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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie, and

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Speaker 3: I am here today with the Voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 3: published author The Sword and the Stone and Rob King.

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Speaker 4: How are you, Kinger?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well, my friend.

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I am fine.

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Speaker 3: I am here at Hancock Whitney Stadium in beautiful Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Of course back in Pittsburgh. But I hear the weather

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Speaker 3: is a little warmer in Pittsburgh today than it was

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Speaker 3: well the last couple of weeks, so maybe getting a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a break there. But it's about sixty

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Speaker 3: degrees here in the sun is shining.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm in a great move.

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Speaker 2: King.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's good for you, I think the you know, yeah,

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Speaker 7: we have we have some you know. I figure if

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Speaker 7: you can see any blue sky or even the outline

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Speaker 7: of the sun behind the cloud, we consider that a

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Speaker 7: sunny day.

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Speaker 4: As you know. Here absolutely as a sunny day.

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful sunny day here on the national team

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Speaker 3: on the field here at the at the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 3: where I am at and they're getting ready to kick

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Speaker 3: off their morning session practice day number two here at

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. And Rob, I don't know if you've

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Speaker 3: watched any of the Senior Bowl stuff from yesterday or

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Speaker 3: any of that. I know it's all broadcast on the

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Speaker 3: NFL network now, but this is really, you know, a

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Speaker 3: situation where Steeler fans need to understand that. I went

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Speaker 3: back and looked the Steelers have drafted a player who

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Speaker 3: participate at least one who participated in the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 3: every year since two thousand and seven, and last year

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Speaker 3: their first four first four draft picks. We're all here immobile.

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Speaker 3: So you know, if you want to get an idea

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Speaker 3: of who the Steelers might take in the draft, you

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Speaker 3: got to pay attention to what happens down here at

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Speaker 3: the Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great point.

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Speaker 7: And you know, when you look at the Steelers last

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Speaker 7: couple of drafts, they've been good, they've been productive drafts,

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Speaker 7: and so, uh, you know, we should all be eagerly

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Speaker 7: looking forward to your reports coming out of the Senior

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Speaker 7: Bowl as an indicator of what might be happening for

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Speaker 7: the Studers as they continue to try to, you know,

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Speaker 7: get closer and closer and hopefully over the top as

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Speaker 7: far as winning playoff games and competing with the teams

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Speaker 7: that we're seeing left standing in the NFL. Uh and

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Speaker 7: and have seen left standing after the Steelers were eliminated

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Speaker 7: by the Baltimore Ravens. I'm curious as to how I

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Speaker 7: know it's uh, I know it's uh. They're getting they're practicing,

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Speaker 7: they're getting ready for a game. But what the process

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Speaker 7: is like down there? Because it is part game, but

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Speaker 7: let's be honest, Dale, it's also you know, a big

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Speaker 7: part of the appeal for the players is the opportunity

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Speaker 7: to get in front of other teams. It's it's part

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Speaker 7: of the scouting process more than any other game that

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Speaker 7: they've probably played in their careers. I mean this, you

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Speaker 7: know everyone's going to be there, I'm sure, and have

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Speaker 7: talked about this on past iteration to the dry, but

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Speaker 7: what does a typical day look like?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 7: How different is it from you know, sort of simple

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Speaker 7: game preps. Knowing that Mike Tomlin can run out into

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Speaker 7: other and all these other things as sort of a

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Speaker 7: de facto super coach down there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was, as he usually is, was

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Speaker 3: very active down here yesterday in Day one. And to

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Speaker 3: your point about that, you know, these guys are all

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Speaker 3: you know, for the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: For example, I wrote about the quarterbacks today.

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Speaker 3: Some of these guys haven't taken a snap under center,

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Speaker 3: maybe since high school, you know, and now you're now

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Speaker 3: you're you're doing it with a guy who maybe was

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Speaker 3: he's not real were about the center exchange, you know,

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Speaker 4: The quarterbacks haven't been under center, you know.

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Speaker 3: And now you've got defensive linemen lined up on the

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Speaker 3: so you're trying to get out of there in time

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of a lot to deal with

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Speaker 3: Then you take a guy like Taylor elgers Mott and

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Speaker 3: I wrote about a little bit about him, you know,

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Speaker 3: today or yesterday on the Steelers dot com. He's from

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Speaker 3: Laurier University in Quebec. It's Canadian football player. He he

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Speaker 3: has been. It's a different game. You know, they're the

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Speaker 3: is he is here not only adjusting to all those things,

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot that's in and you know, when

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Speaker 7: you talk about the center quarterbacks exchange, it is what

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Speaker 7: used to be sort of the most rudimentary play in football,

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Speaker 7: Like you have to have that down, and so you

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Speaker 7: work on it in practice, and of course you're in practice,

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Speaker 7: you're doing it all the time. But you know, people

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Speaker 7: have to understand that. You know, first of all, some

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Speaker 5: I mean even in high school.

