WEBVTT - The Top 10 Dynasty Risers and Fallers + The All-Dynasty Risers Team (Ep. 912)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Baseball Podcast. I am Ryan Warmley,

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<v Speaker 2>joined by Chris Wels.

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<v Speaker 1>It is still in November.

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<v Speaker 2>We are very much in football mode right now, but

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<v Speaker 2>we are also thinking about baseball. We've had some awards

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<v Speaker 2>announcements coming out lately. We are just a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks away, Welsh from the Winter Meetings, which I have

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<v Speaker 2>very fond memories growing up as just one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most fun weeks of the year and just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>following all the twists and turns.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember there was one year of the Orioles.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Prince Fielder when I was in college,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was really exciting imagining, you know, all the

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<v Speaker 2>fun transactions we could see. So we are, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not as far away as you might think from some

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<v Speaker 2>real fantasy baseball discussion. We are bringing you, folks, some

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy baseball podcasts in the offseason. Here kind of tied

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<v Speaker 2>us over before we really dive deep in January. You've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing a couple of these shows already well with

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Alrico some other short form videos, and we decided

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<v Speaker 2>to get you and me together here to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>some dynasty risers and Follers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm also baseball. We're in football mode, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always in baseball. Most people know, like the Arizona Fall

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<v Speaker 3>League just ended, so I'm dealing with this. This is

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<v Speaker 3>my seasonal depression because then baseball actually just ended for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, from a dynasty perspective, watching a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of top prospects that are going to have some dynasty

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<v Speaker 3>impact here, and I'm excited to do this, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing more baseball than we've ever done. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>funny you mentioned the Winter meetings. In my previous life,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a job, a corporate job that the hotel

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<v Speaker 3>next to it was the hotel that players basketball and

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<v Speaker 3>baseball players would go to, and they had the winter

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<v Speaker 3>meetings here in Arizona, and they would go at that

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<v Speaker 3>hotel for one or two of the years. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say when I was at that company, and I remember,

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<v Speaker 3>you would if you went down, you would just see guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You would see just owners and you would see players.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember Brian Wilson famously, the big bearded closer for

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants. It was like a hundred I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess this wasn't Winter meetings, but it was one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ten him walking around with you know, with the

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<v Speaker 3>shirt out into jeans and doing all that. But the

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<v Speaker 3>winter meetings, these guys all walking around felt very intimate

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<v Speaker 3>in that that you got to, I got to almost

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of it. But we're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of moves. All of this and the transactional changes

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<v Speaker 3>from teams to player values is pretty exciting. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know what we say, it's only November and baseball is

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<v Speaker 3>still a little bit of ways. It's already going. Drafts

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<v Speaker 3>are going, NFBC is going. I'm excited to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm very excited to talk dynasty with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love dynasty.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the fantasy sport that I most enjoy, the

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<v Speaker 2>dynasty keeper league type of format. You know, I do

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<v Speaker 2>play in some of those for like college basketball even

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<v Speaker 2>but football obviously, but baseball is really where, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the prospects are just so much of a bigger part

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<v Speaker 2>of the experience of playing fantasy baseball than you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not minor leagues for football, right it's just college

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<v Speaker 2>guys coming in, So it's a different experience doing dynasty

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the reasons why this is the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hop on with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love talking through the long term value and risers

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<v Speaker 2>and followers in.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of format.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's dive right in. We're gonna do risers. We'll go

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<v Speaker 2>five to one that we'll give you some followers five

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<v Speaker 2>to one. These are gonna be Welsh's picks, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of kind of talk them out and why

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<v Speaker 2>we feel the way we feel about them. Then at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the show, we're gonna give an all

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<v Speaker 2>Dynasty riser team. I thought that would be a fun,

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<v Speaker 2>quick little thing at the end where we give you

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<v Speaker 2>one guy at each position who kind of builds out

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<v Speaker 2>the team of guys that are rising down before we

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<v Speaker 2>dive in, just to give kind of the a framework

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<v Speaker 2>of the episode for people.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you viewing these and these are the names you

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<v Speaker 1>put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you viewing them as guys who rose the most

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<v Speaker 2>last year or guys who you think are poised to

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<v Speaker 2>rise the most this year, or some kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>the in between, just like in the middle of rising

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<v Speaker 2>right now and then following when we get to that segment.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question. So I view these as the

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<v Speaker 3>big change year over year for people to understand we

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<v Speaker 3>kind of did something similar in the redraft of Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, familiarize yourself. These are players last year that

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<v Speaker 3>have really changed their rank into upcoming years drafts. These

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<v Speaker 3>are players that they're dynasty value year over year has

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<v Speaker 3>had a major change. And you know that can come

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<v Speaker 3>from players that you know, it's really difficult with prospects

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<v Speaker 3>and young guys that it's like younger players are going

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<v Speaker 3>to rank a lot higher in Dynasty just in general.

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<v Speaker 3>But even some of these young guys have just taken

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<v Speaker 3>another step in their value. So again there's a bigger,

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<v Speaker 3>longer question about these players breaking out, but no, this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be the biggest changers of their dynasty

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<v Speaker 3>value to start last year if you were starting a

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<v Speaker 3>fresh one to this year. And the same thing with

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<v Speaker 3>the guys that are falling. Those are players that ranked

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<v Speaker 3>probably from anywhere from a decent amount to quite a

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<v Speaker 3>bit higher last season and then due to this most

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<v Speaker 3>recent season age things we're going to talk about have

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<v Speaker 3>fallen in the ranks. Whether that is you guys restarting

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<v Speaker 3>and starting up a new Dynasty draft, which I highly

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<v Speaker 3>suggest if you have not played Dynasty like Worm is

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<v Speaker 3>saying you should, I think it brings life even more

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<v Speaker 3>to fantasy baseball, if ever you've been fringy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But whether you're starting up or you want to understand

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<v Speaker 3>value because in the off season you're gonna get the Hawks,

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<v Speaker 3>the Sharks are gonna be circling around trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>your players. Hey, you know what you should trade me?

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson Cheerio. He was pretty good, right, but he only

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<v Speaker 3>had a DODA. They're gonna be circling, So you want

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<v Speaker 3>to understand the values, and that'll be That's my approach

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<v Speaker 3>to this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>My best, just quickly, I don't know my best dynasty league.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more of like a deep keeper league. You keep fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at cost my best one of those that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in, I have a one dollar Bobby Witt Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>a one dollar Gunner Henderson, and a one dollar Jackson Cheerio.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am feeling darn good about that league. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I only play one redraft league a year. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the work league. Like the rest I too. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean sometimes I'll do like some of the contest stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but like in terms of just like an annual league

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<v Speaker 2>with the same kind of friends, a group of people

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<v Speaker 2>it's I so largely do dynasty now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just really prefer it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's funny you say that because there's a

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<v Speaker 3>couple there's like the you know, you maybe played a

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<v Speaker 3>long time and you might have this monster. I've had

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of those where it's like, you know your

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<v Speaker 3>major guide one is like Vlad and I had a

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<v Speaker 3>Kunya and all those build ups, and then you have

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<v Speaker 3>those teams that you've been working on. Mutual friend friend

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<v Speaker 3>of the show Scott White from CBS, He's got this

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<v Speaker 3>the long term Scott White Dynasty leagues that I took

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<v Speaker 3>over three or four years ago to twenty fourteen league.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going into this year finally I drafted Paul Skeins,

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<v Speaker 3>I got Corbyn Carroll, I got Bobby Witt, I got Otani.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm finally ready to compete and Skeens is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the big piece to it in a points league. So

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<v Speaker 3>building up and finally being ready to go off of

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<v Speaker 3>that dynasty is very rewarding. But also seeing the fruits

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<v Speaker 3>of your labor four or five years in being like,

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<v Speaker 3>look at those values. That's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to get to some Paul Skeens discussion

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<v Speaker 2>later on, perhaps unsurprisingly, let's start off with a prospect though,

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Anthony in the Miners last season two ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>three ninety six, four ninety eight slash line, so almost

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred on the ops there just a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>under eighteen home runs, twenty one stolen bases, so kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one of those dual threat guys. We'll start next

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<v Speaker 2>season at twenty years old. What led him to being

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<v Speaker 2>on this list as a prospect?

