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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Baseball Podcast. I am Ryan Warmley,

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Speaker 2: joined by Chris Wels.

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Speaker 1: It is still in November.

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Speaker 2: We are very much in football mode right now, but

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Speaker 2: we are also thinking about baseball. We've had some awards

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Speaker 2: announcements coming out lately. We are just a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks away, Welsh from the Winter Meetings, which I have

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Speaker 2: very fond memories growing up as just one of the

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Speaker 2: most fun weeks of the year and just kind of

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Speaker 2: following all the twists and turns.

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Speaker 1: I remember there was one year of the Orioles.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Prince Fielder when I was in college,

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Speaker 2: and it was really exciting imagining, you know, all the

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Speaker 2: fun transactions we could see. So we are, you know,

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Speaker 2: not as far away as you might think from some

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Speaker 2: real fantasy baseball discussion. We are bringing you, folks, some

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Speaker 2: fantasy baseball podcasts in the offseason. Here kind of tied

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Speaker 2: us over before we really dive deep in January. You've

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Speaker 2: been doing a couple of these shows already well with

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Speaker 2: Joe Alrico some other short form videos, and we decided

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Speaker 2: to get you and me together here to talk about

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Speaker 2: some dynasty risers and Follers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm also baseball. We're in football mode, but I'm

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Speaker 3: always in baseball. Most people know, like the Arizona Fall

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Speaker 3: League just ended, so I'm dealing with this. This is

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Speaker 3: my seasonal depression because then baseball actually just ended for me.

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Speaker 3: But you know, from a dynasty perspective, watching a bunch

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Speaker 3: doing more baseball than we've ever done. And you know,

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Speaker 3: funny you mentioned the Winter meetings. In my previous life,

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Speaker 3: I had a job, a corporate job that the hotel

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Speaker 3: baseball players would go to, and they had the winter

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Speaker 3: meetings here in Arizona, and they would go at that

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Speaker 3: to say when I was at that company, and I remember,

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Speaker 3: you would if you went down, you would just see guys.

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Speaker 3: I remember Brian Wilson famously, the big bearded closer for

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Speaker 3: guess this wasn't Winter meetings, but it was one hundred

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Speaker 3: winter meetings, these guys all walking around felt very intimate

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Speaker 3: in that that you got to, I got to almost

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Speaker 3: be a part of it. But we're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: bunch of moves. All of this and the transactional changes

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Speaker 3: know what we say, it's only November and baseball is

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Speaker 3: still a little bit of ways. It's already going. Drafts

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Speaker 3: are going, NFBC is going. I'm excited to do it,

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Speaker 3: and I'm very excited to talk dynasty with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love dynasty.

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Speaker 2: This is the fantasy sport that I most enjoy, the

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Speaker 2: dynasty keeper league type of format. You know, I do

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Speaker 2: play in some of those for like college basketball even

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Speaker 2: but football obviously, but baseball is really where, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the prospects are just so much of a bigger part

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Speaker 2: of the experience of playing fantasy baseball than you know,

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Speaker 2: there's not minor leagues for football, right it's just college

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Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why this is the show.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to hop on with you.

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Speaker 2: I love talking through the long term value and risers

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Speaker 1: Sort of format.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive right in. We're gonna do risers. We'll go

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Speaker 2: Dynasty riser team. I thought that would be a fun,

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Speaker 1: Are you viewing these and these are the names you

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Speaker 2: Are you viewing them as guys who rose the most

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. So I view these as the

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Speaker 3: suggest if you have not played Dynasty like Worm is

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Speaker 3: saying you should, I think it brings life even more

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Speaker 3: to fantasy baseball, if ever you've been fringy about it.

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Speaker 3: But whether you're starting up or you want to understand

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Speaker 3: Jackson Cheerio. He was pretty good, right, but he only

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Speaker 3: to understand the values, and that'll be That's my approach

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Speaker 2: My best, just quickly, I don't know my best dynasty league.

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Speaker 2: It's more of like a deep keeper league. You keep fourteen,

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Speaker 2: So I am feeling darn good about that league. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I only play one redraft league a year. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I just I just really prefer it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's funny you say that because there's a

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Speaker 3: couple there's like the you know, you maybe played a

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Speaker 3: those teams that you've been working on. Mutual friend friend

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Speaker 3: of the show Scott White from CBS, He's got this

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Speaker 3: the long term Scott White Dynasty leagues that I took

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Speaker 3: over three or four years ago to twenty fourteen league.

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Speaker 3: I'm going into this year finally I drafted Paul Skeins,

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Speaker 3: I'm finally ready to compete and Skeens is kind of

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Speaker 3: that dynasty is very rewarding. But also seeing the fruits

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Speaker 3: look at those values. That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: We are going to get to some Paul Skeens discussion

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Speaker 2: later on, perhaps unsurprisingly, let's start off with a prospect though,

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Speaker 2: Roman Anthony in the Miners last season two ninety one,

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Speaker 3: For you, Welsh, So, I think that's like the big

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Speaker 3: can have guys some people have like Sebastian Walcott who's

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Speaker 3: Leo DeVries with the Padres just turned eighteen years old.

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Speaker 3: Those guys could be top fifty in some dynasty leagues,

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Speaker 3: those guys might not play for a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: So it's a different world. So with that, I also

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Speaker 3: maybe more than it's ever been in a singular year.

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Speaker 3: And what I mean is, I think you check ten

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Speaker 2: You know why, it's because there's finally not an obvious

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Speaker 2: it's clearly Jackson Holiday.

