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That's 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:29.800 the power of US Member FDIC. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.440 What kind of a show you guys putting on here today? 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:37.640 You're not interested in art? 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:38.000 Now? 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:39.839 No, Look, we're going to do this thing. We're going 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:45.000 to have a conversation from Chicago. This is Film Spotting 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.879 celebrating our twentieth year. I'm Josh Larson and I'm Adam Kempinar. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.320 Could you answer the next series of questions about blinking 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.960 your eyes? It was out fear and hesitation. Answers quickly 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:59.640 as you can sure. This week, our Best of the 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.920 Centre Conversation continues with our favorite actors and actresses of 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.399 the last twenty five years, and. 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.800 We're going to do it master style, Josh, no fear, 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.920 no hesitation, and no blinking. Also, it's a draft plus. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.160 Our Andre Tarkowski Marathon continues with nineteen seventy nine Stalker. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.200 It's all ahead starting now. If you blink, we go 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.440 back to the start on Film Spotting. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.000 This episode is brought to you by Peloton break through 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.480 the busiest time of year with the brand new Peloton 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.200 Cross Training tread Plus powered by Peloton Iq. With real 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.319 time guidance and endless ways to move, you can personalize 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.560 your workouts and train with confidence, helping you reach your 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.720 goals in less time. Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.080 and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training tread Plus 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.000 at one peloton dot com. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.720 Welcome to Film Spotting narrowing down the films of the 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.440 century to twenty five, which we did last week. Josh 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.280 was a chore picking five only five of our favorite 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.080 actors and actresses of the century. This is only going 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:12.600 to end in failure and disappointment. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:17.840 Right, failure is a strong word disappointment. I have a 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.079 theory that there's a path where we can both come 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.480 away pretty happy. Okay, there may be there may be 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.600 two names we're going to be tussling over, but I 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.120 don't know. I think we could come away not too disappointed. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:32.800 We'll have to see. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.520 We will see. I'm guessing we won't tussle too much 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.920 over nineteen seventy nine Stalker the Fourth film and our 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.200 Andre Tarkowski Marathon. We start with our draft. We're going 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.560 to make this more concise and call it the Actors 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:51.000 of the Century Draft. Josh actors, actresses all eligible. Producer 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.600 Sam hates it when I say Performers of the Century. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:55.120 Now. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.639 Definitely. The only real rule here is we only get 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.040 to choose one Chris each. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.640 Was the Chris is our first draft ever? Or was 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:05.679 that just a ranking? 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.079 It was just a ranking? Yeah, not a draft? Okay, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.440 that would have been a pretty short draft, right. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.040 A two person draft. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.560 How this is going to work, and really why we're 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.320 even doing it? Is a draft? Is pretty simple? Are 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:19.400 we trying to sports of all? 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:19.839 This thing? 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:26.080 Not really one? It ensures ten unique choices, no overlap, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.240 that's the main thing. And then it's film spotting the stakes. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.760 When I don't know if I'm going to get my 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.720 next pick, it really does change everything. That's why we're 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.920 doing it that way. Now, did you have any criteria 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.120 as you set about to prepare for this draft? 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:49.120 Josh, I did use, as has been mentioned, our best 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.800 of the twenty tens list as a starting point, But 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.240 the more I got into it, it wasn't entirely helpful 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.320 because a lot of the actors on that list. I 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.000 wouldn't say it was recency bias, but just working with 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.960 only those ten years we did that in twenty twenty, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.760 you know, it did obviously weigh heavily on people who 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:13.480 we were excited about then and are excited about moving forward, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.640 or were in twenty twenty. So here I had to 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.800 think about an entire body of work, not looking ahead 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.560 so much. Okay, it's this particular period, and I thought 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.679 about this, thinking of speaking of sports bawling. In the NBA, 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.800 you have the MVP Most Valuable Player Award, and that 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:35.040 is a regular season award. It's announced will be announced 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.400 I think within this week during the playoffs. But really 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.440 the idea is to look at what the players have 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.920 done during that season, not their playoff potential or even 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.560 how they've performed in the first week or so of 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.159 the playoffs. So I had to think about it similarly, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.880 is that body of work from two thousand to twenty 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.720 twenty five, and then this length of time twenty five 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.800 years I found for me absolutely benefited the vets, you know, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.279 those who had been doing it pretty much right from 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.920 two thousand and sustained it up through the last couple 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.760 of years. That narrowed things down pretty quickly for me 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.480 for the actors and actresses who I needed to have 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:16.800 on my team in this draft. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.160 So I also look back at my list of the 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.000 top ten actors of the Decade from twenty twenty. Of course, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.760 I also had the actors of the decade or whatever 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.120 we called it from the two thousands, the first part 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.520 of this twenty first century. We did that in twenty 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.920 ten on film Spotting, just before you joined the show 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:41.800 back in twenty twenty. My criteria was these actors and 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.960 actresses had to have at least three great performances. I 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.760 approached it this time as a mount rushmore. I needed 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.400 to envision four characters' faces that would define the period, 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.320 this entire twenty five year period for that performer, and 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.800 then I had to consider to extent that quartette of 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:08.279 faces might define the period itself. I get to have 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.360 the first choice. We didn't do anything convoluted here. We 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.719 didn't have any ping pong balls or bring in Ernst 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.560 and Young or Price Waterhouse. We just alternated. The last 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.279 time we had a draft, I think it was our 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.520 twenty twenty five movie preview, and You've got to go first. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:26.960 Yeah, yep, so. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.159 Now so I get to go. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.039 I think it's fair. I think it's fair. I do 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.279 think for our next draft we got to shake it up, though. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.320 I do like the suspense of seeing who's gonna get 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.440 especially again seeing what happened in the NBA, the chaos 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.279 that was unleashed. We always want more chaos on this show, Adam, 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.919 so moving forward, we'll have to go back to that. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.520 But yeah, for tonight, first pick goes to you. It's 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.600 only fair. I think I know where you're gonna go. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.040 But again, here's where the strategy comes into play, because 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.039 I honestly think there are only two or maybe three 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.760 names we both would love to have on our team, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.960 and are you going to try to snatch one of 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.720 those or are you just gonna claim who you absolutely 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.200 have to have? Not taken any. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:15.440 Risks here, I ended up going the latter route because 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.480 I really couldn't figure you out, Josh, I didn't have 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.600 enough intel to go on. As you noted, yes, that 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.680 list back in twenty twenty is somewhat helpful, but once 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.920 you add in not only the past four years, you 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.240 add in the first part of this quarter century, it 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.440 really does change the game. And I guess I didn't 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.440 feel like I had a really strong sense of who 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:45.480 your top one, two three performers of the past twenty 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.040 five years were, and so I stopped overthinking it and 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:53.000 decided to go with my heart. I'm picking who is 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:57.760 genuinely my number one choice, even though I feel like 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.600 he wouldn't have been your number one choice, and from 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:06.680 a strategic standpoint, I'm probably misplaying it. You mention that 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.160 you look back and you didn't really consider at all 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.800 moving forward whether or not these performers would be in 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.480 our lives, what kind of performances they might give us 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.520 in the future. Sadly, that's very much the case with 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:23.520 my number one choice. I am going with Philip Seymour 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:28.360 oh oh. Recently, just a day or two ago, Josh 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.920 got an email from a listener, Nate Dean, who said, Adam, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.840 I can't believe you have William Miller as your profile 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.880 pick on Letterboxed, but failed to put Almost Famous in 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.720 your top twenty five films of the century. Almost Famous 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.640 is my favorite film of all time, So I'm kind 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.880 of offended. Please change your profile pick, Nate. I hear you, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.840 I feel you. I will not change my profile pick. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.479 It has been my profile pick since profile picks existed, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.640 really in the wake of me seeing Almost Famous originally 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.319 in theaters back in two thousand and one. To try 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.440 to make up for it a little bit here, Philip 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.360 Seymour Hoffman was my number two actor of the two 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.480 thousands on that list in twenty ten. And Josh, even 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.360 though this is how great Philip Seymore Hoffman is, even 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.080 though we lost him in twenty fourteen, I do believe 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.800 he's still worthy of the number one choice. Here's the 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:24.520 Mount Rushmore Lancaster Dodd the Master in twenty twenty, I 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.200 suggested that that processing scene which we heard at the 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.960 top of the show was maybe the scene of the 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:35.120 decade him and jauquein in Phoenix, number two, Capodi in Capodi, 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.360 for which he won the Oscar. Nate. Here it is 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.199 number three on the Mount Rushmore. A supporting turn Lester 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.880 Bangs and Almost Famous, and then rounding out the mount Rushmore, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.600 I'm gonna go with Caden Coutard from Sinec to Key, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.960 New York. And if you want more lead performances, Josh, great, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.160 how about Lamette's Before the Devil Knows You're Dead? Opposite 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.920 Ethan Hawk A Most Wanted Man is a really good film. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.720 I don't love this Savages or Doubt, but I have 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.600 nothing against Philip Seymore Hoffman's performances in either. And the 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.720 thing about Philip Seamore Hoffman, and we talked about this 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.400 back when we paid tribute to him after his passing. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.440 You can talk about those lead performances, but it's so 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.280 much fun to talk about how good he is in 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:26.880 his supporting turns like Spike Lee's twenty fifth Hour, Your Beloved, Punch, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.240 Drunk Love, mattress Man, Dean Trumpele. How memorable is he there? 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.600 How much of a memorable scoundrel is he even in 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.960 something like Red Dragon as Freddie Lownds gust In Charlie 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.600 Wilson's War. I mean, it's a mostly forgettable movie, but 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.680 he's not forgettable. I still get served scenes from that 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:49.160 movie occasionally on Instagram, and I watch them every time 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.880 if they're a scene that Philip Seymour Hoffman is in, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.120 and then he even brings the heat to something like 0:10:56.120 --> 0:11:01.280 the Hunger Games franchise or another franchise, The Baddie in 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.240 Mission Impossible three, it. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.640 Was you in the bathroom, and you're gonna tell us everything, 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.440 every buyer, you've worked with, every organization, What the hell 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:11.040 is your name? 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.600 Names? Contacts, and Victory listens. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.199 My wife, girlfriend, it's up. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.040 To you had his ghost, he does, you know what 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:26.040 I'm gonna do next. I'm gonna find her, whoever she is. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.720 I'm gonna find her, and I'm gonna hurt her. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.000 I'm gonna hurt her. Josh, I watched that scene again today, 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.360 just trying to put my finger on what Hoffman is 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.160 doing there that makes it so special, that makes it 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.800 something you do remember that exact line reading. It's it's 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.760 something about the nonchalance. It's something about even a hint 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.040 of petulance. It's like he can't believe this guy. He 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.880 keeps asking Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise is Ethan hunt. What's 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.920 your name? It's like he just can't believe this guy 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.040 has the audacity to question him to capture him, to 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.000 tie him up like this, and he is sure he 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.440 is going to pay him back for this. It's not 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:14.160 the performance or the movie that will define Filtzeymour Hoffman's 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.960 career or this period, but it is one I love. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.160 I'm gonna ask you all more time. What's your name? 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:19.920 What is your rats? 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:20.520 Who are you? 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.439 Who's the Meyer? You don't have any idea what that 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.360 was going on here? And he saw what I did. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.400 You a little blond friend at the factory, right, Oh 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:30.360 that was nothing. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:31.079 That was fun. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:33.800 Fun. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.240 I'm glad you got who you really wanted. He was 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.000 not at risk, however, I did. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:40.840 I had a feeling. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.800 I did look at his filmography quite closely. Definitely an 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.520 honorable mention. I understand the pick. For me, it all 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.520 came down to the pre twenty ten work because as 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.800 much as I admire what he does in The Master 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.800 and yeah, yeah, like you said, very good in Hunger Games, 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.520 that just wasn't enough for me to have him on 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.439 my previous list. So the titles that gave me pause 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.679 among the ones you mentioned where I thought, ooh, I've 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.679 really got to think about this. Ah yes, almost famous, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:16.920 absolutely punched drunk love, and probably oh before the devil 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.600 knows your dead for sure. Those three are the ones 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.240 that almost pushed him into my consideration to be on 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:29.000 my board, but decided I had other performers I preferred. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:35.320 And you've now put me in a difficult but enviable 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.040 position because you're first to the opportunity to take my 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.319 first choice as you did, or really grab the person. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.120 There's one person who I think we both want. Okay, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.520 I do not have this person in the first slot 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.480 on my draft board. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:53.360 Uh huh. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.680 So I realize if I take the person I need, 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:02.360 I'm going to give you your one and two. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.320 And I don't know quite frankly which option i'd rather 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.520 have you choose at this point. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.600 You know what I'm I'm going to follow you following 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:11.960 your heart, Adam. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.520 Okay, and I'm going to go put a sweet episode 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.240 with the actor who. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.280 I have ranked first. It was the person who when 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.680 I realized we were doing this expanse this twenty five years, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.400 I thought, I've got to check out the filmography because 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:32.800 I bet it is packed. And though it wasn't necessarily 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.880 someone I had on the previous list or very high, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.960 I don't think I had on the list. I just 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.120 had a feeling that if you add those ten years 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.800 to what has been done in the past fifteen, you're 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.040 going to have a powerhouse. And you do. You have 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:52.080 Kate Blanchett, had to have Kate Blanchett. Again. It was 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.840 the research that confirmed it. This is not black bag 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:00.920 recency bias. Look at this track record and look at 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.400 this range. This is the thing with her tour to 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.720 fourth dramas that I would argue she carried on her 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:12.560 back like she made the movie Blue Jasmine. Where do 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.040 you Go, Bernadette. People probably forget that one, but she 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.720 is a force in that one. And then Tar, she 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.440 is Tar, so you have that category also. I think 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.440 this is how she came to be known as this 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.280 arresting figure in historical dramas or period pieces. I think 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.280 you could put Carol in this category. The Aviator, The 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.960 Good German, speaking of Sodaberg, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.040 which I like more than most people, Nightmare Alley Falls here, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.920 and Elizabeth her breakout doesn't fit our timeframe, but Elizabeth 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.760 the Golden Age does, and she is different in that film, 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.320 but equally impressive. Kate Blanchett can also do sci fi 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.200 and fantasy. She can be Galadriel in Lord of the Rings. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.640 She can be the step mother in Cinderella. I love 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.880 that performance. And of course Hella in Thor Ragnarok phsy 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.600 fun you could put Thor Ragnarok in that category. But 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.440 I'm thinking more here about Ocean's Eight, The Life Aquatic 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.720 with Steve Zazou, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.560 Crystal Skull. Sure, why not? I like that movie more 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.960 than most people, and she's amusing it, she is. And 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.400 then here's the topper. Is all of that are things 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:29.200 you can envision that is what a great actor would 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.880 do performances like these, Maybe not one that'd be a 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.560 lot task of one. She does that, then she gives 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.920 us something that I can only call experimental her Bob Dylan, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:39.840 and I'm not there. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.080 Well, is it your belief then that folk music has 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.960 a chance failed to achieve its goals with the Negro 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:46.400 calls or the cause of peace? 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.560 You know, saying cause of peace, it's just like saying 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.680 it's like a hunk of butter. You know, I don't 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.400 know how you can listen to anybody who wants you 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.320 to believe is dedicated to the hunk and. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:16:59.720 Not the butter. 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:01.360 I'm not sure I thought that. 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.879 You know, I didn't come out of some cereal box. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:12.199 This is like, I mean, irreproachable, and the range, the 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.399 vastness of it, the consistency of it, the fact that 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.000 she was doing this in the first couple of years 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.280 of this century. An just dropped black bag on us. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.920 I had to take her at number one. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.159 Yeah, I had her at number five, and depending on 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.520 how this shook out, it wasn't a lock that I 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.800 would take her if she was still there, because I've 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.080 got some amazing choices right behind her. But the Mount 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:39.840 rushmore Tar, of course, Carol, and I was wondering when 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.960 you were going to get to it. Jude Quinn, I'm 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.400 not there. I'm not sure if you said this one 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.359 or not. I don't love this Woody Allen film. But Jasmine, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:49.760 did you say Blue Jasmine? 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.119 She's in that category where she carries the movie, she 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:53.880 makes the movie, right, she does. 