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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 3: Take volatility.

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Speaker 4: We are the authority on all R and Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: My name is Tank, I'm Valentine. This is the R

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Speaker 4: and B Money podcast telling what it is the authority

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Speaker 4: on all things.

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Speaker 3: R and B authority because we have one of the

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Speaker 3: authorities on all things authority.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we don't take this word in this moment lightly.

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Speaker 1: Uh as it is light. It is extremely heavy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is not paper thing. It is not paper thin.

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Speaker 4: The way it has been paved and what shines upon

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Speaker 4: this path and has been trail blazed is a light.

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Speaker 5: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, No introduction is needed, but I

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Speaker 5: just felt the need to say a few words that

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Speaker 5: coincided with light, Ladies and gentlemen, the theeah MC Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 5: thank you, jeez.

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 4: Here's what, Here's what this this this, this moment is right,

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Speaker 4: this part is this is I don't know how often

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Speaker 4: you get to do this. This is to pop your

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Speaker 4: ship moment. This is the yes I am who I am.

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Speaker 4: That's what this pod is about. Talking about time fifty flowers,

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Speaker 4: all time flowers, and you are allowed to smell them

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Speaker 4: on this pod. I want to ask question in the beginning,

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Speaker 4: and I want you to step outside of yourself and

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Speaker 4: answer this. For me, what makes mc light timeless? What

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Speaker 4: do you feel the ingredients?

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, first of all, I try my damnedest to

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Speaker 6: stay inside my body. So you're asking me to step

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Speaker 6: outside of my body. Because we're always out right as

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Speaker 6: creative people.

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Speaker 7: We're always out, So get out. Look in timeless. Fearless.

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Speaker 6: Got to be fearless in order to be okay, to

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Speaker 6: move where you were to where you.

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Speaker 7: Want to be.

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Speaker 6: And so for me, being timeless has everything to do

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Speaker 6: with changing, with what is happening. Oh, at the same

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Speaker 6: time keeping who it is that you are at the core.

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Speaker 6: But for me, yeah, it's about realizing that change is

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Speaker 6: good and to implement it wherever it feels most natural.

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Speaker 4: Was that, Okay, you're you're really good? Like you're you're good.

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Speaker 4: I say that, and I asked you that because you know,

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Speaker 4: as I'm as I'm walking, I go on my snack

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Speaker 4: walk and and I'm listening to to the new records,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, you haven't missed the beat. Doesn't sound

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Speaker 4: like we're trying to figure out how to pay homage

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Speaker 4: to someone who was we are actually in the midst

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Speaker 4: of celebrating someone who is This is now like those records,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I can't wait to be in the

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Speaker 4: King video. If you haven't shot shot it already, we did.

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Speaker 4: I just want to be somewhere the album album is

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Speaker 4: done out.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I mean.

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Speaker 6: The wonderful thing about this new age of music you

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Speaker 6: know on all of the DSPs of streaming, uh, is

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Speaker 6: that people find it when they find it, and it's

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Speaker 6: it's new for them and it's invigorating for them. It's

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Speaker 6: no longer like.

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Speaker 7: This mad rush.

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Speaker 6: The record is in the stores on the shelves, and

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Speaker 6: if you don't go get it now, they're gonna return

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Speaker 6: all of them. This is no pressure.

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Speaker 4: It can be digested at a study pace, which is

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Speaker 4: which is great business for you, sure, but it's just

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Speaker 4: like that's not very that's not the easy feat to

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Speaker 4: be you and be able to be applied. This is

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four going into twenty twenty five. You've been

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Speaker 4: doing this and you sound and feel fresh as day

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Speaker 4: one on these records. I gotta give you.

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Speaker 6: That thank you, thank you, and that means a lot

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Speaker 6: coming from you guys who know everything R and B.

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Speaker 6: The authority, the authority authority, you know what. I kind

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Speaker 6: of can attribute that to Warren Campbell, who the master

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Speaker 6: executive produced the record, and he was just like, be yourself,

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Speaker 6: you know it was It wasn't this thing where sometimes

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Speaker 6: I can find myself in the studio with other producers

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Speaker 6: and they're like, we need you to put a little

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Speaker 7: O got it.

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Speaker 6: They doing this now, so you gotta do that, and

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Speaker 6: you got it. Wasn't any comparison. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 6: all because he likes to keep himself somewhat in the tunnel.

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Speaker 7: Of what he's creating and what feels good to him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is music. I about to say he is music.

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Speaker 4: He's a child prodigy, doesn't He doesn't have to listen

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Speaker 4: to any more music. He knows everything. I saw another

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Speaker 4: kirk In and Fred and all of them, and he

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Speaker 4: just did this musical bed for this song that had

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Speaker 4: been creat created many moons agof and he created the

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Speaker 4: musical bad for it. That was. That was the twin

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Speaker 4: identical twin like clone, if you will, the same everything

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Speaker 4: the same. I'm like, what is wrong with you? How

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Speaker 4: did you do that? He said, well, Tank, you just

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Speaker 4: got to know when you hear that sound, that means

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Speaker 4: you got to go to the overhigh and you hear

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Speaker 4: that sound, you know that's going to be in this.

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Speaker 4: I said, no, nobody knows. He knows that this too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that.

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Speaker 6: Well, what what's what's so great about even this record?

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Speaker 6: It was, you know, so many samples and at a

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Speaker 6: certain point, you know, we're dealing with the sample clearance

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Speaker 6: person and things are coming back so expensive to the

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Speaker 6: degree that I called up one of the labels and

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is just too much. I need

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Speaker 6: you to be on my side for a second. You know,

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Speaker 6: I have something to contribute to hip hop and I'm

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Speaker 6: this cost. And then finally Warren was like, okay, I

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Speaker 6: didn't want to have to do it, but I will,

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Speaker 6: and he went and replayed.

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Speaker 7: Everything is exactly like it.

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Speaker 6: Is exactly, and I thought I was, you know, kind

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Speaker 7: Because I was like, oh my goodness, what is going

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Speaker 6: It's like, I'm so used to this sound demo itis

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Speaker 6: and I was just used to it.