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Speaker 3: This year, we don't and you're looking for those big

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Speaker 3: we come to a player that rose dramatically in prospect

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Speaker 3: one prospect in baseball. It's Roman Anthony. So Roman Anthony

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Speaker 3: whether he is number one or he's inside my top five,

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Speaker 3: he's not my number one overall prospect. The guy hit

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Speaker 3: in double A. Projected Steamer numbers. Steamer numbers are already

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Speaker 3: eighteen homers, still twenty one bases. Both increases. He's increased,

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Speaker 3: you know, pretty much every year he's been playing. Steamer

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Speaker 3: has him for a light fifty ish games. But if

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Speaker 3: we were to take Steamer's projections, which are usually relatively

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Speaker 3: low on prospects, the one hundred and sixty two game

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Speaker 3: a quadrant of players that are in TRIPAA. They've got

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Speaker 3: And he's a super young triple A outfielder who does

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Speaker 2: Something like round five, round six in a startup, is

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Speaker 2: Let's go to some of our major league players here

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Speaker 2: Over so just quickly because he's not on our list

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it really hurt. I think it makes

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Speaker 3: answers of the important rookies last year. Even in holidays

434
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Speaker 3: struggles and Sureio and Paul schemes, We're going to talk

435
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Speaker 3: about all those guys. I feel like we got all

436
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 3: the answers of the important prospects we didn't, we got more.

437
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 3: I think we have more clarity and Dylan Cruz with

438
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Speaker 3: what we saw last year than what we actually got

439
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 3: out with Junior Camenaro, and I just I thought felt

440
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 3: it's important to reaffirm like his status as an elite

441
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 3: future power bat and we just got to pay attention

442
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 3: to what that chase rate and with the batting average goes.

443
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Speaker 3: But twenty four in Dynasty for me.

444
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Speaker 2: So in a startup in a vacuum, you are taking

445
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Speaker 2: him in what rounds?

446
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Speaker 3: Second round? Yeah, I'm taking him in the second round. Yeah.

447
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 3: I will say, like, I tend to be more of

448
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 3: a win now type of guy, so I'm okay with

449
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 3: pushing like Hosi Ramirez, Mookie Bets. Those guys are the

450
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 3: real dicey guys early on in uh in dynasties right now,

451
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Speaker 3: because it's like the thirty one thirty two where Mooki

452
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,360
Speaker 3: and Ramirez and Judge would be like what top six

453
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Speaker 3: seven picks in a redraft, those guys can get pushed

454
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Speaker 3: to the second. So for me personally, like if Jose

455
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Speaker 3: Ramirez fell to like the middle of the second I

456
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Speaker 3: want to win now, I probably would wouldn't not probably,

457
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: I definitively would not be able to pass him up

458
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: to win now. So that's why he could fall off

459
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Speaker 3: of my radar a tiny bit. But if I was

460
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Speaker 3: more focused on young or I had these wheel picks

461
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 3: JUNI Camerenero is a massive target because he's super young.

462
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: I think the power is going to get there. I'm

463
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 3: just a little bit worried about his transition of like

464
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: what the batting average is going to be in him

465
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: improving his chase rate. But he was an elite hitter

466
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Speaker 3: in the minor league. You just wish he stole more.

467
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: It's kind of it's kind of many Machado wish there's

468
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Speaker 3: a little bit of Manny Machado in him.

469
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Speaker 2: Let's get to a number two on the risers list.

470
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Speaker 2: A guy I love was not confused to see included here.

471
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Speaker 2: James Would nine home runs, fourteen stolen bases in seventy

472
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Speaker 2: nine games last year, two sixty four average, seven to

473
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Speaker 2: eighty one ops. Just recently turned twenty two. I think

474
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Speaker 2: he is going to be a fantasy monster for a

475
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Speaker 2: long long time.

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Speaker 3: Completely agree. And he was one of those dudes last

477
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Speaker 3: year where it was just like, you know, maybe he's

478
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Speaker 3: eight nine in prospects, you know, floated up to the top,

479
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: and then he just had this monstrous start to the

480
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: season and then he gets called up and there's really

481
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Speaker 3: everything that you wanted from him nine homer's, fourteen stolen

482
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Speaker 3: bases and just under three hundred at bats. Love that

483
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 3: he hit for average and his expected batting average was

484
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Speaker 3: higher than his actual batting average two sixty four to

485
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 3: two sixty nine batting to XBA, which you love already.

486
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: He's putting up upper tier barrel numbers again. Like the

487
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: theme for me is if I get that pairing of

488
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: like double digit barrel percentage with really good hard hit numbers,

489
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Speaker 3: I love it well. Ten percent barrel rate in his

490
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 3: rookie year, fifty two percent hard hit rate, absolute monster

491
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: launch angle was low like some rookies. It's actually very

492
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Speaker 3: reminiscent of Vladimir Guerrero Junior. He did kind of the

493
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 3: same thing barrel hard hit in his first couple of years,

494
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Speaker 3: and he'd have like a five degree launch angle.

495
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Speaker 2: That's exactly as an ass James would a two point

496
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: four degree launch angle. He just hit the ball on

497
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Speaker 2: the ground so much.

498
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Speaker 3: It's it's a total it's like very uncoard common. It's

499
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Speaker 3: not uncommon, it's a very common, like rookie trait of

500
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Speaker 3: you know guys that are selling out to really like

501
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Speaker 3: hit well. And that's like the thing that I loved

502
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Speaker 3: about him in the miners, he did the same thing

503
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: hits lefties. You know, he's a big lefty, lefty righty.

504
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 3: He doesn't have like a lefty righty split, which is incredible.

505
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 3: So this is one of those guys that I don't

506
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Speaker 3: think is trying to sell out for power. Like I

507
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: will tell you, I think Junior Camerinaro does like just ginormous,

508
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: crazy fast bat speed that is just generating these big homers.