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<v Speaker 3>For you, Welsh, So, I think that's like the big

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<v Speaker 3>question in general about and in the evaluation of dynasty,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically baseball, It's like, how do we fit in the

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<v Speaker 3>prospects because, like you said, there really isn't necessarily that

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<v Speaker 3>in other sport dynasty leagues for the most part, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like you can just throw the rookies in, you can

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<v Speaker 3>throw them up high, and there's usually maybe a year

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<v Speaker 3>transitional period. That's not the case here. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can have guys some people have like Sebastian Walcott who's

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<v Speaker 3>with the Texas Rangers, super young guy, or Leo de Vreese,

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<v Speaker 3>Leo DeVries with the Padres just turned eighteen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Those guys could be top fifty in some dynasty leagues,

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<v Speaker 3>those guys might not play for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a different world. So with that, I also

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<v Speaker 3>think the prospect rank world is not in agreement, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe more than it's ever been in a singular year.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I mean is, I think you check ten

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<v Speaker 3>different people that rank prospects, different number one probably in

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<v Speaker 3>seven of those ten, probably a different number two. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's this big well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why, it's because there's finally not an obvious

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<v Speaker 2>oriole sitting there at number one.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not wrong, You're not right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lovisio.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the last few years, Okay, well it's clearly gutter,

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<v Speaker 2>it's clearly Jackson Holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>We finally don't have that.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, we don't and you're looking for those big

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<v Speaker 3>threats guys. So I'm building this all to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the prospect to say that when you look at prospect rankings,

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<v Speaker 3>I think near the top, Jason Domingez, Dylan Cruz, those

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<v Speaker 3>guys have been there, whether they're one and two on

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<v Speaker 3>a list or four and five, they were on dynasty

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<v Speaker 3>rank lists already pretty high. A majority of the guys

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<v Speaker 3>of coming off the Walker Jenkins was another one. So

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<v Speaker 3>we come to a player that rose dramatically in prospect

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<v Speaker 3>rankings this year and by some outlets is the number

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<v Speaker 3>one prospect in baseball. It's Roman Anthony. So Roman Anthony

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to talk about from a dynasty perspective, because again,

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<v Speaker 3>whether he is number one or he's inside my top five,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not my number one overall prospect. The guy hit

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<v Speaker 3>triple A. The guy put up a monster, monster season.

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<v Speaker 3>Low k rate in triple A was under twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 3>was around eighteen percent. He ran around twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 3>in double A. Projected Steamer numbers. Steamer numbers are already

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<v Speaker 3>out there. So after he just went out and hit

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen homers, still twenty one bases. Both increases. He's increased,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, pretty much every year he's been playing. Steamer

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<v Speaker 3>has him for a light fifty ish games. But if

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<v Speaker 3>we were to take Steamer's projections, which are usually relatively

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<v Speaker 3>low on prospects, the one hundred and sixty two game

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<v Speaker 3>pace is roughly twenty fifteen eighteen fifteen, right in that

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<v Speaker 3>general range. So I just want to give you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a perspective of where that's at. Now. They've got

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<v Speaker 3>a quadrant of players that are in TRIPAA. They've got

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<v Speaker 3>Marcelo Mayer, They've got Christian Campbell, Kyle Teal, and Roman Anthony.

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<v Speaker 3>All of those guys are on the precipice of coming

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<v Speaker 3>to the majors. Maybe a couple of them get moved,

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<v Speaker 3>it won't be Roman Anthony. I think Roman Anthony is

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<v Speaker 3>the key piece to this team. Really good patients, huge

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<v Speaker 3>big hard hit numbers. Will have to continue to monitor,

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<v Speaker 3>like where the contact stuff goes as we get in,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's big hard hit numbers. This team loves him,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a legit chance some of the trade options

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<v Speaker 3>that this team has talked about in the off season,

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<v Speaker 3>our guy's like Willie or Brady to open up spots.

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<v Speaker 3>So we circle it all back to say, prospects are

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<v Speaker 3>going to shine and jump out to people on Dynasty lists,

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<v Speaker 3>and the top two at least in my world, Dylan

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<v Speaker 3>Cruise and Jason Dominguez are already in the majors. So

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<v Speaker 3>Roman Anthony is one that is going to fly out

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<v Speaker 3>to you. I've got him inside my top seventy five.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a legit shot to be up this season

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<v Speaker 3>and beat Steamer expectations of games played. Could easily hit

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and more or maybe we get shocked because

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<v Speaker 3>he hit triple A and this team is open to

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<v Speaker 3>putting him in the majors when we talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>compensatory pick. So I say all of this to say

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<v Speaker 3>from a rank dynasty perspective, because he moved up so

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<v Speaker 3>much on everybody's prospect list and has vaulted into the

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<v Speaker 3>number one spot. He's going to rank somewhere between probably

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five and eighty five on any dynasty list out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's a super young triple A outfielder who does

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<v Speaker 3>not have everything locked in, but is a big future

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<v Speaker 3>of the game. And that's a massive dynasty change just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of across the landscape compared to the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the prospects that are out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Something like round five, round six in a startup, is

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<v Speaker 2>that where you'd be eyeing to take him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So there's also a big conversation about, like how

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<v Speaker 3>do you treat dynasty. Are you a win now? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you a middle like I'm going to kind of take

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<v Speaker 3>pieces of everything or are you going to be I'm

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<v Speaker 3>playing for the future. If you were playing for the future,

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<v Speaker 3>Roman Anthony might be a third or fourth round pick

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<v Speaker 3>in dynasty. If you're just kind of median across the board,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, like you kind of nailed that. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, if I have him in the seventies and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a fifteen team league, fourth, fifth, sixth round somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>in there, it's a good future play.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to some of our major league players here

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<v Speaker 2>who have risen up. Mark Ventas the Mets twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>home runs in one hundred and eleven games, won't turn

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five until next month. Eight thirty seven ops, one

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five ops plus in twenty twenty four, just like

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome breakout season. I did not see coming going

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<v Speaker 2>into the twenty twenty four and now is somebody I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot more excited to drive twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the dynasty ranking goes, where do you

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<v Speaker 2>have him?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I completely agree with you too. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone thought this was going to be Brett Batty. Brett

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<v Speaker 3>Batty was going to be the one, like, hey, he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to play a whole bunch, and Venta's had some

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<v Speaker 3>big swing and misissues and he still does. So I

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<v Speaker 3>have Vienta's inside my top one hundred. I've actually got

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<v Speaker 3>Roman anthe a little bit higher. Totally could understand if

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<v Speaker 3>someone's like, hey, that's under selling. Look at that power.

