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Speaker 1: I didn't get into the University of Michigan because of
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Speaker 1: How we feeling today for the spring game? Feeling good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What are your expectations? What were your expectations going into
Speaker 1: spring practice as far as getting better as a player.
Speaker 4: Shoot, my expectations.
Speaker 5: I was an incoming freshman, so I was just like
Speaker 5: trying to learn a lot. So I didn't know where
Speaker 5: it was gonna take me. But I started picking up
Speaker 5: a little faster and yeah, like I'm happy where I
Speaker 5: am now. Just got to keep growing.
Speaker 2: Because you had a lot of adversity going in high school.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 1: What was your process like coming to Arizona State when
Speaker 1: before you were committed to Florida.
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, you're committed to Florida.
Speaker 1: Obviously there was a big story about you in massive
Speaker 1: nil deals. Yeah, and then now coming here, which from
Speaker 1: my understanding, there's there's not really any ip what was
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, what was your thought process and that
Speaker 1: whole thing going through that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, my thought process it was a little rough because
Speaker 5: I didn't understand it at first. You know, it's a
Speaker 5: lot of question marks going on. Like but but honestly,
Speaker 5: how I ended up here? You know, my dad, you know,
Speaker 5: played here like ninety four through ninety eight or somewhere
Speaker 5: around there, so like I always grew up around the program,
Speaker 5: you know, just this was like the first colleague team
Speaker 5: I knew, you know, I was I was just you know,
Speaker 5: figuring it out and and it just meant more to
Speaker 5: be here. And that's why he, like coach Dillingham, he's
Speaker 5: an Arizona guy, like just like he's trying to feel it.
Speaker 4: Fill the room with people want to be here. So
Speaker 4: what happened at Florida?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're having that Florida with everybody knows the headlines. Yeah,
Speaker 5: everybody knows the headlines. But your perspective, from my perspective,
Speaker 5: I mean, it was a you know, it's just new
Speaker 5: to everybody.
Speaker 4: It's new to a lot of people.
Speaker 6: So you say new you're talking about the nil stuff yeah,
Speaker 6: holding everything else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know it's just it's it's new to everybody.
Speaker 5: So you know, you got a lot of a lot
Speaker 5: of people you know included in there. So I mean
Speaker 5: it it's hard. It's hard to explain. But but on.
Speaker 6: The service level, it seems like reading articles, you had
Speaker 6: a lot of money on the table, most of fourteen
Speaker 6: million dollars essentially when you signed, they didn't actually have
Speaker 6: that money. And then that's when you decided, oh, this
Speaker 6: isn't what you guys said it was gonna be.
Speaker 4: That's when you decided to ask for.
Speaker 6: Getting out of your commitment on this purpase like reading
Speaker 6: from a third like, yeah, right outside, looking.
Speaker 5: At right, I think a lot of that just comes
Speaker 5: in to trust, you know, all that stuff aside, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So you know, when you're playing
Speaker 5: for somebody, you got to try to you know, you
Speaker 5: gotta trust everything around you. And just came down to trust.
Speaker 5: And that's why I ended up here, to be honest.
Speaker 6: Just interesting because you passed up a lot of money
Speaker 6: from probably a lot of programs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an interesting financial decision to make when
Speaker 1: you were in high school, you're seeing the possibility of
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars. Yeah, brother, I would ship my pants.
Speaker 1: There was no there were no nil deals at all.
Speaker 1: Like when we played in college. We bring up the
Speaker 1: same thing all the time. It's like we could get
Speaker 1: a bagel, but no cream cheese. Like all the NCAA
Speaker 1: rules were just wild and things just seemed like the
Speaker 1: wild West right now. Yeah, and they come here in
Speaker 1: this program like both of you to speak on it. Like,
Speaker 1: ASU historically has not been one of those programs that
Speaker 1: are you know in Nebraska and Alabama Michigan type thing.
Speaker 2: What was the draw for both of you?
