1 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty Armstrong and. 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: Jettie and he. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: Arms live from the studio scene say signiory, dimly lit room? 5 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Do you put them? The bowls of. 6 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: The Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound And on on Tuesday 7 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 4: we're toiling under the title of the show Quad God's 8 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: Flips and playing Games? Or Who's not in the Epstein Files? 9 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: That would be a short list, wouldn't it. Hey, Hey, 10 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: who's not in the Epstein files? 11 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: And what does it mean? What does what mean. 12 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: Because you're in the Epstein files? Well, it depends. Well, 13 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't depend to some people. Some people just guess 14 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: whose name showed up in the Epstein files. It doesn't 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: matter if it's just completely tangentially related in no way whatsoever. 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 4: Interesting and what's interesting to me is that with almost 17 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: without exception, the real adults in the room, the room 18 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: being our. 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: National discourse, all say the same thing. 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: You can't release the raw data from a giant investigation. 21 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: It's horrible, is ther responsible? 22 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 4: We never have for good reason, and yet we have, 23 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 4: and the talk continues and probably will for years. I 24 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: wonder if this is another norm breaking that will continue, 25 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: where we will continue to do this in the future 26 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: on giant investigations. And then your name gets drug into it, 27 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: even though you didn't do anything wrong, charged with anything, right, right, yeah, so, 28 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: and anything they come across that's embarrassing or good gossip 29 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: gets released because you met a guy once, or you're 30 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,279 Speaker 4: tangentially related to some company or whatever, that gets investigated. 31 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: You know. 32 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: In the case of Larry Summers, former president of Harvard, 33 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: he was asking a creep about advice on how to 34 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: have an affair, which is not cool, but it's not 35 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: a crime, and it doesn't automatically deserve to be aired 36 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 4: to the entire public because the government was able to 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: pick up the information. 38 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to live in that world. 39 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, But how many yours or my like 40 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 4: correspondence with each other, for instance, or a good friend 41 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 4: or whatever can just be released without interpretation, you know, 42 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: just oh on, you know, May thirteenth, Joe Getty to 43 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong and said, Blake and you're black. 44 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: I'd be like, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We've been 45 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: talking about it for weeks the lead ups. 46 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 4: You got to know the lead up to that, or 47 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: that doesn't make any sense, No, nobody has any interest. 48 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: So yesterday they got to go behind closed doors and 49 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: see the unredacted stuff, like really really unredacted with all 50 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: the names and photos not blocked out and stuff like that, 51 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: and found that it was redacted. It was still redacted 52 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 4: some of it, some of the key stuff. Us. Yeah, 53 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: oh interesting, and so but what's the story there? Then, well, 54 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: that's you know, I saw that and thought, oh god no. 55 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: But it was some of the names of the enjoyers 56 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: of underaged girls who had come to settlements with non 57 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: disclosure agreements and stuff like that. Those names were redacted, 58 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: according to Massy and Rocanna, which is certainly grist for 59 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: the It's a giant cover up mill. 60 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Sure. So hmmm. 61 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: So there are cases where, uh, some famous scumbag or 62 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: a highly placed political or business scumbag with having sex 63 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: with an uh underage woman did some sort of legal settlement. 64 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: Does that get you? That gets you out of legal trouble? 65 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: So you can't be prosecuted for that? 66 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: Uh? 67 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: No, no, no, and right, so you could you could say, okay, 68 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: we have a non disclosure agreement. I'll give you eight 69 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: million dollars. You never say anything to anybody they they crossed. 70 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 4: They sign it, but if it comes out in a 71 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: different way, you still committed a crime, right, Yeah, Yeah, 72 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: it's just difficult to get that person to give evidence 73 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: if they've signed a paper saying if I say anything 74 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: about this, I have to give back all the money 75 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: plus a quarter of a million dollars or whatever. 76 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: I remember. 77 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: I can't remember precisely how they described, but two of 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: the names on the list you could tell from the 79 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 4: context were highly known officials or names you were. One 80 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: guy was big in business, I think they said. So 81 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: there are two of the names on the list that 82 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: it seemed like, yeah, people would know who this is 83 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: if we could see the name. 84 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know. I don't like that. Well, 85 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: if there's not even nearly enough evidence to prosecute somebody, 86 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: they don't release it. 87 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: That's true, And if they had enough information to prosecute 88 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: it probably would. 