509
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: James Wood was letting things come to him, and you

510
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: know that's what I think. Sometimes you hit kind of

511
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: across your body and it's like double's power. But that

512
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: barrel and hard hit percentage when that fixes is going

513
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 3: to look elite. Now, his K percentage has to come down,

514
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: but a very encouraging number. Twenty one percent chase rate,

515
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Speaker 3: one of the lowest in the league. I mean, it

516
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 3: didn't qualify because he didn't play enough, but you know,

517
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 3: twenty one percent chase rate when I just told you

518
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: the chase rate in the smallest sample size for Junia

519
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: Cammeraro was thirty five percent. So you know, like there

520
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: are some warning signs that people will be like, well,

521
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: you know you didn't hit as much power as I thought,

522
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: and he had some high strikeout rate, launch angle fix,

523
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: great hard hit numbers, low chase rate. That makes me

524
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: feel phenomenal and where he was probably floating between I

525
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: don't know, seventy eighty ninety, maybe the Roman Anthony range

526
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: last year. He's twenty three and maybe pushes into the

527
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: top twenty right now in Dynasty. He's another one of

528
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: those guys that it's like, you can build this great

529
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 3: young core. I think he's created some great baseline traits

530
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: for himself that is going to continue to get great,

531
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Speaker 3: and don't be surprised when you get a thirty thirty

532
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: season out of James Wood in the next year or two.

533
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: That's what's in play and that's why he's a top

534
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Speaker 3: two round player.

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Speaker 2: He was basically on pace for a twenty thirty season

536
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: as a rookie with a two sixty four average. Just

537
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: turned twenty two. I mean, I yeah, like this guy

538
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: is the limit for for him?

539
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: Truthfully, I don't think you can put a ceiling on him.

540
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of guys who don't have a ceiling, Number One,

541
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Speaker 2: Paul Skean's surprising nobody, or at least it shouldn't just

542
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: a beast of a rookie season, I mean an incredible

543
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: rookie race in the National League. This year Paul Skeens

544
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Speaker 2: does end up winning Rookie of the Year in that league.

545
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: You always it was one of the seasons where you

546
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: wish you could just give this both rookie awards to

547
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: National League guys and have the al skip out a

548
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: year because of how strong it was in the senior circuit.

549
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: But yes, Skians hundred thirty three innings, one C nine

550
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: to five, whip, one hundred and seventy strikeouts, I mean,

551
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: twenty two years old, is as a rookie, you know,

552
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: less than a year removed from being the number one

553
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: overall pick in the draft, one of the best pictures

554
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: prospects to come into baseball in a long time, and

555
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: lived up to the height immediately. There was absolutely no

556
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: adjustment period necessary, just a monster. So really, we don't

557
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: need to sit here and give this effusive praise for Skins,

558
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: because anybody listening to this show is well aware of

559
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Speaker 2: how good Paul Skins is. So I want to ask

560
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: you this and frame it as if in a dynasty startup,

561
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: how many names. Obviously you're not taking any pictures ahead

562
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Speaker 2: of him, unless you want to correct me, I can't

563
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: imagine you would. But how many hitters are you taking

564
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: before Paul Skeens is getting drafted?

565
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a good question, and I think

566
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Speaker 3: the main point, just to reiterate of bringing him up

567
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: is to say he's the US. He's almost the unquestioned

568
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: redraft starting pitcher. I think some people are a little

569
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: dicey because to pay a higher price for schemes over

570
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: like Schooble doesn't make sense to some people. It's not

571
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: close in dynasty. To answer your question, I have schemes

572
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: at twelve, so that would be eleven hitters that are

573
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: over him. Or if you want to be sneaky about it,

574
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: you know sho hail Tani to a player, so you know,

575
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: maybe there is a picture above. Yeah, here's the only

576
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 3: thing that holds him back. Because based on what you

577
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: saw with Paul Skeins, you could argue he's like top

578
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: three or four, and like you.

579
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Speaker 1: Could argue, I wouldn't do this.

580
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Speaker 3: It can't argue don't do the one number one overall

581
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Speaker 3: because I don't.

582
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Speaker 1: Think you can do it.

583
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Speaker 2: You I was going to say, you could make an

584
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: argument I would disagree with that argument. I think you

585
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: could make the argument if you think that the gap

586
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: between him and other pictures for the next decade is

587
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: as wide as it could be, I think you can

588
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: make the case. I would not unequivocally I would not

589
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: take him number one in a Dynasty startup.

590
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: For a level of dominance.

591
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Speaker 1: I would listen to an argument, and then I would

592
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Speaker 1: reject the argument.

593
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: So here is the problem with all of those is

594
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: fun accolades. He's a picture, and that's ultimately the problem.

595
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: Why he can't he isn't higher. You could be like,

596
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: how can you have him at ten? Soon? Show has

597
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: him at seven? Great? He's a pitcher in Dynasty. Like,

598
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: the one thing you don't really want to do, especially

599
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: if you are a young team, is build into pitching

600
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: in Dynasty. I would also say, in a general sense,

601
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: until you are closer or heavily competing, you just don't

602
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: want to be weighted so heavy on pitching. Now, if

603
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: you were to take Paul Skeen's, great, you're locked down

604
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: for a really long time. He's a phenomenal pitcher. I

605
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 3: mean tenth best War of all pitchers this past year

606
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty pitchers. Oh this is the number.

607
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: I didn't coherently write this, but of one hundred and

608
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: twenty pitchers with one hundred or more innings pitch this

609
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: past year, Skeen said the lowest RA of one hundred

610
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: or more innings pitch, one hundred and twenty pitchers lowest era,

611
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: and he also made great strides. That sinker turned into

612
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: what they call the splinker. It's just like a hard

613
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: sinker that he throws throws in between like a split finger.