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Speaker 7: And you know, with samples, it's.

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Speaker 6: Compacted, and it feels so solid, like real food. And

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Speaker 6: I was afraid we were gonna get soup or you know,

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Speaker 6: things were going to be separate, but it just it's everything.

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Speaker 4: Chef worn, chef worn past, the elder chef. And and

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Speaker 4: you sound you sound excited like you sound you know,

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Speaker 4: you sound still very much in love with this process

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Speaker 4: like you sound. You sound bright. You don't sound like,

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Speaker 4: all right, let me get this one more like you

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Speaker 4: sound like nah, we.

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Speaker 7: We're about to do another one.

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Speaker 6: We got about maybe five that didn't go on this record,

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Speaker 6: and so we just go do five more, put it out.

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Speaker 6: It's like I heard Jazzy Jeff said, don't don't die

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Speaker 6: with anything, HM, give it all, give everything you've got.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna keep going till I don't have

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Speaker 4: And you should. I saw I saw some R and

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Speaker 3: Just he didn't see his name, you know is going?

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Speaker 3: Was I know what this is going? But he got

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Speaker 3: five more for this next project.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, sure enough, look to be looking for his name.

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Speaker 1: Look at it.

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Speaker 4: I know the context of the music. Okay, you do,

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Speaker 4: I can put some like I can put I can

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Speaker 4: keep clothes on. Yeah, okay, he's having I'm having a problem.

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Speaker 7: No, Well, now that we know, we can call you.

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Speaker 6: You know, you're so busy, you chap traveling the world,

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Speaker 6: snack walks and stuff. You know.

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Speaker 7: I just I just want we're coming after you.

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Speaker 4: I am available. It sounds, it sounds, and it is.

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Speaker 4: It is so good. It is so good. And I

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Speaker 4: anything less, but it just for me. It it just

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Speaker 4: of you, of this, of this timeless icon, this this

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Speaker 4: this gifted light that continues to shine in in any avenue,

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Speaker 4: in any arena, wherever. Whatever you're called upon to do,

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Speaker 4: you just you just seem to you you just are

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Speaker 7: Thank you so so much.

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Speaker 6: I'm just on a to still be able to do it,

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Speaker 6: to still have somebody. It's funny because during the record,

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Speaker 6: you know, Apion writes he's an MC And so we

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Speaker 6: or something, and he hit me up like Okay, what's

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Speaker 6: up when we're going back in? Yeah, And you know

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh not yet, Okay, well when we're

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Speaker 7: Can't really do it with anybody. I gotta go.

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Speaker 6: I gotta go inward and come out with what it

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Speaker 6: is that God is telling me. I need to deliver

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Speaker 6: you know, like all of these folks are reaching out like,

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Speaker 6: oh my God, like like yo.

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Speaker 7: You you put some work in. And so it feels good.

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Speaker 7: Chrus One, you know I grew up with her. He

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Speaker 7: hit me like that king.

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Speaker 6: Be called Flex, you know, like he just was like

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Speaker 7: I told him he's gonna be calling, and he was.

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Speaker 6: Like kind of setting things up for a win for me.

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Speaker 6: So that felt good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, your gift makes room for you and

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Speaker 4: the the relationships, the very good relationships and the things

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Speaker 4: that you've imparted along the way, along the journey, all

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Speaker 4: calming it to make this moment, you know, even more

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Speaker 4: special because it's just like you said, calling cats is

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Speaker 4: making place for your off the top. Like I was

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Speaker 4: immediate like oh yeah, when they shoot that video, men

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Speaker 4: that you shot it already, you got to keep it moving.

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Speaker 4: But it's just really done.

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Speaker 6: People love it to the King King video because what

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Speaker 6: I did is mis a gentleman named mister Upfront. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if you're aware of him, but he's been

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Speaker 6: shooting footage since like the mid eighties, and so he's

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Speaker 6: got all of this footage that we were able to

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Speaker 6: tap into so much that Vivo didn't believe that he

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Speaker 6: owned all the footage and so he wasn't gonna sit

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Speaker 6: there and do a licensing agreement for every piece of

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Speaker 6: footage that he put in there.

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Speaker 7: But we said, you know what, we're gonna put this up.

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Speaker 6: And it is that one video that guys are always

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Speaker 6: comments like, if you look in the comments, it's like

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Speaker 6: thank you, thank you, oh you see us, you love us,

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Speaker 6: Thank you to you and Queen Lati for doing this record.

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Speaker 6: And I thought it was really necessary because nobody's really

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Speaker 6: especially in hip hop, it's like everything that's wrong with

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Speaker 6: a man, let me tell you, right, right, Well.

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Speaker 4: It's just like we're coming out of it though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, personally, as music is starting to shift again. I mean,

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Speaker 3: It's starting to be more like it's starting to be

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Speaker 7: No, I love it.

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Speaker 7: I'm loving on you.

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Speaker 3: And if you're a leader of that, you know what

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Speaker 7: Well I was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because okay, so you it's crazy how things. You know,

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Speaker 6: Well, even when I said that's what I was going

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Speaker 7: What I already was going to do, which was going

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Speaker 6: So it just happened to be that it all kind

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Speaker 4: You had your record deal, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I got my record deal when I was in my

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Speaker 4: I got a record deal in high school.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and the record was on the radio. So I'm like,

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Speaker 4: Are you cracking? Are you acting out? Yeah? You acting?

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Speaker 7: It was a fun time acting Yeah, it's a fun time.

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Speaker 7: That's a good question.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I do have a record deal. I'm succeeding.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen this happened? Did you

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Speaker 7: For I cram to understand you.

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Speaker 6: That was the first single that was in the bottom

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Speaker 4: Do you get a record deal in high school?

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Speaker 6: I just went and at the time it was an audition,

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Speaker 6: And I got there and I sat my rhymes. You

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Speaker 4: Did they give you like this is what this is

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Speaker 4: Where you can expound, where you could build on like

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Speaker 7: Of just she's ready to go.

