Speaker 1: Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to Minni Crush Monday with Me,
Speaker 1: Charles W. Bryant and musical guests. No, Brown, is that
Speaker 1: a Kermit the Frog boys? John, No, that's not Kermit
Speaker 1: the Frog? Who is it? It's down part of SNL.
Speaker 1: It kind of sounded like Kermit Chuck a little bit
Speaker 1: ain going Kermit the Frog. Here. We okay, it's you're
Speaker 1: doing a different cadence now. But the voice, I argue,
Speaker 1: was that big frog. Oh, we could get a little
Speaker 1: bit going nol from now on. We should do the
Speaker 1: show in the characters of of of Frog. We're going
Speaker 1: to start out with a stream this frog. Is that
Speaker 1: the only thing you can do? I can't, I can't
Speaker 1: say other words? Uh yeah, No, We're gonna do a
Speaker 1: little reverse order and start out with a little stream
Speaker 1: this action before we get into things. I watched a
Speaker 1: couple of music documentaries last week that are highly recommended
Speaker 1: by Moah. I guess you gotta like the musicians though
Speaker 1: to like the docks. But I watched the David Crosby
Speaker 1: documentary Remember My Name, that was out last year. Fantastic,
Speaker 1: really good space. It was just very brutally raw, like
Speaker 1: he's a guy who in his old age, he's he's
Speaker 1: dying soon and he knows that and as any end
Speaker 1: of his life, basically saying, all the people I worked
Speaker 1: with hate me because I'm a big asshole. Yeah, has
Speaker 1: a lot of regrets and it's just very somber. He's
Speaker 1: very frank about it all um, good stuff, complicated man,
Speaker 1: but just you know, he said it was his adrenaline
Speaker 1: and his anger management. He said, you know I was
Speaker 1: when I got mad, adrenaline kicked in, and he said
Speaker 1: it was instant asshole. And I think he's just one
Speaker 1: of those guys, you know, the at least the trail
Speaker 1: of pain in their wake. He's the one that looks
Speaker 1: like Gallagher kind of right. Uh sure, yeah, yeah. He
Speaker 1: does a little bit really good documentary though, and it
Speaker 1: got me to listen. I did not really know this.
Speaker 1: Um he did a solo record, uh kind of in
Speaker 1: the midst of all that what's it called here? If
Speaker 1: only I could remember my name, which I didn't know about.
Speaker 1: And they said that it was like a stoner classic
Speaker 1: and just such a weird, psychedelic, bizarre um thing in
Speaker 1: that in that the studio was just open and all
Speaker 1: his friends would just drop by and like like, hey,
Speaker 1: let me add this, let me put in a vocal part,
Speaker 1: let me throw in a lap steel, and it just
Speaker 1: was this layered like you should check it out, man,
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I'd love to sit around with the
Speaker 1: candles on in the dark. And you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you have to have a joint that that
Speaker 1: might help. Sure, sure, always have you speaking of you know,
Speaker 1: legends potentially on their last and their twilight days, I guess,
Speaker 1: and making cool work. Have you heard the new Bob
Speaker 1: Dylan record, Rough and Rowdy Ways? Of course that's been
Speaker 1: good man, it is good. Yeah. The first song in
Speaker 1: particular that I contain multitudes all these like it's got
Speaker 1: all these really interesting like modern pop culture references. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that they I am not used to hear and
Speaker 1: coming from him. I have a great toin of charming.
Speaker 1: Also that lost Um Nearly Young record that they came
Speaker 1: out similarly at the same time. I've been listening to
Speaker 1: that one. Toolan's also good. It's great. Um. The first
Speaker 1: time I saw Dylan was I think it was maybe
Speaker 1: during college. He was doing one of these tours and
Speaker 1: he does this sometimes where he plays like just like
Speaker 1: very off the beaten path places. And he played in Gainesville, Georgia.
Speaker 1: And if you know, I mean, if you're listening, you
Speaker 1: don't know. Gainesville. It's a just sort of at the
Speaker 1: foothills where the North Georgia Mountains begin, and it's, um,
Speaker 1: it's a sizeable town for North Georgia, but it is very,
Speaker 1: very small. And he played the Gainesville Civic Center, I guess,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. It's probably like three or four
Speaker 1: thousand people. And my buddy Eddie and I who's a
Speaker 1: Dylan freak um went and camped out nearby and then
Speaker 1: went to the Dylan show and then went back to
Speaker 1: our campsite, which is kind of the perfect first way
Speaker 1: to see Dylan. And it was in the nineties, so
Speaker 1: it was a while ago he was he was a
Speaker 1: bit younger. But it was really cool, man. It was
Speaker 1: like a town event, like everybody in the town of
Speaker 1: Gainesville came out for the show. Like there were the
Speaker 1: people that traveled to see Dylan. But then you could
Speaker 1: just see these families like a grandma and grandpa and
Speaker 1: parents and aids who probably don't ever go to see
Speaker 1: live music. They came out because Bob Dylan came to town.
