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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me well.

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Speaker 2: All about that high school drama, Girl, Drama Girl, all

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Speaker 2: about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride,

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Speaker 2: and our comic girl shared for the right team.

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Speaker 3: Drama Queens, Jaylie's go off Girl Fashion, but your tough girl,

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Speaker 3: you could sit with us Girl Drama, Queen Drama, Queens Drama,

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Speaker 3: Queens Drama, John McQueen's Drama Queens.

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Speaker 4: We're gathering for season eight, episode sixteen. I think I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna like it here. Our original air date was February

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Speaker 4: twenty second, twenty eleven. That's my friend Cammy's birthday, Robert,

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Speaker 4: would you like to read our synopsis for the Girls?

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Speaker 5: Would love to? As the girls plan a surprise baby

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Speaker 5: shower for Haley, The guys participate in tryouts for Jamie's

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Speaker 5: baseball team. Meanwhile, Brook and Julian pursue adoption, and Mouth

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Speaker 5: gets Milicent ready for her first day at work. I

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Speaker 5: was directed by Stephen Goldfried and written by Rachel Spector

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Speaker 5: and Audrey What show.

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Speaker 1: I think that's correct?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the best. Rachel and Audrey are so great, and

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Speaker 4: you feel their sort of spirit and their playfulness and

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Speaker 4: their sense of humor in the whole episode.

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Speaker 5: I think it.

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Speaker 1: Feelt kind of flat for me. I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty bored. I'm sorry, it is pretty bored.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I was enjoying the pace of it

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Speaker 4: because I was also making lunch while I was watching

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Speaker 4: this episode, So maybe it was the perfect thing to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mean to take away from Rachel and Audrey.

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Speaker 1: I think they're both incredibly talented writers and wonderful women,

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Speaker 1: and we really enjoyed having them on the show. And

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Speaker 1: you never know what's going on behind the scenes and

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Speaker 1: what's being rewritten outside of their names and what is

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Speaker 1: what the parameters are on people that are writing things,

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Speaker 1: So it's never really any reflection on the writers. It's

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Speaker 1: just I couldn't And I think possibly the combination of

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Speaker 1: probably just didn't have the expand he didn't have I

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Speaker 1: don't know that his depth of history spending time with

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of scenes with a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: so that's also a big heavy lift to pull. But

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Speaker 1: all the pieces just felt clunky to me. They didn't

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Speaker 5: One thing I will say to that point is it

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Speaker 5: felt so I feel like it's hard to service an

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Speaker 5: ensemble cast in forty four minutes, you know, like when

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Speaker 5: you actually break it down, when you have like eight

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Speaker 5: of screen time, so it's very hard to tell stories

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Speaker 5: for everyone. So I feel like most episodes, everything it's

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Speaker 5: like this scene's in here because we have to get

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Speaker 4: I think that's what I liked though, was I finally

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Speaker 4: I guess like there were certain things I really liked

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Speaker 4: where the callbacks took a while to come around, Like

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Speaker 4: you have that great sequence in The Morning Joy, when

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Speaker 4: in baseball. And then it comes up so long later,

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Speaker 1: And Daphney walking in after you just got over done

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Speaker 4: So it's like I liked that that there was a

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I think when they're trying to do exactly what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more of a narrative style. More of a

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Speaker 1: Every character has a motive, there's something that they're moving toward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I think kind of like to So's point,

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Speaker 5: it's like it's not it's it's neither a good nor

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Speaker 5: this one was just different, you know, correct? But I okay,

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Speaker 5: opening montage was, yes, but it worked because of that song.

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Speaker 5: I thought like it was I was very happy with it.

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Speaker 1: That's actually a good, good point that the opener was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what what I thought was sort of interesting about it,

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Speaker 4: yeah it is. It's funny. You're right. I think it's like,

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Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna die. I love this.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 4: It's like rom com energy.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't for the viewer, it's not. It's not a

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Speaker 5: gonna spoon feed you some fun plot stuff. Yeah, everyone's

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Speaker 4: You're just gonna enjoy yourself today.

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Speaker 5: One of my first note was I just love Lisa Goldstein.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love her too. She should I have on here.

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Speaker 1: Lisa needs her own TV show.

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Speaker 5: Yes, when she was putting on lifstick in the mirror,

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Speaker 4: Well and to do a scene particularly one where the

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Speaker 4: without saying a single word, communicate the absolute bitter sweetness

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Speaker 4: her face and it was so beautiful. I agree.

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Speaker 5: The uh, Haley coming in all kitted up with the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just like pure Lucia Ball inspiration for me,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and to dress up with a kid always heightens it,

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Speaker 4: and it works for Haley. It was such a great choice,

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Speaker 5: Was there a specific reason that Haley wasn't going to go?

