WEBVTT - Rerun: The History of Cyber Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech and Happy Cyber Monday, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm sure we're all aware, this year, being in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a pandemic is a very different year

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<v Speaker 1>than previous ones. And uh, I'm sure you all were

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<v Speaker 1>very well aware of how that impacted Black Friday, with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stores moving their sales up well into

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of November to start, and then running them

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<v Speaker 1>constantly in order to get those those you know, products

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<v Speaker 1>moved when you know that you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do those like door buster sales of years past. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thankful for that, not for the pandemic. I hate that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm thankful that people would not get trampled upon

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<v Speaker 1>in an effort to get one of six televisions that

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<v Speaker 1>have been marked down, you know, or something that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought that since we had a holiday week previously,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that while I'm recording this, I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for Thanksgiving, that we would listen to an

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<v Speaker 1>episode I recorded and published two years ago in ten

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<v Speaker 1>and originally published on November twenty one, The History of

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<v Speaker 1>Cyber Monday, so that we could kind of get a

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of where this phenomenon came from and why it exists.

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<v Speaker 1>So enjoy this episode from the History of Cyber Monday. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I'd changed things up a bit and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the history and evolution of cyber Monday. So where

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<v Speaker 1>did this come from? And are the deals on cyber

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<v Speaker 1>Monday really great? And I guess the answer to that

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<v Speaker 1>second question is essentially, uh, it depends. But first let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some history. So before there was cyber Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>there was Black Friday, both in the sense that Black

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<v Speaker 1>Friday as a thing is older than Cyber Monday, and

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<v Speaker 1>also cyber Monday is the Monday that follows Black Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>so technically it's true in two different senses. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what is Black Friday? One of the United States?

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday is the friday following Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States falls on the fourth Thursday of November, at

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<v Speaker 1>least it has ever since nineteen thirty nine, when Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>Delano Roosevelt moved the holiday up a week from the

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<v Speaker 1>final Thursday of November. Now, since November two thousand eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>started on a Thursday, November one was a Thursday. That

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<v Speaker 1>means that two thousand eighteen will see Thanksgiving fall as

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<v Speaker 1>early as it can, which means November twenty two, the

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<v Speaker 1>latest it can fall in the month is November. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving in the United States. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there is an apocryphal story that says the origins of

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday are deeply racist and tied to the United

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<v Speaker 1>States history with slavery. According to that story, slave traders

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<v Speaker 1>would sell slaves at a discount on the day after

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving to help plantation owners who are going to want

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase more slaves to do work leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>the winter. That's a horrible, horrible thing. But the story

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<v Speaker 1>isn't true at all, And honestly, I find it hard

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that slave traders would respond to an increase

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<v Speaker 1>in demand by lowering their prices. They already seem like terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>terrible human beings. I don't think of them as being

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<v Speaker 1>particularly altruistic. However, we can put that whole explanation aside. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone tells you Black Friday is based in slavery.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not true. The term Black Friday in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to the day after Thanksgiving did not appear in print

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<v Speaker 1>until the nineteen fifties. As far as we can determine.

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<v Speaker 1>There was, however, an earlier version of Black Friday, though

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<v Speaker 1>that was not the day after Thanksgiving. That Black Friday

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't associated with a holiday at all, but rather with

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<v Speaker 1>a stock market crash that happened on Friday, September twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty nine. The cause of that crash was that

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<v Speaker 1>there were two speculators named Jay Gould and James Fisk,

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<v Speaker 1>and together they were able to drive up gold prices

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<v Speaker 1>way way up while they were trying to corner the

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<v Speaker 1>market on gold on the New York Gold Exchange. They

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<v Speaker 1>had even planted a story to convince US President Ulysses S.

