WEBVTT - Replay* Hip-Hop and Humanitarianism

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, family, it's your girl to Mika D.

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory is your boy, my son general and we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Your host of street Politicians, the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the streets and politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Means my son, lennond I. Because of our scheduling today,

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<v Speaker 1>we have our guests coming on a little earlier than

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<v Speaker 1>we thought, so we're gonna have to cut some things.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's okay with me because I have one thing

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<v Speaker 1>in my thought of the day that I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about today on this year show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, are you trying to get straight to the nitty

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<v Speaker 2>gritty going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make some people upset? I believe in holistic wellness. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid growing up, my parents rarely gave us

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<v Speaker 1>medication because they believe wholeheartedly in holistic wellness. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>when we travel to Africa, we learn that in the

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<v Speaker 1>garden they grow different types of medicines that are currently

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<v Speaker 1>being used for things that we use in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>actual medicine, not just holistically.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, well, the ingredients pretty much the ingredients medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>So anesthesia is growing in the gardens of Africa, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>in Ghana. And you know that if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>get a leg arm amputated, you two full whatever baby

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<v Speaker 1>have a not a baby. But certainly if you have

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<v Speaker 1>termination of pregnancy, if you have any type of search

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<v Speaker 1>be that requires you to go under, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>use anesthesia in order to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And stesion can be very dangerous too, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>when we were in in the botanical gardens in Ghana,

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<v Speaker 1>the gentleman said, you can't touch it, play with it

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<v Speaker 1>tasted nothing right until and I asked the dumb question, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you just have it out here? What if

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<v Speaker 1>someone puts it in their mouth? And he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why would anybody be eating trees? And I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>See again, those are negative or stereotypes that get into

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<v Speaker 1>your head about Africans. And it came out of me

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<v Speaker 1>right there in the park in the garden. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get something serious surgery done, you need

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<v Speaker 1>your anesthesia so that you can not die from pain.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are people in our society that need

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<v Speaker 1>to take their medicine, or if they don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they need a medicine, they need to get it. And

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<v Speaker 1>if there is a holistic way to approach their conditions,

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<v Speaker 1>then they need to go heavy into that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes holistically we might not have the right formulas

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But you need your medicine. People need their

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<v Speaker 1>insulin right once they have diabetes that gets to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain level, they have to be able to take their insulin. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you could clean your body. My mother definitely with her diabetes.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and my father got on an extreme workout schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>seven miles a day, walking in the morning. They ate better,

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<v Speaker 1>They did all the things you could think of, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to change your trajectory of her diabetic

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<v Speaker 1>situation very much so. But she still needed her medication

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<v Speaker 1>to help with some of the other challenges. She was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing things on her hand, you know, she was feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like when she was cooking, it was worms and different

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<v Speaker 1>things because she was having hallucinations because of the diabetes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm saying today that there are people out here

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<v Speaker 1>that need to take their medicine. And I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about will Wile Willie who's running up and down the street,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, we often will say, okay, people need

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<v Speaker 1>to take their medicine, and we assume were associated with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's just you know, out of control. They look

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<v Speaker 1>like they tripping, and we say they need to take medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who are high functioning, depressed, they have anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>they are dealing with mental health issues. They're high functioning,

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<v Speaker 1>they look wonderful, they look perfect, got it going on,

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<v Speaker 1>dressed nice and all of that, but they nasty, nasty attitudes, miserable, negative,

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<v Speaker 1>damn there, ready to die by suicide, eating disorders. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of signs that people are dealing with mental

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<v Speaker 1>health challenges that are not getting addressed. People do not

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<v Speaker 1>have the right formula, and as a result, we are

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with a lot of crazy things. And I of

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<v Speaker 1>course can't tell the story of right now or at

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<v Speaker 1>all of what it is that I experience that made

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<v Speaker 1>me feel this way, but it really is on me

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to start encouraging people to seek professional

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<v Speaker 1>help for a variety of issues that you may be

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with and get the type of help necessary now.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, I had a doctor that wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>put me on riddily when I was really depressed, and

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<v Speaker 1>I chose not to do that. But we found something else,

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<v Speaker 1>and I take that medicine and it is very helpful

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<v Speaker 1>to me to keep me balanced so that my anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>does not take over to where I'm aggravating you, aggravating everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>lend everybody around. I got an attitude. I'm snappy, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not feeling good. I can't rest. People need to take

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<v Speaker 1>their medicine.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I agree, I agree, you know, I also

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<v Speaker 3>agree that a lot of shit is mind state.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. There are a lot of different individuals. There are

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<v Speaker 2>some individuals.

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<v Speaker 3>That they required that they're not going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to fix it theirselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, They're not going to be ald a dollar back. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some people that need to go to or rehab. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some people that don't need to go to rehab.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people say I'm gonna kick this ship by myself

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<v Speaker 3>and then completely stop doing it. Some people are sick

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<v Speaker 3>that you they've been diagnosed with sickness and they've been

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<v Speaker 3>able to holistically change their their trajectory. Other people can't

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<v Speaker 3>do it. So I think it's it's individual based, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have to know you. I think you

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<v Speaker 3>you you have to be able to make proper assessments

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<v Speaker 3>of yourself like and then and then if you, if

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<v Speaker 3>you have the right doctor, then they'll be able to

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<v Speaker 3>make that assessment. Right, They'll be able to make an

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<v Speaker 3>assessment and say, wow, you've been doing what I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you don't need this medication.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe they be pharmaceutical companies are not inclined.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell you nothing. Now I'm not telling doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>Work for the pharmaceutical companies.

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<v Speaker 3>Depends on the doctor that you have, right if you

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<v Speaker 3>if you have somebody that you you believe in that's

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<v Speaker 3>properly invested in you. I've I've had doctors that have said,

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<v Speaker 3>don't take that medication. You know, doctors that have said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they said, give the kids, don't give them that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we not prescribe. I mean you none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let that baby do this and take the baby

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<v Speaker 3>home and give them this and make sure they eat

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<v Speaker 3>this way. So there are doctors who are personally invested

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<v Speaker 3>in your safety over then just selling medication.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you know, like you said, there are people

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<v Speaker 2>who need it.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people who are not going to be at

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<v Speaker 3>a function with all medication because it's the way that

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<v Speaker 3>they're wired. I'm myself, I'm a person that's very rarely

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<v Speaker 3>had medication, Like with the exception of me having a toothache,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the toothache was probably the only thing that I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever said to myself, I got to take some painkillers

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<v Speaker 3>for because the shit was dramatically or allergies, with the

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<v Speaker 3>exception of me taking xytext because the shit is just

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<v Speaker 3>my eyes is watering to the point and there's no way,

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<v Speaker 3>no shit I could do the issue to the point.

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<v Speaker 3>With the exception of those two things, there's very rarely

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<v Speaker 3>a time that medication was.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that I was into.