Speaker 1: It was really really neat. Highly recommend checking out Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1: Emily hated it live. We took another time to Eddie
Speaker 1: and I saw them we drug our wives and they
Speaker 1: were both just not too impressed. More recently, Dylan's been
Speaker 1: doing this bit where he just kind of sits behind
Speaker 1: the piano and he's kind of croony like Frank Sinatra
Speaker 1: e type numbers, and people are like, I came to
Speaker 1: hear fucking blowing in the wind. That's a song, right,
Speaker 1: Sure he didn't he didn't do it. I mean, he
Speaker 1: does some of the hits, but he he's always been
Speaker 1: famous for just rearranging things on the fly. And his
Speaker 1: band is like he might be on stage and oll
Speaker 1: and he'll go to do all along the watch Tower
Speaker 1: and he'll turn around and switch the key right before
Speaker 1: he says one, two, three, four, And the band has
Speaker 1: got to be so good they can just go with
Speaker 1: whatever he wants to do. Wow, he's just have to
Speaker 1: like eyeball it. Yeah, very interesting performer, love it. Agen
Speaker 1: And then the other doctor I watched last night Nol
Speaker 1: was Heaven Adores You. The Elliott Smithwin that's been out
Speaker 1: for a while and it uh I wanted to see
Speaker 1: in the theater when it came out, but it had
Speaker 1: a very short limited run and just sort of got
Speaker 1: by me. But it popped up on Amazon Prime. It
Speaker 1: was really just so great. Yeah to watch that's a
Speaker 1: sad one. I think I maybe mentioned this in the
Speaker 1: show before. I saw him live weeks before he died,
Speaker 1: and he was not well, Like he was just very
Speaker 1: clearly quite drug added was. Yeah, he was just slurring
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find his capo when he was like
Speaker 1: sitting on in It was just this whole kind of
Speaker 1: like seeing somebody sort of like quiet, quietly melting down. Man.
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, that is tough stuff. He his audience
Speaker 1: cared so much about him, and I remember I saw
Speaker 1: him a few times with the band and then a
Speaker 1: couple of times by himself, and people would yell out
Speaker 1: these solo shows by himself things like you know, we
Speaker 1: hope you're okay and stuff like that, Like he was
Speaker 1: so cherished by his his fan base. It was just
Speaker 1: so fucking sad the way he went out. I missed
Speaker 1: that that music. Man, We we get cheated when these
Speaker 1: people the Jeff Buckley's and the Elliott Smith's leave us
Speaker 1: so early. You know, I had a Jeff Buckley into
Speaker 1: Elliott smith sash last night. Actually, um that record that
Speaker 1: Buckley was working on before, Right before he died. They
Speaker 1: put out his sketches from My Sweethearts to Drunk, which
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. It was one disc of it is more
Speaker 1: polished what they did in the studio. The second disc
Speaker 1: is all these really dope, weird uh uh four track
Speaker 1: type recordings, and one of them he does this song,
Speaker 1: this Genesis song called Back in New York City that's
Speaker 1: really weird and like trippy, and you know, um with
Speaker 1: all these loops and stuff, and it's just he's just
Speaker 1: he was such a creative guy. And Grace is incredible.
Speaker 1: That's such a straightforward record like I wanted to I would.
Speaker 1: That really showed that, Oh man, he's he's got some
Speaker 1: weird ship up his sleeve, like he was gonna ye,
Speaker 1: who knows where he was going. His was even more
Speaker 1: sad too, because it wasn't like addiction or he didn't
Speaker 1: die by suicide. It was like he died living life.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to go swimming. He jumped to
Speaker 1: the river to swim never came back. You know, he's
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that takes his shirt off and
Speaker 1: jumps in the Mississippi River at midnight after total recording
Speaker 1: session and yeah, it's sucking. So sad man. There was
Speaker 1: your buddy. Uh. Matt Gorley had this podcast where he
Speaker 1: would interview I can remember the name of it. It
Speaker 1: just ended, but he would interview like kind of behind
Speaker 1: like like second second tier players from big movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was there too, that's the one. And he interviewed
Speaker 1: the woman who played the senator's daughter in Silence of
Speaker 1: the Lambs who was stuck in the pit, you know
Speaker 1: with the with the dog and all that ship. Um,
Speaker 1: really really great, really cool lady. But she was talking
Speaker 1: about how she used to be Jeff Buckley's roommates. Um,
Speaker 1: and just a really weird, like totally unexpected twist to
Speaker 1: the story. I was talking about how like he needed
Speaker 1: a place to stay and he lets you let him
Speaker 1: stay with her for he was like the door guy
Speaker 1: at this club that she liked and or something like that,
Speaker 1: and they just became best of friends. And it was
Speaker 1: just a really really touching little story that was expected.