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<v Speaker 1>Grant to stop gold sales. They had this report that

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to hurt farmers out west. Meanwhile, they

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<v Speaker 1>bought up as much gold as they could and that

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<v Speaker 1>raised gold prices as a result. So they thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna be rich. They're gonna buy up the gold

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<v Speaker 1>and then they could sell it off at these elevated prices. However,

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<v Speaker 1>President Grant found out about it, and he ordered the

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<v Speaker 1>release of millions of dollars of gold to be made

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<v Speaker 1>available on the market, and that caused prices to crash.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly there was way more supply, and this crash ended

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<v Speaker 1>up affecting the stock market as well. However, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a moment of acute pain. It was a sharp depth

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<v Speaker 1>in the stock market, thus the name Black Friday, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the long termment that the nation was actually able

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid a more persistent depression, so it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>turning out better than it otherwise would have. The earliest

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<v Speaker 1>known reference to the day after things Giving being Black

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<v Speaker 1>Friday dates to nineteen fifty one from a periodical titled

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<v Speaker 1>Factory Management and Maintenance that it was a real page turner,

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<v Speaker 1>But in that article, the author was describing this tendency

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<v Speaker 1>for workers to call in sick the day after Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>and really they were just trying to make a long

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<v Speaker 1>weekend out of the holiday, because at that time it

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<v Speaker 1>was not commonplace for most businesses to close down on

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<v Speaker 1>both Thursday, the day of Thanksgiving, and Friday. So this

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<v Speaker 1>piece was sort of sardonically comparing the malaise being felt

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<v Speaker 1>by workers across the nation to the Bubonic plague also

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Black Death. Everyone would just mysteriously be

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<v Speaker 1>sick that Friday and not show up to work. It

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<v Speaker 1>would take another decade before we would see the name

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday associated with shopping for the day after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>This would come out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The local police

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<v Speaker 1>force there would refer to that Friday and that Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>following Thanksgiving US both Black Frida Day and Black Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>This was because those two days had become the busiest

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<v Speaker 1>shopping days of the year. Thanksgiving leads into the holiday season,

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<v Speaker 1>and in post World War two America, the holiday season

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<v Speaker 1>was beginning to be associated and has been since with

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<v Speaker 1>lots of material gifts. Consumerism was on the rise. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people had a lot more discretionary income and

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<v Speaker 1>a desire to spend it. So the police referred to

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<v Speaker 1>Friday and Saturday as Black Friday and Black Saturday because

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<v Speaker 1>of the headaches that came along with all that busy shopping,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly in the form of stuff like traffic problems and shoplifting,

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<v Speaker 1>Plus the fact that this rise in activity meant it

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<v Speaker 1>was virtually impossible to get the day off. If you

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<v Speaker 1>were a Philadelphia cop and you would probably have to

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<v Speaker 1>put in an extra long shift to boot, so they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really like it. Now, in the nineteen eighties, a

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<v Speaker 1>new version of the history of Black Friday popped up,

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<v Speaker 1>and this version claimed that the name Black Friday stemmed

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<v Speaker 1>from the fact that it was on that day that

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<v Speaker 1>many merchants would finally see their annual figures show a profit.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea was that the enormous amount of business on

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<v Speaker 1>that Friday would take businesses from operating at a loss

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<v Speaker 1>or operating in the red in other words, and pushed

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<v Speaker 1>them toward profitability or operating in the black. Thus black Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that refers to the practice of denoting losses or

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<v Speaker 1>negative numbers in a ledger using red ink and positive

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<v Speaker 1>numbers using black ink. And while that's a cute story,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, you know, real. In fact, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stores see more sales on the Saturday before Christmas because

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<v Speaker 1>lots of Americans are procrastinators. But this fictional history of

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<v Speaker 1>the origin of Black Friday took hold in the American

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<v Speaker 1>psyche had to go along with it. Stores began holding

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<v Speaker 1>big sales to bring more and more shoppers into their stores,

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<v Speaker 1>and this strategy worked, and every year we would see

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<v Speaker 1>more efforts to make it even bigger with stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>door buster offers, so called because those sales offer seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>huge discounts right at opening hours and are typically those

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<v Speaker 1>those figures, those those amounts, those discounts are only available

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<v Speaker 1>for a very short time, or the inventory for those

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<v Speaker 1>products is so small that the store will no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>sell out within minutes of opening, or both in many cases.