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe, and that's okay. I'm not suggesting that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>needs medication, and I'm not suggesting that they are not

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<v Speaker 1>again holistic ways to deal with your issues, because there

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<v Speaker 1>certainly can be, because I you know, one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure is that when dealing with my son

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<v Speaker 1>typer activity when he was young, the main thing the

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<v Speaker 1>doctors kept saying to me is, if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to put him on medication, you have to stop the

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<v Speaker 1>sugar in take. You can't let him have a bowl

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<v Speaker 1>of cereal at home or a French toast with syrup

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<v Speaker 1>and then send him to school, because when he gets

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<v Speaker 1>to school, he's gonna be high and then low, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's all types of agitation that goes on in between it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta do vegetables. You got to start out

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<v Speaker 1>with an egg sausage, you know, cup of milk, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is that helps them to feel better and not

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, feel full, but not be so rouled up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand that. I'm just saying that there are

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<v Speaker 1>some people who have not even because you made a

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<v Speaker 1>powerful point, made an assessment of what's wrong with them.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even understand the issue, but they just go

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<v Speaker 1>out in the world making other people's lives miserable. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just think, you know, there's just got to be

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<v Speaker 1>it's just got to be a better way. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just suggesting that people find out what you mean. Right

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<v Speaker 1>if you and your family members saying, wow, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>so mean, or you're in the workplace and you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like people don't really want to deal with you for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, or you find yourself feeling like you're always alone,

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<v Speaker 1>like in your you know, you're always like at odds

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<v Speaker 1>with the people around you who you should have positive

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, relationships with, or you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself constantly hearing from people that you offended them,

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<v Speaker 1>or you upset them or whatever. You try to find

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<v Speaker 1>out is there something going on with Maybe I'm dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with depression and therefore it makes me negative. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>think negatively all the time. That's actually an issue. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say it's a mental health crisis, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's an issue. You automatically come from a negative place

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<v Speaker 1>when you respond. That's not healthy, right, And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't even know because we've never been taught

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<v Speaker 1>about the signs of mental health challenges. We've never been

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<v Speaker 1>taught about anxiety. Like white folks know that is a thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they get medicated for anxiety, they get therapy for anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>Black folks have been dealing with anxiety for eons and

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<v Speaker 1>we've never been taught that. We never knew what it

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<v Speaker 1>meant to have hypertension issues as a child. We never knew.

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<v Speaker 1>And we really do need to try to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the core of some of the issues we have. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you need medication, take it. And if your medication

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<v Speaker 1>makes you feel funny, because some people when they take

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<v Speaker 1>medicine it makes them feel tired or not themselves, they

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<v Speaker 1>can change it. But you have to be committed to

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<v Speaker 1>trying different things and figuring out what is the right

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<v Speaker 1>formula for me. You can't take one medicine and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm not gonna do that anymore. And you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do your research, but you got to be

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<v Speaker 1>committed to your well being and your mental wealth for real.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Well on that note. Our guest is already here, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring them in and introduce them. Okay, family, So

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of our friends, you know, you hear us all

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<v Speaker 1>the time with our inside outside joke that so many

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<v Speaker 1>of our friends are doing powerful things across this nation,

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<v Speaker 1>and we bring them on as our guests.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our show, So we do it how we want,

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<v Speaker 1>and we invite our friends to come and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the work they're doing. And you know, we have an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible change maker who's joining us today who is a

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<v Speaker 1>friend to us personally as well as a friend to

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<v Speaker 1>the community in New Jersey abroad, the entire New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course in Newark. And that's Counselman Do Pray Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>who is better known to most of us as Do

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<v Speaker 1>It All. So we're gonna get into some special things

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<v Speaker 1>about what this gentleman has been able to do going

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<v Speaker 1>from being a platinum selling artist to the first the

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<v Speaker 1>first person to go from being an artist at that

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<v Speaker 1>level to being elected to a political office in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Newark, New Jersey, and so, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's making waves across the country, certainly across the state

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<v Speaker 1>of New Jersey, but specifically focusing on his activism which

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<v Speaker 1>has turned into his political career in the city of Newark,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. Thank you so much, Counselman for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you Tamika, Thank you Mice for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate all the work that you guys have

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<v Speaker 3>been doing over the years.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's very special as needed. So I salute

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<v Speaker 5>you guys as well and say thank you. And before

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<v Speaker 5>we even begin, man, I just want to say, we

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<v Speaker 5>just got some bad news here in Newark, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to say rest in peace to our

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<v Speaker 5>Lieutenant governor. You know, Oliver passed away today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you both of you probably met, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think she you know.

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<v Speaker 5>She's all about that woman empowerment and having our black

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<v Speaker 5>sisters do their things. So I know she was a

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<v Speaker 5>big fan of yours to meekause that's why I just

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to say rest in peace today to her and

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<v Speaker 5>her family and condolences to her family.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go out to her and who hosted in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City. York Man, it's crazy New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, So let's get all into it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that folks are going to want to know

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the specific work you're doing there in Newark,

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<v Speaker 1>But I really want to hear first of all as

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<v Speaker 1>do it or I want to hear from Do It All.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about that transition, and it was their transitional. It

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<v Speaker 1>is just another stage and level in your life. And

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<v Speaker 1>you still feel extremely connected to the culture, to the music,

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<v Speaker 1>which I believe that you do. But what it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like to be the first to go from being a

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<v Speaker 1>platinum selling artist to now being an elected official. What

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<v Speaker 1>are the great things about it? And what are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the areas that you feel are a little difficult

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<v Speaker 1>and challenging.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, first of all, I'm never going to stop

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<v Speaker 5>being hip hop ever, you know, I tell people that

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<v Speaker 5>I am with hip hop looks like growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I get to govern in the same blocks

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<v Speaker 4>that I grew up on. I mean, born and raised

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<v Speaker 4>in these areas.

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<v Speaker 5>I get to governose streets where I jumped gates and

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<v Speaker 5>ran from police and was involved in mischief, and also

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<v Speaker 5>those same blocks where I learned how to galvanize people

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, pass out community events and get involved

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<v Speaker 5>in community events. And it's the same area that myself

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<v Speaker 5>and Red Men set on.

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<v Speaker 3>My porch and we talked about when we were ten

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<v Speaker 3>years old. We talked about the changes we were going

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<v Speaker 3>to bring to our community.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why manifestation and words are powerful because we talked

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<v Speaker 5>about that. And it's only really powerful to me just

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<v Speaker 5>because in hindsight of actually living it and doing it now.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's just an amazing thing that I get to.

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<v Speaker 2>Allow of.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've done some things that made my mother

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<v Speaker 5>have a you know, disgusting her face when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was able to see that, I guess the

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<v Speaker 5>the you know, lack of better word, see that frown

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<v Speaker 5>turn upside down, you know. And and through my work

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<v Speaker 5>in the community, through my work as a hip hop artist.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to give a lot of props to my

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<v Speaker 5>first manager, Hot Feast for Reid, who managed Laws of

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<v Speaker 5>the Underground Muslim brother. You know, when you think about

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<v Speaker 5>Laws of the Underground, we didn't really curse too much

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<v Speaker 5>in our records. We never really called women the B word,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, which was good when I started the

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<v Speaker 5>campaign because they didn't have anything negative to reflect on

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<v Speaker 5>from my hip hop career.

