1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hello, it's me Rosie Night. Last night that Emmy's happened 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: in a historic fashion with unbelievable wins for Shogun, including 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: historical wins for Hirooki, Sonata, my all time Faith, and 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: the incredible Anna So why from Monarch and of course 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: who leads Shogun? So we are delaying the release of 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: our Netflix animation episode so that we can bring you 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: our Shogun Time Capsules special just in time to celebrate 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: the eighteen wins that Shogun took home from the Emmys. 9 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: Hello. 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: My name is Jasonceps and I'm Rosie Knight, and welcome 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: to x Ravision, the podcast where we dive deep into 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming to 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: you now Heart Radio, where we're bringing you two episodes 14 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: a week every Thursday. Today, jumping into the time Capsule 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: to catch up on the incredible, the majestic, the action 16 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: packed Showgun on FX. Here is the recap, folks. Now, 17 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: before we dive into the lightning as lightning as you 18 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: can possibly make a recap of an adaptation of a 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: book that was eleven hundred pages long and features a 20 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: lot of characters, just understand that we're we're gonna move 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: as fast as we can, but it is complicated. We 22 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: open in sixteen hundred. John Blackthorne, English pilot of a 23 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: Dutch trading vessel, the Erasmus, along with his crew are 24 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: taken prisoner off the coast of Japan. And believe me, folks, 25 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: Blackthorn is going to complain about this for the rest 26 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 3: of the series. He will not. 27 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Shot up a crew. And also, can I just say 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: they were also saved. 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: Get me a back to my crew. 30 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Like this man, they was death. 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: This is going well for the very poor. 32 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: This should be like at least slightly grateful. 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: So the issue the landscape in Japan right now, it's 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: very fragmented. There is no overall leader, the tycho, the showgun. 35 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: Not there. There is a boy heir to the throne, 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: who is being steered by five high lords, five regents. 37 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: This is called the Regency Council. Meanwhile, Portuguese Catholic traders 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: are all over the country attempting to exploiting. They are 39 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: everywhere trying to exploit the country's isolation and it's disunity 40 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: in order to enrich themselves. And Blackthorn is a problem 41 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: for them because the Japanese don't really have all the 42 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: information about what's going on in the wider world and 43 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: the kind of goals that the Portuguese have. Blackthorne knows 44 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: about it, so they would like him dead. Blackthorn is 45 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: taken to Osaka Castle, where he meets Lord Taranaga, who 46 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: is our primary protagonist and his vassal and translator, Lady Marico. 47 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: Toronaga is one of those five aforementioned regents chosen to 48 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: rule in place of the Air and Future Tycho because 49 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: he's just a kid stone. 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: And we got to say, as we'll find out, Toronaga 51 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: actually turned down the chance to be the sole regent. 52 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't want it. I don't want 53 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: a wall. We've got to protect your son, We've got 54 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: to protect the future, you know, Ruler. So he's a 55 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: very interesting figure played by legendary Japanese actor. 56 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: Harry one of the most handsome men of all time, 57 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: all the time his life, yes, throughout his life. And 58 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: by the way, one more thing about Tornanga. Very smart, 59 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: very wily, very strategically brilliant man who turned down the 60 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: big chair because he knew it would make him the 61 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: big target. So he's a very very smart guy. Now, 62 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: the other four regents led by Lord Ashido. They all 63 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: want Tornaga out of the way because he's very very smart, 64 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: very very dangerous, and very very popular. Tornaga is a 65 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: captive at Osaka Castle and all but name, and he 66 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: sees Blackthorne as kind of like a useful lever to 67 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: separate his enemies because they all have their own competing interest. 68 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: Ishido wants to be the guy. He wants to be 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: the emperor, the tycho, wants all the power in his hands. 70 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: Sad Naga recently converted to Christianity for the purposes of 71 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: getting rich baby, getting them money baby. Sugiyama just kind 72 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: of like doesn't like Tornaga and is basically supportive of 73 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: any efforts that would bring him down. And then there's Haronobu, 74 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: who is a leper and he seems he's also a 75 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: Christian and it seems more sincerely dedicated to Christianity and 76 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: certainly in increasing its influence throughout the country. Yeah, Ishido 77 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: initiates a vote to throw Tornaga out of the regents, 78 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: after which they can do whatever they want to. But 79 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: as Tornoga planned get used to hearing that phrase, the 80 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: Christian regions are so focused on getting Blackthorn out of 81 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: the way that they say, we're not voting until you 82 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: kill the pilot. Tornaga saves Blackthorn from being assassinated by 83 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: Ninja's incredible seed, yeah. 84 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Which is ironic because Blackthorne sees it as a way 85 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: to get in Toronaga's good books, so he saves Toronaga. 