1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: dot Com. Here we go, Here we go on the 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Giants Mobile. Let him, Let's go, part of the Giants 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: podcast Network. Welcome to another edition of the Giants Huttle podcast, 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: brought you by PSC and G Energy Efficiency for game 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: time and anytime, visit PSEG dot com, slash Giants for discounts, 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: rebase and all my energy assessments. John schmu called Totino 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: and Jim Miller from Moving the Chains on sirius XM 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: NFL Radio every weekday from three to seven. Him and 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Pat Kurwin talk everything NFL, and he's gonna talk some 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Giants with us right now. Jim, what's going on then? 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: How great, gentlemen, Thanks for having me. Let's talk g man. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: We should also say former Giants quarterbacks a cup of coffee. 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I blew up my hip. So Tom Coughlin, you can't 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: make the club and the tub, you know what I mean? 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: I remember very well. Yeah, Tom did not have much 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: patience for injuries. I said, Tom, I can't help you now, 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: but if you give me six weeks I might be 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: able to help them. No, Jim, I signed you to 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: help Eli now, so I blew up my hip and 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the basically end of my career. That was a quick 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: spring right there. Yeah, it was a quick spring. All right. Well, 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: and we're here to talk about some quarterbacks, so let's 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: stow where Daniel Jones Jim, I know, obviously you watch 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: tape on these guys. You watch a lot of giants 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: this year. Your take on the progress he made this year, 27 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: where he's at, what the next step could be, and 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about the contract situation, you can, 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: but I'm just really interested on your take on what 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: he's done on the flat. I think, certainly he's coming 31 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: off his best year. You know, he cut down his turnovers. 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: It's his most productive year. I thought Brian Dable, and 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: I've spent time with Brian before in New England, did 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: a great job utilizing him. You know, certainly it's the 35 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: first year of a new head coach and he wants 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: to build a culture and lay a foundation all the 37 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: cliches that we talk about. And I thought Daniel Jones responded, 38 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, his athleticism. I think people don't realize how 39 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: good of an athlete he is at moving the football 40 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: with his legs. We know there was an issue at 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver there, so he probably didn't have the most 42 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: around him. But I think for him to for him 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: to execute the offense in the style of offense the 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: Giants needed to win. He was effective in doing that 45 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: and obviously, you know what a great win against Minnesota. 46 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: I mean that truly was a nice finish to the season. 47 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I thought for Daniel Jones. You know, when Mike Kafka 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: was named the offensive coordinator, there was a lot of 49 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: debate amongst people in New York as to who's going 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: to call the plays. Dabele was named head coach. He 51 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: called the plays in Buffalo, he should be the guy. 52 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: I was always in the camp that the head coach 53 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: should not call the plays, he should have coordinators do it. 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Now that's the personal preference. Were you surprised and as 55 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: you watched the Giants this year, did you see some 56 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: of the Calfka Kansas City influence in what was going on? Yeah? 57 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I did. I think they you know, they're you know, 58 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: utilize the offense to for his skill sets because he 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: is a better athlete. The bootlegs. Like I watched him 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: against the Bears. I mean, they killed the Bears with 61 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: the boot like Bears couldn't stop them, you know, when 62 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: they played the Bears, and uh, you know, so I 63 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: thought the offense was geared towards him. And I think 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Brian Dable recognizes being with the guy. Being with a 65 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: guy like Bill Belichick in places that he's been, it 66 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: does command a lot of your time. You know, it's 67 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: not just you know, you don't have the time dedicated 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: to do the heavy lifting to you know, coordinating and 69 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: putting in game plans and all that. Even my time 70 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: in New England, Bill Belichick ran the quarterback meeting rooms, 71 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: but still that his secretary was coming in every five minutes. 72 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Open up the door. It's an away game. What are 73 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: we serving on the plane? A man ham and cheese 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: and we're back to watching. All right, coach, this guy's 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: available or do you want to sign him? Yes, sign him? 76 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: We're back to the tape. And so you're responsible for 77 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: a lot of things that cross your desk, and it's 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, and when you're doing everything in terms of 79 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: game plans and installing and coaching, that takes a lot 80 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: of your time and it takes away from other areas 81 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: of your team. And I think Brian and his experiences 82 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: recognize that, and so he wanted to coach the whole 83 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: team do it right for the Giants because they've they've 84 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: struggled for quite some time now, and I think he 85 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: wants to do it the right way. Yeah, And how 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: do you then think the best way is to build 87 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: out this roster around Daniel to help him. Does it 88 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: have to be a wide receiver first? Maybe it's a 89 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: really good receiving tenant or do you think it's the 90 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: offensive line? What do you think the priority orders should 91 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: be here? So Daniel can take that next step from 92 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: being that a fishing guy you get along with his legs, 93 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: but not that high level of the production to kind 94 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: of add that high level production to