89 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Have been prosecuted. You have to assume. 90 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: Unless there's a giant cover up which intrigues the conspiracy crowd. 91 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: So Mark Cowprin writes in his newsletter Today, there's a 92 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: very good chance that the reason that Donald Trump opposed 93 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: the release of the Epstein files. Was exactly what Marjorie 94 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: Taylor Green claims the President told her in a phone call, 95 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: and I hadn't heard this before quote his friends will 96 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: get hurt by the disclosure. So Trump didn't want this 97 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: stuff to go out because he had a lot of 98 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 4: friends that were gonna get hurt by it. And he 99 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: knew that the evidence for this. Some of his friends, 100 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 4: including Howard Lutnink will play a clip of him a 101 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: little bit later, have been hurt by the disclosure of 102 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: the Epstein files. 103 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: That's a tough one. 104 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this reminds me of our ongoing discussion about this. 105 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: My friends will be hurt by this. A certain crowd 106 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: immediately says, ah, there proof they are trafficking in twelve 107 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: year olds. But the more reasonable interpretation is what we've 108 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: just been discussing. Just every you know, every bit of 109 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 4: gossip and unsubstantiated rumor or report or anonymous tip or 110 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: whatever getting released. Yeah, that's gonna hurt people. It's gonna 111 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: embarrass people. I'm not saying, you know, I know they 112 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: are not guilty of any malfeasans, but I certainly don't 113 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: know that they are this whole thing is terrible. Speaking 114 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: of anonymous tips reminded me of the whole Savannah Guthrie's 115 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: mom situation and another thing from my favorite newsletter I 116 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: read every morning when I get up. There's more than 117 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: meets the public facing media's eyes in the Guthrie matter. 118 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: That got my attention. Really, what okay? That that? 119 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: I'm very very curious about that. It does not go 120 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: farther than that. There's more than meets the eye with 121 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: the Savannah Guthrie matter. Well, that's that's what does that mean? 122 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, of course there is. 123 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: Well I assume it doesn't just mean we don't know 124 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: what happened, that there's something we don't know, a bunch 125 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: of stuff that the cops know is to be expected. 126 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: So I don't know. That seems like it's clickbait to me. Yeah, 127 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: and I know you love Helper and I love Helper. Well, 128 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: you gotta give me more than that. There's nothing to 129 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: click on, so I don't know you made that crappy 130 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: clickbait then, so he's incompetent. There's nothing to click on there, 131 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: so it kind of ruins over. I wish there was 132 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: something to click on. I would have clicked on it. 133 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: I definitely would have clicked on it to find out 134 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: what was like me saying there's more going on in 135 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: Michelangelo's Mayor Bridge. 136 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: Then people know on the show, Well, of course they're 137 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: freaking is there ought to be? 138 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you said that and it wasn't super interesting, 139 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: that would make you I don't know, That's what I'm saying. No, Mark, No, 140 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: you can't just say stuff like that. That's nothing. You 141 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: gave me nothing. It my senses, there's not more than 142 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: meets the eye. It's some half wit, loser, evil person 143 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: that had a bad plan and performed it badly, and 144 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: the woman's dead and nothing good is going to come 145 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: out of this story. That's that's my assumtion. I don't 146 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: think there is more to meet the eye than to 147 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: meet the eye there. I wonder how Michael No, for 148 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: what it's worth, my wife and I are very boring people. 149 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: I believe that. 150 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh oh, Hanson said in my ear, he does 151 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 4: not believe it. 152 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: What are you saying, let's release the unredacted files? What 153 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: do you suspects going on? Hanson believes there's more than 154 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: meets the. 155 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: Eye, all right now, he's riffing in our ears. 156 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: I feel like. 157 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: The gu three story unfortunately may have met an end 158 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: last night, and it'll be very little dribbles from here 159 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: on out. 160 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: As a Savannah. 161 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: Gu three put out a clearly unscripted kind of based 162 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: on nothing last plea where they're into desperation territory, which 163 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: I don't blame them, uh, hoping to get her back. 164 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: So I think it might just fizzle out, and then 165 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: who knows if they'll ever find a poor woman. 166 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: That's just not a good story. I'll wait around. 167 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: Let's start to show officially and we can move on 168 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: from that. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this. 169 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: It is Tuesday, February tenth man. Valentine's Day is getting 170 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: really close. If you're gonna get roses or candy for 171 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: that sweaty, you better order it now. 172 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: You're twenty twenty six. 173 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: War Armstrong and getting we approve of this program, all right, 174 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: Let's begin then officially according to FCC rules regulations. Plenty 175 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 4: of stuff to talk about. That's not the stuff we've 176 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: already talked about. Here we go at Mark. I was 177 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: never in the room with him socially for business or 178 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: for even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't 179 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: going because he's gross. Howard Lucknick, they're describing Jeffrey Epstein 180 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: as so gross. So he's one of the financial advisors 181 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: for Donald Trump. And we played the clip of when 182 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: he went over to Epstein's house found out Epstein had 183 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: a massage table. Epstein said, yeah, I can get you, 184 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: you know, the right kind of massage, and Lutnick and 185 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,119 Speaker 4: his wife left and Lutnick said to his wife, We're never. 186 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: Talking to that guy again. He's creep. 187 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 5: Oh. 188 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: But then the Epstein files come out and it shows 189 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: that he did talk to him, or actually flew with him, 190 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: or had all kinds of interactions with him, and so 191 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: that doesn't look good. 192 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: No, no, it does not. But it could just have been. 193 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: You know, I don't wanted to give with that creep, 194 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: but business is business, and I got to do business 195 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: with an important businessman. 196 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, I have no idea. 197 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: I really really don't want to talk about this, and 198 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: yet I have one more thing to say. 199 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: Well, it's one more than I got. 200 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: Why has I was gonna say nobody, but I suspect 201 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: somebody said it. But why have few people said what 202 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: I have been saying about Epstein's connections to people just 203 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: in general, especially in the New York and Florida social 204 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: and financial scenes. Look, the dude was an unbelievable networker. 205 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: He knew everybody. Everybody was at his gatherings. He was 206 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: at everybody else's gatherings. A gallery opened, he was there, 207 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: he was at the met he was everywhere. Everybody knew him. 208 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: We didn't know he was a PERV. So yeah, there's 209 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: a paper trail of zillion miles long that people interacted 210 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: with him. Doesn't mean anything, Get over it. Why don't 211 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: they just lay it out like that? 212 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. 213 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: There is still a little bit, not a little bit, 214 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: a fair amount of wonder how he ever got his money, 215 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: however he got so rich. That doesn't seem to be 216 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 4: nailed down. But you know, I know there are a 217 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: lot of people that would that try to be a 218 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 4: networker like him, without the creepy stuff. But just the 219 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: networking party sounds awful to me. I don't have the 220 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: right personality for that. That sounds freaking awful. Endless dinner 221 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: parties where the goal is to get to know people 222 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: well enough that you can. 223 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: Do business with them and put people. Ah, just geep 224 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: me away from that. That's funny. I hadn't noticed anyway. 225 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: I think Epstein had a talent like you know, like 226 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: Eric Clapton has for playing the blues. He had for 227 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: exactly what you're describing, networking, interacting, being interested in people 228 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 4: remembering what they told him, following up the next day. 229 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 230 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: He's described as like one of the great talents anybody's 231 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: ever seen it. 232 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: That. 233 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it seems like all of it to have 234 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: some sort of leverage or for people, so he could 235 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: do a variety of things. 236 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: Nah, where did I read? 237 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: I read a great description might have been in the 238 00:12:54,280 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: Free press about no No that said, no no, he 239 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: would do things for people all the time. It was 240 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: a system of reciprocal generosity creating obligation. MM. Sure made 241 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: him a lot of money. All right, We got Katie's 242 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,479 Speaker 4: headlines on the way and more to talk about. Stay here. 243 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: The backlash to the backlash of Bad Bunny and his 244 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: halftime performance. 245 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: I definitely want to. 246 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: Talk about the backlash to the backlash was second half 247 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: of yesterday and that's its own interesting phenomenon. And also 248 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl ads predicted one of Katie's headlines, which 249 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to. How many lashes are the maximum? 250 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: Back and forth, backlashes to backlashes to backlashes, because I'd 251 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: like to know what it's It's like oral surgery. How 252 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: long is this going to take so I can know 253 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: how long I got a hold out? I guess my 254 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: comment would be backlashed to the third power. I don't 255 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: know if there can be another one after that. Mmmmm interesting. 256 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's figure out who's reporting what it's leads. 