86 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: But Toronaga is also saving Blackthorn because the assassins were 87 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: really there for Blackthorn and not that's our Naga. And 88 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: it's just worth mentioning here, like the action in this 89 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: show is so unbelievable when it happens. We're talking about 90 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: the political machinations because this is a show about historical 91 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: fiction about political machinations in Japan, but it's also appressed 92 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: these TV show with incredible action, stunning costume design, and 93 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: unbelievable production design, and it's so immersive and it is just, yeah, 94 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: just what a show. 95 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: The cinematography is as good as anything you'll see. They do. 96 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: They use different lenses for these different foregrounding effects where 97 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: stuff in the background has kind of blurred out. They 98 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: use they put in this like vignette effect, so it 99 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: looks like you're looking at like an old photograph. It's 100 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 3: just wonderful. So Tornaga sends Blackthorn to the village of 101 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: a Duro, which he controls along with his wife Kiri, 102 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: in order that he will be safe. But again, Lord 103 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: Tornaga very crafty. He switches places secretly with his wife 104 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: and they all manage to escape by Osaka by ship, 105 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: although it's a little dicey at times. Tornaga tries to 106 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: leave Blackthorn behind for the Portuguese as kind of like 107 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: his the price offering escaping the blockade, but Blackthorn is 108 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: very stubborn. He refuses to just go away. He takes 109 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: the ship that he's been loaded on and erases it 110 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: through the blockade and catches up to Tornaga, who's like, okay, 111 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: you're my new you're my new military consultant, basically a hatamoto. 112 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: You can you can have swords and stuff, and you 113 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: can be a military man. 114 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: And he wants them to teach him the ways of 115 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: the English and Portuguese and European military. But hilariously, Blackthorn 116 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: doesn't know shit about that because he's just been He's 117 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: just a sailor, like he has to blag it. And 118 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: and the pair of them are kind of this wily 119 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: little duo who are abusing each other for their own games, 120 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: but kind of become this unexpected power pairing. And at 121 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: the same time we have Anna Sauai, who I just 122 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: love from Monarch, as as Marico Lady Rico, who has 123 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: this incredibly powerful role in the story because she is 124 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: the translator. So there's been lots of really fantastic meanings 125 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: about how you know, John Blackthorn, he'll be like doing 126 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: some long. 127 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: I tost you down, I shit on your face, I 128 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: piss on you, I piss on your leg, I piss 129 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: on your entire root and branch. 130 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: Is like. 131 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: He says, yes, he'll do it, like she is just 132 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: getting like he's always getting destroyed, like people have been 133 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: doing really good ones where he's like, you know, you 134 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,119 Speaker 1: just don't understand, Like I had to walk. 135 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: All the way here, I came a long way. 136 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: I worked all my life to get to this place. 137 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: And she's gonna be like, uh, the engine said that 138 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: he made his way here easily, Like she's always. 139 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: Just playing him and like limiting well. 140 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: His true messages, which honestly she is saving his life 141 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: by doing that. 142 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say. It's increasingly protective 143 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: as kind of against both of their better judgments. A 144 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: warmth grows between them, because, as we will see, Marico 145 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: is as much an outsider in this political faction, almost 146 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: as Blackthorn is in a gyro. 147 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: Guess what Blackthorn wants to get back to his ship? 148 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 4: My crew, my ship, and my crew sent me back 149 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: to them. 150 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: No luck there, but he does get a handsome wage. 151 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: He gets a beautiful apartment and a consort. Usami the 152 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: granddaughter of Hiramatsu, who is Tornaga's most dedicated and most 153 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: hard line general. He's older than Tornaga, has known him 154 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: since he was a little kid. Usami is a deeply, deeply, 155 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: deeply tragic figure. Her her husband spoke up at an 156 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: earlier Council of Regents meeting, spoke out of turn. That 157 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: was very shameful for him. The only way he could 158 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: expunge that shame was by committing ritual suicide and also 159 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: uh killing his own infant son. So Uhuzami has lost 160 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: her husband, lost her son, and is now bears the 161 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: burden of this shame. Meanwhile, Yabashiga Tornaga's death obsessed constantly 162 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: scheming but unfortunately not very smart, general keeps wondering when, 163 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: how or if at all he can turn all of 164 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: this political tumult to his advantage. 165 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's Tadanobusano, who's like another icon Itchi ta Kila. 166 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: He's Hogan from Thor's he was a punk rocker in 167 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: Japan years ago. He's had such an unlook. 168 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. True, he's had such. 169 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: An unbelievable career. He's now doing a lot of art 170 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: and I love that Yabashige essentially becomes like the fan 171 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: fave of char in this show because he's so self serving. 172 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: He's like this warlord who has bigger dreams and he 173 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: will turn on a dime, and he's always doing a 174 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: heel turn and betraying people. But Tadanobu brings this warmth 175 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: and this charm and this sort of irreverence to him because. 176 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: He's a lateness. 177 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: He wants he does want the power. He does want 178 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: to know how things can turn in his kind of favor. 179 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: But he's also seen so much that he sort of 180 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: laughs at the inner workings and the war games of 181 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: the shogun wannabes, like he just feels like it's all ridiculous. 182 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: He's kind of a nihilist in that way, but he 183 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: has this this warmth and comedy to him. That makes 184 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: him so appealing. 185 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: I completely agree. Ishidoh. Lord Ashido, through a messenger, tells 186 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: Yabashiga to return to Osaka for a big meeting in 187 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: which he will swear his continuing allegiance to the Regency 188 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: Council and to the Air. But Yeahbashiga knows, like Tommy 189 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: and Goodfellas, he will be killed if he goes back 190 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 3: to Kasaka. It'll be the end instead. Uh Nagakado Tornaga's 191 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 3: boneheaded but dedicated sons. Yeah, like he's stupid, He's try 192 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: something really hard. Yeah, he loves his dad, he wants 193 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: to impress him, but he's not as smart as his father. 