Speaker 1: So now he's thirteen and he's got this passport with
Speaker 1: his real pictures. So he's like that. I think they
Speaker 1: have every movie ever. Was mom could watch movies, discuss
Speaker 1: many movies. I want to yes, just the just I
Speaker 1: took a video of him when he realized that the
Speaker 1: chair turned into a bed. It was it was it
Speaker 1: was like reliving that moment all over again. For for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is great, this is gonna be great.
Speaker 1: So we arrived in Paris and we just took it
Speaker 1: really easy. We stayed at the Four Seasons because I
Speaker 1: told y'all I put money aside from I saved for this.
Speaker 1: We walked in there, it was flowers everywhere. It was
Speaker 1: so god darn beautiful. Jet was. He just kept saying, dang, Mom, Wow,
Speaker 1: my mom almost like yeah, this is He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to know where the flowers were. All the
Speaker 1: flowers were. We were like wow. And all the people
Speaker 1: were so fancy and they were dressed so sharp. This
Speaker 1: this one guy walked by and Jet was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I looked the dude's suit was tailored so well in
Speaker 1: the fabric. Jet was like, dang, mom, that man looked nice.
Speaker 1: I was like, totally look nice. Okay. So we get
Speaker 1: into our room. It's all frenchy dingy. It's super frank
Speaker 1: frenchy dingy. What is that? Even me? I love it?
Speaker 1: And and and yellow with with um rich kinds of like
Speaker 1: deep fabrics and swear up in this this beautiful room.
Speaker 1: And we're like, okay, we're tired, so we're taking that anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this, see because it's so
Speaker 1: much um. We get out into the world. It's beautiful day.
Speaker 1: Paris is just is bright and it's it's exciting because
Speaker 1: the everything is so damn pretty. The ark, the streets
Speaker 1: are like, oh, you know. The breakfast we ate was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what was the first breakfast? Wait, give me something I need?
Speaker 1: I need to breakfast. It was simple. We just had like, um,
Speaker 1: scrambled egg on on bread. But French scrambles be different.
Speaker 1: French scrambled eggs be different. Right there, It's like they
Speaker 1: just stay there, just rise in the paint. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Fluffy had to close my eyes and hold on something
Speaker 1: because the French butter, my friends, the French the botter. Oh,
Speaker 1: I said, well, I mean we've had a bunch of
Speaker 1: moments now. We were walking out. They were sitting in
Speaker 1: the park, looking at the Eiffel Tower, walking around, you know,
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods, looking at people's dope ass houses, doing dope
Speaker 1: as stuff. You know. I'm a boyer, so I'm all
Speaker 1: looking in windows like look at you know, and Jetta
Speaker 1: is right along with me. He's fun. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: us apprestive. So we had this conversation about two things
Speaker 1: because we ended up going to two major cities, and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, listen, you know we we're looking
Speaker 1: at the TikTok's and stuff. He's sending these things and
Speaker 1: he's like, we went to Paris and we went to
Speaker 1: amstam Um and he was like, Mom, we have to
Speaker 1: be really mindful of pick pockets and in the real
Speaker 1: you know, towards the areas. Okay. So we've we've we've
Speaker 1: been talking about this a lot, like if I have
Speaker 1: to go on my purse, I'm gonna need you to
Speaker 1: be like a mere cat and look in every direction.
Speaker 1: He was like, what's a mirrorcat? I was like, boy,
Speaker 1: so he had to look up a mirrorcat that was
Speaker 1: see first of all, youse, haven't you seen a lion king? Yes?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Huh yes, So a mirrorcat is Timon Timona
Speaker 1: and Pomba Timona is Americat and Poomba is a ward hall. Okay,
Speaker 1: I knew that part. Okay, thank you. And mirrorcats you
Speaker 1: jump out of the sand and they look here and
Speaker 1: they look and we're looking out for each other. We
Speaker 1: put the little bands on our phone so we can
Speaker 1: have our phones around our wrists because we've heard that
Speaker 1: people will run by a snatch your phone and keep going.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to be mindful of all of these
Speaker 1: things and have a really good time. And um Jack
Speaker 1: became like my little hey, I'm saying, he became he's
Speaker 1: taller than me now, but he became like my protector.
Speaker 1: And when he had an inkling that something was wrong,
Speaker 1: I said, We're going to follow these things wholeheartedly, no
Speaker 1: matter where we go. If we feel like it's time
Speaker 1: to go, if you feel that deep in your spirit
Speaker 1: and you just want to leave, we leave in It's
Speaker 1: not a discussion. It's not a discussion. If I tell
Speaker 1: you jet walk to me, slowly, walk to me slowly,
Speaker 1: don't be like mom, we'n what you don't look club.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear all of that. It's important, Yeah, travel, etiquette, safety.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this because it's you and me and
Speaker 1: nobody else in the world right now. Like we don't
Speaker 1: know anybody. We don't we don't have any friends in Paris,
Speaker 1: we don't you know, so all right, and we've seen
Speaker 1: taken exactly. Listen, I'm just saying, and Auntie Aga does
Speaker 1: not have a certain set of skills. Okay, I know
Speaker 1: somebody that know somebody. I know somebody that knows somebody
Speaker 1: that do though, So we go to the Eiffelhower. That
Speaker 1: was dope. We went at midnight so we could see
Speaker 1: it light up, you know, and it was it was lovely.
Speaker 1: It just was lovely. And we also saw a very
Speaker 1: big rat and we were like wow. I was like, yep,
Speaker 1: this city, homie, don't forget damn big like a raccoon.
Speaker 1: Oh like New York, like past New York. Ill, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a big city. It's like you said,
Speaker 1: you gotta you can you take the romance saying the
Speaker 1: you know, the practicality. So it was sean delize all
Speaker 1: of that. And then we went to the Louver and
Speaker 1: this was this was a moment for me. Um. First
Speaker 1: of all, the Louvers is gigantic. It is the premier
Speaker 1: art gallery of the world. And first things first, we
Speaker 1: went straight to Egypt. So we go there and Jet says, Mom,
Speaker 1: you know if if if you dig up somebody's grave,
Speaker 1: they call it grave Robin right, like it really wrong.