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Speaker 7: So many high schools are running you know, spread attacks,

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Speaker 7: we take it for granted, right that there's not going

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Speaker 7: to be a fumble there. Well, the center is to

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Speaker 7: your point, he's trying to snap the ball, and at

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Speaker 7: the same time the same sort of motion, his body

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Speaker 7: you know, you're running that stretch play and all of

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Speaker 7: a sudden you got a fast running back and your

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it gets left behind.

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Speaker 7: And of course, you know, as the quarterback, you always

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Speaker 7: think it's the center's fault, and the center probably always

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's not it. No, no, it's it's it's

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Speaker 7: not good. But you know, so, yes, is it a

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Speaker 7: So so yes, that play had been perfected and it

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Speaker 7: done it in high school, and then they've done it

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Speaker 7: in college and all those practices, thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 7: and it's rudimentary, but you know those those years and years.

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Speaker 5: Of practice also helped.

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Speaker 7: So it's it is interesting to see things like that

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Speaker 7: it's still about you know, there's there's certainly gonna be

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Speaker 7: guys that are quicker, little angles that have to be changed,

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Speaker 7: but those are little angles in space, you know, so hey, listen,

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Speaker 7: I better drop back with my right foot a little

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Speaker 7: little bit of ground. Those sort of things. But when

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Speaker 7: you're talking about, you know, being a perimeter player or

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Speaker 7: being a quarterback, you know, you think you guys opened, Well,

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Speaker 7: he might have been opened at your level, but he

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Speaker 7: ain't open at this level.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a different throwball.

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Speaker 7: It gets picked off or you have to figure out

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Speaker 7: different angles to pursuit because these guys are that much faster,

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Speaker 7: So the little angles become bigger.

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Speaker 3: Angles, absolutely, And you know, then you add in the factor.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the quarterbacks haven't worked with the wide receivers. Uh,

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Speaker 3: game stuff. Now, the one on ones were you know better,

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Speaker 3: you know, just because you had a quarterback with a

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Speaker 3: it was all the entire eleven group of eleven on

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Speaker 4: And in the terms of that's like.

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Speaker 3: They they spent a couple of days leading up to

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Speaker 3: the first practice meeting about you know, how we're gonna practice.

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Speaker 4: Here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Uh, this is, you know, we're going to do this

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Speaker 3: drill and then we're going to go into this and

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Speaker 3: then we'll do the you know, nine on seven, then

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Speaker 3: we'll do eleven on you know, but you know, until

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Speaker 3: you understand that, and then you add in the fact

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Speaker 3: Rob that some of the colleges now also you've got

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Speaker 3: the guys standing on the sidelines with the signs and

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Speaker 3: everybody's looking to the sideline to see, Okay, here's the

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Speaker 3: play that we're running. The quarterback doesn't call that right,

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Speaker 3: and so now he's going to learn. I can remember

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Speaker 3: going back, you know, this is now almost twenty years ago,

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Speaker 3: talking with Bruce arians about that when he was a

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Speaker 3: coming out of those offenses don't know how to call

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Speaker 4: They get into the huddle.

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of that's the fundamental part of being

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Speaker 4: You're got to relay the play from the side.

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Speaker 3: You know that they're they're telling you in your in

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Speaker 3: your head or they're showing you on the card. You

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Speaker 3: got to go into the huddle then and relay that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's almost very literally a different language. You know,

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly here in Mobile, Alabama at the

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Speaker 3: thick sandwich. But he's like, oh, this is you know this.

439
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 3: I get to come here and get this thing every year.

440
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, really, he's just walking by me here right now.

441
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 3: Actually the cheeseburger, dude. So yeah, and he he ate

442
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 3: the thing, I swear to God in less than five minutes.

443
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.

444
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: It was an unbelievable feat of just pure food gluttony.

445
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Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like it.

446
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 6: Almost like sitting at the table with Wolf.

447
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like yeah, yeah, I mean just

448
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: it was there and then it just disappeared, and I'm

449
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 3: like wow, And he ate all the tater touts that

450
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: came with it, like they were all gone. I'm like, wow,

451
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 3: that was that was impressive. But yeah, it's a it's

452
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: an interesting town. You know, you get a little bit

453
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: of the Deep South, you get a little bit of

454
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: the New Orleans you know feel to it. You know,

455
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: you're on the water. You know, they have cruise ships

456
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: that come out of here. So it's it's an interesting

457
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: city and oh, by the way, like the entire NFL

458
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: is here this week. Like you go out to anywhere

459
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: you go, there's you know, representatives from this team or

460
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 3: that team, and there's all kinds of agents down here.