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<v Speaker 3>He's thirty plus home run projected every single season. Not

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<v Speaker 3>going to argue there. I think he's somewhere in that

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<v Speaker 3>same general like seventy five to one hundred. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>him specifically right at ninety one. Right now. What I

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<v Speaker 3>really love he hits lefties and righty's well, at least

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<v Speaker 3>he did this past season. A phenomenal fourteen point one

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<v Speaker 3>percent barrel percentage and a forty six percent hard hit rate,

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<v Speaker 3>something I'm hyper focused on, especially impactful hitters. I'm always

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<v Speaker 3>going to look at barrel percentage and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>look at hard hit numbers because if you're barreling up

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, hitting that on that really good spot and

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<v Speaker 3>you've got good hard hit whether you are a poll

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<v Speaker 3>Happy or you're Paul Goldsmith type of contact hitter, good

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<v Speaker 3>things are gonna happen. So those are two really great recipes,

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<v Speaker 3>and it played itself out in Mark Vianto's last year.

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<v Speaker 3>My worries though almost a thirty percent k rate that

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<v Speaker 3>is paired with a forty percent with rate against any

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<v Speaker 3>forty plus percent against any non fastball, So fastballs he

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<v Speaker 3>did his work with. Everything else he struggled with, and

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<v Speaker 3>that goes with a thirty two percent chase rate. So

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<v Speaker 3>when teams are readjusting to him this year, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to probably see more breaking pitches. They're gonna want him

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<v Speaker 3>to chase because he's got a high chase rate, and

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<v Speaker 3>if it's not a fastball, he struggles. So that to

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<v Speaker 3>me mitigates maybe some of the batting average. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mitigate the power because I think it's pure, great raw power,

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<v Speaker 3>and those are the things that hold me back from saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a top fifty prospect, because guess what if

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<v Speaker 3>he dramatically improves on you know, his strikeout rate and

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<v Speaker 3>hits for a higher average, it's kind of like Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Alonso Like, maybe it's not as dramatic as of power,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's kind of Pete Alonzo ish. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>there is more up there, but I think there's some volatility.

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<v Speaker 3>Projections early Steamer projections two forty two with thirty two homers,

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<v Speaker 3>that's phenomenal. That's an easy top one hundred. Some might

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<v Speaker 3>even take him top fifty. But that's a huge dramatic

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<v Speaker 3>year over year change because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people were writing Vano's off last year because of the

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<v Speaker 3>Wiff issues, but he just turned really quality it bats

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<v Speaker 3>into big power and the projected number ce it carrying.

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<v Speaker 2>Over so just quickly because he's not on our list

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<v Speaker 2>for the followers. What does Vanto's establishing himself as like

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<v Speaker 2>the third basement of the future for the Mets? What

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<v Speaker 2>does that do to Brett Batty in your opinion in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of dynasty.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it really hurt. I think it makes

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<v Speaker 3>Brett Bady a trade target.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he'll get traded?

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a high possibility. But here's a caveat.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to throw it at you. Peter Alans a

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<v Speaker 3>free agent. If ped Alonso doesn't resign, Mark Vanto's is

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<v Speaker 3>the first basement of its future. Yeah, I personally kind

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<v Speaker 3>of think that's where they want v Into's long term.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not to say that ped Alans is not

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<v Speaker 3>going to resign. I think, no matter what Alonso resigns

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<v Speaker 3>or doesn't resign, I think Brett Batty is up as

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<v Speaker 3>a trade, you know, potential target. And let's say they

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<v Speaker 3>go and sign one Soto, They're not gonna do much

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<v Speaker 3>else in free agency, So what's the best course of action.

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<v Speaker 3>Take those prospect assets, go and take the Luisan Helicunyaz,

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<v Speaker 3>take the Brett Baties, Maybe take some of those young

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<v Speaker 3>pitchers Brennan Sprott or Blake Tidwell, and you know, make

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<v Speaker 3>some impactful trades to pair with a guy like Sodo

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<v Speaker 3>if they do that. So I think either way, Batty

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of on the way out.

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<v Speaker 2>Welsh, there was one name when you sent me this

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<v Speaker 2>list that I was kind of confused by. I raised

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<v Speaker 2>my eyebrows at Junior Cameronaro, Who's the next guy on

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<v Speaker 2>this list? And that was he was the biggest reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I wanted to ask kind of what the framework

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<v Speaker 2>of these players were where you're kind of looking at

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<v Speaker 2>what we saw last year versus the future. Because Caminara

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously a very highly touted prospect going into last season,

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<v Speaker 2>I drafted to stash him in a couple of re

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<v Speaker 2>draft leagues, and you know, it may or might not

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<v Speaker 2>have panned out in those leagues. Obviously, six on runs

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<v Speaker 2>two forty eight, two ninety nine, four twenty four slash

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<v Speaker 2>line in just forty three games at the big league level,

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<v Speaker 2>last year, only twenty one years old. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>we're giving up on him as a prospect anywhere anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Close to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was surprised to see him list it as

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<v Speaker 2>a riser because I thought he was pretty highly tatted

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<v Speaker 2>already comes in, didn't exactly set the world on fire,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you have him as one of your biggest risers.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you kind of explain that decision for us?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think this was like the toughest one. There

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<v Speaker 3>are multiple players we could have put in this, like

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<v Speaker 3>and not that I was trying to like theme out

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<v Speaker 3>any of the picks, you know, like let's have this

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<v Speaker 3>type of guy and this type of guy, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you do look and you go, Okay, Jackson Churio phenomenal

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<v Speaker 3>rookie year, let's go. But he was already ranked really high.

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson Merrill was Actually that would be a decent one

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<v Speaker 3>talked about on the Rejob Show. Would have been a

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<v Speaker 3>decent one to do as well. Jackson Holiday probably could

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<v Speaker 3>have almost been in one of those fallers, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think he kind of maintained So here's the reason I

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<v Speaker 3>decided to do it. So I do think that Camonaro

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part held you know, relative to last year,

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe he was he actually might have been as

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<v Speaker 3>high as he is ranked right now. I think in

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<v Speaker 3>season he really really fell off, you know, he just

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<v Speaker 3>kept not getting called up. I think there's the injury.

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<v Speaker 3>He came up. He was decent in his time. Why

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<v Speaker 3>I think I decided to do this was two things.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's firmly established in his rank range right

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<v Speaker 3>now without question. So I think the I have him

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fourth in Dynasty. So that is a two round player,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you're playing in twelve team or fifteen team. But

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<v Speaker 3>it is affirmed. It's not like, hey, we're putting like

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<v Speaker 3>last year, we're putting Jackson Holliday up in the top

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five and then they fall. I think those guys

0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.040
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of wiggle room. The second was this,

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<v Speaker 3>of all the players that we're talking about here, specifically

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<v Speaker 3>the risers and the major league guys, I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>Camon Arrow's difference between his redraft and Dynasty value is

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<v Speaker 3>the most dramatic. Give me Jackson Churio redraft in Dynasty close,

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson Merrill close. You keep kind of going through the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Jackson Holiday would have been a little bit different

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<v Speaker 3>as well. But I think there's a pretty big dramatic

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<v Speaker 3>change between the redraft of Kemenaro this year and what

0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.719
<v Speaker 3>his dynasty value is, which could throw people off. And

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<v Speaker 3>the key points that I really wanted to focus because

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to talk about him. I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>love barrel percentage and hard hit percentage. Bam eleven point

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent barrel percentage with a forty five percent hard

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<v Speaker 3>hit rate. He did in his rookie year, which you

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<v Speaker 3>said it wasn't really great, came up late, it was okay,

0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.800
<v Speaker 3>hit two forty two, didn't you know, knock anybody socks off.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody didn't get crazily excited. I love that elite bat

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.920
<v Speaker 3>speed seventy seven point two mile per hour bat speed

0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.360
<v Speaker 3>league averages around seventy two. That's at the tippy top