194 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: To be fair, no one is. Yeah, murders the Shidos 195 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: messengers during display of Lord Tarnaga's cannons, and this makes 196 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: Dad really really unhappy. 197 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: And it's really just this is the scene where I 198 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: feel like they knew people were gonna be like, Okay, 199 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: so this is the new Game of Thrones, vibe, this 200 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: is the new Prestige TV. Where's the gore? And they 201 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: were like, well, we're gonna take We're gonna take the 202 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: cannons off the Erasmus and we're gonna take them, and 203 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, Black Phone's gonna teach them how to use 204 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: the cannons, and then we're gonna have this huge moment 205 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: where Shido's men show up and these are like high lords, 206 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: like he doesn't send nobody's you know, and uh and 207 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Toronaga's son decides, well, we're going to shoot them with 208 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: these cannons to kind of show what happens. 209 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 5: And they blowing off arms, exploding bodies and courses and 210 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: they were laying on the ground and he's saying, this 211 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: isn't how a samurai fights, and he's like, you know, 212 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 5: arms hanging off. That was such a gruesome ending to 213 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: episode four, but I feel like it was really well utilized. 214 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 5: Like when they use horrific violence in this show, it's 215 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 5: very impactful. And this is a great moment too, because 216 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 5: it kind of shows that impact that Western weaponry had 217 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 5: and this on this totally different landscape and uh yeah, 218 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 5: Taranaga smart Tornaga decides he's going to pretend that this 219 00:13:50,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: was always the past as always. 220 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Marico and Blackthorn have begun pillowing sleeping. This gets 221 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: complicated when her fierce and everybody. A lot of people 222 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: are very sad in the show, It's sad time. One 223 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: of them is her husband, Bintaro, who is eaten from 224 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: the inside out by sadness and anger. He gets super 225 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: drunk and we get some of Marico's backstory. We're learned 226 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: that she is the lone survivor of a family that 227 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: turned on the previous ruler and then to expunge that shame, 228 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: the leader of that family, her father had to basically 229 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: kill at his hand everyone in the family and then 230 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: commit ritual suicide. And she is the only survivor and 231 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: she's been married to Bintaro to atone for that. 232 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: And the only reason that she was not killed is 233 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: because she was going to be married to Bintara and 234 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: she or she was Bintara's wife. And he just like 235 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: hates life. He's quite horrible to her. Hate he's mean 236 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: to that kid, like he's just not a viby guy. 237 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: But you do, you do learn as it goes on 238 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: that he is on his own journey and he loves 239 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: her so much, he just doesn't really know how to 240 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: show it. 241 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Blackthorn is up to letting animals rot. 242 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I'm going to I'm going to show 243 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: you the one that was of English stew He's got 244 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: this squirrel here and I'm going to let it ratful 245 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: nigh on three weeks and with the insides have turned 246 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: to a liquid, wonderful and juicy to cook. 247 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: And his his servants and the people around him are 248 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: disgusted at this, and also of course black live. 249 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: I need to get back to my ship, my crew, 250 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: where are they? He needs to get back to his ship. 251 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: In Osaka, word a Hido's plan are getting even more 252 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: tangled when Ochiba, the mother of the air and a 253 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: power player in her own right, arrives and says, okay, 254 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: Regency Council, guess what now, you're gonna listen to me 255 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: because everything's going sideways. It's all getting fucked up. You're 256 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: fucking it up, and I will now have a voice 257 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: in these affairs. 258 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Such a good that's such a good moment. That she's 259 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: kind of the puppet masta behind Taranaga's full well that 260 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: hoped full of Tara. 261 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: That hoped for fall. And in the flashback we learned 262 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: that Marico in Achiba were childhood friends before all the 263 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: bad shit happened. A Chiba and Ashido now take the 264 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: other regents prisoner, though They go through great prains at 265 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: times to pretend that people aren't prisoners when they actually 266 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: are guests. But you can, but don't go anywhere. Yeah, 267 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: Hiu Matsu, the hardline general escapes. Excuse me, hear Maatsi, 268 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: one of the regions, escapes and tells Tornago what's going on. 269 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: Tornaga rudgingly begins putting his secret war planned Crimson Sky 270 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: into motion. We get a flashback. We were learning that 271 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: when Tarnaga was a kid, he was like Lebron James 272 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: was like, he was like a child prodigy. He won 273 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: like an incredible crushing victory when he was like thirteen 274 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: years old, and Hiramatsu's been with him that whole time. 275 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: In the present, he needs to get stronger. He tries 276 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: to mend fences with his half brother Ssayiki so they 277 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: can unite against Hido. But Seika says, you know what, 278 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: maybe I'd do that, but I've just been offered a 279 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: job on the Regency Council and sorry about it, and 280 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: I'm taking a prisoner, and you have to surrender to 281 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: Lord Ashida. Tornaga says, okay I will surrender his vassals, 282 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: his son, his generals. They are shocked They can't believe 283 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: that that Lord Turnaga would even consider this. It must 284 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: be a trick, right, It's gotta be a trick. No, 285 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: Lord Turtuck is like, I'm doing it. I'm surrendering his son, 286 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: the beautifully thick headed Nagadaka. Nagadaco says well, I'm not 287 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 3: gonna let that happen, and so he attacks Psyik. He 288 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: tries to kill him, but it said he slips on 289 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: a rock in a pond and he dies. 290 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was such a brutal, unexpected ad too. It's 291 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: one of those horrible like wow, did that just happen? 