Speaker 1: Obviously your dad playing here, and then where do where
Speaker 1: do you think this program can get to in your
Speaker 1: times being here in college?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Shoot, in my honest opinion, like keim p, like this
Speaker 5: is a bigger recruiting tool, you know, so like you
Speaker 5: win here, like you can keep it going, and and
Speaker 5: like who wouldn't want to live out here? You know
Speaker 5: while winning the Pac twelve, you know what I mean? So,
Speaker 5: like this's definitely a place you can win. And I'm
Speaker 5: sure you guys know, like there's there's certain programs that
Speaker 5: can get to that.
Speaker 4: You know, there's some programs that, like you know, won't
Speaker 4: keep going.
Speaker 5: But I think this is a place that we can
Speaker 5: win and to keep going becoming a tradition.
Speaker 6: How about you, Jeorde? What made you want to come?
Speaker 6: Come all the way to a Z from Louisiana?
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I spent a lot of time out here
Speaker 7: growing up. This is when my dad did his off
Speaker 7: season stuff, you know, whenever I was coming up, So
Speaker 7: I spent a lot of time in the area. What's
Speaker 7: familiar with it? There were players in my position room
Speaker 7: that looked like me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I'm an undersized so it was big to me that
Speaker 7: I was going a place where they played people that
Speaker 7: were my size, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 7: knew that wouldn't be a factor in deciding who was
Speaker 7: gonna get on the field who wouldn't.
Speaker 3: And then outside of that, I just love to be bro.
Speaker 7: I love how close I am the Scottsdale all, love
Speaker 7: everything that this area has to offer, you know, as
Speaker 7: far as you know, social life, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: The academic opportunities I had with the Crunk High School
Speaker 7: and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So it was really an easy decision, no brainer for me.
Speaker 6: What kind of edge do you feel like you have
Speaker 6: because I got to play with your dad for I
Speaker 6: think just a year, but kind of being under his
Speaker 6: wing growing up, I feel like I've known you because
Speaker 6: I've watched when you're when Ryan would would put out
Speaker 6: all those videos of all the training he was doing
Speaker 6: with all those guys. You were obviously in the Malai
Speaker 6: you had a fro at the time, moving around great feet.
Speaker 6: What kind of edge do you feel like you've had
Speaker 6: coming into the college level, Like having a father like
Speaker 6: Ryan Clark, Man.
Speaker 7: It was everything, you know, it really is everything. In
Speaker 7: high school, man, my dad had me up at four
Speaker 7: thirty five o'clock before school working out, and I leave
Speaker 7: there and I go to practice, and then after practice,
Speaker 7: right back at the gym after school, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, you know, just schedules like that. He kind of
Speaker 3: gave me the blueprint.
Speaker 7: So now whenever I'm doing the work that is to
Speaker 7: some people difficult, you know what I'm saying, or hard
Speaker 7: I've been doing my entire life is the norm. So
Speaker 7: you know, he's prepared me in really every way that
Speaker 7: he possibly could to you know, excel at this level.
Speaker 1: Was there a level of resistance when he was waking
Speaker 1: you up at five am and you're seeing all the
Speaker 1: guys in high school because we had we had Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey on here, and he was basically telling us a
Speaker 1: similar story about his dad. His They were like no sweets,
Speaker 1: they had gon be in bed at seven thirty and
Speaker 1: if you got ackled by your er, yeah, tackled by
Speaker 1: your jersey, you're literally grounded. And obviously at the time
Speaker 1: he hated it, but now he obviously sees his proof
Speaker 1: in the pudding.
Speaker 2: Like how was that?
Speaker 1: When did you start to realize like, oh, if I
Speaker 1: keep doing this stuff, it's gonna pay off.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Man, I'll tell the story. I was in my
Speaker 7: jem Bree my sophomore year. I had missed like two
Speaker 7: or three tackles. And if there's one thing that my
Speaker 7: dad did when he played it was he hunted Bro
Speaker 7: like he was a banger. So I missed three tackles
Speaker 7: and I seen him stand up in the stands and
Speaker 7: I already knew he's Matt. And the next day, Bro,
Speaker 7: he woke me up and he brought out Super Bowl
Speaker 7: helmet in his past and we did Oklahoma's for like
Speaker 7: an hour. No, no, bro, Bro, legitimate hour, like lined
Speaker 7: up across each other, like five yards away from each other,
Speaker 7: just ran into each other for like an hour. And
Speaker 7: I got yelled at, cushed out like everything, and I
Speaker 7: was like, I was mad. I went home crying like
Speaker 7: I was hurt. But how old were you sophomore in
Speaker 7: high school?