614
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: It had the second best whiff rate amongst starting pitchers.

615
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: Only Crochet was higher, and it was almost thirty percent

616
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: and had a twenty percent k rate on it, which

617
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: was top ten among starters. Because the point is is

618
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: like sinkers don't induce strikeouts, which is insane and Steamer

619
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Speaker 3: projections for this year check this out. He is number

620
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Speaker 3: one projected in strikeouts this year off of his rookie year.

621
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Speaker 3: There's no other picture. He is the highest strikeout projected.

622
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: He also had the best ERA of every single one

623
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Speaker 3: of those two hundred plus strikeout pitchers, fifth best k

624
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: per nine and second highest war projected to Jacob deGrom,

625
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: which is hilarious. But the thing you need to know

626
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: is Paul Skeins is the unquestioned first round type of

627
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: talent starting pitcher, but ultimately he is a starting pitcher.

628
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: So when you ask me that question coming back, how

629
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: many hitters would I take above him, it is ten

630
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: because I don't personally from a startup, want to build

631
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: around a starting pitcher. I could see a scenario where

632
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: I think buying pitching in dynasty is a lot tougher

633
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: than people make it out to be. I think some

634
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: dynasty people are like, oh, you just don't worry about it,

635
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: and you just build all your hitting and then right

636
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: at the end you can get your pitching now. It

637
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: doesn't work like that. Every dynasty I've ever played, people

638
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: are hoarding their pitching. You could draft schemes and then

639
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: knowing values drop a little bit if you go and

640
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: get you know, a Jose Ramirez or you get a

641
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: first round talent and then you build around some more

642
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: win now type of players. I think that's a better approach.

643
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: That's how I would do it. I wouldn't want to

644
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: be drafting Paul Skins and then James Wood and Da

645
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: da da. I think the risk is too great. This

646
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: is also one of the highest velocity fastball pitchers out there.

647
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: You gotta he was pitched like a gajillion innings in college.

648
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: We worry about that and the usage that's on him.

649
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: So ultimately this is back to that, like pitching prospect

650
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: wanting to be heavily invested in pitchers, which I don't,

651
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: but it's just not remotely close. He's the unquestioned top

652
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: starting pitcher. He was already high last year. But he's

653
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: the only guy that has deserved in redraft or dynasty

654
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: to be even considered in the first round with age

655
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: due to absolute dominant students fricking second in the cy

656
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: young It's not even remotely close. He is a unicorn

657
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: of unicorns of starting pitchers, So you could do that

658
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: points league. This is a little bit different conversation, but

659
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: ultimately a pitching prospect is really tough for me to

660
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: put inside the top ten with the volatility.

661
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: The case for Skins going as high as youever you

662
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: want to make it is that he's an outlier, which

663
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: he may very well be. I mean, just as dominant

664
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: as he was as a rookie.

665
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: A unicorn argument.

666
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: You just don't see this.

667
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: Having said that, I mean, I think back to where

668
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: was Strider going in startups a year ago, and he's

669
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: like three years older than Skeins is now. But like,

670
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: you couldn't have been more excited about a pitcher basically

671
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: than Strider, And now.

672
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: That value falls away because of the injury.

673
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: So not that it's entirely gone, but obviously it looks

674
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: a lot different now. So I mean, we'll put a

675
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: bow on it just as a fun exercise. If I

676
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: the baseball gods came down and said to you, Chris Welsh,

677
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Paul Skeins is guaranteed health for his career. Everybody's guaranteed.

678
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: How injuries are a thing of the past now in baseball?

679
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Is he number one for you then or still not?

680
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he's number one, but he's like three

681
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: if you guaranteed.

682
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Me with like a kunya because injuries are gone.

683
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: I think Oani, even though Tana is thirty, Like I'm

684
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: comfortable with Tani is the number one over on Dynasty

685
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: because he starts pitching again and it's I know, it's

686
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: like a dicey conversation, Wit, I have a heart. I

687
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: don't think I could take Skemes over.

688
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Wit.

689
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: Things start to open up a little bit between Akunya

690
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: Soto Gunner Ellie, like if I got two hundred and

691
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: fifty strikeouts for ten if you said ten years of health,

692
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: and then it's gonna open up after ten years, maybe

693
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: it is number one ten years.

694
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be though.

695
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna hold down your whole rotation.

696
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul Skins is amazing. We're not breaking any news there.

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Speaker 2: as you and I are wanted to do together. We

708
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: went a little long on the risers, so go a

709
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: little quicker on the followers. People also have less interest

710
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: in the negative side of things. We had fun with

711
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: the positive. We'll bring it down a bit on the

712
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: negative number five Mike Trout super negative one emotionally, just

713
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: because it's sadder and sadder every year to see him

714
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: not be able to stay healthy. Fantastic start to twenty

715
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: twenty four, low batting average, but ten home runs in

716
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: twenty nine games. Injured again, of course, missing the rest

717
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: of the year. Thirty three years old now and hasn't

718
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: been truly healthy in what a half decade. So I

719
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: assume age and injury is really the only thing going

720
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: into this, you know, having him listed here as a foller.

721
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty simplistic to that. I mean, he's thirty

722
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: three years old. He clearly cannot be healthy, and that's

723
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: the big thing. And I want to preface this, this

724
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 3: is kind of a me one too. I think there

725
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: are other people good for them smartly have kind of

726
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: moved off of the Mike Trout you know, realm sooner.