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Speaker 1: Think that's just the exposition of why I wasn't going

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Speaker 4: Because you had a bibbish However.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, You're like, well, I wish I could be there,

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Speaker 1: But where was I wasn't going to Is it his

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Speaker 4: Auditions?

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Speaker 1: It was great Julian auditions. So and why did I

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Speaker 1: guess I missed this too? I mean Kellerman, why did

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Speaker 1: I was confused as to why he met you out

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Speaker 5: Well, he stood us up. So my only thing is

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Speaker 5: like that was just him eventually catching up with us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I kind of assumed that, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: this kid. Oh, I'm sorry, Rob, I didn't mean to

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Speaker 5: Well, because there was something a very specific question I

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Speaker 5: have for Sophia before we get into that part of

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Speaker 5: the episode. So there's the really sweet scene of Brooke

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Speaker 1: needed all of Janna's lions.

436
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like Alison's first line to you, Brooke was like, Hey,

437
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 5: it's at least I can do after you save my life?

438
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 5: So what's up with stuff?

439
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 6: That is?

440
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: That is one of those like speaking of that just

441
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 4: no one would ever say, yeah, but you know what

442
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: it what it reminds me of is, you know, we

443
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 4: always had to lose so much to the cutting room

444
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 4: for right, because when you're doing a network show and

445
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 4: you have commercial breaks, you've got forty three minutes, sometimes

446
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: forty two and a half. And this is one of

447
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: those episodes when you see, especially all the girls in

448
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 4: one room and everyone is in the comedic swirl of

449
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: just the wheels beginning to fall off. You're like, God,

450
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: I wish this had been a streaming show and we

451
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: could have had the full sixty because where this would

452
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: have gone with more time would have just been so

453
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 4: damn funny.

454
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

455
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 5: I would have loved to have traded five minutes of

456
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 5: the Kellerman storyline for five more minutes in that party

457
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 5: with just you women.

458
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: I don't know about a full five.

459
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: I think we could have trimmed two. But Okay, I

460
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: really did enjoy this storyline between the two of you

461
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: because I, first of all, I just love all the

462
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: reinforcements of the friendship between Nathan and Clay. That always

463
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: feels good to me. And maybe there's been a ala

464
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: to it that just continues to remind us of where

465
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: our show came from and this connection between the guys.

466
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: But I liked the dynamic you guys were doing. I

467
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't call a good cop bad cop because it wasn't

468
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: really a game, but Clay was much more cynical and

469
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: usable reasonable and skeptical about this kid. And Nathan having

470
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: grown up with a dad much like Kellerman and being

471
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: a star athlete he understood this kid and was able

472
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: to like. But I liked watching you be, yeah, a

473
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: normal person reacting the way most people would like. No,

474
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: I respect myself and my company too much. I'm not

475
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: going to sit here and wait around for this kid

476
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: and then to learn from someone that that's It's not

477
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: always a hard and fast rule. Like there's nuance to

478
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: different personalities and sometimes you gotta be patiently gracious. And

479
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked watching that subtly happen, and

480
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: you did it in a way that, again, it didn't

481
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: feel over the top. It felt very grounded. And I'm

482
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: so grateful that Steve sat the camera on you and

483
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: let it live so that it wasn't just cutting away,

484
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: but we really got to live with your reactions.

485
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 4: I think one of the things I really enjoyed about

486
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 4: having a little slowness in this was getting to watch

487
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: people think. And I really appreciated all four of you

488
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: guys at the bar having these conversations. While we don't

489
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 4: really know a lot about Clay's parents, we know a

490
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: lot about Julian's dad. We know the most about Dan Scott.

491
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 4: We've seen Professor Kellerman, and I really liked getting to

492
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: see grown men sit around and talk about family and influence.

493
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: And I liked seeing Clay understand that Ian really was

494
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: a young version of Nathan, not just because he was

495
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: kind of a dick and a star athlete, but oh

496
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: maybe he has this chip on his shoulder because he's

497
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: never been good enough at home. That's interesting. That's an

498
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 4: experience my friend has. It's something that you watch Austin

499
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 4: not along with and you're like, oh, yeah, Julian and

500
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: Paul their whole thing. You know, he was never going

501
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: to be good enough, and I don't know. It's really

502
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 4: lovely to not only as an audience member feel like

503
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: you know something and you get what everyone's talking about,

504
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 4: but it's cool to watch a group of people look

505
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 4: at each other and get it and then be in

506
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: on what they're communicating about, both in what they're saying

507
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: and in what's unsaid. But that comes through the eye

508
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: contact and the nod or the reference to someone like, oh, yeah,

509
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: he gets it. I loved that, And I think you guys,

510
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 4: you're all so good together as actors. I really enjoy

511
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: watching this packet dudes hang out. It's nice. Yeah.