292 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, that's ripizza. 293 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: That son Psyche survives, joins the regency council. Tornaga says, okay, 294 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm still gonna surrender, but after the forty nine day 295 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: morning period for my son, of course, and again his 296 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: generals are like, don't do it. Don't what you can't 297 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: do it. Hiramatsu now is like I'm begging you not 298 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: to do it, and Tornaka is like, well, I'm doing it, 299 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: and then he says, well, I'm gonna kill myself if 300 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: you do it. Ritually cut my belly open. And I 301 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: was like, well, I don't want you to do that, 302 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: but I'm still gonna go surrender, And Hiramatsu doesn't. He 303 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: he kills himself. But shockingly, Lord Tornaga has kind of 304 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: set these pieces in motion, the death of his son, 305 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: the suicide of his most cherished and loyal general, so 306 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: that Lord Ashida's defenses will be all the way down 307 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: because he will believe that I get that Lord here. 308 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: Of course he's gonna do. 309 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: So. 310 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: He sends Marico as Osaka to be his messenger and 311 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: deliver the messages that he wants to deliver to the 312 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: Regency Council, telling them, yeah, I'm gonna surrender, but listen, 313 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: there's some things I have to do for us. First, 314 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: Blackthorne goes with her, still complaining about his fucking dims ship. 315 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: But also, I will. 316 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: Say in Blackthorn's defense in this case, which I would 317 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: rarely say, but he rarely doesn't want Marico to go 318 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: to Osaka. He knows this is a bad idea. He's like, 319 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: just don't go. Like he's like, just like, don't do it, man, 320 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: this is like a bad, bad idea. You do not 321 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: need to go and be the messenger. But Marico is 322 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: She is dedicated. To this plan, and as we kind 323 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: of learned earlier, she is in a similar situation to 324 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: Asami West. She really wants to join her family and death. 325 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: She doesn't have a lot to live for she you know, 326 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: she does love. She has this burgeoning love for black Don. 327 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: She loves her family, but really she wants to join 328 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: those who were killed many years before. 329 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: That's right. Meanwhile, Yebshi tries to switch sides, but he 330 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: is denied. Adding to what you said, Rosie, I think 331 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: another really fun motivation for Yebishiga is he he just 332 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: wants to know what's going on. Yeah, he just wants 333 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: to be He just wants to be a part of it. 334 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: He doesn't really want to make moves. 335 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: No, he wants to be in the room where it happened. 336 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 3: He yeah, that's it. He's just like, whoever's gonna let 337 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: him do that? Lord Ashido, is it you? Or are 338 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: you gonna tell me what's going on? And he keeps 339 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: He's constantly begging Tornaga tell him what what is? What 340 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: is your plan? Tells you what your plan? What is it? 341 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 3: Rico eventually tries to leave after fulfilling some of her 342 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: duties there in Osaka, saying my lord, you know, just 343 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: sent me here to deliver some messages, and now he 344 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 3: requires me that I come back. But Ashido and Ochiba 345 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: are like, no, you are a guest, but actually you 346 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: can't leave. And there's a big fight at the gate 347 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: where her retinue or slaughtered, and she tries to fight, 348 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: but she's absolutely cance. 349 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: But it's such a cool scene. It's amazing, and she 350 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: knows that by doing this she is gonna allah the prisoners. 351 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: She's basically calling his bluff on politeness because she's saying, well, 352 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: you said we can leave at any time, and we're 353 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: not prisoners, so I'm gonna try and leave. And you 354 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: see that they just keep fighting and killing her, because really, 355 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: if she leaves, then everyone else can. 356 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: Leave, right the other notables, the other regions, especially who 357 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: are secretly hostages there. Though again Ishidas, pretending they're not hostages, 358 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: would they would flee, but they because of this now 359 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: kind of realize these other people, these other notable people 360 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 3: hostage at the castle, are like, wait a second, are 361 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: we prisoners? Also, Marico announces that she will kill herself 362 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, which is Shido, for 363 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: various political reasons, cannot allow. He can't let that happen, so. 364 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: So he goes and he stops her, and he says, 365 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: he's starter, you don't have to do this. She's to 366 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: kill herself because she couldn't fulfill Toro Naga's you know, 367 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: wishes to leave and as she's his vassal, that's shameful. 368 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: And then he's like, no, I don't leave. Everything's okay, 369 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: you can just leave tomorrow. 370 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: Here's a podon like, yeah, we got you apart. You 371 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: just needed the. 372 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: Papers, you just needed the leaving papers that. 373 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: We miss what I went down to the office. I 374 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: got you the exit papers. 375 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: Boom. 376 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: You can leave in the more. But of course she's 377 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: not gonna let that happen, so he sends in ninja's 378 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: to kidnap her, and in the end, Marico and Blackthorn 379 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: they fight off the ninjas. They end up pulled out 380 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: in like a storage room. 381 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: With her with her ladies in waiting and her retinue. 