Speaker 1: And I said, I say, that's my said. This trip
Speaker 1: is about this. This this trip is about hearing him
Speaker 1: out and him opening his mind and seeing things and
Speaker 1: tasting things and discovering that the world is just amazing
Speaker 1: and huge. You better kill Monger that joint. You better
Speaker 1: kill Monger that joint. Listen, I told you what time
Speaker 1: we was in the museum. I was in a museum
Speaker 1: with the twins one time and they had like a
Speaker 1: room where there was a mummy and Lana was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a no for that. She was like,
Speaker 1: she said, they didn't disturb that person's spirit and the rest,
Speaker 1: and we're not going. She was like an old black lady.
Speaker 1: She was like, oh no, no, no, no, we need
Speaker 1: to get a byt of here. We can't go in there.
Speaker 1: I was like okay, I said, okay, So we left
Speaker 1: and then we went and we saw the Victorian design
Speaker 1: and all the rich fabrics and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: That was real cool. And then we went to see
Speaker 1: Mona Lisa, and you know, we took a picture in
Speaker 1: front of that thing and he was just like, I
Speaker 1: was like, that's what I said. It was like, it's
Speaker 1: really a man. It's really a man kind of moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is so interesting. That is so interesting because twenty
Speaker 1: years twenty one years before when I first started traveling
Speaker 1: a bit, I'm gone to this Senegalese restaurant called Lovey
Speaker 1: Lodge on Lovy Lodge, and I was like, I want,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're still open on them They were
Speaker 1: still open, same place and everything. He went and had
Speaker 1: a wonderful Senegalese meal. Um, it was awesome and it
Speaker 1: was this painting of a lion and a cub and
Speaker 1: I was like getting on emotional. I was like the sign,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, look they don't be knowing, but
Speaker 1: your little heartbeat heart just be going all of this.
Speaker 1: He you know, he he had rather TWI and you know,
Speaker 1: he closed his eyes and he was like, my god,
Speaker 1: my god. I looked and I was saying, yes. He said,
Speaker 1: he's such an old man. I love j child like
Speaker 1: he is. I just yeah, my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, it was so delicious. I had
Speaker 1: no idea what rather tweet was. I saw the movie.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: and squash. It's vegetables and some kind of sauce and
Speaker 1: I don't know who prepared it, but they put angel
Speaker 1: dust in that thing, some kind of fairy juice, and
Speaker 1: it was so tender and delicious. I was like Okay,
Speaker 1: I ain't no girl, more real talk after the break.
Speaker 1: We love Paris, Okay, all right, so let's get to
Speaker 1: the to the other part of this trip. We leave
Speaker 1: Paris and we head to South Africa. I forgot about
Speaker 1: that part. We get to South Africa, told him, I said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: this was a trick. Okay, yeah, how long a trip
Speaker 1: is a well, from Paris to South Africa. It was
Speaker 1: about ten or eleven hours. Okay, I'm not too bad,
Speaker 1: but this is new for him. He's never flown this
Speaker 1: long before the ETA was broken. So he was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I slept for eight hours, Mom, I know
Speaker 1: I did. How is it still four? How is it
Speaker 1: all this time left? And I was like, it's not right. Okay,
Speaker 1: just relax, you got a little bit time left again.
Speaker 1: The flight was great, um, the whole deceeding and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. He loved it and thought it was
Speaker 1: so dope. He kept looking at me like, damn girl.
Speaker 1: You know, he kept giving me the damn girl, look
Speaker 1: that thing good. Anyway, we go from South Africa and
Speaker 1: we take a little flight to my womb um that's
Speaker 1: in Butuana. So thus far he's gotten three stamps on
Speaker 1: his passport, one to Paris, one to South Africa, and
Speaker 1: one to Butwana. So we're back where I was pregnant. Why,
Speaker 1: oh god, that's a lot. I know you was crying.
Speaker 1: I just was watching most and the arrangement you must
Speaker 1: have made based on your knowledge of that area, like,
Speaker 1: oh right, So being able to go back and having
Speaker 1: it not be a new experience for you so that
Speaker 1: you could be the we discussed things together. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that I went to Paris. We went to
Speaker 1: Paris first because he really wanted to go to Paris.
Speaker 1: He wanted to see what it was hit before. And
Speaker 1: I think that we had a great meandering of streets
Speaker 1: and walk of thinnes. We definitely had some walk of thinness.
Speaker 1: You know. He got to those ceilings. Friends, if you
Speaker 1: have not been to the Louver and in Paris that
Speaker 1: art museum, the detail, even the wood on the floors,
Speaker 1: the ceilings, your camera will never quite do justice. It
Speaker 1: gives a good idea what you saw, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: really give you the dimensions of things. And he also
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to see that the moors were present
Speaker 1: around Jesus consistently in those in those paintings. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, pointing out the moors, pointing out the brown
Speaker 1: skin you know, all over the place is particularly you
Speaker 1: know in Greek uh in some of the Greek ared
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of brown people. That's not an accident,
Speaker 1: that's not time, that's not discoloration. I was like, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: did they get Jesus's color right now? Hello? Those hotels,
Speaker 1: those those images are in abatment of the Vatican. Oh oh, okay,
Speaker 1: the afro downstairs, but the press out is upstairs. I
Speaker 1: got you, I got you. So now we're in my
Speaker 1: own and then we take a helicopter. Yep, we took
Speaker 1: a helicopter to the Okavanga Delta. It's the jungle of Bruttara.
Speaker 1: We're going on. Oh, I can't wait to see what
Speaker 1: we land. I can't wait to see what we end
Speaker 1: up coming, right because man, we went to see what
Speaker 1: man did with all of this amazing architecture and this
Speaker 1: beautiful artwork and these the sculptures and all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: Making hair of a blow with stone like that was
Speaker 1: really truly beautiful. A jill, can you spell that? Could
Speaker 1: we could? We want to look as you're talking, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: what's what you spell that for me, it's really what
Speaker 1: it sounds like, okay va delta, Okay, oh thank you,
Speaker 1: or they or they all say okavango. I think American
Speaker 1: says okavango, but it's okay, yeah, I'm about to go
Speaker 1: on this tour with you. As you talking, you didn't
Speaker 1: know that, but I'm here for this. Just like people
Speaker 1: say Botswana, but it's really Botswana. It really is. When
Speaker 1: you twa, we know that Asian and I now we're
Speaker 1: we're aware now, but you we did not know prior
Speaker 1: to the Jay do Ill podcast. Botswana, Zambia, Mozam no
Speaker 1: Mozam beach and Botswana, so let us speak about our
Speaker 1: mother land. That's when I learned all of the African
Speaker 1: countries and that song. Right there, I'm in the helicopter
Speaker 1: with Jet and we're watching the earth change. It went
Speaker 1: from my womb and it's it feels kind of uh,
Speaker 1: it feels like a beach town, but there's no beach
Speaker 1: and we're flying over and all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing for as far as the yay I can see.