Speaker 1: It was it was literally the last episode of that series.
Speaker 1: He wrapped it. So if you guys want to check
Speaker 1: out that story, it's the it's the the last episode
Speaker 1: of I was there too. I think it's the name
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, okay, alright, everyone, we're gonna do grip this.
Speaker 1: It's been a while. I got some ship on Facebook
Speaker 1: for not doing stuff like this anymore, specifically grip this.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing it and all we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: script supervisors. Nice. They call him script e s. Back
Speaker 1: in the day they would call them continuity clerks or
Speaker 1: U script girl, of course because it was old Hollywood.
Speaker 1: And uh, his historically been a job that a woman performs.
Speaker 1: I don't think in all of my days on any set,
Speaker 1: I ever worked with a man as a script supervisor.
Speaker 1: And perhaps one of the reasons is that, uh, you
Speaker 1: have to blend in and just sort of be ever
Speaker 1: present but not loud and obnoxious about things that are
Speaker 1: going on. And the script supervisor is the right hand
Speaker 1: person of the director, um, almost as much as I
Speaker 1: would say as the assistant director. Uh. And if you
Speaker 1: don't know what a script he does, the scripty oversees
Speaker 1: a continuity. UM. They do a lot of things. They
Speaker 1: oversee the continuity of a movie. So when they go
Speaker 1: to shoot a scene, like a few minutes beforehand, when
Speaker 1: they're prepping, you will see everyone from the wardrobe person
Speaker 1: to the prop person, and especially if it's a carry overseene,
Speaker 1: like if you broke for lunch or if you're coming
Speaker 1: back to it, come over to the scripty and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: which hand was the was the gun in? Was the
Speaker 1: gun cocked? Was the collar? Was the collar up on
Speaker 1: the side like it is right now? Or did they
Speaker 1: do that during lunch? Because it's got all match and
Speaker 1: that's all on scripty, And won't they take colect polaroids
Speaker 1: and stuff too to like do when they do like
Speaker 1: last looks or whatever. They'll make sure that they know
Speaker 1: and they keep that filed away and they're a little
Speaker 1: folder and pull out that thing and see because it's
Speaker 1: not like they can make notes that all that by
Speaker 1: hand and remember it. They have to like have some
Speaker 1: kind of visual you get a reference. These days, I
Speaker 1: think they're using the old iPhones and iPads for that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. That makes perfect. But back in the day,
Speaker 1: it was a big stack of polaroids. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: during the scene they record what's going on and how
Speaker 1: a line may be said. They mark. They're sort of
Speaker 1: the the aison between the director and the editor who
Speaker 1: was obviously not on set, And a lot of times
Speaker 1: they'll be sending not a lot of times, always they'll
Speaker 1: be sending footage to the editor because they kind of
Speaker 1: get to work right away. It's not like they shoot
Speaker 1: the movie then send it to the editor and they
Speaker 1: so they'll be making notes and they will hand those
Speaker 1: notes over to the editor. Um, like we did eighteen takes.
Speaker 1: The director really loved to six and nine and a
Speaker 1: double star next to nine because he thought that was
Speaker 1: the best take. Um or maybe this director, um, maybe
Speaker 1: she thought that, uh, they didn't get it at all.
Speaker 1: So she was she wants you to look at these
Speaker 1: to see if you can marry these three takes instead
Speaker 1: of using what we thought was going to be one take.
Speaker 1: So just sort of notes like that that director is
Speaker 1: constantly giving to the script supervisor to pass along. Um
Speaker 1: what else they're watching the script obviously they're reading along. Uh.