382 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: The ninja's blow open the door with gunpowder. Marico takes 383 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: the full blast. She stands in front of the door. 384 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: She knows, she knows it's gonna happen. She wants to 385 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: protect the other people and she does. She saves black 386 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: Thorn's life, she saves the other people, and I think 387 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: it's a very interesting moment because obviously we're all rooting 388 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: for Mariko. She becomes like she's one of the main 389 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: core cast in the show. But even in that moment, 390 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: she actually gets to die with agency, like she chooses it, 391 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: She chooses to save these people. She cares about it. 392 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I remember the end of that episode, like everyone was 393 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: hitting me up, going do you have screeners? 394 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: Is she still alive? Like did she really die? 395 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: And it was like a huge that was just such 396 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: a huge talking point. I think people were really shocked, 397 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: which is funny because the book exists and the other 398 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: TV show exists, so this has already been established. But 399 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: people were so invested in the show that they were 400 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: not getting spoiled even though it had existed for so long, 401 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: except for a certain Jason and who did guess. 402 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: So let's talk about I let's briefly talk about that. 403 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: My mom talking to about the show and texting about 404 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: the show. She was a fan. She didn't like the 405 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty mini series as much, but she likes this 406 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: one quite a bit. She texted me before I had 407 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: watched this episode. I can't believe she dies. It was 408 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: so fucking mad. 409 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: Legendary. That's like the ultimate mom interaction. I love it. 410 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, rip Marico. 411 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: A'm so sad she's free. 412 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, Blackthorn and her was never gonna 413 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: work out anyway, and they got to tell each other 414 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: they loved each other. So he must have stunk, like 415 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: he looks stinky as hell, and I I do love 416 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: I love the joke where he goes, he goes, I 417 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: had a bath this week already, and they're like, they're like, 418 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: don't you have another one? 419 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: And he's like no again. 420 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: It's like, no, you're going to have a bath based. 421 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: Last month, I based last Easter again. Okay, So with 422 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: Osaka Castle in chaos, the Council finally declares war on Tornagus. 423 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: Let's just put an And. 424 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: The reason they think they're going to be able to 425 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: do it is because Lady Achiaber is on their side, 426 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: meaning they can fly the banners of the Child Air 427 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: and that gives them a legitimacy. And Ishido's like he's 428 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: on it. He's like, I'm going to war baby. They're 429 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: playing the war drums like he's ready. Everyone's like super 430 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: hyped up, but Burro, it's not going to happen for you. 431 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: So uh, Lord of Shido basically lets Blackthorn go, puts 432 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: him in the hands of the church because this guy's 433 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: been more trouble than he's been worth it fucked up 434 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: all their plans, and the church and lets him go essentially, 435 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: so he goes back to a gyro. 436 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: And that's actually again thanks to Marico, because she was 437 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: she was very close with the one Catholic representative who 438 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: seems to be actually like interested in and not corruption. 439 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: And and and he says to Blackthorn, you know, she 440 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: asked me to let you go, so I'm gonna I'm 441 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: gonna let you go now, I will say by the 442 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: end of the episode, do I believe it was her 443 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: who asked him? No, somebody else's scheme in But in 444 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: that moment we get to see once again, like Marico's 445 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: power in this society where she is undervalued and seen 446 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: his property, she still gets to make these power plays 447 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: that change people's lives and save people's lives, which I 448 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: think is the same with Lady Atchiba. With the Sami. 449 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: There's a very interesting undercurrent hair of the ways that 450 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: women can find power in this space that doesn't give 451 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: it to them willingly. 452 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 3: Uh in it added Jiro. Blackthorn finds uh sadly, sadly 453 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: that his ship, the Erasmus, has been something. Face. 454 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: It's just my way in to get back to his 455 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: ship this time, sad face, EMERGI, you. 456 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: Piss drinking rats, you vermin. 457 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 4: I'll rip your cuts out at ile, I'll barbecue them 458 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: on a spin and I'll eat them. 459 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: Uh. 460 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 3: The engine says that he is displeased, forces his generally 461 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 3: Abashi gat to commit suicide for betraying him, and we 462 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: discover guess what The Erasmus was sunk by Toronaga because 463 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: he wants to keep you know, like Blackthorn has been 464 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: very useful to him. 465 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: One will stup him around, as he says to Abi. 466 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: Because this is a great moment, we get Tadanobu, we 467 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: get Hiroyuki, and in a change from the book where 468 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: we kind of learn all of this in a like 469 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: a voice over almost like a kind of just a 470 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: first person like, WHOA, I was doing this all along? Instead, 471 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: they have Toronaga confess to Yabashiga, and it's so great 472 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: to see Yabashige finally get let in on what's going on, and. 473 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: He's so happy. He's happy, but he's also like horrified. 474 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, this is terrible. He's like what I 475 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: actually interviewed Tadanobu for IGN and he said he feels 476 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: like in that moment, like he's less interested, and I 477 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: think this is kind of what you touched on. He's 478 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: less interested in like the greater plans for Japan or 479 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: the world, or this change is of society. He just 480 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: wants to understand the man in front of him, and 481 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: and in that moment he's kind of disappointed because he 482 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: feels like this was a man who, well, Yabashige is 483 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: like the self serving, like foolish, like kind of rogue. 