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<v Speaker 4>And he really he really kept us on point.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, here he has three three black males, three

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<v Speaker 5>black men who come from single mother homes, who didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have fathers in the house. He became our dad on

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<v Speaker 5>the road. And then you know, we got money early.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, especially when you get money, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>come with instructions, especially when you never had any money.

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<v Speaker 5>So he was that guy that kind of kept us grounded.

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<v Speaker 5>And he would say stuff like this. You know, if

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<v Speaker 5>I said something with a B word in a song,

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<v Speaker 5>he would say, oh, that's dope. Who are you talking

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<v Speaker 5>about your mother? Your grandmother? And I would get defensive,

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<v Speaker 5>like you me and my grandmother. He said, well, see

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<v Speaker 5>just the way that you just swollo up when I

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<v Speaker 5>when I asked, was that about your mother? People are

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<v Speaker 5>gonna if you disrespect women, that's how they're gonna feel

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<v Speaker 5>when they hear that word.

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<v Speaker 4>Or so he challenged us.

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<v Speaker 5>But he never told us to change anything, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he just challenged us to be better, to think differently,

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<v Speaker 5>to change the mindset.

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<v Speaker 3>And one time, you know, in this documented I've been

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<v Speaker 3>wearing Nork on my power and clothes for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>since I was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm fifty two now, you know, so it was just like, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So one day he asked me in the studio, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>what have you done for Nork Lady.

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<v Speaker 4>I got defensive again.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, oh, I wear NOWK on my hast, I

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<v Speaker 6>got it on my clothes. I always represent on every

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<v Speaker 6>television show. He was like, no, I didn't ask you

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<v Speaker 6>about representing. I asked you, what have you done for

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<v Speaker 6>the city of North Lady. And I really didn't have

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<v Speaker 6>an answer, you know. And it hit me like, wow,

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<v Speaker 6>here it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm bragging about my city and I'm pulling and taking

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<v Speaker 5>away from my city, but I'm not pouring it back

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<v Speaker 5>into my city, you know. And I started to take

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<v Speaker 5>my hip hop money, you know, and try everything right, everything.

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<v Speaker 4>From community you know, the book bag drive, the turkey.

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<v Speaker 5>Giveaways, all of the low hanging fruit stuff, which is important,

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<v Speaker 5>but in the community world, it's really the low hanging fruit.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just started to do that, and by doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>it started putting me at the doorsteps of the residents.

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<v Speaker 4>And my friends and my family.

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<v Speaker 5>Again and they started to see that I was serious,

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<v Speaker 5>and they asked me to be the voice. Just asked

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<v Speaker 5>me to be the voice through hip hop, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>talk for them and use hip hop to get the

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<v Speaker 5>message across in the you know, in the community.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what we did, just just through hip hop. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>So the neighborhood that I'm from, you know, Rod Diggers.

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<v Speaker 3>From there, Queen Latiz was from there, Redman's from there,

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<v Speaker 3>the artifacts, it's just so many people. So, like I say,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, this is what hip hop looks like

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<v Speaker 3>growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just a natural transition. And on the other.

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<v Speaker 5>Hand, you know, people love you until they don't. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody wants you to win, and you guys know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>People when you're doing great things, you assume that, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing great things.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody's going to be happy. And then when you get

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<v Speaker 5>into it and the other one, then you start to

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<v Speaker 5>understand and respectfully, how Malcolm X was killed, Howard Martin

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<v Speaker 5>was killed, because you would think, like, wow, why would

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<v Speaker 5>somebody want to hurt somebody that's doing something good? You know,

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, you have your opposers, and people with

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<v Speaker 5>your opposition and people with different you know, mindsets and

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<v Speaker 5>different views and ideas that just don't match up with

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<v Speaker 5>your So I think, you know, for me, going from

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<v Speaker 5>hip hop to community.

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<v Speaker 4>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>That was that's that's easy in the sense I did

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<v Speaker 5>realize that community has a ceiling to it. When you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing community things and when it comes to fostering change

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<v Speaker 5>and then governance, I had to find my footing, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>To be honest, it's been a little over a year.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to find my footing and I'm still learning,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm still learning. But the politics is the

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<v Speaker 5>part that is I'm not really happy with it. And

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<v Speaker 5>I know my team always tell me stop saying that

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<v Speaker 5>you don't like politics in politics now, which is true.

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<v Speaker 5>But I still don't like the movement of it at times,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because I don't I don't come from the politics,

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<v Speaker 5>but the politics is in all of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A it's not an easy task, but it's a worthy task.

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<v Speaker 4>It's worth it, you know, I tell people all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, my partners, my DJ, he lives in a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful mansion in Miami. My other rap partner, he has

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful home in northern California, I live in one

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<v Speaker 3>of my buildings on right in the hood, right in

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<v Speaker 3>Central Avenue in Newark, New Jersey, and I'm right in

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<v Speaker 3>the mix. How is that? How does that like? How

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<v Speaker 3>does that feel like? Being amongst the people?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like they receive you better? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like like, how do you feel living amongst the people?

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. You know, I don't have to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said it's your own building, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm in partnership with you know. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't even tell everybody some of the things that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>in partnership with the city because.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a lot of haters.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, yes, yes, you know it's our properties,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. So we're working, man, it's

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<v Speaker 5>us being part of our own community. And to answer

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<v Speaker 5>your question might sound like I love it because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>right there with the people. And it can be difficult

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<v Speaker 5>at times because this you're so accessible and you have

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<v Speaker 5>to be careful, you know, because you can't think that

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<v Speaker 5>everything is good, because history has showed that your own

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<v Speaker 5>people would be the ones that to get you up

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<v Speaker 5>out of there. And I mean, like I said, it

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<v Speaker 5>goes from all of our people that we love, our advocates,

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<v Speaker 5>the people who fought for us, down to Nipsey Hustle.

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<v Speaker 5>You know who is writing his own neighborhood and you

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<v Speaker 5>would think, oh, you're safe in your own neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm always aware and the way that I interact

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<v Speaker 3>with them is firm, it's fair, and they know me,

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<v Speaker 3>but don't. I don't take anything for granted, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because anything is possible.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have twenty security guards rolling with me. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't have one security guard role.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta a couple of.

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<v Speaker 5>My dudes who when we go to certain things that

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that I'm good. The neighborhood makes sure that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good, But I make sure that I'm not in

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<v Speaker 5>those places unless I have to be in those places

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<v Speaker 5>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what do you think it's been your biggest challenge,

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest challenge making that trend?

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<v Speaker 2>What is your biggest challenge you feel, and then what

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<v Speaker 2>is the thing that you that you enjoy most.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>My big My biggest challenge is navigating through the politics

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<v Speaker 3>my sign and ta Miika Mallory has a different opinion

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<v Speaker 3>than me on one thing that doesn't mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like them or like they're there, what they're doing. We

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<v Speaker 3>just disagree on maybe one thing. But if that thing

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<v Speaker 3>is goes against the team.