461
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: It's you hear a lot of stuff when you keep

462
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 3: your ears open. Let's put it that way.

463
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 6: Okay, kind of like a pre combine.

464
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Speaker 4: It's a pre combine. Yeah, it is kind of a

465
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 4: pre combine. So there's that.

466
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 3: So, labs, we now know who the finalists are for

467
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. And I might add that they were

468
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: two of the three teams that the Steelers played in

469
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 3: an eleven day span. I tweeted that out the other

470
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: day and and there was outrage from Steeler fans, but

471
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Speaker 3: not they not The outrage was more about what it

472
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: just shows you They're not anywhere close to those teams,

473
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, But the point remains that the NFL scheduled

474
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Speaker 3: this where they had to play two of those three

475
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: finalists or two of the finalists, the two teams that

476
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,239
Speaker 3: are still standing in an eleven day span. You, oh,

477
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: by the way, tuck the Ravens into the middle of

478
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: that thing. Again, not using that as an excuse for

479
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 3: what happened. But also, I mean, should you be shocked.

480
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: I think if any team in the league, if the

481
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs had had to do that, did they

482
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Speaker 3: come through that unscathed? I don't think so. It's just

483
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: such a you know, and then you start adding the

484
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: injuries that the Steelers had, you know, at that time,

485
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: into that equation, and it's you know.

486
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: It added up to what it added up to.

487
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: The schedule makers just did the Steelers no favors this

488
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 3: year with particularly in that particular stretch.

489
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Speaker 6: Hard knocks, baby, hard, hard knocks, Yeah, all about it.

490
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 6: That's that's the most important thing. Hard knocks. And I'm serious,

491
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 6: no one will ever convince me that that is not

492
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Speaker 6: the reason behind you know, that post by a series

493
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 6: of games for the Steelers. I mean, and I haven't

494
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 6: compared and looked at the other a FC North teams,

495
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 6: but you know, all of the a FC North games

496
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Speaker 6: just about I think there was maybe one or two

497
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 6: played before. Uh yeah. So but I mean, hey, that's

498
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Speaker 6: what we're all about. We're about hard knocks. So I

499
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 6: you know, we're about hard knocks.

500
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

501
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Speaker 7: I think that, you know, when I look at that

502
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Speaker 7: schedule and I looked at the final result in Baltimore. Uh,

503
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Speaker 7: you know, I went back and looked at at the

504
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 7: Baltimore game. I think when we're in the middle of

505
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 7: that meat grinder, guys, it was you know, it was

506
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 7: it was hard to have a good feeling about the

507
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 7: team because they lost all four games, right including the

508
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 7: game against Cincinnati. And I went back and looked at

509
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 7: that game. I was talking to Dale in the press

510
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 7: box prior to the game, and in Baltimore the playoff game,

511
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 7: And when you look at that Baltimore game, you know,

512
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 7: and you think about all the things that went wrong

513
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 7: for this Steelers. You know, two fumbles that Baltimore falls

514
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 7: on top of in Steelers territory, you know, you recover

515
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 7: either one of those. You've got great field position, Russ

516
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 7: fumbles they recover inside the five yard line, you know,

517
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 7: with a chance to go up fourteen to seven in

518
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 7: that game. Just the way the game was a back

519
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 7: and forth game, even after the pick six that Russell

520
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 7: Wilson threw. You know, this years took the next drive

521
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 7: Marks did into Ravens territory and then there was a

522
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 7: sack and a penalty and that kind of that was

523
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Speaker 7: really kind of what what ended the game for me.

524
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Speaker 7: But it was really kind of an evenly played game.

525
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 7: I mean there was until you know, and then the

526
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 7: score made it look bad. But the thing that got

527
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 7: me a little bit, guys, was it didn't feel like

528
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 7: that was the same team we saw. I think the

529
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 7: Ravens were playing better and for some reason, the Steelers

530
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 7: were playing worse even though they were healthier. Remember they

531
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 7: didn't have George Pickens in that game, they didn't have

532
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Speaker 7: Deshaun Elliott in that game. Dante Jackson left early in

533
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 7: that that first game against the Ravens.

534
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Speaker 5: So that that's kind of what, you know, outside of.