Speaker 1: And he just understand how big Batuana is and then
Speaker 1: how big the Okavanga delta is. So we we flew
Speaker 1: for an hour on a helicopter too. We all of
Speaker 1: a sudden there was water and you can see crocodiles
Speaker 1: doing what crocodiles, dude. You can see um impala and
Speaker 1: key do and elephants and zebra and everything. It's right
Speaker 1: below us and Jet I could you know, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of you know, looking at the corner of my eye
Speaker 1: to see what he's doing. And he's just got his
Speaker 1: mouth open like this is real. I said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take you to Lion King, okay, And that's where we're going.
Speaker 1: So we get we laying there and they have a
Speaker 1: van a truck waiting for us. You know, you've seen
Speaker 1: them on TV, the Safari trucks. So we get in.
Speaker 1: Of course they're going to offer us beverages because when
Speaker 1: I tell you, when you go on Safari, the one
Speaker 1: thing that they're going to do two things for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: they're definitely going to feed you like crazy. I want
Speaker 1: to know what that is. Okay too, I want to
Speaker 1: eat a half bath. And you're going to go on
Speaker 1: Safari at least three times a day because it's it's
Speaker 1: literally never the same show twice. I mean, I see
Speaker 1: that okay, so walk us through these things, Jill. I
Speaker 1: need to know what the food is. I needn know
Speaker 1: what the different things you saw in the safari. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what y'all eat? I guess lounge if you will. Everything
Speaker 1: is on is on a platform, so we're not on
Speaker 1: the ground the tents because we stayed in a tent.
Speaker 1: The tenths that we're in are not on the ground.
Speaker 1: Everything is like a bridge. Right, we're high up. Um,
Speaker 1: not too high. UM, maybe about a good ten feet
Speaker 1: off the ground. Um. Right. So that's all like really pretty.
Speaker 1: Everything is just really well done. And it's what you
Speaker 1: imagine with the white curtains and the um. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have heat, it doesn't have air condition. Um. At night,
Speaker 1: it gets very very cold, depending on the time that
Speaker 1: you go. But they put what they call bush babies
Speaker 1: in your in your bed um and and bush babies
Speaker 1: are hot water bottles that are covered in something fuzzy
Speaker 1: and it keeps your bed nice and warm. So every
Speaker 1: night there's bush babies in your bed and you're it's
Speaker 1: so happy to have them because this brick is really
Speaker 1: really cold in the desert at night. But the dag
Speaker 1: on foods, you know, I'm here with it. The lady
Speaker 1: comes out and when I tell you, everybody's so pretty,
Speaker 1: like they're just pretty. That's that was one of Jet's
Speaker 1: first observations. He's like, Mom, everybody's just so pretty. I said,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, right, just crazy. All different kinds of faces. Um,
Speaker 1: some some with really big guys, some with slanted eyes,
Speaker 1: some some really fair skinned, some some wide nose, some
Speaker 1: big lips, some one big lip, one small lip, some freckles,
Speaker 1: some balls. You know, this is people. People come in
Speaker 1: all different shapes and sizes, but that there's something else
Speaker 1: that is attached to these folks. It's like a light
Speaker 1: within that is just you can't ignore it. So the
Speaker 1: pretty lady comes out and I can't remember her name,
Speaker 1: it was it was like four syllables forgive me. And
Speaker 1: she comes out and she says, today I have prepared
Speaker 1: for you and ted Acle, I'm soup with a fresh
Speaker 1: crema and a sparticles. And then she goes on and
Speaker 1: we're like just amazed, just like look, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: whatever you say, you know, we're gonna eat it. Why
Speaker 1: was it even better than Paris? Of course? Because way better,
Speaker 1: like way better of course we got because these them
Speaker 1: seasons there is just incredible and they feed you breakfast, lunch, dinner,
Speaker 1: and high tea. They typically have like an English breakfast,
Speaker 1: which is some baked beans, eggs, sausage. Um. They had
Speaker 1: beef sausage, they had chicken sausage. I was like, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Um. And I don't recall eating like
Speaker 1: fresh muffins and things like that. But they made omelets.
Speaker 1: They made. The thing that Jet loved the most was porridge.
Speaker 1: He loved porridge. Just ate it slow and looked at
Speaker 1: the spoon and he was like, this is crazy porridge.
Speaker 1: He loved porridge. Okay, so we go out on safari
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm a little nervous because now I'm
Speaker 1: second guessing myself. Did I just bring my cup out
Speaker 1: here to get epped by something? Because you do have
Speaker 1: to sign a waiver saying that if you happen to
Speaker 1: die itself, the fault that you fully knew that you
Speaker 1: were coming to an area where they're a wild and
Speaker 1: honey mouths. That's a moment. They make sure that you
Speaker 1: know as much as possible. How you know, they take
Speaker 1: every precaution, every procution to make sure that you're safe,
Speaker 1: and you have to follow the dog on rules. Don't
Speaker 1: go off the damn bridge and decide you're gonna take
Speaker 1: a walk. You're not safe, dummy, you know, but bab
Speaker 1: boon could kill you. Mind you. They're babboons outside of
Speaker 1: our room, and they are we just sitting on the
Speaker 1: deck and just watch them play. And the baboons and
Speaker 1: the zebra and the impala and the kid. They're all
Speaker 1: together because you know, they're not out here eating meat.
Speaker 1: They're just chilling, just chilling. It's so much to say.