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<v Speaker 1>So often these sales are tied to an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>move older merchandise out of stores to make way for

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<v Speaker 1>newer products. So stuff like electronics, particularly big ticket items

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<v Speaker 1>like televisions or small appliances, tend to take up some space,

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<v Speaker 1>and manufacturers want to come out with new models every year,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to H. Tam Burakowski of Wirecutter, large appliances

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of a an exception. You rarely see big

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<v Speaker 1>significant markdowns on large appliances, but small appliances and televisions,

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<v Speaker 1>which can get pretty darn big these days, they can

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<v Speaker 1>get marked off quite a bit, and mostly in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make room for new models. Black Friday opened up

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<v Speaker 1>a chance for stores to offload older stuff, perhaps at

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<v Speaker 1>a discount, after sales had slowed down considerably. So By

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties, Black Friday was established as the formal

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the holiday shopping season, and while some online

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<v Speaker 1>service providers like compu Serve would introduce online shopping in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties, it was a far distant second to

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<v Speaker 1>shopping in physical stores. It had barely registered. It really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until the mid nineteen nineties when Netscape one point

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<v Speaker 1>oh incorporated the Secure Socket Layer Protocol the SSL protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when online transaction could be considered truly secure for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. That led to the possibility of turning

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet and specifically the Web, into a commerce destination.

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<v Speaker 1>Sites like Amazon and eBay helped usher in a new

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<v Speaker 1>era of commerce, making it practical and then desirable to

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<v Speaker 1>shop online. While those two sites saw a lot of success,

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of e commerce also saw a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of businesses rush into that space without really forming a

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<v Speaker 1>strategy around it. After the dust would settle in the

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<v Speaker 1>wake of the dot com bubble implosion in the early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand's, companies began to take a more measured approach

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<v Speaker 1>and e commerce started to come into its own. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five, a marketing team led by Ellen Davis

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<v Speaker 1>at a company called shop dot Org introduced the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of cyber Monday. This would be e commerce's response to

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday, the sales pitch road itself. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>leave your comfortable home and brave potentially bad weather and

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed terrible traffic to fight your way into a store

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<v Speaker 1>only to find out that the thing you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>buy has already sold out. Why risk getting hurt or

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<v Speaker 1>worse as single minded consumers shove and elbow and kick

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<v Speaker 1>their way to get the last tickle me Elmo doll

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever must have items happened to be on sale

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<v Speaker 1>that year. Why not instead sit at home and order

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<v Speaker 1>your holiday gifts online and have them either delivered to

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<v Speaker 1>you or even to the people you plan to give

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<v Speaker 1>gifts to. You take out the whole step of having

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<v Speaker 1>to take the gifts to the people. Cyber Monday was born.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain more in just a moment, but first let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break to thank our sponsor. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of cyber Monday didn't just arrive out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 1>For a few years, leading up to two thousand five,

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<v Speaker 1>analysts had seen a boost and online line sales on

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<v Speaker 1>the Monday following Black Friday, they had seen this trend happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe some people were late to the game and

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't able to land a deal on Black Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe some of them weren't able to get hold of

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<v Speaker 1>that must have item in a physical store, so now

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking online. But whatever the reason, by two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand five, Cyber Monday was one of the busier online

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<v Speaker 1>shopping days of the year, but not the busiest, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>not even in the top ten. By two thousand five,

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<v Speaker 1>it was more like the twelfth most popular shopping day

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<v Speaker 1>online at that point. But the Cyber Monday marketing idea

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<v Speaker 1>would change that. So the media, here's about this idea

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand five, and they jump all over this

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<v Speaker 1>concept of Cyber Monday. And this is no surprise. News

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<v Speaker 1>about sales tends to get a lot of attention, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's in print, audio, or television spots. You've probably seen

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<v Speaker 1>countless articles and videos that lists the biggest Black Friday

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<v Speaker 1>or Cyber Monday deals. There's a whole industry around this.