512
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: I found in that bar scene my one beef was

513
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 5: that I wish we all would have had more of

514
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 5: a reaction to Austin, to Julian sharing the news that

515
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: you guys are going to adopt. However, that's forty four

516
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 5: year old me having that thought, because the truth is

517
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: at twenty eight that might have been like congrats, dude,

518
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 5: might have been the entire scope.

519
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: People don't understand the context at that age. Yeah, you know.

520
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: I think it's also because like I like Julian and

521
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 5: I want to root from them, like ask about his experience, hype.

522
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 7: Them up, you know.

523
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 5: But again that's like the more version of you. I

524
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: think one thing the show has done incredibly well is

525
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 5: that they have really shown that Nathan has an innate

526
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: talent and an innate value at being an agent, because

527
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: it very easily could have been this like my buddy

528
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: Clay threw me a bone because my career dried up,

529
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 5: and instead, very efficiently, like they have weaved this sort

530
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 5: of thread of like Nathan being able to spot things

531
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 5: in Clay's blind spot, and it's like, so there are

532
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 5: these good things that are happening that wouldn't be happening

533
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 5: if Nathan wasn't there, And I just think it's that's

534
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 5: such a service to the character of Nathan, and it

535
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: also makes Clay look good like Clay identified something in there.

536
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: But again, it's just it just took a little extra

537
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 5: finessing and it makes that storyline so much more rich

538
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 5: and valuable because you're like, Okay, now I also understand

539
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 5: why Nathan would want to do this, like he's seeing

540
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 5: himself do well like it just I think they really

541
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 5: nailed that.

542
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad they gave him a kid that

543
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Eric client. I guess he looks like a kid to me,

544
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: but that Nathan could relate to so much, and the

545
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: fact that the kid was self aware enough that he's, yeah,

546
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: he's doing all this stuff. But the conversation and that

547
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: they eventually have you know, where he's talking with it

548
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: both of you or is it just Nathan. I can't remember,

549
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: and he says, don't try and make your kid be

550
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: like you.

551
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 5: I think that's on the baseball field when it's just

552
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: he and Nathan, it was.

553
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: Just the two of them. Yeah, yeah, I just I

554
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: appreciated that the extra depth of character, this extra dimension,

555
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: that he wasn't just this cocky kid who's you know,

556
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: a caricature of who Nathan was, but he's aware enough

557
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: to be able to make some offer some advice, and

558
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: you know he knows what he's doing.

559
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's very two dimensional, but when you

560
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: realize his age and what he's been through, it kind

561
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 5: of makes sense. Like he's he's a pissed off kid,

562
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, So it works because at the start,

563
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: it's like, Oh, he's the bad boy dickhead who drinks

564
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: beers on the baseball field. It's like, oh, dude, come on,

565
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: gave it, give him some shades. But then this episode

566
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 5: was nice because we did sort of find out like, oh,

567
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: he has baggage and there's a reason he is this way.

568
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, feels juicy too. What's coming up the way

569
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Nathan said, it's it's gonna make your dad upset, and

570
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: he's like, great, no problem, Yeah, what's coming up next?

571
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: It's an interesting theme though, I mean, even you choosing

572
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: that word rob, it's like, that's what Levin Chloe says

573
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: when she comes to Brooke and Julian's door. You guys

574
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: seem like you have baggage, yeah, which means you're gonna

575
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 4: understand when this kid makes mistakes. And it's really interesting

576
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: that Ian Kellerman's baggage just reads his bad behavior initially

577
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: to Clay, and Nathan is like, I know what that

578
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: baggage is. He's basically looking at that kid going I

579
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: have a set of that luggage. I know what to

580
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: do with that. And it's a cool runner that they're

581
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: giving these young people to be trying to process us

582
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: their baggage with a group of characters that our audience

583
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: has seen process their own in their youth.

584
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, And it's actually very interesting watching the way

585
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: Clay responds to this situation and the way Nathan responds

586
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 5: to the situation. It feels like the way my brain

587
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: processes things where it's like my first thought is usually

588
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: comes from like ego or fear, and it's like, this

589
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: kid's a dick, he's wasting my time. Like my first

590
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 5: thought is usually I will make a barrage of assumptions

591
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 5: to tell myself the full story and validate a feeling.