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Speaker 6: She's ready to go, and we're gonna let her do

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Speaker 3: Rock then, yeah, cause you were writing about yeah before

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Speaker 6: I know nothing, but you can say the rest.

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Speaker 7: Oh? I don't think so. I knew that.

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Speaker 7: And I was like, Oh, I'm gonna do radio. That's

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Speaker 6: And so that's why I was headed to Norfolk State

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Speaker 7: That's what I was gonna do. But not to the

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Speaker 6: I just I remember performing at Latin Quarters and later

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Speaker 7: Was like, okay, well we'll see.

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Speaker 6: It's great to have people who understand.

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Speaker 6: That you do, how important you know, respect for what

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Speaker 4: As well.

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Speaker 6: Who are worthy of friendship and since yeah, but those

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Speaker 4: Yea, I feel like.

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Speaker 3: That generation of music, I know what you're I know

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Speaker 4: It was a couple of artists that were Yeah, nineteen twenty,

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Speaker 3: You guys are meeting each other at a really young

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Speaker 4: But do you think that the messaging in the music

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you were a part of self destruction, You're part

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Speaker 4: And something that is that was that is that was

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Speaker 4: Of cheering somebody else song when they sing in lead,

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Speaker 7: No, No, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: There are.

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Speaker 6: There are moments where my whole thing is we cool,

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Speaker 6: that age where we can kind of pick and choose

445
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 6: what it is that we want to do. And my

446
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 6: thing is I'm immersed in work.

447
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 7: I love my work. So either will see one another on.

448
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 6: These bits, you know, these little bitty moments, or will

449
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 6: create something together so that you know, let's let's do

450
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 6: a movie, let's do a song, let's do you know.

451
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 7: Whatever the case is.

452
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. I want to. I like this

453
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: this little list right here that says accolades. So I

454
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: don't know. Honorary doctorate of music, humanitarians, I too have

455
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: a honorary doctorate and and and the masters as well.

456
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: They're not gonna give me one because I'd be talking.

457
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: I've done the work, Jay, I've done the work.

458
00:27:53,480 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 7: That's terrible. Trophies right, those are your agrees.

459
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award, President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris,

460
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 4: Philanthropy Hip Hop Sisters Foundation, over a million in scholarships awarded.

461
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. That's awesome, thank you, that's awesome. Health advocate

462
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: official spokesperson for the Johnson and Johnson Mayaloma Awareness National Campaign.

463
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: What don't you do? I bet you, I bet I

464
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: can kill you if you break out with young nigga.

465
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 7: You don't want this, That's what I don't do you.

466
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: So, were these all things that were just kind of

467
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: along your journey or did you plan out some of

468
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: these things, like this is some of the stuff I

469
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: want to be a part of, even before you know,

470
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: because as we're working and things are coming to you,

471
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: obviously you're saying yes or no the certain things. But

472
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: did you have did you set out for any of the.

473
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 6: Only thing, the only thing on there that I set

474
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 6: out for was the Hip Hop Sisters Foundation to give

475
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 6: scholarships away to give people further in their education. Everything else, yeah,

476
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 6: just came. But I guess you're planning for it with

477
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 6: the work that you actually do.

478
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, and how did the foundation start?

479
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 6: Oh goodness, Well, I had used my name or allowed

480
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 6: people to use my name with other foundations for other causes,

481
00:29:51,600 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 6: other campaigns, you know, musicians for art, AIDS, awareness, gun

482
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 6: anti gun violence, you know, all those types of things.

483
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 6: And then finally I was like, I want to start

484
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 6: my own foundation. But it's not so easy to find

485
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: an executive director.

486
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 7: You might know that.

487
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 6: But so at some point doctor Lynn Richardson saw Hip

488
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 6: Hop Sisters, which at that point we were on ning

489
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: you know, the Ning platform. We had about two thousand

490
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 6: women MC's, DJ's, journalists, photographers, everybody who was really into

491
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 6: hip hop music and they could join us and men

492
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 6: could join too.

493
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 7: Just as long as you respected the women in the space.

494
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: And so she saw that and she was like, wow, well,

495
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 6: before I was a graduate of Northwestern, before I was

496
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 6: an executive at JP Morgan, if I was hip hop,

497
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 6: I'm going to reach out to light. And she reached

498
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 6: out to me and asked me, did I want to

499
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 6: start a foundation? I was like, you gotta be kidding me. Yes,

500
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 6: of course I do. And about four months later we

501
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 6: had five and one C three status and we were

502
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 6: giving away scholarships.

503
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 7: That's how it started.

504
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: How long have you guys had the foundation?

505
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 6: About fourteen years now and our last.

506
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 7: Her last efforts were with a partnership with Dillard University HBCU,

507
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 7: New Orleans.

508
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Television projects rhyme.

509
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 6: Oh that's the little baby that went away.

510
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 7: We did two seasons. It was great.

511
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: I think it was just too clean because my thing

512
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 6: is I was trying to create the Yesteryear sitcom where

513
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 6: everybody could sit down and watch it.

514
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Family.

515
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, the family. And so we had we had

516
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 7: a good spend. Now I'm playing a dirty detective.

517
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: But it's on Angel Angel. Yeah you're dirty detective.

518
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: Well, you know, she's in a rush to somebody got

519
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 6: to go down for this crime. Now it may not

520
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 6: be the person that did it, but somebody somebody's going

521
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 6: to do sea.

522
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: Yeah that dirty.

523
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's dirty.

524
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: That's dirty. Maybe they may be guilty of something. It's

525
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: just calmer coming to bite your children's book.

526
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's coming this Christmas with a full push.

527
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 6: That's with Van Van.

528
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

529
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, I think the last time I saw

530
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 6: you all, Van Van might have been there. I don't

531
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: know if you all got a chance to speak to her.