535
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Speaker 7: That last game, I really feel like, and this is

536
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 7: hard to sort of say and hard to feel if

537
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 7: you're a Steelers fan, that the Steelers did close the.

538
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: Gap a little bit.

539
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Speaker 7: I mean they were in you know, when you when

540
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Speaker 7: I think back about that playoff game in Buffalo a

541
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 7: year ago, it just never felt like there was much

542
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 7: chance of winning that game. And you know, you take

543
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 7: this game by game. You know, it pitched to Naji

544
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 7: Harrison Philadelphia that he uncharacteristically fumbles as you're marching in

545
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Speaker 7: to hopefully tie the game in the third quarter. The

546
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Speaker 7: outline I said in Baltimore, even Kansas City, you know,

547
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 7: it's sort of a dubious holding call on Darnell Washington

548
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 7: erases a touchdown that put the Steelers in the lead

549
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 7: prior to that interception in the end zone. So you know,

550
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 7: it was a meat grinder schedule. I still can't really

551
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 7: come to terms with what happened in Baltimore because I

552
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 7: don't it just it seemed non representative to me of

553
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 7: what i'd seen, you know, just a few weeks before

554
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 7: in Baltimore. But I still think that, you know, another

555
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 7: good draft, another year free agency, and you know, let's

556
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 7: keep chipping away.

557
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

558
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm with you, Robin, And you know, some

559
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: people you're making excuses. No, there's a difference between an

560
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: excuse and a reason. There are two different things and

561
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: excuses like well yeah, but but but the reason when

562
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: you're when you're explaining the reason why some of these

563
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: things happened. You know, you didn't get on the fumbles,

564
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: you didn't get you know, yeah, those those are those

565
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: are factors. Those are things that that actually happened. You know,

566
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: it's not an excuse. Well, some intangible thing that that

567
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: you're you're coming up with. Yeah, they weren't, as you know,

568
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: in the grand scheme of things, as talented as some

569
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: of those other teams. Sure we knew that going into

570
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: that that that that those teams had an advantage at

571
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: quarterback that you were going to have to overcome with.

572
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: The rest of the roster. That's just the reality of

573
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: the of the NFL today.

574
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 6: Let me just you know, gently disagree a little bit here.

575
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 6: The Steelers got handled by the Ravens in Baltimore in

576
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 6: the playoff game.

577
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 4: Oh there's no yeah about that.

578
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, yep, that to me is you just you can't

579
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: have that.

580
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: No, I completely have to know.

581
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Speaker 6: You have to know how to play that team. You

582
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 6: play them at least twice a year every year, and

583
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Speaker 6: if you don't bring it physically against the Ravens, that's

584
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 6: what happens. And so that was the disappointment to me.

585
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 6: This is not you know, when leading up to that game,

586
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 6: when a lot of us were talking about the Steelers'

587
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: recent performance against the Ravens eight out of ten or

588
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: whatever it was, and in Baltimore four out of five,

589
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 6: whatever it was. Part of the reason for that is

590
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 6: the Steelers brought it physically. They came you takes when

591
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 6: you play the Ravens. And I've always said this, the reason,

592
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 6: in my opinion, the main reason why teams, especially from

593
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 6: the NFC do not do well against the Ravens is

594
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 6: because they are not prepared for the intensity, for the

595
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 6: physicality of what they're going to face from the opening

596
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 6: kickoff to the final whistle. The Steelers no better than that.

597
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 6: There have been guys.

598
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: That are on who are on the.

599
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 6: Field for that playoff game in Steelers. You ms who

600
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 6: have experienced that at least once or twice and know better.

601
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 6: But they just did not respond to that. They took

602
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 6: more punches than they delivered. And you know, I don't

603
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 6: ever question effort or anything like that because I don't.

604
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: I choose not to, you know, sit.

605
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 6: Up in the press box or on my couch watching

606
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 6: it on TV and say that guy's not trying hard

607
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 6: because or you know, because I just don't believe in that.

608
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 6: There's just no way to know that. And I'm not

609
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 6: gonna try and you know, play god so to speak,

610
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 6: and know it's in somebody's head or heart. But what

611
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 6: I can say is they got handled physically well.

612
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: And I agree so so labs.