0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.640
<v Speaker 3>of the league. An incredibly great bat speed while he

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.520
<v Speaker 3>barrels and hits the ball hard projections. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>Steamer projections on him this season. Twenty nine homers with

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<v Speaker 3>the two sixty two batting average, five stolen bases and

0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.399
<v Speaker 3>ninety RBIs almost thirty homers off of that initial season,

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 3>that yet rookie season that you saw you take some

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<v Speaker 3>of the underlying stuff. With a massively boosted batting average

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and huge hard hit and bat speed, I really think

0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 3>he's established himself here. I will say this, I am

0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.640
<v Speaker 3>worried about the batting average in general, chase rate thirty

0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.359
<v Speaker 3>five percent chase rate with a forty two percent breaking

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 3>ball with rate, so he is going to get hit

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.960
<v Speaker 3>with probably more sliders early on people pitching probably from

0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 3>behind on him, not trying to challenge him with fastballs,

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 3>and I am a little bit worried he could get

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of himself. But I think in general, my main

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<v Speaker 3>point to this is there's a pretty big difference between

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<v Speaker 3>Redraft and his dynasty value, even though year over year

0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.159
<v Speaker 3>dynasty values closer. I think it was really important to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about him because I feel like we got more

0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 3>answers of the important rookies last year. Even in holidays

0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 3>struggles and Sureio and Paul schemes, We're going to talk

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:52.800
<v Speaker 3>about all those guys. I feel like we got all

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.880
<v Speaker 3>the answers of the important prospects we didn't, we got more.

0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.119
<v Speaker 3>I think we have more clarity and Dylan Cruz with

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<v Speaker 3>what we saw last year than what we actually got

0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.320
<v Speaker 3>out with Junior Camenaro, and I just I thought felt

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<v Speaker 3>it's important to reaffirm like his status as an elite

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 3>future power bat and we just got to pay attention

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.960
<v Speaker 3>to what that chase rate and with the batting average goes.

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 3>But twenty four in Dynasty for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a startup in a vacuum, you are taking

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<v Speaker 2>him in what rounds?

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<v Speaker 3>Second round? Yeah, I'm taking him in the second round. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, like, I tend to be more of

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<v Speaker 3>a win now type of guy, so I'm okay with

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:30.120
<v Speaker 3>pushing like Hosi Ramirez, Mookie Bets. Those guys are the

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 3>real dicey guys early on in uh in dynasties right now,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like the thirty one thirty two where Mooki

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.360
<v Speaker 3>and Ramirez and Judge would be like what top six

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 3>seven picks in a redraft, those guys can get pushed

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<v Speaker 3>to the second. So for me personally, like if Jose

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<v Speaker 3>Ramirez fell to like the middle of the second I

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<v Speaker 3>want to win now, I probably would wouldn't not probably,

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<v Speaker 3>I definitively would not be able to pass him up

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<v Speaker 3>to win now. So that's why he could fall off

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<v Speaker 3>of my radar a tiny bit. But if I was

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<v Speaker 3>more focused on young or I had these wheel picks

0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 3>JUNI Camerenero is a massive target because he's super young.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the power is going to get there. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit worried about his transition of like

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 3>what the batting average is going to be in him

0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.359
<v Speaker 3>improving his chase rate. But he was an elite hitter

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<v Speaker 3>in the minor league. You just wish he stole more.

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.600
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of it's kind of many Machado wish there's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of Manny Machado in him.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to a number two on the risers list.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy I love was not confused to see included here.

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<v Speaker 2>James Would nine home runs, fourteen stolen bases in seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine games last year, two sixty four average, seven to

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one ops. Just recently turned twenty two. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he is going to be a fantasy monster for a

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<v Speaker 2>long long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely agree. And he was one of those dudes last

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<v Speaker 3>year where it was just like, you know, maybe he's

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 3>eight nine in prospects, you know, floated up to the top,

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 3>and then he just had this monstrous start to the

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<v Speaker 3>season and then he gets called up and there's really

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 3>everything that you wanted from him nine homer's, fourteen stolen

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.960
<v Speaker 3>bases and just under three hundred at bats. Love that

0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 3>he hit for average and his expected batting average was

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.399
<v Speaker 3>higher than his actual batting average two sixty four to

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 3>two sixty nine batting to XBA, which you love already.

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<v Speaker 3>He's putting up upper tier barrel numbers again. Like the

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 3>theme for me is if I get that pairing of

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 3>like double digit barrel percentage with really good hard hit numbers,

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.639
<v Speaker 3>I love it well. Ten percent barrel rate in his

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 3>rookie year, fifty two percent hard hit rate, absolute monster

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 3>launch angle was low like some rookies. It's actually very

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 3>reminiscent of Vladimir Guerrero Junior. He did kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing barrel hard hit in his first couple of years,

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 3>and he'd have like a five degree launch angle.

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly as an ass James would a two point

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 2>four degree launch angle. He just hit the ball on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground so much.

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a total it's like very uncoard common. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not uncommon, it's a very common, like rookie trait of

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<v Speaker 3>you know guys that are selling out to really like

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<v Speaker 3>hit well. And that's like the thing that I loved

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<v Speaker 3>about him in the miners, he did the same thing

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 3>hits lefties. You know, he's a big lefty, lefty righty.

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't have like a lefty righty split, which is incredible.

0:22:58.200 --> 0:22:59.880
<v Speaker 3>So this is one of those guys that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think is trying to sell out for power. Like I

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 3>will tell you, I think Junior Camerinaro does like just ginormous,

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 3>crazy fast bat speed that is just generating these big homers.

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 3>James Wood was letting things come to him, and you

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 3>know that's what I think. Sometimes you hit kind of

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 3>across your body and it's like double's power. But that

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 3>barrel and hard hit percentage when that fixes is going

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 3>to look elite. Now, his K percentage has to come down,

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 3>but a very encouraging number. Twenty one percent chase rate,

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 3>one of the lowest in the league. I mean, it

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.679
<v Speaker 3>didn't qualify because he didn't play enough, but you know,

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty one percent chase rate when I just told you

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 3>the chase rate in the smallest sample size for Junia

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Cammeraro was thirty five percent. So you know, like there

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 3>are some warning signs that people will be like, well,

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 3>you know you didn't hit as much power as I thought,

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 3>and he had some high strikeout rate, launch angle fix,

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 3>great hard hit numbers, low chase rate. That makes me

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 3>feel phenomenal and where he was probably floating between I

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know, seventy eighty ninety, maybe the Roman Anthony range

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 3>last year. He's twenty three and maybe pushes into the

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.159
<v Speaker 3>top twenty right now in Dynasty. He's another one of

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 3>those guys that it's like, you can build this great

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.479
<v Speaker 3>young core. I think he's created some great baseline traits

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 3>for himself that is going to continue to get great,

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>and don't be surprised when you get a thirty thirty

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 3>season out of James Wood in the next year or two.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's in play and that's why he's a top

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 3>two round player.

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 2>He was basically on pace for a twenty thirty season

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 2>as a rookie with a two sixty four average. Just

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>turned twenty two. I mean, I yeah, like this guy

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>is the limit for for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Truthfully, I don't think you can put a ceiling on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of guys who don't have a ceiling, Number One,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Skean's surprising nobody, or at least it shouldn't just

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>a beast of a rookie season, I mean an incredible

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>rookie race in the National League. This year Paul Skeens

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 2>does end up winning Rookie of the Year in that league.

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 2>You always it was one of the seasons where you

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 2>wish you could just give this both rookie awards to

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>National League guys and have the al skip out a

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<v Speaker 2>year because of how strong it was in the senior circuit.

