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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, we are back on the normal and the

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Speaker 1: I am Mary Cathern.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Carol Markowitz. How's it going, Mary Catherine?

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Speaker 1: It's all right.

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Speaker 3: I have like truly transitioned to old lady Mother's day.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what do I want? I want socks.

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Speaker 3: I want really nice, really nice socks, and so I

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Speaker 4: I love it. I didn't even know they make really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta.

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Speaker 3: You gotta up your game at some point to the

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Speaker 3: to the good stuff. So I'm going full bombus and features.

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Speaker 3: So none of this, None of these departments store target

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Speaker 1: Right, right, you're fancy now, I'm fancy. Now. I deserve it.

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Speaker 2: Mine is like a ten pack from Amazon, and my

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Speaker 1: I do. See.

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Speaker 3: This is why, this is why I upgraded, because I

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Speaker 1: And I was like, you gotta upgrade me to whatever

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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has overturned a lower court ruling that

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Speaker 2: had said that the Trump administration had to allow transgender

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Speaker 2: people into the military. The Supreme Court said, no, they don't.

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Speaker 2: The lower court was a three judge panel and it

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Speaker 2: So they all were against the Commander in chief having

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Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court said no, actually, no, the president

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Speaker 4: Say on that. People are predictably losing their minds.

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Speaker 2: CNN compared it to Trump possibly banning black people from

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Speaker 2: the military, but.

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Speaker 4: That's obviously absurd.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who don't qualify for military service,

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Speaker 2: individuals with felony convictions, certain medical conditions, history of drug use.

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Speaker 4: All of that.

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Speaker 2: You could have dental problems and not be allowed into

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Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth Defense Department and the President are to have

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Speaker 2: a cohesive military and to have a strong military, and

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Speaker 2: they didn't feel that having transgender people serve in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the military and the Commander in Chief

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Speaker 1: Standards for entrance to the military. I just this one

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Speaker 3: It's like, right, this is just a practical way of

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Speaker 3: that the medical, surgical, and mental health constraints on individuals

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Speaker 3: symptoms with gender dysphoria are incompatible with the high mental

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Speaker 3: There's the outlay for medical care for those who have

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Speaker 3: specifically they've specifically mentioned, like people who've had medical intervention,

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Speaker 3: that care must continue, exactly, and at that point it

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Speaker 2: And the thing is that a lot of this comes

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Speaker 2: But discriminating by gender identity is something that just makes

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Speaker 3: The rules there's an internal contradiction here, which is that

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Speaker 4: That's right. So I think the Supreme Court did the

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Speaker 2: It was again again according to ideological lines, which I

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Speaker 3: I think this is what's frustrating about courts and to some,

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Speaker 3: like he Shouldn't he shouldn't have to ask Permissions act

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Speaker 1: Thing that's part of their.

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Speaker 2: Job, right it's right there in his title as commander in.

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Speaker 4: Crackdown this can't.

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Speaker 2: Continue we can't continue to have these kinds of riots

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Speaker 3: Well and the problem is that if these students are

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