727
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: I am a little injury agnostic where I just want

728
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: to give benefits of the doubt, and I want to

729
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: give benefits of the doubt. And here's my biggest struggle

730
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: with a player is when a player is an incredibly awesome,

731
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: unique talent, every moment they're on the field and then

732
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: they get hurt. Jacob de Gram is another one of those.

733
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: Jagram's a little different now because he's thirty six years old,

734
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: but Trout is in that range now. I have continuously

735
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: given him that pass, but I think it is more

736
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: than been proven these degenerative issues, he cannot stay healthy

737
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: and the team gets worse around him. You also saw,

738
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: as good as he was, you saw some decline's massive

739
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: hard hit decline this past year forty one percent. It

740
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: was a I guess of his entire career as a

741
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: third lowesst that he's ever seen. He was striking out

742
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: quite a bit less, which is definitely a positive, but

743
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: he was worse against fastballs, which is not something you

744
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: want to see. And you just wonder if there's more

745
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: of the I don't know, like a patient hitter that's

746
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 3: in there, that's not going to put up these big

747
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 3: impactful numbers. And his age goes on, these guys are

748
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: going to lose, just deteriorate a little bit. And it's

749
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: like if you take away the big power from Mike

750
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: Trout and he doesn't have forty home run potential and

751
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: now he's a thirty home run high batting average like

752
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: he's got bad players around him, so it's like, can

753
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: you project eighty five? Eighty five with thirty something Homers

754
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: doesn't steal a whole lot. I know he did steal

755
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: a little bit more this year. He's still six, but

756
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: there's not much stolen base potential, and he hits for

757
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: higher batting average. Listen, that's third round, but that's a

758
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: pipe dream because he can't stay healthy. He's never on

759
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: the field. So all of those things combined. I held

760
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: out hope last year, held out a little bit of

761
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: hope and redraft I was right for a month, held

762
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: out some hope and dynasty that. Oh he's still top

763
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 3: seventy five. Look at it's outside the top one hundred.

764
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: I think that's the big key. I think some people

765
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: are going to smash him into the two hundreds. I

766
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: think if you are a win now team.

767
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: Would you trade for him? If you're a win now team,

768
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: not even thinking the startup, but would you trade for

769
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: for cheap?

770
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: For cheap? I would be comfortable doing it if it

771
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: was for cheap. But I think his name value this

772
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: might be the first year the name value really tanked.

773
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: Like the name value was always there and people can

774
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 3: make arguments that might be gone. So maybe I would

775
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: be a little bit more likely, but it's outside the

776
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: top one hundred. But if your win, now, I think

777
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 3: it's hard like outside of that, if he's just floating

778
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: around there, like go get that outfield. He's in a

779
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: DH maybe he does stay a little bit healthier. That

780
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: was the Byron Buxton argument. But we know he's going

781
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: to hit the el. But the big change is that

782
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: I think everybody uniformed, everybody collectively got together and came

783
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: off of Mike Trout. In his dynasty value, it is

784
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: post one hundred in a dynasty draft, probably post one fifty.

785
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, next up.

786
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo turns thirty two next month. He made thirty

787
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: starts in twenty twenty four when eleven and twelve one

788
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: to seventy five and a third inning one hundred and

789
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: seventy five strikeouts, so almost exactly identical there three sixty

790
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: four ERA just a one oh one ERA plus so

791
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: just barely above average in that metric, and a one

792
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: to seventeen whip. That's his worst since twenty twenty one.

793
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: Is Castillo an age related foller?

794
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's twofold, it's age thirty two year old

795
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: picture that doesn't feel real great, and that's paired with

796
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: VLO decrease and those two things don't don't work super well.

797
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: Now it's changed before. I think Verlander went through this

798
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: and kind of readjusted his career and refound himself. So

799
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that that. I really don't think like

800
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: a lot of these guys are these damning like they

801
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: can never come back and never improve and you have

802
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: to fade these guys Like No, I think it's just

803
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: the value changes. I will be frank. I think there's

804
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: multiple pictures I could have chosen from. I was picking

805
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: between them, so a younger guy and Zach Gallon that

806
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: I think his value has changed. Logan Webb has come down,

807
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: Aaron Nola has come down, but specifically Castillo hitting that

808
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: thirty two year old marker having you know, arguably is

809
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: still a good season, but like one of the worst seasons.

810
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: It's the second worst expected ERA that he has had

811
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 3: in his entire career, three straight years of an ERA

812
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: increase as well, and on top of it, the whiff numbers,

813
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: So the VILO went down, but the whiff numbers decreased

814
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: across the board, almost across the entire board of all

815
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: of his pitch types. So you had his fastball going

816
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 3: down about a mile per hour. I think a slider

817
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: did as well, and with decreases with the age, I

818
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: don't love it. And he went from a guy that,

819
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: regardless of the age, was probably top thirty five, top

820
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: forty last year and he is pushing outside the top

821
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: eighty and frankly, pinning the type of rotation you're putting together,

822
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: you might be better set with a Brandon Fott. I

823
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: think Uri Perez, even coming off of his surgery at

824
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: his age, is a better long term investment to me,

825
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: and Luis Castillo's value is in the team that I

826
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: am pushing back some of these young players and I'm

827
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: trying to win.

828
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Now.

829
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: You can push him up, but I think there's some

830
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: bad trends in the wrong direction for Castillo.

831
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: Luis Robert next on the list, still only twenty seven

832
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: years old. It's not an age related one here. Fourteen

833
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: home runs, twenty three stone bases in one hundred games.

834
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, he hit a two twenty four,

835
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: two seventy eight, three seventy nine slash line ops plus

836
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: eighty seven, which was the first time in his career

837
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: he was below one hundred, so below average. We went

838
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: into including Robert on this list.