613
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 7: I agree with everything you're saying, and I don't want

614
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 7: to be misunderstood here, because frankly, I was mystified by

615
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 7: what happened in Baltimore. I did not expect to see

616
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 7: that based on the fact that and when I talk

617
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 7: about the talent gap, you know, they beat the Ravens

618
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 7: in Pittsburgh and they were you know, I just sort

619
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 7: of outlined what I thought happened in Baltimore in a

620
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 7: game I didn't think they were manhandled. What I can't

621
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 7: figure out is why three weeks later they were. I

622
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 7: do wonder if just sort of mentally the team needed

623
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 7: something good to happen down the stretch and they just

624
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 7: couldn't find it, and whether that was a factor, And

625
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 7: that's why I said, I thought, you know, right up

626
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 7: until that game against Baltimore, I thought, okay, well, listen,

627
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 7: there's a difference between the team that went up to

628
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 7: Buffalo last year where I'm thinking, okay, they got to

629
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 7: win the turnover margin three to nothing. You know, they

630
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 7: probably need, you know, a punt return for a touchdown.

631
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 7: You know, Josh Allen has to slip and fall and

632
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 7: tumble out of bounds when he's running in for a touchdown.

633
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 7: Something something out of the ordinary has to happen, and

634
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 7: I felt like I didn't feel like that going into

635
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 7: the game in Baltimore. Now, you know, feelings are not results,

636
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 7: and the results are are the results.

637
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: And they were manhandled.

638
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 7: That was their worst in the last five games, in

639
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 7: the five game losing streak. That was the worst they

640
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 7: looked in my opinion, And I don't really even think

641
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 7: it was that close. Second half of Kansas City, they

642
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 7: didn't look good either, but from the from the opening,

643
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 7: I just don't know if that was a team that

644
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 7: needed something positive. You know, if they make that first

645
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 7: stop deep in Ravens territory, does it change. I don't know,

646
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 7: because I'm I'm without an explanation for what happened in Baltimore.

647
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what happened.

648
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I just again the physical handling, Yes,

649
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 6: for me, started well with the Ravens offensive line the

650
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 6: Steelers defensive line, and so for me, that has to

651
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 6: be I really believe that the Steelers need to treat

652
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 6: the defensive line now the way they have had been

653
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 6: in the recent very recent past, treating the offensive line

654
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 6: and dale next time you see Matt Williamson and all

655
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Speaker 6: his mock drafts. Tell him that I said, they pick

656
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Speaker 6: a wide receiver on the first round, I'm gonna come

657
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Speaker 6: and kick his butt.

658
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Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you right now, Bob.

659
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Speaker 3: I'm watching Mike Tomlin on the field here during this

660
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Speaker 3: early practice session. The national team is on the field,

661
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Speaker 3: and he is intently watching the defensive line drills. And

662
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Speaker 3: when I say intently, I mean he is almost in

663
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Speaker 3: the drill. So take from that what you will. But

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Speaker 3: he seldom hides what his interest is in these situations.

665
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Speaker 3: And he is all over the defensive lineman down here.

666
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Speaker 3: And it is a super talented group of players here

667
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Speaker 3: of defensive lineman here at the Senior Bowls year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and no offense. Rob, But I was

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Speaker 6: really hoping that Matt was going to be on this

670
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Speaker 6: call because his last mock draft was wide receiver. Running back. Quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Well, so I will tell you that. And I understand

672
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Speaker 7: the notion of quarterback. And listen, if you love a guy,

673
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: you know, if you think you can get a franchise quarterback,

674
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 7: if you're like, oh my goodness, this is manner from heaven.

675
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 7: We have a we have the future franchise quarterback dropping

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Speaker 7: in our lap in the first round of the second round.

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Speaker 7: That's the cabyat you have to take that guy that's

678
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Speaker 7: not gonna happen. That it's just not gonna happen. So

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Speaker 7: I was talking to to to Dale before we you know,

680
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Speaker 7: you got on Bob, and I would have no problem

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Speaker 7: with them.

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Speaker 5: You know, they've got some cap space.

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Speaker 7: You have to handle the quarterback position obviously, but if

684
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Speaker 7: you maybe thought about receiver, MA be a corner for

685
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Speaker 7: some depth in free agency, and you went defensive line,

686
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Speaker 7: defensive line, running back, that's you know, that to me

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Speaker 7: is another winning off season for this dealers because I

688
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Speaker 7: agree with you. I think that you know, and again

689
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 7: you don't want to reach you know, if and if

690
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 7: you feel like you can get a defensive line lineman

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Speaker 7: in the third round and you're running backs there in

692
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Speaker 7: the second round, fine, I'd like to see him hand

693
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Speaker 7: a wide receiver in free agency, and then I would

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Speaker 7: I would be looking to you know, two out of

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Speaker 7: if if you tell me right now, two out of

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Speaker 7: the first three picture defensive line.

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Speaker 6: I am ecstatic, yeah, because I just think that when

698
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Speaker 6: you look at the typical talent distribution in terms of

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Speaker 6: positions in the draft, you know, it was always I

700
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Speaker 6: think it was George Young who called it the planet theory.