Speaker 1: We saw a leopard. They had killed a zemina and
Speaker 1: had a piece of the legs up on the tree,
Speaker 1: and she just looks She looked so satisfied. She looked
Speaker 1: so satisfied. Her legs were gapped over, and I said, wow.
Speaker 1: Our guide, his name was Kambungle. We also Delta, Delta
Speaker 1: just he wanted to make sure. I told him while
Speaker 1: we were there, and he really made sure to educate
Speaker 1: Jet and Tom to go as close as possible. We
Speaker 1: were so close to lions. I just was like, I
Speaker 1: prayed the whole time. We also had a flat tire
Speaker 1: while we were in the tall brush all bush. It
Speaker 1: was during the day, but that means nothing. And the lions.
Speaker 1: The lions are the exact same color as the bush.
Speaker 1: And I stood up and Jet was like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? And I said, I'm looking like a mere cat,
Speaker 1: and he was like, here you go with this meercat.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm watching because all I could think
Speaker 1: of was if a lion happens to come out and
Speaker 1: God for big killed come bonga, the wheels off. And
Speaker 1: even if I could drive this truck, I don't know
Speaker 1: where to go. We started an hour ago, an hour
Speaker 1: in every direction, you still have not reached them. The
Speaker 1: delta is so big. We saw hippopotamus, we saw ostrich,
Speaker 1: We saw babylons, we saw leopard, we saw lions, we
Speaker 1: saw so many. We saw eagles, white eagles. I didn't
Speaker 1: know they existed. We saw my favorite animals, the key due.
Speaker 1: We saw loads of them with their pretty selves, whatever
Speaker 1: kind of mixture they are. We saw jackals, we saw
Speaker 1: oh boy, we saw it off, and we saw morning, noon, tonight.
Speaker 1: Because the show is never the same, like the animals
Speaker 1: are always doing something. Yeah, they're living, They're okay. So
Speaker 1: this is my first example. Oh god, oh my god,
Speaker 1: a freedom. This is what freedom looks like. This is
Speaker 1: there's no confines here. This is what freedom. It's like
Speaker 1: You're able to do whatever you want, whenever you want,
Speaker 1: however you want, for as long as you want. Period. Okay,
Speaker 1: So um at night that the sky turns read sometimes
Speaker 1: it's purple, sometimes it's it's it's the orange. Like we
Speaker 1: can't fathom the way that the moon shines and the
Speaker 1: way that the pictures do no justice. There's no camera
Speaker 1: I think that could capture what these colors really look like.
Speaker 1: So we spent four days there with them. Then we
Speaker 1: took a helicopter to um the Kalajadi desert. Wow. At
Speaker 1: this point, can I just ask an American question, Jill?
Speaker 1: At this point, how are you guys avoiding the bites,
Speaker 1: the bug bites these things? Are you still buck bite free?
Speaker 1: Because y'all was standing in it's also fabric all around
Speaker 1: you to make sure that you're that you don't get bitten.
Speaker 1: They have the spray called boom in the room. UM,
Speaker 1: so you can spray boom just in case if you
Speaker 1: you know, you feel away. But I make it a
Speaker 1: point to go um if and when I traveled to
Speaker 1: to Putuana, I'm not going in there summer. I go
Speaker 1: in the winter, okay, So, and that's June and July
Speaker 1: are the best times to travel to me. And and
Speaker 1: at winter the weather it's still what in June July
Speaker 1: and what is done. It's reasonably warm during the day,
Speaker 1: but it's a different sun there. It's a whole different
Speaker 1: sun there. Okay, So warm is you know, eighties, upper
Speaker 1: eighties um during the day and at night somewhere under twenties.
Speaker 1: We slept in sweatsuits and fuzzy socks. Well yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I heard that the desert can't get really cold,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think you're that cold, not that cold,
Speaker 1: and that less it's the bugs because they don't be
Speaker 1: around in the cold, that's true. So at least you
Speaker 1: know when you're sleeping, they ain't gonna get you in
Speaker 1: that sleep. So that experienced. They laid out the carpet
Speaker 1: and then then there was one moment when they wanted
Speaker 1: to tell me how they felt, and I didn't see
Speaker 1: it coming, and it was very emotional. They were just
Speaker 1: talking about my time there as modern mostway and um
Speaker 1: in front of jet which was really awesome. You know
Speaker 1: that I had introduced Patuana too so many to the world.
Speaker 1: That was very emotional and they were like, we love you.
Speaker 1: And they told jet Um. You hear about these stories
Speaker 1: when when somebody says you're in Africa, welcome home. But
Speaker 1: they were like, jet you were, you were created here,
Speaker 1: you were, you were created here, Welcome home. They knew that. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was three three weeks pregnant when
Speaker 1: I when I got there, and I know they wanted
Speaker 1: to give you all the advice and all of the things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure they were heavily invested. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just so beautiful. That's so beautiful. It's still bugging
Speaker 1: me out how how beautiful it all was. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to make it brief because I've been talking
Speaker 1: my head off. No, this is good because he is
Speaker 1: going to this is going He's going to open up
Speaker 1: bits and pieces of this gift over the years. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's going to continue to kind
Speaker 1: of gift him forward. And it's it's good for people
Speaker 1: to hear it because because you're also creating like goals
Speaker 1: for people in a way like I never thought about
Speaker 1: doing that. Okay, like Jill did. I might have to say,
Speaker 1: my ducks because that sounds really cool. Right, And that's
Speaker 1: that's the cool You're giving people a very real kind
Speaker 1: of you know, just this moment where they can say
Speaker 1: I can come up with the thing and create it
Speaker 1: and then follow through and that these are all the
Speaker 1: elements to what it would look like and feel like.
Speaker 1: And then it goes with with whatever budget you have
Speaker 1: that if we can't if we're not doing the big party,
Speaker 1: you know, if we're not doing the walk with all
Speaker 1: the men, you know, and they take the boy away
Speaker 1: for you know, a week's time or whatever the case,
Speaker 1: if we're not doing those things and we have to
Speaker 1: do something to acknowledge, you know, that they're going into
Speaker 1: their manhood and that they're going into their womanhood as well.
Speaker 1: Like these things are super valuable, you know, I think. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So we're in the Kalajadi. This is the most luxurious shit. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I've ever seen this tent. The tent is a mansion, baby, Okay.