592
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: And then the second thought is like, but what if

593
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: I don't know what's happening in his life? You know,

594
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: because Clay's understandably so Clay's like he's late, screwm this

595
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: isn't important to him. And then Nathan is like, yeah,

596
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 5: but if you'd done this, you wouldn't you wouldn't assign me,

597
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: and I would have been a problem, you know. So

598
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 5: it's kind of cool to watch, like it's sort of

599
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: like the reptilian brain and the evolved brain. You know,

600
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 5: it's like you don't maybe you don't know every thing

601
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: going on, maybe we explore.

602
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very cool.

603
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: Okay, let's get to the baseball try out, because I

604
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 5: just want to say credit to all of us that

605
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: we made it more than thirty minutes into the episode

606
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: without bringing up the fact we made Julian chase a

607
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 5: mother flipping butterfly for real. We watched a grown man

608
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: like simple Jack from Chropic Thunder chase a butterfly in

609
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: a field in the middle of a game, and you

610
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: know what, to his credit, he committed one. And it

611
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 5: was endearing, but like, what the shh?

612
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, super silly. It was like Sunday morning comic strip.

613
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Very silly. Yes, very silly, But in the context of

614
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: our show and all the still the things that we've

615
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: done it, you have to sort of take these moments

616
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: and suspend reality. And so I was like, Okay, he's

617
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: a director, he's going to be drawn by little random

618
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: things like light and birds and butterflies, and of course

619
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: he's going to be distracted. He's a little squirrely. Okay, next,

620
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's like really a hat on a hat

621
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: on a hat.

622
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: But you know what I really appreciate about Austin and

623
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: this is even it's funny. I'm just realizing that it's

624
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: sort of a parallel thing to the reference you made

625
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: for Haley earlier. He's not afraid of the Lucille Ball comedy. Yeah,

626
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: Like he's so unbothered about expectation, any of it. You know.

627
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: It's like Austin was the guy ripping six foot waves

628
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: with his toenails painted. When we were all in Wilmington,

629
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: people were like, we don't know what to make of

630
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: this dude who's like so tall and so handsome and

631
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: like manly, but who who is like, yeah, you want

632
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: to put eyeline around me, you want to paint my

633
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: nails whatever? Like he just doesn't give a shit. Yeah,

634
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: and it's it's funny to see. And I think you

635
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 4: said this a while back. Rob, It's like he makes

636
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: all the stuff that I think another young actor might

637
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: have felt dinged by work. It's like how did you

638
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: figure out how to be charming in this thing that,

639
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: like most guys would have been like what the to

640
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 4: the writers, he was just like.

641
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, if you bring your ego to set, you're

642
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: gonna have a hard time with a lot of Julian stuff.

643
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

644
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: Like the only way to do it and not be

645
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 5: miserable is to just like leave your ego and your

646
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: trailer and just go out there and just lean into

647
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 5: the strike zone. You know, yeah, boom baseball pun. I

648
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 5: like Jamie. The exchange between Ian Kellerman and Jamie was

649
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: was great because I didn't remember that. I'm like, Ah,

650
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 5: where is this going to go? Is he gonna say

651
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: something inappropriate? But I like that he actually gave him

652
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 5: real advice.

653
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 7: And then to.

654
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 5: Watch Jackson you do what to watch watch Jamie get

655
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 5: in Clay's kitchen on the Mound was so great.

656
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: It was so funny because I had the same fear

657
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 4: when when he bent down in front of Jackson and

658
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: started being like, okay, kid, this is what it is.

659
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh God, is he going to say

660
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: some gross thing about how when you're old enough to drive,

661
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: you can like, you know, take babes out in your car.

662
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: I was like, what, what's coming? It's going to be awful,

663
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: And then it wasn't, and I was pleasantly surprised. I

664
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, maybe Ian Callerman doesn't suck so much.

665
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: Kid Killerman might not be public Enemy number one. And

666
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: then to see an actual kid, do you know, take

667
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: the advice he'd been given and throw you off the

668
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: way you reacted to him, and that close up rob

669
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: was so funny and it just I don't know, the whole,

670
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: the whole, the whole gag of it was great.

671
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 5: Also the fact that he he being Ian Killerman, rolls

672
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 5: up in a shiny Porsche. I'm like, isn't this a

673
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 5: kid who doesn't have a deal yet. Yeah, I'm a

674
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: college kid with a father who is a professor, professor,

675
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 5: single parent income on a professor's salary, and the kid

676
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: has a brand.

677
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: New Port Highlight.

678
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Is That's so good?

679
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 5: Like it fits with that type of character. But like,

680
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 5: I think we're two episodes too early for the Porsche.

681
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 5: I think you got to sign that deal first and

682
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: then you get yourself the Porsche.

683
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: Yes, so silly, just so silly.

684
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 6: You know.