Speaker 3: How old is that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was about fifteen. Yeah, how old are you know?
Speaker 3: About six years ago? Man? That is so funny.
Speaker 2: Bedroom that night before he walke come up just like
Speaker 2: this motherfucker's.
Speaker 6: But I will say this, whether it was walk through
Speaker 6: his jog throughs anything, even like being in the linebacker
Speaker 6: room or linebacker coach would even point out Ryan because
Speaker 6: he was getting when he was getting longer than the Tuesday,
Speaker 6: getting aged, something that he was always persistent at and professional.
Speaker 6: I was like, he always took angles and worked his
Speaker 6: angles every day. And I'm sure you've talked to enough
Speaker 6: old heads that played with him, but he really was
Speaker 6: like that until basically he died out of the league.
Speaker 3: No teasing piece of what we all.
Speaker 6: Die, but everyone dies, everyone dies, but you truly like,
Speaker 6: I mean, he was a he's a he's a pro.
Speaker 6: He was a pros pro. You have that as an
Speaker 6: old man. Shout out, RC, that's my only shoutout. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna give you on our platform, brother, if your whole
Speaker 6: bunch when he came on the show, I know.
Speaker 3: I know, I love Uncle r C.
Speaker 6: I'm sure were you did you live out there in
Speaker 6: Virginia when he was out there in Washington. I'm sure
Speaker 6: you're out there with the orange chicken. We get a
Speaker 6: cheesecake factory. Hell yeah, bro, Hey, he's sorry. Those are
Speaker 6: some good buys man, some good times. And Ryan always hosted.
Speaker 6: I learned a lot with Ryan with like the IVS
Speaker 6: and massage therapists. And when we came out to Arizona,
Speaker 6: like being over going over what was the ppeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: he he looked a lot of a lot of his teammates,
Speaker 6: a lot of us up with his people for being
Speaker 6: in the league so long.
Speaker 2: So did he introduce you to n A D and
Speaker 2: all that?
Speaker 3: No, any D.
Speaker 2: First time I heard about an A D.
Speaker 3: Was uh, was out here with with Bobo?
Speaker 2: Yeah Nashville.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nashville.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not out here in Arizona, but yeah, Nashville is
Speaker 6: the person I'd ever heard of it a D. But
Speaker 6: all this stuff with the with the ivs and everything
Speaker 6: like that, I feel like I was always surrounded by
Speaker 6: some good vets like Ryan who come in and they
Speaker 6: would always open the door back. Hey, come over, get
Speaker 6: work here, get work. There have stuff set up for everybody.
Speaker 6: He was always one of them.
Speaker 1: When you when your dad took you out on that
Speaker 1: faceful morning he did Oklahoma drill.
Speaker 2: That's so did he still have it or was he
Speaker 2: taking you out?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was getting messed up the old Tom Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He had a super Bowl helmet on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he had a Super Bowl He literally had hel
Speaker 7: may he wore in the super Bowl, Bro, no picture
Speaker 7: and pulling.
Speaker 2: It out of like the glass case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, open it up, getting out real careful, wiping it down.
Speaker 3: Today he ordered like.
Speaker 7: A he ordered like a practice jersey that looked like
Speaker 7: my high school practice jersey, like broad and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y, that is hilarious. So after that day, what
Speaker 1: lesson did that?
Speaker 3: T shoe, no misstackle, don't miss no miss taos.
Speaker 2: How are you tackling now?
Speaker 3: They were pretty good? Yeah, my team is about to
Speaker 3: go pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's not the way your your dad will answered that question.