257 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: It's Katie Green, Katie all right. 258 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 6: All the major networks covering Savannah Guthries' mom, NBC FBI 259 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 6: says no ongoing talks between family and suspect suspected kidnappers. 260 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: That's too bad. 261 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 6: ABC, Savannah Guthrie pleads with a public quote, we need 262 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,479 Speaker 6: your help, and CNN FBI says it has no suspects 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 6: in Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. 264 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything more to be said. No, 265 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: I'm thinking of a significant amount of time. You're just 266 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: milking the horror of it. 267 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 6: From The New York Times, Maxwell refuses to answer questions 268 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:35,479 Speaker 6: in house deposition. 269 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: I watched some of that and got a little boring 270 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: because didn't she say I plead the fifth like eighty 271 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: times or something. 272 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: So there you that. But her lawyer did make the 273 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: statement that. 274 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: I'll tell all, I'll reveal all the scumbags if I get, 275 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: you know, clem, I'm off the hook. 276 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: I get to walk out here. Yeah. 277 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 6: From the Washington Post, Trump threatens to block opening of 278 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 6: bridge between US and Canada. 279 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: Why can we stay focused? 280 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: Let's just stay please stay focused on make stuff. 281 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 5: I know. 282 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 6: CBS open AI starts testing ads in free version of 283 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,359 Speaker 6: chat GPT. 284 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: This is the one that Anthropic Claude got ahead of. 285 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: In the Super Bowl ads. There were like three different 286 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 4: ads showing their cool stuff, and says Anthropic, we will 287 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: never have ads because they knew this announcement was coming yesterday. 288 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: With chat GPT ads start this week. All of a sudden, 289 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: it's gonna look a lot more like when you google stuff. 290 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: Right from the. 291 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal, the Olympics have just begun, and Olympic 292 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 6: medals are already falling apart like the metals themselves. The 293 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 6: little ring that holds them onto the ribbon apparently is 294 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 6: not sturdy enough. So you have all these medalists that 295 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 6: are going to these press conferences and they're just holding 296 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 6: the actual metal itself. 297 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: Wow, this is the most Italian story ever. 298 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: Has a poor job of crafting metals. From the New 299 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: York Post roaches, rats and. 300 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 6: Cat poop, how singles are getting their savage revenge on 301 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: their exes for Valentine's Day. 302 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: All right, we'll have to take a look at that 303 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: story new nut jobs. 304 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 305 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: From study fines, unfit people face seven hundred and seventy 306 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 6: five percent higher risk of blowing their top from stressful. 307 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: Moments if you're if you're not fit, being unfit makes 308 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: you believe your top more authentic. Yes, trying to think 309 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: if I have experienced more unfit people yelling and screaming 310 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: and losing their poop than others. 311 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: That's not my experience, certainly, not clearly. 312 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 6: And finally, from the Babylon Bee world gathers to watch 313 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 6: a bunch of sports and also figure skating. 314 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: Hey that was me and bebylon Bee. You watched the 315 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 4: quad God and tell me that's not a sport. I mean, 316 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: come on, yeah, like Joe was talking about yesterday, the 317 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: athletic ability and that holy crap. But if there's a 318 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: great for artistic value. Is that a sport you can't 319 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: measure it or keep score, I don't know. And sequins 320 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 4: count the number of sequence matter. 321 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. One of the most. 322 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 5: Entertaining moments on the field did not make it to TV. 323 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 5: During the fourth quarter, a shirtless individual got loose on 324 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: the field and ran wild, ran pretty fast until Patriots 325 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 5: wide receiver. 326 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: Kyle Williams slowed him down. 327 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: Ironically, that guy ran for more yards than Kyle and 328 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 5: the Patriots did come. 329 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: One the entire first half. Well, that's an easy joke. Yeah, 330 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: if you haven't seen that video. 331 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 4: The guy's running around and he's pretty fast, and you know, 332 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 4: security people in all their gear having trouble catching up 333 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: to him. And then that why receiver for the Patriots 334 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: takes off and he closes on that dude so fast 335 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: as you would expect a twenty the move a twenty 336 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 4: something world class athlete, and the guy immediately hits the ground. 