839
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm not black and white in everything that I do,

840
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: So when I tell you that a guy's fallen or

841
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: rose up, I don't think it's the be all end all.

842
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: I think there's a gray area in all of it

843
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: that guys can fix themselves and if there's a player

844
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: on the decrease that can improve themselves. So least Robert

845
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: age is in his favor, pretty big, productive years are

846
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 3: in his favor. But last year it was such a stark,

847
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: scary reminder of how bad it can be. And maybe

848
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: you chalk it up to like you're playing on one

849
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: of the worst teams of all time, you're not invested.

850
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: He was injured, he was playing out here in the

851
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: I saw him multiple times playing in Complex League. You know,

852
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: his friends were gone, Eloy was traded. Mancata was a disaster.

853
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: Like I think there's a personal element of it. Maybe

854
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: he just wasn't interested because it didn't seem like it,

855
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: But the stats tell that story full on thirty three

856
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: percent k rate, that's the worst. Barrel percentage dropped to

857
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: nine percent, which was the lowest of his career, but

858
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: he had a career worst five point nine barrels per

859
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: plate appearance. That's like, I think the lowest before that

860
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: was like seven point one bottom six percent dole of

861
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: the league in expected batting average of two ten. Even worse,

862
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: his hard hit rate crash to forty point seven percent,

863
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: which was the second worst of his career, and that

864
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: was a two percent decrease year over year. Those trends

865
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: all combined are scary and bad. Could he fix it? Sure?

866
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: If he is more motivated. Projections actually tell the story

867
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: that he will. They see a bounce back two forty

868
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: with a twenty eight twenty eight season. Why is that, though,

869
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: because projections usually will work off of modeled three year performances,

870
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: and if you take the three years, there's some big

871
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: performance in there. But I think what we saw out

872
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: of Robert last year scares the hell out of me.

873
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: So I had him massively high talent is unquestioned, top

874
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: twenty five, top twenty. I think I had him last year.

875
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 3: I'd knocked him out of the top seventy five because

876
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: these things worry the ever living crap out of me.

877
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: For Dynasty to have that investment, if he fixes it

878
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: going to try to quickly make a turn. But I

879
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: think these trends are going in a really bad direction.

880
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: And you could hardly blame him if it was any

881
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: kind of just mental burden of playing for that White

882
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Sox team, like anybody.

883
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: And I acknowledge that, like that might be part of it,

884
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: and that might be why he's maybe a bye. He

885
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: maybe he's a sneaky bye if everyone is off of him.

886
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Another older pitcher, Garrett Cole, only made seventeen starts, obviously,

887
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: after he missed the start of the season in twenty

888
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: twenty four. It's the first time he said fewer than

889
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: thirty starts in a season since twenty sixteen, not including

890
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: the COVID shortened twenty twenty season. Thirty four years old, obviously,

891
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: he went eight and five for the Yankees, three forty

892
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: one ERA ninety nine strikeouts in ninety five innings pitched. Again,

893
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: is this an injury slash age related one for a

894
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: guy who's been a regular first rounder in READJAFT leagues

895
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: for a long time.

896
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like some of these guys, I think again, there

897
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: are people that are maybe different or treat some of

898
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: these things different. I will give benefit of the doubt

899
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: for super talented players. Age means sometimes a little bit

900
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: less to me in dynasty than other people. You know,

901
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: if you're like thirty two, people are putting them outside

902
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: the top one hundred. I want to win now, and

903
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: I want those talented players. But Garrett Cole is showing

904
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 3: some pretty concerning signs. Five straight years of declining K percentage,

905
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: which is down to twenty five percent, while his walk

906
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: percentage dupped up to seventy seven point four percent. Those

907
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: combine if you ever pay attention to K minus walk percentage,

908
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: that's not good. That's not good. That walk percentage, by

909
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: the way, was the second highest of his career. He's

910
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: expected era has risen four straight years, and like we

911
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: talked about with Castillo, Velo declines he had about a

912
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: full mile per hour on his fastball and slider go

913
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: back down at thirty four years old. I don't like

914
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: those trends. He's still a talented play He's still got

915
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: things done, but it's not coming at the same velocity

916
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: or impact of what it was before. And as you

917
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: get older, you know, either there's kind of that like

918
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: do you adjust to be from a power pitcher to

919
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: a kind of maybe I'll call it like a finesse

920
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: type of picture, and I just don't think that's there,

921
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: and it's adjusted and again year over year. Garrett Cole,

922
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: regardless of age, I think, was still seen as a

923
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: top two to three sp in Dynasty. He is not

924
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: there right now in Dynasty. I've got him right around fifty.

925
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: And that might even be being a little bit generous,

926
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: because if those declines continue to grow, it's gonna get

927
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: it's gonna have like a dramatic punch to what his

928
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 3: value really is. And I wouldn't be shocked if he's

929
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: like outside the top seventy five here come next season. Frankly,

930
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: if if it was Luis Castillo at like eighty or

931
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: Garrett Cole at fifty, think I might even want Luis Castillo.

932
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: I think those guys are closer now where I just

933
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: don't think they were before.

934
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Last foller here. I was a little surprised by this one.

935
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Corey Seeger thirty years old at home runs in one

936
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three games, So obviously he didn't play

937
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: the entire season. He had some injury stuff he was

938
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: dealing with two seventy eight, three, fifty three, five, twelve,

939
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: triple slash in twenty twenty four ops plus of one

940
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: forty five. So he was good when he was on

941
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: the field, you know, particularly the power numbers. But obviously

942
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: you know, a slightly shortened season. He's on the wrong

943
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: side of thirty. But it's not like he's in his

944
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: late thirties, So can he explain this one a little more?