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.240 That's the top four right there. But I also seriously 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.240 considered putting in her performance as Daisy in the Curious 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.320 Case of Benjamin Button as Lilith Ritter in Nightmare. Ali. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.280 I love that movie. I think it made my top 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.159 ten of that year, and you mentioned a few others, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.960 like the Life of Quatack, like Lord of the Rings, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.159 Where'd you go? Bernadette? And I'm not sure if you 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.240 mentioned this one either, but she's really good in notes 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.880 on a scandal as well. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:18.960 What I don't think I've seen. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:24.600 Yeah, so Kate Blanchette is a fantastic choice. She is 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.439 off the board. The pick does come back to me. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.920 Now I have to decide whether or not to take 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.159 the person that I have at number two? Do we 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.399 do we keep the sweet sentiment going here, Josh? Do 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.360 we continue to play nice? Or do I take the 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:46.000 person that I think you think that we both want. 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.960 And you're about to speak, go ahead. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.680 I'm not going to say anything, Okay, I don't want to. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.199 I don't want to. I don't want to nudge you 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:54.800 either way. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.720 So here's the thing. The person that right now I 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:04.520 have at number two is just ahead of the person 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.560 I think you think we think we want, and that 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.520 person at number three I had at number one at 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.800 various points throughout my day. So I really don't feel 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:21.560 like I'm being that rude if I take this person 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.280 at number two instead, and I'm going to add to 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.080 my reasoning that I kind of have a feeling that 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.600 my number two choice may not be in your top five, 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:38.560 So I have to go with my number two pick 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:45.639 someone I called back in twenty twenty, the Chameleon Collaborator 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.080 till the Swinton. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:55.639 Ahah proceed, not the pick I have till the I 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.760 also had her on my top tip okay, but not 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.440 the one. But here she is an honorable mention. Wow, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.160 and I can explain why, but definitely gave her consideration. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.960 Go ahead. I think it's a completely reasonable pick. How 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.200 did she stick around for you? 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:10.479 So? 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.640 The Mount Rushmore is so hard because there's so many 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.720 movies and so many good performances. You almost have to 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:21.360 break it up. In terms of directors collaborators that she's 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.560 worked with. You've got the Wes Anderson Side, Asteroid City, 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.680 French Dispatch, Grand Budapest, Moonrise, Kingdom, Isle of Dogs. You've 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.600 got the Luca Guardanino movies like I Am Love and 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:35.240 a Bigger Splash Suspiria. Not a huge fan, really like 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.000 her in that film, the Jim Jarmish films like Limits 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.920 of Control, The Dead Don't Die, only Lovers Left Alive. 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.360 As I say, those three titles. I'm not totally sure. 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.399 I actually have seen the limits of Control, so we 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.640 can strike that. But I have seen only Lovers Left 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.320 Alive and the Dead Don't Die. And they're both wonderful films. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:57.240 The Coen Brothers Hail Caesar, a movie we both like, 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:01.080 You love. I like quite a bit, really appreciate her 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.080 in Burn after reading. Add to that the Bong June 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.800 Hoe performances in Oakja Snow Piercer, her collaborations with Joanna 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.080 Hogg in Eternal Daughter and The Souvenir Parts one and two. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.720 And then, of course, if she hasn't made enough of 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.439 a mark on the last twenty five years, you have 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:24.560 her appearing and performing quite well in various MCU installments. 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.560 She's also so great. And how about these titles, Josh, 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.399 I haven't even said yet. The David Fincher film The Killer. 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.520 We need to talk about Kevin the Deep End from 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.119 two thousand and one, the movie she won an Oscar 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:41.600 for Best Supporting Actress. Michael Clayton. So I'm gonna have 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.520 a little bit of a Maya culpa here. Michael Clayton 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:49.040 didn't make Madness, didn't even make the shortlists for Madness 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.359 probably should have. It's a movie that a lot of 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:56.639 people really revere, and I do love her performance in 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.000 that film. I don't think it's a matter of going 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.520 against type necessarily because I don't think Tilda Swinton has 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.680 a title. You can you can look at a movie 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.280 like The Deep End, where she plays a mom, an 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.840 everyday mom trying to protect her son. In something like 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.200 We Need to Talk About Kevin, she's a mom trying 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.160 to figure out how to live with her son. She 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:23.600 does play quote unquote normal characters in both of those cases, 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:25.680