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<v Speaker 1>There are groups that start putting out information about it

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<v Speaker 1>before November even starts to talk about the big Black

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<v Speaker 1>Friday or Cyber Monday deals that are coming down the line,

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<v Speaker 1>so media outlets were highly motivated to take this new

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<v Speaker 1>concept and to run with it. Online retailers would get

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<v Speaker 1>on board too, because the media coverage amounted to free publicity,

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<v Speaker 1>and they started to see their sales increase. So two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand five was a good start. Analysts estimated the online

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<v Speaker 1>retailers saw about four d eight four million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>sales collectively on that Monday that year. But the retailers

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<v Speaker 1>would prepare themselves to really push for it in a

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<v Speaker 1>big way in the years to follow. By creating promotions

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<v Speaker 1>and sales tied to this concept of cyber Monday, they

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<v Speaker 1>could actually increase sales dramatically over a typical shopping day online.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and six, CNN ran a story that

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out that certain sought after items were being really

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<v Speaker 1>scarce in brick and mortar stores but were available online.

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<v Speaker 1>The article had the title for e tailors, It's Cyber Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had a subheadline that said traffic tracking services

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<v Speaker 1>showed a fifty increase in Internet traffic at various online

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<v Speaker 1>commerce sites on that Monday. The sought after items included

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like the PlayStation three gaming console from Sony Nintendo's

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<v Speaker 1>we gaming console and the aforementioned Elmo, though this one

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<v Speaker 1>was the Tickle Me Elmo t m X. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, just as a side note, I actually watched

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<v Speaker 1>a video of that Mo toy for this podcast because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nothing if not thorough in my research, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't remember this toy. That's why I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the tickle Me Elmo TMX? How is that different

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<v Speaker 1>from the Tickle Me Elmo, which was a doll that

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<v Speaker 1>would laugh and vibrate like crazy whenever you activated it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the video, I saw Elmo as a toy

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<v Speaker 1>that could stand up is actually standing, and you would

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<v Speaker 1>activate it by pressing certain points on the doll and

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<v Speaker 1>it would start to laugh and it moves its arms

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually it bends over like it's laughing so hard

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<v Speaker 1>it can't stand up straight. It falls over onto the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and then ultimately at the end of this it stands

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<v Speaker 1>itself back up. The best part about this story is

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<v Speaker 1>while I was watching this, my coworker Noel Brown, who's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hosts of Ridiculous History, walked up behind

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<v Speaker 1>me and he asked me what the heck was I watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he didn't use those words. He he was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more coarse in his language, but upon explaining it,

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<v Speaker 1>he shook his head and walked away. That's the typical

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<v Speaker 1>response I get here at the office. In two thousand seven,

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<v Speaker 1>online sales were up to seven hundred thirty million dollars. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>in December two thousand seven, the United States entered what

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<v Speaker 1>was later called the Great Recession. This was when the

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<v Speaker 1>real estate market collapsed, which in turn made mortgage backed

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<v Speaker 1>securities issued by banks to fall in value dramatically, and

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<v Speaker 1>that in turn threatened the solvency of various financial institutions

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<v Speaker 1>like those banks, that led to the government bailouts of

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<v Speaker 1>banks and businesses began laying off workers and eliminating jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>It doubled the unemployment rate in the United States until

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<v Speaker 1>it hit ten. Now, the reason I mentioned all of

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<v Speaker 1>that is because, despite this economic downturn, online retailers would

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<v Speaker 1>see a year over year increase in sales from two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand seven to two thousand eight two thousand seven seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million dollars two thousand eight, eight hundred forty six

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars despite the economic downturn. Now, one possible reason

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<v Speaker 1>for the higher number is that people weren't just looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a good deal in two thousand eight, they needed

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<v Speaker 1>good deals. People still wanted to buy presents for friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family, but money was tight, so sales were more

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<v Speaker 1>important than ever. An online seemed to give the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>access to those sales. The holiday season in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>eight also saw a rising battle between traditional retailer Walmart