945
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: Well? His body, I think feels like it's just much

946
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: older from the early thirty eighth injuries. So he and

947
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: I love Corey Seeger, like Corey Seeker's changed, and this

948
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: is part of the rank change. I had him in

949
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: the teams regardless of his age last year because you

950
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: see this guy just big, hard hit numbers, high batting

951
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: average over three hundred, one hundred thirty plus homers, hitting

952
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: three twenty or whatever, like that's what I love. But

953
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: he can't stay on the field, and we also saw

954
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: declines in some of the performance. So here's my biggest worry.

955
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: You're saying the wrong side of thirty, you're just gonna

956
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: be thirty one on April twenty seventh. He might not

957
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: be back until he's thirty one because he had sports

958
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: hernia surgery and they said he will likely be back

959
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: likely is a key term for the beginning of the year.

960
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: If there's no setback, and Corey Seeger is the Mike

961
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: Trout of future run injuries. He has had tons of

962
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: injuries out there, So I am if I'm going to

963
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: be concerned about Mike Trout, I got to be concerned

964
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 3: about a guy that has had a history of injuries

965
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: as well, that team offensively on the decline. You know,

966
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: also batting average had a little bit of a sink

967
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: right now. I think, you know, putting him at number

968
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: one makes it feel super dramatic, like Cory Schieger is

969
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: the biggest on No, it's just this is a guy

970
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: that I think you could have legitimately taken in the

971
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: second round of dynasty drafts that I don't think you

972
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 3: should consider until the fourth round, and you are taking

973
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: some inherent risk with injuries. So there's a theme to

974
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: a lot of these. Outside of Robert, who I think

975
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: is dramatically performance based, it's looking for age to injury

976
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 3: concerns that might have other little like velocity things and

977
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: having a major sports hernia surgery really concerns me about

978
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: Corey Seeger. I need those games out there. I think

979
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: you're just taking on some more inherent risk if you're

980
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: taking him inside the top definitely the top three rounds.

981
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's go very quickly through our all

982
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: Dynasty Risers team. This is a team you put together.

983
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: There's a couple of them that I'll highlight where I

984
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: might have gone in a different direction.

985
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: So just very quick on each of these catcher.

986
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: Who you got cal Raley cal I thought the catcher

987
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: was actually really difficult because most of the catchers kind.

988
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: Of like totally did not. I was like looking at

989
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: was like, is there a better one than cal Rally?

990
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: And there really wasn't.

991
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: You want to know, Samuel Bissio was like one of

992
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: the higher ones I had, but I'm not going to

993
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: put him on there. But cal Rally changed his value

994
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: by becoming a better hitter, big impactful power. Cal Rally

995
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: is definitely the guy at catcher. First base, Mark Vianto's

996
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: I think he belongs as one of the highest first

997
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: base risers in the in the land. Second base, this

998
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: one I wanted to talk about him in this. I'm

999
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: glad we got to put him here. Kudel Marte, this

1000
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: is an over thirty guy that I put on here,

1001
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: So don't be like, hey, well you so you like

1002
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: to win now, but there's no older guys thirty one

1003
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: years old. But guess what, kuld tell Mary became a

1004
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: fixture at second base, arguably one of the top second

1005
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: basemen to be drafted for next season. MVP candidate. He's

1006
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 3: a core hitter, did everything, hits the ball, still hard

1007
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: and more consistent now. Kutel Marte definitely rose up in

1008
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: dynasty ranks this year.

1009
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: You've got Junior Camonaro a third We already talked about him.

1010
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: How about shortstop.

1011
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: Zach Netto would have been a player I would have

1012
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 3: loved to have talked about. The only caveat that's holding

1013
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: me back. He had an injury and he might miss

1014
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of this the beginning of the season.

1015
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: But Neto was one of those dudes. Power stolen based

1016
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: combo twenty thirty could be a twenty forty guy in

1017
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: the near future. Became a huge impact bat at the

1018
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: top of the Angels lineup. And I had this dynasty

1019
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: debate at the end of the year. A guy was

1020
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: trying to trade me Robert and he wanted Netto, and

1021
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I got Netto over Robert in

1022
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 3: Dynasty now, so zach Netto is around a top fifty

1023
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 3: to sixty fantasy player even regardless of the injury.

1024
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: This is the position that I wanted to bring up

1025
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: somebody else, And maybe the guy I'm about to bring

1026
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: up is a year away from being on this list

1027
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: because he's a very young minor leaguer and you actually

1028
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: already mentioned him earlier, and I was glad you did.

1029
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure if I pronounce it right, Leotlise Devri.

1030
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: Is that the correct way to pronounce the Leo divrees.

1031
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: Leo Delis, Leo Dallas, Leodahas.

1032
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: Okay, it's one of those names are you only ever

1033
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: really read instead of here said out loud?

1034
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: But Leo devrees.

1035
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: So I think he's going to be a top five

1036
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: prospect in baseball at some point in his minor league career.

1037
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm over the moon about him as a prospect in Dynasty.

1038
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: Obviously a couple of years away, but I felt like

1039
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: he really broke out in a way where he went

1040
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: from Oh, that's an interesting flyer to have in some

1041
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: deep Dynasty teams too. This is a priority prospect for me,

1042
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: in any sort of prospect slot that I can afford

1043
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: to sit on it for a couple of years, so

1044
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: I really wanted to bring him up.

1045
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree. It just saw he just played

1046
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: in the Arizona Fall League. One of the youngest. He

1047
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: was the third youngest to ever hit a homer in

1048
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 3: the Fall League, behind only Ethan Sallace and Bryce Harper.

1049
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: He's a phenomenal bat. I really like switch hitter like

1050
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: he's got a smooth, smooth bat, better than Ethan Solace's.