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<v Speaker 5>Of whatever team I'm associated with, and I take a

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<v Speaker 5>picture with you guys, it's like, well, why do you

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<v Speaker 5>want to picture with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Game? My son?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I don't I don't like that, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, Like that's a real thing. That's a real thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're saying.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a real thing, you know, And it's just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of learning how to maneuver through the politics.

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<v Speaker 4>Of it all.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's that's my biggest task, you know, when people

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<v Speaker 5>are I never had so many.

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<v Speaker 3>People scream at me or you know, I've had people

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<v Speaker 3>not like a record. We still give each other a pound,

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<v Speaker 3>We keep it moving. They might still buy the record

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<v Speaker 3>or still come to the show. I have people say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't really feel the record, but when I saw

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<v Speaker 4>you on stage.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, it's not that way. In politics, they just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was in office for a mom and they were

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<v Speaker 5>just hating me, you know what I mean, like some people.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you got to realize that those are five people,

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<v Speaker 3>or those are people who don't even vote or those

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<v Speaker 3>are people who don't even do anything themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>So you got to learn how to quiet out the noise.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had to learn, you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 3>be in council meetings responding everything, well it's that, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they you know, I had to learn that I'm

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 3>just fueling them to continue their instead of just not

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, just kind of blocking out the white noise.

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 4>And keeping the receipts for the work that I do

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 4>and showing up and.

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Being present, you know, because you can say you don't

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<v Speaker 3>like something, but you can't tell me that it's not

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<v Speaker 3>my truth.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't tell me that I'm not president. You can't

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<v Speaker 5>tell me that I'm not putting in the work, whether

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 5>it we you know, produces a great result, a minimum result,

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.239
<v Speaker 5>a small result. You can't tell me that I'm not

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 5>doing things to push it forward. And as long as

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 5>I keep the receipts, you know, I'm cool. And the

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 5>thing that I do like mice is that to see

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<v Speaker 5>the smile, to see the difference that I make when

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 5>I do the work. And I'm talking about from the

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 5>smallest thing to autism signs to getting the bus stop

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<v Speaker 5>moved for Miss Williams. Because she's elderly and she has

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<v Speaker 5>to walk in from three blocks, but getting it moved

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 5>to the middle of her block just makes it comfort

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 5>for her to put stop signs on a block where

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<v Speaker 5>a lady in the motorized wheelchairs is moving along, to

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<v Speaker 5>actually creating orders that help our residents fight against greedy

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 5>landlords and.

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:12.479
<v Speaker 4>Things of that nature.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 5>So it's so many different things that on the municipal

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<v Speaker 5>level that I love. I really think that the local

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 5>politics actually trickle up, you know, because I think that

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 5>the things that we do here makes the state react.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 4>The things that we do here makes the county react.

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 5>The things that we do here ultimately makes the federal

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<v Speaker 5>government react.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's one hundred one is well, you can

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>answer that second. The first question is how does having

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<v Speaker 1>a mayor who supports your vision. I'm sure maybe not

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>all the time, but he ultimately has an empowerment agenda

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and he comes from activism himself. How does that help

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you or how does that make you feel when you're

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<v Speaker 1>out trying to do your work that you're not in

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>opposition to the leader of your city, because there are

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>many council members who are fighting to get things done

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>to change as you said, the city ordinances, the bus stop,

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>all the things you talked about, which seems perfectly common sense, right, Like,

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just common sense these things should happen. And then

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you're up against a mayor who does not have the

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>city's best interests at heart from your perspective. So tell

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<v Speaker 1>me one about that, and then I'll ask my second question.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say man salute, double salute to the

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 3>honorable Mayor j Barako. I was out with Raz, fighting

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 3>with him when we were just young lords of the underground.

0:27:58.680 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 3>He would call on me to have social media like

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 3>that back then, so he would call on me, he

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 3>would call on red Man, he would call on us

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 3>to galvanize the people.

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<v Speaker 5>Yo, I'm shutting down the street. He was just a

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 5>young activist. I'm shutting down this street. We're gonna be

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 5>talking about this. I'm making a list of demands. What

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 5>are some of your demands in your community? Because we're

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 5>giving this to the administration, you know.

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 3>So to see him go from that a list of

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 3>demands to actually putting the people in place and feeling

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 3>check doing check check marks, checking off some of those

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 3>things that were on that those demands is amazing to

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 3>me to have an ally and not an op as

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>they say out here, is beautiful. It's a lot of

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 3>reasons why I ran, but I knew that I can

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 3>add value to the administration of who team Morokka is.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 4>You know who they are, and he knows that.

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Even when I lost in twenty eighteen, that wasn't before

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 5>a meeting with him in and he was like, dude,

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm you know, politically, my list is already filled up,

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 5>My team is already filled. But you will make a

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 5>great council councilman in this city and I will back you.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, he's always been supportive when he was an activist,

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 5>He's been supportive when he was a mayor. He was

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 5>supportive of my nonprofit organization, and when he asked me

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 5>to be on his team ultimately he was He's supportive.

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 5>I just I literally just came out of a meeting

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 5>with him and him being supportive, me talking to some

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 5>personnel here in the city hall about things that we

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 5>need in our community and me having more tension with

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 5>them or going and not bad tension, just about the

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 5>process of getting those things done.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 4>And this guy is fighting for me, this mayor, he's

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 4>fighting for me. Like, no, we need to get this

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 4>to happen.

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 3>And he's one that stood alongside me and fought for

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 3>a rapper to become an elected official.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Like he's forward thinking and you're right to me.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 3>I might not agree with everything with you, but we

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>have conversations about it too. You know. I'll give you

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 3>an instance, because I think it was blown out of proportion.

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 3>There's a George Floyd. There's a George Floyd statue on

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 3>the steps of our city hall. I am for the

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 3>George Floyd movement one thousand per cent, right, and I

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 3>stand with it and fight with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I just had a different ideology about where the statue

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<v Speaker 5>should be because of the impact. So I said, maybe

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 5>we should have and maybe I should have did it

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 5>a little more privately, you know, but like I'm learning,

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 5>But I said, maybe we should put it on our

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 5>new police academy, so when all of those new police

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 5>officers come in there, they see that as a reminder

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 5>of what not to do and what to be a

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 5>part of.

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<v Speaker 3>And he came back and said, I respect that, dude,

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>but I put it on the steps of our of

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 3>our city for a reminder of.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 4>The people who has the poor in.

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>This city and and and I was just like, wow, okay,

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I knew what he was talking about, you know, and

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I was and I respected what he what he said.

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 5>I didn't agree initially aware the placement, but in reality

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 5>we both agreed when it comes to George Floyd, you

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, things like that.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Man and crazy because I was I was literally in

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 3>the off in city city Hall having a meeting with

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Mitty when you when that happened here.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Sending in him text.

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh my god, what happened with do And

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, He's like, oh man, they don't want he,

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 3>don't they saying he don't want George Floyd.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I don't think. I can't believe.