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<v Speaker 1>and online giant Amazon. Amazon would take the number one

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<v Speaker 1>spot according to traffic tracking services, with an increase of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one more traffic year over year. Walmart, by comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>only saw a six percent increase. More importantly, for Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>it became the most popular online destination for commerce on

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<v Speaker 1>Cyber Monday. In two thousand nine, com Score, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a data analysis firm, published a report that said forty

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<v Speaker 1>one point six percent of all online shoppers were logging

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<v Speaker 1>in from home, but fifty two point nine we're logging

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<v Speaker 1>in from work. So maybe that don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to work itis bubonic plague that prompted that initial article

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<v Speaker 1>that gave us the term Black Friday for the day

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<v Speaker 1>after Thanksgiving, maybe that now extends to everyone on the

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<v Speaker 1>following Monday. They might be at work, but instead of

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<v Speaker 1>actually working, they could be scouring the Internet for the

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<v Speaker 1>best deals in lowest prices, same as it ever was.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Walmart would strike back against Amazon in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine when when it announced cyber Week and set

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<v Speaker 1>the chorus for things as they are now. This extended

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<v Speaker 1>the sales that Walmart was showing off for a full

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<v Speaker 1>week following Thanksgiving. That would prompt other retailers to follow

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<v Speaker 1>suit in and would also be when Cyber Monday would

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<v Speaker 1>become the busiest online shopping day of the year, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been that way ever since. Ten was also the

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<v Speaker 1>first year that Cyber Monday sales would top one billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>But just to put things into perspective, that same year

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<v Speaker 1>saw shoppers visit real world stores to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>ten point seven billion dollars in sales. So Cyber Monday

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<v Speaker 1>was a big success, but it was still trailing far

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<v Speaker 1>behind Black Friday and traditional stores. The next year in

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<v Speaker 1>c NBC rather predictably reported that Black Friday and Cyber

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<v Speaker 1>Monday had effectively gloamed together to create this mutated beast

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<v Speaker 1>of a long shopping weekend, and we were starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see sales extend further out in both directions. From Black Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>While this also had the effect of cannibalizing some of

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<v Speaker 1>the sales on Friday and Monday themselves, Ultimately, I'm pretty

0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.679
<v Speaker 1>sure merchants don't really care when they're link stuff. They

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<v Speaker 1>just care if they are selling it and how much

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<v Speaker 1>they're able to sell. In two thousand twelve, we would

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<v Speaker 1>see another shift in consumer behavior, one that would shape

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<v Speaker 1>the way retailers would target customers. More shoppers, nearly twenty

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<v Speaker 1>of them, began to use smartphones to look at cyber deals.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a twelve increase from the previous year and

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<v Speaker 1>also an indication that mobile browsing was the future. And this,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, was something the entire online content world

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<v Speaker 1>was starting to realize. Right around this point. Anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>worked in that world, such as yours, truly was starting

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<v Speaker 1>to think about ways to optimize content for the mobile experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It was clear that companies that could make their online

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<v Speaker 1>experience a positive one, no matter what sort of device

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<v Speaker 1>someone might use to access it, would be well ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. That included e commerce sites, which began

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<v Speaker 1>to invest more money in creating user interfaces for their stores,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for smartphones. In all, consumers spent one point four

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<v Speaker 1>six five billion dollars in online shopping on Cyber Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand twelve, Electronics, computer hardware, and video games

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<v Speaker 1>all experienced huge jumps in sales gains year over year,

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<v Speaker 1>but the top performing category according to com Score was

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<v Speaker 1>in digital content and subscriptions. Also by two thousand twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a pretty much even split between people buying

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<v Speaker 1>stuff while surfing the web from home and those who

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<v Speaker 1>were still on the clock at work. In two thousand thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>fashion websites began to finally get in on this Cyber

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<v Speaker 1>Monday game. Clothing retailers like Old Navy started to launch

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<v Speaker 1>their own Cyber Monday deals, taking advantage of the same