484 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: He put Toronaga on like a pedestal, as like this 485 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: great man. But as we find out as he does 486 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: this confession, Toronaga has been playing all of them all along, and. 487 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: The final chess move of Lord Tornaga's occurs. In a 488 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: kind of flash forward, we go to the big battle 489 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: where all the regency armies have gathered to crush Toronaga 490 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: and his armies, and on the battlefield, Lady Uchiba's forces 491 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: change sides. They turn on Lord Ashido, who is cast 492 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: down and we should assume is killed and his forces 493 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: put out of power. An amazing an amazing run, A 494 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: very complicated show, just with so much drama and emotion. 495 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think like that final reveal that it 496 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: was Tornaga that really took a lot of people by surprise, 497 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: because it's even implied like did he send the ninjas? 498 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Was he part of that plan? Did he need because 499 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: he needed Riko to die for a Cheeba to turn 500 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: on Ishido because she blamed a Shido from Rico's death 501 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: and they were friends. And I just the whole thing 502 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: is so complex, and I'd seen a lot of kind 503 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: of people being like how cool that Hiroki Hirouki Sinada had. 504 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: You know, this has been a passion project for him 505 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: for twelve years and he cast himself in this role 506 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: where you think he's the main character but then actually 507 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: he's a side character. But really the funny thing to 508 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: see people talk about that and then you get to 509 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: the final episode and you're like, oh no, this he 510 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: is going to be the shogun. There's this great line 511 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: where he says to he says to Yabashiga, he says, 512 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: remember what the anjin said when we first met, and 513 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: he said, you know, it's impossible, and then he says, 514 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: unless I win, and then anything is possible. And Yabashiga 515 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: looks up at him and he says, even shogun, And 516 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: he has that realization that Toronaga has always wanted to 517 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: be shogun, and in fact, all his humility, all his 518 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: plans were leading to this moment where he could become 519 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: the true leader of of Japan. And you mentioned something 520 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: really interesting here about the flash forward. I think I 521 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: read some I didn't agree with them, but I read 522 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: some really interesting, well written thoughts about how a lot 523 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: of people were kind of shocked by the finale because 524 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: it promised this great battle, but it doesn't have one. 525 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: It proms two huge battles that happened off screen. 526 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: And I love that because I think that's like very 527 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: much in line with the intellectual wars that kind of 528 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: fuel the show. But I understand how if we're used 529 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: to like a Battle of the Bastards esque episode to 530 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people that were expecting that final violent moment. 531 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: But I mean, what a show, and it's so fantastic, 532 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: and the thing that blows my mind that's so great 533 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: about it is like this book is like a eleven 534 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: hundred and five pages long or something. Yeah, and that 535 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: it's huge and in the world of the MCU and 536 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: the kind of shared universes and all that kind of storytelling. 537 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: There is a version of this where they just adapt 538 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: it for like five seasons. But I love that they 539 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: streamlined it and they changed the perspective. They were like, 540 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 1: what is this like if you actually live in Japan 541 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: and it's focused on the Japanese cast and Black THRM 542 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: is essentially a distraction, which they have a lot of 543 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: fun at the end with Toronaga basically saying that he's like, 544 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: he distracts the Portuguese and he makes me laugh, So 545 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: that's why he's here, you know. And I think that 546 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: it's incredibly brave in a way and savvy to just 547 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: adapt it in ten episodes when you could have longed 548 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: it out and tried to do multiple seasons. But now 549 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: we have a fully complete season of television that I 550 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: think it probably stands up there with the best one 551 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: season series. 552 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: For sure, for sure. Next up, we go to the 553 00:32:49,160 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: end of US. Yeah, welcome to another continuing chapter in 554 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: the Omnibus, where law, analysis and understanding come together. This week, 555 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: talking about the life of the author of Shogun, James Clavel. 556 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: James Colvell, born in nineteen twenty four and Ciney, Australia, 557 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: lived a incredibly fascinating and interesting life. Clavel's father and 558 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: grandfather were both in the Royal Navy, but like Blackthorn, 559 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: Clovel's fate would largely be decided on land. He joined 560 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: Her Majesty's Royal Artillery in nineteen forty was sent to 561 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: Malaysia the Second World War broke out. He was shot 562 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: in the face, eventually taken prisoner by the Japanese and 563 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: he spent three and a half years in two prison camps, 564 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: the second of which Changi in Singapore, was noted for 565 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: its brutality and starvation conditions. You see a lot of 566 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: competing numbers for the amount of people died in this 567 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: prison camp. But whatever the case may be, it's clear 568 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: that Clavell needed some luck to survive that. He did 569 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: not talk about those experiences, and by nineteen fifty three 570 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: he was in la trying to make a go as 571 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 3: a screenwriter. His first paid screenwriting gig was adapting a 572 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: short story which appeared in the pages of Playboy magazine, 573 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 3: which also started in nineteen fifty three, by the way, 574 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: written by George Langlan, the story was called The Fly, 575 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: about a scientist who accidentally merges his DNA with that 576 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: of a fly. And guess what. The movie The Fly 577 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: would go on to become an absolute bonafide horror classic. 578 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: That even the type of movie where, even if you 579 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: haven't seen the original, you've seen references to it. 580 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and you've seen the remake. 581 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: Yes, Clavel that went maiden stream. You know, The Fly 582 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 3: was kind of a B movie, despite its current modern 583 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: status as a landmark horror film. He then went mainstream 584 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: with nineteen sixty threes Air Force action film six point 585 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: thirty three Squadron, and then nineteen sixty six epic Second 586 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: World War drama The Great Escape, which he co wrote, 587 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: starred Steve McQueen and a bunch of other notable legendary 588 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: film Clavel then transitioned to directing, both on screen and 589 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: for television. His most notable film is an adaptation of 590 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: To Stir with Love, the biography autobiography of the Guyanese 591 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 3: author Er Braithwait, starring Sidney Poitier. Braithwait was not really 592 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 3: that much of a fan of the adaptation, but it 593 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: was a landmark film and a big cultural hit. Clavel 594 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 3: also wrote the script, and then Hollywood screenwriters and actors 595 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: went on strike together at the same time for the 596 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: first time. The issues at that time were residuals coming 597 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: from reruns and also with the studio's fund healthcare and 598 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 3: pensions for actors and writers. So no work right, Clovell 599 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 3: pivots to novels. He expungent your minds all this trauma 600 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: that he had from his experiences at Chaney to write 601 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 3: King Rat, which was published in nineteen sixty two, and 602 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: the book immediately established Clavel as a brand unto himself, 603 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: and the covel brand was as follows. He would write 604 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: long books featuring numerous characters, usually set in the East 605 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: and richly researched, and the book was a best selling smash, 606 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: and then he would continue writing novels, eventually pivoting away 607 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: from directing, which all his kind of like Hollywood friends 608 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 3: would be like, why do you you've got a good 609 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: thing going here. You're a writer director, multi hyphen it 610 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 3: when that doesn't mean we don't even have that phrase yet. 611 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: For fifty sixteen years, keep doing that, He's like, no, 612 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna keep writing books. I think 613 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 3: I like this better because I have full control. His 614 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: next book, Taipan in nineteen sixty six, tells the story 615 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: of Western traders working out of nineteenth century Hong Kong. 616 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 3: And then in nineteen seventy five, now a full fledged 617 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 3: just an author, came Shogun. The novel, as Rosie said, 618 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 3: ran over eleven hundred pages, sold six million copies worldwide, 619 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: and established Cavell as a major, major literary star. It 620 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: made me, Clavell once said, I became a brand name 621 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: like Heinz Baked Beans. In nineteen eighty, NBC aired its 622 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 3: adaptation of Shogun on five consecutive nights in September. This 623 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 3: was part of a of a trend towards mini series 624 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 3: which began in the seventies and we continue through the 625 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: mid eighties, starring Richard Chamberlin as Blackthorn, the legendary Tishira 626 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: Mufuni as Tornaga, and Yoka shimades Marico. Shogun was a 627 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: gigantic hit, huge television hit had a Nielsen rating of 628 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: twenty six point three, which means twenty six point three 629 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: million viewers per episode. That was the largest in NBC's history, 630 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 3: and honestly, it's like up there with like stuff like 631 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: super Bowls. Like it's basically like super Bowls happening every 632 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 3: single night of the week. The show is credited with 633 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: kicking off a general interest in Japanese culture that continued 634 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: through the throughout the nineteen eighties, and you see it 635 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 3: a lot in pop culture, although the context was usually 636 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: pretty negative. Some interesting notes about the nineteen eighty Showgun 637 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: and Well, in particular, like the FX adaptation, most of 638 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 3: the dialogue of the nineteen eighty Showgun was in Japanese. However, 639 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: Blackthorne was most decidedly the protagonist. It was all through 640 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 3: his eyes and there was a lot more sex and 641 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: romance with Marico and NBC therefore, since Richard Chamberlain as Blackthorn, 642 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 3: is gonna be the star, they made the decision, a 643 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: baffling decision in retrospect, to just not have any subtitles. 644 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: You just know what seventy five percent of the actors 645 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: you're saying at any given time. The thinking was since 646 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 3: Blackthorne was confused about what was being said around him, 647 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 3: and he is the avatar for the audience, Therefore their 648 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: confusion would help the story, okay whatever. Showgun, the nineteen 649 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: eighty Showgun was the first show to have a character 650 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 3: say the word piss and to show a character pissing, 651 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: you know, when Blackthorn is pissed on after his capture 652 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 3: by the Japanese. The mini series, as I mentioned, was 653 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: part of a wave of successful television events that began 654 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 3: with ABC's adaptation of Alex Haley's Roots, which was the 655 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 3: biggest television event to that time, and the European Smashed 656 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 3: Jesus of Nazareth. Clavel himself was an ardent right wing psychopath. 657 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 3: His nineteen eighty one book eight nineteen eighty one book, 658 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 3: The Children's Story, a novella, is eighty five pages of 659 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 3: hysterical dystopian paranoia, set in a future where kids have 660 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: lost their connection to the meaning of the Pledge of Allegiance. 661 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 3: That's literally what the story is about. And therefore he 662 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: was like very close with the Reagan administry. Loved Reagan, 663 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 3: He's very close with him. Was invited to a White 664 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: House event honoring Japan. He was, he said of The 665 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 3: Children's Story Clevell in a nineteen eighty one New York 666 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 3: Times magazine story quote the Wonderful thing about the book 667 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 3: is that it's just a It's just at the right 668 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 3: time with Reagan, the right wing approach America first, the 669 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 3: awareness of an enemy called communism. We are in a 670 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 3: sweep away from the left wing attitudes that have been 671 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 3: creeping in against our constitution. He's Australian. 672 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: This is democracy, isn't it. 673 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 3: It's not a socialist state end quote. James Killel. Javits. 674 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: Critics reacted to the nineteen eighty eighty Minui series with 675 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 3: kind of like bemusement. They they it would be too 676 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 3: strong to say they were disappointed. They have, of course 677 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 3: their own historical dramas, so what do they need this one? 678 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 3: For The New York Time. That same nineteen eighty one 679 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 3: New York Times story quotes Asahi Television's New York bureau 680 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 3: chief Yasushi Miyakawa as saying, quote, it had some funny points, 681 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: some curious points, some inadequate points. Showgun was of course 682 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 3: a huge hit, both in novel and television forms. So 683 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 3: there's like a lot of wild, possibly apocryphal like propaganda 684 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: about like what a big hit it was. Like one 685 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 3: of the stories you will read that's impossible to verify 686 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 3: is that like restaurants noticed a dip in people going 687 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: out to eat because they couldn't miss Showgun, of course, 688 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 3: this being the era before VCRs were really popular. Another 689 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: one that is really fun and jibs with Clovell's right 690 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 3: wing tendencies that I can't find proof for is a 691 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: story reported in The New York Times that was supposedly 692 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: relayed by Shogun's publisher that said that Henry Kissinger, Nixon's 693 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: former Secretary of State, was such a Showgun fan that 694 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: he referred to his wife as woman like various characters 695 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: and Showgun do anyway, did Shogun spark a general interest 696 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 3: in amri in Japanese cuisine, most notably sushi. This another 697 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 3: possibly apocryphal story about the popularity of Shogun we don't know, 698 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 3: but clearly an incredibly influential work. James Clovell would pass 699 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: away in nineteen ninety four, was working up until his death, 700 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 3: only a year after the sixth and final book in 701 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: his Asian saga Guy Jin was published. James Clavell super weirdo. 702 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: Every episode we like to end the show with a 703 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: fast moving segment. This time we're doing like that. Watch 704 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: this with our favorite samurai movies inspired by Shogun. I 705 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: love samurai movies. I'm a Shakira kurrasur fat and I 706 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: think like one of the coolest things about Shogun and 707 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: this version of Shogun kind of that you touch on 708 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: this in the omnibus about Clavel's right wing leanings and 709 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: the way that he positioned himself in the world. So 710 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: as you can imagine, the book is very much of that, 711 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,479 Speaker 1: like a white savior who goes there, who understands things better, 712 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: who can do things better, who kind of has to 713 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: navigate this landscape. Obviously, the FX version of Shogun, the 714 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: creative team crafted something entirely different that totally repositions the 715 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: story and the importance of Blackthorn, and I think like 716 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: going back to classic Japanese samurai movies, you get to 717 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: be in a situation cuation where you get to see 718 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: the films that inspired this stuff. I would say if 719 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: you loved this my basically, any Currosaur movie is like 720 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: a dream place to begin your exploration. Curricur is like 721 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: a legend. My favorite Curaca movie is The Hidden Fortress, 722 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: but that is that's if you watch Star Wars, so 723 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: that's more of a comedic twist I'm going to say 724 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: for this one because of how much I loved the 725 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: women in this film, I'm gonna I'm actually gonna go 726 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 1: away from Kurosawa and I'm gonna say Lady Snowblood. Yeah. 727 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: T Shoya Fujita directed it, and it is if you 728 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: are so good, Yeah, because it was recently they did 729 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: a Lady Snowbug collection for Criterion. A lot of the 730 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: Criterion stuff is on Max and it stars Mako Kaje 731 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: as like a woman seeking revenge on the people who 732 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: murdered her family. Huge influence of on Kill Bill. It's 733 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: this totally nonlinear narrative that makes it feel super modern 734 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: and contemporary. It's just such a joyous film. It's so beautiful, 735 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: like joyous if you love bloody Revenge, but like it 736 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: makes me feel so happy every time I see it 737 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: because it's so beautiful. There's so many fantastic shots and spaces, 738 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: and I think it very much is in that space 739 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: of Shogun. So yeah, that's that's that's my pick. If 740 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 1: you loved Shogun. 741 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 3: My pick is Akua Kosauer's nineteen five classic Throne of Bloody, 742 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 3: his take on Macbeth starting to Shiro Mufude it's awesome betrayal, madness, 743 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 3: the hunger for power, and how it's corrosive and of 744 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 3: course just like beautiful, unbelievably beautiful in camera effects and visuals, 745 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 3: ending with an iconic action scene involving so many arrows 746 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 3: that even to this I mean, to this day, it 747 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 3: holds up incredible throne of blood. 748 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: So good. And that's it for the episode. So I'll 749 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: see you next time. 750 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 3: Jason, see you, next time, I see you next time. 751 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: Check x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kisepsion and 752 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 3: Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our 753 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 3: executive producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising 754 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 3: producer is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent 755 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 3: and Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 756 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman 757 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: and Heidi our discoord moderator.