685
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 4: What I will say was a positive green And I

686
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: have not been tracking when it changed, but I guess

687
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: because we did spend all that time in Brook and

688
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: Julian's bedroom. In the jumping on the bed scene, I

689
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, my bedroom's not purple anymore.

690
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: It's green, though, is that true? I'm lovely all green

691
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: and it made me so happy. And I can't remember

692
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 4: when we changed it, but I do remember eventually winning

693
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: that battle and feeling so thrilled.

694
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: You were like enough with the purple.

695
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't nobody wants to live in this,

696
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: no adult.

697
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: No, You're like, Hi, I am a woman, not Willy Wonka. Yeah,

698
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 5: can we paint this a reasonable color?

699
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 4: Yes? I'm not a six year old. I would love

700
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: to not have a unicorn themed bedroom anymore. Thank you

701
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: so much.

702
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: You know, the whole apartment on Friends was painted purple,

703
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: but the descort was like an anthropology, and they knew

704
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: they it was very upscale, it was very you know, corky,

705
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: and it all worked. But when you try and mix

706
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: that purple with seaside, uh, I don't know what the

707
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: kids call this aesthetic now, granny seaside aesthetic, it just

708
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: is not just not work.

709
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 4: Coastal grandmother is the term.

710
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Wow, didn't.

711
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Crisp white Wine and Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson

712
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: on the beach in all White Coastal.

713
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Grandmother, Crystal Grandmother, Coastal Grandmother. But in Lavender, it's not

714
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: a thing.

715
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: It was not for me. So that's the green battle

716
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: that I'm quite pleased that.

717
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 5: We one good for you way to go to battle

718
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: on that hill.

719
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Thank you with mouth and Millie when he uh, she

720
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: comes home and he's set up the camera and he's

721
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: written stories for me.

722
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: The practice it.

723
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: Like, gosh, it's such a great lesson. Like he feels,

724
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's got to feel bummed, he's got to

725
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: feel pushed aside, like you know, he lost the job

726
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: and by accident to his girlfriend.

727
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on.

728
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: But instead of sulking, instead of doing anything else that

729
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: or ignoring it or just trying to like pretend like

730
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: he's happy for her, he actually is proactive for his

731
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: for his own self, and like I refuse to allow

732
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: myself to sulk. I refuse to begrudge her this and

733
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to actively find a way to put

734
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: my body into a place of celebratory a celebratory season

735
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: for her. It was cool.

736
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really refreshing.

737
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 5: They yet, by the way, did they have a couple name?

738
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: Because in my notes I said, like, Mouth and Mille

739
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: are adorable. They're such great teammates. They're starting to give

740
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 5: Brilliant a run for their money. Did Mouth and Milly

741
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 5: have a couple name.

742
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if they could because they had the

743
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: same first initial, so you can't really combo.

744
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Milf Mythilly or Mouth Melt.

745
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 4: Like milf.

746
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, like milf. I think it's milf. That sounds right.

747
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 5: Another thing I really liked was especially given how unhelpful

748
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 5: Haley was to Brook with the whole monster in law

749
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 5: of at all, Like, especially the episode at the Bridal Expo. Remember,

750
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: like Brook calls her down and Haley just completely torpedoes

751
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 5: her submarine accidentally at every turn because of her hormones.

752
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 5: I loved that she was the one who saved the

753
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 5: day in this bridal shower excuse me a baby shower

754
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: scene with her toast, like everyone put the foot in

755
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: it in a massive way, and then the last second

756
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: Hailey kind of sneaks in.

757
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 6: She's like but.

758
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: Has a lovely toast that sort of saves the day.

759
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

760
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Yes, although she says there's no one to whom I

761
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: trust my child more. And her sister is sitting right there.

762
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: It would have been great if they just cut to

763
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: Chantelle like under her breath, rude being like thanks, offense taken.

764
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: Why did they not cut to her?

765
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have been a great extra, a little

766
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: like a rude like I'll explain later, I'll tell you later.

767
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: You know. What's also so funny is, obviously, you know,

768
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 4: Haley's supposed to be one of many siblings, but for

769
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: most of high school, Hailey was an only child, and

770
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: then they were like, no, no, no, no, she has lots

771
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: of siblings because like all the kids can't be only children.

772
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: But when you.

773
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: Think about it, yeah, like in the experience of our audience,

774
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: Brooke being Jamie's godmother makes so much sense. But in

775
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: the real world, if you were actually best friends with

776
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: your sister, your sister would probably be the god barant

777
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: to your child. And so it's it is a really

778
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: funny thing. Where As the as the years went on

779
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: and our world expanded in season seven and we got

780
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: Quinn and Clay and we got to actually be around

781
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: Hailey's sister, You're like, oh, yeah, this was a there

782
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: was a big hole left here because nobody ever thought

783
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 4: we'd get this far and now we're here.