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And you talked about that. You also said something else

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that I think is powerful, and I don't think that

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>we can, you know, sort of blosso over that there

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>are also people from the state of New Jersey who

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>have unfortunately experienced abuse, murder at the hands of police,

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and even placement as well. And you know, I don't

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>disagree with that. I think that's also true. And so

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>perhaps the meeting of the minds is to create some

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>type of memorial outside of the Academy that has the

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>names of local New Jersey residents who have also experienced

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the same type, maybe not exactly as George Floyd. We

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>know that George Floyd is bigger than George Floyd. I

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>mean he represents that moment, represents a moment in history

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>where the entire world has had to acknowledge the racial discrimination,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the oppression, the abuse, you know, state sanctioned violence, all

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of those things at once. But there are other people

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>who need their voices lifted as well. And I think

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>that your idea is something that in the next council

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you should be pushing some type of memorial outside of

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the Academy that that you know, really looks at some

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of those other individuals and their stories. I think the

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>point is that we should. And one of the things

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>about politics that I think upsets a lot of people,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>makes them feel that they don't want to participate, is

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>one that compromise is very difficult for people in their

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>regular lives, in their regulars. And I know that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I was gonna say to you earlier,

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>but you were saying, you know, you were speaking, it

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>was so good that I didn't want to cut you off.

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I know that that even though y'all

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't say a lot of Curtis words and whatever, you

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely were not people that need to be played with. Right.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So now when you're trying to talk to people and

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they talking crazy to you, you kind of like, yo,

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like like I don't know where I'm gonna go with this,

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm trying to be the counsel person, but but

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to take me to an old thing that

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get away from. So that's an issue

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>because in compromise, you know, sometimes it's difficult for people

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>to hear one another, to respect one another and compromise,

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and then what happens is the whole system shuts down,

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and the voters, the frustrated voters of our society see

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the shutdown and they are like, to hell with it.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>You shut down, and I'm going to shut down too.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 1>So everybody has a shutdown. So the thing I think

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>about Ross or mayor Baraka that we appreciate is that

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>he is very good at navigating tension.

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Yes he is.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.439
<v Speaker 1>He is well moving despite the fact that there may

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>be difference of opinions and a lot of different issues

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>because He's dealing with a lot of people coming from

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the most radical to the most conservative side of the spectrum,

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>all all of them trying to come together, and he's

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>really good at navigating that. So I think you're in

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>a great city to be your first year as a councilman,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I think because there's a

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of other places. If you were here in New

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>York under Mayn Bloomberg, you might have been in jail.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I just want to I just like,

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 3>once again, I want to thank them, because don't I

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 3>don't walk like them, I don't talk like them.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't even dress like them.

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 3>But I can see my inspiration and my influence starting

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 3>to influence the entire city hall. And that's just it's

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 3>not just me, it's the culture that we come from,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that hip hop culture.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 3>I got wearing sneakers with suits with from Russell Simmons go,

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, and I just did it.

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 5>I didn't make it up, but I tell you this,

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 5>My mayor now does it. Everybody in this building does it.

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 5>And that's just to say that the power of who

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 5>we are as people who we are in the community

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 5>and and my my my governance now me as an

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 5>elected official, I just pray that that not only to

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 5>the people in city Hall, but to the people who

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 5>are outside of city Hall, the people who are in

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 5>the neighborhoods. Because I think when you change your mindset,

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 5>you change your viewpoint, you change advantage point of different things.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 5>And I just believe like when you can change that

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 5>into love, When you love something, you treat it differently, right,

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, when you love your city, you can change it.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 5>That's what I believe. But a lot of people don't

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 5>love themselves. And sometimes when you don't understand something, you

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 5>push it away, you know, you shun it.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh no, I don't I don't. I don't eat that,

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 4>but you.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 5>Never taste it. Oh I don't want to go there,

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 5>but you've never been there. I don't want to, you know,

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 5>So it's we push it away. And I think that

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people they really don't understand the process

0:36:57.560 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 5>of politics in our city.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 4>So you know, you'll get people coming to the council

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 4>meetings and they're.

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Loud but wrong, you know, I mean very loud, and

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 3>the people like yeah, and I'm like, yeah, what Google

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 3>is It's not just it's not just your city, it's politics, period, right,

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Because people don't understand politics. They just think, we want

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 3>this to go this way, and it should just be

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 3>you be able to snap a finger. We voted you

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 3>in and you need to just be able to do this, right.

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 3>And I used to be one of those people, right

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 3>until I started having friends like yourself, having friends like

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<v Speaker 3>Jimiani Williams, who is the Public Advocate of New York,

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 3>Natasha Williams who's also city council in Queens, and just

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 3>a plethora of other individuals who work in government. I

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 3>started to understand that the things that we wanted weren't

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 3>as simple as we thought they were. You know, it's

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 3>not just you snap a finger. We vote you, and

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>you should be able to do whatever you want. And

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>when you start understanding that reality, you start looking at

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 3>things different. So I've had those conversations with people, you know,

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>and I've had it and they be like, nah, you

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.280
<v Speaker 3>don't and I'm like, no, you don't understand.

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Is the process that it goes through.

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have to continue to push our elected officials

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 3>and make sure that they advocate on our side and

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 3>make sure that they're doing what they said, but it's

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>not I'm always up to them the ship that you

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>think supposed to So you can't just put all the

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 3>blame on them.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>But people don't want to hear that when.

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 3>When you living in the community, when people are frustrated,

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 3>people are hungry, they pour it's a lot of things

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 3>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and to me was having this conversation yesterday that

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot going on with people.

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 3>People are in so many different it's so many like

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 3>we get calls, DMS, emails, so many different people that's

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>dealing with so much different trauma and stress, and you

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 3>know things are not going right, and they looking for

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 3>somebody to blame. You know what, I'm a lot of

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 3>times we get to blame account old accountability.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 2>You just want accountability.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 3>But there's also some people that just want to blame

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.439
<v Speaker 3>people too, So there's a there's a balance between both

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 3>of them. Like we get we get thrown under the

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 3>bust of shit that we got nothing to do with.

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Like if I if I advocate for one person because

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I know their story, and it was like, oh, you phony,

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 3>because you ain't talking about Jojo who got shot here,

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 3>But you're gonna talk I'm like, well, I didn't even

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 3>know Joe. I don't even know Jojo got shot. How

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 3>you holding me accountable? I don't know nothing that got

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 3>to do with Jojo. But but this is how people

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 3>start putting things in their mind. So I'm never wanted

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 3>to do politics based on that because I watch what

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 3>you actually have to deal with, and I want to

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 3>be able to say and do what I want when

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 3>I want. I hear you. I love I love the

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 3>fact I've actually evolved, right, But I still want to

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>be able to say, look, yeah, but I still want

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 3>to be able to say, you can't talk to me crazy,

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take you around the corner and we're gonna

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 3>have to get fired. I want to be able to

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 3>do that. That's the reason why I want to go

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 3>into the phone to go off.