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>But yes, Skians hundred thirty three innings, one C nine

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to five, whip, one hundred and seventy strikeouts, I mean,

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty two years old, is as a rookie, you know,

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 2>less than a year removed from being the number one

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>overall pick in the draft, one of the best pictures

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>prospects to come into baseball in a long time, and

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>lived up to the height immediately. There was absolutely no

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 2>adjustment period necessary, just a monster. So really, we don't

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>need to sit here and give this effusive praise for Skins,

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 2>because anybody listening to this show is well aware of

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>how good Paul Skins is. So I want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you this and frame it as if in a dynasty startup,

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<v Speaker 2>how many names. Obviously you're not taking any pictures ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of him, unless you want to correct me, I can't

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>imagine you would. But how many hitters are you taking

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<v Speaker 2>before Paul Skeens is getting drafted?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a it's a good question, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>the main point, just to reiterate of bringing him up

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 3>is to say he's the US. He's almost the unquestioned

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 3>redraft starting pitcher. I think some people are a little

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 3>dicey because to pay a higher price for schemes over

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>like Schooble doesn't make sense to some people. It's not

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 3>close in dynasty. To answer your question, I have schemes

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 3>at twelve, so that would be eleven hitters that are

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 3>over him. Or if you want to be sneaky about it,

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 3>you know sho hail Tani to a player, so you know,

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe there is a picture above. Yeah, here's the only

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.640
<v Speaker 3>thing that holds him back. Because based on what you

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<v Speaker 3>saw with Paul Skeins, you could argue he's like top

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 3>three or four, and like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could argue, I wouldn't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>It can't argue don't do the one number one overall

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't.

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Think you can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You I was going to say, you could make an

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>argument I would disagree with that argument. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>could make the argument if you think that the gap

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<v Speaker 2>between him and other pictures for the next decade is

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<v Speaker 2>as wide as it could be, I think you can

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<v Speaker 2>make the case. I would not unequivocally I would not

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>take him number one in a Dynasty startup.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 3>For a level of dominance.

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I would listen to an argument, and then I would

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>reject the argument.

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<v Speaker 3>So here is the problem with all of those is

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 3>fun accolades. He's a picture, and that's ultimately the problem.

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Why he can't he isn't higher. You could be like,

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 3>how can you have him at ten? Soon? Show has

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 3>him at seven? Great? He's a pitcher in Dynasty. Like,

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>the one thing you don't really want to do, especially

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 3>if you are a young team, is build into pitching

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 3>in Dynasty. I would also say, in a general sense,

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 3>until you are closer or heavily competing, you just don't

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 3>want to be weighted so heavy on pitching. Now, if

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 3>you were to take Paul Skeen's, great, you're locked down

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>for a really long time. He's a phenomenal pitcher. I

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 3>mean tenth best War of all pitchers this past year

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty pitchers. Oh this is the number.

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 3>I didn't coherently write this, but of one hundred and

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty pitchers with one hundred or more innings pitch this

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 3>past year, Skeen said the lowest RA of one hundred

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 3>or more innings pitch, one hundred and twenty pitchers lowest era,

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 3>and he also made great strides. That sinker turned into

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 3>what they call the splinker. It's just like a hard

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 3>sinker that he throws throws in between like a split finger.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 3>It had the second best whiff rate amongst starting pitchers.

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Only Crochet was higher, and it was almost thirty percent

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 3>and had a twenty percent k rate on it, which

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 3>was top ten among starters. Because the point is is

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 3>like sinkers don't induce strikeouts, which is insane and Steamer

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 3>projections for this year check this out. He is number

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 3>one projected in strikeouts this year off of his rookie year.

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 3>There's no other picture. He is the highest strikeout projected.

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 3>He also had the best ERA of every single one

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 3>of those two hundred plus strikeout pitchers, fifth best k

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 3>per nine and second highest war projected to Jacob deGrom,

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 3>which is hilarious. But the thing you need to know

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 3>is Paul Skeins is the unquestioned first round type of

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 3>talent starting pitcher, but ultimately he is a starting pitcher.

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>So when you ask me that question coming back, how

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 3>many hitters would I take above him, it is ten

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 3>because I don't personally from a startup, want to build

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>around a starting pitcher. I could see a scenario where

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 3>I think buying pitching in dynasty is a lot tougher

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 3>than people make it out to be. I think some

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 3>dynasty people are like, oh, you just don't worry about it,

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>and you just build all your hitting and then right

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 3>at the end you can get your pitching now. It

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 3>doesn't work like that. Every dynasty I've ever played, people

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 3>are hoarding their pitching. You could draft schemes and then

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>knowing values drop a little bit if you go and

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 3>get you know, a Jose Ramirez or you get a

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 3>first round talent and then you build around some more

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 3>win now type of players. I think that's a better approach.

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 3>That's how I would do it. I wouldn't want to

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 3>be drafting Paul Skins and then James Wood and Da

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 3>da da. I think the risk is too great. This

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 3>is also one of the highest velocity fastball pitchers out there.

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 3>You gotta he was pitched like a gajillion innings in college.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 3>We worry about that and the usage that's on him.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 3>So ultimately this is back to that, like pitching prospect

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 3>wanting to be heavily invested in pitchers, which I don't,

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 3>but it's just not remotely close. He's the unquestioned top

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>starting pitcher. He was already high last year. But he's

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 3>the only guy that has deserved in redraft or dynasty

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 3>to be even considered in the first round with age

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 3>due to absolute dominant students fricking second in the cy

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 3>young It's not even remotely close. He is a unicorn

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 3>of unicorns of starting pitchers, So you could do that

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>points league. This is a little bit different conversation, but

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 3>ultimately a pitching prospect is really tough for me to

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 3>put inside the top ten with the volatility.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>The case for Skins going as high as youever you

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>want to make it is that he's an outlier, which

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>he may very well be. I mean, just as dominant

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>as he was as a rookie.

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 3>A unicorn argument.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>You just don't see this.

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Having said that, I mean, I think back to where

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 2>was Strider going in startups a year ago, and he's

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 2>like three years older than Skeins is now. But like,

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you couldn't have been more excited about a pitcher basically

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>than Strider, And now.

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>That value falls away because of the injury.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>So not that it's entirely gone, but obviously it looks

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot different now. So I mean, we'll put a

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>bow on it just as a fun exercise. If I

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the baseball gods came down and said to you, Chris Welsh,

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Paul Skeins is guaranteed health for his career. Everybody's guaranteed.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>How injuries are a thing of the past now in baseball?

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Is he number one for you then or still not?

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's number one, but he's like three

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 3>if you guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>Me with like a kunya because injuries are gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Oani, even though Tana is thirty, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable with Tani is the number one over on Dynasty

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 3>because he starts pitching again and it's I know, it's

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 3>like a dicey conversation, Wit, I have a heart. I

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 3>don't think I could take Skemes over.

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<v Speaker 2>Wit.

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<v Speaker 3>Things start to open up a little bit between Akunya

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Soto Gunner Ellie, like if I got two hundred and

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 3>fifty strikeouts for ten if you said ten years of health,

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>and then it's gonna open up after ten years, maybe

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 3>it is number one ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be though.

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna hold down your whole rotation.