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<v Speaker 1>shopping frenzy as other retailers. And this actually reminds us

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<v Speaker 1>that one of the values of these days, both Black

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<v Speaker 1>Friday and of Cyber Monday to retailers, in large part

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<v Speaker 1>is due to the fact that we as consumers have

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<v Speaker 1>been conditioned to shop on those days. So many people

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<v Speaker 1>are already in a mindset to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to buy stuff, and by leveraging that from

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<v Speaker 1>the retail side and pairing a good deal or two

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of it wherever you can just makes

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<v Speaker 1>really good business sense. In two thousand fifteen, Target announced

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<v Speaker 1>it was offering up a fifteen percent discount across all

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<v Speaker 1>of Target dot com for Cyber Monday, showing that the

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<v Speaker 1>big retail businesses were really playing serious at this point

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<v Speaker 1>and in things would really go crazy as the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of cyber Week took hold for more retailers. I'll explain

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<v Speaker 1>more in just a moment, but first let's take another

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<v Speaker 1>quick break to thank our sponsor so In. According to

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<v Speaker 1>com Score, retailers saw eleven billion dollars in sales during

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<v Speaker 1>cyber Week. Now that started on Monday, November and it

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<v Speaker 1>ended on December four. Cyber Monday itself accounted for nearly

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<v Speaker 1>two point seven billion dollars in sales all alone. And

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<v Speaker 1>not only that, but starting on Thanksgiving Day, e commerce

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<v Speaker 1>sites collectively saw more than one billion dollars of sales

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<v Speaker 1>every day for eleven days straight. It drove the holiday

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<v Speaker 1>season sales, which combs scored defined as starting on November

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<v Speaker 1>one and indian on December four, to achieve nearly thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight billion dollars in sales. That's a ton of money. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, one two million people in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States did some online shopping on Cyber Monday, but on

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday only one hundred sixteen million Americans did any shopping,

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<v Speaker 1>and that includes sixty seven point nine million people who

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<v Speaker 1>were doing online shopping. So in twenty sixteen, Cyber Monday

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<v Speaker 1>pulled ahead of Black Friday as the busiest shopping day

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States and all without having to line

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<v Speaker 1>up in front of a store at three in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>In comm Score reported that consumers spent three point three

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>six billion dollars on Cyber Monday from desktop computers, so

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<v Speaker 1>just from desktops. According to the Verge, purchases made from

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<v Speaker 1>mobile devices accounted for another two billion dollars in sales.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to multiple sources, although this doesn't really match

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<v Speaker 1>up with the com Score numbers, the collective Cyber Monday

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<v Speaker 1>sales efforts in seventeen amounted to six point five nine

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in sales. Now, if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>sales figures from Thanksgiving through Cyber Monday, online sales amounted

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen point six to billion dollars, truly an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>sum of money. Now, according to a survey from National

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<v Speaker 1>Retail Federation as well as a company called prosper Insights

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<v Speaker 1>and Analytics that partnered to make this survey. Fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>million Americans chose to do their holiday shopping online, only

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one million chose to shop only at physical stores,

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<v Speaker 1>and more than sixty four million Americans did some combination

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<v Speaker 1>of the two. So while online shopping has definitely pulled

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>ahead of going to actual brick and mortar stores, there's

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>still a place for those physical shops. They are not obsolete.

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<v Speaker 1>People are still shopping there in droves, just they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it more online. The Wall Street Journal reported that brick

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<v Speaker 1>and mortar stores did see a decrease of about four

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<v Speaker 1>percent in the number of people visiting those stores in

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the same time in TWI so we are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing fewer people going to these stores. It's not quite

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where I would want to try and

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<v Speaker 1>go out on Black Friday. I think there's still way

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<v Speaker 1>too many people out there, but we're getting there now.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a growing concern that by extending these deals

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<v Speaker 1>out from Black Friday and Cyber Monday, the whole Cyber

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<v Speaker 1>week thing, and the Black Friday sales that start two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before Thanksgiving, that these sales are going to lose