Speaker 1: We had him on the bus and we were talking
Speaker 1: about Derek Henry, who we were talking about before the podcast,
Speaker 1: and he was saying that he would stand Derek up
Speaker 1: in the hole.
Speaker 7: Knocking lie Bro, I think he would. He would literally
Speaker 7: die trying, like literally he would crack.
Speaker 3: He would. He is willing to die to do that.
Speaker 2: So I believe you believe he would do it?
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 4: You don't think so we're talking you can't.
Speaker 3: I don't know why we're getting into this again.
Speaker 6: The majority, the majority of defensive players that would have
Speaker 6: a zero place to go lane against Derek.
Speaker 1: You're going to get Derek to the ground. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're the way you're phrasing it. If you're what about
Speaker 1: you're in open space. He breaks the hole, he's coming up.
Speaker 6: Now we're now we're changing the goalpost again, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: we're changing this is we're getting in this exact same conversation.
Speaker 6: Do you think he would Roberts playing Derek? Are you
Speaker 6: talking about Ryan? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Ryan through his body?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I'm not I've never seen him, I never
Speaker 6: you need to type in right in Clark College. I'm
Speaker 6: not saying he's like the hardest hitter to ever come,
Speaker 6: like he's some Schawn Tier or anything like that, But
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, Ryan is willing to rip, would have
Speaker 6: been willing to risk his life to win in the hole.
Speaker 3: You gotta love that man, he right, I mean, I.
Speaker 6: Mean Willison Wilson Gah, it wasn't like it's not like
Speaker 6: he was seeing him. But just yeah, go watch some
Speaker 6: Ryan Clark tape. I mean he he brought the boom.
Speaker 6: I mean, he didn't play just thirteen years undrafted. Just
Speaker 6: I don't know fluting out there, you know what I
Speaker 6: mean I'm wrong with.
Speaker 3: With Jade, And how have you been acclimating.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean act mating pretty good, like I think
Speaker 5: living in Timpee makes it a little easier, you know,
Speaker 5: being from California, Like it's not much different. I love
Speaker 5: it out here, Like I don't even miss home at all.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not even going back for summer, Like no
Speaker 5: no brakes or nothing.
Speaker 4: I'm staying out here but here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like you got everything you need out here, A
Speaker 5: lot of resources, a lot of like good networking, you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of getting networking.
Speaker 1: Hey, I've been out here in tenp I remember coming
Speaker 1: out here and visiting from Michigan. I know what the
Speaker 1: resources you're talking about.
Speaker 6: What what was it like with Coach D you talk
Speaker 6: about trust, trust.
Speaker 3: Levels and everything else. What was it about him that
Speaker 3: brought you here?
Speaker 6: Because yeah, you know, listen, everybody's gonna listen to hear
Speaker 6: about you passing up fourteen probably everywhere down to eight
Speaker 6: million dollars that you passed up from all these different
Speaker 6: schools to come play for nothing, And there was on
Speaker 6: the state. What was it about Coach D and that staff,
Speaker 6: Like what I know your dad played out here, that
Speaker 6: trust level?
Speaker 3: Talk about that?
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, so like a big thing too with me
Speaker 5: coming here was you know I noticed what it was before,
Speaker 5: Like as far as like the NIO stuff, and I
Speaker 5: was like, you know, it was it was making me
Speaker 5: realize what was really important, you know, because and what
Speaker 5: really like made me happy, you know, and and going
Speaker 5: through all that stuff like it didn't make me you know,
Speaker 5: it was just making things worse and worse.
Speaker 4: So I was like, you need to go somewhere that's stressful. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was bad, Like it was bad.