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0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>as you and I are wanted to do together. We

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>went a little long on the risers, so go a

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>little quicker on the followers. People also have less interest

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>in the negative side of things. We had fun with

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the positive. We'll bring it down a bit on the

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 2>negative number five Mike Trout super negative one emotionally, just

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>because it's sadder and sadder every year to see him

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>not be able to stay healthy. Fantastic start to twenty

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty four, low batting average, but ten home runs in

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine games. Injured again, of course, missing the rest

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>of the year. Thirty three years old now and hasn't

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>been truly healthy in what a half decade. So I

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>assume age and injury is really the only thing going

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<v Speaker 2>into this, you know, having him listed here as a foller.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty simplistic to that. I mean, he's thirty

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 3>three years old. He clearly cannot be healthy, and that's

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 3>the big thing. And I want to preface this, this

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.479
<v Speaker 3>is kind of a me one too. I think there

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>are other people good for them smartly have kind of

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 3>moved off of the Mike Trout you know, realm sooner.

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I am a little injury agnostic where I just want

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 3>to give benefits of the doubt, and I want to

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 3>give benefits of the doubt. And here's my biggest struggle

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 3>with a player is when a player is an incredibly awesome,

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 3>unique talent, every moment they're on the field and then

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 3>they get hurt. Jacob de Gram is another one of those.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Jagram's a little different now because he's thirty six years old,

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 3>but Trout is in that range now. I have continuously

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 3>given him that pass, but I think it is more

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>than been proven these degenerative issues, he cannot stay healthy

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 3>and the team gets worse around him. You also saw,

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>as good as he was, you saw some decline's massive

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>hard hit decline this past year forty one percent. It

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 3>was a I guess of his entire career as a

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 3>third lowesst that he's ever seen. He was striking out

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 3>quite a bit less, which is definitely a positive, but

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 3>he was worse against fastballs, which is not something you

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 3>want to see. And you just wonder if there's more

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 3>of the I don't know, like a patient hitter that's

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 3>in there, that's not going to put up these big

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 3>impactful numbers. And his age goes on, these guys are

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 3>going to lose, just deteriorate a little bit. And it's

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 3>like if you take away the big power from Mike

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Trout and he doesn't have forty home run potential and

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>now he's a thirty home run high batting average like

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 3>he's got bad players around him, so it's like, can

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 3>you project eighty five? Eighty five with thirty something Homers

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 3>doesn't steal a whole lot. I know he did steal

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more this year. He's still six, but

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 3>there's not much stolen base potential, and he hits for

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 3>higher batting average. Listen, that's third round, but that's a

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 3>pipe dream because he can't stay healthy. He's never on

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 3>the field. So all of those things combined. I held

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 3>out hope last year, held out a little bit of

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 3>hope and redraft I was right for a month, held

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 3>out some hope and dynasty that. Oh he's still top

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.959
<v Speaker 3>seventy five. Look at it's outside the top one hundred.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the big key. I think some people

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 3>are going to smash him into the two hundreds. I

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 3>think if you are a win now team.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Would you trade for him? If you're a win now team,

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>not even thinking the startup, but would you trade for

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>for cheap?

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>For cheap? I would be comfortable doing it if it

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 3>was for cheap. But I think his name value this

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 3>might be the first year the name value really tanked.

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Like the name value was always there and people can

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.959
<v Speaker 3>make arguments that might be gone. So maybe I would

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 3>be a little bit more likely, but it's outside the

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 3>top one hundred. But if your win, now, I think

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 3>it's hard like outside of that, if he's just floating

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 3>around there, like go get that outfield. He's in a

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 3>DH maybe he does stay a little bit healthier. That

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 3>was the Byron Buxton argument. But we know he's going

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 3>to hit the el. But the big change is that

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I think everybody uniformed, everybody collectively got together and came

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 3>off of Mike Trout. In his dynasty value, it is

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 3>post one hundred in a dynasty draft, probably post one fifty.

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, next up.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Luis Castillo turns thirty two next month. He made thirty

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>starts in twenty twenty four when eleven and twelve one

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>to seventy five and a third inning one hundred and

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>seventy five strikeouts, so almost exactly identical there three sixty

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>four ERA just a one oh one ERA plus so

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>just barely above average in that metric, and a one

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to seventeen whip. That's his worst since twenty twenty one.

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Is Castillo an age related foller?

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well it's twofold, it's age thirty two year old

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 3>picture that doesn't feel real great, and that's paired with

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 3>VLO decrease and those two things don't don't work super well.

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Now it's changed before. I think Verlander went through this

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 3>and kind of readjusted his career and refound himself. So

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that that. I really don't think like

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these guys are these damning like they

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 3>can never come back and never improve and you have

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 3>to fade these guys Like No, I think it's just

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 3>the value changes. I will be frank. I think there's

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 3>multiple pictures I could have chosen from. I was picking

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 3>between them, so a younger guy and Zach Gallon that

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I think his value has changed. Logan Webb has come down,

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Nola has come down, but specifically Castillo hitting that

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 3>thirty two year old marker having you know, arguably is

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 3>still a good season, but like one of the worst seasons.

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 3>It's the second worst expected ERA that he has had

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 3>in his entire career, three straight years of an ERA

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>increase as well, and on top of it, the whiff numbers,

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 3>So the VILO went down, but the whiff numbers decreased

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 3>across the board, almost across the entire board of all

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 3>of his pitch types. So you had his fastball going

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 3>down about a mile per hour. I think a slider

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 3>did as well, and with decreases with the age, I

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 3>don't love it. And he went from a guy that,

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 3>regardless of the age, was probably top thirty five, top

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 3>forty last year and he is pushing outside the top

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 3>eighty and frankly, pinning the type of rotation you're putting together,

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 3>you might be better set with a Brandon Fott. I

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 3>think Uri Perez, even coming off of his surgery at

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>his age, is a better long term investment to me,

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 3>and Luis Castillo's value is in the team that I

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 3>am pushing back some of these young players and I'm

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 3>trying to win.

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 3>You can push him up, but I think there's some

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 3>bad trends in the wrong direction for Castillo.

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Luis Robert next on the list, still only twenty seven

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 2>years old. It's not an age related one here. Fourteen

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 2>home runs, twenty three stone bases in one hundred games.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty four, he hit a two twenty four,

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>two seventy eight, three seventy nine slash line ops plus

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven, which was the first time in his career

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 2>he was below one hundred, so below average. We went

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 2>into including Robert on this list.

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not black and white in everything that I do,

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 3>So when I tell you that a guy's fallen or

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 3>rose up, I don't think it's the be all end all.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a gray area in all of it

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>that guys can fix themselves and if there's a player

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 3>on the decrease that can improve themselves. So least Robert

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 3>age is in his favor, pretty big, productive years are

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 3>in his favor. But last year it was such a stark,

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 3>scary reminder of how bad it can be. And maybe

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 3>you chalk it up to like you're playing on one

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 3>of the worst teams of all time, you're not invested.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 3>He was injured, he was playing out here in the

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 3>I saw him multiple times playing in Complex League. You know,

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 3>his friends were gone, Eloy was traded. Mancata was a disaster.

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Like I think there's a personal element of it. Maybe

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 3>he just wasn't interested because it didn't seem like it,

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 3>But the stats tell that story full on thirty three

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 3>percent k rate, that's the worst. Barrel percentage dropped to

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 3>nine percent, which was the lowest of his career, but

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 3>he had a career worst five point nine barrels per

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 3>plate appearance. That's like, I think the lowest before that

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 3>was like seven point one bottom six percent dole of

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 3>the league in expected batting average of two ten. Even worse,

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 3>his hard hit rate crash to forty point seven percent,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 3>which was the second worst of his career, and that

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 3>was a two percent decrease year over year. Those trends

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 3>all combined are scary and bad. Could he fix it? Sure?