Speaker 1: The fabrication of the tent is rich. That there's there's
Speaker 1: um Persian rugs all over, Moroccan rugs all over the floors,
Speaker 1: the sculptures, the mahogany beds. We both have four post
Speaker 1: mahogany beds um. The bathroom has a as a chaise
Speaker 1: la ounge in it, made with yellow velvet. The toilet
Speaker 1: is an absolute throne of mahogany. Like you gotta be
Speaker 1: kidding me. Ye, Look, we had our private pool, our
Speaker 1: punge pool. We had an outdoor shower and an outdoor
Speaker 1: toilet and they were separate from each other, just in
Speaker 1: case you felt like taking the poop in the bush.
Speaker 1: We went on safari twice a day because we were like,
Speaker 1: we're a little bit We took naps in between. So
Speaker 1: we got up in five three. We had an amazing breakfast.
Speaker 1: Every day we went out, saw all the things in
Speaker 1: the desert. It's different. So we're now we're looking at
Speaker 1: we're looking at we're looking at the sky, we're looking
Speaker 1: at the animals. Of course, we ended up bumping into
Speaker 1: a very large lion, like okay, I don't understand what
Speaker 1: a bump a bump. He just happened to turn the corner.
Speaker 1: He was there in the car. We had a cage around.
Speaker 1: There's no cage around the car. So he saw us,
Speaker 1: we saw him, and then we just sat quietly and
Speaker 1: he did He was like oh uh, and went on
Speaker 1: about his business doing what he was doing because he's
Speaker 1: free and living without fear. There's nobody there to shoot
Speaker 1: him or hunt him or kill him. Right, So he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, there's one of these things, huh. And
Speaker 1: he's not hungry so because and we're also not exactly
Speaker 1: on the menu, um, but there is. I've heard many times,
Speaker 1: um that people get killed in Safari because they don't
Speaker 1: follow the rules. They get out the van, they get
Speaker 1: out the Safari jeep, they go and want to take
Speaker 1: a picture with the lion like it's freaking simble. It
Speaker 1: ain't and ain't. I can guarantee you they ain't got
Speaker 1: this brown on their arms. I can guarantee you those people, girl,
Speaker 1: Because what we're gonna do is follow the rules. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna take a quick break and then
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. We're we're in the Kalajadi. They're
Speaker 1: serving meals that are so beautiful. Give us wine, Come on, jil,
Speaker 1: give us, come on. They said, we've have we have
Speaker 1: fried chicken and a lintil salad. And I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect this chicken. I don't
Speaker 1: know they fried the chicken. It was so light and
Speaker 1: crispy um and it was just the moistest pieces of chicken.
Speaker 1: I need to take a picture of LA's face. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I got lost. Don't nobody talk about food like Jill.
Speaker 1: You know that it'd be like close your eyes, y'all.
Speaker 1: Just the salad was cold and the chicken was hot.
Speaker 1: And they have something called pi pi. He said. The
Speaker 1: salad was going and the chicken was hot, like it
Speaker 1: was a surprise. I'm sorry, y'all's eyes is closed, and
Speaker 1: y'all look like y'all two seconds away from a whole moment.
Speaker 1: But it's fine. Popo sae. It's an oil. It's an
Speaker 1: oil with all these peppers in it. It's like a
Speaker 1: vinical oil with a lot of peppers. And you just
Speaker 1: marinated and I poured that hot. It was. It was hot,
Speaker 1: but it was like the righteous hot. It wasn't It
Speaker 1: was hot, and you with a hint of sweet at
Speaker 1: the end, not burning. It was sweet at the end.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, th friend, I ate Pilly Pilly
Speaker 1: popo and everything. I couldn't stop myself. Sometimes I just
Speaker 1: did a piece of bread and put some pill. Somebody
Speaker 1: give me something to stop this up with, please, somebody
Speaker 1: got a little piece of bread please, so so so
Speaker 1: so so so so so so so that was the
Speaker 1: meal for me. I ate it all. And I watched
Speaker 1: the sea with Jimmy. He ate it all, and we
Speaker 1: just looked at each other like, this is what's happening. Okay,
Speaker 1: you talked about the food, but can you just tell
Speaker 1: us did you have any cocktails? Did you have any?
Speaker 1: Every day? Every day? They serve your dreams all day long.
Speaker 1: And I never knew how good a Gin and Tonic was.
Speaker 1: I was never a Gin and Tonic girl. Now I am.
Speaker 1: That is the perfect summertime refreshing, just a little hint
Speaker 1: to get your tipsy, just a little. I love a
Speaker 1: Gin and Tonic. Now I'm in with a splash of lemon.
Speaker 1: I'm in lemon on line, Okay, lemon on live. And
Speaker 1: if I can get Botswana gin, that's what that's really amazing,
Speaker 1: all right? All right? So we go for a walk
Speaker 1: with the bushmen. They're called by saddleway. Fine, they look
Speaker 1: like Asian folks. They look like Asian folks, but they're
Speaker 1: really brown, and they they're titties is out? Okay? And
Speaker 1: I just get the bushmen, know, right, or the bush
Speaker 1: bushmen and women you know how you know how patriarch
Speaker 1: is of course, yeah, we don't get a work. Won't
Speaker 1: get a word, right, man, don't get a full word.
Speaker 1: But there are women and of all eighties, um and
Speaker 1: you know, titties out, and beautiful necklaces like string beads
Speaker 1: are all over their bodies, and they have very short
Speaker 1: hair that looks just like the earth. I swear it does,
Speaker 1: like from a distance in the helicopter when you look
Speaker 1: down on the earth, it's the exact same textures. Come
Speaker 1: on and they take us for a walk. They speak,
Speaker 1: they are one hundred thousand of them left. This is it.
Speaker 1: This is it because the world is coming and the
Speaker 1: kids want to experience other things, you know, and there's
Speaker 1: very few, you know, one hundred thousand left that really
Speaker 1: want to. I guess hold on to that. But they're trying.
Speaker 1: They're trying. So they take us out for this walk
Speaker 1: and they're they're all of a sudden, you know, they're digging,
Speaker 1: and they're telling us about all the earth and all
Speaker 1: the stuff. You get this take this dug a hole
Speaker 1: and found some big ass thing. And they were like,
Speaker 1: boil this is for pains. And I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I could take this whatever, this thing it's
Speaker 1: with me? Right, you did notice cell bring foil? Right?