Speaker 1: If it's a movie where you, um, where the dialogue is,
Speaker 1: you really have to nail and it's not like you're
Speaker 1: improving and doing whatever. Um, they make sure that you
Speaker 1: get it right. If it is improv stuff, they have
Speaker 1: to keep up with that because Christopher guest five takes
Speaker 1: later might be like, oh wait, what was that? That
Speaker 1: was great? What you were doing before? And the actor goes,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I was doing. I was
Speaker 1: just sat on the zone. That's where script he comes
Speaker 1: in say, oh, you did a little bit about your
Speaker 1: fly being down or whatever. So also like is that
Speaker 1: the person that someone yells line ye, script supervisor will
Speaker 1: yell out the line, or not yell out. They will
Speaker 1: very quietly tell you the line. Uh. They will time
Speaker 1: the script of the stopwatch if it's required. I think
Speaker 1: for movies you don't see that as much unless it's
Speaker 1: a really sort of timed thing that has to be
Speaker 1: a certain length. But on commercials, especially in music videos,
Speaker 1: where timing is everything you have, they sit there with
Speaker 1: a stopwatch because they know, like, you've only got three
Speaker 1: seconds to do this bit, because the commercial is only
Speaker 1: thirty seconds long or whatever, what else and all they
Speaker 1: keep in It's called the access of the scene. It's
Speaker 1: sort of where the camera position sits in relation to
Speaker 1: the actors and the actor's eye lines. So they'll keep
Speaker 1: up with all of that and be like, no, you
Speaker 1: were over the shoulder in the scene and you were
Speaker 1: looking from left to right because that's where the horses
Speaker 1: galloping away. Because you know, some actors are great at that,
Speaker 1: and other actors are so into their performance they really
Speaker 1: really rely on scripty to kind of point out this stuff.
Speaker 1: There's a really great Instagram account that I follow, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so useless because I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of it, but I'll try to remember for next time.
Speaker 1: But it shows like split screens of like this, like
Speaker 1: really awesome sequences in movies, and it shows like the
Speaker 1: on set version versus the the actual, you know, finished edit.
Speaker 1: And that one that I saw recently was like, I
Speaker 1: don't remember what movie was from, but it was I've
Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen it done for Children of Men
Speaker 1: as well, a big scene where it was a one
Speaker 1: shot tracking thing and then something blows up, like one
Speaker 1: of the buildings explodes, and everyone likes running screaming, but
Speaker 1: it shows them having like firing all those you know,
Speaker 1: those explosives and all of the like the things that
Speaker 1: have to happen to make us a scene like that
Speaker 1: go off without a hitch, and probably so much budget
Speaker 1: lined up in that an extra personnel and I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's really cool. Also, I'll send it to you and
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I think you'd dig it. I'll totally dig
Speaker 1: that and all. Uh well else, I guess the final
Speaker 1: thing they do or I mean they do a lot more,
Speaker 1: but they keep track of the uh the takes. As
Speaker 1: in the camera department. They work closely with the camera department,
Speaker 1: so they have to you know, the clapper. The loader
Speaker 1: comes in and claps the old clapper down, and on
Speaker 1: that slate it says who the director is, what take
Speaker 1: it is, what's scene it is? Maybe who the camera
Speaker 1: uh cinematographer is, and and the script he is watching
Speaker 1: that thing and they will say like it's take four,
Speaker 1: not take three, until they'll quickly erase it and put
Speaker 1: take three before anyone notices. So script is kind of
Speaker 1: the best friend of a lot of departments. That sounds
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, very important job. If you I always
Speaker 1: thought this was a job my mom could have done
Speaker 1: in retirement. It's a great gig. Like you show up.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be there super early. Um you
Speaker 1: know you you you kind of have the director's hour,
Speaker 1: So you show up when they show up, and as
Speaker 1: soon as they call cut, you make your copies of
Speaker 1: the stuff that you got to send out, and you
Speaker 1: go home and you're just sort of quietly always there.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a really good handwriting, have to have
Speaker 1: a nice demeanor. You get paid very well, like all
Speaker 1: film jobs. So if you if you were someone who
Speaker 1: is comfortable not being the center of attention and come
Speaker 1: both being seen and not heard and has a great
Speaker 1: eye for detail, nice penmanship, uh, script supervisor might be
Speaker 1: the job for you. But how do you work your
Speaker 1: way up to that? I mean it seems like such
Speaker 1: a rarefying there isn't because there's no assistant. It's not
Speaker 1: like you can start out in a department and work
Speaker 1: your way up. It's one person. So you just kind
Speaker 1: of have to make that decision like this is what
Speaker 1: I want to do, and try and just get in
Speaker 1: there any way you can, because it's all about like
Speaker 1: who you know. I mean, like the reason David, my
Speaker 1: my ex husband, got this job is because he works
Speaker 1: with this crew, and like they every time a gig
Speaker 1: comes up, they hire out the people they want. That's right,
Speaker 1: And it's not even like the production, it's the production
Speaker 1: hires the guy, and then the guy hires the team.
