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Speaker 1: earlier this year. You may be blunt, but direct and honest,

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Speaker 1: last season ended, but I'm hopeful. My question to you is,

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Speaker 1: Before Tom could say anything, himself or even Haskins tweet

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Speaker 1: The media thinks that's the media gives away all their

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Speaker 1: comps are very, very hard because your cops always like

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Speaker 1: used Adam Feeling and a Joan Bolden. I mean, those

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Speaker 1: guys are elite players. I mean probably not Hall of

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Speaker 1: famers either one, but like Pro Bowls, touchdown make dominant players,

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Speaker 1: most guys in the league are not. That. It's why

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Speaker 1: I like, I remember Christian McCaffrey was coming out and

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I think he's gonna end

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Speaker 1: up being more of a receiver and be like Julian Edelman.

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Speaker 1: Now I was wrong when he was healthy. Uh, Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey's way better. He's just he's an elite player. Now

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Speaker 1: he can't stay healthy. But I think trying to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think this guy's like Hunter Renfro But you just

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Speaker 1: you'd rather say, like, I think this guy's Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: Now Hunter Renfro is pretty good. But you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, you you always like, I think this guy

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Speaker 1: could be like Josh Allen. Now probably not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen looks like he's going to Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: What are your top five most accurate evaluations when you

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Speaker 1: were scout? What were the five least accurate evaluations? Well,

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Speaker 1: when I worked in the office for two years, I

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Speaker 1: did pro, guys, so in in I only really did

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Speaker 1: college for one year, and it was you know, Dion

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Speaker 1: Jordan's Robert Woods like Kelsey I for you know, it

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Speaker 1: was the whatever thirteen class, Lane Johnson's year. But in pro,

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Speaker 1: you spend so much time doing pro you're really just

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Speaker 1: like updating their grade. Right. So like when people like

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Speaker 1: I didn't new college for that long and I really

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Speaker 1: got to just work on the road one year, I

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Speaker 1: was pretty good at it. I was gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good profession for me. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't like pro as much because you're just I

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Speaker 1: boared me. But it made me a way better when

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Speaker 1: I transitioned to college. I knew the NFL so well,

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Speaker 1: and uh so most of my evaluations, like in my

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Speaker 1: career we're grading practice squad guys were. Honestly, my greatest

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Speaker 1: evaluation of all time was Andrew Sendejo. He played in

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Speaker 1: the UFL, I think that's what it was called, and

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Speaker 1: I remember going, this guy's good. He did not have

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Speaker 1: a rate in our system. Now he was never drafted.

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Speaker 1: He he probably don't have a grade in anyone system,

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Speaker 1: but he was fucking unreal in this little league. Did

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Speaker 1: have like the Sacramento Mountain Lions and you know the

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Speaker 1: Omaha Cornhusk who the league It lasted a year. Remember

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Speaker 1: going into Lewis Riddick's office, I'm like, this dude can play.

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Speaker 1: People were kind of making fun of me. So today

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Speaker 1: I have like a ten year career. I knew it.

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Speaker 1: I knew it. That's I take a lot of pride

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Speaker 1: in andrewson Dale. He doesn't even know it, but if

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Speaker 1: I ever met him, I'd say I saw something in you.

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Speaker 1: You didn't know I did, but I did. From Australia,

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Speaker 1: your insight in the league and your takes not only

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Speaker 1: top stories but also the visibility you provide to multiple

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Speaker 1: multitude of players. I'm a massive Patriot fan and was

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Speaker 1: wondering if you think we need to prioritize speed at

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Speaker 1: the second level of our defense or wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I think the Kobe Dean is a beast,

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Speaker 1: and if we want to go deep events, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a great pick. Pretty sure, he's smaller, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Belichick loves smaller linebackers. I understand we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do to be able

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Speaker 1: to compete at the top of the a f C.

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Speaker 1: So our draft, who should we draft? Uh? Also, if

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Speaker 1: you ever make it over to Cindy, Sydney, I would

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Speaker 1: love to go. Gambling is huge over here. You'd love it.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like my type place. My dad used to

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Speaker 1: go to New Zealand with his dad. I never made

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Speaker 1: to Australia, but I did go to New Zealand once.

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Speaker 1: I love the kiwis. Uh. That's a good question. I

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Speaker 1: mean I would say receiver would be near the top

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Speaker 1: of the priority. I mean, you've lost Gilmore and J. C.

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Speaker 1: Jackson back to back years, so you're gonna need to

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Speaker 1: improve your dbs. I think you could easily take a dB,

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Speaker 1: probably dB, a wide receiver. I mean, what if you

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Speaker 1: know Sauce Gardner, the kid from from Cincinnati, he'd be

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Speaker 1: gone Stingley. Who knows, maybe he falls now your pick.

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Speaker 1: You guys were a playoff team, so I would imagine

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Speaker 1: your picks in the early twenties. You can always take

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver or just take lineman. Like last year

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Speaker 1: in the second round they traded up. They got what's

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Speaker 1: his name? Bays Moore? Is that his name? The d

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Speaker 1: tackle from Alabama. That case is good. Belichick had a

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Speaker 1: good draft last year, partly because I think he's listening

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Speaker 1: to his scouts novel concept. Keep up the great work.

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Speaker 1: I'm a game cock, a lum, and was wondering if

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Speaker 1: you had any thoughts on Shane Biemer and what he

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Speaker 1: is building at South Carolina. Getting Spencer Rattler what has

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Speaker 1: me cautiously optimistic? But we have obviously been led down before,

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Speaker 1: curious to see what someone outside of a program thinks. Well,

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Speaker 1: when he worked in Oklahoma, Uh, the guy that hired

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Speaker 1: me at Friends of State still works at Oklahoma. He

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Speaker 1: worked under Stoops, he worked under Lincoln, and now he's

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Speaker 1: under h Venables loves him. This guy is well liked.