784
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 6: And that she's going to insult her sister and this

785
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 6: baby shoe on definitely should have been something like oh

786
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 6: and then you know you travel all the time, or

787
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 6: just some acknowledgment.

788
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I have a question, did we ever, as

789
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: a show, attempt to explain why Quinn wasn't in high

790
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: school with Haley.

791
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: She's supposed to be the older sister.

792
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: So she's okay, so we'ressuming she's at least four years older.

793
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Than you, but Taylor would have been in high school

794
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: with me.

795
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

796
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they hired a girl younger than any of

797
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: us in season seven to play the oldest of all

798
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: the James sisters nice, which literally makes no sense, but

799
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: obviously she was also the best person to play Quinn.

800
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 4: So here we are.

801
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Lindsay was. I guess Taylor was two

802
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: years older than Haley.

803
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

804
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: When we started, we were juniors, right, we started the show,

805
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: we were.

806
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: All Yeah, we started junior year because we could all drive.

807
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. So yeah, I guess we just assumed

808
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: that they were out of high school. We just never

809
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: talked about them.

810
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so if Taylor's two years older than Haley, Quinn

811
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: has to be at least three. Yeah, so it's not

812
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like a ten year age gap

813
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 4: or anything. But it is funny.

814
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Well with all these other kids that we never met. Yeah, yeah, but.

815
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 4: It's exactly that thing too, of especially where we all

816
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: were when we were in these seasons. It's like, you're,

817
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 4: I don't know, twenty eight years old. Probably at twenty eight,

818
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: especially as a girl in our industry, you can either

819
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 4: play a high school student or someone's mom.

820
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: It's just it's ridiculous on the lighting.

821
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's insane.

822
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: Okay, here's something that I thought was really funny in

823
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: the scene with Clay and Quinn in the car when

824
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: she's being really still and stuff, after everybody's been peppering

825
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: her about the engagement possibility and you're like, what's up.

826
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: You're really quiet, and she says, just thinking about something

827
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: the girls said tonight, and then there's just silence, silence.

828
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: You don't follow up with what was that? You want

829
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: to talk about it? She doesn't elaborate, it's just silence.

830
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 5: Listen. Active listening is not one of Clay's strongs. Okay,

831
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: he tried. He made one attempt, but that's about all

832
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 5: you're going to get from oclay, Yeah.

833
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: Or is it just that these two are so comfortable

834
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 4: with each other that silence is comfortable between them.

835
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 5: There's also a world in which you ask your partner

836
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 5: what's up and then they say something someone said. If

837
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 5: they don't continue to share, you can interpret that as

838
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 5: they don't want to talk about it right now.

839
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess that's true.

840
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 5: If you have an open dialogue with your person, then

841
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 5: that's sort of a way of going like, oh, they

842
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 5: don't seem like they want to Yeah, you know, download

843
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 5: right now.

844
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: Okay. I think what felt nice about it was you

845
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: guys felt so at ease, and then I didn't really

846
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: know where it was going to go. When she's like, wait, wait,

847
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: pull over, I was like, oh God, it started to

848
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: seem like it's something wrong, and I know they wanted

849
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: to flash back to you know, the in between world

850
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 4: or whatever we want to call it. But what I

851
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: liked was that it ended. That scene ended kind of

852
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: the way that silence felt in the car for me.

853
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 4: You guys just seem really solid and comfortable, and that

854
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 4: was nice to see.

855
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

856
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: What was that place?

857
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 5: Same? I was like, what where are we going? What?

858
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: And then it's just kind of odd because it's like, oh,

859
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 5: this is the place I wanted to take. So I'm

860
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 5: like it was this like a botanical garden that Clay

861
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: had seen one day. I didn't know. Listen, it made

862
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: for a beautiful setting.

863
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: But you guys had never been there in real life,

864
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: only in the in between, right crooky upside down?

865
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

866
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 5: Correct?

867
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: Strange and that she would recognize it at.

868
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: Nighttime and with Twinkie lights.

869
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: They put a lot of twinkle lights up. That was

870
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: a lot of time, by the.

871
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: Way, I wondered, but she said pull over, so I

872
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: was like, well, it can't be. But when she's like,

873
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, just something the girls said and we all

874
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: know it's about getting engaged, and then you guys are

875
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: walking through a fairy forest, I was like, oh my god,

876
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: is Clay about to propose? And then I was like, wait,

877
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: I directed that episode where you do that, so I

878
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: should know that it's not in my brain. I was like,

879
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: what is happening because it looks like a proposal.