532
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 6: But she's a hip hop sensation. She just released her

533
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 6: first album, her debut album at five years old. During

534
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 6: the Essence Festival, she performed on the main stage at

535
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 6: the Convention Center. She let me perform with her. Yeah, five,

536
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 6: we have a song called too Bold with Rhapsody the

537
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 6: Bratt and myself with Van Van five.

538
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

539
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 6: Well she just turned six earlier this month, but yeah,

540
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 6: she's five, bro. Yeah. She introduced the Queen Latifa segment

541
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 6: that I produced for the Kennedy Center Honors last year.

542
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 7: So she's.

543
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

544
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: So we have a book coming together and this Christmas. Yeah, Okay,

545
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: what's the name of the book?

546
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 6: Rhyme Time Adventures with fan Van And that is so awesome.

547
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: Nice. Nice. Her ecosystem is crazy already.

548
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 6: She's a part of doggie Land. She plays a character

549
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 6: on doggie Land called Vancy. Yeah, she cooking animated series.

550
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: You are a distinguished member of the Hip Hop Council

551
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: of the Kennedy Center.

552
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 7: This is true.

553
00:33:53,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: Distinguished And then they got running by you.

554
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 6: It's a lot of us and there was always a

555
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 6: vote involved. But what that relationship has allowed me to

556
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: do is some really great, some great content at the

557
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 6: Kennedy Center. So we did I Am Woman a couple

558
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 6: of years ago. We brought all the female MC's into

559
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 6: the Kennedy Center that hadn't performed there before.

560
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 4: So we had Remy.

561
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 7: Ma and the Brat and and.

562
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 6: Then we went back last year and we did Rhapsody

563
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 6: and Cash Doll.

564
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 7: And Bahammadia carry it up a little bit.

565
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 6: And this past year, as a matter of fact, I

566
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 6: reached out That might have been while I reached out

567
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: to you, because I talked to Tyresee about doing a

568
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 6: Mother's Day special and he was like, Okay, you gotta

569
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 6: you gotta get tanged, you gotta get to you.

570
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: Reached out about Mother's Day.

571
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: He was booked. Oh yeah, he was booked for that.

572
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: You were booked for Mother's Day.

573
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 7: So it was him. I was talking to.

574
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: No about the show. Yes, about the show, about the show,

575
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: look at that about the show?

576
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: Was me? Nobody definitely told you that Tank said what

577
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: you want?

578
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 6: That might have been. That was another year.

579
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 4: Ever say Tank said what you want?

580
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 7: That was another year.

581
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: I know I got to see you in these streets.

582
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: I would never no way. Here's my question to you. Yes,

583
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: as you observe the terrain a female rap at the moment,

584
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts?

585
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 7: Mmmm?

586
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: I think there's so many, so many You know that

587
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 6: it used to be like that and then everything went away,

588
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 6: and then you.

589
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 7: Know, Nikki came on the scene. It was crushing it.

590
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 6: Like she was everybody's songs.

591
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: To people to put in category with her. Yeah she was.

592
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 4: She's that good.

593
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 7: Yeah exactly.

594
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 6: And so you know, now the day that we're in,

595
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: we've got so many that are coming from different, uh

596
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 6: geographical spaces as well as content. But what it is

597
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 6: that they're talking about, how it is that they dress.

598
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 6: So to me, to see this many feels like we've

599
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 6: turned the corner on them believing in themselves, because that's

600
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 6: the first order of business. If you don't think that

601
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 6: you can do it, or you don't really consider yourself

602
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 6: a business, it's not gonna it's not gonna really go

603
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 6: down for you.

604
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 7: Or it'll come up and then go down for you

605
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 7: very quickly.

606
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 6: And so I like to see the ladies making their

607
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 6: moves and looking at themselves as a viable business and

608
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 6: putting people to work.

609
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: I think the female dominance in R and B and

610
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 4: hip hop has been has been very apparent for the

611
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: last five six years. I know, we've been getting not

612
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 4: ass kicked. Women have just been rocking, and I think

613
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: that you know, they've they've they've been able to do

614
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: something that all of us haven't been able to do,

615
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 4: and they've been able to do it on the mainstream

616
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: is continue to remain vulnerable and remain emotional, where for

617
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: a lot of us, I mean, I musta still do it,

618
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: but for a lot of us it was kind of

619
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: it started being frowned upon as this whole you know,

620
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: pimp and play age kind of emerged. We don't you know,

621
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: we don't really need women and we have called them

622
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: out their names and all that kind of right as

623
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 4: that kind of took over, it took us out of

624
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: the R and B space.

625
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: You know what's so funny is I remember I was

626
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 6: somewhere backstage and that song that Neo had stripper something, Yeah, yeah,

627
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 6: because I was. I was really upset about it because

628
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 6: I had learned to trust him with the sexy love

629
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 6: and you know, he had so many that was just

630
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 6: so warm and you know, cuddly feelings, and then he

631
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 6: had stripped something and I was just like and so

632
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 6: I saw him backstage.

633
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 7: I was like, Yo, what's up. Yeah, I was like, what's.

634
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 4: Up, dude? Okay, my question. Yes, he can't like sexy

635
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 4: love and strippers because.

636
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 7: He can't like whatever.

637
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he could like whatever he likes, right,

638
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 6: I just you know, it's I put a lot of

639
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 6: trust into what it is that I listen to, and

640
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 6: I'm only going there because I know that that's trustworthy.

641
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 6: And it just shocked me. But when I asked him,

642
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 6: he was like, you know what, it's kind of what's happening.

643
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 6: It wasn't even like he was attached to it like

644
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 6: I did it, what it was like, I understand where

645
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 6: you're coming from, Like.

646
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 4: I do you feel like that as an artist?

647
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: That you know because even when you were when you're

648
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: reading off your hits, they're not all the same.

649
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 7: M hm.

650
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: Really there's a variety, and as you were saying, you

651
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 4: were evolving at times. So yeah, sometimes you know it may.

652
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 7: Go a little further, let's expected.

653
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: Do you feel like as artists should we be held

654
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 4: to what is? You know, what is maybe.

655
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 7: Of us a step on the ladder.