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Speaker 1: Shane Biemer is just a high energy, high level guy.

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Speaker 1: To me, I don't I don't really like Spencer Rattler.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not putting that much stock, but I actually

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Speaker 1: think you've got a good young coach. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: comes from pretty special stock. I mean his dad was,

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Speaker 1: I mean made Virginia Tech into what it was. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very bullish. Now. The problem is George's a powerhouse.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky is really good. Your rival Clemson is always gonna

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Speaker 1: be better than you as long as Dabbo is there.

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Speaker 1: Florida if this coach, which you know, I think is

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Speaker 1: pretty good, could be pretty strong, and Josh Hypel actually

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Speaker 1: is not bad. So years ago when the East was

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Speaker 1: down and you you have some of those moments of

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Speaker 1: Spurri or you know, you had those like three straight

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Speaker 1: years I think of like eleven or twelve wins. It's

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Speaker 1: just gonna get way harder. And then I don't know

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Speaker 1: who your rival is in the other division, but you

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Speaker 1: end up playing some of those teams that obviously you

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Speaker 1: know the West is loaded. It's very difficult. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult. I think successful years in South

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Speaker 1: Carolina you win eight games and in bowl games and

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Speaker 1: have like a big upset a year, right, beat to Florida,

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Speaker 1: bet to Georgia beat up l s U like just

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Speaker 1: one of those type wins a year. He's doing a

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Speaker 1: hell of a job. I'm I'm a fan of the guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't I've never met him personally, but I think

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of his stuff on like social media.

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Speaker 1: It feels like he's just a high level guy. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for keeping it real. I find myself looking forward to

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Speaker 1: your podcast. You mentioned Leah Thomas a couple of pods

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Speaker 1: ago and then said something like the effect of it's

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Speaker 1: probably not the time or place to have an opinion

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Speaker 1: on this, and then you stopped saying more. You chuckled, though,

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Speaker 1: which made me laugh a little too. My question, are

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Speaker 1: you willing to share your thoughts on Leah thomas gerade

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Speaker 1: on the pot or is it too polarizing. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's polarizing at all. I think the majority of

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Speaker 1: humans agree it's not fair for her to swim against girls.

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Speaker 1: That is not a polarizing take. That's every single human

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Speaker 1: I know says, yeah, that's unfair, it's not fair. She's

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Speaker 1: going to win, she's gonna dominate when she swims against

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Speaker 1: the girls. Clearly, we live in a weird world right now,

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Speaker 1: where the n C double A is letting people, yeah

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Speaker 1: holler if you're ever in Vegas. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: just it's unfair, Like, I mean, who's disagreeing with that? Though?

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Speaker 1: Like that's to me, like there's not such a This

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Speaker 1: is where Twitter. Twitter is such a small percentage of people,

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Speaker 1: Like who's really saying like that's fair? Like nobody, no

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Speaker 1: human is saying that now. The media is so they

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Speaker 1: don't have any balls. They're scared. They wouldn't say that

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Speaker 1: because like they're just obsessed with all thinking the same,

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Speaker 1: even though they all probably agree that, like, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not fair. Uh love the pot. Where are you at?

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Speaker 1: On Adan Hutchinson, I watched him against decent too above

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Speaker 1: average alliones and didn't see an elite player. You g

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Speaker 1: A pushed him around a little bit like a geek

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Speaker 1: in high school locker room. Yeah, I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: think he's solid. I would just be very hesitant. I

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Speaker 1: talked about this on Friday Show that of the when

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Speaker 1: you see a guy has a really high floor, there

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Speaker 1: is no guaranteed floor in the league. There just isn't.

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Speaker 1: And he's obviously had a hell of a season. He

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Speaker 1: was really productive. Whenever you watch Michigan play. He was

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Speaker 1: dominant except that Georgia game. I haven't gone and studied

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Speaker 1: the film, but the knock on Emassy didn't look good. Right,

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Speaker 1: But there is no guarantee that you have to take

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Speaker 1: this guy in the top ten really probably the top five.

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Speaker 1: When you take a top five pick and that guy

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Speaker 1: is not a consistent pro bowler, it does not feel great.

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Speaker 1: Do I think this guy is gonna go to Pro Bowls?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, but he's gonna be a really good player. Probably,

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Speaker 1: But like Solomon Thomas and Cleveland Ferrell, now this guy

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Speaker 1: is a better prospect than those guys. But there there's

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Speaker 1: risk in quote unquote high floor, low ceiling guys. But

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Speaker 1: listen to the pod for a few months and love it.

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Speaker 1: Non sports question. I'm headed out to San Francisco next

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Speaker 1: month for a vacation and wondered if you had any

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Speaker 1: restaurant recommendations. I love to get some fresh seafood, but

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Speaker 1: any food recommenizations would be greatly appreciated. I think it

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Speaker 1: might be the best pizza in America. It's called Tony's.

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Speaker 1: It's in North Beach, which is like the Italian area

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. It's where all the Italian food is

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Speaker 1: there and it's elite. I would go to Tony's Pizza

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Speaker 1: and I would eat that's That would be my number

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Speaker 1: one recommendation for the most part. You know, Safra has

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Speaker 1: been shut down for a couple of years. When I

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Speaker 1: lived there, I wasn't really eating at nice restaurants. I

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Speaker 1: honestly haven't been to that many. You know of the

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Speaker 1: super high end restaurants in the city, um, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you better ones are like around where I live,

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Speaker 1: but I'd recommend Tony's Pizza. Appreciate everyone listening, have a

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Speaker 1: good weekend or maybe week coming up, and godspeed audios

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