880
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 5: Scene does one hundred percent? I like, you, I know

881
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 5: how I remember very clearly our proposal, and yet I went,

882
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 5: did Clay have like a romantic thing planned here? Because yeah,

883
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 5: there's some strong cheese, all that vibes going on. Oh yes, yeah,

884
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: I'm feeling a gesture. Nailed it and no.

885
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, just pretty lights at night.

886
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 5: Julian Brooke got their habby baby.

887
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: I got so emotional at the end those Yeah, I know,

888
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: I know, it's so sweet.

889
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: I did not know where she was going with that speech.

890
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: I genuinely thought they had this girl come all the

891
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: way down here just to tell them. No, man, I

892
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: going to justify that.

893
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 5: Like this could have been a text message.

894
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Well not back then. I guess that's true. Phone call. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: but the speech turned pretty quickly to good news.

896
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: I know it's sweet and it's interesting too. So I

897
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: like that you didn't really know where it was going

898
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: when she came to the door, and that I wasn't

899
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 4: sure what was going to happen at the end of

900
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 4: the shower either.

901
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

902
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: But what I loved getting to see sort of similarly

903
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: now that I think about it, to Nathan knowing how

904
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 4: to advocate for Ian Kellerman, I liked seeing these two

905
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: women standing in Brook's bedroom with this photo of Brook

906
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 4: from high school. It felt like they were reaching across

907
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: their life stages to each other in a way.

908
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean she recognized herself in that photo.

909
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I liked that in the same way that

910
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 4: we got to see Brooke talk to Julian about the

911
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: bachelorette party and just saying, I don't know what I

912
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: don't know, but essentially what I do know is that

913
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 4: I always want us to be honest with each other.

914
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 4: I like that this young girl was like, I get judgment,

915
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 4: and that Brooke looks at her and says, but I'm nineteen,

916
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: I should know better, and then is honest with her

917
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: and tells her about her life and her journey and

918
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 4: all the things she used to not know, but how

919
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: she's always known this. It's like, I don't know, it

920
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: felt it felt really lovely, and maybe it hit me

921
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: a little harder because we had talked about it from

922
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 4: the hen Night episode, but it I don't know. It

923
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 4: just feels really cool to see some of our characters

924
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: look backwards and you get to see how far they've come.

925
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, And it's always nice when

926
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: they do that. I mean, it's kind of the same

927
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: thing they were doing with Nathan and Ian Kelen. Yeah,

928
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: where they're just reminding you, hey, audience, we're bringing in

929
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: this sort of younger version of these people, so you

930
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: can see how far our characters have grown. So that

931
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: was a good point. I didn't think about that, the

932
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: way that the two of them. She kind of mirrored

933
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: Brook and he mirrored Nathan. That's nice.

934
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of cool to see it and to go, wow,

935
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: these people really have grown. And then I guess at

936
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: the end of the episode, we know the boys are

937
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 4: going to advocate for Ian, and Chloe shows up and says,

938
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: I want to pick you guys, and you go like,

939
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 4: oh my god, we're really in these milestone moments here. Special.

940
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: There's a vibe right now where you can kind of

941
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 5: tell the writer's room is like, is this going to

942
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 5: be our last season because everyone is kind of ramping

943
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 5: up to a happy ending right now.

944
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we thought it was yeah, because.

945
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 5: At this point we didn't know. So it's like they

946
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 5: were doing their due diligence of like, all right, if

947
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 5: this is the end of it, then let's make sure

948
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 5: we're in a position to give everyone, you know, a

949
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 5: satisfying send off. Yeah, all right movie Mama asks if,

950
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: as a parent and uncle bonus whatever, you could impart

951
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: one lesson onto the kids, what would that lesson be

952
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: and why do you think that particular lesson is the

953
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 5: most important?

954
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so huge, that's such a massive Yeah, it's

955
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: a big one.

956
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: I think mine would be something along the lines of

957
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 5: just do you you know, because I know for myself,

958
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 5: I spent so much of my life trying to just

959
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 5: figure out what I thought other people wanted me to be,

960
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 5: and as opposed to just being like, this is who

961
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 5: I am, I'm going to show up as this, And

962
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 5: I think I would have saved myself boy a lot

963
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 5: of headaches and wasted energy had someone just been like, hey, Bud,

964
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 5: you're great, You're enough.

965
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 4: Just do you Yeah? I remember, you know, getting asked

966
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: something like this when we were filming, and yeah, it's

967
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: ironic that you choose that word, rob because I remember

968
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: I remember saying it and then thinking, oh God, am

969
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: I saying that for someone? Or am I saying that

970
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: because I maybe always needed to hear it to not

971
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 4: worry so much about being someone else's definition of enough.

