WEBVTT - Interview with the Vampire: The Movies! 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:08.119 Hello, this podcast will contain spoilers for the very not 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:13.800 recent movies, interview with a vampire and Queen of the 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.680 dumed so invite us in to watch those films with 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.480 you before you listen to this podcast. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.120 Hello. My name is Rosie Knight and Angel Money, and 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:43.239 welcome back to. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:49.120 Spooooooky xtra Vision, the podcast where we dive deep into 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.080 your favorite spooky shows, spooky movies, spooky comics, and spooky 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:53.760 pop culture. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.040 We're here at iHeart Podcasts where we bring you two 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.600 action packed episodes and at the moment very scary episodes 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.160 every Tuesday and Thursday. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.640 In today's episode, first up in the Airlock, we're doing 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.280 a deep dive and interview with a vampire. Oh and 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.360 clud that's right, the an rights classics and their cinema journeys. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.479 We're exploring them. Then we're headed to the back matter 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.840 to discuss our favorite vampire movie of all time. This 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.920 was not easy, y'all. Eliminations had to be made and 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:26.640 it was painful. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.520 Will I embarrass myself with an answer to that? Perhaps? 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:37.080 Who knows? But first on previously, why do we love vampires? Joelle? 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.960 Okay, there's a lot of reasons. I think if we're 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.479 being honest. If I'm being honest, the number one reasons 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:51.080 they're sexy vampires. They're so angry and going very hot. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.920 They willlament everything they're suffering. And I think as a 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:01.120 young lady getting into the horrors, I was like, who 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.920 are these bcs that are not disgusting to look at it? 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:05.720 Because a lot of monsters are gross and I don't 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:06.320 too gross. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:06.960 Uh. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:11.640 And then also you're upset. You have deep wells of emotion. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.560 Boys don't have emotions. This is crazy, and you live forever, 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.040 you don't have to die. Wow, I mean a full 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.120 package here. Why do you love vampires? What was the thing? 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:22.560 Looked you? 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:23.079 Yeah? 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.919 I just think that you're right. I think there's something 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:29.080 about the nature of like pushing our boundaries. But like 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.520 there's something about a guy who's all he wants to 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.840 do is kill you, but he won't kill you because 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.400 he loves you. You know. That's the nature of like 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:43.000 every so very toxic. Can I just say I'm just 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:44.600 I just want to say that I'm not condoning that 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.920 mindset from a vampire. But yeah, I think it's like, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.960 I just think it's also a very easy access point 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.560 for horror, because I was just thinking about how when 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.200 you're a kid and you can't necessarily like get a 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.799 scary movie for the video store like when we were young, 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.720 because your parents are like that's too scary, or they're 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.640 just like, I want to watch something else. Russell Kuro 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.400 and Gladiator. We can go to the library at our 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:11.960 school as it was for us kids. Now I can 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.080 just read them online. They can, they can get them online. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.079 But like you can read Dracula. You know, you can 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:21.400 read Bram Stoker's Dracula, and it's a classic, so it's 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:25.360 actually okay that, yes, you're reading it even though it's scary. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.959 You're proud of you repeating it. You're like, this is film. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.600 Yeah, uh huh. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.720 It's mildly traumatic. And they're like, but look at you reading. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.720 I know, I'm so glad you're reading this horrifying book. Uh. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.120 And then like you know, there are other ones, like 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:45.160 obviously like car Miller, like another classic that kind of 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.640 has really pushed the idea of like female vampiism and 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.920 the kind of sexiness and the I think another thing 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.840 as well, probably when you're a teenager, is like the 0:03:54.920 --> 0:04:00.880 sexual fluidity of a vampire, where it's like vampires. Dracula's 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.960 like hot wives are gonna like try and have a 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.760 threesome with you, but also Dracula obviously fancies you. Jonathan Harker, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.120 you know, there's like those levels to it that I 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.320 think are exciting and appealing, and well, not only. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.360 Are they very queer, but they're very Victorian. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.159 Yes, yes, oh my gosh, so Gothic. And like there's 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.440 this quote from Belagosi where he's like, it is women 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.640 who love horror, who gloat over it and feed on it, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.840 are nourished by it, shudder and cling and cry out 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.279 and come back for more. And I'm like, you know what, Bella, 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:37.200 you are right, there's something about horror that entices us, 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.560 but that also like makes us feel brave and that 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.320 we're trying to discover a new space. And I think 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.880 that vampires encompass all of that. And also I think 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.800 we've been blessed with a lot of really fantastic like 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.799 vampire cinema. So I think once you discover a vampire 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.520 in a book, or you discover the concept of a 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.839 vampire in some folklore, or just it's something that's perennially 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.320 been there as a kid, then when you start watching 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.359 the movies, like the movies we're going to talk about today, 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.640 but also movies like Bramsto because Dracula and Nosferatu and 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.400 The Lost Boys and Twilight and what we do in 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:15.320 the Shadows, Like, vampires have kind of transcended being a 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.240 genre and are now in every other genre. And I 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.240 think that also means that there's a lot of different 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.479 stuff for different kinds of vampire fans. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.000 Yeah, you can find them in your horror, you can 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.440 find them in your yeah, your science fiction, your fantasy, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:35.640 your histories, your romances, your romantic comedies, your straight vampire 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.480 comedy is like it's for kids, it's for adults, it's 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.960 for like high brow literature, and it can be low brow. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:45.560 Like they're totally flexible creatures, and like the Victorians of 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.719 it all, I think we really love Victorian romance. We 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.640 look at the endearing nature of pride and prejudice, the 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:56.159 deep exploration of feelings without the societal ability to share 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.719 them express them howardly creates a lot, which I think 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.279 is a key component to romance. And so like vampires 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.720 are just constantly feeding, like they are creatures have to 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.080 keep their whole entire identities secret, which I think for 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:12.680 teenagers is very relatable. It's like I definitely got it. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.039 I mean, listen, we are of the Twilight generation, so 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.160 it's no use to vampires are hidden hard between like 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.000 twelve and twenty. And I was like, I think that 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:26.479 there's really like an element of that Victorian nature of romanticism. Also, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.560 like the heightened danger and all the reasons we talked 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.239 about why we love horror really apply to these beautiful 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.160 creatures who might potentially kill you. Again, men are terrifying, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.599 Thus vampires, and then I think death, Like you know, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.200 vampires come, they're born. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.279 Well that that also might be why it appeals totally. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.279 I mean they come out. If you think about Victorian era, 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.000 you're dealing with a lot of plagues. There's a lot 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.360 of people looking pale and close to death, and they're 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.160 too young to die, and so that's sort of the 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.640 era in which vampires are born. And so if you 0:06:55.760 --> 0:07:00.000 are starting to explore mortality and what that means for you, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.360 I think vampires are a way of sort of like 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.520 skirting that like, oh my gosh, it's gonna happen to 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.719 all of us, and it's very scary, but also it 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.480 can be kind of alluring and it's a big mystery, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.360 and I just think there's so much there to play 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.520 with that they lend themselves to a lot of different 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.880 spaces and yeah, and I think Anne Rice really she 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.560 nailed all of that, like really well. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.960 I love that. That's such a good point. And also 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.720 I think you touch on something super interesting, which is 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:29.440 I don't know if there's another like archetype or specifically 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.160 like a monster archetype that has had such transcendent like 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.840 All Ages success, because you have like Hotel Transylvania, but 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.040 you can still have like a really terrifying vampire movie 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.960 like Infected or something like. It really can be everything 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.080 to everyone because of how well known the idea of 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.520 it is now. And I think, yeah, I think what 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:54.160 Anne Rice did in these books is she just wrote 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.000 a fantasy about vampires and it is a horror book 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.080 and it is a period drama, and it's lots of 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:03.640 other things. But it's also like her incredible imagination just 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.760 crafting this kind of underground vampiric world, which like, isn't 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.160 that what every team Goth wants to find? Like you're 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.640 the person who's going to get turned and get to 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.040 live in this incredible life where you already feel like 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.800 you're an outsider, but here's outsider with perks. You know. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.360 I just think it's really Yeah, I think vampires are 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:25.880 so cool and I really love. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.240 They're both outsiders and the cool kid. Yes, it's a 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.480 weird line they get to straddle. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.720 That's such a good point. But yeah, I think I 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.400 love to see that kids are still loving vampires. I 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.679 love that we're getting more interesting vampire stories. And I 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.440 do think that both of these movies, as as maligned 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.600 as the second one was, have played a huge part 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:50.559 in keeping vampires relevant and interesting to like new generations. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.000 Oh yeah, well, I guess without further ado, we should. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.599 We should take a quick break. We're gonna grab a 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.680 quick snack, guard your necks, and uh yeah, we come back. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.800 We're going to talk about its all the greatest vampire 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.040 movies in all time, if we're being honest. Interview with 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.440 the Vampire and Queen of the Dance. So stay tuned. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.880 So, now that we've established why we love vampires, let's 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.640 get into the meat of Anne Rice's most famous adaptation, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:38.400 Interview with a Vampire from you know, the early nineties. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.360 We all remember this movie nineteen ninety four was released 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.240 on November eleventh, So actually perfect season or watch for 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.680 you guys right now and directed by Neil Jordan, with 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.360 a screenplay, of course by ann Rice Joel. Where do 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.520 we begin in the world of Interview the Vampire? 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.520 There is so much But what I was really vice 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.680 coming off of having read the books is this David 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.360 Copperfield line. Okay, so when we open up, Oh, I 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.240 forgot Christian Slater was in this movie. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:15.280 Oh I know, my absolutely, and also very cute and 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.360 moving thing is that was supposed to be River Phoenix 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.520 who was playing Daniel molloy, but he passed away. So 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.719 his good friend Christian Slayer, who I love as well 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.079 as I love River Phoenix, and uh yeah, he came 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.040 in and took the role. And this is our first 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.560 look at a non Eric Pagosian Daniel Malloy in a 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:33.000 long time. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.600 Yes, first of all, but such a good Daniel Malloy, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:42.840 like really understood and encapsulated the like hyper excitement of 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.480 being like, holy cow, this story. And you don't get 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.520 a lot of like back on who he is. So 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.800 it's all got to be presented in character within a 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.079 few lines. I mean, really you're talking two or three 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.800 minutes up top, and then we're going into flashback. But 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.199 when okay, so the film opens it is U we 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.280 talking to the reporter and be like and they're like, basically, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.080 where shall we begin? And they start with David Copperfield. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.120 This is opening to David Copperfield, whether I shall turn 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:11.679 out to be the hero of my own life, or 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.280 whether that station will be held by anybody else. These 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.640 pages must show to begin my life. With the beginning 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.400 of my life, I record that I was born, as 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.800 I had been informed and believe, on a Friday, at 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.320 twelve o'clock at night. It was remarked that the clock 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.000 began to strike, and I began to cry simultaneously. In 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.640 consideration of the day and hour of my birth. It 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.920 was declared by the nurse and by some sage women 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.120 in the neighborhood who had taken a lively interest in 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.679 me several months before there was any possibility of our 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.480 becoming personally acquainted, first that I was destined to be 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.800 unlucky in life, and secondly that I was privileged to 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.280 see ghosts and spirits, both these gifts inevitably attaching, as 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.800 they believe, to all unlucky infants of either gender born 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.120 towards the small hours of a Friday night. Here's why 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.800 that's really interesting to me. Louis, we could say, was 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.880 born as a vampire in the small hours of what 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.240 could be a Friday night. It's very clearly a weekend. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:08.040 It's rowdy outside. He's pondering his hero villain status. Might 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:09.800 be the hero of this story or am I the villain? 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.920 What does it mean? So it's a really interesting space 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.200 to start a literary adaptation. Also, the first thing Louis 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.880 sees with his vampire eyes is a frozen statue which 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.360 like is briefly unbound and reveals itself to him, which 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.080 I will talk more about in Queen of the Dand 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.760 And so this comparison to like one of these great 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.280 literary heroes who's always down on his luck, who nobody 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:35.520 really understands, who struggles to get through an oppressed society 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.920 and make something of himself to make it Louis, who's 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.640 this white slave owner who was like, Who's like, how 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.240 will I get through this life? And no one understands me. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.199 It's a really interesting place to start off your hero. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.960 It was moving back in the day, having seen the 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.439 TV series this hits. It's so much more like Louis, 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.200 get your shit together? What are you complaining about? 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:59.840 Please? Suh. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.120 How do you feel about the intro of this Louie, 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.240 this setting. How do you think the film did in 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.520 capturing some of the novel here? 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.560 I think they encapture one of the most important things, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:15.640 which is like the kind of malaise and depression of Louis, 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.480 like his pair his daughter and his wife are dead, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.960 his unborn child and his wife are dead, and he's despondent. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.240 And really I do think that despite the empathy that 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.280 this film clearly has for the stat I will say 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.720 we and for you know, Louis, I will say we 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.559 do get like glimpses of Louie's spoiledness here, which I 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.959 think is something that was like really really great. An 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.599 interview with the vampire is like so we kind of 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.440 get that, like everything's about me. I'm just gonna like 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.360 walk around in New Orleans. I don't care what's going on, 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:54.120 Like everything is just terrible in my life, such for death. Yeah, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.440 I think that is like vital to the romantic nature 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.719 of the vampire is like they're unhappy be with their lot. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.240 In life, and even when they get to live forever, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.800 then they're unhappy because they can't be with you for 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.760 all that time. You know, there's this kind of emotional 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.240 push and I think, you know, as as I would 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.720 have said when I was a kid, I just think 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.280 this is a good way of saying up that Louis 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.080 is like an emo guy. Yes, like this guy is 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.040 so fucking emo. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.160 He's got big, big feelings and he needs to share 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.000 them despite the rules, and he doesn't want no therapy, 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.880 and also freeing his slaves would not be helpful at all. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.000 This fem is something really interesting that I think a 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:38.720 lot of films, literature, you know, whatever, if the if 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:44.400 your main character is villainous or evil or a bad doer, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.360 you get this line where they're like, okay, sure, terrible 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.360 to eat people, We get that, but you know, evil 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.640 doers taste better. So really, are we doing a world 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.240 of favor? Isn't this great? 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.320 Were doing the world some good? 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.640 Definitely giving the morally questionable is it? Oh gosh? It 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.360 was a cocker who was like, you know, if you 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.280 squish a cockroach, people cheer, but if you sqush a butterfly, 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.160 they're upset. Morally. I really think like vampires fall well 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.720 into that because we really be cheering them eating people. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.240 I'm like, well, he has to feed. What possibly he's 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:16.920 a newborn. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.960 He's a new born vampire. So obviously this movie is, 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.640 for the most part, is a double hander between Tom 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:31.120 Cruise and Brad Pitt. Yes, you know, and there is 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:37.320 so much tension and kind of fear that has to 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.600 go into that relationship, despite the fact it's only like 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.240 a two hour movie, right, whereas in Interview of the Vampire, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.800 we got a TV series on Yeah, the TV series 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.200 on AMC, you know, you get to spend a lot 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.200 more time with these characters. So when you rewatch this, 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:55.400 I'm always impressed that it doesn't feel rushed. The nature 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.120 of where Louis is in his life is he wants 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.000 to die. He's asking for death. That appears almost like 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.920 an angel and says, well, you hate life, but what 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.960 if you just became a vampire and we just hung 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.440 around and did cool stuff. And Louie's like, yeah, actually, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.280 you know, why not? I was going to kill myself, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.720 but now I get to live as a vampire forever. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.440 And obviously he immediately like regrets it, and it adds 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.680 a new layer of complexity and like sadness to Louis, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.400 where he realizes, Oh, I'm going to have to become 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.800 a murderer. I'm gonna have to kill people. And I 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.960 think that they do such a good job establishing all 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.040 of that in the opening kind of minutes of the 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:36.080 movie and the first meeting with Lista and kind of 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.440 understanding who he is. And I mean, he's kind of 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.000 like a you know, a mirror for Louis of like 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.160 this freedom and this like independence and the things that 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.040 he wants to have because you know, it's so terrible 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.800 to be like a rich slave owner. I feel like Louis, 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:55.400 I'm not feeling very empathetic. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:55.880 I am. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:58.480 That probably should have just killed you. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.880 Actually, I mean you were talking about moral squammy. But 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.880 I love that Lessay. It's constantly reading you for it. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.000 But he like, listen, this is such an interesting thing 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.960 because they do in the same way. The book is 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:16.200 very suggestive about the romance, like the film is suggestive 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.600 in the most Victorian of ways. They're like, it's almost 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.239 I'm seeing it felt like a code era, right, Like 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.040 you can do really tight shots and there could be 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.399 a lot of tension there's a point later in the 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.400 film where Antonio Banderaz comes in and yay, you get 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.320 a shot. So I was like, oh, do the kids 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.080 and I forget did that happen in nineteen ninety four. No, 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:37.520 it didn't. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:37.600 Know. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.879 We were way too homophobic a society to let that happen. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.600 But we will get inches apart. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.119 It's so implied and so heavily a part of the 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:51.320 original books and the queerness of vampires that I think 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.000 this is one of those funny movies where it's like, well, 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.040 the studio can say they can't guss, they can say 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.520 don't do it, doesn't matter, it's like ten thousand times 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.200 twenty because you don't show it, trick. It's all about 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.640 the tension and the moment and this life changing decision 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.280 you've made to live with someone and to lay in 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.800 a coffin with someone, and there's such an obvious romance 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.800 to it that, you know what, that's okay if the 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.760 studio is to scare in nineteen ninety four, because we 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.760 all know this movie is gay as heck. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.120 Yeah, let's talk okay. So let's talk about two things 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.760 really quick. So one, I have to say the casting 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.359 director whose name I didn't pull up shout out to 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.359 you though, because you were on your shit. So not 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.200 only do you have like the hottest of the hot 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.200 we've talked about our three main guys, plus Antonio comes 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:39.440 in later for your extras, essentially your background characters, your 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:43.800 secondary characters, as we might call them entitled. I'm giving 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.040 them more modern titles because the way they were titled 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:47.399 back in the day is a little offensive. So we 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.239 have enslaved woman Sandy Newton, who Sandy Newton is in this. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:56.600 She playsn't enslaved like a houseworker who is like, uh yo, 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.840 louis listat that you brought over here to our space 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.119 is creeping us out. There's a lot of dead birds, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.600 a lot of dead bodies you are not eating. It's crazy. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.920 I'm worried about you because you might be my master, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.840 but you weren't doing whatever freaky shit that guy was 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.640 into before. It's weird. Now she is so brilliant in 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.320 the like two and a half minutes she's on screen, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.679 you completely understand she's almost offering herself up as like 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.399 a sacrificial lamb. She's there's so much dignity in her character. Okay, 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.520 she's great, Then we have Billina Logan, who plays a 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.919 local sex worker. Billina Logan has done so much in 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.760 her like very long career. You've definitely seen her face 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.800 I'm trying to think of. She was like in Midnight Texas, 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.200 if that was a show you were really in today. Yeah, 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.119 she did Sons of Anarchy for a long time, like 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.879 a face you know. Again, a stellar performance in the 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.080 maybe minute and a half she's on screen, she's excellent. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:20:00.639 And then finally we have Indra Ova, who oh oh wow, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.600 my god. Okay, So basically Louis and Lestat are arguing. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.399 Loui's look, I'm not eating people. Stuff's like, listen, you 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.120 gotta eat. It's crazy that you're not doing this. Look 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.920 at I brought you Andrew Ovay. She's beautiful and amazing 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.240 and you should. I'm not going to really give you 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:16.800 a choice. You're going to have to eat her, and 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.359 they do, and her death is so long and so 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.080 drawn out. When they put her in that coffin and 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.680 she's just screaming and she's like, it's a coffin and 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.640 they're like, yeah, it's a coffin. Do so again she's 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:30.280 just oh, you're totally enveloped in what she's doing, and 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.159 she was Miss Black and resident Evil. She was a 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.160 VIP stewardess and the fifth element You she's a firsorder 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.040 officer in Star Wars. You again an actress with an 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.800 extremely long career whose face you're definitely aware of. And 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:43.880 I couldn't believe tho. I was like, back to back 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.000 to back women of color playing you know, all either 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.879 sex workers or they were enslaved, but their performances had 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.360 so much dignity and beauty in them. I was kind 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.320 of shocked at how overlooked they are. 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.360 Yeah, yeah, it's true. And I do think that post 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.720 the amc in to be the Vampire Show, It's obviously 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:08.800 this feels very dated, yes, but but I do still 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.680 think and I think the fact that they cast such 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:15.439 a fantastic array of supporting actors is because this is 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.840 like a Hollywood epic, Like there's so many huge set pieces. 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.159 It's an old kind of film that feels like you 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:26.719 wouldn't get made now. And I think that it is 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.800 very interesting to look at the casting of Lestat and 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:34.439 look at the casting of Louis and by which by 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.760 the way, Anne Rice like hated she didn't want Tom 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.000 Cruise to be listart. She didn't. She wanted Rapit to 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.280 be the start. She had also originally written it. She'd 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.040 written the part originally because she adapted her own screenplay 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.080