337 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 4: He slides like a quarterback does because he didn't want 338 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: to get hit in the same way that a quarterback doesn't. 339 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: Because I mean, I don't know what that Patriots guy 340 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: was gonna do. It would have been kind of interesting 341 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: because if he puts a hit on the dude or 342 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: tackles him at all, some lawyer's going to get to 343 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: that guy and say, yeah, you got neck pain now 344 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: in back pain and uh, and we're going to go 345 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: after that man. Yeah, they'd probably try it. I don't 346 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: think they get anywhere because that takes us. Oh that's 347 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: happened over and over again. Somebody runs on the field 348 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: and gets absolutely clobbered. It's the best part. 349 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: I know. 350 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: I would love to have seen the wide receiver lay 351 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: him out, though, God, you'd never be the same. 352 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there have been a couple through the years. 353 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: That guy's just got leveled. 354 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 4: If the guy was this streaker, he was shirtless but 355 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: not pantless. Is even streaking. He's been ruined in the 356 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: modern era. Nothing is good anymore. 357 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: Yes, half ass, so no ass, sorry, really thought it 358 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: was interesting. 359 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 4: I get an email from open ai because I use 360 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: chat GPT regularly, letting me know that their policy was 361 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: about to change and I needed to sign I agree 362 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: or something like that. So if a quick backstory on 363 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: open ai the name open ai. First, they're attempting to 364 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: become the Kleenex of chat bots, like just so big 365 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 4: and ubiquitous, kind of like Google is. I mean, you know, 366 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: people to Google that means search for that, whether you 367 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: use Google or not, it's like it's it's because Google's 368 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: so big. It's like the verb or the product. Open 369 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: ai was hoping to is hoping to be that now. 370 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: But oh, the name open ai comes from Sam Altman 371 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: and Elon Musk wanting to have an open artificial intelligence 372 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: company that was open for everybody to see, in the 373 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: world to see, and how would be very transparent about 374 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: the way we work and not for profit because they're 375 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 4: worried about Elon specifically worried about where AI was going 376 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 4: to go and taken over the world and the dangerous 377 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: stuff AI could do. But he and Sam Altman didn't 378 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: agree on everything, and sam Altman wanted to turn it 379 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 4: into a for profit thing, and then Elon split off 380 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: with GROC and sam Altman made open ai another. 381 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: Company that's trying to make money, and that's where they 382 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: are now. 383 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: And so I didn't realize this until I read it 384 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: like a week or so ago, that all these chatbots 385 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 4: are not making any money for really. I mean, there 386 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 4: are some people that get the premium prescript subscriptions, but 387 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 4: the vast majority of us are using the free version, 388 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: and you know why you're pouring gazillions of dollars into 389 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: a product that everybody. 390 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: Gets for free. Well, here come the ads. 391 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 4: Starting today for chat GPT, which is open AI. The 392 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 4: ads are coming. And the agreement that I read last 393 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: night it talked about how the ads will be targeted 394 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 4: to your interest based on the questions you ask. 395 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know I feel about that because some 396 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: of the things I ask out. 397 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if I want you sending ads to 398 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: me about, you know, personal problems that I'm using you 399 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 4: as a therapist for. 400 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: It's weird. 401 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: Just say it, penile implants, It's fine, it's fine. Right, 402 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 4: How about it's to Mark Zuckerberg. Now they're going to 403 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 4: study my every action and everything I type and fashion 404 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: ads for me. 405 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 406 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: I don't know what I think of that. And it 407 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 4: said the ads will be clearly marked. Okay, I know 408 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 4: how that works on Google and Twitter for instance, New 409 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: York Post for instance. All the time I think, well, 410 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: here's an interesting story, and. 411 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: Then in timey print up in the corner it says 412 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: ad ad. So it's not clearly marked. 413 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 4: Maybe, well, we'll see how chat GPT does it, but 414 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 4: it's not always clearly marked that what you're looking at 415 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: is an AD, because I want your eyes to at 416 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 4: least rest on it for a second because that's where 417 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: the money is, so we'll see. And then obviously the 418 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: idea is if you have a paid subscription, you won't 419 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: see ads. 420 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: We all know how that works. 421 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: That's why I pay for Hulu and Netflix and stuff 422 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 4: like that, because if you don't pay for Hulu, you 423 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: get an ad like every two minutes you're trying to 424 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: watch an episode of the Office or whatever you're watching, 425 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: and it's highly, highly annoying. So the first subscription is 426 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: only eight dollars a month, which is a pretty good number. 427 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: I bet a lot of smart people sat around and thought, 428 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: what's the perfect number for People say, well, it's only 429 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: eight dollars, what's the highest number we can go with that. 430 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: People will say, wow, that's not enough for me to 431 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 4: because eight dollars is pretty good, and I'm sure they 432 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: have their schedule of rate increases schedule out already. 