972
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: You know, when you're young, you don't really you don't

973
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: have anything to necessarily understand yourself up against, which is

974
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 4: sort of the point, right, there's only one you. And

975
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 4: it's interesting that in my twenties I wish I could

976
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 4: have had that, and so maybe that's why I've repeated

977
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: it into my forties. But when I think about really

978
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 4: little kids, you know what was so special for all

979
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: of us about having Jackson on set, and you know

980
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 4: now that everyone has children in their lives, it's like

981
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: my wish for them would almost be that younger version

982
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: of the same energy, which is, you're safe here and

983
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: you're seen. You can express anything, and let's figure out

984
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 4: how to express in the healthiest of ways, you know,

985
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: where they feel empowered to say what they need to

986
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: be brave, or to say the other brave thing, which

987
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: is like I don't want that. I don't know, I

988
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: don't want to try that. And yes, I might be

989
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: encouraged to at some point, like really just to not

990
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: shrink themselves, because I wonder if you had more of

991
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 4: that when you were really little, if by the time

992
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 4: you were in your twenties like we all were at

993
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: this point, you might you might not even be so

994
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 4: worried about the enoughness that we were all clearly questioning.

995
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Then that's safety is such a big it's such a

996
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: big thing. I mean, that's the thing that causes us

997
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: to make mistakes or not make mistakes, Like the fear

998
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: of making a mistake and trying to be perfect you

999
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: is because essentially we don't feel safe that we can

1000
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: just mess up and be ourselves. And I mean, I

1001
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: truly think that what you decide what you think about

1002
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: God affects everything else in your life. Everything else bleeds

1003
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: out from that fundamental place. So my advice would be

1004
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: to pursue that above everything else, Like, make decisions about

1005
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: what you believe in, what you think about that, And

1006
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: if you can find that place of safety, then everything

1007
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: feels free. You don't have to worry all the time

1008
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: about like if you're performing well enough, if you are enough,

1009
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: if you're accepted. If you are you're accepted, and you're safe.

1010
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: So everything else can just come out of a place

1011
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: of curiosity and gratitude. But if you don't make a

1012
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: decision about that, then I think there's just constant chaos.

1013
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: That's been my experience anyway, great question, movie, Mama.

1014
00:53:52,520 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's spin a wheel. Most likely to stay calm

1015
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 5: during a crisis. Immediate character answer is Dan Scott. Yeah,

1016
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 5: probably because he's the one who started the crisis, but

1017
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 5: he is definitely the eye of the storm.

1018
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's my default. I don't know how you

1019
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: guys feel when crisis things happen. It's probably from like

1020
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: childhood trauma. Like I just immediately go into like I.

1021
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: Will handle this.

1022
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: I must be in control, so I tend to settle.

1023
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: It's like go way down when there's some sort of crisis.

1024
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: How do you guys handle emergency situations?

1025
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get a similar. Everything kind of gets stripped away,

1026
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 5: like it gets pretty like nuts and bolts, just what

1027
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: need like what needs to happen, you know, I think, Yeah,

1028
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 5: I think I kind of slowed down, Which is funny

1029
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 5: because there are very small things that will happen around

1030
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: the house that I will be so tight and like

1031
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 5: worked up over, but then when something huge happens, it's

1032
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 5: like okay, X and then Y and then Z, Yeah

1033
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: it's gonna be fine.

1034
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: I'm exactly the same. It's like a noise at a

1035
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 4: pitch that is hard for me, makes me feel like

1036
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 4: someone is carving into my bones. But like there could

1037
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: be a natural disaster and I am like, got it.

1038
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 4: I can organize the team. This is what we're doing.

1039
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: You three have a job. You two have a job.

1040
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: This person's doing this. I'm gonna go do this. Everybody

1041
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: stay calm, keep your voice. And it's the weirdest thing,

1042
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: but I yeah, I don't know if that comes from,

1043
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: you know, having been a camp counselor or what. But

1044
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 4: it's like, I don't stress when something enormous is happening,

1045
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: but small, small things going wrong can like really trip up.

1046
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: Especially when it's like one after another in a day

1047
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: and they're just dumb little things. But yeah, it starts

1048
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: to great on your nerves harder.

1049
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 5: All right, next week episode No, what have we got

1050
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 5: to see? Season eight, episode seventeen, The Smoker, you get

1051
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 5: the player, you get interesting attempt at a sentence.

1052
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 4: I'm going to need some information as to how that

1053
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 4: made it.

1054
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: Give me a little context here.

1055
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, well guess what you got to tune in next

1056
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: week for that context is coming at you.

1057
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: But you have to wait.

1058
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 5: Come back, Thanks everybody, lady, see you later.

1059
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,880
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1060
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