Speaker 5: So I had to go somewhere where it met more
Speaker 5: to me and uh where I could trust everybody in
Speaker 5: the building. And uh so Dilly Dilly recruited me at
Speaker 5: Orgon my like into sophomore year, whole junior year, and
Speaker 5: I almost committed to organ almost committed to Orgon, and
Speaker 5: Delly told me like he's like, just go take your visits,
Speaker 5: like make sure like this is the place you want
Speaker 5: to be, Like he always he always like looked out
Speaker 5: like not even if it was in his favor. When
Speaker 5: I was committed other places, I was asking him like, hey,
Speaker 5: what do you think of this? What do you think
Speaker 5: of that? And he was like one of the few
Speaker 5: coaches I had that relationship with. So when when I
Speaker 5: got my release, like I kind of knew, you know,
Speaker 5: I knew where I was gonna end up going because like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's somebody I trust. He never really lied to me
Speaker 5: like ever, always kept it pretty real.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that seems like he has really like
Speaker 1: an incredibly good energy. Yeah, Like he's the high energy
Speaker 1: dude you'll walk in through the cafeteria. He was yelling
Speaker 1: at guys from across the hall, just like a dude
Speaker 1: that's like young enough to still like exact relate with
Speaker 1: you guys exactly we got I know, we have to
Speaker 1: wrap it right around fifteen minutes right now, but just
Speaker 1: kind of like a two part or like from an
Speaker 1: Arizona State standpoint, where do you guys see the expectation
Speaker 1: for you guys going into this year and then where
Speaker 1: do you think you can get to by the end
Speaker 1: of your careers here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Go first, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 7: Just for this year, man, the sky's the limit, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Just with the new energy that
Speaker 7: we have in the building and the new guys that
Speaker 7: we brought in, you know, getting kids like dating here man,
Speaker 7: the talent that we have here, and the opportunities that
Speaker 7: we have as far as our schedule this year, I
Speaker 7: think that we're gonna we're gonna shock a lot of
Speaker 7: people that we're gonna win a lot of football games.
Speaker 7: And I think we're gonna be the beginning of a
Speaker 7: dynasty here with coach Dellingham. And for me, I just
Speaker 7: want to I just want to win football games. That's
Speaker 7: all that's important to me. Individual accolades don't really matter
Speaker 7: too much.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: I want to play goodball always. But what I want
Speaker 7: is for this place to be return to the top.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I want to be top four,
Speaker 7: top five agains like there were some years ago. I
Speaker 7: want to do that stuff. I want to bring that
Speaker 7: energy back. So that's what I'm looking forward to doing.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like, you know, to piggyback on what
Speaker 5: he was saying, you know, just winning, you know how
Speaker 5: important that is. You kind of see like how important
Speaker 5: it is to everybody on the team too, like just
Speaker 5: with the energy coming in. So I think this year,
Speaker 5: you know, players to win, you know, win as much
Speaker 5: games as possible, and really this year will set the
Speaker 5: tone for the years after that and just build from there.
Speaker 5: And I think this, like I think this program like
Speaker 5: could be playing for pac toil championship, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be surprised if it happened this year, and definitely not
Speaker 5: you know, the next couple of years. On top of that,
Speaker 5: especially with the older guys, they come in like set
Speaker 5: the tone, like no egos, you know, helping a lot
Speaker 5: of the younger dudes out. And that always shows a
Speaker 5: lot about a team, you know, because been on like
Speaker 5: some team with individuals, you guys, you can't win like
Speaker 5: that no matter how talented you are. So and coaches
Speaker 5: big on like tradition, you know, and having a culture,
Speaker 5: you know, so he's definitely trying to bring that back
Speaker 5: here and like, yeah, I think I think sky is
Speaker 5: really the limit. Like I'm not even just saying that,
Speaker 5: like we'll shock some people.
Speaker 6: We appreciate you guys, man, I do want to know
Speaker 6: when when was the Arizona State in the top five?
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, whenever they played Notre Dame that year they
Speaker 7: lost to Oregon State in the last game of the season.
Speaker 3: But I'm just checking, just checking.
Speaker 1: They said back Yeah, they said back to the top.
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, Yeah, I know in fact,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 8: Take that actually have it. Hey, I appreciate you guys, man.
Speaker 8: Guess what okay, so not top. We didn't you do that,
Speaker 8: But that's what he's talking. He's like, he trying to
Speaker 8: get him back back in there.
Speaker 2: That conversation.
Speaker 3: Hey, we appreciate you guys many yeah.
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