433 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 434 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: As soon as you get really you know, get even 435 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: more invested in the whole idea. So for about the 436 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: price of a Venti Macha at Starbucks you can get 437 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 4: the ad free version. 438 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: So most of us probably will. 439 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: But I really don't like the idea of ads targeted 440 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 4: at the searches I do on chat GPT. 441 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: We'll see how that works in practice, but yeah, I 442 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: hate that. 443 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: So if you're suicidal, does it give you ads for 444 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 4: rope and a rickety chair. 445 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Boy? 446 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 4: Unfortunate, unfortunate little sentence there before I proceed with actually 447 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: a very closely related to that. 448 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 2: Bit of information. 449 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: It's gotten so dizzying at this point because several of 450 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: the companies are using the consumer level. 451 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: AI platforms, the. 452 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: Large language models blah blah blah, what general most of 453 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 4: us use to help finance the super general intelligence stuff, right, 454 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: and they're getting you know, millions and hundreds of millions 455 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 4: of dollars invested sometimes by each other. And so the 456 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 4: you know you kind of explained, well, they need to 457 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 4: make money. It's way way, way more complicated than that that. 458 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 4: The revenue flow is different like for every company and 459 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: changes every three weeks. 460 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: And so I don't know what they're trying to do 461 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: or how they're trying to do it. 462 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: Well, it was interesting when whatever was a couple of 463 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 4: months ago, right before the end of the U Sam 464 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: Altman put out that they were going to make their 465 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 4: focus on making chat GPT better, even though that's not 466 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: what AI is. These chatbots are not what AI is. 467 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: It's just a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of what AI is, 468 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: and these companies are investing in, but it's what we 469 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 4: all know and see and understand exactly. Speaking of chat GPC, 470 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting their model four oh, I 471 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: guess was the one that was like super empathetic and 472 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: wanted to be your friend. 473 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 2: I had a friend complain about that the other day. 474 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: I'll have to dig up their searches and the way, 475 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 4: the the. 476 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: Way the chat bot was being just way too chummy. 477 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: I think it's symptomatic of something going on in the 478 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: modern world which I haven't figured out exactly. Maybe it'll 479 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: click in my brain as we're talking. But so the 480 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: four oh was was the one that was like reinforcing 481 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: people's psychotic thoughts and urges. It was so sycophantic that 482 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: it would like reinforce people's delusions. On the other hand, 483 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: if you're not delusional, it was like the world's best 484 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 4: counselor ever. 485 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: And there are all sorts of people. 486 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. The headline is they've they've gotten rid of 487 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: four oh. Now they've canceled it and made it much 488 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: more neutral, and everybody who is getting like really good 489 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: counseling from it, because like it or not, there is 490 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 4: something useful about feeling like you've connected with a human 491 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 4: being who understands you when you're trying to figure out 492 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: your life and counseling and suicide prevention and that sort 493 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: of stuff you don't want to go to even the 494 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: world's most efficient DMV clerk. If you're thinking of killing yourself, 495 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 4: you've got to have a human connection that you think, Wow, 496 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: this person really gets me. 497 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: And evidently four oh was really really good at. 498 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 4: That while it was, you know, like too good at 499 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 4: it for people who thought their mother was a space 500 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: alien and was going to remove their intestines while they slept. 501 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 502 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: So, like I said, there's something there about the modern world. 503 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 4: We've got to take it away from the people it's 504 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 4: great for because of the handful of poor sons of guns. 505 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: And I mean that sincerely. It's an awful thing. 506 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 4: Mental illness is an awful, awful thing, but we've got 507 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: to remove it from the shelf because of that few 508 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 4: people who are being pushed further down the road of delusion. 509 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with that. 510 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: So, like people like me who have been saying it's 511 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 4: like the greatest therapists they've ever come across, they're going 512 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: to have to take that away because it it being 513 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 4: a great therapist does not work for crazy people, really 514 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: crazy people. 