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 3>If he is more motivated. Projections actually tell the story

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 3>that he will. They see a bounce back two forty

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 3>with a twenty eight twenty eight season. Why is that, though,

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 3>because projections usually will work off of modeled three year performances,

0:39:57.880 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 3>and if you take the three years, there's some big

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 3>performance in there. But I think what we saw out

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 3>of Robert last year scares the hell out of me.

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 3>So I had him massively high talent is unquestioned, top

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 3>twenty five, top twenty. I think I had him last year.

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:15.919
<v Speaker 3>I'd knocked him out of the top seventy five because

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 3>these things worry the ever living crap out of me.

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 3>For Dynasty to have that investment, if he fixes it

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 3>going to try to quickly make a turn. But I

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 3>think these trends are going in a really bad direction.

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 2>And you could hardly blame him if it was any

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of just mental burden of playing for that White

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Sox team, like anybody.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 3>And I acknowledge that, like that might be part of it,

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 3>and that might be why he's maybe a bye. He

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe he's a sneaky bye if everyone is off of him.

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Another older pitcher, Garrett Cole, only made seventeen starts, obviously,

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>after he missed the start of the season in twenty

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty four. It's the first time he said fewer than

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.720
<v Speaker 2>thirty starts in a season since twenty sixteen, not including

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the COVID shortened twenty twenty season. Thirty four years old, obviously,

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 2>he went eight and five for the Yankees, three forty

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>one ERA ninety nine strikeouts in ninety five innings pitched. Again,

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 2>is this an injury slash age related one for a

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>guy who's been a regular first rounder in READJAFT leagues

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>for a long time.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like some of these guys, I think again, there

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 3>are people that are maybe different or treat some of

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 3>these things different. I will give benefit of the doubt

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 3>for super talented players. Age means sometimes a little bit

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 3>less to me in dynasty than other people. You know,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 3>if you're like thirty two, people are putting them outside

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>the top one hundred. I want to win now, and

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I want those talented players. But Garrett Cole is showing

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 3>some pretty concerning signs. Five straight years of declining K percentage,

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 3>which is down to twenty five percent, while his walk

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 3>percentage dupped up to seventy seven point four percent. Those

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 3>combine if you ever pay attention to K minus walk percentage,

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 3>that's not good. That's not good. That walk percentage, by

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 3>the way, was the second highest of his career. He's

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 3>expected era has risen four straight years, and like we

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 3>talked about with Castillo, Velo declines he had about a

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 3>full mile per hour on his fastball and slider go

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>back down at thirty four years old. I don't like

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 3>those trends. He's still a talented play He's still got

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 3>things done, but it's not coming at the same velocity

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 3>or impact of what it was before. And as you

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 3>get older, you know, either there's kind of that like

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 3>do you adjust to be from a power pitcher to

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 3>a kind of maybe I'll call it like a finesse

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 3>type of picture, and I just don't think that's there,

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 3>and it's adjusted and again year over year. Garrett Cole,

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 3>regardless of age, I think, was still seen as a

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 3>top two to three sp in Dynasty. He is not

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 3>there right now in Dynasty. I've got him right around fifty.

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 3>And that might even be being a little bit generous,

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 3>because if those declines continue to grow, it's gonna get

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna have like a dramatic punch to what his

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:40.879
<v Speaker 3>value really is. And I wouldn't be shocked if he's

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 3>like outside the top seventy five here come next season. Frankly,

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 3>if if it was Luis Castillo at like eighty or

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Garrett Cole at fifty, think I might even want Luis Castillo.

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I think those guys are closer now where I just

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 3>don't think they were before.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Last foller here. I was a little surprised by this one.

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Corey Seeger thirty years old at home runs in one

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty three games, So obviously he didn't play

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the entire season. He had some injury stuff he was

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 2>dealing with two seventy eight, three, fifty three, five, twelve,

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>triple slash in twenty twenty four ops plus of one

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>forty five. So he was good when he was on

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the field, you know, particularly the power numbers. But obviously

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, a slightly shortened season. He's on the wrong

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>side of thirty. But it's not like he's in his

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 2>late thirties, So can he explain this one a little more?

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Well? His body, I think feels like it's just much

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 3>older from the early thirty eighth injuries. So he and

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I love Corey Seeger, like Corey Seeker's changed, and this

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 3>is part of the rank change. I had him in

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 3>the teams regardless of his age last year because you

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 3>see this guy just big, hard hit numbers, high batting

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 3>average over three hundred, one hundred thirty plus homers, hitting

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 3>three twenty or whatever, like that's what I love. But

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 3>he can't stay on the field, and we also saw

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 3>declines in some of the performance. So here's my biggest worry.

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>You're saying the wrong side of thirty, you're just gonna

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 3>be thirty one on April twenty seventh. He might not

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 3>be back until he's thirty one because he had sports

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 3>hernia surgery and they said he will likely be back

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 3>likely is a key term for the beginning of the year.

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 3>If there's no setback, and Corey Seeger is the Mike

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Trout of future run injuries. He has had tons of

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 3>injuries out there, So I am if I'm going to

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 3>be concerned about Mike Trout, I got to be concerned

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.240
<v Speaker 3>about a guy that has had a history of injuries

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 3>as well, that team offensively on the decline. You know,

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 3>also batting average had a little bit of a sink

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 3>right now. I think, you know, putting him at number

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 3>one makes it feel super dramatic, like Cory Schieger is

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 3>the biggest on No, it's just this is a guy

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 3>that I think you could have legitimately taken in the

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 3>second round of dynasty drafts that I don't think you

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.720
<v Speaker 3>should consider until the fourth round, and you are taking

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 3>some inherent risk with injuries. So there's a theme to

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these. Outside of Robert, who I think

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 3>is dramatically performance based, it's looking for age to injury

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 3>concerns that might have other little like velocity things and

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 3>having a major sports hernia surgery really concerns me about

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Corey Seeger. I need those games out there. I think

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 3>you're just taking on some more inherent risk if you're

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 3>taking him inside the top definitely the top three rounds.

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's go very quickly through our all

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Dynasty Risers team. This is a team you put together.

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of them that I'll highlight where I

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 2>might have gone in a different direction.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>So just very quick on each of these catcher.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Who you got cal Raley cal I thought the catcher

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 3>was actually really difficult because most of the catchers kind.

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Of like totally did not. I was like looking at

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 2>was like, is there a better one than cal Rally?

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 2>And there really wasn't.

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 3>You want to know, Samuel Bissio was like one of

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 3>the higher ones I had, but I'm not going to

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 3>put him on there. But cal Rally changed his value

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 3>by becoming a better hitter, big impactful power. Cal Rally

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 3>is definitely the guy at catcher. First base, Mark Vianto's

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I think he belongs as one of the highest first

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 3>base risers in the in the land. Second base, this

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 3>one I wanted to talk about him in this. I'm

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 3>glad we got to put him here. Kudel Marte, this

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 3>is an over thirty guy that I put on here,

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 3>So don't be like, hey, well you so you like

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 3>to win now, but there's no older guys thirty one

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 3>years old. But guess what, kuld tell Mary became a

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 3>fixture at second base, arguably one of the top second

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 3>basemen to be drafted for next season. MVP candidate. He's

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.439
<v Speaker 3>a core hitter, did everything, hits the ball, still hard

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 3>and more consistent now. Kutel Marte definitely rose up in

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 3>dynasty ranks this year.

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 2>You've got Junior Camonaro a third We already talked about him.

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 2>How about shortstop.

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Zach Netto would have been a player I would have

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 3>loved to have talked about. The only caveat that's holding

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 3>me back. He had an injury and he might miss

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of this the beginning of the season.