656
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: Or a willhouse in a sense. Right, what's your thoughts

657
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: on that?

658
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 7: I'm going to give you my thoughts on that. I

659
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 7: was asked somewhere else.

660
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 6: About just my take on music and all of the

661
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 6: profanity and all of what exists. I know that when

662
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 6: I put Kars one, I'm not gonna hear him say

663
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 6: something that's derogatory towards women.

664
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 7: Same with Heavy D.

665
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 6: I'm not going to turn on Heavy D and get

666
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 6: something about some violence. He was the lover man, and

667
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 6: there are just some areas where I felt like I

668
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 6: wanted to say something to him.

669
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 7: Did I have the right?

670
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 6: He could have told me to go get kick rocks,

671
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 6: like but I'm a true fan, and I just wanted

672
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 6: him to know that it's okay to keep doing that thing,

673
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 6: like don't it's it's a hut to what it is

674
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 6: that he just you know offered, and that is there

675
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 6: was this bubble of time where people are you know,

676
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 6: climbing in to say whatever it is they want to

677
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 6: say about women, and you know, it just was a

678
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 6: space where I wanted him to remain what it was

679
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 6: that he had given to us that felt so good

680
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 6: because there weren't many people doing it.

681
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: You know, He's been one of the best ever well

682
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 4: to do that. Yeah, I understand what you're.

683
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 7: Saying, but yeah, I mean.

684
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 6: Maybe when I did Roughneck, people wasn't into rough Neck.

685
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 6: You know, it could have been somebody that was older looking,

686
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 6: like what is she doing with them? All them crazy

687
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 6: looking folks in the video, you know, all the rough people.

688
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 6: But those were the guys that I was growing up

689
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: with around the time.

690
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 7: You know, those were.

691
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 6: The roughneck Caribbean from every you know, island in the water,

692
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 6: from Jamaica to Haiti to Barbados. Those were the guys

693
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 6: that I was making a tribute.

694
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: To, right, So, yeah, lyricism or entertainment.

695
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 7: That's such a blanket statement.

696
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: Which one weighs more to you?

697
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 7: Which one weighs more to me? Lyricism?

698
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: Like, if you're looking for an artist right now? Yeah,

699
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, yeah, twenty twenty five, Yeah, you

700
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: are looking to sign an artist.

701
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

702
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: That is heavier on the lyric.

703
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 6: As opposed to entertainment. Okay, so now you're painting a

704
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 6: whole picture. Okay, so that's business.

705
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 7: So entertainment m hmm.

706
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 6: For my listening ear nothing to do with signing anybody.

707
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 7: I'm looking for the lyricism. That's what gets me, you know, excited.

708
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 4: Who's your favorite lyricist right now?

709
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: Zoom?

710
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: You don't have to say me.

711
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 7: You know who are you know who I enjoy listening to?

712
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: Uh?

713
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 7: Vic Mensa?

714
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, super talented, super talented. Yeah, I like him, super talented,

715
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 4: super talented.

716
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 6: There's so many others, but like, how often do people

717
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 6: say Vic Mensa?

718
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: You know?

719
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 6: It's like I want to give some shine to him already.

720
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 7: Know, Kendrick is all you.

721
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: Know, because yeah, he's a serious, serious lyricist.

722
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 7: That's why I said him.

723
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: Who's your favorite lyricist right now? I mean.

724
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: It's Kendrick for me personally, I mean and and yes,

725
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: I know it's the popular statement, but it's been that

726
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: way for me for a long time where I just

727
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: feel like I get I get a different type of

728
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: feeling and storytelling when I.

729
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: Listen to Kendrick, what is the feeling. The feeling is.

730
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: A bit of an uprising, you know what I mean,

731
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: Like it makes me feel like doing something.

732
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 4: And it's funny because you talked about gym.

733
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: I work out the Kiddrick, you know what I'm saying,

734
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: Like I work out to King Kuntam, You know what

735
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, you know, we can talk about the

736
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: disc records and that whole thing and that and that

737
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: in that moment of time, but that's not a highlighted

738
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: part of my appreciation of his music, you know what

739
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 3: I mean. Like I'm I'm really tapped into the damn

740
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: album into you know what I mean, mister Morale album,

741
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: Like I really listened to it and I follow his

742
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: life in it of the life that he's giving me

743
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: in music, you know what I mean. I do know

744
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: him personally as a friend and we see each other

745
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: say what's up, but not like the in depth side.

746
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: So I feel like the in depth side is a

747
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 3: little more in his music of what he's what he's sharing,

748
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: you know.

749
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 4: What I mean.

750
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: So I love the storytelling in it. I love the

751
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: storytelling in it. Like I'm I'm big on you know.

752
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: As as a writer, I want to be able to

753
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: close my eyes and feel like I've been somewhere, you

754
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: know what I mean in the in that song and

755
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: that story, and I feel like he I feel like

756
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: he's a person who paints pictures and I don't.

757
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: Feel like yeah for like all artists pank pictures. Nope,

758
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: I get it, you know what I mean. Which I

759
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: think we should mm hmm, you know what I mean.

760
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's cool when you you you have

761
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 3: these situational songs of like you jumped to one part

762
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 3: of a situation to another.

763
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: No, like I'm looking for like walk me through this

764
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: day and let me have a.

765
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: So your daddy met top one.

766
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 7: That's crazy to me.

767
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: That is we know, I'm all for that. You really

768
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: have a you really have a gift when you can

769
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 4: do that. Yeah. And so as a as a lyricist

770
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: for me that.

771
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 7: I'm all about that storytelling.

772
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from a hip hop side, it's Kendrick

773
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: and then from an they try to say she's not

774
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: R and B, but I believe she's R and B

775
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: sis Okay, you know what I mean, Like it's an

776
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: alternative and it's it's alternative R and B and that.

777
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 4: That girl is singing her heart out R and B songs.

778
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: But like listening to songs like kill Bill and it's

779
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: like right, you know, I told Punch when he was here,

780
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, scared me.

781
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: Make a girl feel like that, because that's you know

782
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: what I mean. But when songs give you those type

783
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: of emotions.

784
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: You having a song like Georgie Porgie, like I literally

785
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: listened to that as a kid, and I'm listening to it,

786
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, man, like this is a real movie.

787
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 6: Those came from, you know, Carol King and Carol Bear Sega,

788
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 6: James Taylor and real players and you know, just listening

789
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 6: to those story to those folk songs.

790
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 7: Really had me. And it's funny because I think they.

791
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 6: Had KRS one too, because he'll use a couple of

792
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 6: like a Dion Warwick you know thing.

793
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 7: And so would.

794
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, okay, we see and Daylight Soul.

795
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 6: You know, you see the artists that have an appreciation

796
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: for storytelling.

797
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but Melly Mel with.

798
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 6: That message, that was it for me because I had

799
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 6: never been to the Bronx, so it was like.

800
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 7: Wow, this is what the Bronx looks like.

801
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 6: And he painted the picture so well that finally when

802
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 6: I did see video and I did go to the Bronx,

803
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 6: I was.

804
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 7: Like, oh got it.

805
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 4: It was familiar. Yes, indeed, I think I think n

806
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: w A was that for ice Cube particularly? Oh yeah, absolutely,

807
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like painting that picture of

808
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: what LA and Compton coast right right? Like what is

809
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 4: Compton right right? And where can I get a Raiders coach?

810
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: Because they didn't even have the man and none of

811
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: the stories they had me gone.

812
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 4: I knew all of the words from the clean versions

813
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: because church kids, that's all I can only get on

814
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: the box, I knew all of them. They were painting

815
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 4: a picture so crazy about this place called Comping that

816
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 4: I wanted to go to really with my rat.

817
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: I got here, he asked if he was going to

818
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: play this thing?

819
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 6: Did you know how I wrapped on the remix for

820
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 6: Maybe I Deserve.

821
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: You?

822
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 4: Sure did?

823
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: I sure do? That's right, but the remix.

824
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: But I talked about you. Sure did. Yeah, I've been

825
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: to like can we find that verse? Absolutely?

826
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 7: It's online, is it?

827
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been rocking with like I gotta she said

828
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 4: you deserve, I tell you, I got it. I've been

829
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: I've been doing this. Yeah, back then, probably Toxic record Tank.

830
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 7: Maybe I deserve.

831
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 6: I think I was telling him what he didn't deserve. No, no, no,

832
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 6: I think I was saying what you.

833
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 7: Deserve. I deserve. I can't remember the angle I can.

834
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, absolutely, I'm pulling that. Yeah, I remember that.

835
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 7: Had to be. When did that record come? Two thousand,

836
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 7: thousand and two thousand remix?

837
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 4: Probably two to two thousand and one. Yeah, yeah records.

838
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: He makes his first hit, Yeah, my first. That's why

839
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: I would never send a message ask her what she

840
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: wants to do. That's been blessing me. You found it,

841
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 4: he found it. Distinguished board member, see Light. You are

842
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: part of so many iconic moments, the voice yourself, Lovos.

843
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 4: We know along the way there's been some tunes, wholesome

844
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: tunes that have blessed your soul. We would like to

845
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: know what those tunes are. Here we call that show

846
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 4: m hm up.

847
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 7: Your top five, Yeah, your top.

848
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: Five reason.

849
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: Long, We gotting new be.

850
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 4: No, you know you Long dude.

851
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: We want you to gay.

852
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 4: Yes, you.

853
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 7: Let me tell you it pays to be in church

854
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 7: in church.

855
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 4: Bank okay, right, Yes, your top five R and B singers?

856
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 7: This is groups too?

857
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 4: Is your list?

858
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 7: Earth Winding Fire?

859
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, brothers. I'm just saying I just saw Ron Ansley,

860
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: did you personally? Just sitting at the bar and in

861
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: Mr Childs in New York. Of course he was looking

862
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: like he owned the place, being mister because he is.

863
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: I need you to write me some records, Tank, No

864
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: problem there. When would you like that?

865
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 7: Wait?

866
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: Say it again, I need you to write me some records. Tank.

867
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: I don't forget about me?

868
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 7: How could I? So that's three.

869
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 6: This is just someone that I go back to every time.

870
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 6: It's Lionel Richie and Lionel Richie and.

871
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 7: The Commodore mm hmmm.

872
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: Both yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's two different voices, Yes.

873
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 7: Different voices, two different types of songs. Yeah, and both of.

874
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: Them are legendary.

875
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 7: I think that's it. Fine, got too spots, I'm gonna

876
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 7: keep it back then.

877
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: No one's ever got got spots? Who could get to Spot?

878
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 4: You know? Who could get to Spike? Jackson.

879
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: No, Little Michael and Big Michael. No Mike, no, Mike

880
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: Jackson and Jackson five Jackson.

881
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 4: Not even one of the He's the greatest kid singer. No, no, no,

882
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 4: who oh no, you can't fool with Mike. They can't. Nope,

883
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: I ain't going now.

884
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: Stevie is another conversation, Stevie, Stevie.

885
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: I respect Tavin, Tevin was Michael Michael. This is what

886
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: I'm coming from. I'm wrote better than Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson,

887
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: he's the voice, his voice.

888
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: There are only two people's songs that kids have to

889
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 3: sing when they come sing.

890
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: For you, Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonders. Those are the two.

891
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: It's it's because they were classic songs, of course, sing

892
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 4: with classic voices. I'm not going to discredit that. But

893
00:55:49,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 4: Tevin Campbell's amazing. Tevin Campbell on Quincy Jones, Tomorroro, Welp,

894
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 4: I respect it, I respect it. I respect it.

895
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, it's it's no wrong answer.

896
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 4: I respect your answers.

897
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: Well, Michael Jackson could have got two spots, I think,

898
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 3: I think, and Steve could.

899
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 4: Do you think? Do you think Lionel Richie and the commodoors.