515 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: Right, it's just too sycophantic. That's an interesting problem. Now. 516 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: I hate the like I'm immediately turned off by salespeople 517 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 4: who go way too far and try to be chumming 518 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 4: with me, like I will even if it's a good price, 519 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: I will leave and go to a different You weird 520 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 4: me out because I know what you're doing transparent to me. 521 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: We're not friends, we don't know each other, and you. 522 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: Make a percentage of this sale. We all know what's 523 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 4: going on here. Don't act like we're bonding, all right, 524 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 4: just stop. But so when the when these chatbots do it, 525 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: it's so weird. I mean, it's like another level of 526 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 4: that because you well, it's it's a computer, it's an algorithm, 527 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 4: it has no feelings whatsoever, and just oh wow, I 528 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: love your spirit. Here's what you should do. Don't tell 529 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: me you love my spirit. 530 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: It is so nauseating. 531 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 4: Love your can do attitude. Here's a tip on how 532 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: you should shut up. But you don't love anything. You're 533 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: a collection of circuits. You don't know what love is. 534 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 4: Shut up, I'll hit you. 535 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: With a hammer. How do you like that? A Coca cola? 536 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: Right your keyboard? All right? 537 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: You keep that ass up. Oh, speaking of counseling and 538 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 4: haveiness and unhappiness. 539 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: Uh Cowsling's not going to make you happy. I'll tell 540 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: you how to be happy next hour. Stay with us. 541 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: If you're not happy, definitely stay with us, because you'll 542 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 4: be happy after next hour. 543 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 2: That's quite a tease. 544 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: I'll tell you how to be If you're not happy, 545 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: I'll tell you how to be happy next hour. 546 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: And if you are happy, I'll make you happier. Stay 547 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: with us. Oh wow, So if you're already happy, it 548 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: can go up a notch. Yeah. 549 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: If you're just completely effing over at Joied, I'm not 550 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: sure there's much I can do for you. You're you're fine, 551 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: you're great. If you're a stat everybody else stay tuned. Okay, 552 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: that's awesome. 553 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: The story of Jimmy Laie. 554 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: The freedom fighter from Hong Kong who China has put 555 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: in jail and uh solitary confinement is an old man 556 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 4: because he dared speak out about free press and everything 557 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: like that deserves a mention today because he got his 558 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: official life sentence over the weekend. 559 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: Want to do that story for anybody who doesn't know it. 560 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: It's really really something and shows you how incredibly evil 561 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: China is. We got a lot of stuff on the way, 562 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: got the mail bag stuff on the way, which is 563 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: always entertaining. 564 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: And that's next. 565 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: All the journalists asking American athletes at the Olympics political 566 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: questions to try to drag them into controversy. Somebody made 567 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: the post of hey, ask one of the Chinese athletes 568 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: about Jimmy Lai being sentenced to death. 569 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: Oh you won't. Oh okay. I wonder why. 570 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: I can't believe that's continued. I thought that first round 571 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: of that sort of questioning was so bad. 572 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: Oh reacted to it as they should discussed. 573 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: We got to play the CBS Evening News version of 574 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: that where they acted like it's just something you can't control. 575 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: Lots of athletes have had to ask answered difficult political 576 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: questions this Olympic season. Like it's not because they're being 577 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 4: asked by the journalists. Is just something that, yeah, yeah, 578 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: here's your freedom hating quote of the day. Continue on 579 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: our quotes with communists. I think we've probably all heard 580 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: the very short quote from the Communist Manifesto. Well it's 581 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: actually it's not from the Communist Manifesto, but is Karl Marx, 582 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: from each according to his ability, to each according to 583 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: his needs. But the incredibly long, rambly, fancy pants sentence 584 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: leading up to that is really something, and I'm going 585 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: to paraphrase it, but he says, in a higher phase 586 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 4: of communist society, after the enslaving division of labor to 587 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 4: management vanishes, and also the difference between mental and physical 588 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: labor has vanished, after labor becomes not only a means 589 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: of life, but life's prime goal. After the productive forces 590 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: have also increased, with the all round development of the individual, 591 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: blah blah blah, all the springs of cooperative wealth flow 592 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: more abundantly. Only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois 593 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 4: right be crossed in its entirety. And so society inscribed 594 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: on its banners, from each courting to his ability, to 595 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 4: each courting to his needs in other words, we're gonna 596 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 4: eliminate the difference between management and worker, and between mental 597 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 4: labor and physical labor, and everybody's going to be so 598 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: into it. They'll all work like crazy, and there'll be 599 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: so much wealth, and everybody will be so happy. We 600 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: don't even have to worry about private property anymore. That 601 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: is beyond delusional. That's telling your chat GPT your mother 602 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 4: is going to take your intestines while you sleep crazy. 