Speaker 1: So it's like you really just have to get in
Speaker 1: there and like get you know, your your foot in
Speaker 1: the door, and then get in the union, I guess,
Speaker 1: and that's a big part of it too. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what union they're in, but I know that personnelity.
Speaker 1: I like, you've got to be good at your job
Speaker 1: obviously and have that great eye for your detail, but
Speaker 1: your personality goes a long way as a script. If
Speaker 1: the director really likes working with you, she might just
Speaker 1: be like, you know, you're my my person forever. I
Speaker 1: like having your round. You've got my back, and you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know how to do your job in a in
Speaker 1: a nice kind of quiet, unassuming way, which is a
Speaker 1: big part of it. So that's it. No, that's a
Speaker 1: grip this. Hope everybody learned something. I sure did, check,
Speaker 1: I sure did. I'm wondering if I should go get
Speaker 1: my computer charger. I think I should because I'm a
Speaker 1: Skype just eats it up. Yeah, I came down here
Speaker 1: with a percent and noll. Yeah. Man, alright, always plug in,
Speaker 1: always plug in, all right, I'll be right back. Okay,
Speaker 1: all this entertain the people. We can leave that part in.
Speaker 1: But do do do do do do? Okay, Noel, I'm
Speaker 1: back through the magic of editing me. Running up two
Speaker 1: flights of stairs took no time at all. I know
Speaker 1: you don't seem WinDD or anything. Strangely, I'm not. Actually
Speaker 1: we experienced that in real time, Chuck. I was entertaining
Speaker 1: the folks at home while you were away. I was
Speaker 1: singing little muppet type songs. So, oh well, should we
Speaker 1: could leave all that in? If you want some of that?
Speaker 1: I think it'll be clear to super producer Ramsey where
Speaker 1: where to where to institute the cut? So no, we're
Speaker 1: gonna move on to uh a little thing called casting couch.
Speaker 1: Oh sexy. That is where I get you on the
Speaker 1: couch and hol and make sweet sweet love. I do
Speaker 1: have a couch right here. How do you Where do
Speaker 1: you want me? Huh? Well, and I don't look I
Speaker 1: can make anything work. No, okay, all right, I know
Speaker 1: your holes. Oh no, all right, So we're gonna go
Speaker 1: to casting couch. And with all these and music biopics
Speaker 1: biopics that are out and have been out, everyone's talking
Speaker 1: about what's who's next? You know what? Movies are next.
Speaker 1: I know you don't like those movies. No, but pretend
Speaker 1: for a minute you do. What do you want to see? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I actually do want to see the Elton John one.
Speaker 1: I really liked Bohemian Rhapsody quite a bit, and I
Speaker 1: know there's some some some of the same personnel, right
Speaker 1: that did those two? Am I am? I mistaken about
Speaker 1: that rocket Man in Bohemian Rhapsody. I don't know was there.
Speaker 1: I thought there was. I thought it was the same director.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe the first singer got fired and then took over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he went on to do Rocket Man, which
Speaker 1: every one that I've talked to you about said is
Speaker 1: so awesome and dream like and fantastic. And did you
Speaker 1: see it rocket Man several times? It kicks. Liked it
Speaker 1: a lot. Let's see. I don't know. I think the
Speaker 1: Bowie one would be cool. I know there's one in
Speaker 1: the works, but it looks a little twee honestly like
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's gonna be hard hitting cinema
Speaker 1: actually happening. Yeah, yeah, let's see Bowie bio pic. What's his?
Speaker 1: He's he's somebody I hadn't heard of. Uh, well, then
Speaker 1: I was errant because it's about the young David Bowie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: star Dust, Oh it's already out. Yeah, it doesn't look good.