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are an example, though, of why more black men should

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<v Speaker 1>consider running for office to make the change that they're

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>looking for in their local communities. Right, you think about

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a Congressman, Jamal Bowman in New York. This man is

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a teacher, principal turned now a congressman, and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go further. I know he is right, and I

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>think and of course there's a side of me that

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 1>is in that that that has to push back even

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>on what I said, because black women certainly need to

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>run for office more, but the support that's necessary for

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a black woman to win is very challenging and then

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>for her to stay in position because the system so

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 1>easily comes up against black women, and you know, people

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like, oh well, I mean if you

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>think about the list of black women from Kim Fox,

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 1>who's the state's attorney in Wiskim in Chicago, to Maryland

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Moseley in marriag Caryland, and the list goes on and on,

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and how they are being ripped to shreds, literally ripped

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to shreds. It makes other black women run. But I

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 1>think you, counselmen Kelly, are an example of why people

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 1>should run. They need to. But you can't just run

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>for your one seat. You got to look at the

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>entire city because now when counsel will at the time,

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>when do it all helps ros Baraka become mayor, right

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>then you run for counsel and you have other friends

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>that run for assembly, you start the corner off your

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>community and be able to make the type of change

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're looking to do. So I think more black

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>men should certainly gather with that thought process in mind.

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 5>Yo, that's an amazing example. You just did to make it,

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 5>because that's really what it is. We helped Rise become mayor,

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 5>and in turn, he helped me become counselmen, you know.

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 5>And I think that with us going back and grabbing

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 5>each other. And we have a woman council president and

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 5>Lamonica mcguyver and.

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 4>He was her fifth grade teacher when she was in

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 4>the fifth grade, ras was her teacher. Now she's the

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 4>president of the council and part of his team.

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 5>I think that people are not really looking at the succession.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 4>And we have to prepare for that too, right.

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, we have nine council members on here in

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<v Speaker 5>Jersey and some people, you know, in different states, different cities,

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 5>there's a different body of municipal council.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 3>But here in north we have five, one that represents

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 3>each ward. We have five wards, and then we have

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 3>four at largest.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 5>So I represent the ward that I grew up in,

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 5>which is about seventy thousand residents.

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 4>You know, in some places, seventy.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Thousand residents is the whole entire city, you know, So

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 3>I really have a mini city that I have to

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 3>govern over. And one thing I can really say is

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 3>that Mayor Baraka allows me to govern over.

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 4>That city, over those residents and all of us.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:11.720
<v Speaker 3>So when it comes to talking about bringing people along,

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 3>we have to.

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 4>Set up a farm system. You know. One of the

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 4>reasons that I am.

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Counseling farm system. A farm system.

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Farm system, yeah, farm system, you know what I mean.

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 3>So the reason, one of the reasons that I am

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 3>counseling is because of a conversation that I had with Tupacs,

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 3>your corps back in nineteen ninety two in a motel

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 3>in Orlando, Florida, while on tour.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 4>And it's crazy because that conversation.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm on POC laws and the underground and Tupac was

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.399
<v Speaker 3>sharing a sixteen passenger van.

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 5>We wasn't even on tour buses yet, you know, and

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 5>we was in a motel where you had to go

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 5>in the room outside not inside, you know what I mean.

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 4>So, but just to fast.

0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 5>Forward the story, Pot came to my room, and you know,

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 5>we had an altercation before that day. He came to

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 5>my room first of all, like a man to squash it,

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. So he came to my

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 5>room and through that conversation. Through that we got into

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 5>this conversation. He said, dude, we have to turn millions

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 5>of record biers into millions of voters.

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 4>And then once we do that, and he.

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 5>Started naming all of the rappers that was popular back

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 5>in ninety two. You know, he would say, Common has

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 5>to do it in Chicago, you entrench you and Redman

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 5>need to do it in New it Tresh needs to

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.359
<v Speaker 5>do it in East starch Ice q to do it

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 5>in Central Los Angeles.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I'll do it in Baltimore and Oakland.

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 5>And he just started naming all of these people and

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 5>he started to talk like a.

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 4>Twenty twenty one year old and I've never.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 5>Heard talk like that before, you know, and saying that

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 5>we have to be accountable and start youth organizations and

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 5>youth groups and protect our women and protect our senyers.

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he was blowing my mind.

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 5>And then he said, you know, we have to do

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 5>something that we might not want to do because you know,

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 5>all right, rappers were against politicians. He said, we might

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 5>have to become legislators. Almost didn't know he was talking

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 5>about it. I was legislators, man, we rappers.

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 4>He was like, yeah, but.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 7>If we don't make the laws for us, or if

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 7>we're not at the table making laws or thiss and

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 7>colds for us, then they will make it for us

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 7>and it won't be for us.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Before us, you know, and talk to you for the

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>rest of the son.

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 3>But we could definitely stay and told to you tonight.

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 3>But I just want I just want to show what

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>hip hop is. It's so big and the culture of it.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.919
<v Speaker 3>Like just looking at the connection of you and Ross.

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Speaker 3>People don't know that Ross is so loves hip hop

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 3>and he actually has a hip hop album that you

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 3>guys could be that I've watched him, you know, see

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying and listening to his little you know that

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:52.800
<v Speaker 3>he's so influenced by the culture.

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 2>And now it's time for the.

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Culture that influences this world to dictate and govern this world.

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.919
<v Speaker 3>And that's what is showing. It's showing like and it's

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 3>not just that it's just government. When you look at

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Newer it is a model for governments all around this world.

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Like the way that you guys deal with violence and

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 3>the way that you deal with community is a model

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 3>for the world to look at.

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just saying it shows the culture.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>When you are culturally competent and you have respect in

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 3>your community, when you take community leaders in community credible

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 3>messages and you connect those back to the communities that

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 3>they're governing, you will see the change.

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's something that inspires me when I watch you guys.

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.839
<v Speaker 3>It inspires me to do the work that I do

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 3>because I know the work that I do. Even if

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not one of those government officials, I'm inspiring someone

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 3>who's going to be in the next who's going to

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 3>be there, They're gonna say, Okay, I've seen what my.

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Song does in this community.

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 3>I want to take that and I want to put

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 3>it in these political offices, even if it's not what

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 3>I do. So I just want to say, what you

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 3>do and where you come from is so motivational, inspirational

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of us.

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Man. So continue, you know, continue to do what to

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>work you do. We salute you. You know you my brother.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be my brother with.

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 2>You all the time, working with you all the time.

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 3>I just want you to give us, you know, one

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 3>last word that you would give us before you leave.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 5>Before I leave, I just want to add on to

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 5>what you're saying I know you guys gotta go. But

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 5>just talking about Nork being a model and having a

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 5>leader like rash Jay Baraka in the seat who does

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 5>things that really push our city forward. Today, we just

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 5>in our pre counsul tomorrow we'll vote on it. But

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 5>he bought the Temple of hip Hop to North New

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 5>Jersey and gave it a home. Harent One is now

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 5>opening the school of the Temple of hip Hop.

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 3>And I've seen him try to open this in Harlem.

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I seen him try to open it in the Bronx.

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Rasbarakas gave this guy a building. The Temple of hip.

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 5>Hop is now located in North New Jersey Southward.