701
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Speaker 6: There's only so many people on the planet who are

702
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Speaker 6: three hundred pounds in athletic, so you better get those

703
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 6: guys early because everybody's looking for him. And you know,

704
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Speaker 6: just as it was I think unrealistic for the Steelers

705
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Speaker 6: to be spending you know, third day picks on offensive

706
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Speaker 6: linemen and hoping to be able to rebuild or you know,

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Speaker 6: reconstruct that position. It's just as unrealistic to try and

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Speaker 6: do it with the defensive line. I mean, I get

709
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Speaker 6: it that Brectisa was a seventh round pick, I get it.

710
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Speaker 6: But you know, thinking that you're going to pick defensive

711
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Speaker 6: linemen on the third day and these guys are going

712
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Speaker 6: to be some of the answers to some of the

713
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Speaker 6: issues that I think cropped up late in the regular

714
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 6: season against the run, it's delusional. It's like thinking, and

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Speaker 6: I always say this, it's like me thinking.

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Speaker 2: That I'm going to use the power ball that's.

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Speaker 6: My major funding for my retirement fund. You know, sure

718
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 6: everybody hits the power ball every now, and you know,

719
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Speaker 6: someone wins the.

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Speaker 2: Power ball all the time.

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Speaker 6: The odds that it's going to be me are not

722
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Speaker 6: very good. So maybe you're gonna get a Brett keesl

723
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Speaker 6: on the seventh round. But if you think that that's

724
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Speaker 6: the way you're going to rebuild that part of your team,

725
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 6: not happening.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm scratching off.

727
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Speaker 4: Powerball writing when writing a book includes no.

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Speaker 7: No, that's believe me, that's not going to be part

729
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 7: of the retirement plan either, you know, writing it off

730
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Speaker 7: as a loss on my taxi.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if I can do that.

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Speaker 7: So you know, uh so, Bob, I totally agree with you.

733
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Speaker 7: And you know, you know, we talk a lot. I

734
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Speaker 7: think a lot, and I talk about with Dale and

735
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Speaker 7: some of the other guys, you know, the what one

736
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Speaker 7: player and one position group can do for everybody else.

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Speaker 7: So you know, you know, I to make it easy.

738
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Speaker 7: And I talk about Watt a lot. Okay, So if

739
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 7: you're TJ Watt, you're gonna help the guy next to

740
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Speaker 7: you on the defensive line because they got a double

741
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Speaker 7: team TJ. And if they use a running back or

742
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 7: tight end to chip and well, that helps the corner

743
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Speaker 7: behind you or the or the linebacker who's hustling out

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Speaker 7: to the flat. So one, one player can have that

745
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 7: sort of effect. And you know, as the season war

746
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Speaker 7: on and I was wondering, okay, where where are the Steelers.

747
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Speaker 7: If you have you know, great corners, uh, maybe you

748
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 7: can blitz more and if you uh, you know so,

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to think, okay, uh, you know, what position

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Speaker 7: do you want to attack? Well, I think that what

751
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Speaker 7: we saw at the end of the season laid bare

752
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Speaker 7: what they need to do.

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Speaker 5: They need they need.

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Speaker 7: To not you know, hey, we're gonna stop the pass

755
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Speaker 7: and that'll help us stop the run. No, it has

756
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Speaker 7: to be the other way around. They have to be

757
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Speaker 7: able to stop the run and then hey, listen, those

758
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 7: guys can get to the quarterback too and throw off

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Speaker 7: their timing and rhythm. I just think it, you know,

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Speaker 7: I was wondering which position, uh you know, hey, could

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Speaker 7: you get by an other year on the D line

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Speaker 7: and maybe go corner? Now, you know, looking at what

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia did with their first two picks, I'm firmly in

764
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 7: your camp, Bob. I think it has to be defensive line.

765
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Speaker 7: And I think that's going to help those those linebackers

766
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Speaker 7: running free. That you know that you have speed at

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Speaker 7: the inside linebacker position, you have guys on the edge

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Speaker 7: who can get to the quarterback. You've got a fine

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Speaker 7: set of safeties, you've got a promising young corner still developing,

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Speaker 7: Joey Porter, that stuff. But if you can't stop the run,

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Speaker 7: that stuff doesn't matter. Speed doesn't matter. At the linebacking position,

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Speaker 7: if they're able to run right at you, you know,

773
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Speaker 7: you want to be able to dictate to them. And

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Speaker 7: this yearers, at the end of the season, we're not

775
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 7: doing the dictating. And I think we saw that, you know,

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00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 7: front and center, and that loss in Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Apparently apparently we lost Bob.