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 3>But Neto was one of those dudes. Power stolen based

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 3>combo twenty thirty could be a twenty forty guy in

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 3>the near future. Became a huge impact bat at the

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 3>top of the Angels lineup. And I had this dynasty

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 3>debate at the end of the year. A guy was

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 3>trying to trade me Robert and he wanted Netto, and

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 3>I was like, dude, I got Netto over Robert in

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Dynasty now, so zach Netto is around a top fifty

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.760
<v Speaker 3>to sixty fantasy player even regardless of the injury.

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>This is the position that I wanted to bring up

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.359
<v Speaker 2>somebody else, And maybe the guy I'm about to bring

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 2>up is a year away from being on this list

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>because he's a very young minor leaguer and you actually

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 2>already mentioned him earlier, and I was glad you did.

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even sure if I pronounce it right, Leotlise Devri.

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Is that the correct way to pronounce the Leo divrees.

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Leo Delis, Leo Dallas, Leodahas.

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's one of those names are you only ever

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 2>really read instead of here said out loud?

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>But Leo devrees.

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>So I think he's going to be a top five

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.720
<v Speaker 2>prospect in baseball at some point in his minor league career.

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm over the moon about him as a prospect in Dynasty.

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Obviously a couple of years away, but I felt like

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 2>he really broke out in a way where he went

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 2>from Oh, that's an interesting flyer to have in some

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 2>deep Dynasty teams too. This is a priority prospect for me,

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.240
<v Speaker 2>in any sort of prospect slot that I can afford

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 2>to sit on it for a couple of years, so

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to bring him up.

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I completely agree. It just saw he just played

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 3>in the Arizona Fall League. One of the youngest. He

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 3>was the third youngest to ever hit a homer in

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:49.720
<v Speaker 3>the Fall League, behind only Ethan Sallace and Bryce Harper.

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 3>He's a phenomenal bat. I really like switch hitter like

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 3>he's got a smooth, smooth bat, better than Ethan Solace's.

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 3>I agree with everything he's saying. He's already a he'

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 3>said the sixth prospect on my prospect list, So he's

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 3>already like their dynasty. He is just two years away.

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I work in three year windows, but he is a

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 3>guy that's valued right around that like one hundred to

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 3>one twenty five range. So I do agree he will

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 3>be a guy we're probably talking about next year.

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I forgot to mention I was gonna mention,

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 2>and you have Cameron Aar obviously at third. I think

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>you can make a case of third in my opinion.

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 2>For Jordan Westburg, we haven't talked about enough Orioles on

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 2>this show. Sure I did not have him that highly

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 2>ranked diacet. I thought he was gonna be He's a

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 2>really solid player. I love having him on my team

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 2>as an Orioles fan. I was more impressed than I

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 2>expected to be with his consistency month a month in

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 2>terms of better power than I expected from him. Obviously,

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>he only had eighteen home runs because he missed some

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 2>time with a broken wrist. I think it was when

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:45.479
<v Speaker 2>he got hit on the hand or something on a pitch,

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 2>so that those numbers look a little diminished. But I

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 2>was really impressed with Westburg, and my estimation of him

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>in Fantasy grew a lot last year, so I did

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 2>mean to mention him.

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:56.959
<v Speaker 3>I would have if we if the All Rise team

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 3>was to not include any of the players we talked about,

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 3>which maybe we should, Westburg would have been the third base.

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I was really impressed in this year.

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Matt outfield, James Wood and Roman Anthony are two of

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the names. Again, we've already talked about them. Who's the

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 2>third outfielder you have?

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, I kind of prefaced it when we were talking earlier.

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Jackson Merril, Like Jackson Merril does deserve the huge bump

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 3>year over year, And you know, I literally probably didn't

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:21.359
<v Speaker 3>mention him because we did it in another show. But

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.840
<v Speaker 3>from a Dynasty perspective, Jackson Merrill one of the biggest

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 3>risers in value year over year. He's a twenty twenty guy.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 3>His power projection and steamer is actually higher than what

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 3>he did. So people are banking on that great outfielder

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 3>that's going to continue to stay out. They're really good average,

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 3>and he is, you know, arguably probably top thirty five.

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 3>He's a second to third round Dynasty if maybe not

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 3>second round player. Maybe his offensive impact is less than

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 3>like James Wood in Cheerio, but it's right there. So

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 3>he's going to join Wood in Anthony for our all

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 3>outfield riser Dynasty team.

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a great call too. Paul skeens obviously at

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 2>starting pitcher and then wrap us up with relief.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Pitcher Mason Miller. Maybe it's a little bit, but you know,

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 3>closers are really difficult for people in Dynasty to figure

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 3>out how to value them and what to do a lot.

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Hater was a huge failure last year. The

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.320
<v Speaker 3>only one that really paid off for the high cost

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.359
<v Speaker 3>anyone would have done in Dynasty is a manual class

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 3>guy almost you know, he was in the Cy Young contention,

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 3>so that I think is the tippy top. But Mason

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Miller is if you were going to invest, my little

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 3>strategy probably don't draft a closer in any capacity inside

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 3>the top one hundred, whether you're competing or you know,

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:29.879
<v Speaker 3>you're kind of just trying to build out your dynasty team.

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Don't do it in the top one hundred. If you

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>were to invest, the two to invest are Emmanuel Classe

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 3>and Mason Miller. Mason Miller didn't come into last year

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 3>as a closer. He's still on the a's with puts

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 3>in question, but it's massive strikeout numbers. Guy's going to

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 3>strike out like one hundred every year. He's going to

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 3>save whatever viable games are out there, And in a

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 3>dynasty perspective, he might be the best bet of any closer. Frankly,

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 3>even over class A who's got a little bit of

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.240
<v Speaker 3>age on him, he might be the best bet of investment.

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 3>So the all rank risers, and probably the only closer

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 3>that would be worth making a real investment on is

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Mason Miller.

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 2>We'll wrap up there. Well, fun talk of baseball with you.

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 2>We talked football every week on Tuesdays with ericson but

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you know that you and I both have first loves

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>our baseball, so.

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what you and I are kind of

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 3>at the forefront of making sure and hopefully people see

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 3>this like we want more and more baseball here at

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Fantasy Pro Any.

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Or if we've ever credit for pushing for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, don't compliment Mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>He's my co host on the cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a course, he's a monster. But just letting

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<v Speaker 3>you guys know, the passion is here, whether it's Dynasty

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<v Speaker 3>or Redraft, and we got more for you than ever before.

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<v Speaker 3>So make sure you are checking out the YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 3>which probably already are right now. But if you're listening

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast YouTube dot com sash Fantasy Pros MLB,

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<v Speaker 3>more video content, more shorts than we've ever done in

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<v Speaker 3>the history of Fantasy Pros, and we're gonna keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be an awesome twenty twenty five and it's

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<v Speaker 2>already starting now. Also, I forgot to mention this, and

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<v Speaker 2>you reminded me before the show, so I apologize. Your

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<v Speaker 2>dynasty rankings are dropping December first, so for your Welsh

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<v Speaker 2>specific dynasty rankings, be sure everybody listening check out the

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<v Speaker 2>site to hear what he has to say and see

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<v Speaker 2>where he's got these guys actually ranked for your own

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<v Speaker 2>startups and or off season trades.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it, baby, check it out. I'll put an article

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<v Speaker 3>out and it'll be on the consensus ranks, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get all those bad boys cleaned up all the baseballs.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna click more baseballs around us. Glad to talk

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<v Speaker 3>some dynasty with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get there on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks everybody for tuning in. He's Chris Welschein and Ryan Warmly.

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