603 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: That's a pretty good theory from a guy who hardly 604 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: ever worked a day in his life. 605 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: How did that ideology catch on? It's freaking stupid. Oh 606 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: my god, Lord doesn't think some days. 607 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: Mailbagoo, drop us a mail bag at Armstrong in getty 608 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: dot com. Would love to hear mat me keep it 609 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 4: short if you can. Mail bag at Armstrong and getty 610 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 4: dot com. Thanks for helping me keep my sanity rights ed. 611 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: The mainstream media is practically universal saying what a great 612 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 4: halftime show. It was bad, Bunny, I thought it was 613 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: a piece of vulgar crap. Glad I'm not alone with 614 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 4: my thinking. I had a number of thoughts on that. 615 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: Let's see. First of all, we'll start with JT in 616 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: Livermore who says the potato chipad is seen through the 617 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: eyes of an MBA degree. 618 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: The potato chipad was not a bad ad. 619 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: Because it delivered on what I believe was its intended 620 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: goal to make it okay to love the same potato 621 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 4: chips as your older parents. There are a million chips 622 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: these days, including Joe's secret potato chip company with fancy flavors. 623 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 4: It's not secret, it's keyos all right, anyway, and the 624 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: commercial set up a permission structure to allow the younger 625 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: generation to be okay loving the same delicious hip as 626 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: the older generation the same way it is okay to 627 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: feel good about good old fashioned values like handing over 628 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 4: the farm when the time comes, father daughter tradition with 629 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: a twist, et cetera. American Gosh darned it, it's okay 630 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: to love the same chip as what you grew up on. 631 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: That's an interesting goal they achieved that or not. I 632 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: knew lazed potato chips. I'm not sure I've ever had 633 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 4: any feelings whatsoever about I'm not eating my dad's potato chip, 634 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 4: no way, No cool young chaps. I don't get people anyway. 635 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: But then JT goes onto the halftime show, and he says, 636 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 4: for those America hating apologists, they want to attack me 637 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 4: on the notion that I can't stand multiculturalism, I'd point 638 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: out that it isn't multicultural to produce, to present a monoculture. 639 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: A Spanish only performance with Spanish only text is the 640 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 4: opposite of multicultural. In fact, I think it's so obviously offensive. 641 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 4: I'd go so far as to declare that it was 642 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: intended to be offensive, just to stunt to get more attention. 643 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 4: I think that intentional attempt to offend is what actually 644 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: offends me. Jack is right about the goose and the 645 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 4: golden egg, he says more elegantly than that. But the 646 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 4: backlash to the backlash, I mean, they were just rabbit 647 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: about this on MSNBC when I flipped it on this morning, 648 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 4: about the racist idiots who just can't handle anything different. 649 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: Why is it, in any way a flaw of mine 650 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: if I prefer things in a language I understand. 651 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: I don't feel like that's a flaw. 652 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: I know. I know the slightest amount of critical questioning 653 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 4: of people like that, their opinion will fall apart completely. 654 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: But that's the beauty of being in an ideological bubble. 655 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 4: Nobody ever asked those questions. I love this from Rebecca. 656 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: I've been doing a fair amount of thinking about the 657 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: halftime show or the last day or so. It bothers 658 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 4: me that they refuse to do subtitles. I work for 659 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: a university that, by federal laws, required to make all 660 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: materials accessible for all students, up to an including suggesting 661 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: that colors used on a document be changed to our 662 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 4: rival school's colors to improve contrast for students who need 663 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: better contrast for readability. Yet here I sat said, unable 664 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: to access the halftime show because of. 665 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: A refusal to provide subtitles. I wonder what my rights are. 666 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 4: Title two expansion doesn't necessarily apply to broadcast television, but 667 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 4: still from an eighty eight perspective, it seems like a misstep. 668 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 2: Well, you've got the absurd. 669 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: Freaking situation now in America where every single you know, 670 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: news conference or speech or whatever has to have the 671 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 4: sign language interpreter for that percentage of Americans who are 672 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: completely deaf don't have clothes captioning on their TV even 673 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: though they're already deaf, or they're completely deaf and they 674 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: want to know what this public officials say. But so 675 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 4: you had that at the beginning of the super Bowl, 676 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 4: but during the halftime there is no clothes. You know, 677 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 4: you don't have that for people who speak English. It's 678 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 4: pretty interesting. 679 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty