WEBVTT - Introducing Charlie’s Place

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin music, dance lyrics. The creation of it, more than

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<v Speaker 1>any judge's gabble, brought the races together.

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<v Speaker 2>In the nineteen thirties, forties and fifties, segregation was the law,

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<v Speaker 2>but one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his

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<v Speaker 2>own rules. Segregation in the day, integration that night.

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<v Speaker 1>And dance, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't worry about what went on outside.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like stiffing in another world.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside Charlie's place, black and white people could listen to

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<v Speaker 2>music and dance together.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, I've see so many people up in there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was grown and people from all over South Carolinas

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<v Speaker 2>are jolly fish, sure please. Charlie's was on the Chitlin

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<v Speaker 2>Circuit where black artists could perform in the South.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard of him. Oh yees, God, Ruth Brown, j Brown,

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<v Speaker 3>Curtis Mayfield, you're drifted with Otis Red. At Domino, we

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<v Speaker 3>had as many whites as we had blacks when they

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<v Speaker 3>had a.

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<v Speaker 2>Band, but not everyone was happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was a lot of shooting. Peoples running there

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<v Speaker 1>in through the building and the shot and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>During that time, they was, you know, looking for Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>and you saw the KKK.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they was dressed up in their uniform.

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<v Speaker 3>The KKK set out to ray Charlie, take him away

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<v Speaker 3>from here. He wanted people to unite and some just

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<v Speaker 3>did not want that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was paying close attention to the things Charlie did.

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<v Speaker 2>But did anyone know who Charlie really was?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he came from Jamaica, someplace.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saving you from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>They came from north Nobody knew exactly where. Nobody talked

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<v Speaker 1>about where he came from. A lot of people knew him,

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<v Speaker 1>but didn't really know him. He was using another name.

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<v Speaker 1>Where he found out Charlie was big question mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he a businessman, a showman, a criminal, a hero?

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie was an example, a power.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to crush you.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie's Place a nightclub that defied segregation, A man who

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<v Speaker 2>became a legend, A story that was nearly lost to

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<v Speaker 2>time until now. A five part series from Atlas Obscura

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<v Speaker 2>and Rococo Punch in partnership with Pushkin Industries and presented

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