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Speaker 5: Bob. Bob had enough. It was ticked.

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Speaker 3: He only wanted to come on today so could yell

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Speaker 3: at Williams. Yeah, yeah, that was that's what it was

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Speaker 3: all about.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, our guest was Bob Labriola and the Steelers

784
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Speaker 3: Digestive Steelers dot Com. Apparently Rob ticked him off, or

785
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Speaker 3: I ticked him off, I don't know, you know, but anyways,

786
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Speaker 3: let's let's get to a break, Rob and we'll be

787
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Speaker 3: back with more.

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Speaker 4: He is Rob King back in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly here at Hancock Whitney Stadium in beautiful Mobile,

790
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Speaker 3: Alabama at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Rob and I'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold r Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 5: And welcome back.

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Speaker 4: I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Uh. I almost called

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Speaker 4: you Matt Williamson there, and I want to do that.

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Speaker 3: He's the Rob King published author Sword and the Stone Dorderstone.

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Speaker 4: The Sword and the Stone is Part two. That's that's

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Speaker 4: already been in the Stone?

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Speaker 5: Is u is King Arthur?

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's already been written.

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Speaker 7: Yeahs A scimitar, that's yes, that's the mighty Python version.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't give you the divine right? Yes, uh. Kiger

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Speaker 4: A good conversation.

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Speaker 3: There with with with Labs about the defensive line stuff,

807
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Speaker 3: and I'm with you, guys. I think you take two

808
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: defensive linemen in this in this draft. I don't care

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Speaker 3: if it's in rounds one and two or two and

810
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Speaker 3: three or one in three, but I want some I

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Speaker 3: want some pedigree guys at that position in this draft.

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Speaker 3: And this draft is loaded with them, and there's a

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Speaker 3: bunch of them down here at the senior bone. As

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Speaker 3: I mentioned in the previous segment, Mike Tom, I'm paying

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Speaker 3: very close attention to that particular group.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think that the caveat has to

817
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 7: always be that, you know, you don't want to reach

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Speaker 7: for a need, you know, and there are I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think that you know, the the Steelers have identified,

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Speaker 7: you know, the schedule identified some niches for this Steelers.

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Speaker 5: But I think they're you know, they're fairly clear.

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Speaker 7: Like I you know, look, I would be shocked if

823
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Speaker 7: they drafted a tight end, for example, in the first round.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's gonna happen. And they're not gonna

825
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Speaker 7: draft an inside linebacker. I don't think they're gonna draft

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Speaker 7: the safety in the first round. I'm not sure they

827
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Speaker 7: would draft an edge guy, considering the edge guys that.

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Speaker 5: They still love in the team.

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Speaker 7: So, you know, if you feel like, you know, wow,

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Speaker 7: we really have something here, you know, again, allow you

831
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Speaker 7: you can allow yourself the ability to be surprised. So

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Speaker 7: if you were drafting and all of a sudden, wow,

833
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Speaker 7: we didn't expect this guy. Like I said last segment,

834
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Speaker 7: here here's a franchise quarterback where hey, this next guy,

835
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Speaker 7: he's the next Lawrence Taylor or the next Dion Sanders

836
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Speaker 7: or the next Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 5: Well, then you know.

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Speaker 7: Maybe you change plans a little bit because that guy

839
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Speaker 7: is gonna impact your you know, what you can do

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00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 7: for the next five or six years. I think the

841
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 7: Steelers do a really good job in free agency and

842
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 7: always have of at least, you know, signing plausible guys. Okay,

843
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 7: this guy can help a little bit. We're gonna sign him,

844
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Speaker 7: but we'd like to be able to draft somebody that's

845
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Speaker 7: gonna push him down on the depth chart. But if

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Speaker 7: we can't, we can't find that guy where the draft

847
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Speaker 7: dictates that we go in another direction.

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Speaker 4: We've got a starter.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you've got somebody that we can that we can

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Speaker 7: fill the gap in, and then let's go get somebody

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00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 7: in another position. I think one of the reasons, you know,

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00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 7: people and look, I understand fans frustration, and the Steelers

853
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 7: are frustrated too. You know, I did the interview with

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Speaker 7: with Art Rooney a couple of days ago. He's obviously frustrated.

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00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 7: The franchise wants to win championships, but it's not If

856
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 7: you just take a step back and think about what

857
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 7: the Steelers have done, it is a very very difficult

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00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 7: thing to do. With the Bills had what how many

859
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 7: losing seasons in a row, you know, an astronomical number.