Speaker 1: Why do you got to mess up a Bowie movie? Aloy,
Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? Like? How does that even? How is
Speaker 1: that allowed to happen? Johnny Flynn, Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: that person. He just seems kind of like a little
Speaker 1: sweet pop star from South Africa kind of well. I
Speaker 1: missed the memo nol because I asked to cast, uh
Speaker 1: the Billy Joel movie, the Stevie Nicks movie, and the
Speaker 1: David Bowie movie, so I did not realize there was
Speaker 1: I think we can count this one as a wash, like,
Speaker 1: let's just pretend this will never happened. Maybe it's great.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't want to mean to Malina before
Speaker 1: having seen it, but based on the casting and the
Speaker 1: look of it, they kind of came and went. Does
Speaker 1: not bode well. Um, but I love dude. Tildas Winton
Speaker 1: always comes up and I just think that's so clever.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. Sure, might it might
Speaker 1: be tough to sustain for a whole I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Kate Lynch I can play Bob Dylan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was only in one little vignette and like,
Speaker 1: and it was meant to be kind of weird, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Good point. Our oldest of friends,
Speaker 1: Franka Dakas first named Debbie, says Stevie could be Billy Lord,
Speaker 1: Carrie Fisher's daughter. I could see that. Eddie Redmain for Bowie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why not. Billy Joel could be Michael Keaton for the
Speaker 1: older version. Young Joel could be played by a tussled
Speaker 1: Timothy shallow May. Timothy shallowm is way too handsome and
Speaker 1: chisel jaw to play Billy Joel, who has always been
Speaker 1: a very round human. Uh. And shallow May's playing Dylan,
Speaker 1: so is he really? Oh? Yes, in real life and
Speaker 1: in the movie, I r l in a. I am
Speaker 1: got gotta gotta got it. Yeah, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. Kristen glen Kister, one of
Speaker 1: our old friends, says, uh, Gillian Anderson should reprise the
Speaker 1: role of David Bowie from American Gods, Florence Pugh or
Speaker 1: Amelia Clark for Stevie Nicks. Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1: She said, Billy is hard and to have such an
Speaker 1: unabashed love of Billy Joel me too that. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure there's a person who could do it to my licking.
Speaker 1: James McAvoy maybe, m oh, maybe he can. He can
Speaker 1: be so versatile man like he really he's one of
Speaker 1: those ones that will like beef up or like, you know,
Speaker 1: get all gaunt and ship like, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: did you see that movie where he played all the
Speaker 1: different personalities? He played them all so great. No, that
Speaker 1: was That's exactly kind of that. I think he did
Speaker 1: a fabulous job in that movie. Um, I like him
Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, that's a pretty smart, smart casting call there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he sort of has that look a little bit.
Speaker 1: J Fraser says to Billy Joel, James McAvoy would do
Speaker 1: solid representation Stevie Nicks. I'd go to Lady Gaga route. Okay,
Speaker 1: I could see that maybe, even though if they did
Speaker 1: a good wig job, you know, I think she would
Speaker 1: she would be pretty good. Okay, I could go for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly thinks she's wonderful. But boy, I
Speaker 1: love Stevie Knicks, David Bowie, Eddie Redmain. Everyone is saying,
Speaker 1: Eddie Redmain, do they know something? I don't know. He's
Speaker 1: he's a little too nerdy looking or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it. Uh, Star Chili says Bowie Tilda Swinton. Okay,
Speaker 1: Uh someone I saw someone say Billy Lord for Stevie Nicks,
Speaker 1: that would be great, and Elijah would for Billy Joel
Speaker 1: mm hmm nah, not for me. Uh, young Billy modern
Speaker 1: Billy Joel Paul Giamatti. That's where Mike Sam's I've heard
Speaker 1: that too, that that would not be bad as an
Speaker 1: older Billy Joel Mark Ballas as young Billy Joel from
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. Who is that? Knull? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but holy funk, I did not realize that Billy Lord
Speaker 1: was Carrie Fisher's daughter. She's in all the American horror
Speaker 1: story shows, do, isn't she? Uh? I don't know, don't
Speaker 1: watch it. Yeah, she totally is she and and she's yeah,
Speaker 1: she's great, She's fantastic. I had no idea. Now and
Speaker 1: now I'm looking at her in the face, and like,
Speaker 1: how did I not realize that? So I am now
Speaker 1: looking at Mark Ballas from Dancing with the Stars. He
Speaker 1: would make a great young Billy Joel because you gotta
Speaker 1: have that sort of those sad puppy dog eyes, which
Speaker 1: he has. He's more handsome than Young Billy Joel, but
Speaker 1: they're always better looking. Let's get real, almost always better looking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good job. That's from Ballad b A L L A
Speaker 1: s Mark Ballace. He could totally be a young Billy
Speaker 1: Joel or that afro out, that white boy afrow that
Speaker 1: he had. Another vote for Elijah Wood is from Ben
Speaker 1: mcvittie Stevie Nicks. Another vote for Billy Lord. Why is
Speaker 1: everyone saying Billy Lord? I mean she doesn't. She sort
Speaker 1: of looks like her. She's you gotta see and um
Speaker 1: American horror story. All right, She's real versatile, like she's
Speaker 1: She plays very different characters in each season, and it
Speaker 1: is always kind of like disappears into the role. I
Speaker 1: really think she's super talented. Okay, fair enough. David Bowie,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Groff, Hey, I love Groff. Uh doesn't look enough
Speaker 1: like him for me. M Jimmy Kachendal says Billy Joel
Speaker 1: John c Riley, John c Riley, I don't think uh
Speaker 1: to be fun, but I'm not sure about that. He's
Speaker 1: sort of in that middle range where he can't play
Speaker 1: old or young. He is he is an original. He can't.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like he's just himself. You know. Another
Speaker 1: vote for a Lady Gaga and another vote for Tilda Swinton. Uh.
Speaker 1: Garrett Keels has Billy Joel played by John Roderick. That's funny.
Speaker 1: Roderick and I had a not famous because it was
Speaker 1: only between us, but we had a little dust up
Speaker 1: about Billy Joel once where I made him eat crow.
Speaker 1: Years later he was bagging on him and I was like,
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about, dude. Do you
Speaker 1: take that snobbery elsewhere? And then about a year later
Speaker 1: I heard on another podcast Roderick talking about getting free
Speaker 1: tickets to go see Billy Joel and went and was like,
Speaker 1: god damn it if I didn't know thirty of those
Speaker 1: songs my heart and had a great time. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you owe me an apology. Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: the early stuff in particular, like is there a song
Speaker 1: called um It's like the name of a of a
Speaker 1: city like Berlin, Vienna, Vienna. That song is awesome. It's
Speaker 1: just crazy child. You know, you're so ambitious for juvenile
Speaker 1: very such a great song. I know him all Noll.
Speaker 1: He was my first big crush, didn't he do for
Speaker 1: the longest time? Sure, but like he made like a
Speaker 1: real doo woppie record or for the longest man, for
Speaker 1: the longest time I didn't realize for the longest time
Speaker 1: was Billy Joel. And it just sounded like a like
Speaker 1: a girl group hit or something, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was owed to his youth in the in the
Speaker 1: those groups from his youth. Not my favorite record, but um,
Speaker 1: you know I had plenty of hits. That's a good song, though, Dude,
Speaker 1: let me see Garret Keels Let's finish up Stevie Knicks
Speaker 1: played by Hilary Duff. I could see that if she's
Speaker 1: still around, and Hugh Jackman is David Bowie, Nick Kelly says,
Speaker 1: Emma Stone for Stevie Knicks. Nah, h Billy Joel kind
Speaker 1: of looks like Paul Gmtti these days, but that would
Speaker 1: be buck Wild, That's what Nick Kelly says, buck Wild,
Speaker 1: Billy Joel, Dean Norris Hank from Breaking Bad maybe as
Speaker 1: old Billy Joel, Stevie Nicks, David Spade. This is from
Speaker 1: Austin Devsky. By the way, it's good to an Austin.
Speaker 1: Tilda Swint's getting a lot of votes and all, so
Speaker 1: that must have been bandied about online. Oh, had certainly
Speaker 1: been discussed. Yeah, another vote for Michael Keaton, This from
Speaker 1: Steph Shannon for Billy Joel, Another vote for Gaga, another
Speaker 1: road for Tilda Swinton. Why is everyone saying the same people?
Speaker 1: It's just in the zeitgeist. Man, I don't know. Christine
Speaker 1: Davis Baker says, uh, younger version Rommy Malick. Now, he
Speaker 1: can't do he's way too square jawed, and he did
Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury. He can't do too. You can't be Freddie Mercury.
Speaker 1: And Billy Joel, Stevie Nicks, Glowy create Grace Moretts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Grihese Witherspoon is an older Stevie Knicks. And then Robert
Speaker 1: Sheehan from Umbrella Academy for David Bowie. Do you know him?
Speaker 1: I know Umbrella Academy. I don't know the names of
Speaker 1: the actors super well. Oh okay, I'm looking at him.
Speaker 1: He's he's got a face that could work. Let me
Speaker 1: see which one is. He's Irish? Oh yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he's the guy that makes ghosts. Uh. And I recommend
Speaker 1: Umbrella Academy a lot Chuck if you haven't, if you
Speaker 1: want that kind of like an adult weird superhero barn Yeah,
Speaker 1: full full, full porn um, but also Doom Patrol which
Speaker 1: is on um HBO Max Now, which is another Brendan
Speaker 1: Fraser's and he plays like a robot guy. You don't
Speaker 1: see his face very much except for when the first
Speaker 1: very first scene and the rest of his in a
Speaker 1: robot suit. Check that out for sure, that's good stuff.