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>their luster. And again, part of what drives so much

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<v Speaker 1>sales activity are the limitations around the sales dates. If

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<v Speaker 1>you make items available only for a limited time at

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<v Speaker 1>a lower price, it drives up consumer interest and it

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<v Speaker 1>encourages shopping. You just introduced that idea in a customer's

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<v Speaker 1>head that the thing that kind of sort of wanted

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<v Speaker 1>is only going to be at a discounted price for

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<v Speaker 1>a short while, and then you're more likely to move

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<v Speaker 1>them to actually buy that thing. But if you extend

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<v Speaker 1>the sale out, you make it less special. You dilute

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<v Speaker 1>that effect to some extent, and the danger is that

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately you'll start to see sales slow down or worse yet,

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<v Speaker 1>decline as a result, because people don't feel compelled to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and buy that thing because it's been marked down.

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<v Speaker 1>As for what is driving the popularity of online shopping,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is opportunity. More people have access

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to getting online than ever before, and for many people,

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>working at a computer is part of their job, so

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they can easily access these deals whether they're at work

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>or at home. For other people, a smartphone and a

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>credit card is really all they need to get some

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>shopping in, so even if employees are limiting their online

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>shopping to just times when they're on break and they're

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>not actually trying to snag a deal on the company dime.

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<v Speaker 1>You would still expect to see growth in this field,

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<v Speaker 1>just because we're seeing more penetration in computer access and

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<v Speaker 1>internet access. The National Retail Federation predicts that in retailers

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>will see an increase in sales between four point three

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>percent and four point eight percent. That's actually a step

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>down from the increase in twenty seventeen that was at

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<v Speaker 1>five point five percent. Over the figures, but it still

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<v Speaker 1>means that we're going to see more sales this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would mean that the entire holiday season, not

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<v Speaker 1>just Black Friday and Cyber Monday, but during the course

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>of the holiday season, we will see sales between seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred seventeen point five billion dollars and seven twenty point

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<v Speaker 1>nine billion dollars, getting close to a trillion dollars in

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>sales over the holiday season. That is crazy. So now

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<v Speaker 1>let's get down to brass tacks. How do you find

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<v Speaker 1>good deals? Well, like I mentioned earlier, deals are happening

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<v Speaker 1>before and after Black Friday and Cyber Monday, so those

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<v Speaker 1>days don't really matter as much in the grand scheme

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<v Speaker 1>of things. By the time you are listening to this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>on the day that it publishes, deals are already going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon typically leads the charge, and I imagine part of

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<v Speaker 1>this strategy is that they're trying to head off all

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<v Speaker 1>the retailers at the past. They're trying to get ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of them, get ahead of Black Friday, because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>limited amount of money out there. Right, Shoppers are only

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend so much this year, so Amazon wants

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<v Speaker 1>to get ahead of all the other deals to get

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<v Speaker 1>as much of those dollars as it possibly can. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal with business, right. Online sales are actually best

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<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving Day, typically with an average discount of twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Categories of stuff that tends to have the biggest discounts

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<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving Day include things like sporting goods, computers, video games,

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<v Speaker 1>and clothing. So if you're shopping for any of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>set aside some time on Turkey Day to pop online

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<v Speaker 1>and check out some deals. But if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy something like a television or a tablet, computer, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a small appliance, your best bet for the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>discount online is actually Black Friday. Not Cyber Monday, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no need for you to jump in a call

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<v Speaker 1>are and head to the local mall. You just go online.

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<v Speaker 1>Online sales tend to be best for those items. On

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<v Speaker 1>the old traditional shopping day, Cyber Monday is still great

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of different deals, but if you're really

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<v Speaker 1>in the market for something new, or you're looking to

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<v Speaker 1>save the most money on gifts Thanksgiving and Black Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>or when you should pop open the computer and hunt

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<v Speaker 1>around a bit. It's also a great idea to do

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<v Speaker 1>some research on the various items that are for sale.