900
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: Which one is stronger, the com Line Rich and the

901
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 4: Commodorees or the Jackson five. I'm still the Jackson five.

902
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: Mm hm. Ushered in an error. I'm not arguing with

903
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 4: you because I was gonna say, Joe to cy and

904
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 4: Casey and Jojo could get two spots same voice though,

905
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 4: same voice, because that was the thing that you you know,

906
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 4: it was like it's literally two different voices for for

907
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 4: Lino at those times. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean,

908
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: you know.

909
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a grunt.

910
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been singing different people. He sang with two

911
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: different people.

912
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, one with the seasoning, one without.

913
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: What's that chicken were talking about earlier?

914
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: I don't care your top five R and B songs?

915
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

916
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 6: Well because you all talked about Stevie, he might have

917
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 6: two spots.

918
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got so many.

919
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, smash as. I'm gonna say, ass, leave that right there.

920
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 7: They'll never be.

921
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 4: Steak that the first two spots.

922
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 7: Caught up in a rapture.

923
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: Why not? Yeah, why not?

924
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 7: It's something about that pretty wins really.

925
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: Right. That came on the other day.

926
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: I was just on my one of my playlists. I

927
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: just yeah, yeah, mm hmmm.

928
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 6: I think it's maybe where I was in my life

929
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 6: when it came out.

930
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 7: It's just a very feel moment. How many is that before?

931
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: No? Three, No four? To Stevie's No, I didn't do it.

932
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 7: I didn't do a second Stevie yet, I just did as.

933
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 6: Okay, they'll never be switching switch yeah, as just keep

934
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 6: it as they'll never be around.

935
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 4: And then pretty pretty. So that is.

936
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say human nature.

937
00:58:49,960 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, great songwriting, Yeah, I just it's like, but why no, no, no, no,

938
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: it's just some of the greatest musicality, some of the

939
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 4: greatest lyric some of the greatest vocal that we will

940
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 4: ever hear. Like those times as you speak on Stevie

941
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: and Michael and the Commodores and Anita Baker Luther, it's like.

942
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 7: I can't get it back. Fuck yeah, how do we.

943
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: Get back to that m Every every piece was important,

944
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 4: every piece, every person in that room. We just we

945
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 4: continue to make the music. Quincy said, Quincy go through

946
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 4: eight bass players.

947
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 7: Right right until send people home.

948
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 4: Until it's not someone else. It's not it's not hidden.

949
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: Like really listen to those Isley brother records.

950
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: It's a movie. It's the reason we have to keep

951
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 4: earth win in fire.

952
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 6: It's why we have to keep sampling it.

953
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: It's why we have to keep running it back, because

954
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: you can't recreate it. Yeah, what are we missing?

955
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

956
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: I'm saying that as a creative, it is an ultimate creative.

957
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 4: What are we missing? Because that is fucking different?

958
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: It is, But nobody was saying that's good enough. It

959
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: was do it again, m hmm, until it was oh

960
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: that's perfect. I feel like, and you may you may

961
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 3: see it different, but I feel like the more I

962
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 3: go to studios when I'm in sessions and sometimes I'm

963
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: a fly on the wall where I'm just there. I

964
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: went to go see somebody, say what's up?

965
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 4: And I'm sit in the back and I listened to.

966
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: The producer and whoever the vocalist is, and they're like, oh, yeah, we'll.

967
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: Get we'll clean that up. Oh that did not exist.

968
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: We'll clean that up. Did not exist?

969
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, not exist.

970
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: There was no cleaning up. No, it's sing it again

971
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 4: and again. And we've been singing this song for four days,

972
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 4: is what it is.

973
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: But now you have artists like man I could have

974
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: wrote the whole album, and that album may not stand

975
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: the testa time, because I guarantee you, thriller was not

976
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: made in four days.

977
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: Promise you, thriller wasn't made for all. Promised you wasn't

978
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: made all.

979
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 7: I'm in agreement.

980
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 4: And we're still to this day.

981
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: Talking about these songs, these albums, those vocals, those mixes.

982
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 4: The instrumentation, Like, we're still talking about that. And to me,

983
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: I think that.

984
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: Era now, you know, relying so heavily on technology, the engineer,

985
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: or just.

986
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: A crediting laziness to a vibe.

987
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 7: Oh ouch, you know that reminds me.

988
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 6: You know, we've heard several stories from other people on

989
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 6: how Jay doesn't write lyrics. Jay doesn't have to write lyrics.

990
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 6: Some of you others need to write lyrics. You need

991
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: to see what it is that you're saying.

992
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he but he has a he has a

993
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 3: different gift one. Yes, but I guarantee you he's wrapped

994
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: that over and over in his head. Now, I'm you know,

995
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't think that it's oh, I'm just blurting out anything.

996
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: He's not a blurt out anything, extremely calculated. So he's

997
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: walking around reciting.

998
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 4: Formulating, and then when it's time to get to work, boom.

999
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm rehearsed right, rehearsal getting right when somebody tell you like, okay,

1000
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 3: these are the this, this, this, this is the lines

1001
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: are you're going.

1002
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 7: Through them right?

1003
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 6: You know with Milk back in the early days, they

1004
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 6: would you know, I would say the rhyme and then

1005
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 6: you know, I would want to be done.

1006
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 7: I'm done. They'd be like, uh, you know what I

1007
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 7: think you need to come in and do it. I

1008
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 7: was like, okay, what do I need to do?

1009
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 6: And then he'd have to find the words that I

1010
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 6: could actually understand to be able to go in and

1011
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 6: give him what it was that he was asking for.

1012
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 6: And now it's systematic, like when I'm writing, there's a

1013
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 6: better way to say that, there's a better way to

1014
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 6: say this. We're not gonna rhyme that just because it's

1015
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 6: shock value. I'm over shock value. Let's make it have purpose.

1016
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 6: And that takes time. And that's what they were doing

1017
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 6: in that day. It wasn't a rush. They enjoyed the

1018
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 6: process of being in the studio. If it took, you know,

1019
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 6: eight days to get through one song or singers that

1020
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 6: were there with the intention of we're gonna get this,

1021
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 6: so you're gonna say it as many times now, it's like,

1022
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 6: say it three times and I'm gonna catch the best

1023
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 6: parts of it and kind of clink it up together.