1051
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: I agree with everything he's saying. He's already a he'

1052
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: said the sixth prospect on my prospect list, So he's

1053
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: already like their dynasty. He is just two years away.

1054
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: I work in three year windows, but he is a

1055
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: guy that's valued right around that like one hundred to

1056
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: one twenty five range. So I do agree he will

1057
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: be a guy we're probably talking about next year.

1058
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: By the way, I forgot to mention I was gonna mention,

1059
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: and you have Cameron Aar obviously at third. I think

1060
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: you can make a case of third in my opinion.

1061
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: For Jordan Westburg, we haven't talked about enough Orioles on

1062
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: this show. Sure I did not have him that highly

1063
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: ranked diacet. I thought he was gonna be He's a

1064
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: really solid player. I love having him on my team

1065
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: as an Orioles fan. I was more impressed than I

1066
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: expected to be with his consistency month a month in

1067
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: terms of better power than I expected from him. Obviously,

1068
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: he only had eighteen home runs because he missed some

1069
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: time with a broken wrist. I think it was when

1070
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 2: he got hit on the hand or something on a pitch,

1071
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: so that those numbers look a little diminished. But I

1072
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: was really impressed with Westburg, and my estimation of him

1073
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: in Fantasy grew a lot last year, so I did

1074
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: mean to mention him.

1075
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Speaker 3: I would have if we if the All Rise team

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Speaker 3: was to not include any of the players we talked about,

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Speaker 3: which maybe we should, Westburg would have been the third base.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was really impressed in this year.

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Speaker 2: Matt outfield, James Wood and Roman Anthony are two of

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Speaker 2: the names. Again, we've already talked about them. Who's the

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Speaker 2: third outfielder you have?

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Speaker 3: Well, I kind of prefaced it when we were talking earlier.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Merril, Like Jackson Merril does deserve the huge bump

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Speaker 3: year over year, And you know, I literally probably didn't

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Speaker 3: mention him because we did it in another show. But

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Speaker 3: from a Dynasty perspective, Jackson Merrill one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: risers in value year over year. He's a twenty twenty guy.

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Speaker 3: His power projection and steamer is actually higher than what

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Speaker 3: he did. So people are banking on that great outfielder

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Speaker 3: that's going to continue to stay out. They're really good average,

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Speaker 3: and he is, you know, arguably probably top thirty five.

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Speaker 3: He's a second to third round Dynasty if maybe not

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Speaker 3: second round player. Maybe his offensive impact is less than

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00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 3: like James Wood in Cheerio, but it's right there. So

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Speaker 3: he's going to join Wood in Anthony for our all

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Speaker 3: outfield riser Dynasty team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great call too. Paul skeens obviously at

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Speaker 2: starting pitcher and then wrap us up with relief.

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Speaker 3: Pitcher Mason Miller. Maybe it's a little bit, but you know,

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Speaker 3: closers are really difficult for people in Dynasty to figure

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Speaker 3: out how to value them and what to do a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Hater was a huge failure last year. The

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Speaker 3: only one that really paid off for the high cost

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Speaker 3: anyone would have done in Dynasty is a manual class

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Speaker 3: guy almost you know, he was in the Cy Young contention,

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Speaker 3: so that I think is the tippy top. But Mason

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Speaker 3: Miller is if you were going to invest, my little

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Speaker 3: strategy probably don't draft a closer in any capacity inside

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Speaker 3: the top one hundred, whether you're competing or you know,

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Speaker 3: you're kind of just trying to build out your dynasty team.

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Speaker 3: Don't do it in the top one hundred. If you

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Speaker 3: were to invest, the two to invest are Emmanuel Classe

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Speaker 3: and Mason Miller. Mason Miller didn't come into last year

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00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: as a closer. He's still on the a's with puts

1116
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: in question, but it's massive strikeout numbers. Guy's going to

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00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: strike out like one hundred every year. He's going to

1118
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: save whatever viable games are out there, And in a

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Speaker 3: dynasty perspective, he might be the best bet of any closer. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: even over class A who's got a little bit of

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00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 3: age on him, he might be the best bet of investment.

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Speaker 3: So the all rank risers, and probably the only closer

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Speaker 3: that would be worth making a real investment on is

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Speaker 3: Mason Miller.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap up there. Well, fun talk of baseball with you.

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Speaker 2: We talked football every week on Tuesdays with ericson but

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Speaker 2: you know that you and I both have first loves

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Speaker 2: our baseball, so.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what you and I are kind of

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Speaker 3: at the forefront of making sure and hopefully people see

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Pro Any.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Or if we've ever credit for pushing for it.

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Speaker 3: Too, don't compliment Mayor.

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Speaker 1: He's my co host on the cycle.

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Speaker 3: I got a course, he's a monster. But just letting

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Speaker 3: you guys know, the passion is here, whether it's Dynasty

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Speaker 3: So make sure you are checking out the YouTube channel,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be an awesome twenty twenty five and it's

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Speaker 2: already starting now. Also, I forgot to mention this, and

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Speaker 2: you reminded me before the show, so I apologize. Your

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Speaker 2: dynasty rankings are dropping December first, so for your Welsh

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Speaker 2: specific dynasty rankings, be sure everybody listening check out the

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Speaker 2: site to hear what he has to say and see

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Speaker 2: where he's got these guys actually ranked for your own

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Speaker 2: startups and or off season trades.

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Speaker 3: Do it, baby, check it out. I'll put an article

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Speaker 3: out and it'll be on the consensus ranks, and we'll

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Speaker 3: get all those bad boys cleaned up all the baseballs.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna click more baseballs around us. Glad to talk

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Speaker 3: some dynasty with you.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there on that.

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