Speaker 1: A scorpion, right, this big scorpion they dug out the
Speaker 1: ground and now they're playing with it. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm allergic to be stings, so now you know.
Speaker 1: But they're they're telling us they didn't really they didn't
Speaker 1: really speak English. We had a translator who had to
Speaker 1: live with them in order to learn how to speak
Speaker 1: the language, because people who speak Paddi, people who speak
Speaker 1: Zulu pulsa, I don't know how to say that. Right,
Speaker 1: whatever the language is, this is not that. This is old, old, old, old, okay,
Speaker 1: And it takes a lot of time, and you have
Speaker 1: to live, you have to be completely immersed in it
Speaker 1: in order to learn it. And even still our guide
Speaker 1: spoke six or seven languages, but he said he lived
Speaker 1: with them and still struggles. He said, I can hear,
Speaker 1: but I can't speak as well as I wish I could.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, okay. So they play with the scorpions.
Speaker 1: The guy this this, the bushman puts the scorpion in
Speaker 1: his mouth. I'm never I'm bugged out. I'm bugged out.
Speaker 1: He was like, there, there are friends, there are toys.
Speaker 1: We play with them. And they dug another hole, put
Speaker 1: their dude away and buried him. And I was like,
Speaker 1: it's scorpions in this damn doesn't really big factas right
Speaker 1: underneath us. So now Jet and I are looking everywhere
Speaker 1: because we are a little bit scared. Now, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going back to meercat status. You know, have thorns in
Speaker 1: our socks and trying to act like everything is cool
Speaker 1: because their barefoot. Why aren't they stopping to take thorns
Speaker 1: out of this socks because it hurts. How you got
Speaker 1: you got shoes on the right, Yeah, but there's there.
Speaker 1: These thorns are coming up under the under the hands
Speaker 1: or something I don't know, and getting stuck like a
Speaker 1: tiny mean needle, like a mean little needle. Well, this
Speaker 1: is the reality also of nature and being outside and
Speaker 1: you know, different terrain. We struggled with that one because
Speaker 1: every few steps it was a new mean needle. And
Speaker 1: when we didn't want to, we didn't want to play
Speaker 1: ourselves like you y'all don't have no shoes on, how
Speaker 1: are you not getting stuck by mean needles? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they made fire out of jackal dung. How you
Speaker 1: make fire to dodo, I don't know, but what we
Speaker 1: watched it, we were amazed. We were mazed. I mean
Speaker 1: I never even seen the jackal. Wait fire, I mean
Speaker 1: out of the jackal, I'm dung. Wow. Okay, there's a
Speaker 1: gas or something that comes off of poople. Well they
Speaker 1: mashed it up and it was like soft because there's
Speaker 1: a like a like like hey, it turns into kind
Speaker 1: of like hey, so you know, enough friction it became fire.
Speaker 1: We were like damn happy too. And it's crazy. The
Speaker 1: pictures that we took with the with the bushmen, they
Speaker 1: came out black, all of them in that crazy what
Speaker 1: you feel like some things weren't meant to be seen
Speaker 1: or you can't see their faces. And the pictures in
Speaker 1: between are there, but the pictures directly with them standing
Speaker 1: next to them are black. And we were like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: in that dope. They bring us our lunch outside. It's
Speaker 1: so it's so jazzy, it's so special, it's so extra okay,
Speaker 1: all the things, and then we take ATVs into the
Speaker 1: salt flats. A TVs are those four wheels vehicles. The
Speaker 1: salt flats are as big as Switzerland. It's where your
Speaker 1: water used to be, but no more, right, and so
Speaker 1: it's like it's like white on the ground with the
Speaker 1: big cracks. Yes, and we went directly into the salt
Speaker 1: flass beautiful on the a TVs where we sped like crazy.
Speaker 1: The guy was like a valet. He was like, you
Speaker 1: want to go fast style? Jed was like yes, because
Speaker 1: he's driving himself for the first time. Yes, and that
Speaker 1: was dopeest shit. We get out, We get way out there.
Speaker 1: We drove for like an hour into the salt flats.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's how big it is, Okay,
Speaker 1: And then we get off and he says, find an
Speaker 1: area by yourself. And I noticed that as I'm walking,
Speaker 1: there's really no sound out there. There's no sound. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt like that. Well, it's not the same, but
Speaker 1: like out in the desert when you go to like
Speaker 1: Arizona and stuff like that, Like you get out to
Speaker 1: a certain point and it's like standing in like a
Speaker 1: studio or something like, it's like flat, no sound. It
Speaker 1: was deep and I honestly started to feel a little
Speaker 1: fear because I'm not accustomed to not hearing any sounds.
Speaker 1: But I was safe. I knew I was safe because
Speaker 1: we're an hour away from any trees or vegetation. Animals
Speaker 1: are not walking out there. They'll die, they know better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nothing growing out there. So he says, all right, now,
Speaker 1: lay down, and we're in three different places, and he says,
Speaker 1: enjoy the sunset. And the sky turned peach and then
Speaker 1: it turned blue and then and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: there were stars just popping up. I've seen you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: we've all seen stars before, but they turned colors. They
Speaker 1: were green and red and yellow. I've never seen a
Speaker 1: rainbow of stars before. And then they were shooting stars
Speaker 1: in between, not one, not twelve, not fifty, just so so,
Speaker 1: so many. And he says, all right, now after and
Speaker 1: now realize that we have to ride back. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's lights on the ATVs, but we also have to
Speaker 1: ride through the bush on these ATVs. The driver, i
Speaker 1: mean the guide valet shout out the valet. He's in
Speaker 1: the front, jets in the middle, and I've decided to
Speaker 1: take the back because I figured I'm gonna protect him.
Speaker 1: And I got his back. I said, my god, what
Speaker 1: am I gonna do something? Decided to jump on my chad,
Speaker 1: where which direction to do? Out? What does something jump
Speaker 1: on me? And Jet is gunning it. He's gunning it hard.
Speaker 1: Just I got a gun it too, But also not
Speaker 1: get in his dust because if I'm in his dust,
Speaker 1: I can't see, you know. And we're just out here
Speaker 1: in the middle of all of this, you know. And
Speaker 1: I figured, Okay, maybe the noise will distract and they
Speaker 1: won't want to, you know, fuck with us. But I
Speaker 1: was scared. I was very, very scared. But we arrived
Speaker 1: back at our jeep and then we rode on to
Speaker 1: camp and had a wonderful meal, met people from all
Speaker 1: over the world. Most of them were Americans, which was
Speaker 1: really surprising. And then we left. We out there, any
Speaker 1: chips out there, any chips, any American chips out there? No,
Speaker 1: but I want you to go. I know you do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna working on it, just to see that. See what.
Speaker 1: So the first part of the trip was so Jack
Speaker 1: to see what men can do in Paris with the
Speaker 1: architecture and the artes. This next part is for him
Speaker 1: to see what God does and what God can do.
Speaker 1: We couldn't capture what the stars did. We only could
Speaker 1: look at it with our eyes and be humbled by it. Yeah, magnificence,
Speaker 1: like the true definition of creativity. Nothing better than this,
Speaker 1: nothing from the animals, to the trees, to the all
Speaker 1: of the things. Okay, so we leave this wonderful experience
Speaker 1: just floating. We've learned so much. We'll be back after
Speaker 1: the break. Now we're on our way to Amsterdam, and
Speaker 1: we get to one of my favorite cities in the world,
Speaker 1: and we kicked it. We walked the dogs, we ate
Speaker 1: the waffles. We went to fabric the Luminesque, a light museum,
Speaker 1: and that was freaking phenomenal because the light it was
Speaker 1: what's his name, Gustav Clement his artwork, which is very,
Speaker 1: very colorful. They had it everywhere. It just became all
Speaker 1: around you. They have a black warehouse and they created
Speaker 1: these freaking dope ass lights and the art was all
Speaker 1: over you, everywhere you look. It was amazing. We must
Speaker 1: have stayed in there for at least an hour, like
Speaker 1: it was fresh. You can ride your bike everywhere. We
Speaker 1: took a canal. I wanted to Heineken because Heineken is
Speaker 1: better overseas. I gotta Heineken and I was like, you
Speaker 1: want a beer, and he was like Mom, Mom, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm a child. I said, okay, and the guy says, well,
Speaker 1: I mean we have Heineken zero. I said, what's Heineken zero?
Speaker 1: He was like, just no alcohol in it? And I
Speaker 1: was like, you got a coastin He was like I do.
Speaker 1: So we enjoyed a beer together and we did that
Speaker 1: multiple times, his Heineken zero or my Heineken, and we
Speaker 1: you know, chatting it up and enjoying ourselves. We sat
Speaker 1: on park benches. He's like, mom, I don't think or
Speaker 1: a little cafe tables. He was like, Mom, I don't
Speaker 1: think we could sit here. Where's the restaurant? I said, exactly,
Speaker 1: their seats here because people need to sit. There'sh lollipops here,
Speaker 1: because people get drug out there. It's like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, there's it's a conscious consideration of
Speaker 1: what people want in this place. So we got a
Speaker 1: chance to experience three different kinds of creativity and freedom,
Speaker 1: which is hopefully, you know, the goal to inspire. He
Speaker 1: bought some dope shit. I gave him a budget. I
Speaker 1: watched he found his style between Parish, some good shopping
Speaker 1: and Amsterdam too. Oh yeah, for sure, he found his thing.
Speaker 1: He was like, this is apparently Hugo Bosses is where
Speaker 1: the boy lives. I was like, oh, I said, you
Speaker 1: know what this means, right, you know what this means?
Speaker 1: He was like, what is it me? You good job?
Speaker 1: You gonna shot. You gotta get that good good good.
Speaker 1: We go into stories. He's like, oh, those sneak is mom, No,
Speaker 1: sneak is fresh. Oh man, oh man. I looked at
Speaker 1: the price. I was like, oh, look at your taste.
Speaker 1: He was like, you're gonna be taking care of mama. Okay, good.
Speaker 1: Ain't like it, you know? So we we did all
Speaker 1: of those things. He had a burger in a place,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Cannibal royal. I think that's what it
Speaker 1: was called Royal Cannibal. They made a veggie burger for
Speaker 1: that child. I watched my son have his first food orgasm,
Speaker 1: and I loved it. He did. He absolutely lost himself.
Speaker 1: He didn't speak for forty five He kept looking at
Speaker 1: it and shaking his head. He rolled his eyes back,
Speaker 1: he closed his eyes, he looked at it again. He
Speaker 1: bit it slow. I said, this is that's it. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm looking And he is his mother's child. That
Speaker 1: is truly. We're establishing your taste as well. Okay, I
Speaker 1: see how you get there. So yeah, And when in
Speaker 1: the Amsterdam, we also went to the Torture Museum and
Speaker 1: all of this understanding when you take these trips that
Speaker 1: this is really about the education of our kid, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You want to broaden their horizons
Speaker 1: and help him understand. So we got in there and
Speaker 1: when I tell you the medieval shit that was going on,
Speaker 1: the time it took to create some of that maniacal, vicious,
Speaker 1: brutal shit, Jet says, Wow, So it's always been like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I was just thinking that you were saying.
Speaker 1: I was like the mind, the way these minds work.
Speaker 1: They had a piece of wood, piece of wood, a
Speaker 1: big triangle, right, This was the one that got me.
Speaker 1: I think all of them were crazy and way too
Speaker 1: freaking much, but this thing was a big triangle. And
Speaker 1: what they do is they put the triangle way up
Speaker 1: and you gotta get on a ladder to get up
Speaker 1: on the triangle. Then they sit your raw neked ass
Speaker 1: on the triangle and add weights to your arms and
Speaker 1: your feet. Oh so it just hurts on your ass,
Speaker 1: like you're just just digging into your ass. Like it
Speaker 1: did slowly, ah, slowly. These others are so creative with
Speaker 1: their torture. Wow, we saw oh they cutting titties off.
Speaker 1: They was all kinds of crazy, extra brutal. And the
Speaker 1: museum was only, you know, maybe about a thirty minute visit.