his cash. Yeah, well, 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it may not be a sexy 96 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: pick where the Giants are picking. You know, I think 97 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: twenty five first round could be a center, you know, 98 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: because the Giants need a center. You know. I think 99 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: they've now done a nice job. You know, Andrews worked 100 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: out at the left tackle. You got big Evan Neil 101 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: on the right. Center is a position. Certainly there's some 102 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: free agents out there, but there's two guys in my 103 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: opinion that'll probably go the first round is that John 104 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Michael Schmitch from the Minnesota Gophers and Cody Mock keep 105 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: your eye on him, the kids from North Dakoda State 106 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: Center in Mobile. Yep, he played all he can play 107 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: all five positions, and I think a lot of people 108 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: do think that he will go in the first round. 109 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: And I'm big on the trenches. I think it's important. 110 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: You look at the teams that we're in the Super 111 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Bowl this year, they're both very good in the trenches. 112 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: And you know from Creed Humphrey and how the offensive 113 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: line was structured for Kansas City, and I would say 114 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: the same thing about Philadelphia. I think it starts there 115 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: because you can always get good skilled position players like 116 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: receiver later in the draft. We've seen fifth rounders, you know, 117 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: become starters as rookies and are productive, you know, And 118 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: so I think those guys will always be there where 119 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: the Giants can still fulfill all those needs. Yeah. Always 120 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: old school with it beginning in the trenches. Gem I 121 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: feel the same way now on the defensive line, though 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: behind Dexter Lawrence and Leonard Williams, the depth kind of 123 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: gets a little sketchy. How I primitive is it that 124 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: they address that, knowing that they also have a starting 125 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: needs at inside linebacker and probably could use somebody else 126 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: in the secondary too. Well. I think certainly they're gonna 127 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: want to resign their own. I would think Julian Love 128 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: at safety is one guy they probably will want to resign. 129 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: But I'm with you to get another third rotation in 130 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: there to help out Lawrence, to help out Williams. You 131 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: need another guy in there that can be stout. I 132 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: love the pass rushers of the Giants. They're young there 133 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: with Ojulari and and obviously with Cavon Thibadeau and what 134 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to do. It's those guys 135 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: I think are really good fits. But I agree with 136 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you that linebacker. I think you want some good stud 137 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: young linebackers that can run, fly to the football, and 138 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: there's guys that are available in this draft. You know, here, 139 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: I interviewed the kid today that Ivan Pace from Cincinnati 140 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: down immobile. Man. There is not one running back that 141 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: could block him. That guy has got and he's not 142 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: the biggest guy now, you know Here's he's only about 143 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: a little over five ten. But I'll tell you what, man, 144 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: when that likes come on and it's time to play. 145 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: That guy is like the Tasmanian devil out there with 146 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: how he plays. And so there's some good linebackers in 147 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: this draft. Cool. How do you view linebackers now, though, Jim? 148 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Are you happy with that? I mean, I've talked to 149 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: three of the guys that took to Dian Henley today 150 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: that I played two thirty one, you know, and you 151 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: know they look like safeties when you see them physically. Yeah, 152 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: So do you worry about out the guy now that 153 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: can play all three downs? Do you specialize the position? Okay, well, 154 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: in running downs, I want this guy. Then I'm passing downs. 155 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I want a guy that can rusher. Maybe i'd play 156 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: a safety at linebacker. How much of a specialized position 157 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: is that? And I guess then to the point, if 158 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: you can find a guy that can actually play all 159 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: three downs, how does that elevate your DFA. Yeah, I 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: think that's a key you know here at the like today, 161 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: I interviewed the young man from Iowa, Jack Campbell. Go 162 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: look at him. He's got like Erlaker. He looks, yes, yeah, right, yeah, 163 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: six foot five, just like Erlacker. Comes in about two 164 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: forty eight to forty six. He said, he's played as 165 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: high as two fifty five, and he's a big guy. 166 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and I just remember that when I played 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: with Erlaker. You know, we tried Brian at a strong 168 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: side linebacker and he couldn't he couldn't figure out tight 169 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: end release techniques, and so they threw him at Barry 170 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: Minner got hurt. They threw Erlacker at Mike, and a 171 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: star was born. His first game, he had fourteen tackles 172 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: and he's now a Hall of Famer. But he was 173 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: a safety in college, right They wanted him to be 174 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: strong side, and then he ended up as a middle backer. 