Speaker 1: Let me see Angela Coxes and Natasha Leone for Stevie,
Speaker 1: Alexander scars Guard for Bowie, and Adam Sandler for Billy Joel. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's not the worst idea. Actually, everyone's saying Billy Lord,
Speaker 1: that is interesting because I agree with you. I don't
Speaker 1: think she's the spitting image, but I wonder what it
Speaker 1: is in the zeitgeist of Lord. I think it may
Speaker 1: be is because she's been and like there's so many
Speaker 1: of those seasons of American Horror Story, like oh Ship.
Speaker 1: You know what Stevie Nicks was in American Horror Story.
Speaker 1: She was in with the Witch season of American Horror Story,
Speaker 1: and Billy Lord's character was very like close with her,
Speaker 1: and they kind of dressed something that makes that might
Speaker 1: be why people are saying that. Zack Pointer says Billy
Speaker 1: Joel Genre. No, yeah, they got the same eyes. Stevie Nicks,
Speaker 1: Emma Watson, I could see that. David Bowie, Don Dane Dehn.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Oh sure, I know
Speaker 1: that guy, the guy with the sort of the creepy
Speaker 1: ice blue eyes. I think he was. Was he it? No? No,
Speaker 1: it was Bill Scarce guard right right right? Who? I
Speaker 1: believe at least one person dropped for a Bowie. Um,
Speaker 1: and I like him. I like him a lot. Uh.
Speaker 1: Someone here recommends uh ansel l Gort. Oh, he's the
Speaker 1: guy from Baby Driver. Yeah for Billy Joel way too handsome,
Speaker 1: Lily James for Stevie Nicks. And Eddie Redmain for Bowie.
Speaker 1: That's from Scott Christopher Ledford. Not too bad. Alright, let's
Speaker 1: finish up here with a couple of more. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for different people here. Uh, let me see Miley Cyrus
Speaker 1: for Stevie Knicks. That's from Angela Martin Cluck. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people would revolt against that decision for
Speaker 1: reasons other than you know, her acting ability. She's divisive, nol.
Speaker 1: I'm wrong about Billy Lord being in this season with
Speaker 1: Stevie Knicks. But Stevie Knicks definitely was in a season
Speaker 1: of American Horror Story, and Billy Lord's in almost every
Speaker 1: season of it. But it appears that she was not
Speaker 1: in the season that Stevie Knicks was in, which is
Speaker 1: super strange. I don't understand the internet. All right, Keith
Speaker 1: Edward here has a new one for Billy Joel as
Speaker 1: someone I don't know but is pretty great looking for
Speaker 1: this role. Ben Platt with two teas. Look up that guy.
Speaker 1: He very much could be a young Billy Joel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good casting right there. What's the name again, Ben Platt?
Speaker 1: This is coming from Keith Edward. I'm picking up. Put
Speaker 1: your laying down there, buddy. Uh And he says, Billy
Speaker 1: Lord is Stevie Nicks and Janet McTeer is David Bowie. Interesting,
Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks, Millie, Bobby Brown. That's from our buddy, the
Speaker 1: Danger Oven. She's too young. Bradley Cooper's Billy Joel. Oh, Gail,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Bradley Cooper can't play Billy Joel.
Speaker 1: You can do whatever. He wants. He's eight ft dollar
Speaker 1: than Billy. Joel is billy. Joel is short man, He's
Speaker 1: a little guy. They're all short and roll. You ever
Speaker 1: been to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? And actually,
Speaker 1: are you saying all rock stars are short? Most? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I have a theory. I don't think it's own,
Speaker 1: this theory, but it's is. You know, you're a little
Speaker 1: little person and you don't grow up playing sports necessarily,
Speaker 1: So what do you do to get chicks? You turn
Speaker 1: to that piano with a guitar. Walk through the Rock
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. There's a section with clothing,
Speaker 1: actual clothing. Mick, Jagger, Prince, You're walking around looking at
Speaker 1: all these Springsteen they're real clothes, and it looks like
Speaker 1: you're walking through the children's section of a department store.
Speaker 1: I can make Jaggers pants look like a ten year
Speaker 1: old should wear them. That's us and Prince, all of them.
Speaker 1: They're little. Rare is the six ft rock star? All right? No,
Speaker 1: that's all I got. Good casting, everybody? Oh yeah, very good,
Speaker 1: well done, And uh, if you don't have anything else,
Speaker 1: then I think we'll just sign off for this week.
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you again, though in the
Speaker 1: near future all I hope. So take care and don't
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