Speaker 1: But we walked out of there like damn. Yo. Shout
Speaker 1: outs to Jill because into all the people listening, y'all
Speaker 1: gotta understand, Jill just broke down Amsterdam heavily without using
Speaker 1: the word cannabis or red light district. And that is
Speaker 1: truly beautiful because it is so much more, because it's
Speaker 1: so much more to these cities. She didn't even say
Speaker 1: to it. So look they had on June teenth, because
Speaker 1: we were there for June Tea on Juneteenth um, they
Speaker 1: had DJ's on every block. So in the areas where
Speaker 1: people were eating and shopping, there were DJs. Now we
Speaker 1: took it as it was June Teeth for us, like
Speaker 1: this was but will know why y'all doing this, But
Speaker 1: this is June teeth. They play Biggie and my son
Speaker 1: and I blacked out dancing in the streets, dancing in
Speaker 1: the street. It was so fun and so what again,
Speaker 1: free free can I remind people as they as people
Speaker 1: listen to your story. I want to also remind people that,
Speaker 1: you know, not for nothing, most of us have a
Speaker 1: friend or some type of family member that works for
Speaker 1: the airline, and most of us tend to use those
Speaker 1: advantages that we take to go to like Miami or California,
Speaker 1: where I like to remind people that if you got
Speaker 1: access to some type of flying privileges, you need to
Speaker 1: use those internationally. Use some of this stuff that Jill
Speaker 1: is saying, use it internationally. It's cheaper, it's cheaper, it
Speaker 1: gives you more of a discount. I just want to
Speaker 1: remind people that people who think they can't everybody knows
Speaker 1: somebody to work for the airline. Think about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been traveling for forty something years and I used
Speaker 1: my mama's flight attendant privileges. But I'm you're saying it's
Speaker 1: a blessing. I just think it's closer than people think
Speaker 1: it is. It's always yeah, I mean, you can you
Speaker 1: can accumulate miles in a bunch of different ways these days,
Speaker 1: and also to like even through your credit cards to
Speaker 1: all kinds of different things. But you know, but then
Speaker 1: also too, like there's a bunch of different travel hacks
Speaker 1: and a bunch of different websites and Instagram and TikTok
Speaker 1: pages around being black and traveling solo and traveling with kids.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a blog called the Traveling Child. I
Speaker 1: believe it's called there's a black woman who travels with
Speaker 1: her young daughters all the time and they've been everywhere together,
Speaker 1: traveling Noir, which is another good one, and so just
Speaker 1: just like a lot of different you know, so it's
Speaker 1: ways to travel and make it more affordable and travel
Speaker 1: with kids. You know, I have six kids, even though
Speaker 1: I wish they would give y'all your own plane sometimes,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. I'm here. I'm here for it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a thing. In restaurant Cannonball Royale, they played a
Speaker 1: hip hop they played hip hop in Dutch and they
Speaker 1: got veggie burgers and it's called cannabaun. I love that.
Speaker 1: I got a chicken sandwich and they put a chicken
Speaker 1: wing on it, on top of it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why I would just what made you do that? I
Speaker 1: don't know who's back there and whatever that mustard is,
Speaker 1: fuck you, fuck you for that mustard. Fuck you, but
Speaker 1: that mustard I wanted to. I wanted to lay down
Speaker 1: in it. I wanted to lick it off of someone
Speaker 1: I love deep. Now I want to look it on
Speaker 1: somebody I love dearly. I was like, that's that's that
Speaker 1: should be the caliber of sauce you should have or
Speaker 1: anything from now warm. Yeah, that's a new standard. It's
Speaker 1: definitely the standard. That's the standard of sauces from now war.
Speaker 1: Oh what a wonderful time you got, Like food, culture, art, nature,
Speaker 1: It's all all these really beautiful things that I kind
Speaker 1: of incorporated, and then so much more. Like I said, well,
Speaker 1: it'll probably unfold over time all the things, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's gonna take me, take me some
Speaker 1: time to do that. But we're gonna, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're gonna end this podcast today because you know, it's
Speaker 1: been kind of long, and we're just talking about this
Speaker 1: one thing so much. You feel long because you've been talking,
Speaker 1: but it's been great. Please take your time and unwrap
Speaker 1: these thoughts that our children deserve to have some kind
Speaker 1: of right of passage into their maturation. We are their parents,
Speaker 1: We are their aunts and uncles, were their grandparents. And
Speaker 1: this was what I chose to do with the means
Speaker 1: that I had, But it's it's fair to say that
Speaker 1: our kids deserve to have something really really special around
Speaker 1: this time. And guess what you can do it. You
Speaker 1: can do it. You can do it, Just figure out
Speaker 1: how you want to do it. If that means a
Speaker 1: lake house, an airbnb for a week with family and friends,
Speaker 1: or just all your kids friends, that's dope. If it
Speaker 1: means a trip to New York City, you know, all
Speaker 1: lights and all the fast pace and energy. If that's
Speaker 1: what it means to that, oh yeah, a Broadway show.
Speaker 1: Take your kids to a Broadway. So thank you so
Speaker 1: much for listening to j Elba podcast, and we're going
Speaker 1: to continue this conversation. How do you eat an elephant?
Speaker 1: One by? It time? Hello listeners, It's Amber the producer here.
Speaker 1: I have a two year old son, and after listening
Speaker 1: to this, I'm starting a travel fund. Like now, speaking
Speaker 1: of travel funds, you do not have to be rich
Speaker 1: to see the world, just intentional. I'm going to share
Speaker 1: with you in an article from Nerdwallet that outlines a
Speaker 1: couple of the best apps for saving money. I personally
Speaker 1: use capital to build my little travel fund and I
Speaker 1: love it. I'm saving and I don't even realize it.
Speaker 1: It allows you to create rules around your spending habits.
Speaker 1: For example, like if I get a coffee, it'll automatically
Speaker 1: put two dollars into my savings. I'll also drop in
Speaker 1: links to some of the incredible places Jill visited on
Speaker 1: her trip. I hope we all get to see a
Speaker 1: zebra soon. Hi. If you have comments on something we
Speaker 1: said in this episode, call eight six sis. Hey Jill,
Speaker 1: if you want to add to this conversation, that's eight
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