1024
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 7: I think you hit something with that.

1025
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 4: They've also made us calculate the expense of taking our time,

1026
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: but the sessions are cheaper. I it's a milik because

1027
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 4: everyone has home studios now now. But that's now what

1028
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 4: got us out of it though.

1029
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: Right, was the expense of being in a fifteen hundred

1030
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: dollars two thousand dollars a day studio.

1031
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 4: Especially if making R and B, because we needed the works.

1032
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 4: I can only imagine what the thriller sessions, cause.

1033
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 7: That's level I mean.

1034
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 4: But it also is the grading selling album.

1035
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 6: And the size if you're going for something of those studios.

1036
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, like just knowing just hearing the stories of Michael

1037
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 4: and how he moved and recorded in all the rooms

1038
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: that he didn't use and would show up and then

1039
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 4: be missing for two months, and are you kidding me? Yeah, okay,

1040
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Just when you started naming those songs, it

1041
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 4: just it just struck something like that music is. It's

1042
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 4: still shaping my life every time I hear those songs.

1043
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 4: When we hear those hows the do.

1044
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, if I ever make it back, I'll

1045
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 6: give my favorite new.

1046
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 4: Well you don't have to.

1047
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 7: That's okay, because I gotta think about it, all right.

1048
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 4: H I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

1049
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 4: I ain't saying no names. Ain't saying no names. Was

1050
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 4: we's weird what you did? Don't say ship saying name? Yeah?

1051
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 7: He looked like, go.

1052
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: We here we here we at that were at that

1053
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 4: part of the show. Will you tell us the story? Yeah?

1054
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: Funny and fucked up funny? Oh, the only rude to

1055
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: the game. You can't say no names.

1056
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 7: I can't say no names. Mmm. I you know. I

1057
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:18,959
Speaker 7: remember going out with this guy and.

1058
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 6: We were in my car and I was driving, but

1059
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 6: I had to go do something.

1060
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 7: I had to interview Salt and Pepper for Word Up magazine, and.

1061
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 6: I was dropping him off so that I could go

1062
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 6: do that, and then I was gonna come back and get.

1063
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 7: Him, and he took my hand and put it in

1064
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 7: his mouth and bit.

1065
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 6: The I had to pull my hand out of his mouth,

1066
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 6: and I was like, what is And then he took

1067
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 6: the key out of my ignition And at that point,

1068
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 6: I'm just I already know I'm not coming back to

1069
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 6: get him.

1070
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 7: Once I hit him out.

1071
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 6: Of my car, he said, so what you're gonna do.

1072
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 7: You're gonna call your daddy. And I was like, oh,

1073
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 7: this Nigga's crazy. No, just stop playing. Let me get

1074
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 7: the key. I'll be back.

1075
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 6: So you're coming back. Yeah, just give me the key,

1076
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 6: all right? And I never saw him again to this day.

1077
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: That's what you know. Maybe he was a rough neck.

1078
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 6: Never, No, that was more than a rough nck. That

1079
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 6: was accountable. He tried to eat my hand right.

1080
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 4: Now, just because you had somewhere to go.

1081
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 7: I don't I think it was his way of playing.

1082
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 4: I was about to say, I think he was flirting.

1083
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 6: He was flirting and he was testing the waters. Yeah, yeah,

1084
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 6: he comes back.

1085
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: Oh I'm really good.

1086
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 7: Whatever for ladies, the red flag I made.

1087
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: Girl, he's so crazy.

1088
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 6: Good for me, I knew better. And I've never seen

1089
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 6: him since. I mean I've seen him, but not we

1090
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 6: have never seen one another. And he is an R

1091
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 6: and B singer, all right, Yeah, that's not what we all.

1092
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: We don't do that. As as as a distinguished member.

1093
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: Nigga, stop biking. Hopefully she can't go where she can't

1094
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: don't bite.

1095
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 7: Her and take her can stuck take a car key.

1096
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 4: They're gonna put the kids to bed. I should be

1097
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: in a bait my way. Uh wow? And and you were.

1098
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 6: You were like, yes, absolutely, I was on my way

1099
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 6: to interview. Matter of fact there someone sent it to

1100
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 6: me maybe about two weeks ago through a d M

1101
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 6: the cover of the Word Up magazine where I interviewed

1102
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 6: Salt and Pepper.

1103
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 7: It was like celebrities interviewing celebrities.

1104
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 4: You guy have some balls.

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Speaker 2: Or not?

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Speaker 7: I wonder does he even remember that he did it?

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01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 7: Though I was a failed attempt, He probably forgot it

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01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 7: was like or somebody else got bit and they're like, oh,

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 7: I know who that was.

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01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 4: Already know what the they about to be looking r

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Speaker 4: r rm Bier. I'm so sorry you went through that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you made it out. Thank you, We we love you.

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for this.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you.

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01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 7: I appreciate you.

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01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 4: And I think I think that a collaboration of you

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Speaker 4: and Jay on a hair care product.

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Speaker 2: Is.

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Speaker 7: That right?

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm the whole time, for real, the whole time,

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01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, these motherfuckers is wave keep my being I'm

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 4: not making the cut. I did not know that's what

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01:11:53,280 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 4: your hair is always always waving. I'm glad to be

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Speaker 4: putting it.

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Speaker 7: Listen. It was a rough morning.

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01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't tell.

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 7: Let me try to get this together.

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Speaker 4: Hey, we hold you in high regard and thank you.

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Speaker 4: We support you, We appreciate you. Anything you ever need

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Speaker 6: The One of One album is out. Now Make a

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Speaker 6: Living is the latest single.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, check it on out.

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Speaker 4: Please, awesome, awesome, thank you. As Killer Mike saying she's

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Speaker 4: wrapping her ass off, yeah, he was wrapping her ass off.

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