0:47:58.520 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 4>That amazing to me.

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 5>We got the teacher here that's gonna be running programming.

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 4>Out of our city.

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 3>That's an international hub now in New Jersey.

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.800
<v Speaker 4>That's like, that's just for me. That's just like bringing

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 4>Prudential or.

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 5>Mars or you go to the building one of those corporations.

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 5>He just bought a solidified value to our city and

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 5>the teacher with Karris want in the Temple of hip Hop,

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:25.479
<v Speaker 5>that are gonna do.

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Many great things.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 5>So man, Nework is definitely becoming a model for a

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:34.399
<v Speaker 5>certain man you know. And one last thing too, mice

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 5>when you talk about our men in our communities. I

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 5>just started this thing called Men Talk Sundays, where we go.

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.439
<v Speaker 3>Into the parks and I grab all of the men,

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 3>all of those and.

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 5>I guess that's why I still have certain relationships with them.

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 5>I go to these communities and I tell them, I

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 5>need you to come talk.

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 4>I need you to what. It was inspired by one

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 4>of the big gang banger.

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Here who I have a relationship, was mad at me

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 3>because I wasn't returning his phone calls.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 5>But he don't understand. I'm just really busy. So anytime

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 5>somebody has an issue, I go right to him. So

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:08.760
<v Speaker 5>I went right to him.

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:10.759
<v Speaker 4>What's up? What's the problem with nah?

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 3>I do?

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't want you to get no big head but

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 5>being no, it's not that. But look, I want you

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 5>to come with me for the day now. I want

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 5>you to work with me. I want you to build

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 5>with me and see what I do. And he came

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 5>with me. We went to lunch.

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Yet we had an amazing conversation. But with that conversation

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 4>showed me was that we need each other.

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 5>I learned something through that conversation by him pointing into me.

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm pointing to him, and it inspired me to grab

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:38.240
<v Speaker 5>all of the dudes from the neighborhood put.

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Them in the park.

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 5>I have Red Man as my keynote speaker talking about

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 5>facing your fears. And when I said this man did

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 5>amazing people like you have Red Man as your keynote speaker.

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, he has experiences about facing fears. Anybody you

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:55.319
<v Speaker 3>know can't tell another man about his experiences. So I

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 3>put Man when I tell you he inspired these brothers. Man,

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 3>and I say that because August twenty seventh is our

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 3>next men talk Sundays in the Park and Mince, I

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 3>would love you to be my keynote speaker for that day.

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 3>If you available Man, August twenty seventh and we can talk.

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:11.439
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna try.

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna try because August August, either August twenty sixth

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 3>or twenty seventh, I do my annual day in my

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 3>in the Bronx, so it's Merriam Day I usually do

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 3>my annual days. I had to push it back to

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 3>either the twenty six or the twenty seventh, so I'm

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna decide if I do it on the twenty six.

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 2>What happened and I ain't available that day.

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>She looked right, I say a thing, I just just.

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 2>It might not work.

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 4>So I don't even get one day if that don't go.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Definitely, definitely, Because I'm actually doing the men's talk inside

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:46.360
<v Speaker 3>in September.

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a big I want to.

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Hold about five hundred men where I'm sitting down with

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 3>five hundred minute We're gonna we're gonna iron out, and

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna decide how we're gonna govern our communities, how

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna take back our communities, how we're gonna love

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 3>on our young kings, how we're gonna raise that, how

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna show them with real right to passages, what

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 3>manhood manhood really is.

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:06.959
<v Speaker 2>So it is a line.

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, the work we do is definitely a line.

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna figure it out. We'll figure it out, definitely.

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Man, Thank you so much for being with us today.

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>You know we just need to go. We got to

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>go to Nework and sit down and talk as we

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>have in the past, do it again because it's so

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 1>much to be said. And I think, you know, I'm

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 1>having prophecy moments here. I think you really do need

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to be doing videos and things encouraging people to run

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.240
<v Speaker 1>for office and telling them your story, right like short

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>clips of videos. This is what I did first, second, third,

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>this is how I did it. This is what you

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>need to be involved with in your community prior to running.

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Because there are people who ask me all the time

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I want, but I just don't know what to do

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and how to do it. And I think coming from you,

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>because you know people are attracted to success, So coming

0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>from you, who is successful at selling music, I think

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you will also be successful as selling getting our people

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>nationally to be more involved in.

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 4>And before you go, I have been doing that.

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 5>So I started my election tour last week and I

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 5>started in Charleston, West Virginia. An election tour talks about

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:20.439
<v Speaker 5>how arts and entertainment can foster change in community through

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 5>policy and politics, you know.

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:24.760
<v Speaker 4>And I started in Charleston.

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 5>I have Tampa, Orlando, Milwaukee, Winston, Salem, and Charlotte coming

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 5>up next.

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 4>We're doing it.

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>That's what we need and we want to help you

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>promote it. We got to go because we've got to

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.319
<v Speaker 1>end this show. We would never end if we let

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:48.839
<v Speaker 1>you continue to stay. Gyms. Thank you counselmaning Man real.

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm definitely a supporter.

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, counselmen. Do pray Kelly who is better known

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:55.760
<v Speaker 1>as do it.

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 4>All all right and Mike as we're gonna be all

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna talk about it.

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely we can get you all right.

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 2>All right, can't peace Man.

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to my brother duprey do it oh. Kelly

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Man one of the realist dudes. Man one of my

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 3>favorite hip hop artists. If you don't know, the Lords

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 3>of the Undergrounds and a lot of y'all young dudes

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 3>probably don't know, but go look it up.

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, they got some of the dopest music.

0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:26.720
<v Speaker 3>He's one of the dopest artists man, And just watching

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 3>his evolution is inspirational to me, you know, with the

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 3>work he's doing, you know, not only just the work

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.919
<v Speaker 3>he's doing, the way he's doing the work. He's doing

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.280
<v Speaker 3>it in his authentic self. And a lot of people

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 3>don't understand that. A lot of people think that you

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 3>have to look a certain way, sound a certain way,

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, you have to capitulate to a certain narrative

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 3>in order to do the work.

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 2>And he's not.

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 3>He's not that individual like he says, he walks in

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 3>there with suits and sneakers. He got his newer cat on.

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 3>He comes, he brings the culture of hip hop with

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 3>him into you know, the Councilman's So he's motivational to

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 3>me because I always want to be authentic in myself.

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I always want to bring the streets of the New

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 3>York City in the Bronx and and bring the real

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 3>voices of my community into any space. And I don't

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 3>want people to think that you have to sound or

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 3>look a certain way. So he's motivational to me. So

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 3>shout out to him for the work he's doing. You know,

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 3>we we we had a good interview. So I don't

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 3>really I don't really have a I don't get.

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't. I have plenty of I don't get it,

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 1>but we can save one.

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean I do have a I don't get it.

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I just don't get how they had a fight that

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:51.360
<v Speaker 3>was heralded as the biggest fight in the century.

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the boxes looked like he was an amateur.

