WEBVTT - Time Capsule: Shōgun 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.640 Hello, it's me Rosie Night. Last night that Emmy's happened 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:10.640 in a historic fashion with unbelievable wins for Shogun, including 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.600 historical wins for Hirooki, Sonata, my all time Faith, and 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.240 the incredible Anna So why from Monarch and of course 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.119 who leads Shogun? So we are delaying the release of 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.200 our Netflix animation episode so that we can bring you 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.720 our Shogun Time Capsules special just in time to celebrate 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:39.560 the eighteen wins that Shogun took home from the Emmys. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:49.520 Hello. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.240 My name is Jasonceps and I'm Rosie Knight, and welcome 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.120 to x Ravision, the podcast where we dive deep into 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.320 your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming to 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.320 you now Heart Radio, where we're bringing you two episodes 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.880 a week every Thursday. Today, jumping into the time Capsule 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:11.520 to catch up on the incredible, the majestic, the action 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:19.440 packed Showgun on FX. Here is the recap, folks. Now, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.399 before we dive into the lightning as lightning as you 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:27.000 can possibly make a recap of an adaptation of a 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.720 book that was eleven hundred pages long and features a 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.760 lot of characters, just understand that we're we're gonna move 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.200 as fast as we can, but it is complicated. We 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.520 open in sixteen hundred. John Blackthorne, English pilot of a 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.880 Dutch trading vessel, the Erasmus, along with his crew are 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.440 taken prisoner off the coast of Japan. And believe me, folks, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.200 Blackthorn is going to complain about this for the rest 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.559 of the series. He will not. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.760 Shot up a crew. And also, can I just say 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:57.120 they were also saved. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:58.480 Get me a back to my crew. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.840 Like this man, they was death. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.640 This is going well for the very poor. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.680 This should be like at least slightly grateful. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.240 So the issue the landscape in Japan right now, it's 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.200 very fragmented. There is no overall leader, the tycho, the showgun. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.800 Not there. There is a boy heir to the throne, 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:29.200 who is being steered by five high lords, five regents. 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:35.280 This is called the Regency Council. Meanwhile, Portuguese Catholic traders 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.680 are all over the country attempting to exploiting. They are 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.120 everywhere trying to exploit the country's isolation and it's disunity 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.400 in order to enrich themselves. And Blackthorn is a problem 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.360 for them because the Japanese don't really have all the 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.280 information about what's going on in the wider world and 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.880 the kind of goals that the Portuguese have. Blackthorne knows 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.960 about it, so they would like him dead. Blackthorn is 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:06.119 taken to Osaka Castle, where he meets Lord Taranaga, who 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:11.520 is our primary protagonist and his vassal and translator, Lady Marico. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.600 Toronaga is one of those five aforementioned regents chosen to 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.920 rule in place of the Air and Future Tycho because 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.280 he's just a kid stone. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.440 And we got to say, as we'll find out, Toronaga 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.360 actually turned down the chance to be the sole regent. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.359 He was like, I don't want it. I don't want 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:35.080 a wall. We've got to protect your son, We've got 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.400 to protect the future, you know, Ruler. So he's a 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.920 very interesting figure played by legendary Japanese actor. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:46.040 Harry one of the most handsome men of all time, 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:50.440 all the time his life, yes, throughout his life. And 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.080 by the way, one more thing about Tornanga. Very smart, 0:03:54.360 --> 0:04:00.760 very wily, very strategically brilliant man who turned down the 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.240 big chair because he knew it would make him the 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.600 big target. So he's a very very smart guy. Now, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.080 the other four regents led by Lord Ashido. They all 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.880 want Tornaga out of the way because he's very very smart, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.080 very very dangerous, and very very popular. Tornaga is a 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.680 captive at Osaka Castle and all but name, and he 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.520 sees Blackthorne as kind of like a useful lever to 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.640 separate his enemies because they all have their own competing interest. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.039 Ishido wants to be the guy. He wants to be 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.120 the emperor, the tycho, wants all the power in his hands. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.240 Sad Naga recently converted to Christianity for the purposes of 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:48.839 getting rich baby, getting them money baby. Sugiyama just kind 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.039 of like doesn't like Tornaga and is basically supportive of 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.960 any efforts that would bring him down. And then there's Haronobu, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.520 who is a leper and he seems he's also a 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.159 Christian and it seems more sincerely dedicated to Christianity and 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.480 certainly in increasing its influence throughout the country. Yeah, Ishido 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.560 initiates a vote to throw Tornaga out of the regents, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.080 after which they can do whatever they want to. But 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:19.359 as Tornoga planned get used to hearing that phrase, the 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.840 Christian regions are so focused on getting Blackthorn out of 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.320 the way that they say, we're not voting until you 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:30.440 kill the pilot. Tornaga saves Blackthorn from being assassinated by 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.120 Ninja's incredible seed, yeah. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.280 Which is ironic because Blackthorne sees it as a way 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.720 to get in Toronaga's good books, so he saves Toronaga. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.400 But Toronaga is also saving Blackthorn because the assassins were 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.280 really there for Blackthorn and not that's our Naga. And 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.479 it's just worth mentioning here, like the action in this 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.200 show is so unbelievable when it happens. We're talking about 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:59.080 the political machinations because this is a show about historical 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.480 fiction about political machinations in Japan, but it's also appressed 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:07.880 these TV show with incredible action, stunning costume design, and 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:12.640 unbelievable production design, and it's so immersive and it is just, yeah, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:13.640 just what a show. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:20.960 The cinematography is as good as anything you'll see. They do. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.560 They use different lenses for these different foregrounding effects where 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.640 stuff in the background has kind of blurred out. They 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.359 use they put in this like vignette effect, so it 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.240 looks like you're looking at like an old photograph. It's 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:38.359 just wonderful. So Tornaga sends Blackthorn to the village of 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.039 a Duro, which he controls along with his wife Kiri, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:45.280 in order that he will be safe. But again, Lord 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.960 Tornaga very crafty. He switches places secretly with his wife 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.960 and they all manage to escape by Osaka by ship, 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.800 although it's a little dicey at times. Tornaga tries to 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.520 leave Blackthorn behind for the Portuguese as kind of like 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:06.560 his the price offering escaping the blockade, but Blackthorn is 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.080 very stubborn. He refuses to just go away. He takes 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.920 the ship that he's been loaded on and erases it 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.400 through the blockade and catches up to Tornaga, who's like, okay, 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.840 you're my new you're my new military consultant, basically a hatamoto. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.520 You can you can have swords and stuff, and you 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:25.720 can be a military man. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.800 And he wants them to teach him the ways of 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:34.640 the English and Portuguese and European military. But hilariously, Blackthorn 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.040 doesn't know shit about that because he's just been He's 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:41.520 just a sailor, like he has to blag it. And 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.960 and the pair of them are kind of this wily 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:49.000 little duo who are abusing each other for their own games, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.200 but kind of become this unexpected power pairing. And at 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.760 the same time we have Anna Sauai, who I just 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:01.680 love from Monarch, as as Marico Lady Rico, who has 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:06.440 this incredibly powerful role in the story because she is 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.080 the translator. So there's been lots of really fantastic meanings 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:15.440 about how you know, John Blackthorn, he'll be like doing 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:16.320 some long. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.840 I tost you down, I shit on your face, I 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.440 piss on you, I piss on your leg, I piss 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.800 on your entire root and branch. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:28.840 Is like. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:35.080 He says, yes, he'll do it, like she is just 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.720 getting like he's always getting destroyed, like people have been 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.040 doing really good ones where he's like, you know, you 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.119 just don't understand, Like I had to walk. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.439 All the way here, I came a long way. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.160 I worked all my life to get to this place. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:54.320 And she's gonna be like, uh, the engine said that 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.840 he made his way here easily, Like she's always. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.480 Just playing him and like limiting well. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.320 His true messages, which honestly she is saving his life 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:05.280 by doing that. 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.880 That's what I was about to say. It's increasingly protective 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.920 as kind of against both of their better judgments. A 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:20.800 warmth grows between them, because, as we will see, Marico 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:25.680 is as much an outsider in this political faction, almost 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.520 as Blackthorn is in a gyro. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.760 Guess what Blackthorn wants to get back to his ship? 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.719 My crew, my ship, and my crew sent me back 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:35.080 to them. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.000 No luck there, but he does get a handsome wage. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:45.480 He gets a beautiful apartment and a consort. Usami the 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.880 granddaughter of Hiramatsu, who is Tornaga's most dedicated and most 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.360 hard line general. He's older than Tornaga, has known him 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.880 since he was a little kid. Usami is a deeply, deeply, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:02.000 deeply tragic figure. Her her husband spoke up at an 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.520 earlier Council of Regents meeting, spoke out of turn. That 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.720 was very shameful for him. The only way he could 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.360 expunge that shame was by committing ritual suicide and also 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.680 uh killing his own infant son. So Uhuzami has lost 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.000 her husband, lost her son, and is now bears the 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:26.640 burden of this shame. Meanwhile, Yabashiga Tornaga's death obsessed constantly 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:31.520 scheming but unfortunately not very smart, general keeps wondering when, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.280 how or if at all he can turn all of 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.280 this political tumult to his advantage. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:42.040 Yeah, and that's Tadanobusano, who's like another icon Itchi ta Kila. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.880 He's Hogan from Thor's he was a punk rocker in 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.319 Japan years ago. He's had such an unlook. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.720 Yeah. True, he's had such. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.240 An unbelievable career. He's now doing a lot of art 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.360 and I love that Yabashige essentially becomes like the fan 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.040 fave of char in this show because he's so self serving. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.480 He's like this warlord who has bigger dreams and he 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.640 will turn on a dime, and he's always doing a 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:13.640 heel turn and betraying people. But Tadanobu brings this warmth 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:19.320 and this charm and this sort of irreverence to him because. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:20.319 He's a lateness. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.719 He wants he does want the power. He does want 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.720 to know how things can turn in his kind of favor. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.960 But he's also seen so much that he sort of 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.920 laughs at the inner workings and the war games of 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.839 the shogun wannabes, like he just feels like it's all ridiculous. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.600 He's kind of a nihilist in that way, but he 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.360 has this this warmth and comedy to him. That makes 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:42.280 him so appealing. 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.960 I completely agree. Ishidoh. Lord Ashido, through a messenger, tells 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.680 Yabashiga to return to Osaka for a big meeting in 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:55.760 which he will swear his continuing allegiance to the Regency 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:00.880 Council and to the Air. But Yeahbashiga knows, like Tommy 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.840 and Goodfellas, he will be killed if he goes back 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:07.839 to Kasaka. It'll be the end instead. Uh Nagakado Tornaga's 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:13.839 boneheaded but dedicated sons. Yeah, like he's stupid, He's try 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.760 something really hard. Yeah, he loves his dad, he wants 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.120 to impress him, but he's not as smart as his father. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.720 To be fair, no one is. Yeah, murders the Shidos 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:30.000 messengers during display of Lord Tarnaga's cannons, and this makes 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.920 Dad really really unhappy. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.000 And it's really just this is the scene where I 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.800 feel like they knew people were gonna be like, Okay, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.760 so this is the new Game of Thrones, vibe, this 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.839 is the new Prestige TV. Where's the gore? And they 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.120 were like, well, we're gonna take We're gonna take the 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.800 cannons off the Erasmus and we're gonna take them, and 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.960 you know, Black Phone's gonna teach them how to use 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.800 the cannons, and then we're gonna have this huge moment 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.560 where Shido's men show up and these are like high lords, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.840 like he doesn't send nobody's you know, and uh and 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.160 Toronaga's son decides, well, we're going to shoot them with 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.240 these cannons to kind of show what happens. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:15.080 And they blowing off arms, exploding bodies and courses and 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.760 they were laying on the ground and he's saying, this 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.880 isn't how a samurai fights, and he's like, you know, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.920 arms hanging off. That was such a gruesome ending to 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.240 episode four, but I feel like it was really well utilized. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.480 Like when they use horrific violence in this show, it's 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.680 very impactful. And this is a great moment too, because 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:40.480 it kind of shows that impact that Western weaponry had 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:45.480 and this on this totally different landscape and uh yeah, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.160 Taranaga smart Tornaga decides he's going to pretend that this 0:13:50.280 --> 0:14:04.040 was always the past as always. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:15.360 Meanwhile, Marico and Blackthorn have begun pillowing sleeping. This gets 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:20.160 complicated when her fierce and everybody. A lot of people 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.840 are very sad in the show, It's sad time. One 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:28.000 of them is her husband, Bintaro, who is eaten from 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.680 the inside out by sadness and anger. He gets super 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.960 drunk and we get some of Marico's backstory. We're learned 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.120 that she is the lone survivor of a family that 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:46.280 turned on the previous ruler and then to expunge that shame, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.800 the leader of that family, her father had to basically 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.200 kill at his hand everyone in the family and then 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.960 commit ritual suicide. And she is the only survivor and 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.920 she's been married to Bintaro to atone for that. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.200 And the only reason that she was not killed is 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.400 because she was going to be married to Bintara and 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.840 she or she was Bintara's wife. And he just like 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.960 hates life. He's quite horrible to her. Hate he's mean 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.720 to that kid, like he's just not a viby guy. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.960 But you do, you do learn as it goes on 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.320 that he is on his own journey and he loves 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.640 her so much, he just doesn't really know how to 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:23.160 show it. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:30.480 Meanwhile, Blackthorn is up to letting animals rot. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.920 He's like, oh, I'm going to I'm going to show 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.360 you the one that was of English stew He's got 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.400 this squirrel here and I'm going to let it ratful 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.440 nigh on three weeks and with the insides have turned 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.600 to a liquid, wonderful and juicy to cook. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:50.080 And his his servants and the people around him are 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.280 disgusted at this, and also of course black live. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:54.880 I need to get back to my ship, my crew, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.080 where are they? He needs to get back to his ship. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.800 In Osaka, word a Hido's plan are getting even more 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.760 tangled when Ochiba, the mother of the air and a 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.920 power player in her own right, arrives and says, okay, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.400 Regency Council, guess what now, you're gonna listen to me 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.360 because everything's going sideways. It's all getting fucked up. You're 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.800 fucking it up, and I will now have a voice 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.400 in these affairs. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.920 Such a good that's such a good moment. That she's 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.960 kind of the puppet masta behind Taranaga's full well that 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.720 hoped full of Tara. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.800 That hoped for fall. And in the flashback we learned 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.800 that Marico in Achiba were childhood friends before all the 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:35.120 bad shit happened. A Chiba and Ashido now take the 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:40.040 other regents prisoner, though They go through great prains at 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.240 times to pretend that people aren't prisoners when they actually 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:49.720 are guests. But you can, but don't go anywhere. Yeah, 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.520 Hiu Matsu, the hardline general escapes. Excuse me, hear Maatsi, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.800 one of the regions, escapes and tells Tornago what's going on. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:06.160 Tornaga rudgingly begins putting his secret war planned Crimson Sky 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.040 into motion. We get a flashback. We were learning that 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.640 when Tarnaga was a kid, he was like Lebron James 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.920 was like, he was like a child prodigy. He won 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.600 like an incredible crushing victory when he was like thirteen 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:24.040 years old, and Hiramatsu's been with him that whole time. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:29.159 In the present, he needs to get stronger. He tries 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.280 to mend fences with his half brother Ssayiki so they 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.240 can unite against Hido. But Seika says, you know what, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:41.080 maybe I'd do that, but I've just been offered a 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:46.240 job on the Regency Council and sorry about it, and 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.119 I'm taking a prisoner, and you have to surrender to 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:54.040 Lord Ashida. Tornaga says, okay I will surrender his vassals, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:59.480 his son, his generals. They are shocked They can't believe 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.240 that that Lord Turnaga would even consider this. It must 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.040 be a trick, right, It's gotta be a trick. No, 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.920 Lord Turtuck is like, I'm doing it. I'm surrendering his son, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:15.240 the beautifully thick headed Nagadaka. Nagadaco says well, I'm not 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.959 gonna let that happen, and so he attacks Psyik. He 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.960 tries to kill him, but it said he slips on 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.520 a rock in a pond and he dies. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.880 Yeah, this was such a brutal, unexpected ad too. It's 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.159 one of those horrible like wow, did that just happen? 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.560 It's like, okay, that's ripizza. 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:40.200 That son Psyche survives, joins the regency council. Tornaga says, okay, 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.920 I'm still gonna surrender, but after the forty nine day 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.280 morning period for my son, of course, and again his 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.960 generals are like, don't do it. Don't what you can't 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.560 do it. Hiramatsu now is like I'm begging you not 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.800 to do it, and Tornaka is like, well, I'm doing it, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.280 and then he says, well, I'm gonna kill myself if 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.280 you do it. Ritually cut my belly open. And I 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:01.560 was like, well, I don't want you to do that, 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:07.280 but I'm still gonna go surrender, And Hiramatsu doesn't. He 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:16.159 he kills himself. But shockingly, Lord Tornaga has kind of 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.880 set these pieces in motion, the death of his son, 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:24.159 the suicide of his most cherished and loyal general, so 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.240 that Lord Ashida's defenses will be all the way down 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:33.640 because he will believe that I get that Lord here. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:35.639 Of course he's gonna do. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:35.800 So. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.879 He sends Marico as Osaka to be his messenger and 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.800 deliver the messages that he wants to deliver to the 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.359 Regency Council, telling them, yeah, I'm gonna surrender, but listen, 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.280 there's some things I have to do for us. First, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:53.480 Blackthorne goes with her, still complaining about his fucking dims ship. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:55.560 But also, I will. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.800 Say in Blackthorn's defense in this case, which I would 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.840 rarely say, but he rarely doesn't want Marico to go 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.199 to Osaka. He knows this is a bad idea. He's like, 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.320 just don't go. Like he's like, just like, don't do it, man, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.480 this is like a bad, bad idea. You do not 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.760 need to go and be the messenger. But Marico is 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:16.000 She is dedicated. To this plan, and as we kind 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.159 of learned earlier, she is in a similar situation to 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.600 Asami West. She really wants to join her family and death. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.919 She doesn't have a lot to live for she you know, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.960 she does love. She has this burgeoning love for black Don. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.560 She loves her family, but really she wants to join 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.240 those who were killed many years before. 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:41.560 That's right. Meanwhile, Yebshi tries to switch sides, but he 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.640 is denied. Adding to what you said, Rosie, I think 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:50.359 another really fun motivation for Yebishiga is he he just 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.960 wants to know what's going on. Yeah, he just wants 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.320 to be He just wants to be a part of it. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.480 He doesn't really want to make moves. 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.520 No, he wants to be in the room where it happened. 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.919 He yeah, that's it. He's just like, whoever's gonna let 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:04.840 him do that? Lord Ashido, is it you? Or are 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.560 you gonna tell me what's going on? And he keeps 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.399 He's constantly begging Tornaga tell him what what is? What 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.720 is your plan? Tells you what your plan? What is it? 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.679 Rico eventually tries to leave after fulfilling some of her 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.600 duties there in Osaka, saying my lord, you know, just 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:25.520 sent me here to deliver some messages, and now he 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.719 requires me that I come back. But Ashido and Ochiba 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.399 are like, no, you are a guest, but actually you 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.560 can't leave. And there's a big fight at the gate 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.400 where her retinue or slaughtered, and she tries to fight, 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:41.920 but she's absolutely cance. 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.639 But it's such a cool scene. It's amazing, and she 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:50.199 knows that by doing this she is gonna allah the prisoners. 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:55.880 She's basically calling his bluff on politeness because she's saying, well, 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.880 you said we can leave at any time, and we're 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.280 not prisoners, so I'm gonna try and leave. And you 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.240 see that they just keep fighting and killing her, because really, 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:04.960 if she leaves, then everyone else can. 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.200 Leave, right the other notables, the other regions, especially who 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:13.879 are secretly hostages there. Though again Ishidas, pretending they're not hostages, 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:18.920 would they would flee, but they because of this now 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.560 kind of realize these other people, these other notable people 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.719 hostage at the castle, are like, wait a second, are 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:28.040 we prisoners? Also, Marico announces that she will kill herself 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.159 at the end of the day, which is Shido, for 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:34.000 various political reasons, cannot allow. He can't let that happen, so. 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.480 So he goes and he stops her, and he says, 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.520 he's starter, you don't have to do this. She's to 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.359 kill herself because she couldn't fulfill Toro Naga's you know, 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.359 wishes to leave and as she's his vassal, that's shameful. 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.800 And then he's like, no, I don't leave. Everything's okay, 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:48.919 you can just leave tomorrow. 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.119 Here's a podon like, yeah, we got you apart. You 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:51.720 just needed the. 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:53.960 Papers, you just needed the leaving papers that. 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.000 We miss what I went down to the office. I 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.200 got you the exit papers. 0:22:58.240 --> 0:22:58.560 Boom. 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.320 You can leave in the more. But of course she's 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.000 not gonna let that happen, so he sends in ninja's 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:08.440 to kidnap her, and in the end, Marico and Blackthorn 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.040 they fight off the ninjas. They end up pulled out 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:12.960 in like a storage room. 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.720 With her with her ladies in waiting and her retinue. 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:23.960 The ninja's blow open the door with gunpowder. Marico takes 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.120 the full blast. She stands in front of the door. 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.480 She knows, she knows it's gonna happen. She wants to 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.040 protect the other people and she does. She saves black 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.080 Thorn's life, she saves the other people, and I think 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.800 it's a very interesting moment because obviously we're all rooting 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.280 for Mariko. She becomes like she's one of the main 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.040 core cast in the show. But even in that moment, 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:48.359 she actually gets to die with agency, like she chooses it, 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:52.200 She chooses to save these people. She cares about it. 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:56.000 I remember the end of that episode, like everyone was 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:57.760 hitting me up, going do you have screeners? 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.440 Is she still alive? Like did she really die? 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.080 And it was like a huge that was just such 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.399 a huge talking point. I think people were really shocked, 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.320 which is funny because the book exists and the other 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.320 TV show exists, so this has already been established. But 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.800 people were so invested in the show that they were 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.320 not getting spoiled even though it had existed for so long, 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.760