WEBVTT - Drive Time: Quarterbacks 2024 Dolphins Draft Preview with Jordan Reid 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.800 To on the move, going deep, speed wins peast Hellas. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.400 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.680 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:28.080 He's my advands in the playoffs. What is up, Dolphins 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.840 and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host, 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.040 Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, we get Smarter about 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.280 quarterback play. Jordan Reid from ESPN joins us to talk 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.960 not just about this year's class, but about the evaluation 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.920 process of teams and gms in twenty twenty four and 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.519 how that's changed over the course of years, the disconnect 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.239 between arm talent and actually playing the position of quarterback, 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:51.800 and a whole lot more. You don't want to miss that. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.080 Plus we'll talk about the class and finally a new signing. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.880 I'll break down all things tape and what you need 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.080 to know about Tier Tart From the Baptists Health Studios 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.640 inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Drive 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:12.000 Time Podcast. My apologies for not having the Tier Tart 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.240 breakdown on the Monday episode of Drive Time. That would 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.959 have been the original plan, but last Monday I ate 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.639 a damn starburst and pulled the crown of my tooth 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.800 off and come to find out that crown had been 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.600 misplaced in some way, and so over the course of 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.039 like eight years, a amount of decay build up on 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.280 that tooth, and so I've made several trips to the dentist. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.720 Just had the root canal on Monday at ten am 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:37.880 and was recovering all day, so didn't have a chance 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.200 to come update that for you guys. We are on 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.720 the mend, we are feeling better, and we are watching 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.360 football tapes. The Dolphins add Tir Tart. What a name 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:47.880 that is, by the way, one of the best names 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.760 in football since we last talked. And stop me if 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:57.480 you have heard this part before. Former UDFA super super quick, 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.520 first step plays with urgency and power. I mean the 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.440 theme on the type of player that the Dolphins have 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.960 been adding since the arrival of Mike McDaniel. Just go 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.919 read up on Tart in his time with the Titans, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.080 an early fan favorite that won the hearts of the 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.080 fan base by hitting immediately in camp in preseason in 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.320 year one as a UDFA out of in our second 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.200 player from the school, now another Florida International University panther 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.560 here with the Miami Dolphins. His final year there in college, 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.240 he had ten and a half tackles for a loss 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.440 which led the team, and one and a half sacks. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.799 But how about this though his high school that he 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.040 went to in the Philadelphia area didn't have a football team, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.040 and a local football coach saw him on the hardwood 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.720 well the black top, playing hoop and said, yeah, I 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.800 need that on my football field. I remember, like in 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.680 the nineties or I guess this would have been two thousand, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.440 so that's not the same thing. But like you know, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.040 in the old days, you could just like walk around 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:50.600 be like, oh, that guy looks like I can play football. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.040 I can probably get him to come play football for 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.760 my school because there's no like, you know, he's not 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.600 being recruited by social media yet or whatever. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:57.800 That's I digress. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.880 Anyway, he transferred schools he didn't want up at Asa 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:01.840 College in New York. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:02.200 What's that? 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.000 Who knows, but quits after six games, in which he 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.640 recorded five sacks in those six games because of a 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.480 death of a family member heartbreak. Like hardship Man, he 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.839 eventually wound up at Ellsworth CC in Iowa, May Toro 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.160 Meniscus after two games. Like McDaniel talks about this all 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.400 the time. How guys are hardened by their experiences, how 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.240 they're shaped by their experiences. A lot of the guys 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.239 that come through this locker room, McDaniel looks for guys 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.040 who kind of had a similar route as himself. What 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.239 was the league that McDaniel was in, the AFL or 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.040 the UFL or the btc. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:33.680 FL like who cares? 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.400 It was a league that no one cared about, and 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:36.840 he had to work his way back into the NFL. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.440 And the reason that I wanted to bring this background 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.080 up and he went to FIU in twenty eighteen, the 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.920 reason I wanted to bring up the background was I 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.200 noticed this on his tape and this from NFL dot 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.760 COM's Lance zerline and his scouting report. Compact three technique 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.560 who plays with explosive power to make up for his 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.560 average quickness. Tart isn't slow or on an athletic, but 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.440 he doesn't have the first step quickness to be a 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.000 disruptive gap shooter or consistent pass rusher. He can be 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.640 a little inconsistent with the timing and placement of his hands, 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.200 but he has the power and leverage to control single blocks. 