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<v Speaker 1>You might find that the discounted items are ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are not really the best in their class. They might

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<v Speaker 1>lack some interesting features. This happens a lot with television's.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see a lot of TVs get marked way down.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if you do a little research, you might find out, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because that television doesn't have a particularly high resolution

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<v Speaker 1>or it's got a lot of limited features. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you realize, well, yeah, I can buy a television for

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>super cheap, but it's not necessarily a good TV. So

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to do that research. And just because something

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<v Speaker 1>is being sold at a big count doesn't always mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth buying. Also, it's not a bad idea to

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<v Speaker 1>look around to see what the price history was of

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<v Speaker 1>certain items. Every now and then a retailer will mark

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<v Speaker 1>up an item just before a big sale, and that way,

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<v Speaker 1>when they put in the discount, the sale price is

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<v Speaker 1>really not that different from the original price of the item.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be that in October you could have bought

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<v Speaker 1>something for five dollars, and then going into November it

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<v Speaker 1>gets marked up to six dollars, But then the discount

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<v Speaker 1>means that they're selling it for four seventy five dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like a bigger discount because the original

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<v Speaker 1>price appears to have been six hundred, But if you

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<v Speaker 1>go back just a little further, you see that the

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<v Speaker 1>price was lower earlier. Just be careful. Sometimes that deal

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<v Speaker 1>that's too good to be true is too good to

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<v Speaker 1>be true. Online holiday sales tend to feature pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>deals leading all the way up to Green Monday. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Green Monday is the second Monday in December and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just ten shipping days out from Christmas Day, meaning if

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<v Speaker 1>you wait any longer, you may not have enough time

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<v Speaker 1>for your order to get to you before the gift

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<v Speaker 1>giving festivities occur in That day falls on December ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and the name Green Monday actually comes from the site eBay.

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<v Speaker 1>eBay coined the term Green Monday in two thousand seven.

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<v Speaker 1>That was after they had noticed that this particular Monday

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<v Speaker 1>had some of the highest sales of the year. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the busiest online shopping day for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>Cyber Monday would pass Green Monday in two thousand nine

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<v Speaker 1>during the Great Recession, and then Cyber Monday would ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>become the busiest online shopping day and Green Monday would

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<v Speaker 1>fall quite a bit. But it's still very popular online

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<v Speaker 1>shopping day. In fact, now I think it's climbed back

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<v Speaker 1>up to number two. It was down in its number

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<v Speaker 1>five for a while, but I think it's back up

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<v Speaker 1>to number two at this point. So until Green Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>you're likely to see some pretty good deals online. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is the history and evolution of cyber Monday. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's some combination of marketing, some combination of psychology, some

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>combination of just trying to capitalize on already established consumer habits.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to know all of these elements because it

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<v Speaker 1>informs you before you start making decisions on what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna buy and who you're going to buy it from. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>small Business Saturday is still a thing, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>really like it. I like supporting small local businesses when

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<v Speaker 1>I can, because you can get some really unique stuff.

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I know that that's redundant to say really unique, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can get stuff that you can't find anywhere else

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<v Speaker 1>from a lot of small businesses, and you support people

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<v Speaker 1>who are working really hard to keep those businesses go.

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<v Speaker 1>A m I mean paying a little more for the gift,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also probably mean the gift means a little more,

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<v Speaker 1>so it all evens out right. I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that episode about the history of cyber Monday goes

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<v Speaker 1>into not just tech obviously, but economics. But then a

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of my topics do spill over into that because,

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<v Speaker 1>as we have understood for a long time, tech does

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<v Speaker 1>not exist in a vacuum unless it's a spacecraft in space,

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and then it then it does exist in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta come up with a better a better phrase. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys enjoyed that episode, and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with a new episode very soon. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to give you, guys something didn't want to skip a Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I also didn't want to make super producer Tari

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<v Speaker 1>have to work during a holiday because I mean, she

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>deserves her time off, probably more than I do. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have suggestions for future episodes of tech Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to me. The best way to do that

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<v Speaker 1>is on the Twitter. The handle is tech stuff hs

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