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Speaker 7: And and you know, I saw something recently, Oh, the

861
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 7: Steelers should have drafted this guy and this guy and

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Speaker 7: this guy instead of Chase Claypool. Well, how many teams

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00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 7: would would like to have a do over and have

864
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 7: drafted Cam Hayward where he you know, instead of where

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Speaker 7: he went with j Watt or Alonzo or Alonzo, Alex Heismith.

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Speaker 7: You know, all kinds of players you can say that about.

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Speaker 7: And it's easy to cherry pick that when you're when

868
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Speaker 7: you're coming off a season that that's not a success

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Speaker 7: by this Steelers standard.

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Speaker 5: It's not.

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Speaker 7: That wasn't what they were trying to do. It wasn't

872
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Speaker 7: what they set out to do. But uh, I think

873
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Speaker 7: that because you have that flexibility you are, it allows

874
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 7: you to draft players, and when you're drafting late, it

875
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 7: allows you to draft you know, or if you're shrewd

876
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 7: enough to do this, and this Yeeler has always have

877
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 7: been to take players that are maybe non traditional, you know,

878
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 7: ways to build the team. Right, So we need to

879
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 7: shut down corner, and we need a number one receiver,

880
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 7: and we needed an offensive tackle.

881
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Speaker 5: Well, if you're drafting. You know, twenty seventh in the draft.

882
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Speaker 7: You ain't getting that left tackle, You're not getting that cornerback,

883
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 7: You're not getting that receiver. You know, you're not getting

884
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase unless you're drafting in the top ten. Guess what,

885
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 7: the studer's never drafted in the top ten. So to

886
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 7: be able to do that and find value at sort

887
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 7: of non traditional positions that have again that that trickle

888
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 7: down effect to other positions. Nobody's drafting safeties as high

889
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 7: as steers when they drafted Troy Polamalo, So you know

890
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 7: there's a Again, the students aren't where they want to be.

891
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 7: But all this is a way of saying I think

892
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 7: that they'll put themselves in a position where they can say, look,

893
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 7: we we would prefer defensive line, but we're going to

894
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 7: keep ourselves open to the best player at maybe four

895
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 7: different positions instead of saying we have to get that

896
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 7: at one position.

897
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Speaker 5: But I do think they have to address defensive line.

898
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you just need to impact players, right,

899
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Speaker 3: that's exact point. I mean, if you get the best

900
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: guy and you draft, you draft a Hall of Fame guy,

901
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Speaker 3: I don't care what position play.

902
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Speaker 5: I totally agree totally.

903
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Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, and that's been their philosophy and and

904
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Speaker 7: I think it's one of the reasons. You know, it's

905
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 7: there are many other reasons. And again, fans want to

906
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 7: hear super Bowl. They don't want to hear you know,

907
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 7: what is it eight straight years now without winning a

908
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 7: playoff game, but you know, getting to the playoffs numerous times,

909
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 7: it's a difficult thing to do.

910
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 5: So take a step.

911
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 7: Back, forget about being a Steelers fan and look at

912
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 7: a team that's been able to to you know, not

913
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 7: have that plummet down to the bottom. And again you

914
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 7: can argue about that, Hey, the plummet down to the

915
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 7: bottom is what we need to get that franchise quarter.

916
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Speaker 5: That's not what I'm talking about.

917
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Speaker 4: It is very difficult and it's not going to guarantee

918
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Speaker 4: with that.

919
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's pretty much unprecedented what the Steelers have

920
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 7: done to be able to maintain this. And again, you know,

921
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Speaker 7: for fans out there rolling their eyes and saying that's

922
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Speaker 7: not what we want, I understand that that's not what

923
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 7: they want either, But it's still if you just look

924
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 7: at it from if you decide, hey, I'm a general

925
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 7: manager now instead of a Steelers fan.

926
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Speaker 5: What they've been able to accomplish, is.

927
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Speaker 2: It?

928
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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't think of any other team that's

929
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Speaker 7: been able to do anything like it. You have to

930
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 7: go back to the Cowboys, what you know, forty years

931
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Speaker 7: ago for another team that was able to do what

932
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Speaker 7: they've done.

933
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Speaker 5: Is that what they want?

934
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Speaker 6: No?

935
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Speaker 7: Is it still difficult to do well? Like I said,

936
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Speaker 7: you have to go back forty years for another team

937
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Speaker 7: that's done that.

938
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So there you go.

939
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Speaker 3: Let's get to a break, Rob, that's going to do

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Speaker 3: it for our number one of the drive here on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network, Rob and I'll be back with

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Speaker 3: our number two right after this