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.640 With better technique, Tart can be a slow starter, but 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.960 a strong finisher from rep to rep. His upside and 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.600 brand of nasty could give him a chance to find 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.360 NFL work at some point. What's really interesting to me 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.359 about that entire collection of words, But really the first 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.480 sentence is that it's already wrong twice in that first sentence. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.880 I'm not saying it was wrong then. But Tart doesn't 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.680 play a lot of three technique. He's almost always in 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.080 the nose, and he's not slow off the football like 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.960 at all. A good reminder the players can change and develop, right, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.760 But what else do you notice about that report? Some 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.520 nasty to his game. I've read that about Brewer, Driscoll, Gallimore. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.680 It seems like there's a prerequisite in the trenches down 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.719 here in Miami to be kind of a tough SOB 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.239 and looking at the report, like being inconsistent and getting 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.520 better technique. He has done that because you watch his 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.960 tape and it's all over his tape, consistent reps, consistent 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.520 wins with his hands, good grip strength, the ability to 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.480 deconstruct blocks. In that same NFL dot Com report, an 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.920 anonymous coach in the NFC so he didn't think that 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.200 his team would draft Tart because of the pandemic and 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.000 the lack of a medical report for him, but that 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.839 he could become a player in the league one day 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.799 just makes you think if he had had a shot, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.479 if not for his final season and being twenty nineteen 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.719 during the pandemic, and what a crazy time that was 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.920 for a lot of players who you know, coming from 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.960 a small school from CC like those are the kind 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.880 of guys that kind of got screwed that time of 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.640 our crazy, crazy universe. Here some numbers on him. Played 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.960 a career high five hundred and twenty snaps in twenty 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.239 twenty two last year was right around his sophomore season 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.680 total three seventy eight and three forty four alike, he 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.359 played a buck fifty five as a rookie. That's nearly 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.440 fourteen hundred snaps and they have been split with a 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.160 fifty four percent rate against the As a pass rusher, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.680 it's actually the exact same career pass rush rate as 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.839 Benito Jones, who I think is a better run defender 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.760 in his game, then I think Tart's better both run 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.919 and pass rush. But for Benito, I think the his 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.120 strength is the run game, whereas Tart maybe it's a 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:57.480 little bit of both. I don't know, but he has 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.000 forty three pressures, two and a half sacks, fourteen quarter hits, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.720 seventy nine tackles, seven passes defense, He made sixteen TFLs. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.040 When he wins, he wins fast, forty eight stops and 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.200 a pick, And that twenty twenty two season produced nick approximate. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:11.440 Value of eight. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.120 He was a four last year and a four and 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.039 twenty twenty one he was a one as a rookie, 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.000 So that twenty twenty two tape is really damn good. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:19.080 You go back and plug that on. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:20.960 The first thing that jumps out to me is the 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.520 first step quickness, Like That's why I laughed about the 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.240 report originally. From there, he just continues to pick up 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.440 and build speed. He's super quick and shifty. He uses 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.479 that jittery side to side action with a lengthy wingspan 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.400 and very good technique to shift and move and contort 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.359 his man to get the advantage on him. Regardless of 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.159 the angle that he rushes with, the Titans would usually 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.359 line him up as a one shade of some sort, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.040 think of either shoulder of the center. He's off of 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.880 that either left or right shoulder of the center, playing 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.240 either a gap, and when there's a backside run or 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:53.960 when he's on the backside, I should say where it's 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.400 the weak side of the formation, less players to that side. 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.279 He would align at this forty five degree angle where 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:00.880 it's like, I don't have a care about getting a 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.160 rib shot from the left guard right here. I'm going 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.200 to go stab the center and control this block this 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.120 backside a gap so I can detach no matter what 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.760 happens with the center, and then he would work to 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.160 get that displacement or knock back. Usually shocked him and 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.880 took him back a couple of steps or so towards 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.920 the strong side, and then if the play would roll 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.320 out strong, he has the ability to work to get 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:22.280 over the top with that. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:23.880 Hand placement, with that swim. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.040 You can't engage and swim over the top if you 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.000 don't have really good initial hand striking, and that's what 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.160 he has, and he has a good array of moves 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.280 to do it, and the most notable is that swim 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.440 with a quick swipe to the ribs, swim over the 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.640 top and get yourself in pole position and then use 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.960 the quickness to outrun them. But then he could also 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.320 play the backside cut, back lane and has such good 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.120 eyes and feel for when to hold the block, hold 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.520 the block, hold the plot, get off and go make 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.280 the play. Very very good smart player that way. Then, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.440 of course, other times he's aligned to the strong side 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.880 of the formation and his ability to penetrate the a 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.840 gap from there would then force backs to either extend 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.360 their track and bubble. And if back bubbles, that's what 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.400 you want, man take more steps backwards, allow our cavalry 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.760 three steps down to arrive. Because of that, he would 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.120 do that on the front side runs or if they 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.000 kept it to the backside. He has the angle kind 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.200 of ability to you, kind of like an edge rusher 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.360 who bends the arc to get upfield quickly, penetrate when 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.640 immediately across your man's face, and then wind it back 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.280 and flag it back down on the backside. Extremely quick 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.400 plays through power in the lower half. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:23.720 Of his body. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.640 He's just a squatty body, dumpy type of player, utilizes 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.560 a very nice wingspan that he offers to deconstruct those blocks. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.160 And if you go back and watch the twenty twenty 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.080 two tape, he and David Long had quite the propensity 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.959 for getting off blocks of much much bigger players. I'm 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.760 really curious see what his role here is going to be. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.320 He played mostly zero and one technique with the Titans. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.760 There was some three technique in there, but I don't know. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.079 I can't imagine he plays the nose too frequently because 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.839 that's just not Weaver has done in the past. He's 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.440 always had three hundred and thirty pound plus guys in 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.800 those roles. I would imagine he plays a lot more two, two, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.560 y and three technique here, and that's definitely you know, 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.120 your nose pass rusher on nickel rushing downs again, super 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.200 quick off the ball. Perhaps a platoon with Benito and 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.520 then additional snaps as a two or three in base 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.920 downs might be kind of the role I carve out 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.800 here for tier Tart in Miami. It's obviously tough to 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.680 stack up double teams when you're flat out outweighed, but 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.719 damn it if he doesn't give centers one on one, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.040 just a world of headaches with a nice combination of 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.800 speed and power. So maybe he can play that nose 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.640 tackle lot. I don't know's I'm conflicted there. I think 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.040 he figures to serve something of an Adam Butler role 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.320 as a nickel rusher. Do you guys, remember Adam Butler. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.720 He was so fast off the ball that really would 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.160 help stack up gaps and create runs for the linebackers. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.720 And the blitzing scheme of Flores and Boyer and Tart 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.320 has that kind of quick and ability to open up lanes, 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.080 and that combination of skills is what makes him so effective. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.200 He can load up a bul rush and take you 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.520 right to the quarterback that way, then the next snap 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.959 he can swipe and swim and you're over your skis 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.920 because you committed to initiating contact originally, try to cut 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.439 him off at the pass and not let him get 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.560 that power and that lower half extension into you. If 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.840 they double and down block him, he probably doesn't really 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:01.480 do much for you in that regard. That's kind of 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.439 the weakness I think here. That also happened with the 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.559 one hundred million dollar man in the cold game in 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.000 Kansas City last year too. Like not to be disparaging, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.760 but no player wins every time, and those types of blocks, 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.240 when executed well by the offense, are very tough to 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.280 get around. But that's really the negative I saw on 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.480 his tape. Maybe gives some ground on doubles, which is 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.200 why he probably gives up his spot on obvious rundowns 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.000 in heavy personnel, Like if it's twelve thirteen personnel, twenty 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.360 one personnel, probably get a bigger body in there to 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.040 play for Tartan he can come back on when they 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.280 go to eleven personnel. I don't know, guys, I sound 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:30.760 like a broken record here with this stuff. But these 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.880 kind of free agent signings that good teams make, these 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:35.719 are it. That's what they do. They don't go out 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.200 and make a splash at the top of the market. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.760 They just continue to stack up good quality football players 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.760 for affordable cost value, not paying out the nose for 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.720 one player, continuously building your depth. I just think we 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.440 are such a deeper football team than we were a 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.320 season to go. And I look at this D line 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.280 rotation and look like they're still the draft and udfas 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.360 and post June one and cut down day in August. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.520 There are multiple avenues ahead to adding to the roster. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.240 But look at this D line, Like, ideally Phillips, Chubb 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.960 and Seiler all play eight hundred snaps, right, but who 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.520 knows what two and fifteen are ready for? But healthy ideally, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.000 which is what you anticipate getting at some point this year, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.560 at some point in the season, for discussion sake, we'll 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.520 call it eight hundred snaps. And if you need five 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.400 thousand snaps out of five spots like Shaq Barrett's good 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.280 for a solid five or six hundred, give or take. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.320 And then I think that tart is another five hundred 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.560 plus level player, which takes us to like thirty one 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:30.079 hundred snaps. So nineteen hundred snaps for Benito, Gallimore, Hand Harris, 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.240 and Cam Good and then whatever comes of the draft slash, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.840 the rest of the offseason and the roster additions there. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.160 That's a very, very one on one way of looking 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.439 at it. But you certainly created a situation where someone 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.679 could step forward and sees a bigger role, or you 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.960 do now have the fallback option of making it up 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.360 in the aggregate. I think about it all the time, 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.719 how fortunate we were to not have injuries last year 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.680 to guys like Seler and Wilkins, because almost nobody else played. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.680 What would you've done, It would have been Brandon Peelely 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.520 and Deshean hand those roles. Now you have guys that 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.559 can step in and fill those roles and feel a 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.240 lot more comfortable and confident about it. So that's the 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.679 tr Tart skinny. I think we'll hear from him in 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.520 the media eventually this week. I'm not sure when that's 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.040 going to happen, but we'll keep your posts on that. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.000 Let's go ahead and take our first break right here. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.120 Come back on the other side and hear from the 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.960 fantastic Jordan Reid of ESPN. That's next Draft Time podcast, 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.640 your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation, 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.400 joined today by one of my favorite recurring guests on 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.000 the show. I say that for all my guests, but 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.120 I meet it once again today, Jordan Reid, ESPN. Jordan, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.760 appreciate you taking some time today out of your busy schedule. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.800 Man, No problem, thanks as all ways, there's always a pleasure. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.000 It feels like we're doing this every year now at 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.920 the combine and now here with just underw a month 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.520 until the draft now, so spun time is definitely for 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:44.400 the Dolphins now too. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.280 I'm very routine based, Jordan. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:47.880 I'll like have to just do things a certain way 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.960 and stick to that routine as best I possibly can. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.160 Before we start talking about these quarterback prospects in this 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.600 draft class, I wanted to ask you are you getting 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:56.600 any sleep this month? 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:57.760 I imagine for you. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.640 I know you're a father of two beautiful girls. With 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.320 the month of April ramping up the draft process, do 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.680 you sleep at all during April? 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:06.520 No, not at all. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.480 It's kind of like, you know this as being the 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.559 father of toddlers, kind of have to keep one eye 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.080 open when you do go to sleep, just because there's 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.640 draft and news that happened all different times of the 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.400 night and during the day. So it's kind of like 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.480 the lead up to Christmas. And that's what I compared 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.760 when I talk to everybody. So Christmas is always on 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.920 the twenty fifth. Then the draft is on the twenty 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.200 fifth this year, so once that month of December hits, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:27.960 it's kind of like the lead up to Christmas. For me. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.560 Well, I can't wait for it either. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.640 And we have Jordan on the podcast at the scouting 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.160 Combine to give you kind of a Dolphins overview. But 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.240 today I wanted to ask Jordan on the podcast to 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.400 talk about the quarterback class because white Frankly, Jordan, we 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.640 don't spend much time on that here, which I think 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.040 is a very beneficial place for an organization to be in. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.800 I remember for a long time for the Dolphins. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.760 Every year you had to examine all the quarterbacks and 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.720 I review all options because since Marino had retired, they 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.480 didn't have one for a long time. But now we 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.319 do have a pretty good guy into a tongue by Lowis. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.840 I wanted to start here and ask you a general 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.720 a couple of general philosophy questions about just how you 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.000 viewed scouting and also a very intricate question about this 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:07.559 year's class and what I want to go to here 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.200 is kind of a two part question, but I'll start 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.079 with this. I wanted to ask you who is the 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.240 best anticipatory thrower going back to tow a tongue bai 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.120 looa in this year's class, Like who do you think 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.200 it is? Because in correct me if I'm wrong here, but 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.200 when I watch the tape on a lot of these guys, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.160 a lot of the throwers will see it and then 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.680 rip it. I'm curious if you think that's accurate. And 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.400 who do you think is the best in playing on 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:31.040 time and in rhythm in this year's quarterback class overall? 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.720 I actually would say Bo Nicks of Oregon for this question, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.560 just because of all the guys who I thought was 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.680 the most decisive and then also attaching what I call 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.600 their eyes to their feet, so everything moving in motion 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.280 and in rhythm. I would go with bow Knigs just 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.840 because everything is just so easy for him, especially in 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:51.400 the shorts of intermediate areas. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:52.400 And he's really polished. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.840 I mean, the guy at a seventy seven percent completion 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.080 percentage last year, which was the tops in the country. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.080 He has a lot of experience too. I think that's 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.400 another fact of that he has over every other college 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.680 quarterback or quarterback coming out in this just class. He 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.280 plays sixty one career games, which is a lot retal quarterback. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.440 That is a wealth of experience for a college quarterback, 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.320 something that we have never seen before. As far as 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.880 that meeting, you're that high number of starts, and he's 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.880 a player that's really reinvented himself. When he first started 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.200 his career at Auburn, a lot of people rolled him 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.080 off after that, and then he goes to Oregon and 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.960 he looks like a completely different player. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.480 Now that's really interesting because and this is a fall 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.280 up to the first part of the two part questions. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.600 So forgive me for getting off off the rails already here, 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.000 but you know, I see these mock drafts and should 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.080 buy him you consider a bow Nix or a Michael Pennox, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.600 And I keep thinking to myself, like, you know, Tua 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.160 came out and he was twenty one years old, and 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.080 these guys are twenty three, twenty four years old. They're 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.880 going to be that age come this summer. I'm curious 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.920 is that a knock on prospects that have played that 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.960 many games in college? Like you mentioned that he ranmited 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.160 this game, But is there a sense in scouts minds 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.320 that sometimes like he should dominate these twenty year olds 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.160 because he's twenty three, twenty four year olds? Like how 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.240 does the age play into Michael Pennox and both next 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:01.040 as value? 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.640 I actually get that question a lot, and I've asked 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.720 general managers, I've asked executives and people that actually work 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.000 inside of the league. And the only time age becomes 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.480 a bad thing, and usually it's called a red flag 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.040 I'm on team's draft board, is when they're turning twenty 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.880 five going into their rookie season. So as long as 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.160 they're not twenty five going into their rookie season, it's 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.280 not considered red flag. Now, I haven't talked to every 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:24.640 team in the league. Every team is going to be 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:25.960 different based on how. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:26.360 They view it. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.320 But the teams that I have talked to, the only 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.800 time they usually red flag of prospect for their ages 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.640 when they turning twenty five going into their rookie season. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.120 And I've never seen experience being bad thing, and not 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.800 just talking about football but in life in general. The 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.880 more experience that you can get, the more reps that 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.960 you can get in college, I've always seen that as 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.040 a valuable thing, just because what you always worry about 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.960 with these young guys, whether they're twenty one or twenty 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.520 four entering in their first year in the NFL, is 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.360 how are they going to adjust to the speed of 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.960 the game. Well, the more experience that you have, the 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.280 more of those in game reps that you have is better. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.600 It's got a better prepare you for the NFL game. Now, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.760 everybody is different, everybody has different slopes as far as 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.960 how long it takes to adjust for the speed of 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.240 the game. But those reps, they definitely are significant, especially 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.520