175 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I think that that Jack Campbell, he can be both 176 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: a Sam and a Mike, and I think probably as 177 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: natural would be a Mike because he can cover, he 178 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: can stuff the run on first and second downs. And 179 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: that's a big linebacker who can run, who can play 180 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: all three downs. Let me stick with defense, but ask 181 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: it from a different perspective. You played quarterback in this 182 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: league for a number of years, Jim. When you look 183 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: at a Wink Martindale defense, We've talked about some of 184 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: the soft spots maybe, but yet it was an effective 185 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: enough defense in the red zone and help the Giants 186 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. What is it about Winks defense besides 187 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: his blitz happy tendencies that makes it a difficult deal 188 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: for a quarterback? Yeah, I think, well, you always got 189 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: to be on your toes because, like you said, you 190 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: gotta be ready for the blitz, and he can bring 191 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: all types of exotic blizzes. Certainly he's known for the 192 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: all out blitz, which he runs as kind of has 193 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: got to have it down type of play that he's 194 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: going to go to what his work best for him. 195 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: But you got to diagnose it. It It can put a 196 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on young quarterbacks that maybe don't know 197 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: they're detections where you can free up a guy and 198 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: get some turnover friendly plays like strip sack fumble when 199 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: the guy comes free and the protection isn't as solid 200 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: as what it should be and they create a lot 201 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: of turnovers. That's been the history of Don Martindale and 202 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: he's had a ton of success as a quarterback. Jim, 203 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: how much more valuable has that receiving tight end become 204 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: an NFL offenses today? Is it almost as value if 205 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 1: not more valuable to have a tight end? Again, I 206 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: don't want to compare people to Travis Kelcey. But to 207 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: have that type of weapon in the receiving game at 208 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: tight end compared to focusing on say wide receiver is 209 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: homes just how this NFL game has evolved. Yeah, I 210 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: think you know and Dabeles ones who has experienced it obviously. 211 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: You know when they were in New England with Grenkowski 212 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: and they had the young man who had the unfortunate 213 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: Hernando had the unfortunate incident off the field, they had 214 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: a good twelve personnel package where one guy's a mismatch 215 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: because he's so big and he can run and you 216 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: can block, and then Hernandez was kind of the mobile 217 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: guy that could could do everything. And I think that's 218 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: a good start to structure an offensive. Plus what two 219 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: tight ends do. It basically shows you the strength defensively. 220 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: They're going to roll down one safety to the strength 221 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: of where your tight ends are or which they view 222 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: as the strength, and it cleans up a lot of 223 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: your reads. So it gives you a lot of clues 224 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: as a quarterback where to go with the football. Brian 225 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: Dables experienced that, and that's another area that is really 226 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: deep in this draft. From Luke Musgrave, who's that guy 227 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: to me probably will be the first tight end taken 228 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: of how he ran down there, and we'll be he 229 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: clocked over twenty miles per hour. That's rare to have 230 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: tight ends. But you've got other guys, the kid from Latu, 231 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: from Alabama. But this is a very deep tight end class, 232 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: and I agree with you. Teams are always trying to 233 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: find those mismatches against linebackers, against safeties. A lot of 234 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: teams will bring in nickel guys now to cover a 235 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: tight end, and it's a struggle, especially with the guys 236 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: in the college game today because they can flat out 237 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: running spread offenses. Big picture final question for me, Jim, 238 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: you were a player in this league and now they're 239 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: talking about Demorris Smith when the NFLPA saying, am, maybe 240 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: we shouldn't do to combine anymore. Maybe these underwear Olympics 241 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: just aren't worth what they're supposed to be. People can 242 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: watch the film, they can watch the games. What is 243 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: your take on the future of how this entire personnel 244 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: selection process is going to turn out? Well? I just 245 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: know for me, when I experienced the combine in ninety four, 246 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: I viewed it as a great opportunity. You know, it 247 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: is a job interview and football, your body is your resume. 248 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: You know, there's only certain things that teams can do 249 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: when they're going to invest millions of dollars into players. 250 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: You know that they want to play for their team 251 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: and represent their organization. And it's like any other job interview, right, 252 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: you want people to be accountable, reliable, productive when you 253 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: have them come to work with you. And that's all 254 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: this is. Damore Smith had to interview to be the 255 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: executive director of the NFLPA. He went through a job interview, right, 256 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: That's all this is. So you know, I'm I'm not 257 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: a big fan of those comments of him because I 258 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: think for a lot of players, especially myself, it really 259 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: prepared me to how to be a professional, how to 260 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: conduct myself into interviews, how to represent myself where where 261 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: my potential future employer wanted me to be on their team. 262 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: And I thought it was a great benefit to me. 263 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: And I love to compete, and I think when you 264 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: come here to the combine, you have that ability to 265 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: go out there and compete. And all the teams they're 266 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: trying to do is get the measurements that they know 267 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: are good indicators over history that they're going to make 268 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the selections that they're going to. Man, that's why I 269 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, Jim. This is awesome man, Thank 270 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: you so much for the time. Appreciate you, Jim. I'm 271 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: moving to Chain Serious SMNFL Radio every weekday three to seven. 272 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: Make sure you go check it out in some bonus 273 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: weekend episodes two by the way, don't feel forget about those. 274 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time with the Giants Little Podcast. 275 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: See you later.