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 3>And there's no no disrespect because I'm an aerospence fan

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 3>and I think he's a dope boxer. But I'm just

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 3>trying to say I don't know. I do not get

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 3>what happened. Like there's been a lot of things I said.

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 3>If you look at my Instagram page, I said, I

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 3>think he was high because he looked high. I was

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 3>heard what.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:14.800
<v Speaker 1>You was talking about, you know, my challenges.

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was just like, man, he just looked high

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.720
<v Speaker 3>to me. And then somebody, one of my friends who's

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 3>also an aerospince fan, sent me something that said that,

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, he was hit by he was thrown out

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.319
<v Speaker 3>of a moving car at one hundred miles an hour,

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 3>so he was he was he had he was in

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 3>serious injury, and he boy, he came back to fighting

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.480
<v Speaker 3>you know's and he's had a few fights since. But

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:40.280
<v Speaker 3>they're saying that he's dealing with neurological you know, injury,

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 3>and they can tell based off that. So this was

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 3>what some quote unquote neurologists were saying on the incident.

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I just don't get. Like I've

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 3>been watching boxing my whole life. My father used to

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 3>have me sitting in front of the TV watching boxing

0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:01.240
<v Speaker 3>matches my whole life, and I've never seen someone who

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:05.399
<v Speaker 3>was that top tier of a fighter lose that bad.

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 3>I just never and and it's not taking nothing away

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:12.839
<v Speaker 3>from Budd Club because I have already said that I

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 3>felt Bud was the better fighter.

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought Bud was gonna win the fight.

0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 3>But the way that Aerospence fought or didn't fight, to

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:23.280
<v Speaker 3>me was just mind boggle.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:24.839
<v Speaker 2>So I don't get it.

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Maybe people can whatever it is, he's either high, he

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 3>was either dealing with some neurological or he really just

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:35.360
<v Speaker 3>needs to retire. But a lot of people talking about,

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 3>oh a rematch. I do not want to see that

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Erospence that walk into that that ring fight again ever,

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:43.760
<v Speaker 3>So I'm.

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Not interested in seeing that.

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I want that man because if he goes in there

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:51.399
<v Speaker 3>with that level of fighting again, he might really really

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.439
<v Speaker 3>because he was his face was really he was really

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 3>beat up bad. If he goes in there and fighting

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 3>like that again, he can really suffer some real brain

0:56:58.960 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 3>damage or something.

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 2>So I don't even want to see him fight like

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:01.919
<v Speaker 2>that again.

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to diminish his legacy with him.

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>That's powerful just to say I don't because I thought

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you were gonna say you don't want to diminish the

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>value of boxing.

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 3>No, his legacy. He's too good a boxer. He's too good.

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I've watched some box and I've seen him. He's one

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 3>of the most aggressive, punishing, like the way he fights

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 3>to fight like that, it diminished because people was mad

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 3>at me because I put my top fight five boxers

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 3>right now and I didn't.

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Put him in people's like, and I was like, because

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 2>the way that he fought.

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 3>It took him completely right until he does something else,

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 3>like if I never seen him happen, you.

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Know, I'm saying, that's what happens. Like you you lose.

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 3>That fight was the worst fight I ever seen any

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 3>top tier fighter ever have. Like I've seen top tier

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 3>fighters lose that wasn't supposed to lose, that got upset.

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I've seen Mike lose. I've seen you know what I'm saying,

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Wilder lose.

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it.

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 3>But they was all in the fight, like even when

0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 3>they were lost, they was fighting. Like you could tell

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:03.919
<v Speaker 3>some of them got a little slower, they got older things,

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 3>but they didn't get beat, beat beat beat like that.

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen something like that where the man probably

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 3>landed maybe three punches of significance, like nah, not.

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:15.959
<v Speaker 1>An eight round How many rounds did they fight?

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Theyfore eight rounds? He got knocked down three times, and

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:23.440
<v Speaker 3>then in they fought nine rounds. They four nine rounds,

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 3>he got knocked down three times and then the knife

0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 3>round they stopped the fight.

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty sad. I mean, you know, I didn't watch it,

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>but I saw it. Sure, there was a lot of

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>chatter about it on the internet. But I do appreciate

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that you said you want the man's legacy too good

0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>he's and some of our leaders. There's a similar conversation

0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>that happens as you see. You know, look at now

0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 1>what has happened with revend Jesse Jackson, who's now passed

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the baton to uh the to Reverend doctor Freddie Haynes,

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>who is my dear other, our friend and Freddie, and

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>let me say that, say that again now, you know,

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 1>we talk about making sure you preserve your legacy. You see,

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 1>even in this moment where Reveren Jesse Jackson has passed

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the baton of leadership of Rainbow Push Coalition, which is

0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 1>his organization, to our friend and brother, doctor Freddie Haynes,

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the third out of Dallas, Texas. And we know it's

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>very clear that Reverend Jackson is dealing with severe illness.

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not the same as he was when he was younger,

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 1>or even just five years ago. He's changed, you know,

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>because of his condition. And I think it was important

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<v Speaker 1>because he's talked about passing the baton in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all have that, we all, every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of us who has ever led something, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>a company, even your toy that you had when you

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<v Speaker 1>were young, a shirt that you love, you hold it

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<v Speaker 1>so dear, but you look crazy now that you've grown

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<v Speaker 1>to a big woman's size and you still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>wear this same shirt that used to do it for

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<v Speaker 1>you at the club when you was young, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you outside with your stomach hanging over and people looking

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<v Speaker 1>at you, and you're embarrassing yourself. So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to pass things on to the next person

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna take care of it and love it and

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<v Speaker 1>treat it the same way that you had to preserve

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<v Speaker 1>your own legacy, even more so than theirs. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you don't have yourself out here

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<v Speaker 1>looking crazy because you still trying to keep up with

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<v Speaker 1>the old you, and the old you is not the

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<v Speaker 1>new you. And I think, listening to what you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know nothing about the boxer you spoke of but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what's most important is your health. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I think we have to start

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<v Speaker 1>putting our health first and not taking opportunity first and

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<v Speaker 1>then trying to figure out how to back into the health.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I'm speaking as a person who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>always listen to that, but I think this is an

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<v Speaker 1>example of that type of situation pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that said, thank you for coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>We love you brings us to the end of another episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank y'all for being with us. We love you brings

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<v Speaker 3>us to the end of another powerful episode. The Street

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<v Speaker 3>Politicians shout out to do pray do it all, Kelly Counselman,

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<v Speaker 3>do pray do it all?

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly my guy for.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming here, dropping some gems, giving us a lot to

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<v Speaker 3>just ponder on. Man, it was a dope episode. Hit

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<v Speaker 3>us up at Street Politicians Pod. Let us know what

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<v Speaker 3>you like, let us know what you don't like, tell

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<v Speaker 3>us you love us. Continue to make us the number

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<v Speaker 3>one podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>In the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika, the marriage

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<v Speaker 3>is not gonna always be wrong, but we will both

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<v Speaker 3>always and I mean always, always, always be authentic.

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<v Speaker 4>Peace.

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